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Friday Talking Points -- GOP Puts The Dog Whistles Away

[ Posted Friday, July 19th, 2019 – 17:24 UTC ]

Obviously, Donald Trump dominated the news this week, by going full-on racist. The Republican Party's reliance on "dog whistles" on racial issues is now no longer necessary, since the leader of the party has given everyone a green light to just go right ahead and publicly scream racist invective as loudly as possible. That was such a big story that it swamped all the other political news.

We're going to address the new love both Trump and the Republican Party have for blatant racism in the talking points this week, in an extended screed on exactly where Trump is leading his party and the country. We felt such a disgusting turn of events deserved being addressed in longer fashion than just a few paragraphs. But before we get to that, though, we've got the other news of the week to cover and some awards to hand out.

It's actually been two weeks since we last wrote one of these columns, as we were away at Netroots Nation last week. While there, we were amused to see Donald Trump being forced to give up his plans for adding a citizenship question to the Census, while ranting and raving about Democrats and trying to spin his backing down as some sort of political victory. Good times!

Also last week, Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta was forced to resign, and Trump humiliated him by forcing him to sheepishly stand there during Trump's announcement of his resignation. Acosta, of course, was instrumental in letting Jeffery Epstein off the hook for child molestation and human trafficking, so he had to go. One wonders why this didn't happen a long time ago, in fact, but that's par for the Trump administration's course. Today it was announced one of the witnesses in the Bob Mueller probe was also arrested for child pornography -- and not for the first time. Because as Trump told us, he'd surround himself with "nothing but the best people."

Trump's idiocy was on full display today as well, when he attempted to hold a ceremony with a Nobel Peace Prize winner without putting his foot in his mouth (spoiler alert: he failed). Nadia Murad, an Iraqi Yazidi woman who was raped and tortured by the Islamic State, tried to talk to Trump as if he was an intelligent human being, but Trump showed her the futility of such an approach. Trump was unclear on why she had won her Nobel, since he obviously slept through that briefing. Murad tried to get Trump interested in the plight of her people, telling him: "If I cannot go to my home and live in a safe place and get my dignity back, this is not about ISIS. It's about I'm in danger. My people cannot go back." After informing Trump that she never wanted to be a refugee, but that the Islamic State had murdered her mother and six brothers, Trump -- incredibly -- asked her: "Where are they now?"

Got that? This Nobel Peace Prize winner just told Trump her entire family had been slaughtered, and Trump wasn't even paying attention. She responded incredulously: "They killed them. They are in the mass grave in Sinjar, and I'm still fighting just to live in safety."

Vice President Mike Pence also showed an astounding lack of empathy recently, as he travelled down to one of the border stations where people are being caged like animals. Afterwards, he praised the great job the Border Patrol was doing and refused to admit that he had just witnessed his own administration's inhumanity. This sparked a Twitter hashtag that was entirely appropriate: #FakeChristian.

House Democrats passed a historic piece of legislation this week, which would not only raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour -- something activists have been fighting for over the past decade or so -- but would also build in an automatic cost-of-living adjustment so that the entire political headache of raising the minimum wage would never again be held up by congressional inaction. Look for this to be a big campaign issue for all Democrats heading into 2020.

CNN held a draw (three draws, actually) last night to determine the next debate lineup, in case you missed their breathless live coverage of the event. They divided the field up into: four frontrunners, six second-tier candidates, and then the ten others. Each division got its own random draw, which produced a much more balanced arrangement than the first debates. Here are the lineups for both nights:

July 30
Steve Bullock, Pete Buttigieg, John Delaney, John Hickenlooper, Amy Klobuchar, Beto O'Rourke, Tim Ryan, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Marianne Williamson.

July 31
Michael Bennet, Joe Biden, Cory Booker, Julián Castro, Bill de Blasio, Tulsi Gabbard, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Jay Inslee, and Andrew Yang.

This sets up two very interesting dynamics, as on the first night Bernie Sanders will take on Elizabeth Warren, which is a matchup we had hoped to see in the first round of debates. Sanders and Warren are essentially competing for the same slice of voters, as each would dearly like to be the one progressive candidate left standing who takes on Joe Biden directly. Their agendas are similar and their policy prescriptions almost identical in many respects. So it will be interesting to see each make their case, and be able to compare their debate styles next to one another.

The second interesting head-to-head matchup will be a repeat of Kamala Harris versus Joe Biden. Biden is spoiling for a rematch here, as Harris obviously got the better of him last time around. So both nights should be fascinating to watch. CNN has said it is going to be a lot stricter on who is allowed to speak, after NBC just let anyone jump in at any time, so that should also be interesting to watch. Which candidates will keep to the rules, and which will attempt to ignore them?

These may also be the last debates for roughly half of the Democratic field, since the bar for entry into the third debate is set a lot higher. In fact, this may be the last time we'll see many of these candidates altogether, as many of the low-polling candidates may have to exit the race before the third debate even happens.

OK, before we move along to the awards, we have one story that we never thought we'd hear to share with everyone. Rush Limbaugh just committed the granddaddy of all Washington gaffes (where someone accidentally admits the truth).

Remember when Republicans couldn't shut up about the deficit? It happens like clockwork, every single time a Democrat is in the White House. Garments are rent, tears are spilled, as fiscal conservatives warn us all of impending doom. But Rush just proved what a gigantic con-job this has always been. Answering a caller who suggested that it'd be better for Republicans to dump Trump and get a young fiscal conservative in the White House in 2020 in order to tame the deficit and shrink the national debt, Limbaugh just flat-out gave the game away:

Nobody is a fiscal conservative anymore. All this talk about concern for the deficit and the budget has been bogus for as long as it's been around.... How many years have people tried to scare everybody about the deficit? The years, how many decades of politicians tried to scare us about deficit the national debt, the deficit, any number of things. And yet, here we're still here and the great jaws of the deficit have not bitten off our heads and chewed them up and spit them out.

Democrats everywhere should really save this clip to play to all the doomsayers when the next Democratic president takes the helm, because just like the sun rising in the east, that will be the precise moment when all the Republican sound and fury over the deficit begins anew.

 

Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week

Donald Trump certainly has one skill that aids Democrats, and that is to absolutely unify the Democratic Party in opposition to all things Trump. What had been a growing intraparty rift between "the Squad" of four freshmen congresswomen and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was instantly healed, once Trump personally attacked them in such a public and racist fashion. The Democratic ranks immediately closed after this attack from outside the gates. Trump failed to drive a wedge between them, instead he spurred them to stand shoulder to shoulder against him -- which Democrats should be thankful for.

Pelosi moved quickly to pass a House resolution condemning the president's racism, which passed largely on party lines (a scant few Republicans -- those who still have a shred of self-respect -- voted with the Democrats to condemn Trump). For acting so swiftly, Pelosi deserves at least an Honorable Mention.

But our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week this week goes to Representative Elijah Cummings, for his visible outrage when questioning the acting head of the Department of Homeland Security.

Cummings chairs the House Oversight Committee, who had called Kevin McAleenan to testify about the horrific situation at the border. Cummings was not in the mood to hear how wonderful a job the Trump administration had been doing, to put it mildly:

The Maryland Democrat got emotional while discussing the crowded centers migrants are being held in. Reading from a court document in which a federal judge found that Homeland Security "did a better job of tracking immigrants' personal property than their children," Cummings repeatedly shut down McAleenan's attempts to speak.

"I'm talking about human beings," Cummings said. "I'm not talking about people that come from, as the president said, shitholes. These are human beings. Human beings. Just trying to live a better life."

. . .

"And therefore, I guess -- you feel like you're doing a great job right?" Cummings asked.

McAleenan responded his department was "doing our level best," before being cut off again.

"What does that mean? What does that mean? When a child is sitting in their own feces, can't take a shower?" Cummings said, his voice shaking. "Come on man. What's that about? None of us would have our children in that position."

"They are human beings," he said, beginning to raise his voice. He added that he didn't think Democrats' complaints were being taken seriously. "I get tired of folks saying, 'Oh they're just beating up on the Border Patrol.' 'Oh, they're just beating up on Homeland Security.' All I'm saying is, I want to concentrate on these children, and I want to make sure that they're OK. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It's not the deed you do to a child. It's the memory. It's the memory.

"We are the United States of America! We are the greatest country in the world," he said. "Come on. We're better than that. And I don't want us to lose sight of that. How do you say to a 2-year-old... 'We can't find your mother, but we can find her keys?'"

Cummings did a stellar job of voicing the outrage and frustration millions of Americans have been feeling after seeing photos and videos of human beings caged up in conditions that (as one other Democrat on the committee put it) "would be illegal to keep dogs in."

For his righteous questioning and his heartfelt disgust, Elijah Cummings more than qualified for this week's Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award. Bravo, Congressman, and thank you for saying what needed to be said.

[Congratulate Representative Elijah Cummings on his House contact page, to let him know you appreciate his efforts.]

 

Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week

Before we get to the main award, we have (Dis-)Honorable Mentions to hand out to six Democratic House members: Anthony Brindisi of New York, Joe Cunningham of South Carolina, Kendra Horn of Oklahoma, Ben McAdams of Utah, Kurt Schrader of Oregon, and Xochitl Torres Small of New Mexico. All six voted against the $15 minimum wage bill passed by the House this week, and they should all be ashamed of themselves for doing so.

But our Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week this week is none other than Joe Biden. Biden rolled out his own plan to improve Obamacare this week, which was far more modest than the Medicare For All plan that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren support. That in and of itself isn't all that disappointing, since Biden certainly isn't alone in his position that we should just add a public option to Obamacare rather than going whole-hog single-payer.

But what earns him this week's MDDOTW is how he's selling his idea. Or, more to the point, how he's badmouthing Medicare For All. There's no other way to put it -- Biden is resorting to the same fearmongering tactics that Republicans used against Obamacare in the first place. He's trying to scare seniors into believing something that just is not true, which is exactly what Sarah Palin and all the rest of the GOP detractors did with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Biden is insinuating that Bernie's Medicare For All plan would first completely do away with Obamacare in its entirety, and then years down the road would create a new health insurance system. In the meantime, Biden warns, everyone would be thrown off Medicare and lose their insurance and probably die in the streets.

This is not an exaggeration. This is exactly what Biden said, in the event where he unveiled his plan:

Then Biden began to make the case against Medicare for All. It rested largely on trying to scare old people, a tactic Republicans frequently use to whip up anxiety about any Democratic plan to reform the health care system.

"Medicare goes away as you know it. All the Medicare you have is gone," Biden said as he leaned down toward moderator Kathie Obradovich from the Des Moines Register for effect. "The transition of dropping 300 million people on a new plan -- totally new -- is, I think, kind of a little risky at this point."

. . .

Perhaps worse still was Biden's suggestion that sick people could be hurt during the four-year transition from the current health coverage system to a new Medicare for All program.

Biden asked members of the audience to raise their hands if they'd ever lost a loved one to a terminal illness. "Every second counts. It's not about a year, it's about the day, the week, the month, the next six months," he said. "The truth of the matter is, it's likely to be a bumpy ride getting to where we're going."

This is unconscionable. Joe Biden knows full well exactly how the Republicans demonized Obamacare before (and long after) it was passed into law. And now he is using their playbook to falsely attack fellow Democrats.

There's a case to be made against Medicare For All, and for merely adding a public option to Obamacare. But Biden didn't make that case, he just flat-out lied. Bernie's Medicare For All plan would actually improve Medicare coverage, making it cheaper and better (such as adding dental and vision coverage). It would not just take everyone's Medicare away in the interim. To suggest it would is nothing short of fearmongering. During the transition period, nobody would suddenly find themselves uninsured and in danger of dying from not getting treatment. That is just false, and it is a scurrilous thing to say.

Joe Biden may not get called on the carpet for these statements in the next debate, as both Warren and Sanders will be debating on a different night than Biden and Kamala Harris. But he deserves to be called out, so perhaps one of the other candidates will do so. For now, we're calling him out with this week's Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award.

We can all have a rational debate about whether the public option or Medicare For All is the best way forward, and we can respectfully disagree with each other. But it's got to be an honest debate. Let's leave the scaremongering to the Republicans, Joe, whaddya say?

[Joe Biden is a private citizen, and it is our standing policy not to link to candidates' web pages, so you'll have to search for his contact information yourself if you'd like to let him know what you think of his actions.]

 

Friday Talking Points

Volume 534 (7/19/19)

As promised, we have a special version of the talking points this week. Donald Trump has now led the Republican Party into a dismal and disgusting swamp of racial hatred. Or, perhaps more accurately, he revealed that they've actually been living there for a while, now.

This was the week when the dog whistles were put away because they were no longer needed, to put it another way. This was the week when even the mainstream media stopped mincing words and started calling the president a racist. For good reason. So we're going to address this development in full, rather than attempting to break it up into soundbites. Next week we'll (hopefully) be able to return to talking-points-as-usual, but for now we've got a few things to get off our chest.

 

The Week The GOP Dog Whistles Were Put Away

This week, the Republican Party put away their "dog whistles" and officially became the party of full-on racism. There's just no other way to put it, at this point. Donald Trump, never one for subtlety, has forced the so-called "party of Lincoln" to admit in public that there simply is no red line on racism that they will now balk at crossing. Instead, they are reduced to complaining that "racism" is such an ugly word that it should never, ever be used about them -- no matter how strong the evidence is that they are truly racist.

Donald Trump, of course, is an idiot. That pretty much goes without saying. The tirade that began the week was merely the most recent evidence of his idiocy. In case anyone's forgotten, Trump rose to political prominence by publicly questioning the first black president's birth certificate and complaining about every single thing Barack Obama did or stood for. His complaints were unending, in fact. Trump badmouthed America and the president every chance he could. And now, in a moment of supreme cluelessness, he has decided to berate some Democratic politicians for doing exactly the same thing he spent eight years doing. Irony is dead, in other words.

Trump's idiocy didn't end there, though. He told four congresswomen to "go back" to where they came from, resurrecting a racist golden oldie. This made little sense, since three out of four of the congresswomen were actually born in the United States. But they aren't white, so of course (to Trump) they must have come from one of those "shithole" countries Trump loves to complain about.

Here is Trump, attempting to defend his remarks:

That's what I say all the time. That's what I said in a tweet which I guess some people think is controversial. A lot of people love it, by the way, a lot of people love it. But if you're not happy in the U.S., if you're complaining all the time, very simply, you can leave. You can leave right now. Come back if you want, don't come back, that's OK, too. But if you're not happy, you can leave.

It's a shame he didn't take his own advice, back when Barack Obama was president. But of course "love it or leave it" doesn't apply to people like Trump, just those with brown skin.

At the heart of Trump's idiocy is his steadfast belief that hating Donald Trump equates to hating America. This is far from the truth, but Trump sincerely believes that any American who doesn't wholeheartedly support him in everything that he does is simply not worthy of being an American. Especially those with dark skin, naturally.

This is evident in how he speaks of any criticism of himself. It was lost in all the racist frenzy, but here's what Trump had to say about the freedom of speech this week:

See, I don't think that the mainstream media is free speech either because it's so crooked. It's so dishonest. So to me, free speech is not when you see something good and then you purposely write bad. To me, that's very dangerous speech, and you become angry at it. But that's not free speech.

Freedom of speech is to be reserved only for those who write glowingly about Dear Leader Trump, in other words. Just as, to Trump, "loving America" means fully supporting Donald Trump at all times. Anyone who disagrees with him must not love America, obviously. This completely ignores the eight years Trump disagreed with President Barack Obama, of course, as well as Trump's entire presidential campaign, which he spent taking potshots at America every time he opened his mouth. So free speech is OK when he badmouths the president or the country, but when someone else does it to him, then they should "go back" to where they came from (even if they were actually born here). But of course, it couldn't be true that they were born here, since they have brown skin.

No matter how you slice it, Trump comes up racist. This isn't the first time his racism has been on display, of course. He began his presidential campaign by calling Mexicans "rapists." He said racist things about a judge that didn't rule for him (calling him Mexican even though he was born in Indiana). He praised ("very fine people") a racist white nationalist rally. He called countries with dark-skinned people "shithole countries." He made racist comments about a Gold Star father and mother who dared to speak out against him at the Democratic National Convention. He wanted to ban all Muslims from entering the United States. His racism even goes back decades further. He and his father (who Trump idiotically once said was born in Germany, which is not true) were successfully sued for being racist landlords in the 1970s. Trump has been a racist for a long time -- it's not (as Anthony Scaramucci just laughingly tried to claim) something that just happened out of the blue this particular week.

What has changed is the Republican Party's tolerance level for such blatant racism. Republicans used to hide behind dog whistles -- coded phrases that could be explained away as somehow being "not racist" while expressing racist ideas to those in the know. Ronald Reagan's "welfare queens" is a good example, but there are plenty of others to choose from (the Willie Horton ad also springs immediately to mind).

But Republicans now feel no reason to hide behind a veneer of plausible deniability. They're now just out there being openly racist. Few Republicans publicly denounced Trump's "go back" comments this week, and it wasn't until a crowd at a Trump rally began chanting "Send her back!" that they began to get worried about how it was all playing in Peoria.

It's not just Trump, either. Duncan Hunter, a GOP representative currently under indictment for corruption, recently sent out a mailer to his constituents that was so Islamophobic that the U.S. Marine Corps sent him a cease-and-desist letter demanding that he stop using the Marine Corps logo in his election materials. Hunter's mailer also misspelled "Israel" (as "Isreal"), proving that Trump isn't the only Republican who hasn't yet figured out how to use a spell-checker.

Mitch McConnell also joined in the fun, approving of Trump's racism with the statement: "I think the president is on to something," as if it were some kind of brilliant political tactic. Lindsey Graham also chimed in, with some advice for Trump: "Don't get personal. Don't take the bait." In the same interview Graham called the four congresswomen "a bunch of communists" and echoed Trump's "they hate America" line. Irony is not just dead, it is a rotting corpse.

Mike Kelly, a House member from Pennsylvania, really took the cluelessness prize though, responding to the outcry over Trump's racism with the jaw-dropping response: "They talk about people of color. I'm a person of color. I'm white. I'm an Anglo-Saxon. People say things all the time, but I don't get offended."

Nancy Pelosi summed up the week by tweeting that what Trump really wants to do is "make America white again." Trump, not even knowing what the word irony means, tried to claim that Pelosi was the one making racist statements (when in fact she was accurately describing his own racist political philosophy).

Donald Trump will forever be known for lowering the bar for what is acceptable behavior not just from a United States president, but from anyone in the public eye. There is no standard of decency that he will not destroy by lowering himself further into the gutter, and dragging his fellow Republicans along for the ride. Republicans are so terrified of Trump's supporters that they refuse to call him out no matter how deserving he is of condemnation. Trump is not the first president we've had who was a stone-cold racist (Andrew Johnson and Woodrow Wilson certainly both qualify), but he's the first to openly embrace racism in such breathtaking fashion since the Civil Rights era. At least Wilson and Johnson could argue that "times were different" back then, but Trump has no such built-in excuse.

Trump's supporters are no better. Chanting "Send her back" is nothing short of white supremacy being mainstreamed in American politics, plain and simple. Things that used to not be acceptable in polite conversation are now being screamed out as loudly as possible. Trump laughably tried to claim that he "wasn't happy" with this chant, but the video plainly showed he did absolutely nothing to try and stop it.

One can only hope that this represents nothing short of the last gasp of racism in America, and that once Trump and his ilk exit the national stage we'll all return to politeness and sanity once again. But this may be wishful thinking. Trump has ripped this scab off, and the festering wound beneath may not heal quite so fast. It will take another Republican in the future to disavow what the party has now become before any return to normalcy even begins to take place. How long that takes is anyone's guess, at this point -- it could be a generation or more before it happens.

For the time being, the Republican Party has doubled down on racism, embracing it fully, right out in the open for everyone to see. There's no need for dog whistles anymore, as Donald Trump gives all the racists a big fat green light to just scream out what they used to be condemned for saying. Trump supporters now consider racism to be OK, since the president himself is quite obviously proud to be a racist. And with over a year to go before the 2020 election, we should all sadly expect this to get a lot worse and a lot more blatant in the meantime. Because there are no GOP dog whistles anymore, just naked racism.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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239 Comments on “Friday Talking Points -- GOP Puts The Dog Whistles Away”

  1. [1] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Why not apply the same attitude of we can all have a rational debate aboot a public option vs. medicare for all and respectfully disagree to small donor campaigns vs. small contribution campaigns?

    We may not agree aboot whether the time is right or will ever be right, but it should be part of the conversation so all citizens get to consider this question just as they are considering all the other positions of the candidates.

    Just in case you missed it in the previous comment thread, here again is the link to an article aboot Bernie and his watered down version of One Demand.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/07/17/cant-change-corrupt-system-taking-its-money-sanders-urges-all-2020-democrats-reject

  2. [2] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    How a bout pie for all!

  3. [3] 
    Michale wrote:

    Obviously, Donald Trump dominated the news this week, by going full-on racist.

    Please explain exactly how AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT is racist??

    While there, we were amused to see Donald Trump being forced to give up his plans for adding a citizenship question to the Census, while ranting and raving about Democrats and trying to spin his backing down as some sort of political victory. Good times!

    Funny thing about that...

    If Democrats have left well enough alone, the Trump Administration would have citizenship information from one source..

    But, once again, President Trump has maneuvered Democrats into losing again..

    NOW President Trump is going to be able to cull citizenship data from EVERY FEDERAL DEPARTMENT that has such data... PLUS be able to create agencies whose sole purpose is to determine how many illegal immigrant criminals are actually in this country.. :D

    So, while Democrats may have won the census battle, the LOST the citizenship war!

    hehehehehehehehehehe

    Once again, President Trump rules and Democrats drool.. :D

    Acosta, of course, was instrumental in letting Jeffery Epstein off the hook for child molestation and human trafficking, so he had to go.

    Epstein?? Oh yea.. That was the child porn scumbag who had Bill Clinton on speed dial and made dozens of trips with Clinton on the Lolita Express...

    Funny how Dumbocrats don't want to talk about that, eh??

    As an aside to Russ.. Hay Russ... You mentioned some lowly staffer of Trump's was busted for child porn..

    Funny how you don't condemn Bill Clinton for child rape and patronizing Epstein's child hookers??

    Apparently, you don't have a problem with child porn and child rape.. You only have any issue with it when you can VERY TANGENTIALLY tie it to President Trump..

    How do you look in a mirror?? :eyeroll:

    Vice President Mike Pence also showed an astounding lack of empathy recently, as he travelled down to one of the border stations where people are being caged like animals.

    JUST as they were under Obama..

    Funny how no one here complained then..

    Why is that??

    Ahhhh Because it's not really a big thing if a DEMOCRAT does it...

    Funny how that is, eh? :^/

    Remember when Republicans couldn't shut up about the deficit? It happens like clockwork, every single time a Democrat is in the White House. Garments are rent, tears are spilled, as fiscal conservatives warn us all of impending doom. But Rush just proved what a gigantic con-job this has always been. Answering a caller who suggested that it'd be better for Republicans to dump Trump and get a young fiscal conservative in the White House in 2020 in order to tame the deficit and shrink the national debt, Limbaugh just flat-out gave the game away:

    And again..

    Why wasn't there any complaints about the deficit under Odumbo??

    Oh.. wait.. OK So you don't really care about the balloning deficit...

    You are just slamming the GOP for their hypocrisy...

    Very good.. Carry on... :D

    Donald Trump certainly has one skill that aids Democrats, and that is to absolutely unify the Democratic Party in opposition to all things Trump.

    Yep.. He unified the Democrat Party around the 4 communist/socialist America haters..

    He made those America haters the face of the Democrat Party..

    Very shrewd play by President Trump.. :D

    Pelosi moved quickly to pass a House resolution condemning the president's racism, which passed largely on party lines (a scant few Republicans -- those who still have a shred of self-respect -- voted with the Democrats to condemn Trump). For acting so swiftly, Pelosi deserves at least an Honorable Mention.

    Yea.. A resolution that so violated the House Rules that it couldn't even be read on the floor!!!

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Leave it to Dumbocrats to pass a resolution that was so vile and disgusting it couldn't even be read on the House floor!!

    Once again.. President Trump rules... Dumbocrats drool...

    :D

    "I'm talking about human beings," Cummings said. "I'm not talking about people that come from, as the president said, shitholes. These are human beings. Human beings. Just trying to live a better life."

    Yea Cummings.. Two things that make your "emotional" tirade total bullshit..

    One.. ANYONE who commits a crime is "trying to live a better life".. That does not justify committing crimes..

    Second.. All of this happened during the Odumbo administration..

    Where was your "emotion" then??

    You don't care one whit about the illegal immigrant criminals at the border.. If you did, you would have held Obama to the same standard that you hold President Trump..

    Cummings, you are a hypocrite and a liar..

    You disgust me and you disgust every patriotic American in this country..

    [Congratulate Representative Elijah Cummings on his House contact page, to let him know you appreciate his efforts.]

    I will be sure and do that...

    All six voted against the $15 minimum wage bill passed by the House this week, and they should all be ashamed of themselves for doing so.

    They should be VERY proud of doing so..

    They just saved tens of millions of jobs..

    But our Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week this week is none other than Joe Biden.

    Oooooooo Yer gonna burn for that one!! :D

    We can all have a rational debate about whether the public option or Medicare For All is the best way forward, and we can respectfully disagree with each other. But it's got to be an honest debate. Let's leave the scaremongering to the Republicans, Joe, whaddya say?

    Maybe it's factually accurate?

    I mean, if you have a DEMOCRAT making the same claims as Republicans...????

    Don't you have to concede the possibility that THEY are right and you are wrong???

    I am also constrained to point out that Harris herself EXPLICITLY STATED that all private insurance would have to go..

    So, it seems to me that Democrats are the ones who are going to take Americans insurance away from them....

    On the other hand, Joe Biden DOES deserve to be dressed down for resurrecting one of the most blatant lies that has ever crossed a Democrats' mouth..

    "If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance.."

    :eyeroll:

    "Fool me once, shame on you.. Fool me twice, shame on me.."
    -Scotty

  4. [4] 
    Michale wrote:

    Military eyes 16-year-olds as ranks and candidates dwindle
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/18/military-recruiting-woes-spur-debate-over-enlistme/

    Something else to thank the Dumbocrat Party for.. :eyeroll:

  5. [5] 
    Michale wrote:

    Please explain exactly how AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT is racist??

    What's that you say?? You say that telling a person to go back their own country is racist??

    Hell, I tell asshole Brits to go back to their own country all the time... How, *EXACTLY* is that racist? Please provide facts.

    This was all simply a ploy to make the scumbag socialist/communist bitches the Face of the Democrat Party..

    To force Democrats to stand behind these 4 America hating lusers and show the country and the world what the Dumbocrat Party is all about..

    Simply NO RACISM involved whatsoever..

    And, as usual, Dumbocrats fell for it..

    President Trump says JUMP and Dumbocrats ask HOW HIGH on the way up... :D

    Point to Trump...

  6. [6] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is exactly ya'all's problem.. A problem shared by the entirety of the Dumbocrat Party..

    Ya'all think that just because something could POSSIBLY MAYBE be racism, that it IS racism..

    But ONLY when it pertains to President Trump or the Right..

    When Dumbocrats indulge in pure, unadulterated racism, as Pressley did with her "We don't want black or brown people, we just want their voices..", ya'all don't say dick about it..

    Funny how that is, eh?? :eyeroll:

  7. [7] 
    Michale wrote:

    Los Angeles police spied on anti-Trump protesters

    Case is one of several across the US of police targeting anti-Trump and anti-fascist groups with monitoring and criminal trials
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/19/los-angeles-police-informant-anti-trump-activist-protest

    As I said.. 98% of LEOs support the freely, fairly, legally and duly elected President.

    President Donald Trump...

  8. [8] 
    Michale wrote:

    Florida Dem admits lying about treating Pulse shooting victims: 'I just made it up'
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-florida-house-candidate-admits-she-lied-about-being-doctor-who-treated-pulse-nightclub-shootign-victims

    And the howls of indignation from Democrats over THIS Democrat's lies???

    {{cccchhhhhiiirrrrrrrpppppp}} {{ccchhhhhiiiiirrrrrpppppp}}

    Figures.. :eyeroll:

  9. [9] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

    Looks like President Trump's approval rating took a good upward tic... :D

    Which begs the question..

    If President Trump is as bad as ya'all claim...

    Why are his numbers similar to Odumbo's numbers???

    {{cchhhhiiirrrrrppppp}} {{cccchhhiiirrrrrpppp}}

    Yea... :D

  10. [10] 
    Michale wrote:

    Media cried wolf: Calling every Republican a racist lost its bite
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/453892-media-cried-wolf-calling-every-republican-a-racist-lost-its-bite

    It used to be that being called a 'racist' actually meant something..

    But every since Democrats tried to weaponize the word, to use it as a means of suppressing discussion and debate (JournoList), being called a 'racist' by an ignorant Democrat (I know, I know... Redundant) is a badge of honor...

    Once again, Dumbocrats stepping on their own wee-wees...

  11. [11] 
    Michale wrote:

    Once upon a time in the world of cable news, a guest or host or anchor calling anyone a racist would have considerable impact.

    From what we've seen this week, when it comes to that word, those days are long gone. A person simply can't turn on the news or scroll Twitterfor even more than a minute before hearing the word "racist" or "racism."

    For example, CNN and MSNBC said the word "racist" more than 1,100 times from Sunday to Tuesday, according to a tally conducted by Grabien Media, an online media production and news prep service.

    The count, which doesn't include on-screen graphics commonly known as chyrons, came two days after President Trump in a Sunday tweet said four Democratic congresswomen should "go back" to their home countries. All four congresswomen are U.S. citizens, members of minority groups and three were born in the U.S.

    The president, and his GOP allies on Capitol Hill, have underscored that his argument is simply an ideological one based on the four congresswomen, dubbed "the squad." What he argues is their collective embrace of pro-socialism and therefore anti-American, anti-Israeli anti-Semitic polices.

    Some critics in the media and on the Democratic side, along with a handful of Republicans, argue the opposite: The president's comments about the squad are naked racism. He's a fascist. He's mentally unstable. He's a 21st-century Hitler. In this insane climate, this kind of rhetoric is all perfectly acceptable — and has existed since Trump announced his candidacy.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) put things in proper perspective on the watering down of the racism charge against anyone with an "R" next to their name.

    "Something I have learned: If you are a Republican nominee for President – or President – you will be accused of being a racist," Graham tweeted earlier this week. "[Rep.] John Lewis (D-Ga.) compared John McCain’s campaign to being like that of George Wallace. It comes with the territory unfortunately."
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/453892-media-cried-wolf-calling-every-republican-a-racist-lost-its-bite

    Yep.. Ignorant Democrats (I know.. Redundant) will call someone... ANYONE.. racist at the drop of a dime. Regardless of whether there is actual racism or not..

    This was readily apparent all the way back to the George Zimmerman shooting... In a vain effort to alter reality and make the shooting all about race, Dumbocrats and their media lapdogs coined the term "White Hispanic" to try and paint GZ as a racist...

    I know Zimmerman personally and he is as far from a racist as is possible to be...

    But Dumbocrats just throw the term racist around like they are saying 'hello'....

    Sad because, when REAL racism should be condemned, Dumbocrats have so weakened the term, it's meaningless...

    It's especially ironic since it was the Democrat Party that STARTED the KKK and all the racism..

    And, as Democrats themselves have said.. Once a racist, always a racist...

  12. [12] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    It is disheartening, but no longer surprising, that the Republican 'leadership' is scared shitless. They are caught between a rock (Trump's assaults on our democracy) and a hard place (being 'primaried' by someone even more heartless than they.)
    Fortunately, Americans are paying attention and noting the Republicans' thundering silence. While Trump continues to insist that only by standing with him can Republicans hope to regain the House, the Virginia election in 2017 and the historic sweep by Democrats in the House in 2018 provide ample evidence that most American voters disagree.
    The DNC couldn't have come up with a better plan for huge gains by Democrats in 2020!

  13. [13] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    As reported in the New York Times, the business leaders in Hong Kong have been instrumental at least two times in blocking legislation that would have eroded freedoms that mainland China proposed.
    Where are America's business leaders? Why not a full-page ad denouncing the inhumane conditions of the 'detention centers'? Where is the outrage from all of the immigrants and descendants of immigrants who have created the hundreds of successful businesses in Silicon Valley?
    Has their silence been purchased so easily by a record stock market or fear of Trump 'singling out' at their company?

  14. [14] 
    TheStig wrote:

    Limbaugh really said that?!

    Not so much a gaffe as a confession.

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    RUss,

    You keep referring to the Democrats as the “incest party”, which seems odd from a person supporting a man who has talked about how his daughter is the type girl he loves to bang on multiple occasions!

    Of course, President Trump said nothing of the sort.. That's what you HEARD because you are a disgusting bigoted pig..

    But you really can't compare that to a bitch who marries her own brother..

    Granted, it was to commit immigration fraud, but still..

    But you won't condemn that because Oman has a -D after her name..

    She also always attacks Israel and gives comfort to the likes of Al Qaeda, the Taliban and ISIS...

    That's is your Democrat... :eyeroll:

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    DAVID STEINBERG: TYING UP LOOSE THREADS IN THE CURIOUS CASE

    In four intensely reported investigative columns — here (August 13, 2018), here (October 23, 2018), here (October 30, 2018), and here (November 5, 2018), — David Steinberg has explored the evidence suggesting that Ilhan Omar entered into a sham marriage with her brother in 2009. This is his fifth. He titles it “Meet Leila Elmi: The Missing Link Showing Ilhan Omar Married Her Brother.” Drawing on his research, interviews, and social media evidence he makes the case that Omar has engaged in a variety of fraudulent activities and willful misrepresentations related to her marital arrangements. He writes:

    On October 22, 2008, the U.S. State Department stopped accepting applications for the Priority 3/Refugee Family Reunification program — the process by which refugees can apply for asylum if one family member is already a legal U.S. resident. State halted the program because DNA testing — primarily of Somalis — had concluded that perhaps 87 percent of applicants were fraudulently claiming family relationships.

    Despite continuing war, Somalia of 2008 was not comparable to the open hell of the early 1990s, when an eight-year-old Ilhan and her family fled to Kenya’s Dadaab refugee camps. She lived there from 1991 until 1995, aged eight to 12. Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services then helped Ilhan, her sister Sahra, and their father Nur Said receive asylum in the United States along with thousands of other Somalis.

    The complicated moral question of fraud, let alone fault, among this 1990s wave of refugees escaping civil war will never be answered with accurate statistics. We will have to settle for adjectives like “widespread” and “rampant.” Yet the negative outcomes cannot be ignored. Even refugees with strong desire to assimilate with Western civic order are hampered by the possible discovery of conflicting documents. And compromising information becomes leverage in a community already difficult to police.

    Twelve-year-old Ilhan had no say on the manner in which she arrived in the United States.

    However, U.S. Congresswoman Ilhan Abdullahi Omar (D-MN) is now under scrutiny for acts she took beginning in 2009 — not 1995. In 2009, Omar was a 26-year-old U.S. citizen. She had been a U.S. citizen for nearly nine years.
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/david-steinberg-tying-up-loose-threads-in-the-curious-case.php

    Ilhan Omar..

    A quintessential Democrat.. A liar and a cheat...

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    Please read the verified evidence below — and read it alongside the three years of verified evidence published by Scott Johnson, Preya Samsundar, and myself (our work is linked here). The answers to those questions about 2009 appear to give probable cause to investigate Omar for eight instances of perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, up to eight years of state and federal tax fraud, two years of federal student loan fraud, and even bigamy.

    To be clear: The facts describe perhaps the most extensive spree of illegal misconduct committed by a House member in American history.

    "Extensive spree of illegal misconduct"...

    Funny how Democrats don't mind such when it's committed by a person with a -D after her name..

    :eyeroll:

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    The DNC couldn't have come up with a better plan for huge gains by Democrats in 2020!

    Yeah???

    Then explain to me how a candidate who has promised Open Borders, full and free health care for illegal immigrant criminals and throw all Americans off their healthcare plans...

    Explain to me how such a candidate is going to win over Independents, NPAs and Trump voters??

    {{ccchhhrrrrriiiiiippppppp}} {{{cchhhirrrrrppppppp}}}

    Yea... That's what I figured... :eyeroll:

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    It is disheartening, but no longer surprising, that the Republican 'leadership' is scared shitless.

    Really???

    Any FACTS to support you claim???

    Any facts at all???

    {{ccchhhrrrrriiiiiippppppp}} {{{cchhhirrrrrppppppp}}}

    Yea... That's what I figured... :eyeroll:

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    the historic sweep by Democrats in the House in 2018 provide ample evidence that most American voters disagree.

    Actually, the "sweep" wasn't at all historic.. Republicans had bigger sweeps under Clinton and Odumbo..

    Further, the FACTS prove beyond ANY doubt that the **ONLY** reason the Dumbocrats took the House is because their Dem candidates that pushed the Party over the top ran as Moderate to Right Democrats..

    So, if one really looks at the FACTS and is not blinded by Party slavery, the FACTS clearly show that the GOP is in a VERY good position to keep the White House, expand their Senate majority (AGAIN) **AND** take the House back from the Dumbocrats..

    Do you want to lay any bets against that happening???

    {{ccchhhrrrrriiiiiippppppp}} {{{cchhhirrrrrppppppp}}}

    Yea... That's what I figured... :eyeroll:

    :D

  21. [21] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    But you really can't compare that to a bitch who marries her own brother..

    Another conspiracy theory, Michale? I saw that website, and the guy's got more holes in his theory than music has divas.

    Oh well, anything to divert away from the awful truth about Republicans, eh?

    Truth is, you're just digging the hole deeper.

  22. [22] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    The FACTS clearly show that the GOP is in a VERY good position to keep the White House, expand their Senate majority **AND** take the House back from the Dumbocrats..

    Nonsense. I'll take that bet right now. In fact, as the republicants keep falling down the Trump sewer, I'd bet that they lose all three.

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    Looks like I am not the only one impressed by President Trump's Genius in the AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT controversy..

    A Democrat is ALSO impressed...

    Trump masterfully navigates ‘Send her back’ controversy

    Yet none of this is to suggest Trump is softening his harsh criticism of Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, some of which he repeated Thursday. His assertion that they are so radical as to be anti-American and anti-Israel is resonating even among some Dems, and he sees it as a political winner.

    As he said to me Tuesday, “I just feel these people hate our country. And I think people understand that we want people who love our country and are capable of loving our country.”

    Indeed, Omar, whom I regard as an unrepentant anti-Semite, further cemented her reputation by introducing legislation Thursday making it legal to organize boycotts against Israel. Predictably, she drew comparisons of the Jewish state to Nazi Germany and apartheid South Africa.

    Don’t expect more than a peep out of dissenting Dems. They’re afraid of her and of the shocking anti-Israel sentiment on the left.

    Trump, meanwhile, aims to make “the Squad,” as they call themselves, the face of the opposition and contrast his economic and security policies with their socialist-inspired gibberish. Ironically, the “go back” demand had helped Trump in that regard because Dems rallied to defend the four, adding to their prominence.
    https://nypost.com/2019/07/18/trump-masterfully-navigates-send-her-back-controversy/

    Once again... One should marvel at the ability of President Trump to manipulate the Dumbocrats into doing exactly what he wants.. :D

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nonsense. I'll take that bet right now. In fact, as the republicants keep falling down the Trump sewer, I'd bet that they lose all three.

    OK, you are on record as saying that Democrats will win the White House and the Senate and keep the House..

    We'll see what happens.. :D

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    Another conspiracy theory, Michale? I saw that website, and the guy's got more holes in his theory than music has divas.

    Yea?? For example???

    You always spew out this bullshit and yet, you can **NEVER** back it up...

    Funny how that is ALWAYS the case, eh? :D

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nonsense. I'll take that bet right now. In fact, as the republicants keep falling down the Trump sewer, I'd bet that they lose all three.

    How, EXACTLY, can a Dem candidate who promises Open Borders, Free Full HealthCare for illegal immigrant criminals and promises to throw ALL Americans off their healthcare plans...

    How is such a candidate going to attract Independents, NPAs and Trump voters??

    NO ONE here has been able to answer that.. :D

  27. [27] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    Not that 'The Mooch' deserves any respect, but this is a preview of to LOTS more infighting like this.
    Thank you, Donald J Trump, for making Republicans choose sides.
    https://www.mediaite.com/news/scaramucci-condemned-and-disinvited-from-gop-fundraiser-for-criticizing-trumps-racist-tweets/

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    Thank you, Donald J Trump, for making Republicans choose sides.

    Yep... President Trump makes Republicans choose sides..

    Love America

    Or

    Hate America

    It's obvious what side the Dumbocrat Party is on....

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    Not that 'The Mooch' deserves any respect, but this is a preview of to LOTS more infighting like this.

    Facts to support??

    Or just wishful thinking..??

    :D

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democratic Governors Urge 2020 Field Not To Veer Left

    “After claiming governorships from Republicans in seven states last year, including in crucial presidential battlegrounds like Wisconsin and Michigan, Democratic governors should have good reason to celebrate,” the New York Times reports.

    “But there was as much anxiety as optimism when the governors gathered for their annual fund-raising retreat on Nantucket last weekend and grappled with why a party that won with a pragmatic message in 2018 is now veering sharply to the left.”
    https://politicalwire.com/2019/07/19/democratic-governors-urge-2020-field-not-to-veer-left/

    Anyone who doesn't believe the Democrat Party is veering sharply to the Left is simply delusional or blinded by Party slavery...

  31. [31] 
    John M from Ct. wrote:

    Hmm.

    Of the 30 posts seen here in the first 11 hours, 22 are by one poster. That's 73%. Going by word count (roughly 3700 out of 4300), we see 86% of the reply board owned by one poster.

    I've long been used to skipping past posts here that I don't care to read, but today I found I'd basically skipped to the end of the entire board by doing so.

    Would it be possible to request a limit of say, three or five comments by individuals over each 12-hour period, to make typographical, intellectual, political, and emotional room for others who enjoy reading Chris' thoughts but feel unable or unwilling to comment in the face of such overwhelming verbiage from a single point of view?

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of the 30 posts seen here in the first 11 hours, 22 are by one poster. That's 73%. Going by word count (roughly 3700 out of 4300), we see 86% of the reply board owned by one poster.

    "I know!! Ain't it cool!!"
    -John Travolta, BROKEN ARROW

    Would it be possible to request a limit of say, three or five comments by individuals over each 12-hour period, to make typographical, intellectual, political, and emotional room for others who enjoy reading Chris' thoughts but feel unable or unwilling to comment in the face of such overwhelming verbiage from a single point of view?

    Yea?? And yet, you and your fellow Trump/America ALSO only offer a single point of view.. Funny how that is, eh?? :D

    Why don't you just ask what you REALLY want to ask..

    "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest!!"

    Face the facts, sunshine.. If I weren't around NO ONE here would have ANY facts... :D

    But you want me gone?? You know how to do it..

    Give it yer best shot, son... :D

    Now run away from another month or two.. :D

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    Not that 'The Mooch' deserves any respect, but this is a preview of to LOTS more infighting like this.

    President Trump enjoys a 93% approval rating amongst Republicans..

    Those are Saint Ronald Reagan numbers, my young padawan..

    If you HONESTLY believe that there will be infighting amongst the GOP and President...

    You have a LOT of growing up to do... :D

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    Put another way..

    NO ONE can credibly make the claim that that the Democrat Party is united.. Oh sure, President Trump whipped up a nice little diddy and Dumbocrats are dancing their asses off to it..

    But it's temporary and even now, cracks and fissures are widening within the Democrat Party..

    You just HAVE to know that, when one group of Democrats accuses the Speaker of being racist???

    Ya'all just HAVE to know that there is no unity...

    Compare this Democrat Civil War to the stat I mentioned above..

    President Trump enjoys SAINT RONALD REAGAN popularity amongst the GOP...

    So, going into the election, the GOP is united and the Dumbocrat Party is not..

    And you people think that Dims will not only be able to keep the House and take the White House but also take the Senate!???

    BBBWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Dream on... :D

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Some more interesting FACTS for you people..

    Republicans only need to flip 20 seats to take the House..

    30 House Democrats from Trump Voter Areas are up for re-election...

    41 House Democrats running are freshman and a representatives' freshman re-election is the most vulnerable and dangerous for the incumbent..

    Give the fact that Occasional Cortex and her "squad" are the ones truly in charge in the House, its all but a forgone conclusion that Democrats will lose the House...

    Don't kill the messenger, just because he has the facts...

    :D

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    Another factoid to lay on ya'all..

    40% of the declared House Democratic challengers as of 30 May 2019, are challenging Democratic incumbents. And many of those are lined up directly with Occasional Cortex and her squad..

    If those challengers succeed in primarying Democrat incumbents....

    Well, I think you can imagine the slaughter that the General Election will bring..

  37. [37] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I don't think Americans will ever really understand what it will take to develop a fully universal healthcare system.

    And, that is very surprising to me.

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yet the real racists are on the left. Consider Massachusetts Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley saying, “We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice. We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice. We don’t need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice. We don’t need queers that don’t want to be a queer voice.”

    Consider both the racism and the fascist arrogance in that statement.

    First, Pressley asserts the right to define the authenticity of voices.

    Second, she defines each voice by skin color, religion, or sexual orientation rather than the content of their character.

    Third, she dismisses or dehumanizes everyone who fails to meet her standard.

    Consider her arrogance just in regard to the African-American community. By her standard, former Secretary of State Colin Powell isn't authentically black. Neither is former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Sen. Tim Scott of South Caroline, or Republican senatorial candidate John James of Michigan.

    You can go through each of Pressley’s defined subgroups and find people who deeply disagree with her.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/newt-gingrich-trump-omar-aoc-2020-election-racism-patriotism

    Blatant racism from a Democrat..

    And it doesn't even warrant a dishonorable mention in the MDDOTW???

  39. [39] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Chris,

    I think you know very well that the Medicare-for-all "plan" as described by Bernie and the others will not work.

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    Opinion: Good economic news is awkward for Democratic candidates

    It’s difficult to overstate either the disdain these presidential hopefuls harbor for the U.S. economic system or their willingness to ignore its benefits. At the very least, it’s a politically risky stance. A recent Gallup poll found that while less than a third of Americans take pride in the U.S. political system, 89 percent of Republicans and 64 percent of Democrats are proud of America’s economic achievements.

    Trump’s policies of lowering taxes, reducing regulations and encouraging domestic energy production have spurred economic growth that is reflected in the president’s rising approval rating. Democratic presidential contenders who keep asking American voters “Who are you going to believe, me or your lying wallet?” might not like the answer.
    https://www.tauntongazette.com/opinion/20190718/opinion-good-economic-news-is-awkward-for-democratic-candidates

    Ya gotta feel sorry for the Dem candidates.. They have no where to go but down.. :D

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    For Biden, the debate draw is a potential disaster, and an opportunity
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/19/opinions/biden-debate-draw-potential-disaster-and-opportunity-axelrod/index.html

    Your comments???

    It's a CNN link.. yer safe.. :D

  42. [42] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Sorry, Michale, no time now and I'm too hot … later tonight …. much later ...

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    Sorry, Michale, no time now and I'm too hot … later tonight …. much later ...

    Fair enough... Axelrod gives Biden a lot of good advice..

    I'll be around when ya.. er.. cool off.. :D

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    Arizona Dem Kyrsten Sinema joins GOP in push for program that would quickly deport migrants without valid asylum claims
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sinema-program-remove-migrants-asylum

    Democrats are finally coming around to President Trump's way of thinking regarding illegal immigrants and fraudulent asylum claims..

    Comments???

  45. [45] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Re the medicare debate:

    Polls have shown that, in general, people who have coverage are satisfied with it. And support for Medicare for All schemes consistently falls when pollsters tell respondents that enrollment in the new plan would be mandatory, even for people who already have employer coverage.

    One reason may be that public opinion about Medicare for All reflects not just feelings about their existing insurance but also feelings about the alternative, especially in an era when faith in government remains, by historical standards, relatively low.

    Plus there are bound to be Americans, maybe quite a few of them, who simply assume that any change is bound to be a change for the worse. And as the Obamacare experience showed vividly, people unhappy about health care reforms can be a lot more vocal than those who are happy about them.

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, in other words, ya'all are advocating FORCING Americans to lose their health care plans OVER their objections..

    How is that any different than what ya'all accused the GOP of back when they were trying to get rid of TrainWreckCare???

  47. [47] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    So, in other words, ya'all are advocating FORCING Americans to lose their health care plans OVER their objections..

    No, but good try. No, we're saying the opposite, that that shouldn't be done.

    You need to stay out of this - the GOP has NO alternative plan at all!

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    No, but good try. No, we're saying the opposite, that that shouldn't be done.

    So, you OPPOSE Harris' et al plans to eliminate private health insurance..

    Can you please point to your objection you made at the time??

    No, you cannot..

    WHY is that???

    BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T OBJECT...

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, we have you on record now..

    The next time some Dumbocrat yahoo says that eliminating Private Healthcare is what they are going to do, YOU will object to that and say it's a bad idea..

    Right???

    Backpedaling in 3.... 2.... 1.....

  50. [50] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Right?

    Right. I have the right to disagree.

    Of course, if my entire party disagrees, well, I just have to support our nominee, and try to alleviate the problems that I see looming then.

    We don't have 'universal opinions' over here. Eventually, consensus works it all out.

    Y'know, Democracy.

  51. [51] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Well, I have to disagree with myself so soon, but there is one thing on which all Democrats agree:

    Trump and his entire criminal operation have to go.

    On that, we're pretty much universal. Heh.

  52. [52] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale,

    I upheld my end of the deal and answered your questions found in Thursday’s posting.

    Still haven’t gotten anything from you.

    “Pitter-patter, let’s get at her!”

    —Everyone in Letterkenny

  53. [53] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Balthy

    Just a reminder about Michale’s true purpose for being here... in his own words:

    >But, as usual, my comments are NOT a judgment on the actions of Odumbo OR President Trump..

    My comments are on the fact that ya'all's condemnations are totally and completely one sided...

    He’s not here to actually discuss politics or the day’s events, he simply seeks to troll people with false accusations that we condemn Trump for actions we typically support when those actions are carried out by Democrats. Only problem is that no one screws things up or does such idiotic things as Trump does.

  54. [54] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    34

    But it's temporary and even now, cracks and fissures are widening within the Democrat Party..

    The current political climate isn't temporary, sunshine; it's the same old shit different day where Donald Trump has been running on white identity grievance politics for quite awhile now. The theory is that Trump's favorability ratings are so pathetic to the majority of the American electorate that his only play is to drive up the negatives of his opponents. Trump chose to do this to Barack Obama by playing to the Tea Party asshats like yourself who claimed to be concerned about the debt and deficits but who are primarily scared of the changing face of America. Repeat: Trump's game is driving up his opponents' negatives by playing to the fears of the rubes like you who spew back Trump's divisive bullshit like bleating sheeple on cue.

    You just HAVE to know that, when one group of Democrats accuses the Speaker of being racist???

    That's sure the propaganda talking point in Right Wingnutistania where the definition of "facts" is the equivalent of propaganda for the ignorant bigots who demonize their opponents at Hair Dick Tater's command.

    If I were a Trump holster, I'm quite certain I would be less obsessed with what was happening in the opposition Party and a lot more concerned with what was happening right in my very own alleyway (pun intended).

    Ya'all just HAVE to know that there is no unity...

    You should get used to the idea that you have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER regarding what anyone here knows. If I were you, I would stop obsessing over everyone else's unity and pay attention to the status in my own driveway (again, pun intended).

    Compare this Democrat Civil War to the stat I mentioned above..

    I think you talk too much so very few here are actually reading all of your overdone bullshit. I skip about 3/4 of them myself because they're both repetitive and ignorant... basically you read a few, you've read them all when it's the same shit over and over. You might consider the concept of "quality over quantity" if you seriously wish to be heard versus being the board turd... otherwise, I'm sticking with the Neil M technique of "scrolling through bullshit mountain" and the Elizabeth Miller method of "ignoring your links."

    President Trump enjoys SAINT RONALD REAGAN popularity amongst the GOP...

    I don't think so. Also, Ronald Reagan would be the first one to identify Trump for the shitheel that he is due to the fact that Trump is pretty much against Reagan's main core beliefs.

    Besides, it's kind of ridiculous to be bragging about the "popularity amongst the GOP" when they have been shrinking on a quite regular basis since Donald Trump and his verbal diarrhea became the "voice" of the GOP, and the GOP we once knew exists now in name only.

    I can provide quite a lengthy list of prominent persons who have left the GOP because they were unwilling to remain in a Party that no longer represents conservative beliefs. People are naturally leaving the GOP because they refused to pass the GOP "purity test" which would actually be more accurately described as an "impurity test"... anyone not willing to forfeit their backbones in order to slither through the bog should exit the quagmire quickly.

    So, going into the election, the GOP is united and the Dumbocrat Party is not..

    Nice fantasy you got there, and the Seven Dwarfs are a quite cohesive unit despite their limited number of seven, but I digress.

    And you people think that Dims will not only be able to keep the House and take the White House but also take the Senate!???

    Sounds like your bullshit doesn't it? I personally think the Senate is a stretch, but I certainly wouldn't rule anything out in the same manner that you exhibited near daily when you repeatedly promised a "Red Tsunami" and listed out your reasoning in the same way you're doing now.

    Dream on... :D

    Nah. The rest of us will leave all that bullshit up to you and your ilk. Meanwhile, ya'all just keep looking out for that "Red Tsunami" you promised... powered by nothing more than the endless propaganda and hysterical ravings of Right Wingnutistania. Rube. :)

  55. [55] 
    Paula wrote:

    "Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but in hope of patriotism, or economic anxiety, religious values, dislike of opponents, or ignorance. That word is “Nazi.” Nobody cares about their motives anymore."

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/07/20/its-2019-time-to-stop-making-excuses-for-trump-supporters/

  56. [56] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    "They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"

    Wonderful article, Paula!

  57. [57] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Kick [54]: Yep, couldn't say it better myself.

  58. [58] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    46

    So, in other words, ya'all are advocating FORCING Americans to lose their health care plans OVER their objections..

    If only you had two brain cells to rub together to grasp the concept that everyone here isn't a one size fits all cock holster like the GOP puppets and mouthpieces (pun intended) such as yourself.

    How is that any different than what ya'all accused the GOP of back when they were trying to get rid of TrainWreckCare???

    You seem completely unaware that the GOP is currently still attempting to do away with the ACA by killing it the court system.

    The Trump administration's attempts to kill the ACA and the Pathological Lying POTUS not being trusted by Americans regarding health care is one of the primary reasons the GOP was defeated in the midterm elections, which you insisted over and over ad nauseam would be a "Red Tsunami."

    If you had any ability whatsoever to retain thoughts and connect the dots, you'd be able to understand the fact that Trump is still attempting to do EXACTLY what you claim would make a candidate unelectable... but you don't so you can't.

  59. [59] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    53

    Just a reminder about Michale’s true purpose for being here.

    But, as usual, my comments are NOT a judgment on the actions of Odumbo OR President Trump..

    My comments are on the fact that ya'all's condemnations are totally and completely one sided... ~ Michale

    Great point, Russ. The board troll reveals himself yet again; something he is frequently wont to do here in Weigantia; indeed, he seems quite incapable of not doing that repeatedly. The only other constant he displays regularly here in Weigantia is his hatred for all that this forum represents and her inhabitants.

    Hey, Russ, it's a lucky thing for the CW/Weigantia Hater that Chris doesn't run this forum in the same manner in which Hair Dick Tater is attempting to run America, isn't it? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Connecting the dots is not exactly the strong suit of the hysterical hypocritical admitted troll.

    He’s not here to actually discuss politics or the day’s events, he simply seeks to troll people with false accusations that we condemn Trump for actions we typically support when those actions are carried out by Democrats. Only problem is that no one screws things up or does such idiotic things as Trump does.

    Proposed forum slogan:

    Weigantia: Love us or GTFO, admitted troll!

    Hugs and kisses
    XOXOXOX

  60. [60] 
    Kick wrote:

    Balthasar
    57

    Kick [54]: Yep, couldn't say it better myself.

    Well then, I disagree; I believe you could definitely say it better. :)

  61. [61] 
    Kick wrote:

    Paula
    55

    Wow. Great article. :)

  62. [62] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Kick [59]

    I will give Michale credit, he is great at shifting the conversation away from what Trump has done and making it about us “needing” to defend the authenticity of our outrage. But lately he has overplayed that form of deflection...running it into the ground because there is no way to actually defend Trump’s actions.

    I don’t know what if it is just me, but it seems like more and more of the articles he posts are written in Trumpkinese — garbled phrases that almost form coherent reasoning, but never quite manage to pull it off.

  63. [63] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Would it be possible to request a limit of say, three or five comments by individuals over each 12-hour period, to make typographical, intellectual, political, and emotional room for others who enjoy reading Chris' thoughts but feel unable or unwilling to comment in the face of such overwhelming verbiage from a single point of view?

    You can't possibly be serious. No, that would be most impossible.

    Emotional room!?

    Oh boy, have you come to the wrong place!

  64. [64] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    I read the Axelrod piece on CNN's website and found it to be seriously ho-hum.

    Of course, these debates could be a disaster or opportunity for each of the candidates.

    Biden's problem is that he respects the protocol of a presidential primary debate, abruptly ending his comments and apologizing for going a bit over his time limit. He's just polite that way.

    And, Biden has forgotten more about domestic and foreign policy than all of his democratic rivals in this primary have ever known.[I hasten to add that by 'forgotten' I simple mean that he doesn't live in his very long political past and is always forward looking, moving on to the next critical issue and working to address it.]

    The debates with the ridiculously short time limits to answer questions etc. is not Biden's best venue.

    And, I do agree that Biden has to be perceived as having done better and outperforming all the rest in the upcoming CNN debate. I'll probably watch it in mute mode. Heh.

  65. [65] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Joe doesn't have to win the debate, he can become president just by keeping his cool and focus on the positive.

  66. [66] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    there is a lot in anyone's past which in isolation might not seem to be the wisest move, but who knows what other worse consequences might have been had they not occurred?

    There are many parts of my youth that I'm not proud of. There were... loose threads - untidy parts of me that I would like to remove. But when I... pulled on one of those threads - it'd unravel the tapestry of my life.
    ~Picard, TNG

  67. [67] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You and I know that he doesn't have to win the debate but the press (his favourite people) will try their best to destroy him as they most always try to do, often with some success.

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    Russ

    My comments are on the fact that ya'all's condemnations are totally and completely one sided...

    My comments in that one instance (and many other instances) where on the fact that ya'all's condemnations are totally and completely one sided...

    That doesn't mean that ALL my comments serve that purpose..

    If it were, I would never post any original comment, I would just post responses to ya'all's comments..

    DUH.....

    Didn't really think that one thru, didja???

    BBBWWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    Joshua,

    Joe doesn't have to win the debate, he can become president just by keeping his cool and focus on the positive.

    I disagree..

    THAT would be sound advice going into the FIRST debate..

    But, given his performance in the last debate, I do believe Biden has to knock it out of the park in this debate to remain in the lead...

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    there is a lot in anyone's past which in isolation might not seem to be the wisest move, but who knows what other worse consequences might have been had they not occurred?

    Surely you would apply such sage wisdom to President Trump as well, eh?? :D

    There are many parts of my youth that I'm not proud of. There were... loose threads - untidy parts of me that I would like to remove. But when I... pulled on one of those threads - it'd unravel the tapestry of my life.
    ~Picard, TNG

    One of the best TNG episodes that aired.. ANY 'Q' episode is a great episode..

    The only 'Q' episode I wasn't totally thrilled with was his DS9 appearance..

    But Voyager??? Awesome 'Q' episodes... :D

    "Did you want to talk {Trek}?? Or were you just making chit chat??"
    -Bill Murray, GROUNDHOG DAY

    :D

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    You can't possibly be serious. No, that would be most impossible.

    Emotional room!?

    Oh boy, have you come to the wrong place!

    "I know, right!??"
    -Felix, WRECK IT RALPH

  72. [72] 
    Michale wrote:

    But lately he has overplayed that form of deflection...running it into the ground because there is no way to actually defend Trump’s actions.

    Have ya noticed that, when you get your asses handed to you intellectually, you refuse to address the FACTS (because you don't have any FACTS of your own) and then try and make the whole conversation about me personally??

    That is happening more and more these days as Dumbocrats are run into the ground and you simply have no facts to support ANY of your Trump/America hatred.. :D

    I don't mind.. It's fun making people like you look like fools and idjuts and bigots..

    :D

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    I read the Axelrod piece on CNN's website and found it to be seriously ho-hum.

    I thought it was pretty good advice.. Especially that Biden should give as good as he gets..

    Especially the part of "For unknown reasons, Biden was caught flat-footed by Harris in the first debate, giving rise to new questions about his age and stamina. (I still don't understand why Biden didn't play his strongest card when Harris challenged him, which is his partnership with the nation's first black president -- "Kamala, Barack Obama examined every aspect of my record and chose me to be his Vice President. That should tell you all you need to know about my record and commitment on civil rights.")

    That would have been a MAGNIFICENT slap down..

    Biden's problem is that he respects the protocol of a presidential primary debate, abruptly ending his comments and apologizing for going a bit over his time limit. He's just polite that way.

    I completely agree..

    You will recall I said as much when I advised Biden not to enter the race.. He is simply too nice a guy to be able to participate in the Blood Sport that primaries ad elections have become..

    And, Biden has forgotten more about domestic and foreign policy than all of his democratic rivals in this primary have ever known.[I hasten to add that by 'forgotten' I simple mean that he doesn't live in his very long political past and is always forward looking, moving on to the next critical issue and working to address it.]

    Again, you are preaching to the choir.. One of the things we have in common is the respect for Joe Biden..

    That's why I was so very disappointed by some of the things he has said.. That crack about AntiFa terrorists being "courageous Americans" was especially wounding.. If he does make it thru to the General, that crack will come back and bite him on the ass..

    The debates with the ridiculously short time limits to answer questions etc. is not Biden's best venue.

    True.. But we have the primary we have not the one we wish we had..

    Democrats really shot themselves in the foot by having so many candidates...

    One might say the GOP did the same, but not really..

    And, I do agree that Biden has to be perceived as having done better and outperforming all the rest in the upcoming CNN debate. I'll probably watch it in mute mode. Heh.

    Wow, you said what I said even before I said it!! :D

    I completely agree.. A draw for Biden won't do it in this debate.. He has to knock it out of the park for him to maintain his lead...

    "Good talk"
    -Rodney McKay

    :D

  74. [74] 
    Michale wrote:

    I upheld my end of the deal and answered your questions found in Thursday’s posting.

    You got a good start..

    You addressed TWO of my comments..

    Only 8 more to go...

    And just post the comment and your response to them here.. I am not a "living in the past" kinda guy when it comes to Weigantia... :D

  75. [75] 
    Michale wrote:

    CEO Bill Pulte: Trump changed the 'reality of philanthropy' with one tweet helping combat vet

    After being retweeted by Trump, businessman surprises veteran with a new car

    Pulte Capital CEO Bill Pulte and recipient Lena Ramon talk about the extraordinary gift on 'Fox & Friends.'

    Pulte Capital CEO Bill Pulte argued on Saturday that President Trump changed the face of philanthropy, noting that he was able to raise thousands of dollars for veterans after the president retweeted him.

    "I'm not sure many other presidents would have done it, and literallly with one tweet -- he calls it his typewriter, I call it his magic typewriter -- he literally punched a whole in the reality of philanthropy," Pulte told "Fox & Friends" on Saturday.

    Pulte's comments came after Trump's help allowed him to buy a car for a combat veteran. He initially sent Trump a message on Twitter, pledging to give $30,000 to a Veteran if the president retweeted him.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/ceo-bill-pulte-trump-changed-philanthropy-with-one-tweet

    President Trump does a good thing here..

    Well anyone here give him credit without attacking him???

  76. [76] 
    Michale wrote:

    HA!!!

    Almost to the day, President Trump's job approval rating is identical to Obama's approval rating at the same time of their respective Presidencies..

    So, APPARENTLY, the FACTS (as ya'all perceive "facts") are that President Trump is as good of a POTUS as Obama was..

    OUCH!!! That's gotta hurt!!! :D

  77. [77] 
    Michale wrote:

    Iran seizes two British tankers and makes a huge mistake

    There will be furious embarrassment in the British government this evening over Iran's seizure of two British oil tankers today. One of those tankers is British-flagged, and the other is British-owned.

    Still, Iran has made a strategic miscalculation here.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/iran-seizes-two-british-tankers-and-makes-a-huge-mistake

    Ha... The Brits have a lot of egg on their face, what with their support of Iran appeasement and all..

    Doesn't take a genius to realize that Iran is not a good peace partner...

    Maybe Britain should have gone the Obama way and gave Iran hundreds of billions of dollars... :eyeroll:

  78. [78] 
    Michale wrote:

    WOW..

    PICARD
    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls053181649/videoplayer/vi308526105?ref_=hm_hp_i_1

    Nice ta see a familiar face with Jean Luc... :D

  79. [79] 
    Michale wrote:

    Make that 2... :D

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:

    Speaking of TREK...

    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a25834754/star-trek-discovery-season-3-release-date-cast-plot-trailer-netflix/

    One of my biggest beefs with Discovery is how it totally blows Star Trek canon out of the water..

    According to TPTB, Season 3 of Discovery will answer a lot of my gripes and will explain the discrepancies..

    This was started with Season 2 and Captain Pike's explanation as to why the original Enterprise did not have the holographic communication system that really wasn't used, Star Fleet wide, until well into Deep Space Nine..

    That's one of my biggest canon gripes, technology wise...

    It's going to be interesting to see how well Discovery will be able to mesh with what we know of Star Trek...

    Maybe a visit by a young Lieutenant-Commander James T Kirk would not be out of line here.. :D

    Hopefully, we find out in September when STD S3 is rumored to launch...

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    But, getting back to Iran...

    That said, Iran's action here presents two problems for Tehran.

    First, it will encourage Britain to support the U.S. sanctions pressure campaign against Iran. With a new British prime minister entering office next week, the U.K. will want to regain the initiative here against appearing weak. But Iran's action also makes it likelier that France and Germany will adopt a tougher stance against it. Those nations have pursued an appeasement strategy until now, but they will view Iran's escalated endangerment of global energy supplies as intolerable.

    Ultimately, then, Iran is heading for more economic damage. These seizures might make the hard-liners feel good, but they've made a big mistake.

    I honestly don't know what Iran was thinking... They just HAD to know that their actions will push coalition forces into President Trump's orbit of thinking..

    Or maybe they believed all the bullshit about how world leaders hate President Trump and would never side with him...

    Looks like Iran is going to be given a bitch-slapped crash course in REALITY... :D

  82. [82] 
    Michale wrote:

    Behold...

    One is an ungrateful refugee from a war-torn African nation who consistently demeans the country that saved her and her family. Another is a foul-mouthed historical illiterate who called the president a “motherf—er” and vowed to impeach him the very night she was sworn in as a new congresswoman. Yet another is a camera-hungry drama queen who injects gender, race, and nationality into every political debate because she can’t win on the merits of her argument. And one represents a congressional seat once held by John F. Kennedy and, on the night of her primary victory, called the president a “racist, misogynistic, truly empathy-bankrupt man.”

    Representatives Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), Rashida Talib (D-Mich.), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), and Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.)—the so-called squad of freshman Democratic congresswomen now in Donald Trump’s Twitter crosshairs—have little in the way of professional accomplishments or hard-earned credentials. (Tlaib is the only one with a postgraduate degree; Pressley did not even graduate from college. None has started a business or built a career outside of public service.) They range in age from 29 to 44. Despite being on the job for less than seven months, they’ve captured the fawning admiration of the news media and earned a strong following on social media.

    Their shared ideology is rooted in racial score-settling: As the squad tells it, white men are villains and captors, and white supremacists lurk in every corner of America. The plight of illegal immigrants is more important than the plight of working-class citizens in the Midwest. And the United States is a menace to the world. Earlier this week, Omar mocked the notion of “America the Great” and confessed she is “ashamed of . . . continuing to live in [America’s] hypocrisy.”
    https://amgreatness.com/2019/07/18/pelosi-cant-disown-her-political-progeny/

    The Face of the Democrat Party... :D

    The Democrat Party doesn't stand a CHANCE in 2020... :D

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    CAREFUL DANCE

    2020 Democrats Are Starting to Turn Obama’s Legacy Against Biden

    The former VP has tied himself closely to the president he served. His primary opponents are trying to complicate that.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/2020-democrats-are-starting-to-turn-obamas-legacy-against-biden

    This is not Obama's Democrat Party any more..

    The Party has gotten as hateful and as intolerant and downright mean as they accuse to Republican Party of being..

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    Helen Raleigh: 'The squad' is now the face of the Democratic Party and that means Trump's gonna win

    Washington has been caught in a dumpster fire. It started with President Trump's tweets telling four Democratic congresswomen, who are also known as "the squad," to "go back" to the countries they came from. The Democratic-led House swiftly passed a resolution condemning President Trump as a racist.

    Trump hasn't backed down, and he continues to lash out on Twitter. In a campaign rally, his supporters chanted "send her back" in reference to one member of the squad, Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn. Of course, the squad fired right back. Both #Sendherback and #IstandwithIlhan trended on Twitter, so it doesn't seem the dumpster fire will go out anytime soon.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/helen-raleigh-the-squad-trump-democratic-party

    Yep.... President Trump is playing the long game.. The long game that ends 3 Nov 2020... :D

  85. [85] 
    Michale wrote:

    HOLY HELL!!!!!

    Who would have POSSIBLY thought it!!!

    Sanders says he’ll cut staffers’ hours to maintain $15-an-hour wage
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-announces-it-will-cut-hours-to-pay-staffers-15-minimum-wage-prompting-mockery

    If you pay your workers MORE, you have to cut back the number of workers!!!

    A BIG and OBVIOUS **NO SHIT SHERLOCK** that Dumbocrats just DON'T seem to get...

  86. [86] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    In Ontario, there was a raise to a new minimum wage of $14/hour. No problemo, Michale.

    In fact, it has been great for staff morale and easier to get and keep good people.

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    In Ontario, there was a raise to a new minimum wage of $14/hour. No problemo, Michale.

    Yea??

    Ontario's $15 Minimum Wage 'Devastating' To Businesses, Groups Say
    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/05/30/ontario-15-minimum-wage_n_16882556.html

    Facts say something different..

    It's simply common sense..

    If your labor costs increase, you have to adjust..

    Either by lowering your labor costs by firing employees or increasing your revenue by raising prices which reduces demand...

    Ideology does not bend to reality..

    You raise costs at one point, you have to reduce costs at other points...

    In fact, it has been great for staff morale and easier to get and keep good people.

    But "bad people" (IE people unwilling to work) still need to get paid...

  88. [88] 
    Michale wrote:

    If your labor costs increase, you have to adjust..

    Either by lowering your labor costs by firing employees or increasing your revenue by raising prices which reduces demand...

    Ideology does not bend to reality..

    The biggest proponent of $15 an hour PROVES this..

    Bernie has to fire some people so he can afford to pay the other people $15 p/h...

    THAT is the reality...

    $15 an hour was tried in many PNW communities.. It was DEVASTATING to those communities... Massive unemployment resulted..

    It's a law of nature..

    Increased labor costs MUST result in a cost reduction elsewhere or an income increase somewhere..

    You can't get blood from a stone..

  89. [89] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It's not $15 … par for the course for the HP.

  90. [90] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    If a business can't afford $14/hour or even a little more then it doesn't deserve to be in business.

  91. [91] 
    Michale wrote:

    If a business can't afford $14/hour or even a little more then it doesn't deserve to be in business.

    And yet, those kinds of businesses provides hundreds, thousands, even hundreds of thousands of jobs..

    I would think that having a job that pays low wages is better than having no job at all, no???

    $15 an hour is an entitlement, not a fair wage...

    The problem is those that push the $15 p/h wage are basing the wage on the NEEDS of the employee...

    That has NEVER been a basis for wage.... Wage always has been and always will be based on the WORK itself..

  92. [92] 
    Michale wrote:

    $15 an hour is an entitlement, not a fair wage...

    I should clarify that to read that $15 p/h is thought of as an entitlement by the $15 p/h crowd..

    They are saying, in effect, "It doesn't matter what the work is, I am entitled to a high wage...."

    That's bullshit and has NEVER been the way the free markets work..

  93. [93] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    "Did you want to talk {Trek}?? Or were you just making chit chat??"

    i think it is relevant to joe biden's past. The vulnerability kamala, corey and other opponents have touched on is that he hasn't given a coherent justification for having served constituents as a young former republican in the political climate of the late 60's/ early 70's.

    What they and others don't get is that the give and take of politics back then required some give to people and positions that are now no longer needed in order to get things that were needed more, and which we now take for granted.

    JL

  94. [94] 
    neilm wrote:

    We are setting a record in new temperature records - so many are being broken at once that you'd almost think there was some sort of systemic change in the climate that is driving the earth hotter.

    Odd that the President "It snowed outside so Global Warming Can't be Real" isn't tweeting about this.

    I'm throwing a few bucks to Jay Inslee to up his chances of getting into the third debate. I know it is quixotic, and that the money I donate to more direct solutions is probably more effective, but the real issue is that we need to talk about this more and keep remembering that every year we do nothing, the cost of addressing the impact goes up.

  95. [95] 
    neilm wrote:

    Michale [I know nothing about economics] 7/18/19:

    "I have no idea..

    I am not the businessman that President Trump is nor do I have any real knowledge of economics beyond what everybody knows."

    [Sidebar: News Alert Michale, Trump knows nothing about economics either - he thinks the Chinese are paying the import taxes he imposed on Americans]

    Michale [I'm suddenly an expert on economics] 7/21/19:

    "If your labor costs increase, you have to adjust..

    Either by lowering your labor costs by firing employees or increasing your revenue by raising prices which reduces demand."

    You were right three days ago on 7/19 Michale, you know nothing about economics.

    Let's take your latest claim, and just laugh for a while before we explain the error to you.

    There, chuckle over. Sad really. Now, let's see if you really want to understand the impact of minimum wages in an economy, or you want to rant and spew the drivel you've been fed by the Fox News disinformation campaign.

    As you state, the price of e.g. a burger has to cover the costs of inputs, including labor and all other costs. If we change the labor costs by 50% (i.e. minimum wage going from $10 to $15/hour), the total cost of the burger (McD's labor costs are 26% of their overall costs) would go from e.g. $3 to $3.40. However low salaried people are the most abundant consumers of fast food, so they have e.g. $200/week more in their paychecks and the price of their burgers has only gone up 40 cents.

    Thus, for your price vs. volume equation to work, you need to convince us all that the normal McD's customer eats more than (200 / 0.4 =) 500 burgers/week.

    As Seattle has shown, raising the minimum wage takes a little bit of money from the richer tranches of society and has very large positive impacts on the lowest paid people in society.

    And what do you think would happen to the eating habits of people who just got some more money in their paycheck - maybe an extra visit to McD's once or twice a month? It is companies like McD's who should be pulling for incremental and COLA protected increases in the minimum wage - they compete on brand and process excellence, not lower wage bills than the place next door.

  96. [96] 
    neilm wrote:

    Let's take another minimum wage example - new cars.

    About 1/3 of the cost of a new car is labor. This if every employee involved was earning $10/hour and we raised the minimum wage to $15/hour, the cost of a $30,000 car would go up $5,000 to $35,000 - not good.

    However, of course, only a small percentage of the labor costs are minimum wage - the executives, the skilled machine operators, etc. etc. are already earning way over minimum wage (the entry level marketing people we hire earn $40/hour). A more likely impact on the labor costs are about 5%, even taking into account the ripple upwards effect (i.e. the entry level marketing people are still getting $40/hour, but a $20/hour machinist might now get $22/hour). The reason for this is simple, so little of the overall costs are going to those earning under $20/hour, and they are those likely to see a positive change in their take home.

    So the cost of the new car has gone from $30,000 to $31,500. Since most people pay their cars off monthly over 3 years, the increase is about $10/week. So a McD's employee whose paycheck has gone from 40 hours x $10/hour = $400/week to 40 hours x $15/hour = $600/week is still well ahead.

    The entry level marketing people are earning 40 hours x $40/hour = $1,600/week are unlikely to decide not to buy a burger at 40 cents more or a car at $10/week more.

    And remember, I'm working with a 50% increase in minimum wage applied instantly.

  97. [97] 
    Michale wrote:

    We are setting a record in new temperature records - so many are being broken at once that you'd almost think there was some sort of systemic change in the climate that is driving the earth hotter.

    OH MY GOD!!!! IT's HOT in the summer!!!

    Who would have possibly thunked that!!

    And yet, you ALSO claim that Global Warming causes record COLD temps as well..

    Why not just come out and admit it?? "Global Warming" is like "God's Will".. It's responsible for EVERYTHING...

    And all you need for either is faith.. :D

    As Seattle has shown, raising the minimum wage takes a little bit of money from the richer tranches of society and has very large positive impacts on the lowest paid people in society.

    And yet, the FACTS show that raising the min wage to $15 p/h was a DISASTER for Seattle..

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2017/06/27/report-finds-seattles-15-minimum-wage-may-hurting-workers/431424001/

    So, we have your bullshit fantasy claims..

    And then we have the FACTS...

  98. [98] 
    Michale wrote:

    What they and others don't get is that the give and take of politics back then required some give to people and positions that are now no longer needed in order to get things that were needed more,

    Really?? Politics is not about give and take anymore??? IE compromise???

    Where is the evidence to support such a claim??

  99. [99] 
    Michale wrote:

    Or did I misunderstand what you were saying, JL...

    Always a possibility...

  100. [100] 
    neilm wrote:

    BTW, a simple model of labor costs for a fictional car company (see table below from excel, will probably not read very well - sorry in advance) should that in a normal company, a 50% increase in minimum wage with an upwards ripple will have less than a 1% increase in total overall costs.

    Thus the car cost would ride from $30,000 to about $30,240

    10% $10.00 $40,000 $15.00 $60,000
    15% $20.00 $120,000 $22.50 $135,000
    20% $30.00 $240,000 $31.00 $248,000
    15% $40.00 $240,000 $40.00 $240,000
    10% $50.00 $200,000 $50.00 $200,000
    10% $60.00 $240,000 $60.00 $240,000
    5% $70.00 $140,000 $70.00 $140,000
    5% $80.00 $160,000 $80.00 $160,000
    5% $90.00 $180,000 $90.00 $180,000
    5% $100.00 $200,000 $100.00 $200,000
    100% $1,760,000 $1,803,000 2%
    0.81%

  101. [101] 
    Michale wrote:

    The vulnerability kamala, corey and other opponents have touched on is that he hasn't given a coherent justification for having served constituents as a young former republican in the political climate of the late 60's/ early 70's.

    Biden was a REPUBLICAN!!???

    Why is this the first I am hearing of this!!???

  102. [102] 
    neilm wrote:
  103. [103] 
    Michale wrote:

    BTW, a simple model of labor costs for a fictional car company (see table below from excel, will probably not read very well - sorry in advance) should that in a normal company, a 50% increase in minimum wage with an upwards ripple will have less than a 1% increase in total overall costs.

    While I am sure you can tweak the numbers to apply to cars (how many mechanics are paid min wage) that is a small subset of the labor force..

    To take such a small subset and try and apply it to the entire labor market is utterly ridiculous..

    Which is not surprising because saying you can FORCE a 100% pay increase to ALL businesses and expect that here won't be repercussions is ALSO utterly ridiculous..

    It's the difference between living in a fantasy world (Dumbocrats) and living in reality (rest of the people who actually have more than 2 brain cells to rub together)....

    :eyeroll:

  104. [104] 
    Michale wrote:

    ritholtz.com/2018/10/seattle-studys-shocking-conclusion-minimum-wage-increases-benefits-workers/

    Why should I read Left wing propaganda..???

    Let's see what a REPUTABLE cite says about Ritzholt..

    Could Somebody Pass Barry Ritholtz The Cluebat Please? - Forbes
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/.../could-somebody-pass-barry-ritholtz-the-cluebat-pleas...

    Ritzholt is obviously a Left wing moron...

  105. [105] 
    neilm wrote:
  106. [106] 
    neilm wrote:

    Could Somebody Pass Barry Ritholtz The Cluebat Please? - Forbes
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/.../could-somebody-pass-barry-ritholtz-the-cluebat-pleas...

    404 error - you can't even post a link reliably Michale.

  107. [107] 
    neilm wrote:

    In another amusing side note, without California's job gains Trump's boasts about all the new jobs he has created goes up in smoke :)

    The irony is delicious. I wonder if he'd understand anyway if anybody around him was brave enough to tell him.

  108. [108] 
    neilm wrote:

    Michale:

    "small subset of labor force"

    Yes, that was my point. Try to understand what my point is before shooting yourself in the foot and making it for me.

    And not only are minimum wage earners a small subset of the labor force, they are also, by definition, and even smaller subset of the overall labor costs. Let me give you a really simple example:

    A two person business:

    Employee A: $7/hour, 40 hours/week, weekly cost $280

    Employee B: $25/hour, 40 hours/week, weekly cost $1,000

    Thus, even in a company where 50% of the employees are earning minimum wage, they only account for 22% of the labor costs.

    Big bad guvmint mandates $15/hour (>100% increase in minimum wage):

    Employee A: $15/hour, 40 hours/week, weekly cost $600

    Employee B: $25/hour, 40 hours/week, weekly cost $1,000

    Total increase in labor costs: 25%

    If labor costs are 1/3 of the total costs (remember, they are only 26% for McD's), then the total cost structure has only gone up 8%.

    Get a grip on reality Michale.

  109. [109] 
    Michale wrote:

    Jimmy Carter - one of America's greatest people:

    BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Good joke..

    404 error - you can't even post a link reliably Michale.

    You claim you never follow my links..

    Caught you in a nother lie

    BBBWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Get a grip on reality Michale.

    Says the moron who thinks you can increase labor costs 100% or more and there is no downside..

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  110. [110] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    And that's what the Joker sounds like.

  111. [111] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @balthasar,

    why so serious?

  112. [112] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    Biden was a REPUBLICAN!!???

    Why is this the first I am hearing of this!!???

    1. He never served as one

    2. You never asked

  113. [113] 
    neilm wrote:

    BTW, I've followed Barry Ritholz's investing philosophy for many years and it is very sound. If you are saving for a large, long-term goal (college, retirement) you could do a lot worse than understand his thinking and apply it.

  114. [114] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale

    My comments in that one instance (and many other instances) where on the fact that ya'all's condemnations are totally and completely one sided...

    That doesn't mean that ALL my comments serve that purpose..

    If it were, I would never post any original comment, I would just post responses to ya'all's comments..

    I agree that not all of your responses are “what-aboutisms” — “what-aboutisms” occur when there is no way to defend or spin Trump’s actions.

    And comedian John Mulaney probably gave the best response to people who try to use this tactic of deflection to avoid actually addressing the issue — when you find a trusted baby sitter to look after your child when you are away, you do not feel the need to question the motives behind every decision they make.

    But if Gary Busey showed up one day and announces that he’s taken over for your baby sitter, it isn’t hypocritical to question the reasoning of decisions he makes when it never occurred to you to question the trusted sitter when they did the same exact things — it’s warranted given Busey’s history and temperament!!!

    Trump hasn’t earned America’s trust, and he’s been pretty clear that he isn’t interested in pleasing anyone who isn’t already a Trump supporter who won’t EVER criticize anything he does. Yet you argue that we must trust the most dishonest man to ever lead our nation (a description that would typically be dismissed as rhetoric if it were not so thoroughly documented as being a factual description), the same as we would a trusted friend or we are mindless “party slaves”.

    You slam us for our reactions to Trump’s actions while conveniently avoiding addressing the the merits for, the reasoning behind, the consequences of Trump’s actions...which is exactly the purpose of the “what-aboutism” in the first place!

  115. [115] 
    Michale wrote:

    BTW, I've followed Barry Ritholz's investing philosophy for many years and it is very sound. If you are saving for a large, long-term goal (college, retirement) you could do a lot worse than understand his thinking and apply it.

    Of course you would say that..

    Because he says what you want to hear..

    :eyeroll:

  116. [116] 
    Michale wrote:

    I agree that not all of your responses are “what-aboutisms” — “what-aboutisms” occur when there is no way to defend or spin Trump’s actions.

    No, my pointing out your hypocrisy occurs when ya'all are hypocritical..

    You slam us for our reactions to Trump’s actions while conveniently avoiding addressing the the merits for, the reasoning behind, the consequences of Trump’s actions...which is exactly the purpose of the “what-aboutism” in the first place!

    Because the point ISN'T Trump's actions.. The point it YOUR hypocrisy..

    A point you can never address because it's dead on ballz accurate..

    Take the children in cages issue..

    Ya'all slam and attack President Trump for putting illegal immigrant children in cages..

    Yet, not a single person here said ANYTHING about children in cages under Odumbo??

    Why is that???

    You can't say you didn't know because some of the photos they Hysterical Left uses to attack President Trump WERE TAKEN DURING ODUMBO'S REIGN!!

    You see how it works???

    I am not commenting about children in cages.. It's a horrible thing that, unfortunately has to be done because Congress is failing in their jobs..

    So, there isn't any REASON to comment on that point because it's universally agreed that it's a bad thing..

    But what is almost equally abhorrent and equally horrible is the FACT that these things were done under Odumbo and NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU complained...

    Not a SINGLE one of you took Obama to task over putting children in cages..

    It's NOT a "whataboutism" to point out ya'all's BLATANT hypocrisy...

    It's NOT a "whataboutism" to point out the FACT that ya'all really don't care about children in cages..

    It's NOT a "whataboutism" to point out the FACT that ya'all are perfectly OK with a President who puts children in cages.. Just as long as it's a DEMOCRAT President who does it..

    It's not a "whataboutism" to point that out..

  117. [117] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    65

    Joe doesn't have to win the debate, he can become president just by keeping his cool and focus on the positive.

    I totally agree, and here's why: Democratic Party voters are overwhelmingly searching for the candidate who can beat Donald Trump, and for the most part they are infinitely aware that Joe Biden is that candidate. Therefore, Joe doesn't need to "win" any Democratic debate regardless how many there are in number.

    Joe needs to remain positive in the face of whatever is thrown at him while at the same time reminding everyone of America's history and what we've always represented to the world, explain in no uncertain terms that our democracy is under attack, how he intends to fight like hell to protect it, how that isn't going to be easy in the face of the lying machinations of the current scam in office and how he needs our help, and then ask for the vote of every Democrat, Independent, and Republican who agrees with him.

    It's Joe's to lose, and he has his work cut out for him. He simply needs to remain positive, show he's a fighter, and ensure that the day never comes where he's no longer seen as the best candidate to take out Trump. :)

  118. [118] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump hasn’t earned America’s trust, and he’s been pretty clear that he isn’t interested in pleasing anyone who isn’t already a Trump supporter who won’t EVER criticize anything he does.

    He is not interested in pleasing anyone who has PROVEN that they can't be pleased by ANYTHING...

    Neil here is a PERFECT example of this..

    Neil hysterically whined and complained and attacked President Trump because President Trump was going to respond militarily to Iran's Act Of War...

    Then, when President Trump cancelled the op because of collateral damage (a stoopid move, I thought) Neil hysterically attacked President Trump for whimping out!!

    How does one please someone... ANYONE... who has proven beyond ANY DOUBT that they won't be pleased by anything??

    Why should one even try!??

    What you don't get is people HATE President Trump.. You HATE President Trump and they and you won't be pleased by ANYTHING President Trump does.. You hysterical Trump/America haters will attack and denigrate President Trump no matter WHAT he does...

    If President Trump were to resign tomorrow, ya'all would attack him and hate on him even more...

    So, again.. WHY should President Trump even TRY to please haters like that?? Haters who will NEVER be satisfied or pleased by ANYTHING President Trump does..

    Why??

    You won't answer because you can't...

  119. [119] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nadler: Mueller hearing to air evidence of Trump wrongdoing
    https://apnews.com/5bbf167420ab4cbbb82d9b3a19658739

    Yea... That's what Nadler said about the Mueller report...

    And, according to Mueller, if it's not in the report, then it won't be heard at the hearing..

    Nadler is desperate and it shows.. :D

  120. [120] 
    Michale wrote:

    We are setting a record in new temperature records - so many are being broken at once that you'd almost think there was some sort of systemic change in the climate that is driving the earth hotter.

    And it's EASY to have record setting high temps if you go back over the historical data and manipulate and tweak the data to lower past temps..

    Which is EXACTLY what the hysterical Global Warming fanatics do...

    Bombshell study: Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Government Climate Data
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/adjustocene_scr-768x505.jpg

  121. [121] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    67

    You and I know that he doesn't have to win the debate but the press (his favourite people) will try their best to destroy him as they most always try to do, often with some success.

    The sad truth. Here's hoping the majority of the press and their penchant for the "comeback" angle is in play this go around. :)

  122. [122] 
    Michale wrote:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The House Judiciary Committee chairman said Sunday that this week’s hearing with Robert Mueller will air “very substantial evidence” of wrongdoing by President Donald Trump and make a public case for impeachment. Republicans pledged sharp questioning of the special counsel about what they see as a “one-sided” Russia investigation.

    Days before back-to-back hearings Wednesday, both sides seemed to agree that Mueller’s testimony could be pivotal in shifting public opinion on the question of “holding the president accountable.”

    “This is a president who has violated the law 6 ways from Sunday,” said the committee’s chairman, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. He argued that Mueller’s report lays out “very substantial evidence” that Trump is guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” the constitutional standard for impeachment.

    “We have to present — or let Mueller present — those facts to the American people ... because the administration must be held accountable and no president can be above the law,” Nadler said.

    Yaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn

    Nadler has said all of this before...And it turns out he was full of shit..

    And it's going to be proven that he is full of shit once again...

    As for the President not being above the law??

    Funny how, according to Dumbocrats, illegal immigrant criminals ARE above the law.. :eyeroll:

  123. [123] 
    Michale wrote:

    Idaho music event canceled amid immigration enforcement fear

    JEROME, Idaho (AP) — A music festival in southern Idaho has been canceled because organizers say they feared potential raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

    The music festival called the El Tour de Idaho de Los Inquietos was supposed to take place in Jerome on Saturday.

    Event organizers with the Colombia Event Center posted the cancellation notice on Facebook.

    BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    You can run, but you can't hide, criminals!!! :D

  124. [124] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    68

    That doesn't mean that ALL my comments serve that purpose..

    The fact is that you inadvertently hit on a fact in that comment, and Russ rightly called you on it. There's no turning back now.

    If it were, I would never post any original comment, I would just post responses to ya'all's comments..

    The other fact is that you rarely do post any original comment... just the same repetitive bullshit over and over and your spamming of the entire group with right-wingnut copied bullshit.

  125. [125] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    69

    But, given his performance in the last debate, I do believe Biden has to knock it out of the park in this debate to remain in the lead...

    Remain in the lead of what? The polls? *laughs*

    The polls for the 2020 Democratic primary don't matter in July 2019. All Joe needs to do is remain on the debate stage at the present time, and he definitely will. :)

  126. [126] 
    Michale wrote:

    It is a different dynamic from 2016. Clinton, a Washington overlord, was withered by Trump’s onslaught. For the Squad, the combat is symbiotic. There is as much personal political advantage for the radical upstarts in being perceived as the president’s chief antagonists as for the president in branding them as such. The loser in the triangulized equation is the Democratic party of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. That, for what it’s worth, is why I can’t see Biden, another relic, emerging as the nominee.

    Of the Squad members, Omar is the most vulnerable. She’d like you to believe the resentment of her is racist, misogynist, nativist, and Islamophobic: She’s a black African woman, an immigrant, and a Muslim. Interestingly, though, my friend Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a black African woman, an immigrant, and a former Muslim (who nonetheless advocates Islamic reform), is one of the most revered figures on the political right. (Incidentally, Ayaan had some excellent advice for Representative Omar this week, would that she’d take it.)
    https://tinyurl.com/y2kbt2yo

    That's the problem the Dumbocrats have.. They don't know how to deal with an enemy who plays their game better than they do... :D

  127. [127] 
    Michale wrote:

    Race and womanhood have nothing to do with Omar’s problems. Women are a majority of the population and, for years, they have been voting at higher rates than men. African-American women, such as Michelle Obama and Oprah Winfrey, are among the most popular figures not only on the political left but in the nation.

    As for Islam, this issue is not that Omar is merely a Muslim. It is that she is an Islamist fellow traveler. Despite Washington’s best efforts, Americans grasp the difference between (a) Islam as a personal religious affiliation and (b) sharia supremacism as an anti-Western political ideology. They don’t see Omar as simply a Muslim. They see someone who is hard-wired to blame the United States for jihadist terrorism. They see someone who is steeped in anti-Semitism, and indistinguishable from her Muslim Brotherhood friends in hostility to Israel’s existence.

    Finally, unlike her Squad mates, Omar has potential legal problems. There are grounds to believe she may have committed marriage fraud with her brother from 2009 through 2017. And this is no gut-wrenching story about a family struggling to shield children from the horrors of war in their native land: At the time of the marriage, Omar was a 26-year-old American citizen who had been in the U.S. for 17 years; the man alleged to be her brother was a young adult living in London, not Mogadishu.

    Meet the hero of the Dumbocrat Party.. :eyeroll:

  128. [128] 
    Michale wrote:

    We might say “Kill the umpire,” but we don’t actually want the umpire killed. We shouldn’t need to explain that because everyone understands it. The exercise of our right to scream “Kill the umpire” does not create a clear and present danger to umpires. For 60 years I’ve heard crowds say nutty things at carnival-type venues; on the other hand, I’ve also prosecuted people for inciting terrorist attacks against the United States. There is a palpable difference between provocative expression and incitement to violence, one that is not hard for sensible people to discern, even if great legal minds have struggled to articulate it precisely.

    You want to condemn rambunctious chants? Knock yourself out. But let’s not exaggerate their significance. No one is going to make Ilhan Omar stop spouting her bile as long as she refrains from urging violence. We can probably also survive a little “send her back!” without the Republic’s crumbling.

    Once again.. Hysterical Dumbocrats hype up every little nuance to be the end of the world..

    It's why Dumbocrats are losing because patriotic Americans are getting tired of all the whining and bitching and moaning and America hating coming from the Dumbocrat Party...

  129. [129] 
    Michale wrote:

    California woman, boyfriend accused of strangling her day-old baby in hospital
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-woman-boyfriend-strangling-day-old-baby-hospital

    Apparently, these are loyal and dedicated Democrats who subscribe to the Dumbocrat Party's views on abortion..

    And, for those who will say that is perverse and disgusting, I completely agree with you..

    Promoting a view of abortion that includes and justifies infatacide IS perverse and disgusting..

    But hay.. That's yer Democrat Party... :eyeroll:

  130. [130] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, of course these 2 scumbags are illegal immigrant criminals to boot..

    Yes... Children should ALWAYS be with their parents, right??? Even if their parents are a threat to the children's very lives..

    :eyeroll:

  131. [131] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    72

    Have ya noticed that, when you get your asses handed to you intellectually, you refuse to address the FACTS (because you don't have any FACTS of your own) and then try and make the whole conversation about me personally??

    Any poster who regularly spams the board with right-wingnut conspiracy theory bullshit needs never worry about "facts" or "intellectually" or otherwise handing anyone their ass; that is definitely the type poster who would be better served to worry more about his own ass and way less about everyone else's. Likewise, any poster who regularly devolves any/every political topic into a discussion that primarily consists of fake quotes and telling other posters what they're thinking should seriously consider rethinking his claim of "intellectually" besting anyone.

    The only people you can impress with invented bullshit is a gullible rube, and you're the only on this forum that matches that description. :)

  132. [132] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz Peek: Trump self-destructing? The one big bucket of ice water on Dems' smug assurance about the president

    Democrats are reaping what they have sown. What began as a trickle of cautionary advice has become a torrent, as Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo, columnists Thomas Friedman and Frank Bruni, former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, BET Founder Robert Johnson, former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz and so many others warn Democrats that their far-left lunge is likely to reelect President Trump.

    A recent piece in the New York Times analyzing the president’s polling in several important states brings home the high cost of Democratic extremism. Given Trump’s standing in the Rust Belt and other states key to his 2016 victory, the piece concluded that Trump’s "advantage in the Electoral College, relative to the national popular vote, may be even larger than it was in 2016."
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/liz-peek-trump-2020-democrats-pelosi-aoc-squad

    hehehehehehehehehehe

    Once again, Democrats are dancing to President Trump's tune.. :D

  133. [133] 
    Michale wrote:

    Race cards? Deal me out

    Just when you think our political culture can’t sink any lower, the race card gets tossed onto the table, as those who know how to play that game reach from the gutter to portray themselves as enlightened.

    It’s a tired old tactic, yet in the right hands it remains regrettably effective.

    More than 30 years ago, in one of his most inglorious moments, the late Ted Kennedy went onto the Senate floor, ostensibly to philosophically oppose Ronald Reagan’s nomination of Judge Robert Bork to the Supreme Court.

    Fair enough. They surely had philosophical differences.

    But tossing decency to the wind, Ted went for the jugular, insisting “Robert Bork’s America is a land in which blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters!”

    That was vile, detestable, shameful, but because he was the darling of the left wing — indeed, its liberal lion! — Ted got away with it when he should have been profusely apologizing.

    A decade ago, while he was still vice president, Joe Biden contemptibly tried to play that same card at a political rally in Virginia, telling blacks in the audience that Republican contender Mitt Romney “would put y’all back in chains!”

    What is it about a charismatic guy like Biden that makes him think wit or humor can be extracted from the image of a black man in chains?

    It’s what makes an eloquent airhead like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who went from tending bar in the Bronx to becoming a self-absorbed congressional rookie, look at the chaos illegal immigration is causing along our southern border and have the staggering ignorance to suggest it’s reminiscent of Nazi ovens in World War II.

    And for race to have already been tossed into the dialogue — the “squad” is comprised of “women of color,” in case you haven’t noticed — makes you want to cry out, “We’re better than this!”

    Or are we? We sure claim to be.

    But talk is cheap, especially political rhetoric.

    So if race is all a candidate has to sell, do the country a favor and shop elsewhere.
    https://outline.com/WfMmDC

    All Dumbocrats have is race politics... Which is understandable because they are Party Of The KKK...

    So it stands to reason that Democrats know the intricacies of racism..

    They are this country's original racists..

  134. [134] 
    Michale wrote:

    Do Democrats believe in open borders? By not enforcing immigration law, it looks that way.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/07/20/democrats-believe-open-borders-immigration-column/1755622001/

    There is simply NO WAY that Americans will elect an Open Borders Candidate as POTUS..

    It WON'T happen...

  135. [135] 
    Michale wrote:

    Remind me again how Dumbocrats and the Hysterical Left are all about "peace" and "love" and "tolerance"???

    How the Left Turned Words Into ‘Violence,’ and Violence Into ‘Justice’

    Responding to news that journalist Andy Ngo had been beaten by antifa protestors in Portland last month, a woman named Charlotte Clymer tweeted that “Ngo intentionally provokes people on the left to drive his content. Being attacked today on video taken by an actual journalist (because Ngo is definitely not) is the greatest thing that could have happened to his career. You know it. I know it. He knows it. We all know it. Violence is completely wrong, and I find it sad and weak to allow a sniveling weasel like Andy Ngo to get under one’s skin like this, but I’m also not going to pretend this wasn’t Ngo’s goal from the start. I mean, let’s cut the shit here. This is what they do.”

    Who is Charlotte Clymer? She is an activist who works at the Human Rights Campaign, America’s “largest LGBTQ civil rights organization,” which supposedly “envision[s] a world where LGBTQ people are ensured equality at home, at work [and] in every community.” Andy Ngo, who has written for Quillette, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post and other publications, happens to be gay. So this is where we are right now: A staffer for a human-rights organization dedicated to helping gay people is publicly cheering the beating of a gay man. This should raise an eyebrow.
    https://quillette.com/2019/07/20/how-the-left-turned-words-into-violence-and-violence-into-justice/

    I seem to have forgotten, what with all the FACTS that prove the opposite... :eyeroll:

  136. [136] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    76

    Almost to the day, President Trump's job approval rating is identical to Obama's approval rating at the same time of their respective Presidencies..

    So, APPARENTLY, the FACTS (as ya'all perceive "facts") are that President Trump is as good of a POTUS as Obama was..

    The way I perceive facts is that you're all excited about Trump being as equally shitty as you claim Obama was. Thanks for reminding me how positively lousy of a president that Donald Trump has been since day one when he lost his shit over crowd size.

  137. [137] 
    Michale wrote:

    Dems take desperate final shot at Trump with Mueller testimony

    The circus is coming to town and the carnival barkers are working up a sweat trying to spark interest. So far, ticket sales are slow.

    Robert Mueller is slated to appear in Washington’s Big Tent Wednesday when he testifies to two House committees. The former special counsel threw a wet blanket on expectations by vowing he wouldn’t say anything beyond what’s in his report, but the hype machine still promises a sensational show.
    https://nypost.com/2019/07/20/dems-take-desperate-final-shot-at-trump-with-mueller-testimony/

    I am actually glad Dumbocrats are doing this..

    Anything that showcases the Dumocrats' impotence and bullshit is a plus for the country and a plus for President Trump.

    I can predict Mueller will constantly use the phrases, "I will not speculate on that" and "That is a hypothetical that I cannot address" and/or words to that effect...

    :D

    If it even happens, it's gonna be a great shew that totally emphasizes the Dumbocrats total incompetence and America hating..

  138. [138] 
    Michale wrote:

    Mueller, who is compelled to testify under a subpoena, has made clear he does not plan to go beyond the four corners of his report, nor will he answer hypotheticals. But that won’t stop lawmakers from hitting him with a barrage of questions.

    BBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Mueller to Dumbocrats:

    "Nobody likes you... Everybody hates you.... Yer gonna lose... Smile, ya fucks..."

    :D

    I'm loving it!!!

  139. [139] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump has nothing to fear from Mueller

    The president has nothing to fear from the testimony from Robert Mueller because nothing Mueller could possibly say will change the result of the report he delivered. He conclusively found that there was no collusion with the Russians by the Trump 2016 campaign, and he did not bring any indictments for obstruction of justice against the President or even a referral.

    What Mueller left open with regard to obstruction — if at all — was conclusively dealt with by the Justice Department through the Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General who found that there was no probable cause to bring criminal charges against the president.

    Congress is not bound by the Mueller investigation or its findings. Congress on its own could bring on impeachment proceedings in the House based on the report — if there was evidence contained therein to warrant such actions. Mueller’s testimony will add nothing other than to further politicize an investigation that was supposed to be apolitical.

    Mueller reminds me of the patient who decides not to be resuscitated only to find that doctors did so against his wishes.

    At best, Mueller is a reluctant witness and at worst — for Democrats — a hostile witness. He made it clear in his press conference months ago that he would like the report to speak for itself and that he would not go beyond his own reporting.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/454052-trump-has-nothing-to-fear-from-mueller

    Mueller is a hostile witness for Dumbocrats..

    And Dumbocrats are stoopid enough to FORCE Mueller to testify against his will...

    Yea.. THAT's going to go over good for Dumbocrats.. :D

    I'm lovin it!! :D

  140. [140] 
    Michale wrote:

    Congress now runs the risk of further being seen as conducting a witch-hunt against the president by calling a witness who clearly has nothing further to add.

    If the president were a clear and present danger and had engaged in “high crimes and misdemeanors,” the Democrats would burn the midnight oil to conduct impeachment hearings instead of going off — after Mueller’s testimony — on a summer vacation.

    Clearly there is no Constitutional crisis.

    Democrats have conspired and colluded to use their official powers as a sword to impale and politically weaken a political foe rather than as a shield to protect the Constitution.

    Makes a good point.

    If President Trump is the threat that Dumbocrats claim, they would impeach..

    The fact that Dumbocrats WON'T impeach proves that this is all nothing but political kabuki theater..

    Dumbocrats don't have shit and they know it..

    The American people are fully and completely AGAINST the Dumocrats on this..

    Except, of course, for the Trump/America hating minority in this country..

  141. [141] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale

    $15 an hour is an entitlement, not a fair wage...

    I should clarify that to read that $15 p/h is thought of as an entitlement by the $15 p/h crowd..

    You should allow yourself to let it "sink in" that you don't actually know what any "crowd" is thinking because the fact is that you don't know.

    They are saying, in effect, "It doesn't matter what the work is, I am entitled to a high wage...."

    Your ignorance shines through nearly every comment. People who work a 40-hour week should be entitled to wages above "poverty level" as that term is defined by our own government. If you believe that a wage that allows a family of 4 in America to remain above poverty level without the necessity to work two jobs is a "high wage," then you're just woefully misinformed and missing the big picture.

  142. [142] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats demanded the appointment of an independent counsel to investigate the Trump 2016 campaign as well as the president himself with regard to obstruction of justice. When Mueller was appointed, Democrats heralded his appointment and gave statements of high praise and confidence. They even went so far as to say that they would accept his findings and would rely on his judgment. Then when the report came out and it did not fit their predetermined expectations, they turned on Mueller and read into the report findings that clearly were not there.

    Speaker Pelosi has no control of her caucus whether it is “the Squad” or the Trump inquisition. The very thing they accuse a president of doing Pelosi is allowing Democrats to do — that is to use their powers to destroy a political enemy.

    Mueller’s testimony will come back to haunt Democrats. He will add nothing and further expose the Democrats’ political efforts to harm the president in a re-election cycle.

    I believe Democrats overplayed a hand they should have folded with the Mueller report. It is not enough to hate a president out of office. If you want to beat him, you need to do it at the ballot box — not by impeachment and removal.

    Dumbocrats KNOW that they won't beat President Trump at the ballot box...

    Which is why they want to keep committing violence on the deceased equine that is Robert Mueller...

  143. [143] 
    Michale wrote:

    Joe Sestak: We're to blame for escalating tensions with Iran
    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/caucus/2019/07/20/joe-sestak-blame-united-states-for-iran-tensions-middle-east-terrorism-donald-trump/1783440001/

    A Dumbocrat and failed candidate blames America first and always...

    WOW.. What a shocker!!! NOT!!!!

  144. [144] 
    Michale wrote:

    A class guide to the 2020 presidential election: Joel Kotkin
    https://outline.com/SKpqpm

    Interesting analysis....

  145. [145] 
    Michale wrote:

    A Dumbocrat and failed candidate blames America first and always...

    It's no wonder the US Military is overwhelmingly Trump voters...

  146. [146] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    103

    Which is not surprising because saying you can FORCE a 100% pay increase to ALL businesses and expect that here won't be repercussions is ALSO utterly ridiculous..

    Who said that? The fact is, your ridiculous suggestion that a 100% pay raise would be required of "ALL businesses" is what is really ridiculous, and here's why:

    * There are 29 states and the District of Columbia who already have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage.

    * The minimum wage is indexed for inflation in 18 states and the District of Columbia and is automatically adjusted each year for increase in the cost of living.

    It's the difference between living in a fantasy world (Dumbocrats) and living in reality (rest of the people who actually have more than 2 brain cells to rub together)....

    The reality is that you were stating a fact when you revealed that you weren't a good businessman, and you were equally correct when you stated you knew nothing about economics. The last thing you should do is lecture people who know what they're talking about when you've already proven and admitted that you don't.

  147. [147] 
    Michale wrote:

    Is the Royal Navy too small to deal with Iranian threat?
    https://www.theweek.co.uk/102362/is-the-royal-navy-too-small-to-deal-with-iranian-threat

    "Ouch!! And the ref takes a point away!!"

    :D

  148. [148] 
    Michale wrote:

    Wealthy New Yorkers are ditching city’s high taxes for Miami
    https://nypost.com/2019/07/21/wealthy-new-yorkers-are-ditching-citys-high-taxes-for-miami/

    Everybody hates New York!! :D

  149. [149] 
    Kick wrote:

    neilm
    107

    In another amusing side note, without California's job gains Trump's boasts about all the new jobs he has created goes up in smoke :)

    I know, right!?

    The irony is delicious.

    Word for word what I was thinking.

    I wonder if he'd understand anyway if anybody around him was brave enough to tell him.

    Hell no. Trump was bragging the other day about America being the greatest economy on Earth. It would blow completely past him that California is the engine that puts us there. In point of fact, if California were its own nation, it would generally have around the fifth largest economy in the world... give or take and depending on the year's data.

    The San Francisco Bay Area alone would rank 19th (give or take) in the world when ranked yearly against national economies. The $74,815 GDP per capita in the Bay Area is more than London and Singapore. It's that pesky $15 minimum wage and free college they're offering now that must be "holding them back." ;)

  150. [150] 
    Michale wrote:

    Got that? This Nobel Peace Prize winner just told Trump her entire family had been slaughtered, and Trump wasn't even paying attention.

    You mean, like when Odumbo rushed thru a eulogy for a brutally murdered by terrorists so he could go play golf??

    You mean like that??

  151. [151] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    114

    Great post.

    And comedian John Mulaney probably gave the best response to people who try to use this tactic of deflection to avoid actually addressing the issue — when you find a trusted baby sitter to look after your child when you are away, you do not feel the need to question the motives behind every decision they make.

    John Mulaney also nails Trump without ever having to use his name in his bit: "There's a horse in the hospital" in Kid Gorgeous. :)

  152. [152] 
    Michale wrote:

    Byron York: Democrats think they've got a slam-dunk obstruction case against Trump. They don't.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/byron-york-democrats-think-theyve-got-a-slam-dunk-obstruction-case-against-trump-they-dont

    Dumbocrats.. Their own worst enemy...

  153. [153] 
    Michale wrote:

    Mueller's testimony will be divided between the Judiciary Committee and the House Intelligence Committee. Judiciary will focus on Volume II of the report, which covered allegations of obstruction, and Intelligence will pursue Volume I, on conspiracy and coordination.

    Democrats on the Intel committee will have the harder job, given the failure to establish conspiracy or coordination. So it's likely most eyes will be focused on Judiciary. Many Democrats, and many in the press, believe the Mueller report proved the president obstructed justice. The report listed a number of episodes of possible obstruction, and according to press reports, Democratic aides recently told reporters the Judiciary Committee will focus on the top five.

    President Trump was totally and utterly exonerated on collusion with Russia...

    Dumbocrats are making a laughable attempt to re-write history, reality and the facts..

  154. [154] 
    Michale wrote:

    It could be that the Mueller hearing, rather than showcasing a slam-dunk case against the president on obstruction of justice, will highlight how tenuous, subject to interpretation, and difficult to prove Mueller's allegations really are.

    Yep.. That's exactly what is going to happen..

    Democrats will PROVE beyond any doubt (even though it's already been proven) that there is not 'there' there..

    NO FACTS to support collusion... NO FACTS to support conspiracy... NO FACTS to support coordination...

    NO FACTS to support **ANY** if the bullshit claims Dumbocrats are making..

    Dumbocrats simply have **NO FACTS**....

  155. [155] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    116

    No, my pointing out your hypocrisy occurs when ya'all are hypocritical..

    I believe Russ's point is that your incessant whining about the people on this board and your opinion regarding other posters isn't discussing politics, it's discussing us.

    Because the point ISN'T Trump's actions.. The point it YOUR hypocrisy..

    You're proving Russ's point that you're just here to troll. The point is that you get your jollies trolling the people on this board with your bullshit versus the actual discussion of political issues. Trump is a political issue, while none of the posters on this board are.

  156. [156] 
    Michale wrote:

    The first thing to notice about the Democrats' choice of evidence is what is not included. If news reports are correct, the firing of FBI director James Comey, once treated in media discussions as Exhibit A in the case for obstruction, is not among the episodes Democrats will highlight. Nor are the conversations between Trump and Comey that Comey wrote up in his famous memos, including a talk in which Trump allegedly asked Comey to go easy on Michael Flynn -- another episode that was routinely discussed in the media as solid evidence of obstruction. Nor are the president's efforts to spin the public story of the June 9, 2016 Trump Tower meeting -- yet another incident often characterized as obstruction.

    Basically Democrats have just thrown pile of shit after pile of shit on the wall and NONE of it has stuck..

    "This was supposed to be very simple, but you know if you give food to monkeys, they just throw their shit at each other. "
    -Pagan Min

    Everything that was "proof positive" of obstruction, Dumbocrats just ignore now..

    Because NONE of it will work...

    There was no crime.. This is definitively factual...

  157. [157] 
    Michale wrote:

    Also important to remember is that the Muller investigation was not actually obstructed by the president, and neither was the FBI Trump-Russia investigation that preceded it. In the report, Mueller often argued that this or that act -- say, firing Mueller -- could have obstructed the investigation, had it actually occurred. But it did not. So the Democrats' accusations of obstruction will in fact be accusations of attempted obstruction.

    THAT is what Dumbocrats are hanging their hats on..

    "OH MY GODS!!! PRESIDENT TRUMP THOUGHT ABOUT OBSTRUCTING!!!!"

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Dumbocrats.... Putting the "DUMB" in for years.. :D

  158. [158] 
    Michale wrote:

    Finally, it is important to recall that Mueller could never establish that the underlying crime he was assigned to investigate -- conspiracy or coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia -- actually took place. So in Wednesday's hearing, Democrats will be showcase an investigation that was not obstructed into a crime that investigators could not establish actually happened.

    Get that???

    Mueller totally exonerated President Trump on collusion/conspiracy with the Russians.

    So now Dumbocrats will try and "prove" that President Trump THOUGHT ABOUT obstructing but never really did THOUGHT about obstructing the investigation of a crime that never actually occurred..

    In short.. Democrats are prosecuting THOUGHT crimes....

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHA

    President Trump simply could NOT make Dumbocrats look more stoopid than Dumbocrats are doing it to themselves.. :D

    Once again President Trump proves that he rules... And Dumbocrats drool... :D

  159. [159] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK, people.. We're about halfway thru... :D

  160. [160] 
    Kick wrote:

    Stop the right-wingnut plagiarism in the forum, please.

  161. [161] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    159

    OK, people.. We're about halfway thru... :D

    Knock yourself out, troll... we'll scroll through. :D

  162. [162] 
    Michale wrote:

    And one more thing: The Mueller report includes a lengthy section headlined "Legal Defenses To The Application Of Obstruction-Of-Justice Statutes To The President." The section includes compelling arguments against the report's obstruction allegations. But the arguments are legal ones, some quite complicated, and it is important to keep in mind that the Judiciary Committee inquiry is not a legal proceeding, but a political one. The lawmakers are not prosecutors but rather members of Congress, some of whom are seeking to impeach the president. It is an entirely political process, and whether or not to impeach will be a political decision. So a lot of the legal analysis that dominates cable TV coverage won't really apply; the president's defenders can make commonsense defenses that appeal to the vast majority of Americans -- 324 million or so -- who are not lawyers.

    OK, to explain to the ones who DON'T have more than 2 brain-cells to rub together (which is most everyone here but a few) what this means is that, in addition to the no-shit-duh defenses that President Trump could make (like thought crimes are not actually crimes) there are many MANY legal defenses that would successfully defend President Trump against the obstruction charges within the Mueller report..

    In other words (for the REALLY stoopid people here (you know who you are..)) **MUELLER HIMSELF** acknowledges that President Trump would mount a successful legal defense against Obstruction...

    And Dumbocrats REALLY want to showcase their stoopidity????

    "GOOD CALL!!!"
    -Jim Carrey, LIAR LIAR

  163. [163] 
    Michale wrote:

    There was not a third phone call from Trump; the president did not follow up on whatever he told McGahn. McGahn did not resign. Rosenstein was not called. Mueller did not resign. The investigation continued unimpeded.

    The investigation continued unimpeded...

    There was no obstruction.. NONE.. ZERO... ZILCH... NADA...

  164. [164] 
    Michale wrote:

    But of course the House Judiciary Committee is not a court of law. While Democrats will argue that Trump is guilty of obstruction in the McGahn-Mueller matter, Republicans will have substantial defenses: The firing never happened. The investigation was not obstructed. Trump could have been venting in the phone calls (something he did every day), and perhaps there was some misunderstanding between the president and McGahn. It is not unusual for Donald Trump to say one thing and a person around him to hear another. Given that Mueller relied so heavily on McGahn's account, such a misunderstanding, if it occurred, could become the centerpiece of the allegation. And, of course, there was no underlying crime of conspiracy or coordination, which is what the investigation was supposed to be about.

    Given that, it seems hard to believe that, even with a Mueller appearance, Democrats will be able to convince anyone beyond the people who already believe Trump is guilty of obstruction. Others may be baffled by the sheer complexity of the case. If Democrats want to turn the Mueller report into a movie, it will be very complicated movie.

    Dumbocrats are shooting themselves in the foot by dragging this out..

    They ONLY thing it will serve is to show the Dumbocrats are more interesting in removing the freely, fairly, legally and duly elected President Of The United States..

    And that will push Independents, NPAs and Trump voters, who Dumbocrats MUST HAVE to win in 2020, firmly into President Trump's camp...

  165. [165] 
    Michale wrote:

    The problem with the Lewandowski charge, which Democrats apparently believe is among the strongest against the president, is that it is murky. It is simply not clear what the president meant when he dictated the message he wanted Lewandowski to give to Sessions about Mueller. In the political forum of a House Judiciary Committee meeting, Republicans will probably be able to raise so many questions about the episode that the whole thing seems indecipherable.

    Again, Dumbocrats are pushing a "thought" crime... :D

    Dumbocrats will LOSE.. :D

  166. [166] 
    Michale wrote:

    On the testimony about Trump Tower Moscow, Mueller concluded that "the evidence available to us does not establish that the president directed or aided Cohen's false testimony." On the question of calling Cohen a "rat" -- many observers noted that Trump's language evoked images of mobsters -- Mueller wrote that the evidence "could support an inference that the president used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter the provision of information or undermining Cohen's credibility once Cohen began cooperating."

    Possibly. Anyone ready Mueller's analysis of the Manafort and Cohen statements will be struck by how much sheer guesswork went into Mueller's speculation about Trump's motives. At Wednesday's hearing, Republicans will likely argue that anyone, including a president, has the right to point out unfair treatment. In a larger sense, they will argue that prosecutors can be overly sensitive to criticism, and that anyone, including a president, has a right to criticize a prosecution without facing prosecution for doing so. As with the other issues, the debate will likely bounce back and forth between legal argument and commonsense arguments.

    Mueller was reading tea leaves.. Any of the issues he espoused on had a whole range of possibilities...

    Mueller was putting forth the ones most likely to damage President Trump, instead of the ones that was supported by the most evidence...

  167. [167] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Mueller hearing on obstruction is a kind of second choice for Democrats. Before the Mueller report was released, many firmly believed it would prove the existence of conspiracy or coordination, more commonly known as collusion. When that did not happen, Democrats and their allies in the media pivoted to the obstruction issue, with some embracing obstruction as the grounds on which Trump could be removed from office.

    Their strategy did not exactly ignite public excitement. Now, Democrats seek to make a movie of Mueller's findings to win public attention. But some movies bomb. Without the sort of solid, incontrovertible evidence they can sell to the public, Democrats face an uphill climb, no matter how much attention the Mueller hearing attracts on Wednesday.

    And we come full circle... Democrats are simply showcasing their stoopidity and their incompetence..

    In their hysterical and insane desire to get blood from a stone, Democrats are demanding another PUBLIC crack at the stone to see if there is even a minute iota of blood they can get from it..

    NOT.... GONNA.... HAPPEN..... :D

    The only thing Democrats will do is showcase their hate of President Trump....

    And push Independents and NPAs firmly into President Trump's camp...

    :D

  168. [168] 
    Michale wrote:

    Top Dem Think Tank Warns Party: You’re Losing Immigration Messaging War to Trump

    The Democratic Party’s decision to cede the “rule of law” creates “the false dichotomy of America as either a nation of immigrants or a nation of laws,” a new report argues.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/center-for-american-progress-warns-dems-trump-is-winning-the-immigration-messaging-war?ref=home

    Hell, even Democrats warn Democrats that their fraking things up.... :D

  169. [169] 
    Michale wrote:

    Faced with combating the Trump administration’s hardline immigration agenda in the arena of public opinion, Democrats have largely pointed to reports of horrific detention conditions, spiking in-custody deaths of undocumented immigrants, and President Donald Trump’s increasingly brazen attempts to undermine the legal immigration system, hoping to counter the White House’s border message by emphasizing that such policies and tactics don’t reflect America’s immigrant tradition.

    But a new report from an influential liberal think tank, provided to The Daily Beast, posits that the party’s decision to cede the “rule of law” ground to Republicans creates “the false dichotomy of America as either a nation of immigrants or a nation of laws”—making the party and its candidates appear soft on enforcement, and potentially weakening future attempts for humanitarian-focused immigration reform.

    In doing so, writes Tom Jawetz, vice president of immigration policy at the Center for American Progress, supporters of humane immigration policy “have ceded powerful rhetorical ground to immigration restrictionists, who are happy to masquerade as the sole defenders of America as a nation of laws.”

    Allow me to translate for those of weaker intellect and brain power..

    Democrats like to tout and spout about the "rule of law"...

    But they are conceding that it's the Republicans and those who support a secure border who are the Party of the Rule Of Law...

    Democrats are making their case that the are the ABOVE THE LAW Party... :D

  170. [170] 
    Michale wrote:

    How to Alienate Voters and Lose Elections

    The Democrats are determined to repeat the mistakes of 2016.
    https://spectator.org/how-to-alienate-voters-and-lose-elections/

    Yep... Yep... Yep...

    The Democrat Party is taking a HUGE leap to the Left..

    SOMEHOW, they think that such a leap will endear them to the Independents, NPAs and Trump voters that Democrats MUST woo to win in 2020...

    They are in error...

  171. [171] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Democrats have spent well over two years asking themselves what they did wrong in the last presidential election and how to avoid those mistakes in 2020. But they seem to suffer from a collective learning disability that prevents them from absorbing the obvious: Their party will lose again if they continue to insult the voters by insisting that the president they elected isn’t worthy of the office and that their country was founded on oppression and remains rife with racism, cruelty, and injustice. Yet this false and dispiriting vision seems once again to have become the Democratic Party line.

    The lesson the Democrats seem to have learned from 2016 isn’t that they failed to earn the people’s votes, but rather that the electorate didn’t deserve the benign leadership offered by their standard-bearer, Hillary Clinton. Or, as she herself put it, “I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward. And his whole campaign, ‘Make America Great Again,’ was looking backwards.” One would think that, after two years of such self-flattering rationalization, the Democrats would wake up to reality and stop denigrating the people whose votes they must have to win elections.

    Exactly.. Rather than face the reality that they can't win elections, Democrats put forth the belief that the American people didn't DESERVE the awesome that was Hillary Clinton..

    That, coupled with the OTHER delusion that Trump voters are racist and sexist assholes, really emphasis the fantasy world they live in..

    Democrats think that all they have to do is energize their base and they will win.. That explains the huge Left ward jaunt...

    What Democrats can't admit is that, even if their entire base turns out, they will STILL lose... Because 2/3rds of the electorate is made up of Independents, NPAs and Trump voters...

    And Democrats are ACTIVELY attacking those blocs of voters...

    It's a recipe for a Trump landslide victory in 2020...

  172. [172] 
    Michale wrote:

    Never mind that “slavery has been the reality in this country before” only because the Democrats refused to give up “the peculiar institution,” preferring to fight a bloody civil war rather than simply doing what they knew was the right thing. Forget the inconvenient fact that it was the Republicans who forced through the 13th Amendment, permanently freeing the slaves from Democratic bondage. And we’ll pass lightly over the fact that the party of slavery also denied women the right to vote from 1878 to 1919, when the GOP overcame vehement Democrat resistance to the 19th Amendment.

    It's very illuminating..

    Through-out the US History, it's been DEMOCRATS who are the Party of Slavery, the Party of the KKK, the Party of Gender Discrimination..

    Throughout ALL those dark times, it was the DEMOCRAT PARTY who was the purveyor of the darkness and it was the REPUBLICAN PARTY who were the bringers of light..

    Funny how ya'all simply cannot acknowledge these facts...

  173. [173] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Democrats would rather stick to the “deplorables” theme, to which they have now added the “America is an oppressor” talking point. Disparaging the nation as a whole is a favorite theme of the Democratic presidential candidates who want to evict Donald Trump from the White House. Pete Buttigieg, for example, recently unveiled the “bash America” theme at a South Carolina campaign rally. Referring to Trump’s campaign slogan, “Make America Great Again,” he handed down the following verdict: “That past that he is promising to return us to was never as great as advertised.”

    Yep... The HATE AMERICA Party is in full swing...

  174. [174] 
    Michale wrote:

    Com'on people!!!

    Can't ANYONE keep up with me??? :D

    hehehehehehehe

  175. [175] 
    Michale wrote:

    In a similar comment about the United States last year, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo opined, “It was never that great.” This might fly in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by more than 2 to 1, but it will be lethal to any national presidential candidate. This isn’t because Americans believe the country is, or ever was, perfect. But a presidential candidate is similar to a job applicant whom the voters are interviewing for a position involving certain specific tasks — like lowering taxes and reducing federal regulations.

    “Mayor Pete” is like an applicant for an important position at a large employer who tells the interviewers that he isn’t all that impressed by the past performance of their organization. This observation would be considered presumptuous coming from any candidate, particularly one with Pete Buttigieg’s résumé. He’s asking for a hell of a promotion, after all. He’s currently employed as the mayor of an Indiana town boasting a population of 102,000 people. And his record there is not all it could be. He wants to be the chief executive of a nation of 340 million. A little humility might be in order.

    Humility!??? From a DUMBOCRAT!!!!

    Shirley, you jest...

    Dumbocrat Party.. Hate America All The TimE..

    The HAATTE Party...

    Works for me.. :D

    The GOP is the MAGA/KAG PARTY And the Dumbocrats are the HAATTE Party.... :D

    THAT one is definitely a keeper.. :D

  176. [176] 
    Michale wrote:

    Among the Democrats running for president, however, humility seems to be in rather short supply. They, like all members of their party, routinely insult the people who will decide whether they get the job or not. Nor are they reticent about criticizing the nation they want to run. Moreover, many are making wild promises about the things they will accomplish if given the job, yet they remain oddly unable to answer detailed questions regarding the implementation of these plans. Even worse, they seem utterly incapable of providing any serious cost estimates for their grandiose designs.

    Cost estimates?? They'll just tax the rich and middle class more...

    Cost Estimates?? They don't need no stinkin' cost estimates... :D

  177. [177] 
    Michale wrote:

    In addition to of all these issues, the Democrats seem to be under the impression that it is the responsibility of the electorate to live up to their expectations rather than the reverse. Like Hillary Clinton, they seem to believe they would be doing the country a favor by taking over. Finally, they are all making the worst mistake any job applicant can make: trashing the guy who currently holds the job, a guy with a lot of solid accomplishments and loyal supporters. All of this means that the Democrats have not yet absorbed the lessons of 2016, and this disqualifies them as a governing party.

    In spades...

    Let's face reality, people..

    There is SIMPLY NO WAY... That an Open Borders/Free HealthCare For Illegals/Eliminate Private HealthCare candidate is going to be elected President Of The United States...

    SIMPLY.... NO..... WAY......

    Given the promises that each Dim candidate has made during the primaries, this wisdom basically shows that each candidate will lose even if they make it to the General...

    About the ONLY possible avenue open to the Dim candidate is to radically flip-flop in the general and convince the electorate that they were "just kidding" when they said there were for Open Borders...

    That they were "just joking" when they said they wanted to give free full healthcare to illegal immigrants..

    That they didn't "really mean" they were going to kick every American off their health plans that they like and force them to take a government run health care...

    And THAT flip-flop will do even MORE damage to the Dim candidate than they original promise they made...

    Now matter HOW you shake it out, a Far Left Dim candidate simply can't win... And there is NO WAY a far Left candidate can pivot fast enough or far enough to appeal to Independents, NPAs and Trump voters..

    It's really THAT simple...

  178. [178] 
    Michale wrote:

    Comey's Under DoJ Scrutiny for Leading Probe While Misleading Trump
    July 22, 2019

    It is one of the most enduring and consequential mysteries of the Trump-Russia investigation: Why did former FBI Director James Comey refuse to say publicly what he was telling President Trump in private -- that Trump was not the target of an ongoing probe?

    That refusal ignited a chain of events that has consumed Washington for more than two years – including Comey’s firing by Trump, the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and ongoing claims that Trump obstructed justice.

    Now an answer is emerging. Sources tell RealClearInvestigations that Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz will soon file a report with evidence indicating that Comey was misleading the president. Even as he repeatedly assured Trump that he was not a target, the former director was secretly trying to build a conspiracy case against the president, while at times acting as an investigative agent.

    Two U.S. officials briefed on the inspector general’s investigation of possible FBI misconduct said Comey was essentially “running a covert operation against” the president, starting with a private “defensive briefing” he gave Trump just weeks before his inauguration. They said Horowitz has examined high-level FBI text messages and other communications indicating Comey was actually conducting a “counterintelligence assessment” of Trump during that January 2017 meeting in New York.
    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/22/comey_under_scrutiny_for_own_inquiry_and_misleading_trump_119584.html

    Looks like Comey is not the altar-boy that Dumbocrats painted him out to be..

    But, then again, we already knew that when he confessed to leaking confidential information..

  179. [179] 
    Michale wrote:

    200 here we come!!!! :D

  180. [180] 
    Michale wrote:

    Although Comey took many actions on his own, he was not working in isolation. One focus of Horowitz’s inquiry is the private Jan. 6, 2017, briefing Comey gave the president-elect in New York about material in the Democratic-commissioned dossier compiled by ex-British intelligence officer Christopher Steele. Reports of that meeting were used days later by BuzzFeed, CNN and other outlets as a news hook for reporting on the dossier’s lascivious and unsubstantiated claims.

    Comey’s meeting with Trump took place one day after the FBI director met in the Oval Office with President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden to discuss how to brief Trump — a meeting attended by National Security Adviser Susan Rice, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and National Intelligence Director James Clapper, who would soon go to work for CNN.

    In his recently published memoir, “A Higher Loyalty,” Comey denied having "a counterintelligence case file open on [Trump],” though he qualified the denial by adding this was true only in the “literal” sense.

    Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy, who has written extensively on the Trump-Russia probe as a columnist for National Review, said that just because the president’s name was not put on a file or a surveillance warrant does not mean the Comey FBI was not investigating him. “They were hoping to surveil him incidentally, and they were trying to make a case on him,” McCarthy said. “The real reason Comey did not want to repeat publicly the assurances he made to Trump privately is that these assurances were misleading. The FBI strung Trump along, telling him he was not a suspect while structuring the investigation in accordance with the reality that Trump was the main subject."

    So, now we know that Odumbo and Vice President Joe Biden were briefed on the illegal FBI investigation of the opposing Party candidate for POTUS...

    *BUSTED*!!!!!!

    Horowitz's report is going to be AWESOME!!!! :D

    Where Mueller's report had absolutely NO SMOKING GUNS, the Horowitz report will be FILLED with them!!! :D

  181. [181] 
    Michale wrote:

    But, former FBI counterintelligence agent and lawyer Mark Wauck said, the FBI lacked legal grounds to treat Trump as a suspect. “They had no probable cause against Trump himself for ‘collusion’ or espionage,” he said. “They were scrambling to come up with anything to hang a hat on, but had found nothing.”

    Yep... NOTHING.. ZERO.... ZILCH.... NADA....

    And yet Odumbo's Secret Police apparatchiks went ahead with the investigation, even thought there was NOTHING to support it..

    Once again.... ***BUSTED***

  182. [182] 
    Michale wrote:

    What remains unclear is why Comey would take such extraordinary steps against a sitting president. The Mueller report concluded there was no basis for the Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy theories. Comey himself was an early skeptic of the Steele dossier -- the opposition research memos paid for by Hillary Clinton’s campaign that were the road map of collusion theories – which he dismissed as “salacious and unverified.”

    Republicans including House Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Devin Nunes believe that Comey, like his top counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok, was attempting to “stop” the Trump presidency for political reasons.

    “You have the culmination of the ultimate spying, where you have the FBI director spying on the president, taking notes [and] illegally leaking those notes of classified information” to anti-Trump media, Nunes said in a recent interview. His panel is one of two House committees scheduled to hear testimony from Mueller on Wednesday.

    Basically, what we had was an illegal Democrat Cabal trying to prevent the free, fair and legal election of a President they simply did not like..

    Once THAT plan failed, once their "insurance policy" crashed and burned, this illegal Democrat cabal worked to overthrow the will of the people.. The illegal Democrat cabal worked to remove a fairly, freely, legally and duly elected President Of The United States..

    I am glad they failed.. Because the result would have been a real shooting war..

    And since the illegal Democrat Cabal side has a well-documented aversion to guns, it would have been a slaughter...

    You people should be thankful that Mueller totally exonerated President Trump when it came to collusion/conspiracy with Russians..

  183. [183] 
    Michale wrote:

    The IG’s report, which is expected to be released in early September, will shine new light on the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation, given that Horowitz and his team have examined more than 1 million records and conducted more than 100 interviews, including sit-downs with Comey and other current and former FBI and Justice Department personnel. The period covering Comey’s activities is believed to run from early January 2017 to early May 2017, when Comey was fired and his deputy Andrew McCabe, as the acting FBI director, formally opened full counterintelligence and obstruction investigations of the president.

    Although Horowitz has focused primarily on whether the FBI misled the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in its applications for surveillance warrants against former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, he has pursued other related angles, including whether Comey personally misled the president and leaked classified FBI information about him, the officials said.

    Smoking guns aplenty... :D

    I am bummed we have to wait til Sep for the report.. I had thought it would be out by now.. Oh well... It will just give more time to the run-up of the release to pound the shit out of Democrats and Trump/America haters.. :D

  184. [184] 
    Michale wrote:

    Just a few days later, on May 9, Trump unceremoniously fired the FBI director. In response, Comey’s deputy McCabe ordered agents to formally open investigative files on Trump for espionage and obstruction of justice. “It’s pretty clear that Comey’s firing is what prompted McCabe’s fury," former federal prosecutor and independent counsel Solomon L. Wisenberg said.

    McCabe’s former aide Page admitted in her closed-door congressional interview that, at the time her boss ordered the investigations, they couldn't connect Trump to the Russia conspiracy, and that “it still existed in the scope of possibility that there would be literally nothing” there. In fact, her lead partner on the case, Peter Strzok, confessed in a text: “My gut sense and concern is there’s no big there, there.”

    Once again.. NO 'there' there.. It was a big nothing-burger... And the illegal Democrat cabal acknowledged this in private at the beginning..

    The illegal Democrat cabal figured they could use this as an excuse to dig deep into President Trumps past..

    And they were SURE that they would find SOMETHING to take down the President..

    But the illegal Democrat cabal did not find ANYTHING to hang their hats on..

    A FACT that Mueller acknowledged in his report..

  185. [185] 
    Michale wrote:

    Knowledgeable sources inside the Trump White House say Comey carved out an extraordinary new position for Ferrante, which allowed him to remain on reserve status at the FBI while working in the White House as a cybersecurity adviser.

    “In an unprecedented action, Comey created a new FBI reserve position for Ferrante, enabling him to have an ongoing relationship with the agency, retaining his clearances and enabling him to come back in [to bureau headquarters],” said a former National Security Council official who requested anonymity.

    “Between the election and April 2017, when Ferrante finally left the White House, the Trump NSC division supervisor was not allowed to get rid of Ferrante,” he added, "and Ferrante continued working — in direct conflict with the no-contact policy between the White House and the Department of Justice.”

    Through a spokeswoman at FTI Consulting, which maintains the BuzzFeed contract, Ferrante declined to comment.

    Another FBI official, Jordan Rae Kelly, who worked closely with Mueller when he headed the bureau, replaced Ferrante upon his White House exit (though she signed security logs for him to continue entering the White House as a visitor while he was working for BuzzFeed). Kelly left the White House last year and joined Ferrante at FTI Consulting.

    Amazing how many members of the illegal Democrat cabal found lucrative employment with Trump/America hating media outlets... :eyeroll:

  186. [186] 
    Michale wrote:

    In his memoir, Comey said he flew to New York on Jan. 6, 2017, to give the president-elect a private “defensive briefing” — to "tell him what Russia had done to try to help elect him.”

    But there was more to it than that, in light of Comey’s meeting in the Oval Office the day before with Obama, Biden and the other Cabinet officials. Their plan to brief Trump, which Obama approved, included disclosing allegations from the dossier about the president-elect.

    As the top law enforcement official in the room, Comey was chosen to confront Trump with "the material" that accused him of being compromised by Russia and engaging in a criminal conspiracy with Moscow to hack the election. The morning before flying to New York, Comey met at FBI headquarters with a group of counterespionage officials and agents who were read in on the plan — code-named the “sensitive matter team” — for an update on the allegations against Trump and the overall Russia investigation.

    Once again.. Odumbo KNEW and APPROVED the plan to illegally investigate the freely, fairly, legally and duly elected President Of The United States in a vain attempt to find something... ANYTHING to subvert the will of the people..

    When Horowitz releases his report, Odumbo's legacy will be in tatters..

    Odumbo will be revealed to be the America hating weasel opportunist patriotic Americans know him to be...

  187. [187] 
    Michale wrote:

    Comey limited his briefing to the lurid rumor about prostitutes in a Moscow hotel, while omitting the fact that he had signed a wiretap warrant to eavesdrop on one of Trump’s campaign advisers based on other parts of the dossier.

    Comey also failed to tell the president-elect that Flynn was under investigation along with Carter Page. In other words, Comey left the president in the dark on the most substantive assertions of the dossier.

    The FBI was investigating Trump’s campaign “in hope of making a case on him,” McCarthy said. “That is why Comey told Trump only about the salacious allegation involving prostitutes in a Moscow hotel; he did not tell the president-elect either that the main thrust of the dossier was Trump’s purported espionage conspiracy with the Kremlin, nor that the FBI had gone to the [FISA court] to get surveillance warrants based on the dossier.”

    “Make no mistake,” McCarthy added, “the investigation was always about Donald Trump, from Day One."

    Yep... Even while the campaign was going on, Candidate Trump was illegally investigated in hopes of creating an "insurance policy" that could be used if the unthinkable happened.. If Trump actually WON the election.....

    The fact that their "policy" failed after Trump was elected simply proves how utterly and completely stoopid and incompetent these Trump/America haters are...

  188. [188] 
    Michale wrote:

    Comey also withheld the facts that the dossier was financed by the Hillary Clinton campaign (Comey had known this since October 2016, if not earlier), that it was compiled by a private foreign contractor, and that it was not a product of the U.S. government. The omissions led Trump to believe the contents of the dossier came from U.S. intelligence and were taken seriously by serious people in the government. If he had known otherwise, he could have easily dismissed the information as biased and unreliable — and questioned why Comey was even bothering to conduct such a briefing.

    Seems kinda important for Comey to be honest and tell President Elect Trump that the intelligence was nothing but opposition research from the losing campaign.

    Of course, Comey lied.. And lied.. And lied...

    But ya'all don't mind people who lie..

    As long as they lie to the RIGHT people... :eyeroll:

  189. [189] 
    Michale wrote:

    “We are not investigating you, sir,” Comey told Trump, an assurance that “seemed to quiet him,” the former director remarked in his book.

    That statement seems undercut by the fact that Comey typed up his notes on his laptop in his government vehicle less than five minutes after he walked out of Trump Tower, according to a heavily redacted Jan. 7, 2017, email to his top aides. Comey self-classified the notes at the “SECRET” level.

    “I executed the session exactly as planned,” Comey reported back to his “sensitive matter team.”

    Comey lied throughout...

    Funny how ya'all LOVE Comey, even though he lied throughout..

    Hell, ya'all love Comey BECAUSE he lied.... :eyeroll:

    Ironic..

  190. [190] 
    Michale wrote:

    Next up...

    Hillary Clinton, the Democrat 2020 Presidential Candidate..

    Stay tuned.. :D

  191. [191] 
    neilm wrote:

    I wonder if even Michale reads Michale's comments or if he just cut/pastes from some RWNJ site and adds bold here and there for effect?

  192. [192] 
    Michale wrote:

    Episode 600 Scott Adams: Let’s Discuss a Tweet Because Everything Else Seems to be Fine
    7/17/2019 10:40:02 AM
    Topics:

    Trash talk tweets and trash talk outrage

    CNN “Opinions” labeled as “Analysis”…why?

    Conservatives have consistent rules, respect laws and constitution

    We’re born with a genetic propensity to be liberal or conservative

    “Woke” means there are good people and bigots, eliminate bigots“Enlightened” means you understand…everyone is a bigot

    Woke is broke
    https://www.scottadamsfans.com/content/blog.aspx?id=329#disqus_thread

    Where I spend my down time.. :D

  193. [193] 
    Michale wrote:

    I wonder if even Michale reads Michale's comments or if he just cut/pastes from some RWNJ site and adds bold here and there for effect?

    I wonder if Neil would mind if I did some redecorating in the place I own in his head..

    It's really drab and dismal and depressing here....

  194. [194] 
    Michale wrote:

    if he just cut/pastes from some RWNJ site and adds bold here and there for effect?

    Ontario's $15 Minimum Wage 'Devastating' To Businesses, Groups Say
    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/05/30/ontario-15-minimum-wage_n_16882556.html

    Really???

    HuffingtonPost is a "Right Wing Nut Job" site???

    Only in your feeble ass-kicked addled hunk of muscle you call a brain... :D

    Face reality, neil... I own you.. :D

  195. [195] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bill Clinton was walking along the beach when he stumbled upon a Genie's lamp. He picked it up and rubbed it and lo-and-behold, a Genie appeared. Bill was amazed and asked if he got three wishes.

    The Genie said, "Nope...Due to inflation, constant downswing, low wages in third world countries, and fierce global competition, I can only grant you one wish. So...What'll it be?"

    Bill didn't hesitate. He said, "I want to be remembered for bringing peace to the Middle East, instead of that other stuff with Monica, and Jennifer, and the rest of those women. See this map? I want these countries to stop fighting with each other."

    The Genie looked at the map of the Middle East and exclaimed, "Jeez, Fella! These people have been at war for thousands of years. I'm good, but not THAT good. I don't think it can be done. Make another wish."

    Bill thought for a minute and said, "You know, people really don't like my wife. Even though she got elected, they call her a carpetbagger. They think she's mean, ugly, and pushes me around. I wish for her to be the most beautiful woman in the world and I want everybody to like her. That's what I want."

    The Genie let out a long sigh and said, "Lemme see that map again."

    hehehehehehehehehehehehehe

  196. [196] 
    Michale wrote:

    Thanx to the illustrious Kevmo, I have a new label..

    Illegal immigrant criminals is a mouthful but it conveys PERFECTLY...

    From now on, I'll shorten it to crimmigrants

    You have IMMIGRANTS and you have CRIMMIGRANTS..

    IMMIGRANTS.... Good

    CRIMMIGRANTS.... Bad

  197. [197] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Deputy Sheriff Benjamin Nimtz
    Broward County Sheriff's Office, Florida
    End of Watch: Sunday, July 21, 2019

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13839e8d10b9303c8d9aee50576e15b15f4844be91d15073a21097a85b780c50.jpg

  198. [198] 
    Michale wrote:

    In key Senate races, Democrats buck leftward tilt on issues

    In Arizona, a top Senate target for Democrats, Kelly already has taken pains to distance himself from presidential contenders like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris. He’s come out against Medicare for All, saying millions of people like their private health insurance, and against the plan to curb climate change called the Green New Deal. He’s aiming to follow Sen. Kyrsten Sinema who ended decades of GOP dominance in Arizona last year by staying clear of her party’s left wing.

    “I don’t like people going to their political and partisan corners and not working across the aisle to get things done,” Kelly told The Associated Press when he announced his candidacy in February.
    https://apnews.com/3c2a32d024a34f178a85d9dc0fc13ae0

    These are the kinds of Democrat candidates that gave the Dims their House Majority..

    And these are the types of candidates that are routinely and viciously attacked from the Left...

    That is why these types of candidates won't even make it to the General Election...

  199. [199] 
    Michale wrote:

    Thousands in Brooklyn still in dark as New York City deals with another power outage
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/07/22/new-york-city-power-outage-con-edison-restoring-power-brooklyn/1792877001/

    It's easy to point to the blame..

    Incompetent Democrat governance..

  200. [200] 
    Michale wrote:

    South Bend cops warn of ‘mass exodus,’ as morale tanks over Buttigieg handling of shooting
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/south-bend-cops-warn-of-mass-exodus-as-morale-tanks-over-buttigiegs-handling-of-shooting

    Another cop-hating Dumbocrat... :eyeroll:

  201. [201] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hay Blathy,

    You said that Orman's incestuous marriage to her brother was debunked??

    Ilhan Omar Marriage Flummoxes Media Fact-Checkers
    The 'baseless smear' that can't be debunked

    Media outlets scrambled to prove false the accusation that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D., Minn.) married her brother after President Donald Trump mentioned it, but none have been able to definitively reach an answer, largely due to Omar's unwillingness to provide information.

    Trump was asked about the accusation that Omar's husband, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, was also her brother during a scrum with reporters last Wednesday and said he had heard talk that she married her brother but knew "nothing about it."

    National media had largely kept away from judging the merits of the accusation that she was related to her second husband, which have circulated since her entry into politics in 2016, but after Trump's comment many came to quick conclusions. CNN's Jim Acosta jumped in immediately to criticize Trump for diving in on "disgusting lies." The Daily Beast‘s Will Sommer published a lengthy piece on Friday that did little to nothing to debunk what he calls a "baseless smear."

    The closest thing to evidence against the claim presented in Sommer's piece is a reference to a time Omar showed a Star Tribune reporter pictures on her cell phone of immigration documents with a list of members of her family. Sommer's piece fails to mention that Omar declined to provide copies of any of the documents to the reporter or allow him to make record of the information he was briefly allowed to view.
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/ilhan-omar-marriage-flummoxes-media-fact-checkers/

    Apparently, you are wrong.. AGAIN..... :D

  202. [202] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Case of Al Franken
    A close look at the accusations against the former senator.

    Last month, in Minneapolis, I climbed the stairs of a row house to find Al Franken, Minnesota’s disgraced former senator, wandering around in jeans and stocking feet. It was a sunny day, but the shades were mostly drawn. Takeout containers of hummus and carrot sticks were set out on the kitchen table. His wife, Franni Bryson, was stuck in their apartment in Washington, D.C., with a cold, and he had evidently done the best he could to be hospitable. But the place felt like the kind of man cave where someone hides out from the world, which is more or less what Franken has been doing since he resigned, in December, 2017, amid accusations of sexual impropriety.

    There had been occasional sightings of him: in Washington, people mentioned having glimpsed him riding the Metro or browsing alone in a bookstore; there was gossip that he had fallen into a depression, and had been seen in a fetal position on a friend’s couch. But Franken had experienced one of the most abrupt downfalls in recent political memory. He had been perhaps the most recognizable figure in the Senate, in part because he’d entered it as a celebrity: a best-selling author and a former writer and performer on “Saturday Night Live.” Now Franken was just one more face in a gallery of previously powerful men who had been brought down by the #MeToo movement, and whom no one wanted to hear from again. America had ghosted him.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken

    How does it feel Dumbocrats??

    How does it feel to sacrifice one of your own on the altar of Identity Politics and Political Correctness?? :eyeroll:

  203. [203] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, Blathy....

    PolitiFact, perhaps wisely, didn't dive into the marriage question after Trump's Wednesday remark, but rather went to the Star Tribune to ask about its attempts to gather facts needed to reach a conclusion. The Minnesota paper's political editor told PolitiFact his interest in the marriage controversy began because his reporters "were not getting a lot of answers" from Omar on her incorrectly filed tax returns, in which she claimed to be married to her current husband, Ahmed Abdisalan Hirsi, when she in fact was not.

    About your alleged "debunking"??? Got any facts to support the claim that Ormen's marriage to her brother has been "debunked"???

    Any facts at all???

  204. [204] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Mike [194]: If you're gonna post stuff from Huffpost, it ought to be timely. That post is nearly two years old! Here's the latest -

    Living Wages Are Good For Ontario's Businesses And Taxpayers

    "Undoubtedly many members did oppose an increase in the minimum wage to $15 and other employment reforms. Others felt that the increase to $15 from $11.60 in 2016 was too rapid after years in which the rate was almost static. Those opinions are certainly valid. But increases to minimum wages, in Ontario and around the world, give rise to promises of job losses and bankruptcy with tedious predictability. In fact, such increases, as in 2018, often do not result in the doom that is predicted. In July 2018, unemployment in Ontario fell to its lowest level in 14 years. A rapid increase from $11.60 to $14 has caused no measurable negative effects on total employment."

    Another great success story!

  205. [205] 
    neilm wrote:

    John Mulaney also nails Trump without ever having to use his name in his bit: "There's a horse in the hospital"

    He did it on the Colbert show as well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU2ye11FyIQ

  206. [206] 
    Michale wrote:

    Mike [194]: If you're gonna post stuff from Huffpost, it ought to be timely. That post is nearly two years old!

    The latest??? That's more than half a year old!!!

    And what does that have to do with Bill Clinton's wishes to the genie???? :eyeroll:

  207. [207] 
    Michale wrote:

    John Mulaney

    Who????

    :eyeroll:

  208. [208] 
    Michale wrote:
  209. [209] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Okay, here's one from this month:

    Hamilton job market 'healthy,' slower in St. Catharines-Niagara: economist

    "Ontario's unemployment rate was 5.4 per cent, according to Statistics Canada, while Canada had 5.5 per cent unemployment nation-wide."

    Doesn't matter how you slice it, Mike, wage hikes don't make a difference...

  210. [210] 
    Michale wrote:

    Doesn't matter how you slice it, Mike, wage hikes don't make a difference...

    And yet..

    Seattle's Minimum Wage Has Been a Disaster, as the City's Own Study Confirms
    How Seattle provides a practical example of minimum wages leading to losses in income and employment

    https://fee.org/articles/seattles-minimum-wage-has-been-a-disaster-as-the-citys-own-study-confirms/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwvdXpBRCoARIsAMJSKqJZYsbuTrLR6AGOoFhBOsFW965HfROxcxoGvt8pItwAU2yDUt9ABq4aArZtEALw_wcB

    No matter how you slice it..

    When you double min required income, when you DOUBLE existing labor costs, that *HAS* to be made up somewhere else..

    Only a MORON thinks otherwise...

  211. [211] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Laboratories of democracy: what Seattle learned from having the highest minimum wage in the nation

    "What all sides would agree on is that the people advocating for a higher minimum wage — those among the already employed like Caroline Durocher who went on strike six years ago — were right to do so."

    Oop, it seems that Seattle isn't the wasteland that you make it out to be either...

  212. [212] 
    Paula wrote:

    Kick: [151], neilm [205] John Mulaney's "Horse in the Hospital" riff was brilliant and hilarious. It was also from 2017 and thus is, perhaps, a bit too optimistic about the stain that is Blotus. But it's terrific.

    In other news, Al Franken is a story again. I think he was railroaded and Jane Meyer seems to agree: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken

    We needed an investigation to achieve some sort of "closure". Instead we have a festering wound which this article will reopen. Some people may change their views but many won't and round and around we go.

  213. [213] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oop, it seems that Seattle isn't the wasteland that you make it out to be either...

    Yea, that's what Left Wing American hating morons say...

    And YOU believe them.. because you are the same..

  214. [214] 
    Michale wrote:

    In other news, Al Franken is a story again. I think he was railroaded and Jane Meyer seems to agree:

    Yea.. I already posted that..

    yer a little slow, ain'tcha... Too many drugs??? :D

  215. [215] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Yea, that's what Left Wing American hating morons say. And YOU believe them.. because you are the same.

    So you raise the issue, only to dismiss it?

    The FACT of the matter is that the minimum wage went up in Ontario and Seattle, and NOTHING HAPPENED, save that a lot of folks at the bottom made more money.

    And you can't paper that over with your usual slapdick stuff, because it's true.

  216. [216] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Yea.. I already posted that..

    Why? It's quite complimentary to Franken. I think that Paula is right.

  217. [217] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Hey, how about we talk about the massive demonstrations against the Republican governor of Puerto Rico?

    Just for kicks.

  218. [218] 
    Michale wrote:

    So you raise the issue, only to dismiss it?

    No, I dismiss your bullshit...

    The FACT of the matter is that the minimum wage went up in Ontario and Seattle, and NOTHING HAPPENED, save that a lot of folks at the bottom made more money.

    No, that's the bullshit.

    I already provided the FACTS that Seattle lost a buttload of jobs because of the raising to $15 min wage..

    Why? It's quite complimentary to Franken. I think that Paula is right.

    Of course you do.. Duh... Yer both Party slaves and NEVER disagree on ANYTHING..

    Hey, how about we talk about the massive demonstrations against the Republican governor of Puerto Rico?

    I already posted about that.. Puerto Ricans are pissed that Democrat-style rule is killing their island.. I have been there.. It COULD be beautiful, except for the shitty government..

    You really are on too many drugs, aren't you?? :eyeroll:

  219. [219] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Trump continues to call "the Squad" racist..

    The “Squad” is a very Racist group of troublemakers who are young, inexperienced, and not very smart. They are pulling the once great Democrat Party far left, and were against humanitarian aid at the Border...And are now against ICE and Homeland Security. So bad for our Country!

    Sort of a 'pot calling the kettle black' situation. Moreover, there should be lots of tweets to come, because EVERYONE is criticizing ICE and Homeland Security...

  220. [220] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    I already provided the FACTS

    Your 'facts' were a two year old opinion piece.

    Yer both Party slaves and NEVER disagree on ANYTHING..

    We see reality in the same way. Too bad that you don't have that.

    Puerto Ricans are pissed that Democrat-style rule is killing their island..

    No, they're protesting the REPUBLICAN governor.

    Keep up.

  221. [221] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Sorry, spoke too soon - it appears that the governor of Puerto Rico isn't republican...

    Well, he'll be gone by tomorrow.

  222. [222] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump continues to call "the Squad" racist..

    So?? They ARE racist... The facts overwhelmingly prove this..

    We see reality in the same way. Too bad that you don't have that.

    You see YOUR reality in the same way.. The actual factual reality is far different..

    No, they're protesting the REPUBLICAN governor.

    Keep up.

    Yea?? You really are a SAD SIMPLE creature, aren't you???

    Sorry, spoke too soon

    No.. You spoke without thinking.. Which is your normal state of affairs..

    it appears that the governor of Puerto Rico isn't republican...

    No shit, sherlock.. The ENTIRE island governance is patterned after the Dumbocrat Party..

    THAT is why it's in the shitter.. Democrat governance DOESN'T WORK....

    Just look at the shit hole that is San Francisco..

    They have to have PATROLS to go around and pick up HUMAN shit...

    THAT is the Democrat Party in a nutshell..

  223. [223] 
    Michale wrote:

    Sorry,

    Yes you are.. Congrats.. Recognizing it is the first step...

  224. [224] 
    Michale wrote:

    Sorry, spoke too soon - it appears that the governor of Puerto Rico isn't republican...

    In other words, I was factually accurate and you were wrong..

    Just like always..

    But you CAN'T admit it..

    And now, let's look back at the disaster that was Puerto Rico's hurricane response..

    Turns out it was NOT because of President Trump.. It was because of the shitty Democrat-esque government of Puerto Rico..

    ***AS I SAID AT THE TIME***

    The Puerto Rican people are simply now CONFIRMING what I said before.. :D

    Well, he'll be gone by tomorrow.

    And then ANOTHER dumb-shit moron Democrat type leader will take his place...

    "And so it goes and so it goes... And so will you soon I suppose..."
    -Billy Joel

  225. [225] 
    Michale wrote:

    Lemme ask ya, Balthy..

    Do you EVER get tired of being wrong??

    Do you EVER get tired of me wiping the forum floor with you and yer fellow Dumbocrats???

    Do ya??? :D

    "Well... Do ya?? Punk???..."
    -Clint Eastwood

    :D

  226. [226] 
    Kick wrote:

    neilm
    205

    He did it on the Colbert show as well.

    Thank you, Neil! I got motivated to find a video of the entire bit from Kid Gorgeous at Radio City. :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhkZMxgPxXU

  227. [227] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    195

    This is PLAGIARISM. Stop doing it, please.

  228. [228] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's really starting to look like Hillary Clinton's going to run. The digital team behind both of President Obama's campaigns is already preparing for a Hillary Clinton run. They're starting early because they've got to delete 10 years of Bill Clinton's browser history.

    hehehehehehe

  229. [229] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why is Hillary Clinton running for President?

    Because it's easier than running from Law Enforcement.

    :D heh

  230. [230] 
    Michale wrote:

    What did Bill Clinton say to Monica Lewinsky?

    I told you to lick my erection, not wreck my election.

    hehehehe

  231. [231] 
    Michale wrote:

    My poll numbers are dropping faster than Bill's pants around an intern.
    -Hillary Clinton

    :D

  232. [232] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hillary's favorite pizza??

    Little Seizures...

    :D

  233. [233] 
    Michale wrote:
  234. [234] 
    Kick wrote:

    Paula
    212

    Kick: [151], neilm [205] John Mulaney's "Horse in the Hospital" riff was brilliant and hilarious. It was also from 2017 and thus is, perhaps, a bit too optimistic about the stain that is Blotus. But it's terrific.

    Too true. Perhaps John Mulaney will do an updated bit called "Horse Shit All Over the Hospice."

    Mulaney could borrow some of the America Hater's descriptions and call it "This American Carnage" or "American Garbage Death Spiral." There really is a tweet for everything:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    The Navy Yard shooting is a horrible disaster. If we don't clean up OUR COUNTRY of the garbage soon, we are just going to do a death spiral!

    6:21 AM · Sep 17, 2013 · Twitter for Android

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/379928139285422080?s=20

    In other news, Al Franken is a story again. I think he was railroaded and Jane Meyer seems to agree.

    Yep. And as Kirsten Gillibrand exists stage left of her upcoming and likely final presidential debate, tell her Al Franken says, "Good bye!" :)

  235. [235] 
    Michale wrote:

    Progressives Are Convinced That Trump Is Toast

    But that attitude may mean they'll be burned again.
    https://tinyurl.com/y5n4j9sy

    Democrats are all about being fooled once again.. :D

  236. [236] 
    Kick wrote:

    Balthasar
    217

    Hey, how about we talk about the massive demonstrations against the Republican governor of Puerto Rico?

    Just for kicks.

    Just for Kick!? Well, oh boy and okay!

    There is a massive protest against Rosselló who is being asked to resign because of a 889-page profanity-laced, misogynistic, homophobic online chat being referred to as "Rickyleaks" and/or "Chatgate" where he and nine other male members of his administration:

    * Used vulgar references regarding Puerto Rican star Ricky Martin's sexuality

    * Referred to Melissa Mark-Viverito -- a political ally of San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz, running for the Popular Democratic Party nomination to challenge Rosselló -- using the Spanish word for "whore"

    * Referred to San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz -- who has announced her intent to run against Rosselló in 2020 -- saying, "she’s off her meds" and following that up with, "either that, or she's a tremendous HP," the Spanish initials for "son/daughter of a bitch."

    * Referred to the head of the federal oversight board as a "kitten."

    * Joked that a female member of the territory's senate belonged in a whorehouse.

    * Joked amongst themselves that a female member of Puerto Rico's senate "belonged in a whorehouse."

    So it's perfectly understandable why you'd think he is a Republican!

    The fact is that tens of thousands of Puerto Rico's people have discovered through "Rickyleaks" and/or "Chatgate" that the man who portrayed himself as a gentle and even meek family man has been exposed as nothing more than a fraud because that's how you take down a con in the end.

    El fin! :)

  237. [237] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Kick [236]: El fin! indeed. I don't like favorite son candidates. You can't trust 'em!

  238. [238] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    It is simply not clear what the president meant when he dictated the message he wanted Lewandowski to give to Sessions about Mueller.

    Not clear to who? Brain-dead coma patients, maybe? Republicans keep trying to argue that no one can tell if Trump is coherent when he makes his wild statements or if he is just in a coked-out-crazy stupor; which is an odd thing to say about someone who is known as “a stable genius”.

    Trump ordered Lewandowski to tell Sessions to unrecuse himself or that Sessions was fired! It really isn’t that difficult of a message — the language is astoundingly coherent, especially for Trump.

  239. [239] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Kick

    I believe Russ's point is that your incessant whining about the people on this board and your opinion regarding other posters isn't discussing politics, it's discussing us.

    Because the point ISN'T Trump's actions.. The point it YOUR hypocrisy..

    You're proving Russ's point that you're just here to troll. The point is that you get your jollies trolling the people on this board with your bullshit versus the actual discussion of political issues. Trump is a political issue, while none of the posters on this board are.

    Spot on! Michale makes my case for me, yet still tries to deny any of it is true! The lengths one must go to maintain that level of denial must be exhausting.

    I love John Mulaney’s Horse in the Hospital analogy! He’s finally getting the recognition he deserves as an incredibly talented comic.

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