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Friday Talking Points -- Tanks For The Memories (Of The Continental Army's Air Force, That Is...)

[ Posted Friday, July 5th, 2019 – 17:05 UTC ]

After all the hype, things weren't nearly as bad as they could have been in Washington D.C. for the nation's birthday. Donald Trump gave a speech in front of some stationary tanks, but he (mostly) rigorously kept to the script which had been written for him to parrot. Perhaps someone had explained that if he went off script and turned the event into a campaign rally, then his campaign would have had to foot the bill. The size of that bill is still a secret, although the National Park Service admitted it had used over $2 million for it that should have gone to regular park maintenance.

It also, quite literally, rained all over Trump's big day. No better metaphor could have existed, really. Trump tried to hijack an event which has always been strictly nonpartisan and universally welcomed in D.C. (where every other day is absolutely consumed with partisan fighting), but in the end D.C.'s Fourth of July will survive even Trump. After all, the event is bigger than he could ever hope to be. It will go down in history, in fact, as a textbook example of why America should never again elect a man-baby to the Oval Office. Speaking of babies, the Trump Baby Blimp made an appearance, and veterans handed out T-shirts with the logo of the U.S.S. John McCain, just to get under Trump's thin skin. So a fun time was had by all, in the end.

Trump did provide one bit of amusement for his detractors, when (according to him) the TelePrompTer went out (or was possibly obscured by rain) so he just went ahead and said the following:

In June of 1775, the Continental Congress created a unified army out of the revolutionary forces encamped around Boston and New York and named after the great George Washington, commander-in-chief. The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown. Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do. And at Fort McHendry, under "the rockets red glare," it had nothing but victory. And when dawn came, their star-spangled banner waved defiant.

Let's see if we can count up all the mistakes in just that one paragraph alone, shall we? Most glaring, of course, was the fantastic claim that the Revolutionary forces "took over the airports," since this would have happened more than 125 years before the first airplane flew at Kitty Hawk. But, of course, there were other mistakes as well, since it was Trump "winging it," as it were (pun intended). The Continental Army was never "named after the great George Washington" (unless his secret middle name was "Continental"); they suffered a bitter winter at (not "of") Valley Forge; the ultimate victory was in Yorktown, Virginia, not New Jersey ("across the waters of the Delaware"); Cornwallis was not "of" Yorktown, that's just where his army got beat; Fort McHenry (not "McHendry") was instrumental in the War of 1812, not the Revolution; not even sure what "rammed the ramparts" is supposed to mean; and, of course, the "air" was not "manned" by the non-existent pilots flying their non-existent airplanes from the non-existent airports.

Twitter, of course, had a field day with Trump's Revolutionary Air Force. As did many others. How patriotic!

Sigh. At least he didn't talk about the Continental Army's nuclear bombs, we suppose.

Snark aside, though, let's get right to the rest of the political world. We didn't write a Friday Talking Points column last week, because we were busy writing up our reactions to the Thursday night debate instead. This means we've really got two weeks of news to cover, including how the first round of Democratic 2020 presidential debates turned out.

Polls have been coming in all week, and they have mostly confirmed the widespread initial post-debate impression that Elizabeth Warren won the first night, while Kamala Harris knocked it out of the park on the second night in her showdown with Joe Biden. Biden, Warren, Harris, and Bernie Sanders are now grouped together as frontrunners, which is a shift from the way things stood before the first round of debates. As mentioned, we wrote up our immediate debate impressions last Thursday and Friday, if anyone's still interested.

Since then, some of the campaigns have been releasing their second-quarter fundraising totals, and so far it looks like Pete Buttigieg is out in front, raising roughly $25 million. But while the numbers are being touted by some of the frontrunners, the more interesting numbers are going to be those down at the bottom of the stack, because a very weak second quarter might just mean the end of the road for some candidates. The ones who have qualified for the second debate round will almost certainly stay in until then, hoping for a breakout moment to revive their fortunes, but our guess is that soon after the second debates (to be held later this month), many of the minor candidates will be calling it quits. Some, like John Hickenlooper, will then have the option to run for a different office, but the others will likely just fade into the background once again. This was always going to be necessary, of course, with such a wide field, but the two-month gap between the second debates and the third, coupled with anemic fundraising, is likely going to be the cause for many candidacies to end.

Over on the other side, the Trump campaign has been running ads purportedly showing "just plain American folks" talking about how wonderful Trump is, but they goofed in a big way because the stock photos and video they used actually depict models from "France, Brazil, and Turkey." In other words, the videos are lying on multiple levels at once, which is about par for Trump's course.

In past election cycles, the Republicans have been able to heavily rely on the National Rifle Association for election help, but this is going to be a far smaller factor this time around, because the N.R.A. is completely imploding. Their second-in-command just quit in the midst of a serious factional battle involving blackmail, and their vaunted "NRA TV" video channel just closed down. So they likely aren't going to be able to throw quite as much weight around in the 2020 elections.

Before he was extolling the Continental Air Force during our national birthday, Trump spent some time overseas, and (as usual) he said some rather idiotic things over there, too. When he was asked about "Western-style liberalism," Trump obviously had no idea what the term meant, and responded: "I guess, if you look at what's happening in Los Angeles, where it's so sad to look, and what's happening in San Francisco and a couple of other cities, which are run by an extraordinary group of liberal people." In other words, Trump equated "Western-style liberalism" to "liberals who run the cities on the West Coast of America." But that wasn't his most laughable misunderstanding of history overseas.

When Trump was asked about "federally-mandated busing" as "a viable way of integrating schools," he responded in part: "You know, there aren't that many ways you're going to get people to schools. So this is something that's been done.... it is certainly a primary method of getting people to schools." In other words, Trump thought he was merely being asked about "sending schoolchildren to school on buses." The stable-minded genius strikes again!

Trump did make some news overseas when he threw together an ad hoc meeting with Kim Jong Un, and handed the North Korean leader an enormous propaganda victory by stepping over the line at the demilitarized zone into North Korean territory -- the first time a sitting president has done so. What did Trump get for handing Kim such a prize? Absolutely nothing, as usual. Trump even, after the meeting, sounded like he was ready to back off on all of the standard American demands, and allow sanctions against the North to be dropped if they'll merely "freeze" their nukes at the current level. So much for denuclearization, or as Trump likes to call it, "de-nuking" the Korean Peninsula. Trump got played, he is in the process of backing down, and Kim scored big propaganda points. In other words, this meeting with Kim went roughly the same as the last two.

Halfway around the world, Iran announced that it had breached the limits on enriched uranium contained in the Iran deal that Trump walked away from, and that furthermore the next step would be to move to much more highly-enriched uranium. Unlike with North Korea, Trump isn't even bothering to talk to the Iranians, so the prospect of any new deal is as non-existent as those brave Revolutionary pilots in the George Washington Air Force, at this point.

So, to recap: North Korea has more nukes than they had when Trump took office, and Iran is closer to obtaining a nuclear weapon than it ever has been. Anyone tired of all this "winning" yet?

Back here at home, Representative Justin Amash just left the Republican Party in open disgust over what Donald Trump has done to it. He wrote an opinion piece in the Washington Post sounding the alarm for his formerly-fellow Republicans, stating his view that "modern politics is trapped in a partisan death spiral," and that "the two-party system has evolved into an existential threat to American principles and institutions."

Also back at home, there was continuing bad news for the coal industry, as three coal companies filed for bankruptcy this week. We wrote about this at more length yesterday, pointing out that coal miners are just the latest group of people who voted for Trump only to find out that his promises to them were nothing short of a cruel con job.

The crisis at the border got ugly this week, as photos of the inhumane conditions people are being held in were made public -- by the office of the inspector general. Many Democratic congressmen went down to tour the facilities to see for themselves just how bad things have gotten. During this visit, it was revealed that Border Patrol agents have been posting some vile and sexist things on a secret Facebook group. House Democrats have called the leaders of the agency into hearings next week, so that could get interesting.

House Democrats have also -- finally! -- gone to court to get the Trump administration to provide copies of Trump's taxes to the relevant committees, as required by law. This is a necessary move, but it comes about six months after it should really have happened.

What else? The 2020 Census is in complete chaos, after the Justice Department backed down and announced that the Census forms would be printed without the citizenship question, but then Trump had a tantrum on Twitter and forced them to reverse course. They're busy explaining themselves to two separate federal judges, who will likely not be impressed with the excuse: "Under President Trump, the situation went from a snafu to completely fubar."

And finally, we got to enjoy seeing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell speak (about the tempest in a teapot over a pair of Nike sneakers) at a podium in front of a field of weed. Yep, it wasn't amber waves of grain behind him, it was green fields of marijuana. Well, OK, hemp, but even so, the photo op value is still priceless. Astonishingly, while many media organizations (even lefty ones) reported on Mitch's Nike comments, virtually none of them pointed out the disconnect of one of the most powerful Republicans in Washington standing in front of a field of six-foot weed plants. That's progress, of a sort, we suppose.

 

Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week

We've got two Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week awards, which is fitting because it has been two weeks since we last handed awards out. The first of these goes to Senator Kamala Harris, who it is pretty universally agreed won last week's big debate. Harris had a breakout moment challenging Joe Biden on his past racial stances, and this week it showed up in the polling in a big way.

While almost all the other Democrats stayed fairly static in the polling after the debate (with the exception of some repositioning among the top few candidates), Harris was really the only one who saw her poll numbers change dramatically for the better, as a direct result. Notably, almost all of her rise came at Joe Biden's expense, which tends to prove that the debate was what had changed voters' minds.

Harris has yet to prove herself over time -- she still shows a worrisome willingness to quickly shift her positions when she thinks they are unpopular, as she did on the question of whether Medicare For All will abolish the private health insurance industry or not, and even on the busing question that she skewered Biden with in the debate. But it's still early days, and the campaign has a long way to go, so perhaps she'll improve in this respect later.

Harris is making the case that Democrats should nominate a former prosecutor to "prosecute the case against Donald Trump," as she put it in her closing statement. She has shown one ability that bolsters this argument more than anything else -- the ability to fight hard, face to face. That is going to be crucial in the general election campaign for whomever the Democrats decide upon, because the nominee is going to have to take Trump on and beat him in future debates. They'll also have to bone up on the history of the Continental Air Force to do so, obviously.

Last week, Harris certainly looked up to that task. She has always been known (by those who previously noticed her) for her feisty questioning style in Senate committee hearings. Prosecutors have to have a certain amount of showmanship to win trials, after all, and Harris has always done well in this particular regard.

One polling bump isn't the end of the race, of course, but Kamala Harris was really the only one who saw such a dramatic spike in her polls after the first debate (Elizabeth Warren, to be fair, also showed some movement, but her poll numbers had been trending upwards even before the debates, so it's less certain that the debates were the sole reason). For her stellar debate performance and for the polling results afterwards, Harris was an obvious pick for the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week.

But we have a second award to hand out as well, on the state government level. Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker earned his own MIDOTW award, for following through on a big campaign promise in a very impressive way. We wrote about this at length last week, after Illinois became the 11th state to legalize recreational marijuana use.

Pritzker actively campaigned on this issue, and he presented it as one of racial justice. More people of color are arrested and imprisoned for drug offenses than white people, so overturning the legacy of the failed War On Weed is one way to rectify racial injustice in America. The Illinois law was passed through the state legislature rather than as a ballot initiative, which meant that it was more comprehensive than other legalization efforts to date. Not only was marijuana made legal for recreational adult use, past criminal records will be expunged for those convicted of possession offenses. Moving forward, a certain number of licenses for marijuana businesses will be doled out to minority-owned businesses, which is meant to avoid what has happened in other states, where minority businesses have been shut out of the process for one reason or another.

In other words, Illinois didn't just legalize marijuana, they formed a plan to fix the worst abuses of the past and hopefully avoid inequality going forward. That is impressive indeed, and the Illinois law may soon become a template for other states to use when they consider legalization themselves.

Pritzker was instrumental to all of this happening. He didn't just offer lip service to legalization, he made it one of the pillars of his campaign platform, proving to other Democrats how potent an issue this can be at the ballot box when a candidate shows some real leadership instead of timidity. Legalization is a winning political issue, as Pritzker proved. He also made good on his promise to make legalization one of his top priorities when he got into office, and he motivated the legislature to take up his comprehensive approach to it. That is impressive all around, which is why we have to award a second Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week to J. B. Pritzker. Well done, Governor, well done!

[Congratulate Senator Kamala Harris on her Senate contact page, and Governor J. B. Pritzker on his official contact page, to let them know you appreciate their efforts.]

 

Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week

He's not really eligible for this award since he's not a representative of the Democratic Party or anything, but we were disappointed in the entire fracas over a Nike sneaker model with a Betsy Ross-style flag on them this week, which was sparked off by criticism from Colin Kaepernick.

The whole thing just struck us as rather silly, if truth be told. We firmly believe that you've got to carefully choose the battles you're willing to fight, and this one seemed like a battle not worth fighting at all. We supported Kaepernick's stand (or, rather, "not-stand") over the National Anthem, and we think the National Football League was wrong to blacklist him (even if he was no more than mediocre as a 49ers quarterback), but like we said you've got to pick your battles.

The Betsy Ross flag was offensive to Kaepernick because it was flown during a time of slavery, according to him. That seems an awfully broad brush to be painting with, to us. There are plenty of other offensive symbols to protest against, and this is the first time we've ever heard anyone complain about this historic flag (even if it wasn't actually sewn by Betsy Ross). It was also easy to make fun of, as conservative columnist David Brooks did on Twitter, with a rather masterful use of reductio ad absurdum: "I only wear New Balance because Nike was a goddess in a Greek culture that practiced slavery." So, once again, let's choose our battles a bit better next time, whaddya say?

We're going to reach back to the Democratic debates for the actual Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award, though, and hand it to Beto O'Rourke. Now, we could easily have given it to Marianne Williamson or Andrew Yang (or Joe Biden, for that matter), who didn't have what you could call stellar debate performances, but they simply didn't have the level of expectation behind them that Beto did.

Beto O'Rourke's candidacy was supposed to embody the youthful energy alive within the Democratic Party of late, and he was supposed to be the one in the spotlight challenging the older Democratic generation for the party's nomination. That hasn't exactly happened as originally planned. After an enormous media splash when he announced his campaign, he's been on a downward slope ever since. His debate performance utterly failed to reverse this trend.

Instead, O'Rourke was eclipsed during the first night's debate by a fellow Texan, Julián Castro. Castro and O'Rourke got into it over what they'd do to improve the border, and Castro was the clear winner of the scuffle. O'Rourke's entire campaign has had a rather ad hoc feel to it, and his debate performance also looked rather unprepared as well. He's never really given anyone a solid reason to vote for him beyond the fact that he's young and energetic and rising in the Democratic ranks. He has so far mostly failed to recapture the national Democratic wave behind him that he generated during his campaign to take down Ted Cruz in the Senate.

Anyone looking to the first debates for O'Rourke to have some sort of breakout moment was seriously disappointed last week. Which is why we've decided to give Beto O'Rourke the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week.

[Beto O'Rourke is a private citizen, and it is our longstanding policy not to link to campaign webpages, so you'll have to seek his contact info out yourself if you'd like to let him know what you think of his campaign to date.]

 

Friday Talking Points

Volume 533 (7/5/19)

We didn't post last week due to having to write about the Democratic debates, and (sadly) we will not be posting next week either as well, because we are off to Philadelphia for the annual Netroots Nation confab. The bags are being packed and the housesitter is knocking on the door, so we're just about ready to go, but it will mean that the next Friday Talking Points column will be in two weeks, so our apologies for the sporadic service.

Onward to this week's talking points, though. Since we're pressed for time (since we've got to catch our Revolution Air flight soon...), we've lazily taken every single one of them from reactions to two events from the past two weeks: Trump's impromptu meeting with Kim Jong Un, and Trump's militarizing the Fourth of July celebration. Although, as one Politico article pointed out, things could have been worse:

Back in 1845, President James Polk presided over a fireworks display at the White House. During the festivities, 12 rockets were accidentally fired into the crowd, and two people were killed. If the worst thing that happens tomorrow is just a speech, we can be thankful for small favors.

Heh. OK, let's get to the talking points, all reactions to Trump's Fourth and to one particularly egregious lie he told about Barack Obama.

 

1
   We know who we are

The first comes from Leon Panetta, President Obama's former top defense advisor, reacting to how very wrong a Trumpian military Fourth of July truly is.

We're the strongest military power on the face of the Earth and we have never had to display that power to the world in order to prove it. We know who we are, we know our strengths, and very frankly our view has always been that we should appreciate our liberties and our freedoms because in a democracy the most important thing is that we protect the values that our country is all about. That doesn't mean we have to roll tanks down the street or roll troops down the street because we know who we are. We appreciate those that serve, but most importantly, we are all part of one family when it comes to America.

 

2
   We don't do that

The second comes from Michael Steele, the guy who used to run the Republican National Committee. Steele was more succinct than Panetta.

We don't roll tanks down Constitution Avenue.

 

3
   The grass is always greener...

A CIA analyst tweeted an appropriate quote from writer Erma Bombeck.

You have to love a nation that celebrates its independence every July 4, not with a parade of guns, tanks, and soldiers who file by the White House in a show of strength and muscle, but with family picnics.

 

4
   No instance whatever

Trump made one of his off-the-cuff claims, during the photo-op with Kim Jong Un, where he claimed that President Obama had "begged" Kim to have a meeting, but that he couldn't make it happen because Kim didn't want to meet with him. This self-aggrandizing lie was supposed to show how unique Trump's "diplomacy" was, but it spectacularly backfired. James Clapper, Obama's former director of national intelligence, was quick to refute Trump's lie.

In all the deliberations that I participated in on North Korea during the Obama administration, I can recall no instance whatever where President Obama ever indicated any interest whatsoever in meeting with Chairman Kim.

 

5
   Trump is lying

From Obama's deputy national security advisor, Ben Rhodes, some stronger language.

Trump is lying. I was there for all 8 years. Obama never sought a meeting with Kim Jong Un. Foreign policy isn't reality television it's reality.

 

6
   Tell us how you really feel, Susan!

Susan Rice, however, won the prize for strong language, tweeting back at Trump:

At the risk of stating the obvious, this is horse-sh*t.

 

7
   Bush's C.I.A. director agrees

Michael Hayden, who led the C.I.A. under both George W. Bush and Barack Obama, backed Rice up, making the strong-language rebuke bipartisan:

Yes. It's horseshit.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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173 Comments on “Friday Talking Points -- Tanks For The Memories (Of The Continental Army's Air Force, That Is...)”

  1. [1] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    "It is BALOON!"
    -F Troop

  2. [2] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW: Let's see if we can count up all the mistakes in just that one paragraph alone, shall we? Most glaring, of course, was the fantastic claim that the Revolutionary forces "took over the airports," since this would have happened more than 125 years before the first airplane flew at Kitty Hawk.

    Now, now, CW... you know very well that Trump has a "very, very" good explanation for all that stupid stuff he said:

    I guess the rain knocked out the teleprompter, but I knew the speech very well, so I was able to do it without a teleprompter. ~ Donald Trump, 07/05/2019

    So there you have it... from "one of the great memories of all time." *laughs* Trump knew the speech and didn't need the dang teleprompter!

    The world is not laughing with us, they're laughing at us. What an idiot!

  3. [3] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW: The stable-minded genius strikes again!

    Isn't it possible he refers to himself as a "stable-minded genius" because his mind is full of horse shit?

  4. [4] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    There should have at least been a dishonorable mention for the MDDOTW for all the Democrats that apparently switched to Kamala Harris because of her debate moment and for any pundits that do not expose such an idiotic display for what it is instead of letting it slide in favor of giving an award for the resulting gain in the polls.

    If they are so easily fooled by nonsense like that the Dems are in real trouble.

    Or maybe that should be the Dems ARE real trouble.

    And it's time that citizens said "no tanks" to the big money Democrats as well as Trump.

    The only thing more fictional than the Continental Army's Air Force is the big money Democrats being a real opposition to the big money Republicans.

    The reality is that they are putting on a good cop/ bad cop show for the rubes while working together for the big money interests and your continuing party line bullshit is not reality.

    Get Real.

  5. [5] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW: It will go down in history, in fact, as a textbook example of why America should never again elect a man-baby to the Oval Office.

    Man-baby is exactly right! Poor Donald really thought when he became president, he'd get better press coverage. Trump explains it here and then begins to cry [seriously, the man-baby begins to cry, whereupon the interview is shut down immediately]:

    https://youtu.be/bDJ799HbzRw?t=551

    If the whiney ignoramus had two brain cells to rub together or even a scintilla of common sense, wouldn't he have obviously known better? I mean, really! Look at how Donald Trump himself treated Barack Obama with all the negative tweets and birtherism and utter asinine shit he doled out to our former POTUS.

    So I ask you: Wouldn't it take a special kind of stupid to believe that he wouldn't get some of the same treatment he dished out to Obama? Is the man-baby so utterly bereft of anything resembling a braincell that he actually believed he was the only SOB in America? :)

  6. [6] 
    Michale wrote:

    After all the hype, things weren't nearly as bad as they could have been in Washington D.C. for the nation's birthday. Donald Trump gave a speech in front of some stationary tanks, but he (mostly) rigorously kept to the script which had been written for him to parrot.

    Yunno, you could have saved yerself a lot of typing and merely said:

    We were wrong.. AGAIN....

    :D

    Just trying to help out.. :D

    Since then, some of the campaigns have been releasing their second-quarter fundraising totals, and so far it looks like Pete Buttigieg is out in front, raising roughly $25 million.

    Big woop.. President Trump did that the first 24 hours.. :D

    Again, just keeping it real.. :D

    Halfway around the world, Iran announced that it had breached the limits on enriched uranium contained in the Iran deal that Trump walked away from, and that furthermore the next step would be to move to much more highly-enriched uranium.

    If you HONESTLY believe that Iran hasn't been enriching uranium the whole time..

    I have some swampland here in FL I wanna sell you.. :D

    During this visit, it was revealed that Border Patrol agents have been posting some vile and sexist things on a secret Facebook group.

    No more vile things than Democrats have posted about President Trump and Trump supporters.

    Thin skin, eh?? :D

    Harris has yet to prove herself over time -- she still shows a worrisome willingness to quickly shift her positions when she thinks they are unpopular, as she did on the question of whether Medicare For All will abolish the private health insurance industry or not, and even on the busing question that she skewered Biden with in the debate. But it's still early days, and the campaign has a long way to go, so perhaps she'll improve in this respect later.

    Yea.. Funny how ya'all ignored the FACT that last week, Kamala I SLEPT MY WAY TO MY SENATE SEAT Harris said the EXACT same thing that Biden said..

    But hypocrisy is the life blood of Democrats..

    What else? The 2020 Census is in complete chaos, after the Justice Department backed down and announced that the Census forms would be printed without the citizenship question, but then Trump had a tantrum on Twitter and forced them to reverse course.

    Yep.. I have been proven factually accurate once again..

    The Citizen question WILL be asked.. :D

    He's not really eligible for this award since he's not a representative of the Democratic Party or anything, but we were disappointed in the entire fracas over a Nike sneaker model with a Betsy Ross-style flag on them this week, which was sparked off by criticism from Colin Kaepernick.

    Well, color me pink and slap me silly!!

    I would never have thunked it..

    Kudos..

    Kapernut is a America Hating scumbag pure and simple..

    Good call..

    :D

  7. [7] 
    Michale wrote:

    On a plus note.. Looks like California is finally going to secede from the Union...

    Literally.. :D

  8. [8] 
    Michale wrote:

    FOP vice president slams 'disgusting' video of hecklers taunting police at scene of officer's death

    Sacramento police officers were heckled by members of the community while investigating the scene where rookie officer Tara O'Sullivan was killed last week, and the vice president of the National Fraternal Order of Police said Monday that interactions like that are all too common these days.

    Jay McDonald spoke with "Fox & Friends" host Steve Doocy about the now-viral footage in which a woman can be heard telling an officer that he deserves to be shot.

    Calling the heckling "disgusting," McDonald said officers have faced more incidents of harassment and targeted violence in recent years amid anger in some communities over racially charged shootings by police.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/fop-vice-president-hecklers-sacramento-osullivan

    Democrats.. :^/

  9. [9] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's funny..

    2 short decades ago, Democrats in and out of power was heaping praise and honor on Donald Trump..

    Jesse Jackson even honored Donald Trump for his "lifetime of service to black Americans..

    Oh, but Trump had a -D after his name... So that explains it.. :eyeroll:

    That's why it's impossible for RATIONAL Americans to get all hyped up over ya'all's accusations against President Trump..

    Because it's obvious that it is SOLELY and COMPLETELY based on nothing but partisan bigotry and hate...

  10. [10] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's like when the Klingons honored Captain James T. Kirk and awarded their highest medal upon Kirk for saving the totality of the Klingon Empire..

    And then a decade or two later, accused Kirk of being a renegade and terrorist when the Klingons thought that Kirk had assassinated Chancellor Gorkan...

    Same hypocrisy at work...

  11. [11] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale -

    What you would have said if Obama had made such a monstrous error about the military: "Odumbo don't even know there WERE NO AIRPORTS during the Revolution!"

    What you said when Trump said the same idiotic thing: [crickets]

    I mean, even when he proves he's an idiot about the thing you are supposed to care about more than all others, you still give him a pass you would NEVER in a million billion years give a Democrat.

    Says a lot, don't it?

    Heh.

    :-)

    Off to Philly... loaded up a "blast from the past" repeat cycle for next week, though, so you all have that to look forward to...

    -CW

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    House Democrats have also -- finally! -- gone to court to get the Trump administration to provide copies of Trump's taxes to the relevant committees, as required by law. This is a necessary move, but it comes about six months after it should really have happened.

    Howz that McGahn subpoena coming along?? :D

    Did ya'all get to read the full un-redacted Mueller report??

    Did the House get to talk to Barr yet?? Hicks?? Mueller??

    Time to face the reality...

    The Democrats attempts to nullify a free, fair and legal election are going NO WHERE...

    Ya'all are going to have to remove Donald Trump the old-fashioned way.. At the ballot box..

    And since every Dem Candidate has promised Open Borders and free full healthcare for illegal immigrants...

    Ya'all just HAVE to know that President Donald Trump is going to massacre the Dem nominee at the ballot box...

    You heard it here first.. :D

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nike and Betsy Ross' Flag: The Left Salutes Tribalism

    One of the primary drivers of America’s success as a country involves our steadfast refusal to fall into the tribalism that afflicts much of the world. America, unlike so many nations, finds its identity not in “blood and soil” but instead in broad agreement on a set of core principles. Those shared beliefs formed the core of our founding. Tenets of our common creed include individual liberty, free-enterprise economics, tolerance, and the inalienable rights elucidated in our Constitution. Also deeply embedded in our national psyche is a reverence for our great flag, to a unique degree among modern nations.

    Sadly, elites of entertainment, big business, and politics look askance at this reverence and view our common respect for such a symbol as a hindrance to the balkanized America they promote. Rather than hundreds of millions of individuals united in principles, they seek a society demarcated by factions that share outward physical characteristics, especially race.

    This contentious crusade toward tribalism reared its ugly head again with Nike acquiescing to the demands of the politically correct mob: Ahead of July 4th, it recalled a new line of athletic shoes commemorating the original Betsy Ross flag that was delivered to Gen. Washington during the American Revolution. Nike endorser Colin Kaepernick objected that the founding flag of our country represents racism because America then allowed slavery.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/07/05/nike_and_betsy_ross_flag_the_left_salutes_tribalism_140716.html

    Every country in this world has had slavery at one point or another in their history..

    Yet the US is the ONLY country that bends over backwards to give EVERY opportunity to black Americans relying on racism itself..

    My grandfather was never a slave owner..

    Not a SINGLE black American has a grandfather who was a slave..

    And yet, somehow, someway, today's black Americans are told by the Democrat Party, the PARTY of slave owners, that they are due reparations for what occurred over a hundred years ago..

    Giving away Free Stuff is just the Democrat Party's way of being slave owners once again...

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    And yet, somehow, someway, today's black Americans are told by the Democrat Party, the PARTY of slave owners,

    And don't give me no crap about it's not relevant to today that the Democrat Party was once the Party of slave owners..

    If I am responsible for the slavery from a hundred + years ago, then the Democrat Party is damn well responsible for the racism of 60+ years ago..

  15. [15] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    If I am responsible for the slavery from a hundred + years ago, then the Democrat Party is damn well responsible for the racism of 60+ years ago..

    People who are always complaining about what people think about them are typically devastated to learn how rarely anyone actually does think of them.

    No one is blaming you for slavery...stupidity - yes - but not slavery.

    Very few white people have ancestors that owned slaves — that’s because only the wealthiest of people could afford slaves...or needed their labor. In 1860 only a small minority of whites owned slaves. According to the U.S. census report for that last year before the Civil War, there were nearly 27 million whites in the country. Some eight million of them lived in the slaveholding states.

    The census also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves. For now, let’s assume that all of the slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country (or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves). And it is important to note that not all slave owners were white. In fact, the 2nd largest slave owner at the time was a black man that owned three sugar cane plantations outside of New Orleans. But many blacks that bought their own freedom would also try to buy their loved ones. In 1860, almost 20% of the slave owners living in New Orleans were black.

    I am all for reparations that aren’t meant for individuals, but that go to programs that assist portions of communities that are in need. Georgetown University sold off over 100 slaves that it owned in the early 1800’s — breaking up families and sending them to Louisiana to work on plantations there. The students recently voted to increase their own tuition a small amount with the proceeds going to programs that assist the communities where many of the slaves’ descendants still live today. The area lacks medical care, secondary education, and basic utilities — the students believe the school has a responsibility to help the descendants of the slaves it sold off to keep the school afloat financially.

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    No one is blaming you for slavery..

    OK, then I, and everyone else like me who is not to blame for slavery, are exempt from paying taxes to cover reparations..

    Good..

    I am all for reparations that aren’t meant for individuals,

    And yet, when the Democrats all sound off about reparations to individual black Americans, you are strangely silent..

    And, as you believe with President Trump.. Silence Gives Assent..

    The simple fact is, the Democrat Party is as racist as it has always been...

    Everything they do, EVERYTHING they stand for is based on race..

    The epitome of racism..

    Reparations is moronic...

    Give black Americans their pride back instead of economically enslaving them..

    Democrats are still the slave owners. They traded one form of slavery and slave ownership for another..

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    but that go to programs that assist portions of communities that are in need.

    Go to BLACK communities, right??

    OK, let's go with this..

    Black communities have had aid programs and welfare programs and education programs SOLELY dedicated to black Americans for 70+ years...

    Apparently, they haven't done any good, according to Democrats..

    So MORE aid programs are the answer???

    By what logic do you come to that conclusion??

    Maybe the better way would be to let black Americans achieve on the strength of their CHARACTER rather than the color of their skin..

    That is what Dr Martin Luther King wanted...

    But Democrats need to keep black Americans enslaved..

    Hence all the freebies and give-aways..

    Cause gods help the Democrat Party when black Americans realize that they CAN succeed on their own merits, that they don't NEED all the welfare and handouts..

    Yer way apparently doesn't work..

    Maybe a new way is the best way forward...

    Naaawww.. Democrats still want to be slave owners..

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    Lemme ask ya'all this??

    When does it end??

    When does the Democrat Party stop treating black Americans like slaves to be protected and coddled??

    When does the Democrat Party start treating black Americans as equals who don't need to be given welfare and free stuff and advantages over other races??

    When does the Democrat Party say to black Americans, "Free at last, free at last. Thank god almighty ya'all are free at last.."...???

    When does that happen??

    I mean, institutionalized racism is dead.. It died the day we elected a black American as POTUS and had an administration that was predominantly black Americans...

    So, what more does the Democrat Party need to declare, we made it.. We are post-racist society...

    Probably never.. Because the day that THAT happens is the day that the Democrat Party loses their largest constituency...

    So, the Democrat Party will continue to enslave black Americans, continue to tell black Americans that they are nothing but victims that need white people to protect them..

    :^/

  19. [19] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    "Kapernut"? Damn.

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Kapernut"? Damn.

    Damn!! OK, mea culpa on that one..

    Individuals are going to be a lot harder NOT to mock.. Especially when it's so well-deserved...

    Him and Occasional Cortex are special cases unto themselves.. They make take longer, if ever...

    Kinda like "Blotus" and "Orange Cheeto" and such...

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    'sides..

    It's easier to spell...

  22. [22] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Obama begged Kim Un in the same way Kim Un chortled to Trump that Biden was an idiot...of course it's slew of verbal diarrhea; News Flash...Trump makes shit up as he goes along, even his unwashed mob get that...Which brings me to my observations, now the hustings are afoot.
    Obviously, one has to keep an eye on the to-ing's and fro-ing's of the Dems as they go about their whittling-down process, but it's much more amusing to watch the incumbent and his acolytes go about their flailing's.

    Were you a Martian, unfamiliar with the Trumpian con-job, you'd think he was a shoe-in to triumph again in a general election. He's happily trashing the likes of Biden, Harris and Sanders to his supporters, people you'd assume already have strong disinclinations towards the Dem front runners. Insanity Hannity is bringing up the rear with his 'deep state never-Trumpers' conspiracy hogwash and shoring up 'woe is Trump, the perennial victim' fallback talking point, for an already delusional support base...
    We get it, Trump is as pure as the driven snow, and the evil liberal media are to blame for everything that goes pear-shaped on his watch. We also concede that the Dems are 100% to blame for the swiss cheese-like immigration laws, regardless of the fact that the GOP preferred to heap an onerous tax break on the rich instead of fixing this calamitous immigration situation while they held both houses of congress for two years. Damn Don Lemon and his traitorous gang, why would they besmirch such a man as Trump, friend to farmers and coal miners alike. He strides the land and his munificence for all has blessed the nation, stiffened limp shoulders and straightened the backs of the forgotten plebs, from whose unwashed ranks he so proudly hails. Such a man of the people Trump is, uncontested future Nobel laurate, Saint, Mount Rushmore countenance...

    It's us that's wrong about him, it could never be him that's wrong about us. Surely.

    If only he'd reach out to the solid 65% of the electorate that would sooner set light to their own pubic hair than vote for him in the next election, bliss would replace turmoil and love would reign.

    Forget it, the 65% should smarten up and fly straight, Trump, after all, has a Democracy to keep a grip on.

    Happy 4th, you ingrates....not one man Jack of you deserved the pageant staged in Trump's/your honour, Liz Warren was obviously commissioned by the Clintons to do a rain dance. Next year it'll be BBQ's, picnics and a day at the beach for the lot of you, and even that's too good for you, considering the terrible way you treat your kindly president.

    ;)

    LL&P

  23. [23] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Damn!! OK, mea culpa on that one..

    Hehhehehe

    Old habits die hard. :)

    You can still mock individuals without calling them names. I know for a fact that you can find a more creative way to do it. I have faith!

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    Were you a Martian, unfamiliar with the Trumpian con-job, you'd think he was a shoe-in to triumph again in a general election.

    Given the fact that all the Dem candidates stated plainly and unequivocally that they will have Open Borders and/or Full Free Healthcare for Illegals....

    President Trump IS a shoe-in to triumph in the 2020 election...

    Even Democrats concede this..

    So yea... Martian or no, anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together and is NOT a Party slave knows that no Dem candidate can with a US Presidential election running on Open Borders and/or Free Full Healthcare for illegal immigrants..

  25. [25] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Kinda like "Blotus" and "Orange Cheeto" and such..

    Yeah, I'd like to see them disappear too. All we can do, Michale, is set a good example and hope that it is followed at some point.

  26. [26] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    President Trump IS a shoe-in to triumph in the 2020 election...

    Not if Biden can effectively explain the situation and his position. Which, sad to say, is not a done deal.

  27. [27] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It has become an increasingly complicated world.

    There is no shame in having to explain a few things so that people who don't follow politics on a daily basis can know all of the ins and outs of a policy instead of just slogans that are often far the facts and truth of a matter.

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    Not if Biden can effectively explain the situation and his position. Which, sad to say, is not a done deal.

    First, Biden has to be ALLOWED to explain the situation as the Dem candidate..

    And yer right.. That is not a done deal...

    Put another way..

    If Biden can triumph against the Democrat forces allied against him...

    I might go as far to say he DESERVES to be POTUS...

    I have read he is already trying to walk back and clarify his stance on Free Full Healthcare for illegal immigrants..

    He knows better than most that such a position is a death knell for any Dem POTUS candidate...

  29. [29] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    far from the facts, of course

  30. [30] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    ... he is already trying to walk back and clarify his stance on Free Full Healthcare for illegal immigrants..

    Actually, he never said that and I don't believe he raised his hand when that question was asked - he raised a finger in an attempt to clarify his stance on that question.

    He is not for any sort of healthcare for undocumented immigrants that he isn't in favour of for any American without health insurance.

    His is also NOT for decriminalizing illegal crossings of the border.

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    There is no shame in having to explain a few things so that people who don't follow politics on a daily basis can know all of the ins and outs of a policy instead of just slogans that are often far the facts and truth of a matter.

    Unfortunately, conventional campaign wisdom dictates that if you're explaining, you're losing..

    On the other hand, with the advent of President Trump, conventional campaign wisdom is effectively out the window...

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    He is not for any sort of healthcare for undocumented immigrants that he isn't in favour of for any American without health insurance.

    His is also NOT for decriminalizing illegal crossings of the border.

    In that case, he is way WAY ahead of the other Dem candidates as far as electability goes..

    Unfortunately, the Democrat Party is all about Party Purity....

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    So after some heated debate, the scientists assembled in Maryland decided to deploy a fleet of unmanned, nonnuclear “kinetic impactor” spacecraft against the incoming asteroid. Kinetic impactors are essentially cannonball technology: You pack a spacecraft with a payload of solid metal and then crash it head-on into the asteroid, in hopes not of destroying it but of reducing its speed by a tiny fraction. That way, by the time it reaches its predicted rendezvous point with Earth, our planet will have already moved on in its orbit, and the asteroid will fly harmlessly by.

    At least in theory. In the Maryland scenario, NASA, the European Space Agency, Japan, Russia and China all launched hastily designed and untested kinetic impactor ships. Three of them smashed into the asteroid. The main body of the asteroid was deflected and would miss Earth. Denver was saved! Unfortunately, one of the kinetic impacts inadvertently broke off a 200-foot-wide chunk of the asteroid—and that hurtling fragment was now on track to hit New York City.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-asteroid-peril-isnt-science-fiction-11562339356

    "Would ya miss it?? Huh?? Would ya??"
    -President, AUSTIN POWERS 2-The Spy Who Shagged Me

    :D

  34. [34] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Here is a link to an op-ed Biden wrote about US policy in Latin America and its impacts on migration.

    I'd like to get your take on it ...

    https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article231878448.html

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Last week gave us more evidence that President Trump’s morally bankrupt re-election strategy relies on vilifying immigrants to score political points while implementing policies that ensure asylum seekers and refugees keep arriving at our border.

    I can't get past that..

    President Trump's is solely and completely and unequivocally concentrating on ILLEGAL immigrants..

    President Trump has never vilified LEGAL immigrants..

    As long as Biden can't debate the REAL issue (ILLEGAL immigrants) he will never be factually accurate..

    The issue is, was and always has been.. the ILLEGAL immigrants.. The criminals...

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Thus spake the lord."
    -Chuck, SUPERNATURAL

    :D

  37. [37] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Black communities have had aid programs and welfare programs and education programs SOLELY dedicated to black Americans for 70+ years...

    Great, since you know so much about this topic, maybe you can name some of the programs and what they do?

    And when you say welfare programs, what you really are talking about is government assistance that white people pretend only blacks receive and that allows them to live high on the hog without ever working a day in their lives, right?

    There are plenty of job training and educational programs that have had great success in helping people living in extremely poor communities improve their quality of life. On reservations across the country, tribes have installed junior colleges that allow members to get a higher education without the costs of going to a big university which takes them away from home. These are the type programs that I am referring to.

    But please share with us all of the failed programs that you feel are damaging the poor communities and the reasons they failed so that we know that you aren’t just talking out of your arse.

    And yet, when the Democrats all sound off about reparations to individual black Americans, you are strangely silent..

    And yet, when there are news reports of people having sex with farm animals, you are strangely silent. Not to mention how silent you’ve been about George Nader being arrested on child porn charges...AGAIN! Funny that Trump had a convicted kiddie porn collector working in his campaign that you never condemned.

    And, as you believe with President Trump.. Silence Gives Assent..

    You are projecting again. You are the one always claims we must support the vile actions of someone you bring up since we didn’t condemn them prior to you telling us about them!

    And face it, silence has never been an issue with Trump!

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    Great, since you know so much about this topic, maybe you can name some of the programs and what they do?

    Affirmative Action...

    'Nuff said...

    You are projecting again. You are the one always claims we must support the vile actions of someone you bring up since we didn’t condemn them prior to you telling us about them!

    That's what YA'ALL claim when President Trump didn't immediately condemn Charlottesville in the manner YOU wanted him too..

    Goose.. Gander... Get it???

  39. [39] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    I mean, institutionalized racism is dead.. It died the day we elected a black American as POTUS and had an administration that was predominantly black Americans...

    If I thought you were kidding, this would be an extremely funny comment! If institutionalized racism died because we had a black president and an administration “that was predominantly black”, then it was jolted back from the dead with the Trump presidency and all three of the blacks in his administration (two of them he has already fired!)


    So, what more does the Democrat Party need to declare, we made it.. We are post-racist society...

    Probably never.. Because the day that THAT happens is the day that the Democrat Party loses their largest constituency...

    Why would they lose them? Do you think the black community would rush to the GOP if that happened? I’m sure your white nationalists would welcome them with open arms!

  40. [40] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    That's what YA'ALL claim when President Trump didn't immediately condemn Charlottesville in the manner YOU wanted him too..

    Trump wasn’t silent on the subject....he said there were some really fine people on both sides! He didn’t condemn anyone for spreading their hatred — he excused them!

    So no, that isn’t the same thing!

  41. [41] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Affirmative Action...

    'Nuff said...

    Nope. First, were blacks the only ones who benefitted from this, or are they simply the only ones that you are bothered by their getting assistance? You said these programs were created for the black communities, so anything that benefitted other groups would not meet your definition. Plus, you did not explain how this program was a failure.

  42. [42] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    President Trump's is solely and completely and unequivocally concentrating on ILLEGAL immigrants..

    Bullshit! Asylum seekers are not “illegal immigrants”, and yet they are the main ones Trump is punishing.


    President Trump has never vilified LEGAL immigrants..

    Survey says......[X]!


    "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best... They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists.”

    The only people Mexico sends to the United States are legal immigrants.

    And don’t forget Trump’s love of immigrants from “shithole countries”!

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bullshit! Asylum seekers are not “illegal immigrants”, and yet they are the main ones Trump is punishing.

    Yes, they ARE illegal immigrants..

    Because they are using the asylum process under false pretenses...

    The only people Mexico sends to the United States are legal immigrants.

    Bullshit..

    And don’t forget Trump’s love of immigrants from “shithole countries”!

    ILLEGAL immigrants from shithole countries..

    Plus, you did not explain how this program was a failure.c

    It's a FAILURE because NOW you Democrat morons are pushing for reparations..

    If Affirmative Action was a success, there would be no NEED for reparations..

    But, you ignore the question..

    When does it end??

    When does the Democrat Party start treating black Americans as equals who don't need to be given welfare and free stuff and advantages over other races??

    Never..

    Because if it ever ended, Democrats would lose their status as slave owners...

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump wasn’t silent on the subject....he said there were some really fine people on both sides! He didn’t condemn anyone for spreading their hatred — he excused them!

    Just as Biden excused the AntiFa terrorists..

    How is that any different???

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why would they lose them? Do you think the black community would rush to the GOP if that happened?

    Yes, because the GOP is the ONLY Party that treats black Americans are equals..

    Which is why, black Americans who are GOP are successful in all walks of life and black Americans who are Dem are only successful in social jobs and victim playing...

    Jussie Smollet is a PERFECT example of a black Democrat...

    A victim looking for a persecutor...

    Moron...

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    Gavin Newsom seeks Trump administration’s help after earthquakes, declares emergency
    https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article232361077.html

    Once again, Democrats go whining and crying to President Trump for help when they can't handle their natural disasters...

    Kinda puts a crimp in all the Trump/America hate when you have to go begging hat in hand, eh?? :eyeroll:

    Democrat governance is so damn good??

    Take care of the problem yerselves...

    That's what GOP-run states do...

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Tempe Police officers claim they were asked to leave Starbucks
    http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/tempe-police-officers-claim-they-were-asked-to-leave-starbucks

    Cop hating Democrats strike again...

    "Waaa Waaa I don't feel safe because there is a cop around!!!"
    -Luser Democrat

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    "We have deep respect for the Tempe Police Department and its service to our community. We have reached out to understand better what may have happened in our store, and to apologize for any misunderstanding or inappropriate behavior that may have taken place."

    There wasn't any misunderstanding..

    Democrats hate cops... :^/

  49. [49] 
    Patrick wrote:

    (46) Michale

    "That's what GOP-run states do"

    Nice try on that one.

    Most & Least Federally Dependent States

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

    The top ten most dependent.

    1 New Mexico
    2 Mississippi
    3 Kentucky
    4 West Virginia
    5 Alabama
    6 Arizona
    7 Alaska
    8 Montana
    9 South Carolina
    10 Indiana

    All red states except for NM.

  50. [50] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    So, what's up with New Mexico.

  51. [51] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Hey Michale!

    I just saw Biden's apology in South Carolina.

    It just doesn't get any better than that!

  52. [52] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    We could both take some lessons. :)

  53. [53] 
    Patrick wrote:

    Liz, this is a quote I found.

    "The state is home to four military bases — Holloman, Cannon and Kirtland Air Force Bases and the Army’s White Sands Missile Range. We host two national laboratories — Sandia and Los Alamos. Add in our research universities and you can see why the state’s economy hinges on federal purse strings."

  54. [54] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I see.

  55. [55] 
    neilm wrote:

    Patrick [53]

    Thanks.

    So, basically, since New Mexico is so empty the military can use it as a target range and nuclear testing ground, it get's an unfair share of Federal money.

    Did any other state want to become a nuclear testing ground? I'd guess we give NM a pass on this one.

    The rest of the states in the top 5 are just moochers.

  56. [56] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Yes, they ARE illegal immigrants..

    Because they are using the asylum process under false pretenses...

    No, they are asylum seekers...calling them “illegals” is just your feeble attempt to justify your bigotry. The legitimacy of their requests for asylum are for the asylum courts to decide, not you!

    It's a FAILURE because NOW you Democrat morons are pushing for reparations..

    If Affirmative Action was a success, there would be no NEED for reparations..

    Wow! Affirmative Action was meant to solve every problem...every injustice??? Really? Why didn’t you tell anyone about this sooner? Maybe we could have tried harder if we’d only known!

    But, you ignore the question..

    When does it end??

    When does the Democrat Party start treating black Americans as equals who don't need to be given welfare and free stuff and advantages over other races??

    Poor little Trumpkin...where is your help? You are so afraid that if any other race is given equal footing, they will get an advantage over your race! When are you gonna get your big break!?!

    One question, if Trump has made everything great again, why would you need help?

  57. [57] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Poor little Trumpkin...

    Actually, there is a simple new rule we're trying very hard to promote here which is that when making a comment or point or posing a question we refrain from the childish tactic of name-calling.

    Hoping we can count on your support, Russ!

  58. [58] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Moron...

    :-(

  59. [59] 
    John M wrote:

    [6] Michale

    "Halfway around the world, Iran announced that it had breached the limits on enriched uranium contained in the Iran deal that Trump walked away from, and that furthermore the next step would be to move to much more highly-enriched uranium.

    If you HONESTLY believe that Iran hasn't been enriching uranium the whole time..

    I have some swampland here in FL I wanna sell you.. :D"

    You must own a lot of swampland yourself then.

    Iran WASN'T enriching uranium the whole time. That's what the whole point of international inspections under the agreement was about. International inspectors repeatedly certified that Iran was abiding by the agreement until the USA broke it by pulling out of it.

    But now that Trump has pulled the USA out of the agreement that was WORKING, you just can't admit that you were wrong and that Trump has just made the whole situation a whole lot worse, without having any coherent back up plan that everyone from the American people to our international partners can support that is effective.

    “It is curious how often you humans manage to obtain that which you do not want.” - SPOCK, Star Trek

  60. [60] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    John,

    Assuming there will be a new POTUS elected in November, what do you think the new president should do with respect to Iran?

  61. [61] 
    TheStig wrote:

    Kick-2

    It's easy to see how Trump's speech went off the rails.

    the "fatal" intended phrase was ..."Continental Congress created a unified army out of the revolutionary forces encamped around Boston and New York and named the great George Washington, commander-in-chief." Trump inserted a superfluous "great" immediately after the word the "named"...probably because he doesn't read well...and hadn't practiced much...if at all. An alarm bell goes off in his head and he starts to paraphrase a recovery on the fly. This puts him out of sync with the prompter and the rest is comedy fools gold as he riffs his way into a classic Trump Word Salad composed of sliced & diced pieces of the original script, plus filler,in no particular order.

    I would hope the Disney people reprogram their Robo Trump with this excerpt from the 2019 4th o' July speech. I'm confident the Imagineers can devise a grand finale where monkeys magically fly out of his butt.

    I would wait an hour or two in line to see that.

  62. [62] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Does anyone see the disconnect between [60] and [61]?

    And, I'm not talking about the different subject matter. Well ... in a way, I am.

  63. [63] 
    Michale wrote:

    Most & Least Federally Dependent States

    I was referring to response to natural disasters, not every day aid..

    But, nice try... :D

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    JM,

    Iran WASN'T enriching uranium the whole time.

    Yea?? How do you know?? Because they said so!?

    BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Your claim is unsupported by facts..

    But now that Trump has pulled the USA out of the agreement that was WORKING, you just can't admit that you were wrong and that Trump has just made the whole situation a whole lot worse, without having any coherent back up plan that everyone from the American people to our international partners can support that is effective.

    I won't admit it because it is not factually accurate..

    Iran is much worse off today than they would be if the JCPOA was never implemented..

    Consequently, the region AND the world are better off..

    You just can't admit that Obama scroo'ed the pooch when he fellated Iran with billions and billions of dollars..

  65. [65] 
    Michale wrote:

    Moron...

    :-(

    Sorry, Liz.. But anyone who does what Jussie Smollett did can ONLY be classified as a Moron...

    Not wanting to name-call doesn't preclude that the FACTS will still be stated..

  66. [66] 
    Michale wrote:

    AOC fires back after Pelosi blasts far-left Dems’ ‘Twitter world’

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez fired back Saturday night after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi criticized her and other far-left freshmen congresswomen for voting against a $4.6 billion border bill that President Trump signed into law on Monday.

    Congress had approved the bill with help from moderate Democrats – and in a New York Times interview Pelosi slammed the progressive wing of her party for not also supporting the humanitarian-assistance measure.

    “All these people have their public whatever and their Twitter world,” Pelosi said. “But they didn’t have any following. They’re four people and that’s how many votes they got.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-fires-back-after-pelosi-blasts-far-left-dems-twitter-world

    Blue on Blue... Civil War!!!

    Love it!! :D

  67. [67] 
    Michale wrote:

    Does anyone see the disconnect between [60] and [61]?

    And, I'm not talking about the different subject matter. Well ... in a way, I am.

    Yep...

    People are still underestimating President Trump..

    That's why Democrats will lose again in 2020, just like they did in 2016..

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    Antifa tries to disrupt ‘Demand Free Speech’ event in DC, reports say

    Members of Antifa clashed with police Saturday after attempting to disrupt a “Demand Free Speech” rally on Saturday in Washington, D.C., according to reports.

    Several members of the far-left group were seen trying to grab “Make America Great Again” hats off the heads of supporters of President Trump, the Washington Times reported.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifa-tries-to-disrupt-demand-free-speech-event-in-dc-reports-say

    And the condemnation from the left??

    ZIP... ZERO... NADA... NONE....

    Once again.. Left Wingers don't mind hate and violence.. As long as it's directed towards the RIGHT people..

    :eyeroll:

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    Just like at Chancellorsville....

    While the morning started in a calm fashion, the protests became more and more intense.
    Antifa protesters were seen rushing a police barricade on Pennsylvania Avenue and 12th Street NW. A masked antifa protester was seen attempting to snatch a “MAGA” hat from a Trump supporter who crossed into the All Out DC side of Saturday’s protests.

    https://wtop.com/dc/2019/07/rival-far-right-far-left-protests-get-heated-near-white-house/slide/1/

    Left Wing/Democrat terrorists of the AntiFa instigate violence...

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    Michelle Obama talks relationships, time in the White House and what she tells her daughters

    When King asked if Obama had any thoughts about the dust-up between former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Kamala Harris, she said "I do not."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/michelle-obama-interview-gayle-king-exclusive-talks-to-former-first-lady-live-stream-2019-07-06/

    Guess Biden is not going to get the Obama endorsement.. :^/

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    IRAN STEPS UP NUCLEAR VIOLATIONS; STEINITZ: TEHRAN MARCHING TOWARD BOMB
    "Iran has begun... to raise, to break out of the uranium enrichment curbs that were imposed on it," Steinitz told Israel's Ynet TV.

    https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Iran-reduces-commitment-to-2015-nuclear-deal-594836

    Iran confirms what everyone who is NOT a Trump/America hater already knew..

    Iran is striving for a nuclear arsenal...

    And, thanx to the time and $150 Billion given to Iran courtesy of Obama and the Democrats, Iran is a lot closer to realizing that dream....

    Thanx Obama.. Thanx Democrats... :^/

  72. [72] 
    TheStig wrote:

    Liz-62

    Just for the record, what do of Triumph, "The Insult Comedian Dog?"

  73. [73] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It may be time for retirement, no?

  74. [74] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Iran is striving for a nuclear arsenal...

    Of COURSE they are! You and the golden genius there can be so thick.

    Of course what would never occur to either of you is that Trump caused it.

  75. [75] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Donald Trump 'inept' and 'dysfunctional', UK ambassador to US says

    Well, so much for stunning our allies with genius.

  76. [76] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Your quote from Biden's op-ed on migration from Latin America:

    "Last week gave us more evidence that President Trump’s morally bankrupt re-election strategy relies on vilifying immigrants to score political points while implementing policies that ensure asylum seekers and refugees keep arriving at our border."

    I can't get past that..President Trump's is solely and completely and unequivocally concentrating on ILLEGAL immigrants..President Trump has never vilified LEGAL immigrants..As long as Biden can't debate the REAL issue (ILLEGAL immigrants) he will never be factually accurate..
    The issue is, was and always has been.. the ILLEGAL immigrants.. The criminals...

    Okay, Michale, this is one of the things I am frustrated about when it comes to Biden explaining something. He often leaves things out, like the word 'illegal'. :)

    His entire op-ed is about illegal immigrants so he was talking about the real issues having to do with illegal immigrants and asylum seekers, just as he spoke about them with Chris Cuomo on CNN in a very Bidenesque lengthy, wide-reaching interview.

    As you know, he is NOT for decriminalizing illegal border crossings.

    You had to read past the first paragraph you quoted to realize he was talking primarily about illegal immigrants and how Trump's policies are counterproductive.

    I hope you read the rest and let me know what you think, knowing now as you do, that it's about US policy toward the crisis at your southern border, among other things such as the Dreamers and what he would do about that.

    And, when you read it, I hope you won't go off assuming things about it that are just wrong like most everybody else with anything Biden says or writes. It's like long comment, as long as our comment are sometimes, we just can say everything, and people go off assuming things they shouldn't!!!

  77. [77] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    [75],

    Yesterday's news.

  78. [78] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    CONGRATULATIONS TO THE US WOMEN ON THEIR BIG WIN TO REMAIN WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS!!!

    Next big win will see them get paid what they're worth.

  79. [79] 
    neilm wrote:

    Rose Lavelle for President 2020.

  80. [80] 
    neilm wrote:

    And equal pay for the USWNT.

    Rose Lavelle's goal was one of the best I've seen for years, and to do it with the pressure of a World Cup Final is true spirit.

    I don't even know if I can watch the USMNT play Mexico tonight - they've been dragging through every game.

  81. [81] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    If Donald were smart he'd make the women get paid to equal the men, then dare them not to show up at the white house to commemorate the change.

  82. [82] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    I didn't watch.

    Do the women take off their shirts and run around the field when they win like the men do?

    If so, they should get paid more.

  83. [83] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    There is no reason whatsoever why the women soccer players should be paid exactly the same as the men. Professional athletes, as with ALL people in the entertainment business, should be paid on the basis of how many butts they attract in the seats.

    The fact that they're playing the same sport has no relevance whatsoever to the pay levels between men and women. They should both get paid based on how much gate revenue they generate.

  84. [84] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale [69]

    Just like at Chancellorsville....

    So I should expect to read about a peaceful protester being killed by an extremist, right?

    A masked antifa protester was seen attempting to snatch a “MAGA” hat from a Trump supporter who crossed into the All Out DC side of Saturday’s protests.

    Someone tried to grab the cap off of a far-right protester’s head when he ignored the line the police had set up to separate the two groups and crossed into the far-left’s side. THAT is what you are clutching your pearls in horror over?!?

    You have the gall to equate someone ALMOST losing their cap when they crossed Into the other side’s area to a peace protester being mowed down and killed by a white supremacist in his vehicle!?! Someone knocking your cap off your head when you rush into an area you are not supposed to be in is the same as being brutally murdered for exercising your right to protest?

    Wow, a gentle breeze must feel like a million razor blades slicing into you with skin so thin and fragile, you poor thing!

  85. [85] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    If Donald were smart he'd make the women get paid to equal the men, then dare them not to show up at the white house to commemorate the change.

    Oh, indeed! It would take too long for the WH to come up with something as special as that, if ever. You should send them an email, Joshua, or just call the WH. Seriously.

  86. [86] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    CRS[83],

    Shocking. Positively shocking.

  87. [87] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @liz

    maybe michale will do it.

    @crs,

    this may come as a shock to you but the uswnt generate more revenue and garner higher TV ratings than the us men, but get paid less ONLY because they are women. Still ok with that or do you have a reason that is true?

    JL

  88. [88] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    poet [87]

    This may come as a shock to YOU, but I don't follow women's soccer (or mens either for that matter), so I have no reason to be shocked. I have not the slightest idea how much revenue any of them generate.

    But pls explain to me what the hell anything you said has to do with my contention that all athletes should be paid based on how many tickets they sell?

    If it's true that the women generate more revenue than do the man, then according to my [83], they should be paid accordingly, and if they're not, then they're being cheated.

    If you didn't glean that fact from my [83], maybe you should read it again. It's not that long.

  89. [89] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Liz M

    What's REALLY SHOCKING is that you can find anything in my [83] that justifies you being shocked!

    But scariest and most revelatory of all is that I'm NOT shocked that you ARE shocked! Clearly, economic stuff, even the most rudimentary, sails right over your head.

  90. [90] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    If it's true that the women generate more revenue than do the man, then according to my [83], they should be paid accordingly, and if they're not, then they're being cheated.

    glad we're in agreement.

  91. [91] 
    chaszzzbrown wrote:

    [88] CRS

    If it's true that the women generate more revenue than do the man, then according to my [83], they should be paid accordingly, and if they're not, ...

    Yah, that's the thing...

    then they're being cheated.

    So, the surprising part to me is: you seem to imply there should be some sort permissible action by the state to address this sort of "cheating", or... ?

  92. [92] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Ah, that was sarcasm, CRS. Are you a Bond fan?

  93. [93] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    maybe michale will do it.

    Ha!

  94. [94] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    What's REALLY SHOCKING is that you can find anything in my [83] that justifies you being shocked!

    Precisely.

  95. [95] 
    Michale wrote:

    Balthy,

    Of course what would never occur to either of you is that Trump caused it.

    My gods, man.. You are so in the grips of HHPTDS...

    Iran has been going for nukes since Donald Trump was a Democrat!!!

    And YOU claim "It's all Trump's fault"!!!!?????

    You are so far gone, it's pitiful...

  96. [96] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, so much for stunning our allies with genius.

    So???

    Another Trump/America hater says something mean about President Trump..

    Obviously not much of an "ally" is he??

    He's just still mad that we kicked the Brits in their asses out of our country some odd hundreds of years ago...

    But, of course, YOU love it.. That's because you are a Trump/America hater too..

  97. [97] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Okay, Michale, this is one of the things I am frustrated about when it comes to Biden explaining something. He often leaves things out, like the word 'illegal'. :)

    Yea.. It frustrates me when EVERYONE on the Left does it..

    But it also heartens me because it's a concession that they don't have a factual rebuttal to the REAL argument, so they have to make up a fantasy argument and then try and rebut THAT..

    As you know, he is NOT for decriminalizing illegal border crossings.

    I know you have said he isn't.. I don't really think he is..

    But I have yet to find any factual indication that he has refuted and disavowed the plan to decriminalize immigration crimes and create Open Border...

    If you have any links you can pass along that would show Biden doing that, I would LOVE to see them...

  98. [98] 
    Michale wrote:

    Russ,

    You have the gall to equate someone ALMOST losing their cap when they crossed Into the other side’s area to a peace protester being mowed down and killed by a white supremacist in his vehicle!?!

    In Chancellorsville, AntiFa started the violence LONG before the Antifa terrorist was run over by the white supremacist asshole..

    As a matter of fact, if AntiFa hadn't been there (they had no permit to gather) then the AntiFa terrorist who was killed would still be alive..

    So, it's perfectly factual and logical to conclude that AntiFa is responsible for their comrade's death...

  99. [99] 
    Michale wrote:

    this may come as a shock to you but the uswnt generate more revenue and garner higher TV ratings than the us men, but get paid less ONLY because they are women. Still ok with that or do you have a reason that is true?

    If you have any facts to support your claim, then I would definitely consider CRS is wrong...

  100. [100] 
    Michale wrote:

    Let's play a game..

    An actor, a woman, a newcomer to the business, has the leading role in a movie..

    An actor, a man, with hundreds of movies and dozens of academy awards under his belt, has a bit part in the same movie..

    The woman is paid $500,000 for her starring role..

    The man is paid $10,000,000 for his bit part...

    Fair??? Not fair???

    Hell, we don't have to even play a game..

    In 1978 Margot Kidder, the female star of SUPERMAN was paid $400,000. She worked a year and a half on the role and was on screen all but minutes...

    Marlon Brando spent 3 weeks on his role as Jor El and had maybe 20 mins of screen time..

    Brando was paid 3.7 million..

    Fair?? Not Fair???

    The problem with those who scream hysterically EQUAL WORK, EQUAL PAY!!! are simply using the wrong formula..

    It's not Equal Work = Equal Pay...

    It's Work + Experience + Name Recognition = Pay

  101. [101] 
    Michale wrote:

    If you have any facts to support your claim, then I would definitely consider CRS is wrong...

    Of course CRS is NOT wrong about his claim that whoever puts butts in the seats should get paid more..

    It's Work + Experience + Name Recognition = Pay

    At least, that's the formula for Hollywood pay...

    Other fields also have similar formulas

    I have yet to read ANY facts that conclusively prove women are paid less **SOLELY** because they are woman.. Without any other mitigating factor..

    The BEST example of this is the US Military...

    An Male E-9 makes more than an Female E-3, even if they do the exact same work.. Just as a Female E-9 would make more than a Male E-3.....

    Gender has NOTHING to do with pay discrepancies..

    Any pay discrepancy can easily be explained logically and rationally once all the facts are known..

  102. [102] 
    Michale wrote:

    "I am not going to the fucking White House.”
    -Megan Rapinoe

    Another classy Trump/America hater... :^/

  103. [103] 
    Michale wrote:

    Festival charges double ticket price for 'non-people of colour'

    The controversial pricing plan has led to one artist pulling out of the event, saying she was "enraged" by the policy.
    https://news.sky.com/story/festival-charges-double-ticket-price-for-non-people-of-colour-11758249

    This explains the Democrat Party's racist stance perfectly...

  104. [104] 
    Michale wrote:

    Starbucks apologizes to police after six officers were asked to leave Arizona store
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-starbucks-arizona-police/starbucks-apologizes-to-police-after-six-officers-were-asked-to-leave-arizona-store-idUSKCN1U20I9

    And THIS explains the Democrat Party's cop-hating stance perfectly as well....

  105. [105] 
    Michale wrote:

    House Passes Senate Border Bill in Striking Defeat for Pelosi
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/us/politics/border-funding-immigration.html

    President Trump says "JUMP" and Pelosi says on the way up, "HOW HIGH SIR!!??"

    So much winning!!!

    And now.. I am not tired of it!! :D

  106. [106] 
    Michale wrote:

    WASHINGTON — Congress sent President Trump a $4.6 billion humanitarian aid package on Thursday after Speaker Nancy Pelosi capitulated to Republicans and Democratic moderates and dropped her insistence on stronger protections for migrant children in overcrowded border shelters.

    The vote came after a striking display of Democratic disunity and was a setback for Ms. Pelosi. Until Thursday, she had proved adept at navigating the complexities of a caucus rived by powerful progressive and moderate factions that often work at cross purposes. But their priorities clashed, the liberal flank was vanquished and the speaker — who had put her reputation on the line, calling herself a “lioness” out to protect children as she held out for stronger protections in the migrant facilities that house them — grudgingly had to accept defeat.

    The final vote, 305 to 102, included far more Republicans in favor, 176, than Democrats, 129. It left House liberals furious.

    So much winning for President Trump and America... :D

  107. [107] 
    Michale wrote:

    For those who claimed victory on the census citizenship question???

    President Donald Trump said last week that he was "very seriously" considering an executive order to get the question on the form. The government has already started to print the census questionnaire without the question.

    Prepare to concede ANOTHER defeat... :D

  108. [108] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrat Civil War!!! :D

    Omar fires back after Pelosi calls out far-left Dems who voted against border bill
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-aoc-fire-back-after-pelosi-calls-out-far-left-dems-voting-against-border-bill

    "Excellent..."
    -Mr Burns

  109. [109] 
    Michale wrote:

    CrowdStrikeOut: Mueller’s Own Report Undercuts Its Core Russia-Meddling Claims

    But a close examination of the report shows that none of those headline assertions are supported by the report’s evidence or other publicly available sources. They are further undercut by investigative shortcomings and the conflicts of interest of key players involved:

    The report uses qualified and vague language to describe key events, indicating that Mueller and his investigators do not actually know for certain whether Russian intelligence officers stole Democratic Party emails, or how those emails were transferred to WikiLeaks.

    The report's timeline of events appears to defy logic. According to its narrative, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange announced the publication of Democratic Party emails not only before he received the documents but before he even communicated with the source that provided them.

    There is strong reason to doubt Mueller’s suggestion that an alleged Russian cutout called Guccifer 2.0 supplied the stolen emails to Assange.
    Mueller’s decision not to interview Assange – a central figure who claims Russia was not behind the hack – suggests an unwillingness to explore avenues of evidence on fundamental questions.

    U.S. intelligence officials cannot make definitive conclusions about the hacking of the Democratic National Committee computer servers because they did not analyze those servers themselves. Instead, they relied on the forensics of CrowdStrike, a private contractor for the DNC that was not a neutral party, much as “Russian dossier” compiler Christopher Steele, also a DNC contractor, was not a neutral party. This puts two Democrat-hired contractors squarely behind underlying allegations in the affair – a key circumstance that Mueller ignores.

    Further, the government allowed CrowdStrike and the Democratic Party's legal counsel to submit redacted records, meaning CrowdStrike and not the government decided what could be revealed or not regarding evidence of hacking.

    Mueller’s report conspicuously does not allege that the Russian government carried out the social media campaign. Instead it blames, as Mueller said in his closing remarks, "a private Russian entity" known as the Internet Research Agency (IRA).

    Mueller also falls far short of proving that the Russian social campaign was sophisticated, or even more than minimally related to the 2016 election. As with the collusion and Russian hacking allegations, Democratic officials had a central and overlooked hand in generating the alarm about Russian social media activity.

    John Brennan, then director of the CIA, played a seminal and overlooked role in all facets of what became Mueller’s investigation: the suspicions that triggered the initial collusion probe; the allegations of Russian interference; and the intelligence assessment that purported to validate the interference allegations that Brennan himself helped generate. Yet Brennan has since revealed himself to be, like CrowdStrike and Steele, hardly a neutral party -- in fact a partisan with a deep animus toward Trump.

    None of this means that the Mueller report's core finding of "sweeping and systematic" Russian government election interference is necessarily false. But his report does not present sufficient evidence to substantiate it. This shortcoming has gone overlooked in the partisan battle over two more highly charged aspects of Mueller's report: potential Trump-Russia collusion and Trump's potential obstruction of the resulting investigation. As Mueller prepares to testify before House committees later this month, the questions surrounding his claims of a far-reaching Russian influence campaign are no less important. They raise doubts about the genesis and perpetuation of Russiagate and the performance of those tasked with investigating it.
    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html

    A week from Weds, Mueller is going to be on the hot seat.. With Democrats right there beside him... :D

  110. [110] 
    Michale wrote:

    The above Mueller article is quite long, but VERY in depth...

    If someone totally unfamiliar with this saga read the Mueller report and then this investigative follow-up, they would be like, "Who in their right mind could fall for this bullshit of Russia Collusion!!!???"

  111. [111] 
    Michale wrote:

    AntiFa Terrorists..

    https://d24fkeqntp1r7r.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/06221852/antifa.jpg

    The assault force of the Democrat Party... :eyeroll:

  112. [112] 
    Michale wrote:

    Masked protesters known simultaneously as the “black bloc” (because they wear black clothes and hoods to mask their identities) and “antifa” (as in anti-fascist) smashed the windows of a local Starbucks and a Bank of America. They also set a limousine on fire. How these acts of property damage were intended to undermine Trump remains a mystery, given that the CEO of Starbucks and many Bank of America employees were financial supporters of the Hillary Clinton campaign. The limo driver, we learned, was a Muslim immigrant.

    Democrats :eyeroll:

  113. [113] 
    Michale wrote:

    In any case, the idea that certain people do not deserve free speech protections is now as popular among the far left as it always was among the far right. But it didn’t use to be this way: Leftists were once firm defenders of free speech for all, even for Nazis. Amazingly, in fact, when the Nazis came to campus in the 1960s, they did so at the left’s invitation.

    Irony of ironies... :^/

  114. [114] 
    Michale wrote:

    “It’s disappointing that Senator Harris chose to distort Vice President Biden’s position on busing — particularly now that she is tying herself in knots trying not to answer the very question she posed to him!”
    -Biden Campaign Manager

    Nothing but campaign opportunism and hypocrisy...

    Harris is the quintessential Democrat..

    That's NOT a compliment....

  115. [115] 
    Michale wrote:

    WORST.... WEEK..... EVER..... in 47 years.. :D

    Not since the 1972 discovery that George McGovern’s vice presidential pick, Thomas Eagleton, had been hospitalized and given electroshock treatments have the Democrats had a worse week than the one we just concluded.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/06/democrats-had-worst-week-47-years/

    Dunno if the Democrat Party can handle this much losing.. :D

  116. [116] 
    Michale wrote:

    Soon afterward, Michael Avenatti, the lawyer now facing criminal charges in three cases, produced an affidavit from another accuser, Julie Swetnick. She claimed to have attended more than 10 house parties in the early 1980s at which Kavanaugh and a friend became inebriated and sexually assaulted women, and got them drunk so they could be gang-raped.

    Hemingway and Severino call the allegations “obviously ridiculous,” saying “no one could have hidden such crimes for decades, much less a man who went on to hold high-profile positions in the White House and then became a judge on the second-most prominent federal court.” Kavanaugh said the charges were from “the Twilight Zone.”

    When NBC’s Kate Snow interviewed Swetnick, the network acknowledged that some of her comments on camera “differ from her written statement last week.” Swetnick backed off from saying Kavanaugh had spiked the punch, recalling only that he had handed out the punch. More important, she dropped her claim that Kavanaugh was present at her rape, saying only that she had seen him earlier at the same party.

    “Despite Swetnick’s obvious credibility problems, many in the media continued to air her accusations,” the book says.

    There was more: Avenatti gave NBC the name of a secret supporting witness, but refused to share it with the Senate Judiciary Committee. But when the woman totally undercut Swetnick’s account—blaming Avenatti for twisting her words—the network sat on the story for awhile.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-team-held-back-dirt-on-kavanaugh-accuser-new-book-says

    One of the most shameful episode in recent Democrat Party history replete with shameful episodes...

    Not to mention here in Weigantia....

  117. [117] 
    Michale wrote:

    Christine Pelosi warns it's 'quite likely that some of our faves are implicated' in 'horrific' Epstein case

    Christine Pelosi, a Democratic National Committee official and daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, warned conspicuously on Saturday evening that it is "quite likely that some of our faves are implicated" in the "horrific" sex-trafficking case against politically connected financier Jeffrey Epstein.

    Epstein is due in court following his sudden arrest Saturday in New York on new sex-trafficking charges involving allegations dating to the early 2000s, according to law enforcement officials. He has been accused of paying underage girls for massages and sexually abusing them at his mansion in Palm Beach, Fla., and in New York City. His 72-acre private estate on the Virgin Islands, a home said to be nicknamed "Orgy Island," also has been under scrutiny.

    "This Epstein case is horrific and the young women deserve justice," Pelosi tweeted. "It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may - whether on Republicans or Democrats."

    It was unclear exactly to whom Pelosi was referring, but Epstein has long been connected with high-profile figures, including Britain's Prince Andrew and former President Bill Clinton. Court documents obtained by Fox News in 2016 showed that Clinton took at least 26 trips flying aboard Epstein's private jet, known as the "Lolita Express," and apparently ditched his Secret Service detail on some of the excursions. Records showed that President Trump may have flown on the jet at least once.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/christine-pelosi-jeffrey-epstein-democrats-faves-implicated

    Bill Clinton is going down...

    The reign of the Clinton dynasty will be taken down...

  118. [118] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Deputy Sheriff Omar Diaz
    Harris County Sheriff's Office, Texas
    End of Watch: Saturday, July 6, 2019

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c1f544ea7b54a58eeb922b13ed887fee999c194c40e07aed62a98eda2ef6593.jpg

  119. [119] 
    Michale wrote:

    Facts and reality are sinking in.. :D

    Liz Peek: Democrats confront the unthinkable -- Trump’s reelection

    Democrats and their liberal media pals are in full panic mode as it dawns on them: Donald Trump could actually win reelection.

    Despite fielding an unprecedented number of would-be candidates, Democrats have so far failed to find a standard-bearer likely to unify their party. As the recent debates showed, the party has moved left, and further left still, leaving the majority of Americans behind as they try to placate Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez and other noisy progressives.

    At the same time, the better-than-expected June jobs report confirms the economy remains strong, dampening ceaseless speculation (and left-wing hope) about a pending recession. Meanwhile, relentless hounding of the president by his political foes has had zero impact on his popularity among Republicans. If anything, the unimaginable vitriol has further hardened his support.

    Maybe the intelligentsia is not so intelligent after all.

    The liberal media is working feverishly to undermine the president, critical of his every move. They tell us that his venturing into North Korea to shake hands with Kim Jong Un delivered a “propaganda win” to the Korean dictator. To whom? To the oppressed citizens of that miserable country who have been told their noble leader’s father was so pure that he never needed to defecate? Or that he scored 11 holes-in-one in his first round of golf? We’re worried about feeding that absurd propaganda machine?

    Most Americans likely saw Trump’s move as characteristically gutsy and unconventional, but also a gesture that might someday bear fruit. Moreover, many saw it as a refreshing departure from the uber-cautious foreign policy of the Obama years.

    Democrats and their media pals were also churlish about the president’s Fourth of July celebration in Washington. The New York Times described it as a “made-for-television production starring America’s military weaponry” and Democrats said parading tanks in the nation’s capital was the hallmark of a tyrant. Please don’t tell President Emmanuel Macron; it was the Bastille Day parade in democratic France, complete with military hardware, that inspired Trump’s celebration.

    It says something that the press was rhapsodic about the Pride Parade in New York but could not find anything good to say about a parade celebrating our nation’s military.

    Here’s the bitter truth for Democrats: the unending slamming of the president is not working. It was announced last week that President Trump and the Republican National Committee have raised $105 million for his reelection bid, far surpassing the amounts raised by any predecessor or by any Democrat hoping to unseat him.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/liz-peek-democrats-confront-the-unthinkable-trumps-reelection

    Democrats simply CAN'T win against President Trump..

    As I have said again and again.. Some might even say ad nasuem.. :D

    Democrats' best course of action is to cede 2020 and put all their efforts into 2024 where they won't have to run against President Trump...

  120. [120] 
    Michale wrote:

    There was a time when being pro-America was a given for politicians in both main parties. Of course, President Reagan put it beautifully when he talked of a "shining city on a hill." But I also loved Bill Clinton's great line, "There's nothing wrong with America that can't be fixed by what's right with America"

    But this past week, this July 4, we saw that those days are gone. Yes, we still have a Republican president who, like Ronald Reagan, is obviously proud of America and happy to say it, to celebrate it. But today's Democrats? No. They're embarrassed by America, far from celebrating America. They want to tear it down and turn it into something else.

    That was the background for President Trump's "Salute to America" on Independence Day. The Democrats couldn't wait to attack it.

    "Donald Trump, I believe, is incapable of celebrating what makes America great because I don't think he gets it," former Vice President Joe Biden said.

    Okay. Here's some of what the president actually said:

    President Trump: Together, we are part of one of the greatest stories ever told: The story of America ... It is the spirit, daring and defiance, excellence and adventure, courage and confidence, loyalty and love that built this country into the most exceptional nation in the history of the world, and our nation is stronger today than it ever was before.

    I think you'll find, Joe China, that President Trump "gets" what makes America great better than a knackered old swamp creature who took billions of dollars in bribes in the form of payments to his family businesses from America's No. 1 enemy. You are the last person to lecture anyone on patriotism. #JoeChina!

    But it wasn't just Biden. It was all of them. "How dare you celebrate America" cried the left. "It's not who we are."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E

  121. [121] 
    neilm wrote:

    In more "Everything Trump Touches Turns to Crap" news:

    1. U.S. Steel is taking a complete thrashing despite getting the tariffs (i.e. new taxes on Americans) they asked for. It turns out that there is overcapacity and their mills are far less efficient than e.g. Nucor's

    2. The auto industry, already suffering from higher steel prices in the U.S. (see [1]) has overproduced and inventory is building up at dealers. Note that auto sales are reported by dealers *buying* cars from the manufacturers, not consumers buying cars from the dealers, so the downturn is building up.

    3. The car manufacturers are likely to slow production, leading to an even greater overcapacity in steel, and yet lower prices for U.S. Steel.

    4. Everything Trump touches turns to crap. He is totally clueless about the modern economy, and frankly, the modern World - make 1950 great again is failing as predicted.

  122. [122] 
    neilm wrote:
  123. [123] 
    Michale wrote:

    #121 Whine

    And yet, the majority of Americans approve of President Trump's handling of the economy according to RCP...

    So, on the one hand we have your incredibly bigoted opinion..

    On the other hand, we have the poll of polls saying the majority of Americans approve..

    Tough call.. :D

    President Trump is going to coast to re-election..

    You need to accept this fact...

  124. [124] 
    neilm wrote:

    On the other hand, we have the poll of polls saying the majority of Americans approve..

    Can you point me to the polls that show people are happy with the state of U.S. Steel - i.e. what I was talking about.

    If we are talking about Trump's popularity, the vast majority of people, also according to RCP, disapprove of him.

  125. [125] 
    Michale wrote:

    UK regrets leak of memos calling Trump administration 'inept'
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-britain/uk-minister-to-apologize-to-ivanka-trump-for-ambassadors-leaked-memos-idUSKCN1U30PA

    The Brits now have to grovel before the Trump Administration..

    Love it!! :D

  126. [126] 
    Michale wrote:

    Can you point me to the polls that show people are happy with the state of U.S. Steel - i.e. what I was talking about.

    Yea.. You cherry pick a bad example and try to paint the entire President Trump economy with that ONE example..

    Whereas I put out the mood of the American people over the WHOLE economy.. And the majority of Americans approve...

    If we are talking about Trump's popularity, the vast majority of people, also according to RCP, disapprove of him.

    We're talking President Trump's work on the economy and the majority of Americans approve..

    In other words, when ya'all claimed that President Trump would destroy the US economy ya'all were WRONG....

    *****AGAIN*****

  127. [127] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    So, on the one hand we have your incredibly bigoted opinion..

    So now Bloomburg is bigoted? Sorta like Trump calling out Faux this morning. Seems that only a small number of folks are capable of discerning the twists and turns of the Trump presidency...

  128. [128] 
    Michale wrote:

    So now Bloomburg is bigoted?

    It's not Bloomberg's opinion..

    It's Neil's..

    And yes, it's clearly based on hatred and bigotry..

    Seems that only a small number of folks are capable of discerning the twists and turns of the Trump presidency...

    Nope.. Patriotic Americans can easily follow the President..

    It doesn't surprise me you have problems..

  129. [129] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Patriotic Americans can easily follow the President..

    Then what's wrong with FN? And why did Neilm's recitation of the Bloomburg 'facts' constitute opinion?

  130. [130] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Deputy Sheriff Nicholas Dixon
    Hall County Sheriff's Office, Georgia
    End of Watch: Sunday, July 7, 2019

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13839e8d10b9303c8d9aee50576e15b15f4844be91d15073a21097a85b780c50.jpg

  131. [131] 
    Michale wrote:

    And why did Neilm's recitation of the Bloomburg 'facts' constitute opinion?

    THAT didn't..

    Everything Trump touches turns to crap. He is totally clueless about the modern economy, and frankly, the modern World - make 1950 great again is failing as predicted.

    This did..

    Duh....

  132. [132] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Hmm..that's true, but okay..

    How about Trump's attacks on Fox News?

  133. [133] 
    Michale wrote:

    How about Trump's attacks on Fox News?

    What about it?

    Wasn't the first.. Won't be the last..

    Big woop...

    It's as relevant and meaningful when a Democrat attacks HuffPo or WaPo or CNN...

  134. [134] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Oh, so it doesn't mean anything. Same as when he attacks CNN.

  135. [135] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh, so it doesn't mean anything. Same as when he attacks CNN.

    It "means" as much as when a Democrat attacks WaPo or HuffPoo or CNN...

    What does it mean to you??

  136. [136] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,
    Is there evidence that Heather heyer was a member of antifa?
    JL

  137. [137] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Comments over 100 should be relegated to their own special blog space, no?

  138. [138] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yeah, I know …. just after we get the edit function, time-limited edit function, of course. Heh.

  139. [139] 
    Michale wrote:

    Is there evidence that Heather heyer was a member of antifa?

    Yes.. She was dressed all in black on day she was killed..

    AntiFa members attended her memorial service..

  140. [140] 
    Michale wrote:

    'Sides.. If everyone protesting the monument removal was a white supremacist nazi, then everyone protesting against the white supremacist nazis was antifa..

    "What's good for the goose is nobody's business but the ganders'!!"
    -Mr Furley, THREES COMPANY

  141. [141] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    What does it mean to you?

    It means that there's a chink in the armor. It means that even Fox is getting a bit fed up with trying to carry water for this guy.

  142. [142] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    If everyone protesting the monument removal was a white supremacist nazi, then everyone protesting against the white supremacist nazis was antifa..

    And everyone protesting in the US in the 1950's was a communist. I've seen this movie before. It doesn't end well.

  143. [143] 
    Michale wrote:

    It means that there's a chink in the armor.

    So, when a Democrat attacks HuffPoo, you think that THAT is a chink in the Democrat armor??

    It means that even Fox is getting a bit fed up with trying to carry water for this guy.

    Is that what it really means??

    Or is that what you WISH it to mean?? :D

    And everyone protesting in the US in the 1950's was a communist. I've seen this movie before. It doesn't end well.

    It's YOUR guys' movie...

    YOU were the ones saying there were NO good people on the monunments' side and that AntiFa terrorists are "courageous Americans"...

    If you don't like the movie, quit MAKING the frakin' movie!

    DUH...

  144. [144] 
    Michale wrote:

    Barr says he sees a legal path for census citizenship query

    EDGEFIELD, S.C. (AP) — Attorney General William Barr said Monday that he sees a legal path to adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census, despite a Supreme Court ruling that blocked its inclusion, at least temporarily.

    In an interview with The Associated Press, Barr said the Trump administration will take action in the coming days that he believes will allow the government to ask the controversial question. Barr would not detail the administration’s plans, though a senior official said President Donald Trump is expected to issue a presidential memorandum to the Commerce Department instructing it to include the question.
    https://apnews.com/d3455cd57e744af08c5690fe1f0517ae

    Looks like Democrats are going to lose... AGAIN...

    And President Trump and this country are going to WIN.... AGAIN... :D

  145. [145] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Conservation Officer Shannon Barron
    Red Lake Nation Conservation Department, Tribal Police
    End of Watch: Sunday, July 7, 2019

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c1f544ea7b54a58eeb922b13ed887fee999c194c40e07aed62a98eda2ef6593.jpg

  146. [146] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    'Sides.. If everyone protesting the monument removal was a white supremacist nazi, then everyone protesting against the white supremacist nazis was antifa..

    Well, Michale, I don't think you can say that because it isn't always - or perhaps even mostly - true.

    I would happily protest against white supremacists and Nazis and such and I am certainly against fascism and fascists. However, I'm not a member of Antifa and never will be.

    Making assumptions and generalizations can be a foolish proposition.

  147. [147] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    You really must stop equating Democrats with people who want the country to lose.

    That is the kind of attitude that is very bad for your country and will keep it painfully divided on everything forever.

    Can we please start with the premise that Democrats and Republicans and Independents alike as well as everyone in between, up-wing or down-wing wants the country to win. The deep disagreement is in how to achieve that win.

  148. [148] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, Michale, I don't think you can say that because it isn't always - or perhaps even mostly - true.

    It is what the Left said when President Trump made the point that there were good people on both sides of the issue..

    No one here would have ANY of that.. Their side was all good, courageous Americans and the other side was ALL BAD Supremacist Nazis...

    Making assumptions and generalizations can be a foolish proposition.

    And yet, everyone here does that on a DAILY if not HOURLY basis...

    You really must stop equating Democrats with people who want the country to lose.

    I call 'em as I see 'em..

    Can we please start with the premise that Democrats and Republicans and Independents alike as well as everyone in between, up-wing or down-wing wants the country to win.

    Sure.. Just convince everyone else here of it and I'll go along.. I lead the way on the cutsey name-calling..

    Time for them to step up.. :D

  149. [149] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It is what the Left said when President Trump made the point that there were good people on both sides of the issue..

    Michale, there were no fine people present in the group of people carrying torches and chanting Nazi slogans. Period. Period. Period.

    Trump didn't say "on this issue".

  150. [150] 
    Michale wrote:

    Michale, there were no fine people present in the group of people carrying torches and chanting Nazi slogans.

    Not all the people who were there to support the monuments were carrying torches and chanting Nazi slogans..

    THAT's the point..

    Trump didn't say "on this issue".

    This is what President Trump said..

    "Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group -- excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

    If one reads that with an OBJECTIVE eye, it's clear that President Trump did not say ANYTHING of the "Nazis are fine people" sort that people are accusing him of....

  151. [151] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    it's clear that President Trump did not say ANYTHING of the "Nazis are fine people" sort that people are accusing him of....

    Even he wouldn't be that dumb. He didn't mention the fact that there were nazis there at all, as if the march with torches never happened. That's what has most folks dumbfounded. The "fine people on both sides" statement completely left those folks out.

    Sorta like leaving clowns out of your description of a circus.

  152. [152] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Not all the people who were there to support the monuments were carrying torches and chanting Nazi slogans..

    That may be true but then Trump should have made that distinction on any number of occasions.

    On any number of occasions President Trump should have CONDEMNED the white supremacists and neo-Nazis and praised the group standing up against that. He didn't then and he has never done so.

    I don't think we'll ever hear Trump condemn these hate groups until he's no longer afraid to condemn them once he is out of office.

  153. [153] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Balthasar made the point better than I did, Michale.

  154. [154] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale, do you know what question Trump was asked that prompted the response you quoted above?

  155. [155] 
    chaszzzbrown wrote:

    [150] Michale

    See:

    https://thebulwark.com/the-charlottesville-hoax-hoax/

    You should really read the opriginal article, written by a conservative who lives in Charlottesville and who thinks the statues should really not be taken down; but here's an extended excerpt that demolishes your argument (all italicized sections are Trump's words; picking up from the end of the quote you gave):

    You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

    So when he says “very fine people” he is referring to a specific group of protesters, and not only does he keep emphasizing this, but he gets more specific about them.

    But not all of those people were Neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee. [...] But they were there to protest—excuse me. You take a look, the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.

    He keeps going back to this idea that there was a separate group of protesters that weekend in Charlottesville, ordinary people who merely opposed the removal of Lee’s statue, and he keeps giving that group a specific time and place: in Charlottesville “the night before,” that is, the night of Friday, August 11.

    [...]

    And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

    All right, so who are these people who were just there to protest the removal of the statues? Who was the group protesting “the night before”?

    That’s right. The people marching in Charlottesville the night before were the guys with torches chanting “blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us.”

    [...]

    What if there really was another group of protesters there that day, and that’s who Trump was referring to? Well, there’s the problem. No such group exists. This mythical second group of protesters is like the “second shooter” in conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination. I’ve found people who insist to me that such a group was there because the “Charlottesville Hoax” mythology requires it to exist—but I haven’t found a single shred of actual confirmation. It’s almost as if they have adopted a false memory.

    That’s what originally set me off about this Trump claim. I live in the Charlottesville area, and I know very fine people who oppose the removal of the monuments based on high-minded notions about preserving history. I’m one of them. So I know that we weren’t there that night. Only the white nationalists were there.

  156. [156] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale,

    The above Mueller article is quite long, but VERY in depth...

    And filled with total bullshit!

    The DNC servers were not physically removed and taken as evidence because the crime occurred online, not at their physical location! It would be like you calling the police to report online identity theft and the police showing up at your home demanding that you give them your wallet and everything in it — they do not do that because it isn’t evidence!

    The servers were cloned and copies were given to law enforcement investigators. Everything needed to conduct the investigation is included in the cloned copy. But this author counts on their audience not understanding how criminal investigations into online crimes differs from real world investigations, as his lack of questioning law enforcement why they didn’t take the servers as evidence makes clear.

    And how pathetic have you gotten that you cannot dispute the information, so instead attack the investigators’ credibility simply because they were hired to conduct the investigation by Democrats. The information in the Steele dossier has been largely verified by information the US intelligence agencies have received from over 16 foreign intelligence agencies that we consider allies.

    That you claim to support law enforcement but are more than willing to throw the FBI under the bus for properly investigating Trump’s campaign shows how little respect you actually have for law enforcement!

  157. [157] 
    Michale wrote:

    CB,

    You should really read the opriginal article, written by a conservative who lives in Charlottesville and who thinks the statues should really not be taken down; but here's an extended excerpt that demolishes your argument (all italicized sections are Trump's words; picking up from the end of the quote you gave):

    Yes, yes.. You can find Trump/America haters who "interpret" President Trump's words and mind-read what President Trump REALLY meant.

    I just read his words.. And what he said was not what you Trump/America haters says he said...

  158. [158] 
    Michale wrote:

    Balthy,

    Even he wouldn't be that dumb. He didn't mention the fact that there were nazis there at all, as if the march with torches never happened. That's what has most folks dumbfounded. The "fine people on both sides" statement completely left those folks out.

    So, basically you are saying President Trump used "code words" and "dog whistles".. :eyeroll:

    Funny thing about "code words" and "dog whistles"..

    They can mean ANYTHING you WANT them to mean...

    In this case, since you are a Trump/America hater, you WANT them to mean that President Trump supports Nazis.

    :eyeroll:

    Only a MORON would believe that the President Trump supports Nazis..

    Is that you, Balthasar?? Are you a MORON???

  159. [159] 
    Michale wrote:

    That may be true but then Trump should have made that distinction on any number of occasions.

    No distinction was necessary.. It was plain in his words..

    But for those who hate him, they can read into it whatever they want..

    See my response to Balthasar regarding "code words" and "dog whistles"...

    On any number of occasions President Trump should have CONDEMNED the white supremacists and neo-Nazis and praised the group standing up against that. He didn't then and he has never done so.

    Why should he dance to the tune of those who hate him??

    Let's be real, Liz.. If President Trump tried to explain what he really meant, then the haters would just twist THAT into some diabolical meaning..

    NOTHING that President Trump EVER says is good enough for the haters.. Wouldn't you agree?? I mean, honestly.. It's not as if President Trump is dealing with calm, objective and rational people... No matter WHAT President Trump says, it will never appease the haters..

    So, this begs the question.. Why bother trying to appease them??

    Balthasar made the point better than I did, Michale.

    Actually no...

    He made the point no better than you did because it's not a valid point. :D

  160. [160] 
    Michale wrote:

    And filled with total bullshit!

    Of course you would say that.. You still believe that President Trump colluded with the Russians, even though Mueller cleared him of it..

    So, you won't believe ANY facts that prove your fantasy world wrong..

    The DNC servers were not physically removed and taken as evidence because the crime occurred online, not at their physical location!

    Yes, that's what the DNC *CLAIMS*.. Yet, there is evidence that indicates that the servers were physically accessed via a USB port.. The log files of the data xfers indicated a xfer speed that was far FAR beyond anything that was capable of being online.. But the xfer rate *IS* compatible with a USB direct connect xfer rate...

    So, the DNC didn't want the authorities to learn that the DNC servers were LOCALLY accessed.. So, the DNC refused to let authorities examine the servers..

    So much for your claim of "bullshit"... :eyeroll:

  161. [161] 
    Michale wrote:

    And filled with total bullshit!

    Of course you would say that.. You still believe that President Trump colluded with the Russians, even though Mueller cleared him of it..

    So, you won't believe ANY facts that prove your fantasy world wrong..

    The DNC servers were not physically removed and taken as evidence because the crime occurred online, not at their physical location!

    Yes, that's what the DNC *CLAIMS*.. Yet, there is evidence that indicates that the servers were physically accessed via a USB port.. The log files of the data xfers indicated a xfer speed that was far FAR beyond anything that was capable of being online.. But the xfer rate *IS* compatible with a USB direct connect xfer rate...

    So, the DNC didn't want the authorities to learn that the DNC servers were LOCALLY accessed.. So, the DNC refused to let authorities examine the servers..

    So much for your claim of "bullshit"... :eyeroll:

  162. [162] 
    Michale wrote:

    Let's be real, Liz.. If President Trump tried to explain what he really meant, then the haters would just twist THAT into some diabolical meaning..

    I mean, honestly...

    President Trump could achieve full and fair peace in the middle east, have ZERO unemployment here in the US and personally lead the initiative that puts a group of International astronauts on Mars..

    And people would STILL hate him...

    So, do you think it's a wise course or action to always dance to the tune of those people who are so blinded and so hysterical with hate???

    Is there ANY logical or rational reason to try and appease them??

    No..

    President Trump could resign from office today and people, including everyone here, would still attack him, many in the most vile and disgusting ways..

    It makes no logical or rational sense to ask President Trump to try appease those who will NEVER be appeased.. To try and please people who, by virtue of their irrational and hysterical hate, will never be pleased...

    President Trump does the best he can do.. Ignore the haters whenever possible and just do his job..

    Which, considering the state of the economy and the low unemployment and historically low unemployment for teens and minorities...

    Well, he seems to be doing a damn good job..

    A damn sight better than ANY of ya'all thought possible..

    And a damn sight better than ANYONE here will give him credit for..

  163. [163] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You know there is a missing thumb drive that the Clinton campaign put in the mail and it never got to its destination.

    Now, THAT's carelessness. if nothing else. Could it be in the hands of the Russians? Who knows … stranger things have already happened in that regard.

  164. [164] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Unfortunately, President Trump has zero chance of promoting peace in the ME, much less achieve it.

    I base that statement on his past performance which does the opposite of promoting peace.

  165. [165] 
    Michale wrote:

    You know there is a missing thumb drive that the Clinton campaign put in the mail and it never got to its destination.

    Now, THAT's carelessness. if nothing else. Could it be in the hands of the Russians? Who knows … stranger things have already happened in that regard.

    Yep...

    But it's clear from the evidence that the DNC servers were not hacked, but rather accessed locally..

    Which explains why the DNC would not turn over the servers for forensic analysis...

    And, when you consider that Hillary was in de-facto charge of the DNC at the time...

    Well, it all becomes clear..

    Unfortunately, President Trump has zero chance of promoting peace in the ME, much less achieve it.

    I don't agree but that's not my point..

    The point is, if he DID accomplish that, none of the haters would give him any credit for it..

    True?? Or false??

    I base that statement on his past performance which does the opposite of promoting peace.

    Every President in the past decades has said that they would move the US Embassy to Israel's capital, Jerusalem..

    President Trump finally did what past presidents only paid lip service to...

    Good thing??

    The problem with the ME is that one of the players (Palestinians) totally and utterly negate their positions by resorting to terrorism.

    Until the Palestinians stop the terrorism, there will be no peace and Israel will always have a blank check in dealing with the situation up to, but not including, terrorism itself..

    The Palestinians and their support of terrorism are the road blocks to peace..

  166. [166] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    So, the DNC didn't want the authorities to learn that the DNC servers were LOCALLY accessed.. So, the DNC refused to let authorities examine the servers..

    The DNC doesn’t have the authority to dictate to law enforcement what they can take as evidence of a crime and what they cannot! And you’d think that our federal cyber crimes units would be smarter than you when it comes to these things, oh wait, they are smarter than you! Even if they used a USB drive (none of the official reports have mentioned one, from everything I have read), the cloned copy of the server still would provide all of the info needed to conduct the investigation. I am fairly certain that even if someone used a USB drive to hack into the servers, they didn’t leave it in the server when they were done. And if they did, the investigators would only have needed to take the USB drive — not the physical server itself! Funny that Mueller never mentioned not being given access to the DNC’s physical servers as being an obstacle to finding out who hacked it.

  167. [167] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    you’d think that our federal cyber crimes units would be smarter than you when it comes to these things

    Not in Trumpland, where the dumbest guy gets to lead the parade, where the borders are always under attack, and where the Clintonistas run everything!

  168. [168] 
    chaszzzbrown wrote:

    [159]

    >> That may be true but then Trump should have made that distinction on any number of occasions.

    > No distinction was necessary.. It was plain in his words..

    What's "plain in his words" is that he was clearly and repeatedly referring to a specific group of protestors from the day before.

    There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people—neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know—I don’t know if you know, they had a permit.

    Do you deny he said this?

  169. [169] 
    Michale wrote:

    AOC sued over blocking Twitter users, following appeals court ruling on Trump
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-to-face-lawsuit-over-blocking-twitter-users-following-appeals-court-ruling-on-trump

    Apparently, it's OK for Occasional Cortex to block her Twitter users, but it's NOT OK for President Trump to do so...

    The hypocrisy is blatant and disgusting..

  170. [170] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Absolute Best Title Ever

    Especially when I sing it out loud!

  171. [171] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Apparently, it's OK for Occasional Cortex to block her Twitter users, but it's NOT OK for President Trump to do so...

    Once again you prove you are only here to be a troll! AOC and Trump were actually doing the same thing — blocking certain users that they did not want following them. AOC and Trump doing the same thing....it must make your eyes bleed to read that. The court ruled that because Trump uses Twitter as his main way to address the public, citizens have the right to follow him in order to stay informed. AOC is not the president, and courts haven’t ruled that Congress’ use of Twitter must be accessible by all citizens.

  172. [172] 
    Kick wrote:

    TS
    61

    I would hope the Disney people reprogram their Robo Trump with this excerpt from the 2019 4th o' July speech. I'm confident the Imagineers can devise a grand finale where monkeys magically fly out of his butt.

    *laughs* Orangutans, of course. :)

  173. [173] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    62

    Does anyone see the disconnect between [60] and [61]?

    Yes, I do see disconnects:

    1. You failed to notice it was a post to me and not you.

    2. You are once again whining about posts like you told everyone else to stop doing.

    Why can't people just ignore what they don't want to read here by people they don't like without always making a big issue out of it. ~ Elizabeth Miller

    Please allow yourself to stop policing the board. Or are you completely unable to do that? :)

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