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Rampant GOP Incompetence On Full Display

[ Posted Wednesday, July 29th, 2020 – 17:07 UTC ]

Rampant Republican incompetence is now on full display in Washington, once again taking center stage as multiple deadlines approach and measures meant to provide some sort of safety net during the most dire medical emergency in the past 100 years are running out. What's astonishing is that their very incompetence right now might just guarantee that the GOP loses control of the Senate in November -- the very chamber which cannot now get its legislative act together. In other words, it might be an entirely appropriate consequence.

The timeline is a simple one for voters to understand. Several rounds of coronavirus relief bills passed earlier this year, which staved off the worst of the economic collapse (things got very bad indeed, but they could have been a lot worse). This provided a lifeline for millions of American families. In each of these bills, Democrats were told by Republicans that very important issues (such as ensuring the safety of the upcoming election, for instance) "could wait until the next round" and thus got kicked down the road.

Over two months ago, Nancy Pelosi's House of Representatives passed the most recent of these bills, which both built on the previous bills and contained all the provisions which had been previously punted. It passed, with only a single Republican joining in the majority. Again, this happened over two months ago.

Mitch McConnell then publicly announced that he would be ignoring this bill in the Senate, because it was time to "take a pause" to see if the coronavirus would suddenly magically disappear, the way that Donald Trump had been confidently predicting it would all along. So the Senate did absolutely nothing -- for two solid months.

Last week, Mitch finally woke up to reality and decided that he had to somehow get on board with the idea that the country needed more relief. But that metaphor -- "get on board" -- can be extended. Because Mitch had dithered and wasted so much valuable time in the middle of a monstrous crisis, this is now the "last legislative train which will leave the station" until the election. There is simply no more time on the congressional calendar for another bill later, and so close to an election it's doubtful anything could happen anyway. So this is the final bill until at least Thanksgiving -- an important fact to note.

So what did Mitch McConnell and the White House Trump minions do? They then proceeded to waste another whole week. They dithered among themselves, in a breathtaking display of party disunity and rank political incompetence. Rather than invite Democrats into the conversation, Mitch insisted on producing a Republican-only bill in his chamber. This was very tough to do because, astonishingly, there is a significant faction of Senate Republicans who are not even convinced that any bill is even necessary. Mitch and the Trump minions finally (kind of, sort of) threaded this needle -- after wasting a week of everyone's time -- and produced their draft bill.

What happened next is important for context, too. Mitch did not then immediately move the bill to the Senate floor. This would be the standard negotiating tactic in any contentious piece of legislation because it would present Nancy Pelosi with a united front from the Republican Senate -- "OK, you've got your bill, now here's ours. Let's sit down in conference and negotiate a compromise that can pass both houses and be signed into law." That's the "Schoolhouse Rock" version of what should have happened already, in other words.

What prevented Mitch from doing so? The incredibly weak hand he has been dealt. Mitch McConnell knows full well that his GOP-only bill could not get enough votes among his fellow Republicans to pass. He couldn't even muster 50 votes for it, in other words. Even Donald Trump realizes how incredibly weak McConnell's hand is, since Trump just described the entire Republican draft bill as "sort of semi-irrelevant." And you know what? For once, Trump is exactly right.

McConnell's bill is worse than just semi-irrelevant, it is totally irrelevant. If he can't even get enough of his own chamber's Republicans to vote for it, then that is confirmation of what everybody already knew all along -- he's going to need Democratic votes to pass anything. A lot of Democratic votes. And yet he had to waste over a week of everyone's time hammering out his totally irrelevant bill while refusing to even allow Democrats into the conversation. Now he's going to have to do what he should have done two weekends ago (or, more properly, two months ago): sit down with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and negotiate a deal. Except he's not even going to do that now, because he is punting his entire responsibility by letting the White House minions do all the negotiating for him. If he wasn't already, Mitch McConnell has now truly become the poster child for Republican incompetence.

But incompetence isn't limited to the Senate chamber, it's everywhere you look within the Republican Party. Because of Mitch's complete abdication of duty, the White House negotiators are now stuck with the task of reconciling their laughable agenda with the one that Nancy Pelosi already passed through the House over two months ago. Pelosi's got the equivalent of a straight flush in her hand, while they've got a pair of threes. Or even worse, maybe just a poker hand of jack-high.

The White House minions are now pushing a futile idea which is guaranteed to waste even more negotiating time while several clocks are ticking (including federal unemployment payments and the moratorium on evictions). They're trying to turn their sow's ear of incompetence into a silk purse of political opportunism. They have proposed a "skinny" bill which only deals with the items which are about to expire, promising that they'll put everything else in a secondary bill that will be negotiated after they reset all those ticking clocks. Or, to put it another way, it's yet another version of "all this stuff can wait for the next round." Except, as noted, this is the last legislative train leaving the station, and everyone knows it. So this time Democrats are telling the Republicans: "Yeah, we let you get away with that the last three or four times, but that is just not going to happen this time around."

Pelosi, knowing the strength of her bargaining position, is refusing to take this bait. Because she knows full well who will win the political argument which is waiting in the wings over: "People are suffering and it's the other party's fault!" This is pure moose manure, as Democrats are already pointing out: "Mitch McConnell wasted over two months -- so don't look at us when pointing the finger of blame over why deadlines were missed." Or, perhaps: "We could have done all of this back in June. The only reason we didn't is Republicans sat around and did nothing. This is on them, period." That, in short, is a winning argument to make. Which Pelosi knows full well.

Everyone with any degree of political sense already knows how this is going to end -- another pertinent fact many in the pundit world are now ignoring. The endgame is clear. Pelosi is going to hold firm and refuse to accept the Republican's stinginess on unemployment and their attempt to provide legal immunity for businesses (which will free them all up to totally ignore any regulations or advice over how to keep their workers and customers safe). Pelosi is also going to demand more relief money for states and localities hard-hit by the economic collapse. She will also (hopefully) hold firm on the money necessary to protect what is going to prove to be the most unusual election held in modern times.

Republicans, led by the White House minions, are going to fight all of this tooth and nail. They'll refuse to blink and they'll allow the deadlines to pass by. Then they'll try to make political hay over it, blaming Pelosi and the Democrats for the lapse. They will fail in this attempt as the public overwhelmingly (and correctly) blames both Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell for wasting so much of everyone's time. Once the polling is obvious, Donald Trump will throw an epic tantrum and the White House minions will then immediately cave on just about everything on Pelosi's list. They'll give in on all sorts of things while securing tiny concessions at the fringes. The final bill will be a lot closer to the $3 trillion in the Democratic bill than the $1 trillion McConnell proposed. Virtually all of the Republican poison-pill nonsense will wind up on the bargaining room floor. Pelosi may allow them one or two watered down face-saving measures (perhaps a much more limited immunity provision that still allows people to sue when businesses refuse to even try to protect workers), but the final bill will be around 80-85 percent of what Democrats want, and virtually none of what the Republicans want.

This is entirely appropriate, because the votes on the final bill are going to be just what everyone knows they will be: overwhelming support from the Democrats with very limited GOP support, in both the House and Senate final votes. There may actually be more support for the final bill from Senate Republicans than in the House, because several of them are in a fight for their political lives back home. Which means a GOP senator voting against pandemic crisis relief is definitely going to be used against them by their Democratic challengers on the campaign trail. McConnell will have to vote for it himself, of course, as a show of loyalty to Trump. This means that only two or three other Republicans could seal the deal. And there are at least six or seven Republican senators in deep political trouble already. Susan Collins and Cory Gardner (to name just two) will rush to vote for the bill in a desperate effort to save their own political skin. The bill will pass, and Trump will gladly sign it, in a desperate effort to save his own political skin.

All of this is pretty much preordained. The endgame is entirely predictable, mostly because it has happened so many times before between Trump and Pelosi (mostly on budget bills). Trump spends a few weeks playing the tough guy, and then when the public turns against him he quickly caves just to have a bill (any bill!) to sign. Pelosi walks away with the lion's share of what she wanted, while Trump brags about his superb dealmaking skills and tries to take all the credit for whatever passes. In other words, we've seen this reality-show episode before, and nothing much is going to change this time around.

Pelosi is in the stronger bargaining position for one good reason: if no bill is passed, the economy is guaranteed to go into a "double-dip recession" right before the election happens. The political consequences of doing nothing will be swift and brutal for the Republican Party. All of Trump's rosy talk of the economy roaring back "like a rocketship" will be shown to be no more than his usual blustery nonsense. Unemployment will spike back up again, people will be kicked out of their homes, the economy will suffer terribly because nobody's got that extra $600 a week to spend any more, and it will all happen right as people are deciding which party to support in the voting booth. That is about as strong a political hand as can be imagined, for Pelosi.

The only real question remaining is how long we'll have to wallow in Republican incompetence before this endgame plays out. How much longer will Republicans failing to even agree among themselves be center stage on the news each night? Once the deadlines pass, the focus on the failure to get the relief package done will become more and more acute with each passing day. Think of how the government shutdown was covered, if you've forgotten how this is going to play out on television.

Mitch McConnell can't even produce a Republican-only bill that his own Republicans will vote for. His rampant incompetence and pointless delays have immeasurably weakened the Republicans' bargaining position. So far, the White House minions have been content to sit back and refuse to bargain while the clocks all run out. Sooner or later (when the polling comes in), they'll radically change their tune and be absolutely desperate to make any deal at all. This may take a few days, or it may take a few weeks -- but no matter how long it takes, it will only serve to draw all the political attention to the widespread and incurable Republican incompetence in Washington. With fewer than 100 days to go before an election.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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222 Comments on “Rampant GOP Incompetence On Full Display”

  1. [1] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    How many bottles of beer are left on the wall?

  2. [2] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    For once, Trump is exactly right.

    To be fair, he did say that Fox is unwatchable this afternoon.

  3. [3] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Let's hope that Amy McGrath is ready to take advantage.

  4. [4] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    1

    How many bottles of beer are left on the wall?

    97 bottles of beer on the wall
    97 bottles of beer...

  5. [5] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    With his Suburban Lifestyle Dream order today, Swinger Don apparently decided to test his boot licking death cult zombies' commitment to the notion that it's OK for him to be sadistic with them provided that he hurts the ones they hate even more.

    We'll just have to wait and see what happens!

  6. [6] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    John From Censornati [1] -

    There's gotta be a reverse-countdown clock on the web somewhere... if anyone finds one, please post a link!

    :-)

    -CW

  7. [7] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    JFC [2] -

    Right twice in one day! Proving the "broken clock" rule, maybe?

    Heh.

    -CW

  8. [8] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW: Mitch McConnell can't even produce a Republican-only bill that his own Republicans will vote for.

    On top of everything else, Donald Trump has loaded up the Senate bill with an additional $1.75 billion earmarked for a new FBI building near Trump's hotel in DC in order to keep that space filled with a shiny new government building versus potential competition for himself and his own personal interests... all at the expense of taxpayers.

    The GOP is no longer capable of governing for the people. Vote them out.

  9. [9] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    JFC,

    You are a laugh riot!

    I mean that sincerely, I'm not trying to be facetious here.

    Seriously, you should take this show on the road!

    See, even I can learn ... slowly, but learn, nevertheless. :)

  10. [10] 
    Kick wrote:
  11. [11] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale, and everyone!

    I have to post this link to a Nicholas Kristof piece in the New York Times because it was kind of a hoot.

    He's been in Portland for the last many weeks covering the protests that are turning the city into another "Afghanistan", according to president Trump.

    And, he's been trying to find the anarchists and terrorists the president keeps talking about ... read more about it here https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/29/opinion/portland-protests-trump.html?campaign_id=45&emc=edit_nk_20200729&instance_id=20768&nl=nicholas-kristof&regi_id=22515649&segment_id=34700&te=1&user_id=571c3be725d6b0ef871fd6e259864d6a

  12. [12] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Kick [10] -

    Cool! I love it!

    :-)

    "Take one down and pass it around..."

    -CW

  13. [13] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    Call me a cynic, but I don't think the lapse in the moratorium on evictions has anything to do with incompetence and dithering. I think it is a calculated move to suppress the vote.
    It might be a really good time, for example, to send out those post cards for pruning the rolls. I could see a few red state election officials doing that.
    I'm guessing that in most - if not all - jurisdictions, those post cards and/or vote-by-mail ballots cannot be forwarded. Wouldn't it be a shame if economically fragile Americans had more important survival issues to deal with than voting?

  14. [14] 
    John M from Ct. wrote:

    Nicely parsed, especially with the emphasis on the fact that we know how this will play out, because it's how it's played out already several times in this Congress's term.

    You don't speculate on why McConnell is unable to get his own party behind him on the skimpy relief bill, so he can go into conference with the House with a solid backup. But I remember reading, somewhere recently, that the best explanation is that a significant number of Republican lawmakers and pundits have actually begun to believe their own propaganda. There are, it seems, federal legislators who actually believe that a generous relief allowance (i.e. $600 unemployment on top of scanty state benefits) actually is the reason people are not flocking back to work, right now. Likewise, they believe that employers who fail to protect their workers from a highly infectious and dangerous disease are the real victims of the situation, because they might actually get sued for endangering their workers' lives.

    Before the past few years, one could imagine that Republican office holders and ideologues were parroting talking points they themselves didn't believe, but thought were good for attracting voters. But here we have Republicans literally hurting themselves - patently increasing the odds that everyday people will flee the party and vote it out of office because the party evidently wants to impoverish, starve, or kill them - because of an obviously unrealistic and out-of-touch ideology.

    As a side note of style, I want to point out that writing

    "Trump just described the entire Republican draft bill as 'sort of semi-irrelevant.' And you know what? For once, Trump is exactly right."

    and then immediately writing,

    "McConnell's bill is worse than just semi-irrelevant, it is totally irrelevant"

    is, essentially, nonsense. What you've actually said is that Trump is not "exactly right" at all; his phrase "semi-irrelevant" is the kind of waffling BS he puts out when he has no idea what he's talking about. No, he's not exactly wrong, because he did use the word irrelevant, but he's certainly not "exactly right" because, as you say immediately after your quasi-compliment, his use of 'semi' instead of 'totally' shows he's basically kind of, um, wrong.

    I get that there is a rhetorical device at work here, but really, it just comes across as puffery. Best not to quote Trump at all, as I've said several times recently. It never ends well.

  15. [15] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    LizM,

    I was really touched that you got on the Big Money Joe bandwagon. Don's counter-productive drone has driven me to embrace Biden's embrace of those $300 donors. I want to see him swimming around in huge piles of gold coins if he wants my vote.

  16. [16] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Now if I could just convince Chris Weigant to write a column about my Big Money Joe Campaign, maybe we could rid ourselves of that orange menace. I am willing to compromise my standards and allow pie lovers to join my thing even though I'm not wild about pie. Let them eat cake!

  17. [17] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I want to see him swimming around in huge piles of gold coins if he wants my vote.

    Swimming around in huge piles of gold. Yes, I would like to see him do that, too, most definitely.

    Everybody on board the Big Money Joe Campaign train ... we're taking off!

  18. [18] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    It should have also pointed out the extra pork in this bill. Lets see:

    18 Billion for defense spending not at all related to the pandemic.

    $377 million for the “West Wing Phase 2 Modernization and Pennsylvania Avenue Screening Facility”.

    $50 million for “credential authentication technology units” at the Transportation and Security Administration (TSA).

    $70 million for “computed tomography technologies” at TSA.

    $175 million for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), which already received $75 million in supplemental funding from the CARES Act.

    $75 million for the Essential Air Service (EAS) at the Department of Transportation.

    $10 billion for “Grants-In-Aid for Airports”.

    $16 billion for direct payments to agriculture producers

    Plus 1.75 Billion for the FBI building.

    So, not only can they not get their act together, they have to load it up with giveaways for the rich...

  19. [19] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    11

    I have to post this link to a Nicholas Kristof piece in the New York Times because it was kind of a hoot.

    Great piece that finds pretty much what I expected: Donald Trump is like a mob boss who is the king of creating chaos... insisting he can "fix it":

    * The scare-a-van is on it's way... any day now.
    * Be afraid, be very afraid.
    * Trump saved y'all's neighborhoods from the "poors" and the "others."
    * Fear and smear.
    * Hatred and lies follow him wherever he goes.

    And, he's been trying to find the anarchists and terrorists the president keeps talking about.

    Trump is the terrorist creating a culture of chaos regarding issue after issue. The fish rots from the head.

  20. [20] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    How many bottles of beer are left on the wall?

    heck if i know, but anyone with the self-control to stick to just one a day until the election should be playing poker instead.

  21. [21] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    heck if i know, but anyone with the self-control to stick to just one a day until the election should be playing poker instead.

    Who says you can only have one beer? I have many beers in my fridge... but only 97 left on the wall.

  22. [22] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Don Harris (from Monday’s comments)

    Prove your grandmother could have helped more than Obama with the 500 dollars?

    Easy. 500 less 200 is 300. 200 to Obama. 200 to another candidate and 100 to another candidate. Or 100 to five candidates.

    Again with KKK nonsense. That has been explained many times before. If you cannot retain information then stop pretending you know what you are talking about. You don't. That nonsense is TROLLING!!!!!

    Don, you have declared that any candidate/politician that doesn’t live up to your purity standards is ALWAYS working against the best interests of their constituents. You have no actual proof that every politician is working against us — yes, it’d be EVERY politician because none are actually living up to your standards.

    So why, then, are you telling my grandmother that instead of supporting one evil politician, it would have been better for her to have helped 5 of them?

    You originally said: Using One Demand your grandmother could have supported more than just Obama with her 500 dollars making it possible for more small donor only candidates to win and making it possible for more things to benefit ordinary citizens to get done as it takes more than one person to do anything in our government.

    But there were NO SMALL DONOR ONLY CANDIDATES available for her to be able to follow your idiotic suggestion! So, in reality, your advice was for my grandmother to help 5 Big Money candidates instead of just one! That conflicts with the promise you would have had her make if she had registered with OneDemand...5x as bad as if she had simply ignored your advice.

    And more importantly, just as you have failed to show that a politician who accepts a $2800 campaign donation will be corrupted by that gift, you have also failed to show that a politician who only accepts small campaign donations would be a candidate that we SHOULD vote for!

    That is why I keep bringing up the OneDemand Nazi — because by your own criteria, there is no way that you could prevent him! You judge all candidates by whether they comply with your OneDemand...ignoring everything else that they support or oppose. It’s YOUR ONE DEMAND! You are the one who has said that we should only support candidates willing to submit to your OneDemand...if that is all that matters (and that has been the stance you have taken on here for years) then you’d have to support your Nazi candidate. You now are realizing the flaw with your OneDemand — it truly does nothing to ensure that we will have politicians that are working for their constituents above all else!

    The demand for candidates from citizens precedes the candidates. Your claim that the candidates must be available before citizens can demand them is ridiculous nonsense that qualifies as more TROLLING!!!!!

    YOU were the one saying that my grandmother should have broken up her $500 donation to Obama so that she could have helped up to four small donation only candidates as well as still donating to Obama’s campaign! YOU are the ONE claiming that our donations would be better spent if we donated to NON-EXISTENT CANDIDATES!!! You have no candidates for voters to support, but you still want them to register their personal information with your not-an-actual-non-profit organization. Now do you really wonder why Chris wouldn’t want to throw his full support behind your scam?

    And then there was this jewel:

    No, your 100 million people giving 20 dollars is not better. It is possible but much less achievable than three in ten Deathocrats which is easily achievable.

    Don, I think you should immediately contact the DNC and inform them that you should be hired as their leading campaign financial coordinator today! When they ask why they should hire you, you tell them that you have a way for them to get 30% of all registered Democratic voters to start contributing to them.... a goal that you believe is EASILY ACHIEVABLE!

    Seriously, you could earn a huge salary at that job! It’d be a great way for you to get to bring the real movers and shakers in politics into your group. Win, win....as long as you can deliver....but how could you NOT deliver such an easily achievable goal!?!?

  23. [23] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    John M from Ct. [14] -

    Good points.

    You may be right about "believing their own PR" but I think an alternate reason may also be lurking:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-has-earned-itself-a-multi-year-expulsion-from-politics/2020/07/29/724d13ac-d1d1-11ea-8d32-1ebf4e9d8e0d_story.html

    Some GOP senators have already determined that Trump will lose, therefore they are dragging out the "fiscal responsibility" thing again (my apologies, that link may not be the story I was thinking of, but several pundits have been speculating about this recently).

    If Biden is elected, then the GOP is going to take up the "we can't spend the money, THINK OF THE DEFICIT" refrain, once again. Therefore, they are starting this effort early.

    Sounds plausible to me.

    As for your style note, you are entirely correct and I deserve a flogging with a wet noodle, as Ann Landers (or was it Dear Abby?) would have said. It makes no sense. But rhetorically it's pretty sound, I think. Heh.

    After all, who is going to nitpick when Trump gets something semi-right?

    :-)

    [15] -

    Like Scrooge McDuck "porpoising" in his vault?

    -CW

  24. [24] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    LizM [17] -

    Speaking of things that don't make sense...

    Everybody on board the Big Money Joe Campaign train ... we're taking off!

    Um... a train? Taking off?

    Heh. I remember seeing a Grateful Dead concert in Oregon a long time ago when Jerry Garcia forgot the words to "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" so he sang (no lie):

    "Picture yourself in a train on a river..."

    We were all like: "OK, Jerry, but that train's sinking fast!"

    Heh.

    -CW

  25. [25] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    goode trickle [18] -

    Good points, all. Plenty of time to bring all of this stuff up, that's my guess...

    The FBI building is already an albatross around the GOP's neck, after all.

    -CW

  26. [26] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    goode trickle [21] -

    Funniest answer I've heard today!

    Well done, my friend...

    :-)

    All I can say is it's a damn good thing that beer production and distribution has been considered an essential industry in the crisis...

    -CW

  27. [27] 
    Mezzomamma wrote:

    Could it be that some on the R side think that letting things go from bad to worse now and putting out a relief plan in the fall will give them an advantage in November, going on the assumption that voters forget about the previous 6 months? Or that a last-minute jobs/stock market recovery of any kind will wipe memories clean?

    If something like the House plan eventually goes through, won't they then try to claim credit for it? Dems would need repeat 'Pelosi Plan' and 'Democratic CARES Act' on every possible occasion to remind people who worked it out and who obstructed it. Only the people who refuse Obamacare in favor of ACA would be put off by a Pelosi Plan, I suspect.

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW,

    I have screened all of the past 24 hours' worth of comments, and removed only two. Astonishingly enough, only one was from Michale (too big an excerpt).

    Was that the Michael Goodwin column??

    I just want to know who I need to obtain permission from.. :D

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    FPC

    If things get built back better, you'd be alright with that ... right, Michale?

    Well, since President Trump has ALREADY made America great again, it makes more sense to KEEP America Great..

    Obama-Biden proved that "better" is simply not in the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party's vocabulary...

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    Interesting to note re: the previous discussion about who prevailed in the Barr/House hearing last night..

    Democrats Finally Had Their Chance to Grill Bill Barr. They Blew It.

    Jordan was allowed to play this video in contradiction to committee rules, and, again, it ran well longer than his allotted time. Nadler then spent much of his question time not actually asking Barr questions or getting responses from him, but again grandstanding with statements that Barr was “hiding behind legal fictions.” Former House Intelligence Committee staff attorney Daniel Goldman, who did effective staff questioning during the impeachment inquiry, went so far as to note on Twitter how poorly Nadler had done the job.

    Throughout the day, when Democratic representatives questioned Barr about specific allegations of abuse of power, they either quickly stepped over their own lines of questioning or interrupted Barr. This tactic may have been effective in preventing Barr from filibustering, but it did nothing to get any answers whatsoever from him.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/democrats-fail-bill-barr-testimony.html

    Even a Left Wing rag like SLATE concedes that the Democrats blew it.. :D

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    And, he's been trying to find the anarchists and terrorists the president keeps talking about ... read more about it here

    If he couldn't find any, that simply displays the incompetence of Democrats/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter members..

    They can be viewed daily all over the media...

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    The new big thing from the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is that ALL white people are racist..

    I Am a Racist. If You're White, You Are Too
    https://www.startribune.com/counterpoint-i-am-a-racist-so-is-katherine-kersten/571937132/?refresh=true

    The "Deplorables" crack didn't work out too well for Hillary Clinton, so the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party decided to double down and accuse ALL white people of being racist..

    Which is rather laughable when one considers the FACT that the very statement is racist..

    Easy to prove..

    Is ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST any different than ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE CRIMINALS??

    No, there is no difference... They are both racist claims..

    It's in keeping with a meme that is floating around the Net-o-sphere...

    LIVES MATTER....
    IF YOU HAVE TO PUT A COLOR/RACE IN FRONT OF THAT...
    YOU ARE A RACIST

    Truer words were never spoken...

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    Focus Groups Show Midwest Swing Voters Solidly Behind Trump
    The voters who are still backing Trump

    Pollsters are consistently telling us Democratic nominee Joe Biden is far ahead. I'm not looking to pick a fight, as their sample sizes are much larger than mine. That said, as a focus group moderator, I'm hearing strong support for President Donald Trump from a critical sliver of the electorate.

    And, each month for the past 17 months, I've had a unique window into the Americans largely responsible for giving the president his slim Electoral College victory: so-called "Obama-Trump" swing voters across the upper Midwest. Our Swing Voter Project has uncovered that many of these people, who live in places such as Canton, Ohio; Davenport, Iowa; Erie, Pennsylvania; and Macomb County, Michigan, prefer Trump over Biden. In fact, 22 of 33 respondents in these four most recent locations feel this way. And over the first year of the project, from March 2019 through February 2020, more than two-thirds of the "Obama-Trump" voters said they would take Trump over Obama in a hypothetical match-up.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/opinions/swing-voters-midwest-trump-support-thau/index.html

    Once again....

    Ya'all have yer proven carp polls..

    All other FACTS support a President Trump victory...

    There is no other logical or rational conclusion possible...

    And if it's CNN reporting the facts, no one can pooh-pooh it away as FoxNews carp...

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    The above article goes on to say, factually speaking, that voters in America don't blame President Trump for the pandemic... They look at it as along the lines of a hurricane or force of nature, uncontrollable by mere mortal men..

    The sane patriotic American voters also equate Black Lies Matter with the rioting, the looting, the toddler torturing, the burning and the cop killings...

    For the vast majority of Americans, Black Lies Matter = Cop Killings, Toddler Torturing, Rioting, Looting...

    Again, just the FACTS...

    The vast majority of Americans *LIKE* President Trump's AMERICA FIRST way of looking at things..

    Sane patriotic Americans oppose immigration and trade policies that give benefits to foreigners and non-Americans at the expense of American citizens. And they want a non-politician who relentlessly fights back against those who hate this country.

    After witnessing too many office holders fold in the face of special interests, the vast majority of Americans LOVE how President Trump pokes the eye of political correctness and politics-as-usual...

    Now, of course, ya'all will simply write these people off as deplorable Fox News viewers, but the facts show that the majority of them are not..

    The majority of them get their news from local sources and regional websites and eschew national cable news sources as utterly biased and useless..

    The vast majority of Americans believe that Basement Biden is simply to senile or cognitive-challenged to be an effective leader.. This majority believes that Biden will simply be a figure-head, a puppet controlled by special interest groups and deep state apparatchiks...

    Which is not to say that these sane patriotic Americans don't recognize President Trump's shortcomings.. We cringe at his twits and cringe when he does something arrogantly stoopid.. But that is simply the price of someone who fights against those that hate this country so relentlessly...

    Give us an arrogant SOB who is crass and vulgar but does so in great service to this country...

    One takes the good with the bad, warts and all..

    President Trump is a president for the little guy.. The forgotten guy.. The ignored guy...

    And the same things that put President Trump in power despite ALL of the innumerable odds against him...

    Those things are still in play today.. And that's what will make 2020 a simple repeat of 2016..

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party, and ya'all incidentally, are playing the exact same parts ya'all played in 2016 right down to the giddy infatuation with the polls..

    "We got this in the bag!!"
    "The election is ours!!"

    Yep.. We have heard it all before...

    And, sadly for ya'all, it's all going to end the same way...

    Don't say I didn't warn ya'all.. :D

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Once again, it must be pointed out that all of the above comes from a LEFT WING rag source...

    So claims of Pro Trump bias will be thrown on the trash heap of carp and fake news where they belong..

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    The 1619 Project: When ‘History’ Isn’t History

    All this has occurred even as practicing historians expressed skepticism about the relative historical value of the Project. Last December, five historians—Gordon Wood, Victoria Bynum, James McPherson, Sean Wilentz, and James Oakes—took issue with the 1619 Project’s central and most contentious claim: that the nation’s founding date is not 1776 but a century and a half earlier. “[T]he project asserts the founders declared the colonies’ independence of Britain’ in order to ensure slavery would continue,’” these scholars wrote, “This is not true. If supportable, the allegation would be astounding—yet every statement offered by the Project to validate it is false.” The Times took note and, accordingly, corrected the “original language” to reflect the facts while still defending “the basic point” of the offending essay.

    “I’ve always said that the 1619 Project is not a history,” she recently averred. “It is a work of journalism that explicitly seeks to challenge the national narrative and, therefore, the national memory.” Hannah-Jones continued: “The crazy thing is, the 1619 Project is using history and reporting to make an argument. It never pretended to be a history.” Indeed, when it comes to primary education, “the curriculum is supplementary and cannot and was never intended to supplant U.S. history curriculum.” That is, indeed, quite reasonable. Even if we assume K-12 students are equipped to “interrogate” the “narrative” of America’s Founding, which they are not, such an enterprise amounts to indoctrination if the student has not yet internalized the basics. You cannot “critically deconstruct” a narrative with which you’re unfamiliar.
    https://outline.com/dz9B4A

    To paraphrase George Orwell

    "Those who control the past control the future"

    The 1619 Authors are attempting to re-write history to fit their racist views...

    The tearing down of monuments to American culture is the supportive effort of that historical re-write...

    One has to ask the question..

    Why hasn't Dauchau been razed to the ground??

    Why is Mauthausen today a solemn place of meditation and mourning and not a hole in the ground??

    Why is Auschwitz a place of remembrance and not a mini-mall or condominium complex??

    Why is Flossenbürg still standing as a reminder of the depravity of human existence instead of being destroyed with great prejudice??

    Because these reminders are NEEDED so that they can never happen again...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is trying to sanitize American history. To be more accurate, the Party is trying to sanitize the history of the Party itself..

    It's the irony to end all ironies that the vast majority of monuments that the Party wants destroyed are monuments TO and CREATED BY Democrats...

    So, it's understandable that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party would want to destroy the vestiges that is part and parcel to the Party itself..

    I'de wager that, gods forbid, if a Nazi-esque Party were to achieve power in Germany, the VERY first order of business they would go about would be to erase all vestiges and reminders of their sick and twisted and violent roots..

    So it is with the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    They are trying to erase all vestiges of their sick and twisted and violent roots..

    The facts allow for no other rational conclusion..

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW,

    With the utmost respect..

    Since you are cracking down on excessive quoting and profanity and whatever else strikes yer PO'ed meter.. :D

    Might I humbly request that we get an edit feature...

    Apparently, 'nuck slipped yesterday with some profanity...

    This morning, I almost inadvertently posted an entire (very long) article instead of the 2 paragraphs I wanted...

    If we had an edit feature we could save ourselves the embarrassment of being censored by the Grand Poobah.. :D

    Again, with the utmost respect..

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    This alone will likely mean Basement Biden's downfall in 97 days..

    Biden Attacks U.S. Energy Dominance; Trump Protects It

    It’s difficult to overstate the importance of America’s energy renaissance. Following the dark days of the credit crisis in 2008 and 2009, breakthroughs in energy extraction, especially hydraulic fracturing, facilitated a domestic production boom responsible for almost all the net national job growth in the early years of the recovery. In addition, the national security benefits of energy independence remain immense, as America no longer languishes in a vulnerable position to often volatile energy-rich countries. This energy boom accelerated under President Trump, as his administration green-lighted pipelines, cut taxes, and reined-in regulations allowing the United States to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil and natural gas.

    Trump travels to Double Eagle Energy today in Midland, Texas, to demonstrate his ongoing commitment to unleashing American energy independence and the millions of high-paying jobs it supports.

    In contrast, Joe Biden reveals the radicalism of his party’s agenda with a series of policies that would sap America’s prosperity and surrender again to a place of subservience in sourcing the energy to power our economy. Specifically, his proposed ban on fracking would cost America 5.9 million jobs, including 600,000 in Pennsylvania, according to a study from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Although some of Biden’s handlers try to obfuscate, the following exchange on CNN makes his plans clear:

    Dana Bash: “Just to clarify, would there be any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking, in a Biden administration?”

    Biden: “No.”
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/07/29/biden_attacks_us_energy_dominance_trump_protects_it_143830.html

    Basement Biden wants to return us to the inglorious days of Barack By Necessity, Electric Bills Will Have To Rise Odumbo...

    President Trump brought US Energy to world leadership.

    A President Basement Biden (you can't see it, but I cringed mightily when I wrote that) would throw that away...

    Just as he would throw away our cops and our history and our way of life..

    It cannot be allowed to happen..

    It WILL NOT be allowed to happen..

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    As further evidence of Basement Biden's trashing of America FIRST energy dominance, we need to look no further than his pact (Typhon Pact?? :D ) with Bernie Sanders communist radicals..

    On the second page of that 110-page Bernie Communist Manifesto it states that we must eliminate all carbon emissions from power plants in America by 2035. This is not only an elitist's wet dream, it is simply unattainable technologically speaking.. It simply is IMPOSSIBLE...

    Biden is willing to cater to the most radical fringes of American politics in pursuit of a reckless and job-killing agenda that will serve no purpose other than to destroy America as the top Energy country in the world..

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course, there are those who will say that Basement Biden's foreign policy "chops" is sufficient for his ascension {cringe, cringe} to the POTUS-ency...

    But here again, the facts paint a different story..

    “Biden has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades."
    -Odumbo Defense Secretary Robert Gates

    Between Basement Biden's racist attitudes and his total lack of skill in the foreign policy department of the last 40 years, there really is no reason to vote for the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party in 97 days..

  41. [41] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Listen-
    Really nothing more than grasping at straws and dubious assertions and conclusions- trolling.

  42. [42] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    At his Klan rally last night, George Wallace Drumpf was talking about how the terrible destruction of the Suburban Lifestyle Dream had been ongoing for years.

    Now I realize that white supremacists are not the brightest bunch, but if I were one of those suburban segregationists, I would think: What? All he had to do was sign his name to stop the urban riff-raff that has been moving in during the last three years? Now he's going to do something after it's too late and I have to move to exurbia? And he's blocking my $1,200 pandemic welfare check? I was gonna use that to pay my moving expenses because I don't have a job.

    Thanks Trump!

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    You can't fix STOOPID...

    This man was shot and killed Saturday night during a BLM protest in Austin. His name is Garrett Foster. He was a BLM protester and was carrying an AK47 style rifle. A car was trying to make it's way through the crowd of protesters and Garrett Foster approached the car pointing his rifle at the driver. The driver pulled out his own gun and shot Foster, killing him. Foster was within his right to protest, within his right to open carry a gun. What he didn't have the right to do was walk up to a car pointing his gun at the driver. Foster had been interviewed by a local journalist earlier in the evening and stated that "most conservatives are pus---s and won't stand up for themselves." As sad as this is, what did this guy expect was going to happen when he pointed his gun at a driver just trying to get through the crowd to get home? The driver who shot Foster immediately called 911 and said that he was involved in a self defense shooting, turned himself in and is cooperating with police. The footage clearly shows Foster pointing his gun at the driver

    Well, in this case, I guess you can... :^/

    I can say that, in my particular case, if some Black Lies Matter scumbag point a weapon at me, I would react the same way.. With 2 in the 10....

    Apparently, conservatives are not as much of "puss**s that won't stand up for themselves" as this Forster moron thought..

    Darwin's law in action..

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    JFC,

    At his Klan rally last night, George Wallace Drumpf was talking about how the terrible destruction of the Suburban Lifestyle Dream had been ongoing for years.

    You DO realize that George Wallace was a Democrat, right?? :D

    Doesn't do your position much credibility if you are posting about racist Democrats..

    I'm just sayin'...

    Have a happy.. :D

  45. [45] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Bunker Boy just Twittered about delaying the election because of the fake virus. Resist!

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    Missouri attorney general dismissing case against St Louis couple charged with brandishing gun

    One of Missouri’s top legal advisers will end a controversial lawsuit against a St. Louis couple who allegedly showed anti-police protesters they were armed. Republican Attorney General Eric Schmitt is intervening in state Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner’s legal action against Mark and Patricia McCloskey, for brandishing a rifle. The McCloskeys took up arms when extreme “anarchist” demonstrators gathered outside their home on June 28. The weapon was confiscated after the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department searched the property.

    “As Missouri’s chief law enforcement officer, I simply will not stand by while Missouri laws are being ignored,” Schmitt said in a video shared on Twitter. “That is why I am entering the case in terms of seeking the dismissal of the case to protect the rights of Missourians to defend themselves in their property under Missouri’s castle doctrine.” The rule recognizes residents’ right to respond to intruders with force and without a duty to retreat because their home is their “castle.” If someone trespasses and disrupts the “sanctity” of their home, they intend to harm, and residents can ward off their advances according to the FindLaw website.
    https://m.theliontimes.com/politics/missouri-ag-eric-schmitt-will-dismiss-case-against-st-louis-couple-charged-with-brandishing-gun.html

    Once again, justice, fairness and the American way prevail..

    HIP HIP HOOOORAAAAAYYY :D

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bunker Boy just Twittered about delaying the election because of the fake virus. Resist!

    Are you talking about Basement Biden???

    Because the FACTS clearly show that the idea that President Trump wants to delay the election is completely and utter Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party moose poop...

    Trump Shoots Down Allegation He May Delay Election Day, Calls Suggestion 'Propaganda'
    President Donald Trump called former Vice President Joe Biden's suggestion that Trump could delay November's presidential election "propaganda" during a news briefing from the White House Rose Garden on Monday.

    "I never even thought of changing the date of the election," Trump said. "Why would I do that? November 3. It's a good number. I look forward to that election."

    "That was just made up propaganda," Trump continued. "Not by [Biden], but by some of the people that are working, writing little statements I see all the time. 'Statement made,' you see, 'statement made per Joe Biden.' Sleepy Joe. He didn't make those statements, but somebody did. But they said he made it. No, let him know I'm not thinking about it at all, not at all."
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-shoots-down-allegation-he-may-delay-election-day-calls-suggestion-propaganda-1500541

    MOOSE POOP, I tell you!!

    COMPLETE AND UTTER MOOSE POOP!!

  48. [48] 
    Kick wrote:

    Chris Weigant
    12

    "Take one down and pass it around..."

    96 bottles of beer on the wall!

    95 DAYS * 15 HOURS * 40 MINUTES

  49. [49] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    I forgot the link.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288818160389558273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Bunker Boy is wetting his Depends. He's a big fan of polling and it's dawning on him that nobody likes him.

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    JUST what America needs in 2020...

    http://sjfm.us/pics/thor.jpg

    THOR vs CARE BEARS

    Who knew that the bears had shields.. :D

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    Thank you for providing the link..

    As usual, it did not say what you said it said...

    But I am pleased to see you follow President Trump so closely..

    A closet President Trump admirer to be sure.. :D

    Don't ever come out of the closet.. :D

  52. [52] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    49

    Bunker Boy is wetting his Depends. He's a big fan of polling and it's dawning on him that nobody likes him.

    Well now, JFC, this is very telling, is it not? The same Bunker Boy who insists that it's safe for our children to return to school and people to return to work wants to sell the idea that it's not safe to vote? Bunker Boy didn't think that one through, did he?

    I got light bulbs that are brighter than President Murderer. Why doesn't he just save some time and tweet out to his followers that he thinks they're stupid?

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is undoubtedly factual..

    The Left's Willingness to Tolerate Violence Should Frighten All Americans

    The Left's Willingness to Tolerate Violence Should Frighten All Americans
    .By Ben ShapiroJuly 29, 2020
    The Left's Willingness to Tolerate Violence Should Frighten All Americans(AP Photo/Noah Berger)
    "Mostly peaceful."

    So goes the characterization of demonstrations that have routinely turned into looting and rioting for months on end, from Portland to Seattle to New York to Los Angeles. "Protesters in California set fire to a courthouse, damaged a police station and assaulted officers after a peaceful demonstration intensified," read one recent ABC News tweet. CNN called protests in Portland "mostly peaceful," adding that "they have at times devolved into violence, vandalism, and arson." During riots in Los Angeles in June, as the entire county locked down, the Los Angeles Times noted, "The third night of countywide curfews followed days of massive, mostly peaceful protests ... Nearly 1,200 people were arrested Sunday after police officers clashed with demonstrators and looters shattered windows and emptied stores in Santa Monica and Long Beach."

    The phrase "mostly peaceful," then, is rather fungible. Consider that during the tea party protests of 2011, then-Vice President Joe Biden reportedly likened tea partiers to "terrorists" -- and those protests were notable mostly for people cleaning up their own litter. When anti-lockdown protesters descended on the Michigan state capitol, a columnist for The New York Times labeled them "armed rebels," despite a complete lack of violence. When three white supremacists were arrested for plotting violence at a pro-gun rally, GQ's Talia Lavin headlined, "That Pro-Gun Rally in Virginia Wasn't Exactly 'Peaceful'" -- even though the rally saw no violence.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/07/29/the_lefts_willingness_to_tolerate_violence_should_frighten_all_americans_143822.html

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party's penchant for seeing things that are not there is legendary...

    Here is simply another example of it..

    Compare and contrast the ACTUAL peaceful protests from the Right to the toddler torturing, cop killing, looting, burning and rioting that hallmarks virtually ALL Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party riots...

    In another blow to the credibility of that history re-write, the 1619 Project founder of that incredible piece of fantasy trash novel, Nikole Hannah-Jones proclaimed:

    "The destruction of property and the murder of police is not violence."

    Of course, AG Bill Barr's was as devastating as it was factually accurate...

    "What makes me concerned for the country is this is the first time in my memory the leaders of one of our great two political parties, the Democratic Party, are not coming out and condemning mob violence and the attack on federal courts."

    It's little wonder that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party has nothing going for it except inaccurate and unreliable carp polls..

    When the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter runs cover for and condones and encourages the toddler torturing and the cop killings and the rioting and the looting and the destruction civilization splinters and falls to pieces...

    With each passing day, by actively and covertly supporting the riots and the lootings and the cop killings and the toddler torturing, the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party brings us closer and closer to the brink of a shooting civil war...

    The Foster incident above is simply a precursor to how that war is going to go down..

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the FACTS are clear..

    http://sjfm.us/pics/racist.jpg

    President Trump probably could have done better without the Michael Jackson picture..

    But Michael Jackson is, or rather was, black.. Sorta... :D

  55. [55] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Chris,

    We were all like: "OK, Jerry, but that train's sinking fast!" Heh.

    Really? Well, I'm surprised that y'all recognized the flub at the time. Ha! And, that y'all could think up a smart comeback. Heheheheheheheh

    Whenever I would sing along with Prism's Flyin' I would always flub the line, "I'll put you on that morning plane" by replacing it with "I'll put you on that midnight train" for no good reason that I can understand. So, now, whenever I sing along with it, I purposely flub the lyrics. Heh.

    Something about me and trains, I guess ... ??

  56. [56] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, it's official..

    Democrats Make Mockery of Barr ‘Hearing’

    If it’s a “hearing,” Bill Barr asked with an irked tongue in cheek, “aren’t I the one who’s supposed to be heard?”

    His frustration was more than justified. Judiciary Committee chairman Jerry Nadler (D., N.Y.) and the other Democrats who control the House demanded for months that Barr come to a “hearing” and “testify.” But of course, it wasn’t anything like an actual hearing, and they didn’t want him to testify — as in actually answer questions. The session was a coveted election-year opportunity for Democrats to berate the attorney general of the United States in five-minute installments, accusing Barr of corruption, perjury, violating his oath, betraying the Constitution — at one point, even of killing thousands of COVID-19 victims (apparently, by being attorney general during a pandemic).
    https://tinyurl.com/yyd8x53z

    Both SLATE *AND* National Review agree...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party scrooed da pooch on the Barr hearing..

    That has to be a historical first.. :D

  57. [57] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Chris,

    Um... a train? Taking off?

    Yeah, it's true! Me and JFC are a two-man wrecking crew. Think of it as a little reverse psychology in Weigantia.

    It'll come to ya on the bus home. Heh.

  58. [58] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I'll have to post that fine Elton John tune Sunday night! :)

  59. [59] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [13]

    MyVoice wrote:.

    Call me a cynic, but I don't think the lapse in the moratorium on evictions has anything to do with incompetence and dithering. I think it is a calculated move to suppress the vote.

    Given the Repug's voter suppression over the recent years, I think you're way closer to realism than you are to cynicism.

  60. [60] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Chris,

    "Picture yourself on a train in a river ... "

    Okay, I'll be laughing about that one all day long! :)

  61. [61] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    According to Trump it's the Democrats backing off the 'largesse' of the GOP...So we know that to be false.

    American politics can be boiled down this way now.

    If Trump swears something is the truth, it's a lie. If it's beneficial, it's suicide. If he didn't know, his adled mind cooked it up...

    You get my drift.

    LL&P

  62. [62] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    32

    The new big thing from the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is that ALL white people are racist..

    Did one person write an opinion and you assigned it to your entirely invented fictional political party?

    I Am a Racist. If You're White, You Are Too
    https://www.startribune.com/counterpoint-i-am-a-racist-so-is-katherine-kersten/571937132/?refresh=true

    Right then, it's one person's opinion. I wouldn't take it too personally or get confused that it's the opinion of an entire group of people, even if it's an entirely invented group of your own.

    The "Deplorables" crack didn't work out too well for Hillary Clinton, so the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party decided to double down and accuse ALL white people of being racist..

    Hillary Clinton isn't running this year, and even if she was, it's ridiculous to assume she agrees with an opinion piece of another person.

    Which is rather laughable when one considers the FACT that the very statement is racist..

    Easy to prove..

    Is ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST any different than ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE CRIMINALS??

    Oh, I see you're taking issue with one person's opinion. You also seem to be taking issue with the fact that one person is lumping a whole group of people into one category... which is exactly what you do when you prattle on and on about that "Democrat" amalgamated fictional political party that only exists in your head wherein you're doing the exact same thing to an entire group of people that you're taking issue with here.

    No, there is no difference... They are both racist claims..

    I keep seeing this ridiculous drivel coming primarily from right wingers claiming that it's racist to try to bring to light the inherent racism that has existed in America since inception. It isn't.

    LIVES MATTER....
    IF YOU HAVE TO PUT A COLOR/RACE IN FRONT OF THAT...
    YOU ARE A RACIST

    Nah. It doesn't make you a racist to claim that people of color matter... because they do. This ridiculous spew above is just a way of minimizing the entire issue.

    Truer words were never spoken...

    Bollocks. It doesn't make you a racist to attempt to shine a light on racism that's been inherent in America since inception. As long as there are white nationalists in America marching with their tiki torches and chanting about their racial superiority, the need will exist. The nonsensical claim that calling out racism is in itself racist is a ridiculous right-wing rhetorical talking point designed to minimize the movement.

    Black lives matter, women matter, and being free to love whom you love matters. It doesn't make you racist nor misogynist nor homophobic to point out that those who've been marginalized in America for centuries matter. Deal with it. :)

  63. [63] 
    Kick wrote:

    Rest in Peace

    Herman Cain

  64. [64] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    LIVES MATTER.... IF YOU HAVE TO PUT A COLOR/RACE IN FRONT OF THAT...YOU ARE A RACIST

    caps lock notwithstanding, that's just plain wrong. the reason people HAVE to say that black lives matter, is because our society's default for a long time has been that they don't. we can get into the historical reasons for that another time, but in the USA right now people of african descent start life with two strikes against them.

    how many white professors get arrested for locking themselves out of their own house?

  65. [65] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    I'm thinking of ordering Trump a nice pair of walking boots and a dildo from Amazon, by way of saying thanks for the last four years of wonderful comedy.

    we all know what's coming next...

    If he doesn't like the walking boots, he can always go fuck himself.

    LL&P

  66. [66] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    re: herman cain

    it's hard to know what to feel. hopefully his death receives the same attention and consideration as other important people who have succumbed to covid.

  67. [67] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Really, JTC? Grow up!

  68. [68] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    He died? I'm sorry to hear that.

    Yes, his death should very much receive the attention required to make people take this virus seriously!

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    caps lock notwithstanding, that's just plain wrong. the reason people HAVE to say that black lives matter, is because our society's default for a long time has been that they don't.

    You can justify it however you wish... Even if you are completely wrong.

    But it's simply a fact that, you single out any specific racial group for whatever you want to claim..

    It's racist..

    rac·ist
    /?r?s?st/

    a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

    If you have to put a race in front of LIVES MATTER, then it's racism..

    By definition..

    how many white professors get arrested for locking themselves out of their own house?

    I would imagine, had white professors been such a douche to cops, plenty...

    Gates wasn't detained because he was black.. He was detained because he failed the attitude test..

    There are simply **NO FACTS** to support the claim that race had ANYTHING to do with that incident.

    NONE... ZERO.... ZILCH.... NADA...

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    it's hard to know what to feel. hopefully his death receives the same attention and consideration as other important people who have succumbed to covid.

    Fat chance of that..

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    I'm thinking of ordering Trump a nice pair of walking boots and a dildo from Amazon,

    Really??

    You want to order a dildo..

    Well.. Have fun with that...

  72. [72] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    I know how I feel about Herman Cain. The GOP death cult is determined to spread this disease and he was in on that plan. If he was OK with sacrificing himself for Dear Leader, then he got what he asked for.

  73. [73] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    also the GDP shrank 33%

  74. [74] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    JFC[72],

    I can't disagree with that.

  75. [75] 
    Michale wrote:

    Seattle residents slam ‘Defund the police’ as ‘radical experiment’ during city budget meeting
    City's police union said it has collected 20,000 signatures on a 'Stop Defunding' petition

    Hundreds of Seattle residents spoke up about proposals to “Defund the police” during a city council budget meeting on Wednesday, according to reports. The council is considering a plan that could slash the budget of the city’s police department by 50 percent – resulting in layoffs for hundreds of officers – all as Seattle deals with the coronavirus outbreak and frequent riots and other unrest since the May 25 death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis.

    While the “Defund the police” effort was initially popular in the city, opponents of the plan have been growing more vocal, Q13 FOX of Seattle reported. “Defunding the police is a radical experiment that will hurt the vulnerable,” one member of the public, calling in to the phone-in meeting, told the council, according to Q13 FOX.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/seattle-residents-slam-defund-the-police-as-radical-experiment-during-city-budget-meeting

    Sane patriotic Americans oppose the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party's platform of defunding/abolishing Police..

    I mean, just on the surface, it's completely and utterly moronic and stoopid..

    Cop haters complain it's lack of training that causes alleged police misconduct..

    So, their solution??

    Take money AWAY from police so they have less to train with..

    How utterly and totally senseless and brain-dead is that???

    Completely...

  76. [76] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @jfc,

    that's exactly the kind of reaction we ought to avoid. nobody likes to hear an 'i told you so' - especially regarding the death of someone they cared about. yes, herman cain made some health choices that may have resulted in his death. so let's make sure and remember so we can keep other people alive, whether we agree with them politically or not.

    JL

  77. [77] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @liz,

    i absolutely disagree with that.

    JL

  78. [78] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    first of all please learn to read more accurately. secondly, the dictionary definition of racism is in the process of expanding precisely because of claims like that that are very literal but not very literate.

    JL

  79. [79] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Cain was in on the GOP death cult so he if was willing to sacrifice himself for Dear Leader he got what he asked for.

    The GOP death cult is a subsidiary of the big money death cult. The Deathocrats are also part of the big money death cult.

    Will you be consistent with your sentiment if a Deathocrat dies from covid-19?

  80. [80] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    Yeah, I disagree, too ... truth be known.

    I just hope that his death will mean that the administration smartens up and that people smarten up and take this epidemic seriously and take appropriate action across the country to bring it under control before more people, in the public eye or not, have to die for a lack of a national strategy.

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ahhhhh Reality is beginning to seep into the micro teeny tiny brains of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party.. :D

    Minneapolis officials appear to backpedal from abolishing police

    The city's charter commission voted against the first of two proposals

    Members of the Minneapolis City Council supported the idea of abolishing their city's police department after George Floyd's death in police custody, but a recent vote indicates that the city may not be in any rush to follow through with the plan.

    The Minneapolis Charter Commission voted earlier this week to keep a police reform proposal off of November's ballot, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported. The measure would have scrapped a city requirement to maintain a police force of a size based on the city's population.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/minneapolis-officials-appear-to-backpedal-from-abolishing-police

    Morons in the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter are bowing to public pressure that says DO NOT abolish police...

    Sane patriotic Americans are winning the day..

  82. [82] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Herman Cain was not just some anonymous nobody who drank the Kool-Aid for Dear Leader. He was part of the problem.

    “Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump,” Cain wrote. “PEOPLE ARE FED UP!”

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    the dictionary definition of racism is in the process of expanding precisely because of claims like that that are very literal but not very literate.

    Yes, I understand the penchant of the Left to change the definition of words and to make fantasy words out of whole cloth..

    But that doesn't change the fact that racism is already defined.. And no amount of Left Wing intersectionality carp is going to change the accepted definition amongst sane and patriotic Americans..

    And if someone has to put a race in front of LIVES MATTER or PEOPLE ARE CRIMINALS or PEOPLE ARE RACIST, then that someone is, by definition, a racist..

  84. [84] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Don,

    I was wondering if you’ve approached Putin with your idea? He’s a public figure. He has a TV station and some troll farms. I’m under the impression that he’s pretty good at disseminating ideas. Your Small Money candidate would probably have to agree to destroy America, but at least you’d be off the ground.

    Jill Stein could probably hook you up.

  85. [85] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i repeat, the GDP shrank 33%! did anybody miss that?

  86. [86] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Liz... er, no.

    Look at what growing up has done for you, my dear. Saddling both sides of any issue is a dilution of sincerity.

    LL&P

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    that's exactly the kind of reaction we ought to avoid.

    As I said.. Fat chance..

  88. [88] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Your comment should be removed, James. Don't try to deflect.

  89. [89] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    nypoet22 [85],

    Big Orange did not miss that. It's exactly why he's talking about delaying the election.

  90. [90] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    the public definition has already changed, and that's been the case since 1989's publication of peggy mcintosh's invisible knapsack. after 25 years the dictionaries are finally catching up, which signals precisely the opposite of what you just said. the language has slowly adapted to the facts of the system and how it works (or doesn't). that's not fantasy, it's reality.

    JL

  91. [91] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Was it not you that said, "the first of many", when Michale suggested that I would be the first to retreat from this thinking space if Trump won?

    Indeed it was.

    Courage of conviction trumps dilution of confidence.

    I love to chum the water.

    LL&P

  92. [92] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @jtc,

    you have already had one comment removed for language. if CW gets to it today, that will likely be two.

  93. [93] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    JFC-
    I have no reason to or interest in soliciting aid from Putin, his TV station or his trolls.

    I get more than enough input from trolls such as Listen, Kick and yourself right here in comments like you just posted (84).

  94. [94] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    [85]

    An epic reduction, it went noticed by everyone except those who prefer to look the other way.

    Trump, no doubt, will see it as a win.

    LL&P

  95. [95] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    James T Canuck,

    I love to chum the water.

    Use better language, then.

  96. [96] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    [92]

    Has swearing been abolished?

    I wasn't aware.

    Must have been Michale and his gratutitous use of his given last name...

    Gotcha, I'll 'trim' it down.

    LL&P

  97. [97] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Don,

    Got it. Your thing is really just an obsessive-compulsive fixation with CW.

  98. [98] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Has swearing been abolished?

    Try to understand.

  99. [99] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    the public definition has already changed,

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party definition has already changed.

    There.. FIFY Yer welcome..

    Merriam-Webster's current definition of racism

    a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

    Webster is still the standard, regardless of whether or not you agree with it.

    This is fact, not fantasy.. Whether you agree with it or not..

    Black Lives Matter is just as racist as White Lives Matter..

    All white people are racists is just as racist as all black people are criminals..

    FACT... Whether you agree with it or not..

  100. [100] 
    Michale wrote:

    Use better language, then.

    Agreed...

  101. [101] 
    John M wrote:

    [64] nypoet22 wrote:

    "how many white professors get arrested for locking themselves out of their own house?"

    Indeed, exactly!

    Just like how many white hotel guests get the cops called on them for loitering in the lobby of their own hotel that they are staying at?

  102. [102] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Webster is still the standard, regardless of whether or not you agree with it.

    ...and will continue to be the standard in the near future when it changes (as the dictionary has already said it would), regardless of whether or not you agree with it.

  103. [103] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    from the merriam-webster website:

    Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals.
    ~merriam-webster.com

  104. [104] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Enough of this banter...

    Bill Clinton gives good eulogy...

    Now that's what I expect from 'a President'.

    LL&P

  105. [105] 
    John M wrote:

    [99] Michale wrote:

    "Merriam-Webster's current definition of racism

    a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

    Webster is still the standard, regardless of whether or not you agree with it.

    This is fact, not fantasy.. Whether you agree with it or not..

    Black Lives Matter is just as racist as White Lives Matter..

    All white people are racists is just as racist as all black people are criminals..

    FACT... Whether you agree with it or not.."

    Absolutely NOT Correct:

    he American dictionary Merriam-Webster is going to change its definition of the word racism with its next edition after receiving an email from a young black woman.

    Kennedy Mitchum, a recent graduate of Drake University in Iowa, suggested that the definition should include a reference to systemic oppression.

    An editor then responded, later agreeing to update their definition.

    People were copy-and-pasting the definition to her in an attempt to prove racism could only exist if you believe your race to be superior to another.

    On 28 May, Ms Mitchum emailed Merriam-Webster to point out that racism is "both prejudice combined with social and institutional power. It is a system of advantage based on skin color".

    Merriam-Webster's editorial manager Peter Sokolowski told the BBC that the wording of the second definition of racism will be "even more clear in our next release".

    "It could be expanded ... to include the term systemic and it will certainly have one or two example sentences, at least," he said.

    The people working on the new definition will be consulting the work of experts in black studies, he said, adding that the revision could be done by August.

    In other words: Racism uses social and institutional power to advance and promote a system of advantage based on skin color. It's not just a form of prejudiced belief in your own superiority but your ability to put that belief into actual practice or concrete real world actions that make it racism.

  106. [106] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    34

    The above article goes on to say, factually speaking, that voters in America don't blame President Trump for the pandemic... They look at it as along the lines of a hurricane or force of nature, uncontrollable by mere mortal men..

    I don't know a single person who blames Donald Trump for SARS, of course, but I know for a fact there are millions of people who blame Donald Trump for downplaying the disease from the outset, claiming it was a "Democrat hoax" designed to hurt his reelection, politicizing a serious disease, continuing to further the asinine notion that masks don't manner and everyone needs to pile quickly into their churches by Easter, their places of business yesterday, and fill up those schools because the economy. Trump isn't concerned about people; he's concerned about Donald Trump. He continues to this day to shill for a drug that has been found to be harmful to Americans.

    For the vast majority of Americans, Black Lies Matter = Cop Killings, Toddler Torturing, Rioting, Looting...

    Again, just the FACTS...

    Again, your repetitive opinions and uninformed beliefs are still just your opinion and not facts. You speak for yourself and have no idea whatsoever what the "vast majority of Americans" believe.

    One takes the good with the bad, warts and all.

    This applies equally to Joe Biden, and if we're going to judge candidates by past performance, I'd say Trump is in a world of hurt and death which his actions promote.

    President Trump is a president for the little guy.. The forgotten guy.. The ignored guy...

    Donald Trump is a con artist. He lies to the American people every time he speaks for at least five minutes. That's how forgettable you are to him; he cannot be bothered to speak the facts to you for even five minutes. No thanks. I expect leaders to bend facts; I don't expect them to flat out lie every time they open their mouth. Trump is a pathological liar and con artist; no thanks.

    Those things are still in play today.. And that's what will make 2020 a simple repeat of 2016..

    This ain't 2016. Even if it was, those "vast majority of Americans" you keep talking about actually did vote for someone else at that time, and I would wager they'll do so again in 2020... so you better hope they're strategically located in certain states. I can report for a fact that the Trump campaign has gone dark in Michigan and all but written it off in 2020 because this ain't 2016. It's not too late, of course, but it's getting ever closer.

    Trump and the GOP will do everything they can to cheat (he got impeached for it), to disenfranchise Americans out of their vote, etc. Best make sure to vote early... deliver your vote in person if you can. Don't take your democracy for granted if you'd like to keep it.

    I have spoken. ~ Kuiil, "The Mandalorian"

  107. [107] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    35

    Once again, it must be pointed out that all of the above comes from a LEFT WING rag source...

    Interesting way to refer to your spin, but okay, and I don't think there's anyone here who doesn't understand what an opinion piece is regardless from which source it comes.

    So claims of Pro Trump bias will be thrown on the trash heap of carp and fake news where they belong..

    It's an opinion piece from the Washington Post, Mike. We get it. :)

  108. [108] 
    Michale wrote:

    JM,

    Just like how many white hotel guests get the cops called on them for loitering in the lobby of their own hotel that they are staying at?

    Do you have ANY facts to support that they don't??

    ANY facts at all??

    Of course you don't..

  109. [109] 
    Michale wrote:

    JM,

    he American dictionary Merriam-Webster is going to change its definition of the word racism with its next edition after receiving an email from a young black woman.

    Then, when that happens... IF it happens, come talk to me..

    Until that happens (IF it happens) the facts are clear, undeniable and irrefutable..

  110. [110] 
    Michale wrote:

    Enough of this banter...

    Bill Clinton gives good eulogy...

    Now that's what I expect from 'a President'.

    Bill Clinton got good head..

    Now THAT's what you expect from a Democrat President..

  111. [111] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    JFC (97)-
    Apparently you don't get it.

    Being persistent is not any kind of fixation.

    Trying to discredit someone with moronic claims of a fixation is trolling.

  112. [112] 
    Michale wrote:

    he American dictionary Merriam-Webster is going to change its definition of the word racism with its next edition after receiving an email from a young black woman.

    If this were factually accurate, then Webster could easily change the online definition.

    The fact that they haven't indicates they were just BS'ing that young black lady..

  113. [113] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trying to discredit someone with moronic claims of a fixation is trolling.

    Agreed...

    Although I would amend it to say..

    Trying to discredit someone with a fixation of moronic claims of a fixation is trolling.

  114. [114] 
    Michale wrote:

    http://sjfm.us/pics/metric.jpg

    A-frakin'-men to THAT!! :D

  115. [115] 
    Michale wrote:

    As far as Portland & Seattle and all the other Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party 3rd world hellholes I think President Trump should take a lesson from what the Israelis did with Gaza. Withdraw completely and let the terrorists destroy the place..

    Then President Trump bills the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter so called "leaders" for all the damage done to federal property...

    THAT would be frakin' awesome!!! :D

  116. [116] 
    Michale wrote:

    Tim Graham: Rioting in liberal cities puts left-wing media's hypocritical coverage on full display

    These manufacturers of "news" have the audacity to present themselves daily as the trustworthy referees of our democracy. Few subjects more easily betray aggressive media bias than protests. If you're a conservative protester, you're most likely to be ignored. The networks mostly ignored this year's prayerful March for Life in January, even though President Donald Trump came in person, a historic first.

    ABC anchor David Muir offered 15 seconds, saying: "The president taking the stage at the anti-abortion rights rally. His administration today threatening to withhold federal funds from California for requiring private insurers to cover abortions. California's governor dismissing the threat."

    If conservative protesters are not ignored, they're most likely to be portrayed as a menace to polite society ... even when the protests are nonviolent. Ten years ago, when the tea party assembled on Capitol Hill to oppose the passage of Obamacare as unconstitutional, "ugly" was the network term for the tone of the protests.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/rioting-liberal-cities-media-tim-graham

    Once again.. It's a bona fide fact that no sane patriotic American is going to vote for the kind of violence and hate and bigotry espoused and encouraged by the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

    It simply will not happen..

  117. [117] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW,

    I just occurred to me..

    I am sure WORDPRESS has censor software in place that will automagically catch swear words and not allow them to be posted..

    Just doing my part to make things easier on you.. :D

  118. [118] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    If it's to be my last post here, I'm happy to point out that a REAL president of the United States Of Amwerica is about to speak.

    Have no fear, Trump will lose, and you will be welcomed back into the siblings of nations.

    Farewell.

    LL&P

  119. [119] 
    Michale wrote:

    Have no fear, Trump will lose

    Yea.. Everyone here said the same thing 4 years ago..

    But... darn.. HOW did that end back then?? :D

  120. [120] 
    Michale wrote:

    I can't believe I am saying this, but...

    You don't have to leave, 'Nuck..

    I really can't believe that, unless yer name is Michale, that the Grand Poobah would ban someone for 2 violations of the new NO FOUL LANGUAGE Policy...

    But, then again, I would never have thought that there would ever BE a NO FOUL LANGUAGE policy..

    So, whatdoiknow...

  121. [121] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It isn't a no foul language policy. But, there are limits that any thinking person should understand as I know both of you do.

  122. [122] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    There is a wide gulf of difference between what I said a while ago in jest and what JTC wrote above, after all is said and done, you know.

  123. [123] 
    Michale wrote:

    It isn't a no foul language policy.

    Comments are removed for foul language..

    It's a NO FOUL LANGUAGE policy...

    I am not saying I disagree with it...

    But it's no use denying what it is...

    But I LOVE the NO NAME-CALLING POLICY.. :D It's everything I hoped it would be when I created the moratorium challenge.. :D

  124. [124] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike

    The 1619 Authors are attempting to re-write history to fit their racist views...

    There's already quite a load of revisionist history floating around America and indeed the planet. Look no further than the comments sections of blogs across the Internet, and there you'll find it. Perhaps you're even one who dabbles in revisionist history yourself by inventing political parties that don't exist because it suits your narrative. Don't knock it until you've tried it. Oh, wait!

    The tearing down of monuments to American culture is the supportive effort of that historical re-write...

    Nah. America should have never allowed monuments to be built to the traitors to her country. The statues to the traitors of the United States of America belong in cemeteries and museums and have never belonged in the public square. We don't celebrate traitors in America... or at least we should never have started.

    Why hasn't Dauchau been razed to the ground?? Why is Mauthausen today a solemn place of meditation and mourning and not a hole in the ground?? Why is Auschwitz a place of remembrance and not a mini-mall or condominium complex?? Why is Flossenbürg still standing as a reminder of the depravity of human existence instead of being destroyed with great prejudice??

    Because those places are hallowed ground where thousands of human lives were lost and are buried to this day. They are cemeteries and museums to history now where people are mourned for their suffering at the hands of dictators and traitors. They aren't statues.

    Because these reminders are NEEDED so that they can never happen again...

    There will never again be another Benedict Arnold. Let's build a statute to him so we'll never forget what he did. In fact, let's build one to him in every city in America because there'll never be another Benedict, although definitely some other jerks who remind us of him, for sure.

    While we're at it, we better put Hitler and Mussolini next to Arnold because we dang sure don't want to forget those morons. Have I left anybody out? We could people the world with statutes of all the jerks we might forget if we don't build statues and put them on pedestals. Do we wait until they're deceased traitors or should we get a head start building monuments to Traitorous Trump?

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is trying to sanitize American history. To be more accurate, the Party is trying to sanitize the history of the Party itself..

    Your invention of this fictional Party isn't going to go a long way to convince very many rational people that facts regarding history are all that important to you.

    It's the irony to end all ironies that the vast majority of monuments that the Party wants destroyed are monuments TO and CREATED BY Democrats...

    That's ridiculous and is an exercise in that revisionist history you claimed that you took issue with. You cannot simply judge a person's political party by the part of the country he lived in during the past. There were Northerners who were pro-slavery just as there were Southerners who were anti-slavery. Abraham Lincoln was primaried by his own Republican Party so joined forces with those Democrats who opposed slavery and formed the National Union Party with Lincoln as their presidential nominee and Democrat Johnson as their vice presidential nominee.

    So, it's understandable that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party would want to destroy the vestiges that is part and parcel to the Party itself..

    Utter revisionist history bollocks.

    I'de wager that, gods forbid, if a Nazi-esque Party were to achieve power in Germany, the VERY first order of business they would go about would be to erase all vestiges and reminders of their sick and twisted and violent roots..

    I am telling you they wouldn't have to. There are no monuments to Hitler in Germany, but you will find him in museums. Where they put stuff like that, you know, so they won't forget. So what are you proposing they'd have to tear down? The people of Germany were not all Nazis and still aren't.

    So it is with the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    They are trying to erase all vestiges of their sick and twisted and violent roots..

    But wouldn't that require doing away with all the burning crosses of today and white supremacy symbols you see so many Trump supporters wearing versus just removing the statues of the traitors to America and moving them to museums? If their roots are so sick and twisted, why on Earth would so many Trump supporters want to keep flying all those flags that represent those "twisted and violent" roots? I have not seen a Trump rally that does not have several of those "twisted" flags flying and celebrating those "violent roots." I mean, why isn't that party trying to "sanitize" (to borrow your term) from all those things if they are so "twisted"? Do tell. :)

  125. [125] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    39

    You seem to have quite a fondness for that revisionist history you were complaining about. :)

  126. [126] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    From a 2012 WaPo article Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem

    The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

    And this article is eight years old. Does anybody think the Repugs have gotten better since 2012

    Michale says that "the polls are all that Democrats have going for them." Setting aside my OPINION (as opposed to "the FACT") that Repugs would be delighted to be in Joe & the.Democrat's shoes right now, the Dems have a lot more going for them than the polls.

    They've got Trump and the GOP's miserable track record going for them.

  127. [127] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Comments are removed for foul language..

    I think comments will be removed for inappropriate, asinine, idiotic and otherwise gratuitous use of foul language.

    And, if you can discern that difference, then you may expect to see comments removed for use of foul language.

    But, I'm with you on the complete lack of the always juvenile name-calling that is directed toward fellow Weigantians when responding to each other in the comments sections - it has been a God-sent!

  128. [128] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    42

    Heh!

    As far as the sentiments contained in your comment, you're making too much sense. Donald seems to be caught in another age that no longer exists. Yes, sir, I said it before, and I'll say it again: How long before we see the Trump cult light up a cross? With Trump tweeting out his clueless fear-and-smear racist spew, I imagine it won't be too much longer.

  129. [129] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    43

    I can say that, in my particular case, if some Black Lies Matter scumbag point a weapon at me, I would react the same way.. With 2 in the 10....

    Can you please keep your talk of killing people off this forum?

    Thank you.

  130. [130] 
    Michale wrote:

    I think comments will be removed for inappropriate, asinine, idiotic and otherwise gratuitous use of foul language.

    According to CW, comments with foul language will be removed unless said foul language is actually part of a quote. Excluding movie/TV quotes..

    But, I'm with you on the complete lack of the always juvenile name-calling that is directed toward fellow Weigantians when responding to each other in the comments sections - it has been a God-sent!

    I know... It's something I have wanted since the name-calling contest that brought that and those who indulge in that to the shores of Weigantia...

    Not to toot my own horn, but...

    beep beep..

    :D

  131. [131] 
    Michale wrote:

    According to CW, comments with foul language will be removed unless said foul language is actually part of a quote. Excluding movie/TV quotes..

    As I said, I don't disagree with the policy...

    But it IS the policy..

  132. [132] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    3 Months Of Hell: U.S. Economy Drops 32.9% In Worst GDP Report Ever [npr.org]

    The moose poop has hit the fan and it's starting to spray. August is going to get really ugly if the Republicans don't get their act together on the federal unemployment benefits. And that might not even help. Moratoriums on evictions, both commercial and residential are ending...

    153,578 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  133. [133] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    CW wrote,

    ...That's the "Schoolhouse Rock" version of what should have happened already, in other words.

    What does this euphemism mean?

  134. [134] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale -

    Dude, it's time for an intervention.

    I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you have become downright boring.

    Seriously, man, we all get it. You don't like BLM, and you think Trump's going to win. How many hundreds of comments are you going to post that say exactly the same thing? Here is what the rest of us read over and over and over again:

    Hey, I just read an article from someone who agrees with me, so I'm going to post a whole bunch of it.

    [long excerpt that says exactly the same thing as all the other dozens and dozens of posts I've made today]

    See? BLM sucks! Democrats suck! Trump is going to win! He can't lose! FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT!!!

    I mean, we get it. We really do. That's what you think, and no evidence or contrary thinking is going to budge you from thinking it.

    But it's really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really boring to read it, over and over and over again.

    You used to be a lot more interesting, dude, and that's what even people who disagree with you miss. So please, can you just post the above comment ONCE OR TWICE per article, and let it go at that?

    Seriously, we don't need to read it forty or fifty times every day in order to get your message. In fact, the more you post exactly the same thing, the more the rest of us think: "Wow -- he's really insecure about this, he must have some serious doubts that Trump's going to win." In other words, the exact opposite of the impression you're trying to give.

    Please, for the love of all that's holy, comment about the article I've written. Comment about someone else's comment. Comment about science fiction or music. But put a cork in the repetitious same-old same-old so the rest of us can have a conversation.

    We get it. You don't like Democrats and you think Trump's going to win. You think it is inevitable, which is exactly how you felt in pretty much every election that comes along. Sometimes you are right (2016) and sometimes you are wrong (2012, 2018). But just being a broken record really isn't adding much of anything to the conversation.

    Is any of this getting through? One can only hope...

    (sigh)

    -CW

  135. [135] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    MtnCaddy [133] -

    Really? You never saw this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFroMQlKiag

    Enjoy!

    -CW

  136. [136] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    44

    You DO realize that George Wallace was a Democrat, right?? :D

    So was Donald Trump.

    Doesn't do your position much credibility if you are posting about racist Democrats..

    On the contrary, it gives his position all that much more credibility to point out that there are racists in the Democratic Party... because there are indeed racist Democrats as well as racist Republicans.

    There are even racist opportunists who jump all over the political map and claim whatever Party they believe at the time will get them ahead; there's really only one of those that I know of, and he's been a member of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, the Reform Party, and claimed to have been an Independent... whatever it takes to get ahead, and his name is Donald Trump... con artist extraordinaire, and he preys on the gullible.

  137. [137] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:
  138. [138] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    55

    I just want you to know what was stuck in my head after Sunday night. Not Freddie Mercury's masterpiece or even Disney's "Canada" or a wet 007... but that Prism song of yours that I listened to for chord changes.

    Oh, dang... it's back.

    This is on you! ;)

  139. [139] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Heh. I love singing along with it.

  140. [140] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    So, You're My Reason really is unusual, then! :)

  141. [141] 
    Kick wrote:

    James T Canuck
    61

    I think you're onto something. ;)

  142. [142] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW,

    #142

    How is that any different than the constant Trump/America hate on a daily, oft times HOURLY basis..

    I mean, honestly.. I hardly read the commentaries any more because they are so filled with hate, it just saddens me..

    When I first came to Weigantia a decade and a half + ago, there was a lot of Bush hate et al.. But it was interspersed with a LOT of taking the Democrat Party to task for various things you knew they were doing wrong..

    Now it's just 24/7 Trump/America hate, day in and day out..

    When was the last time you actually seriously read the riot act to the Democrat Party?? Not in years... He**, ooops.. HECK, you barely award a MDDOTW award anymore and when you do, it's for some obscure Democrat in Bumfraq Kentucky that no one has ever heard of..

    What happened to the REALITY based forum???

    I only come here anymore to interact with people like Liz and JL and to get the facts and the reality out there...

    Yer absolutely factually accurate, though..

    It IS time for an intervention..

    But not on my side of the fence...

    The only reason I hang around is that, once President Trump glides to re-election with over 40% of the black American vote, it will be such a shock to ya'all's system that it will snap you back to reality and allow Weigantia to become the forum of yor'....

    If ya'all double down on the hate and the bigotry, I likely won't stick around beyond to make sure all the wagers are settled up with Weigantia to get you covered for the next couple years to come..

    "It's right up your alley. I'll tell you what, why don't you come down, just the pair of ya, for the weekend? I'd love to have the opinion of a paleobotanist as well, I've got a jet standing by at Choteau. I could compensate you by fully funding your dig.... For a further three years."
    -John Hammond, JURASSIC PARK

  143. [143] 
    Michale wrote:

    Here's the question that is on every sane patriotic American's mind..

    "If Basement Biden knows how to fix America...

    Why didn't he tell Obama???"

    The world may never know...

  144. [144] 
    Kick wrote:

    James T Canuck
    65

    Heh. For what it's worth, your gifts are a nice gesture, but I think he'd enjoy them so perish the thought.

    Okay, here's the deal. We got some rules now whereby we are not saying smutty things and are attempting to be fully formed adult citizens of a functioning society:

    So this is for you:

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/07/27/99-days-and-counting/#comment-165832

    ^^^^^ CLICK ^^^^^

    Don't say I never gave you nothing! :)

  145. [145] 
    Michale wrote:

    Please, for the love of all that's holy, comment about the article I've written.

    I will when the Trump hate isn't so prevelant..

    Comment about someone else's comment. Comment about science fiction or music.

    I do.. ALL the time.. And then get attacked for off topic stuff..

    But put a cork in the repetitious same-old same-old so the rest of us can have a conversation.

    In other words, forgo the FACTS and the reality in favor of Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter dogma..

    Is that an order??

  146. [146] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    64

    Great post!

    how many white professors get arrested for locking themselves out of their own house?

    Well, I know this one guy... so that means they all do. Yep... just kidding.

    Great post. :)

  147. [147] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    So, apparently, according to Vick, YES>.

    White guys DO get arrested for locking themselves out of their own house..

    But, regardless, you are factually in error..

    Gates wasn't detained for locking himself out of his house..

    He was detained because he was a dumb-arse and refused to follow the lawful orders of law enforcement..

    Something that ANYONE, white or black or green or purple would have been...

    I know, I know.. You think all cops are racist monsters..

    That is simply another form of bigotry that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is famous... infamous for..

    It's why they are going to lose the election in 96 days..

  148. [148] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    69

    You can justify it however you wish... Even if you are completely wrong.

    You see, the thing is: JL is correct.

    But it's simply a fact that, you single out any specific racial group for whatever you want to claim..

    It's racist..

    Incorrect, although context matters. It's not racist to claim that a race matters regardless of the race that the "color" represents. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous right-wing rhetoric designed to marginalize and easily sweep others under the rug... which more closely matches your definition. :)

  149. [149] 
    Michale wrote:

    In other words, forgo the FACTS and the reality in favor of Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter dogma..

    Is that an order??

    Because, if it is, just tell me now.. I don't have to waste my time here anymore...

  150. [150] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    73

    also the GDP shrank 33%

    Thanks Trump!

  151. [151] 
    Michale wrote:

    White guys DO get arrested for locking themselves out of their own house..

    But, regardless, you are factually in error..

    Gates wasn't detained for locking himself out of his house..

    He was detained because he was a dumb-arse..

    It's like when yer Left Wing rags spew the hysterical and BS headline

    "BLACK MAN SHOT FOR BROKEN TAILLIGHT"

    Of course, we come to find out that the FACTS and the REALITY was that police pulled over a black American for a busted taillight and the black American came out of his car shooting at police...

    That's the kind of "reality" that ya'all and the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter morons spew..

  152. [152] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    83

    But that doesn't change the fact that racism is already defined.. And no amount of Left Wing intersectionality carp is going to change the accepted definition amongst sane and patriotic Americans..

    It isn't racist to claim "black lives matter." What would be racist would be to claim that they didn't matter... you know, like Donald Trump did when he removed a program designed to help black lives and tweeted out that the suburbs would now be safe because of his actions. Now that would be racist and racism.

    Any more questions?

    It isn't racist to say that someone's life matters. It is definitely racist to take actions that prove your belief that they're criminals and that they don't matter. You might want to review the handiwork of Your Orange Worship for what racism looks like. He's the poster child for it.

  153. [153] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Because, if it is, just tell me now.. I don't have to waste my time here anymore...

    That thin gossamer skin is showing through, again. :)

  154. [154] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    93

    I have no reason to or interest in soliciting aid from Putin, his TV station or his trolls.

    I get more than enough input from trolls such as Listen, Kick and yourself right here in comments like you just posted

    And yet, you are, in fact, the only one out of all those people you mentioned to have had the Yellow Card thrown on them for being exactly what you are taking issue with now. You know the rules such as they are now, and yet you've continued to ignore them repeatedly.

    I cannot fathom how you haven't had the Red Card thrown on you already under the circumstances. You definitely deserve it, in my opinion.

    Have a nice day. *waves*

  155. [155] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    97

    Got it. Your thing is really just an obsessive-compulsive fixation with CW.

    Ooooh... nailed it, JFC. :)

  156. [156] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    99

    Black Lives Matter is just as racist as White Lives Matter..

    Correct... neither of those statements are racist.

    Black Lives Matter
    White Lives Matter

    It isn't racist to claim that lives matter. It would be racist to claim you were of a superior race like the right-wing tiki torch carrying idiots and flag waving fools that worship Donald Trump. If Trump wasn't racist, he'd have no reason to tell people he was going to make their suburbs safe by doing away with a program that was designed to help people of color. Full stop.

  157. [157] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    That thin gossamer skin is showing through, again. :)

    I don't think it's a thin skin to want to be able to speak one's mind free from dictatorial influence 1984-ish group think...

    If I am not free to speak my opinion within the confines of policy and rules, then that is simply one more indication of where the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter cult is leading America....

    I mean, I am simply gabber-flasted that Weigantia would have a Name Calling Contest...

    I am totally blown away that it would also have a TOE THE IDEOLOGICAL LINE OR ELSE policy..

    But it DOES indicate where all the Trump/America hate and bigotry is heading...

    And it's NOT a good place that any sane patriotic American wants to go..

  158. [158] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    103

    mic drop! *hat tip*

  159. [159] 
    Michale wrote:

    Vick,

    It isn't racist to claim that lives matter.

    But you are not stating that "lives matter".. You are singling out a specific race to indicate that specific lives based on race, specifically above all other lives, matter.

    And THAT is pure unadulerated and unequivocal racism..

    No matter how you try to spin or sugar coat it...

    The fact that you can't see this reality is exactly why your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party will lose in Nov..

    Because real, sane and patriotic Americans recognize the real and blatant racism and bigotry coming from your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party...

  160. [160] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    I mean, I am simply gabber-flasted that Weigantia would have a Name Calling Contest...

    Translation:

    "I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here."

    I am totally blown away that it would also have a TOE THE IDEOLOGICAL LINE OR ELSE policy..

    Try reading for once. It's not the content but the shear volume that CW seems to have a problem with. Saying you hate BLM and Trump will win is different than posting walls of text ad nauseum with the same opinion. I do not see anything in CW's comment that you can't express your opinion. It's the trying to drown out everyone else with your opinion that seems to be the problem...

  161. [161] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    111

    Apparently you don't get it.

    You are mistaken, Don. He gets it just fine.

    Being persistent is not any kind of fixation.

    It is when you've had things explained to you in no uncertain terms like you have yet continue to carry on in the manner you're doing.

    Take it to email, please. Thank you. :)

  162. [162] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    126

    Yep!

  163. [163] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bashi,

    Tomato Tomatoo

    The simple fact is, I am being asked to censor my viewpoint...

    And it's not surprising considering that THAT is the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party way...

    The mere fact that I have so many factual and reality-based examples of my view point should indicate to ya'all how utterly fraked and NON-American ya'all's position is...

  164. [164] 
    Michale wrote:

    Vick,

    Take it to email, please. Thank you. :)

    I was going to suggest the EXACT same thing in my issue as well.. :D

    Funny how that is, eh? :D

  165. [165] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    The simple fact is, I am being asked to censor my viewpoint...

    Only if your viewpoint depends on quantity and not content...

  166. [166] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale [142] -

    How is that any different than the constant Trump/America hate on a daily, oft times HOURLY basis..

    I mean, honestly.. I hardly read the commentaries any more because they are so filled with hate, it just saddens me..

    When I first came to Weigantia a decade and a half + ago, there was a lot of Bush hate et al.. But it was interspersed with a LOT of taking the Democrat Party to task for various things you knew they were doing wrong..

    Now it's just 24/7 Trump/America hate, day in and day out..

    OK, let's go back and check the record, because you have suspiciously left a large chunk of it out...

    [Reviews 40,000 comments Michale made during Barack Obama's presidency...]

    Let's see...

    Hourly hatefests towards Obama/America? Check.

    So filled with hate it saddens me? Check.

    Obama hate 24/7? Check.

    So in other words, what you are saying is:

    "I should be allowed to spew hatred towards a Democratic president all the time, but when there's a Republican in the White House nobody else is allowed to do what I've been doing for 8 solid years."

    Is that about it?

    Talk about your thin skins... after all, we're all just following in your footsteps. You apparently can dish it out, but heaven forbid you have to take it in return. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, dude.

    I mean, seriously, just go back to any column between 2009 and 2016 and read ANY random comment you wrote. See what I mean? They're not that hard to find.

    -CW

  167. [167] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    132

    3 Months Of Hell: U.S. Economy Drops 32.9% In Worst GDP Report Ever [npr.org]

    32.9%... Wow, that sounds worse than the 33% JL had posted. ;)

    The moose poop has hit the fan and it's starting to spray. August is going to get really ugly if the Republicans don't get their act together on the federal unemployment benefits. And that might not even help. Moratoriums on evictions, both commercial and residential are ending...

    Buckle up, America. It's going to get worse as the Trumplicans drag this out. If this goes on very much longer, I am going to begin to wonder if there isn't some sinister reason behind wanting so many people displaced by the GOP inaction.

  168. [168] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [142]

    Michale wrote:

    ...The only reason I hang around is that, once President Trump glides to re-election with over 40% of the black American vote, it will be such a shock to ya'all's system that it will snap you back to reality…

    Michale you appeared to accept the wager, writing a few days ago,

    MC,

    Even though you are a confessed troll, I have decided to reinstate the wager for you and JM...

    I have done this after careful consultations and decided that it would be a boon to help out CW and Weigantia.. The Grand Poobah will be thrilled to receive such monetary funding for Weigantia..

    And I'll be thrilled that it's provided by morons who actually thought President Trump would lose when ALL the facts prove otherwise.. :D

    So do we have a wager? Or are you all talk and no walk?

    Terms:

    Black vote (BV) for Trump over 50% MC pays CW $200
    BV over 40% MC pays $150
    BV over 33% MC pays $100
    BV over 25% MC pays $50

    BV UNDER 25% Michale pays $50
    BV under 20% Michale pays $100
    BV under 15% Michale pays $150
    BV under 8%** Michale pays $200

    **The black support Trump won in 2016

    Wager shall be determined as follows (as posted by John M)

    As pointed out by C.W. ONLY EXIT POLLING gives that kind of racial breakdown. So if you accept it based on an average of exit polling data by all networks: NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC then you have a DEAL.

    Please confirm our wager by noting this comment's number and copying & pasting:

    MtnCaddy you better start saving up your money, foole!
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Or even a simple "Yes."

    Do you want a side bet of $200 on Trump wins re election?

    Trump is re elected MC pays $200 to CW
    Trump is not re elected Michale pays $200 to CW

    AS I wrote,

    Excellent, Brother Michale! I knew you'd agree that NOBODY really "loses" this wager as the winnings go to CW.com, yea verily!

    So SHOW ME THE STRENGTH OF YOUR CONVICTIONS or it'll be clear to all that you've here just to troll and not to contribute in any way to Weigantia.

  169. [169] 
    Michale wrote:

    [Reviews 40,000 comments Michale made during Barack Obama's presidency...]

    Did you actually actively review them??

    No you did not.. You simply posted what you THINK they were..

    Which proves my point exactly...

    Say the word and tell me that I can't post any more facts or reality and I'll leave..

    That's where this is heading anyways..

    So why not just make it official...

  170. [170] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale [163] -

    The simple fact is, I am being asked to censor my viewpoint...

    Oh, poor, poor pitiful you.

    Nope, you're not being asked to censor anything (well, except the profanity). You are being asked to MODERATE the QUANTITY of repeating that same viewpoint over and over and over again.

    There's a difference. Go back and read what I read -- where do I ask you to censor your viewpoint? All I ask is that you express your viewpoint a few times, and then not repeat it every 5 minutes for the rest of the day.

    You speak of the days of old on this blog, well I remember when one daily column didn't generate 200-600 comments. People discussed the column, went off on tangents, argued with each other, and had some fun along the way. Instead of having to scroll through miles of you ignoring all evidence not to your liking and proclaiming every opinion you have as FACT FACT FACT when they are actually just that -- one man's opinion.

    "But I was right in 2016!" Yep, and you were wrong in 2012 and 2018. Nobody knows what the future will bring, sorry to have to break it to you.

    -CW

  171. [171] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Here's a good example for you Michale -

    You used to rip on Republicans when they deserved it. So... how would you rate Mitch McConnell's actions over the past 2.5 months?

    In other words, what did you think of the actual article you are supposedly commenting upon?

    -CW

  172. [172] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    []

    CW wrote,

    "Wow -- he's really insecure about this, he must have some serious doubts that Trump's going to win."

    IF you wuss out on the wagers that will confirm the above. I bet I don't hear back from you. Repugs run away when the going gets rough.

  173. [173] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    133

    ...That's the "Schoolhouse Rock" version of what should have happened already, in other words.

    What does this euphemism mean?

    I hope I'm not being too repetitive because I answer them as I read down the page, but that isn't a "euphemism," it's a teaching cartoon:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFroMQlKiag

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I'm just a bill.
    Yes, I'm only a bill.
    And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  174. [174] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale [169] -

    You're not serious.

    (1) You're right, guilty as charged. I did not actually review 40,000 comments from you.

    (2) Because I didn't have to. I remember them full well.

    Why is it so hard for you to understand that people are annoyed when you post 100-200 comments that all SAY EXACTLY THE SAME THING?!?

    When did I say you couldn't say it? Here is exactly what I said: "So please, can you just post the above comment ONCE OR TWICE per article, and let it go at that?"

    It's not the content, it is the quantity. So stop with the whining about how you're being censored, because you're not.

    What does everyone else think? Is there one voice who will speak up and say "I actually enjoy reading Michale making the same point six or seven dozen times each and every day?"

    Anyone?

    Sigh.

    -CW

  175. [175] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW,

    You used to rip on Republicans when they deserved it. So... how would you rate Mitch McConnell's actions over the past 2.5 months?

    He has some rough spots... I don't agree with everything he says..

    Not, tell me where you condemn the Democrat Party for the last 4 years..

    You can't because you don't...

    (1) You're right, guilty as charged. I did not actually review 40,000 comments from you.

    Thank you for proving my point..

    Why is it so hard for you to understand that people are annoyed when you post 100-200 comments that all SAY EXACTLY THE SAME THING?!?

    Because they don't.. They are all in response to different actions by the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

    Actions that YOU fail to condemn at EVERY juncture..

    What does everyone else think? Is there one voice who will speak up and say "I actually enjoy reading Michale making the same point six or seven dozen times each and every day?"

    Anyone?

    The fact that you poll everyone, who are as much of a President Trump/America hater as you are simply proves my point that I don't get a fair shake here..

    There was a time when you welcomed the counter-balance to your dogma BECAUSE it kept you honest and part of reality... Now, you have no interest in being honest and part of reality...

    But now, because you REALLY hate President Trump, that counter-balance is no longer welcome..

    Fine.. Say the word and I'll leave...

    That's all you have to do...

  176. [176] 
    Michale wrote:

    Go on...

    Say the word that a counter-balance to the hysterical and BS Trump/America hate and bigotry is no longer welcome..

    I'll be happy to leave....

    Just say the word...

  177. [177] 
    Michale wrote:

    I mean, seriously..

    I have better things to do than to see my wife and children and grand children constantly demonized and vilified and attacked in the most disgusting and profane manner, that YOU turn a blind eye to, SOLELY for Party slavery purposes...

    Tell me that FACTS and REALITY are no longer welcome here in Weigantia and I'll live..

    Balls in your court..

    Just let me know...

  178. [178] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [176]

    Poor self pitying Michale wrote,

    Go on...

    Say the word that a counter-balance to the hysterical and BS Trump/America hate and bigotry is no longer welcome..

    I'll be happy to leave....

    Just say the word...

    You're wussing out on the wagers, aren't you? No surprise.

  179. [179] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    140

    So, You're My Reason really is unusual, then! :)

    Compared to the other music of Prism, it most definitely is.

    JL had posted a nice song by Moxy Früvous, and I kept listening for multiple songs after that one played out. Well, after that, I had one of those Moxy Früvous songs stuck in my head until it was finally replaced (the one with the word "pie" in it). So much so that some of my crew were asking me what the heck I was singing, and it was this:

    King of Spain

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Once I was the King of Spain
    Now I eat humble pie
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  180. [180] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [176]

    No, the balls in your court, tough guy. Are you going to run away and hide?

  181. [181] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    (Jeopardy theme song playing)

  182. [182] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    (This is the moment when Michale states that he's off to be with his "lovely wife."

    Or maybe he'll just slink away without another word.

  183. [183] 
    Michale wrote:

    (This is the moment when Michale states that he's off to be with his "lovely wife."

    Or maybe he'll just slink away without another word.

    As usual, you are completely and utterly wrong again..

    It's a habit with you...

  184. [184] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    So whaddup with the wagers, tough guy. Yes or no?

  185. [185] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Moscow Mitch says we're having an election on time.

  186. [186] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    (here comes some lame excuse)

  187. [187] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Michale's posts don't bother me, but I won't miss them.

    If there are less of them I might actually read some/ more of them.

    It would be nice if those that post nonsensical purposeful misinterpretations, deflecting and reset questions comments instead of actually discussing things like adults would grow up or find someplace else to play childish games.

    It would also be nice if people that started conversations would finish them. (see comment 90 from Trump's Fauci Envy)

  188. [188] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    I gave my thoughts.. Either CW quits with the bigotry and the political based harassment or he tells me that my function to bring a counterpoint, reality based and factual process is no longer welcome here in Weigantia...

    The ball is in HIS court....

    Dominoes delivers in about 30 mins... Hopefully we'll know by then if Weigantia descends into another bigoted run o the mill Limbaugh-esque hate-fest..

    Or if it actually welcomes differing fact-based opinions...

    Time will tell..

  189. [189] 
    Michale wrote:

    So whaddup with the wagers, tough guy. Yes or no?

    That depends on CW....

  190. [190] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Dude, when you lose both wagers (if you have the courage to back your mouth with your money) it'll only be $400 out of your pocket. Hey, you're the guy who brags about how your CW's number one contributor, so what's the difference?

    Oh, yeah. It would be losing face (and money) wouldn't it?

  191. [191] 
    Michale wrote:

    Poor self pitying Michale wrote,

    I understand that you don't have someone you love as much as I love my wife, my children and my grand-children and you don't get upset when they are demonized and vilified as much as mine have been...

    I pity you that you can't feel that.... I really do...

  192. [192] 
    Kick wrote:

    PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

    Donald Trump may very well get reelected, but I make you this promise -- and you can take this one to the bank -- he won't be doing it with "over 40% of the black American vote" unless he cheats.

    Donald Trump will be lucky to reach the 8% of the "black American vote" he received in 2016 and will most likely received somewhere in the 4-6% range depending on the exit polling.

    Seriously. :)

  193. [193] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Michale you better start saving up your money, foole!
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  194. [194] 
    Michale wrote:

    Dude, when you lose both wagers (if you have the courage to back your mouth with your money) it'll only be $400 out of your pocket. Hey, you're the guy who brags about how your CW's number one contributor, so what's the difference?

    Son, I have donated FIVE TIMES that much to Weigantia in my day...

    But I refuse to do so when the powers that be turn a blind eye to my contributions and ignore that Weigantia wouldn't EXIST without me...

  195. [195] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Kick-
    CW was wrong when giving me the yellow card.

    But just as the mistakes made by politicians that took big money in the past can be forgiven as long as they do the right thing now, CW is forgiven provided he does not repeat his mistake.

  196. [196] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [192]

    Kick wrote:

    PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

    Donald Trump may very well get reelected, but I make you this promise -- and you can take this one to the bank -- he won't be doing it with "over 40% of the black American vote" unless he cheats.

    Donald Trump will be lucky to reach the 8% of the "black American vote" he received in 2016 and will most likely received somewhere in the 4-6% range depending on the exit polling.

    Seriously. :)

    What happened to Michale? Michaaale! Come out to plaaaaay!

  197. [197] 
    Michale wrote:

    OH well, Dominoes delivered early... :D

    So, I'll check in in the morning whether Weigantia will descend into pure unadulterated hatred and bigotry and disgusting & blatant attacks on wives, children and grand children of commenters...

    Or if it will actually support differing opinions that DON'T toe the line of the status quo Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    I'll check in in the morning to find out which way things go....

  198. [198] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:
  199. [199] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale -

    The only one asking you to leave is you. Not me, sorry.

    You used to be able to take constructive criticism. Apparently you can't any more. That's a shame, but it doesn't mean you are somehow being banned or censored.

    Deal with it.

    -CW

  200. [200] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    147

    So, apparently, according to Vick, YES>.

    What part of "just kidding" was unclear? It was an "anecdotal" joke about how if one person says it or had it happen to them, then it's proof that it applies to everyone similarly situated. You may know people who use anecdotal evidence as proof for an entire group? Okay then, it was a joke about that. :)

    White guys DO get arrested for locking themselves out of their own house..

    He said "professors." How many "white professors"?

    I know of a whole whopping zero of them.

    That is simply another form of bigotry that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is famous... infamous for..

    The Party that only exists in your imagination and not on this planet.

    It's why they are going to lose the election in 96 days..

    I don't think Donald Trump will win unless he cheats. The GOP has gone dark in Michigan and has all but abandoned it at the present time. Could that change? Sure. Is it likely to change? No. :)

  201. [201] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    157

    If I am not free to speak my opinion within the confines of policy and rules, then that is simply one more indication of where the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter cult is leading America....

    That Party doesn't exist no matter how many times you post it.

    I mean, I am simply gabber-flasted that Weigantia would have a Name Calling Contest...

    It's no different than a bumper sticker contest to name something. I believe it was, after all, Your Orange Worship who was the catalyst for the name calling of his political opponents and all the chants of "lock her up." I'm guessing if Donald Trump didn't bring the gutter to American politics that you'd have never seen a reciprocal type issue on this forum.

    I am totally blown away that it would also have a TOE THE IDEOLOGICAL LINE OR ELSE policy..

    I must have missed that.

  202. [202] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    159

    But you are not stating that "lives matter"..

    Yes, that is exactly what I am doing.

    You are singling out a specific race to indicate that specific lives based on race, specifically above all other lives, matter.

    Perhaps you have confused me with one of those tiki torch carrying racist right-wing white supremacists. No, sir. I saying exactly "black lives matter" and nothing more than that. If you're reading more into it, then you're simply mistaking my meaning. Black lives matter; they definitely do. Women matter. If you think that's misogynist and it means that men don't matter, then you're simply reading more into it. Not rocket science.

    And THAT is pure unadulerated and unequivocal racism..

    Incorrect. Black lives matter. That doesn't mean that other lives don't matter or I'm excluding any other lives; it simply means black lives matter.

    How can I get my point across. *thinking* Okay.

    Black cats matter. <--- Having said that, it doesn't mean that I don't believe white cat don't matter or calico cats don't matter, it just means what it says: Black cats matter. Got that?

    No matter how you try to spin or sugar coat it...

    It's not spin... just third-grade simple English, actually. Black lives matter.

    The fact that you can't see this reality is exactly why your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party will lose in Nov..

    I'm not a Democrat no matter how many times you flat out post that lie.

    Because real, sane and patriotic Americans recognize the real and blatant racism and bigotry coming from your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party...

    I'm not a Democrat, and that Party doesn't exist. Lies do not magically become facts if you post them repeatedly; they just don't.

    Have a nice day. Study your simple English phrases. ;)

  203. [203] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    160

    Translation:

    "I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here."

    I literally thought that exact same analogy, and then I remembered EM and I having our posts eaten for typing "cas_ino" so I didn't post it! Too funny! :)

  204. [204] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Random thought:

    Remember, long ago in the BT times (before Trump), when conservatives would heap scorn on liberals for "playing the victim card"? Manly conservatives would never do such a thing, because they were tougher than that. They laughed and laughed at liberals trying to "out-victim" one another.

    Yeah, those were the days, weren't they?

    Heh.

    Trump, earlier this week:

    He's got a very good approval rating. I like that, it's good. Because remember, he's working for this administration. He's working with us.... And he's got this high approval rating. So why don't I have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration, with respect to the virus? We should have a very high -- because what we have done in terms of -- we're just reading off about the masks and the gowns and the ventilators and numbers that nobody's seen. So it sort of is curious. A man works for us, with us, very closely, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, very highly thought of. And yet they're highly thought of, but nobody likes me. It can only be my personality.

    Waaaahhh! Wahhhhh! I'm the victim! Everybody hates me! Wahhhh!

    Sigh.

    -CW

  205. [205] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    175

    The fact that you poll everyone, who are as much of a President Trump/America hater as you are simply proves my point that I don't get a fair shake here..

    Mike, you're not Trump.

  206. [206] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    185

    Moscow Mitch says we're having an election on time.

    Poor Donald. The beers are coming off the wall at a fairly regular rate, and the idea he floated to postpone the election isn't catching on with the GOP. Winning!

    Didn't Trump take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States? Do you think he's even read that thing or have any idea what it says? It appears he doesn't.

  207. [207] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    194

    But I refuse to do so when the powers that be turn a blind eye to my contributions and ignore that Weigantia wouldn't EXIST without me...

    Now that's funny!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  208. [208] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    195

    CW was wrong when giving me the yellow card.

    Oh, I respectfully disagree. Your language and posting habits being such as they are.

    But just as the mistakes made by politicians that took big money in the past can be forgiven as long as they do the right thing now, CW is forgiven provided he does not repeat his mistake.

    You're funny. :)

  209. [209] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Kick [206] -

    I've been thinking that Biden should challenge Trump during the debate, something along the lines of:

    "You say I'm mentally 'not there'? Really Donnie? OK, quick quiz -- what year did the Spanish Flu happen in?"

    When Trump says "1917" (as he has repeatedly for the past few months), jump in with:

    "BZZZZT! Wrong answer, thanks for playing! It was 1918. It's a fact. You can look it up. But you haven't. You keep getting this wrong over and over again and nobody has bothered to tell you that you are flat-out wrong. OK, let's try a tougher one. You keep bragging about Article II of the Constitution, can you quote one single sentence or phrase from it? Just one? If that's too hard, how about you quote one sentence from ANYWHERE in the Constitution? You can't, because you've never read it! Go ahead -- I dare you!"

    I know, I know, it'll never happen, but it's fun to think about.

    :-)

    -CW

  210. [210] 
    Kick wrote:

    Chris Weigant
    209

    Exactly this!

    "You say I'm mentally 'not there'? Really Donnie? OK, quick quiz -- what year did the Spanish Flu happen in?"

    Yes, he does always say 1917! Gets it wrong every single time. But what do you want to bet Donnie wouldn't answer but use the question containing the term "Spanish Flu" as his justification for using the term "China Flu" over a century later and go off on one of his word salad tangents about that! He's slippery, that one.

    When Trump says "1917" (as he has repeatedly for the past few months), jump in with:

    "BZZZZT! Wrong answer, thanks for playing! It was 1918. It's a fact. You can look it up. But you haven't. You keep getting this wrong over and over again and nobody has bothered to tell you that you are flat-out wrong.

    [My suggested addition] And another thing, Donnie, I shouldn't think I should have to tell you this fact because your grandfather who immigrated to the United States from Bavaria was walking one day with your father and became extremely ill and died at home the following day, diagnosed with pneumonia but turned out to be one of the earliest cases of H1N1 of the 1918 influenza pandemic. So how you don't already know this is beyond me and truly mind-boggling beyond belief.

    OK, let's try a tougher one. You keep bragging about Article II of the Constitution, can you quote one single sentence or phrase from it? Just one? If that's too hard, how about you quote one sentence from ANYWHERE in the Constitution? You can't, because you've never read it! Go ahead -- I dare you!"

    This! But would we put it past him to whine some gibberish about "blah, blah, whine, whine, impeachment," and he'd be technically correct because of Section 4 of Article II!

    I know, I know, it'll never happen, but it's fun to think about.

    Yes, it sure is. Speaking of debates, I think Biden will do just fine in a one-on-one debate with Trump. Because it won't be one of those affairs with 10 people and too much going on in myriad directions. Let the games begin. :)

  211. [211] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    when people refer to themselves as "persistent" it means they're both too stubborn to change how they act and don't care enough about themselves to change how the rest of the world sees them. ah well.

    there's no law against stupid
    ~mark cuban

  212. [212] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Nypoet-
    Not even close.

    So all those people that were persistent in opposing slavery were the ones that were too stubborn to change how they act?

    Actually people that are persistent can often care enough about other people and what needs to change in the world that they don't care how they are seen by those that are stubbornly resisting the change that is needed.

    I suppose there is also no law against not making any sense. Lucky you.

  213. [213] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    So all those people that were persistent in opposing slavery were the ones that were too stubborn to change how they act?

    campaign finance inequity is not slavery, and you're no abolitionist.

  214. [214] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @don,

    the thing that all successful movements for change in US history have in common, from abolition to metoo, is that a great many of the people who initially shared the idea chose to join up. if people in your immediate purview are not choosing to join you, i have 3 suggestions.

    1. try offering them pie

    2. try changing your idea to appeal to a broader base

    3. “Or, better yet, why don’t you take a personal check out of your checkbook, roll it up real tight, and then cram it!'”
    ~roseanne barr on SNL

    JL

  215. [215] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    214

    1. try offering them pie

    You simply cannot go wrong with pie. :)

  216. [216] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Nypoet-
    Yes I am an abolitionist. I am trying to abolish big money candidates from our political process and free millions of citizens in economic slavery.

    One other thing successful movements for change had was that people found out they existed. Until people found out they existed they could not decide to join up because they did not know the idea for the movement existed.

    Not any constructive suggestions.

    The only one that could be even close to considered serious is ridiculous.

    Yes we oppose slavery but in order to have broader appeal we will say that keeping people as slaves is okay when they are alive so we only oppose keeping people as slaves after they are dead.

    Kind of defeats the purpose.

    But that is typical around here. Probably why so many here support the Deathocrats whose job it is to defeat the purpose of anything that might be good for ordinary citizens.

    You are making quite a fool of yourself.

  217. [217] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Kick-
    You seem to enjoy letting everyone know that when someone like Nypoet makes a fool of themselves that you can do it too!

  218. [218] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    217

    You seem to enjoy letting everyone know that when someone like Nypoet makes a fool of themselves that you can do it too!

    After all this time and effort, you still seem quite incapable of grasping the simple concept that JL's persistence in the advancement of his wonderful pie is the equivalent of your enthusiasm for your venture. When I support his venture because I like the pie idea, it is in no way whatsoever any different than someone who would sing the praises of your political efforts... if there was any such person in existence, of course.

    I'm beginning to think you're just jealous of pie, but you needn't be. The world is big enough for JL's pie and your pie in the sky fantastical purity test.

    So to recap: I will choose chocolate and whipped cream with sprinkles over unicorns that fart rainbows every day of the week. :)

  219. [219] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Kick-
    One thing I have grasped is that you are only capable of childish trolling games and are full of digested pie.

  220. [220] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    210

    One thing I have grasped is that you are quite capable of droning on and on endlessly and whining incessantly and prattling on and on repetitively about the poster who resembles you the most, and you believe he looks foolish but cannot seem to grasp the concept that he's emulating you.

    Have a nice day! :)

  221. [221] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:
  222. [222] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

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