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Friday Talking Points -- Male Chauvinist Pig Withdraws Bid For Fed Seat

[ Posted Friday, May 3rd, 2019 – 17:54 UTC ]

Those are strong words to use in a subtitle, as well as so dated as to almost be anachronistic. But we feel this is the perfect phrase to sum up Stephen Moore's announcement that he's withdrawing from consideration for a seat on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. Because apparently Moore has been in a coma since just before Billie Jean King beat Bobby Riggs in a tennis match billed as the "Battle Of The Sexes."

Moore's attitudes on gender fit neatly in to this decades-ago era of rampant misogyny, nowhere more obvious than how he sees the sporting world. He has opined at length on women in sports, dismissing professional women tennis players as "inferior" to men -- who simply do not deserve to be paid anywhere near what they are (if they even should be paid at all). But the sport he gets most worked up about is basketball. Here is an extended rant from Moore from an article he wrote for the National Review back in 2002. It begins, naturally, with a healthy dose of testosterone:

Ah, March, the greatest month of the year. This is the season where I return to bachelorhood, lock myself into the TV room and tell my wife that I'll see her sometime in April. Oh, and by the way, keep those three crying kids out of my hair for the next three weeks.

Charming. Oh, and go fix me a sandwich while you're at it. But he really gets going on the subject of how even peripheral inclusion of women into the male bastion that is (or, according to Moore, should be) basketball is a sign of the impending apocalypse. Or something. Here are his first two manly suggestions for improving the situation:


1. No Women. How outrageous is this? This year they allowed a woman ref a men's NCAA game. Liberals celebrate this breakthrough as a triumph for gender equity. The NCAA has been touting this as example of how progressive they are. I see it as an obscenity. Is there no area in life where men can take vacation from women? What's next? Women invited to bachelor parties? Women in combat? (Oh yeah, they've done that already.) Why can't women ref he [sic] women's games and men the men's games.

I can't wait to see the first lady ref have a run in with Bobby Knight.

This speaks to a bigger and more serious social problem in America: the feminization of basketball generally. Turn on ESPN or even the networks these days and you're as likely to see women playing as men. USA Today devotes nearly half its basketball coverage to the gals: Stephen F. Austin beat Mary Washington 65-62. Do I have to shout in [sic] on a mountaintop? I don't care!

No one does. We are being force fed lady hoops. I have never in my life met anyone who actually liked watching women's basketball. I don't even know any women who like women's basketball. There's no such thing (I hope) of [sic] an office pool for the women's NCAA tournament.

And while I'm venting on the subject, here's another travesty: in playground games and rec leagues these days, women now feel free to play with the men -- uninvited in almost every case. Look, I acknowledge that some of the girls these days are half decent. They can shoot the rock. But that's not the point. When I play basketball, I push, I hack, I elbow, I bite, and I swear like a sailor. It can get pretty competitive and, well, vulgar. I think I speak for almost all men when I respectfully tell the ladies that we don't want you anywhere around during these precious moments of male bonding.

There's no joy in dunking over a girl. Never mind that I can't dunk (except on the eight-foot baskets). If I could, I wouldn't celebrate dunking over someone named Tina. I can't see myself staring her down and roaring: "In your face, sucka!!" And the girls are always trying to fast break. Look, I'm 42 years old, if I try to get out on the break, I'm likely to pull a hamstring.

But I digress. Back to the NCAAs [sic]. Here's the rule change I propose: No more women refs, no women announcers, no women beer venders, no women anything. There is, of course, an exception to this rule. Women are permitted to participate, if and only if, they look like Bonnie Bernstein. The fact that Bonnie knows nothing about basketball is entirely irrelevant.

2. Bonnie Bernstein should wear a halter top. This is a no-brainer, CBS. What in the world are you waiting for? To quote the immortal Wayne of Wayne's World, "If Bonnie were president of the United States, she'd be Babe-raham Lincoln."

Still think "male chauvinist pig" is somehow overstating the case? We don't.

[Oh, and by the way, it was Garth who uttered that line, not Wayne. Get your movie quotes right, dude!]

Think this is a man that should be determining fiscal policy for the entire American economy? Well, to be scrupulously fair, this was an article written a while back, and rampant sexism and misogyny isn't directly related to how Moore sees the economy. So let's check out something he said about the labor force in 2016, only three years ago:

During a debate about minimum wage in 2016, Moore claimed that low labor force participation could be corrected by allowing children to work.

"I'm a radical on this; I'd get rid of a lot of these child labor laws. I want people starting to work at 11, 12," he said during the debate.

No wonder his own kids are crying! Maybe they got their very own character-building start in life by working in sweatshops and linen mills? We shudder to even imagine it, but his own words force us to. This is the man that Donald Trump wanted to be seated on the Federal Reserve, folks. We were all saved from this international embarrassment by a handful of Republican senators (led by Joni Ernst), who torpedoed Moore's nomination this week by essentially saying to Trump: "He'll be confirmed when (male chauvinist) pigs fly...."

But let's shift to more positive news for a moment. Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado officially entered the Democratic presidential nomination race this week, bringing the total number of Democratic candidates up to either 20 or 22 candidates, depending on how you count (the difference is whether you count the two major non-politicians running or not). A total of seven senators are now running, which is 15 percent of the total number of Democrats currently in the Senate. But the field may still not be set quite yet, as Montana Governor Steve Bullock appears about to make some sort of announcement of his own. Two other prominent Democrats are still considering a run as well (Stacey Abrams and Bill de Blasio), so we're probably not quite done growing the field yet.

There was one poll out this week which was kind of interesting in a wonky way, because instead of reading the whole list of Democratic candidates, the pollsters just asked it as an open question: "Who do you support for the Democratic nomination?" and didn't prompt respondents with any names. When asked, a whopping 54 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents essentially chose "undecided" by not naming anyone. This figure hasn't changed much since January, when it was 56 percent. Because of the large "undecided" vote, the actual candidates got a lot lower numbers than we've seen in the other polls: Joe Biden got only 13 percent, followed by Bernie Sanders (9 percent), Pete Buttigieg (5 percent), Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren (4 percent), Beto O'Rourke (3 percent), Amy Klobuchar and Cory Booker (1 percent), and all the others not even chalking up a single percent.

This could mean people are either (A) still making up their minds which candidate to support, (B) waiting for the debates to make a choice, (C) not paying any attention to the race at all yet, or (D) some combination of the above. But it certainly is something to keep in mind when considering the other polls (all of which prompt the respondent with a list of names). Support for all the candidates isn't running particularly deep this early in the game.

Speaking of individual candidacies, Kamala Harris had a good week, but we'll have more to say about that in a bit. Pete Buttigieg wins the honor of being the first recipient of a sleazy false attack from the right, as it was revealed that two GOP operatives tried to recruit young men to make false sexual assault allegations against Buttigieg. The Daily Beast uncovered this whole sordid story. While Buttigieg is the first to be targeted by lies and innuendo by right-wing whackadoodles, he certainly won't be the last.

And we've got the first Joe Biden gaffe, if it can even be called that (we'll see whether he tries to backtrack from it or not). Biden was in Iowa and made a rather tone-deaf argument about China. Here is what got Biden into hot water:

China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man.... They can't figure out how they're going to deal with the corruption that exists within the system. I mean, you know, they're not bad folks, folks. But guess what? They're not competition for us.

China is not an economic competitor to America? Um, well, that may have been true at one point in Joe Biden's personal history, but it certainly sounds pretty out of touch today. As many have pointed out, from both the left and the right. Biden's closest competitor in the polls is Bernie Sanders, who had this reaction: "Since the China trade deal I voted against, America has lost over three million manufacturing jobs. It's wrong to pretend that China isn't one of our major economic competitors. When we are in the White House we will win that competition by fixing our trade policies."

OK, as usual we have far too much to cover and far too little time, so we're just going to cover the rest of the week in lightning-round fashion.

Attorney General William Barr appeared before a Senate committee this week to answer questions, and then refused to appear before a House committee. This only adds to the growing perception that Barr may well go down in history as one of the most partisan and political attorneys general in modern times. He apparently sees his job as nothing short of protecting Trump against all the slings and arrows misfortune throws at him. Several Democratic senators did a fine job of grilling Barr on his lies, past and present, but the House Democrats have been denied calling him a liar to his face in the same room he uttered those lies a few weeks back. Next up may be holding Barr in contempt of Congress, so stay tuned!

In healthcare news, the Trump administration now officially has taken the position that Obamacare should be terminated by the courts in its entirety, which would throw over 20 million people off their health insurance, and take the rest of us back to the days when pre-existing conditions and lifetime caps and all the rest of it are once again allowed. As one Washington Post columnist reminded us:

You've probably forgotten that a little over a month ago, Trump promised that Republicans were about to come up with a health-care plan that would be "spectacular." Then just days later, he decided that they wouldn't actually be doing that, and all that spectacularness would have to wait until after the 2020 election. They can't produce a plan, because they know that one that actually embodies conservative principles would be politically disastrous. So they have to just keep putting it off.

So, once again, the Republicans will be running on destroying all the good things people love about Obamacare, and replacing it with absolutely nothing -- not even any smoke and mirrors. That should be a pretty easy political argument for Democrats to win (see: 2018 midterms). The House, meanwhile, held the first-ever hearing on the concept of "Medicare For All."

Trump tried to make some positive legislative news by appearing to agree with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi over a $2 trillion infrastructure plan, but of course with Trump you can never trust what he says about his support because he usually changes his mind on a whim later on. It's always Infrastructure Week somewhere, in other words.

The Senate failed to overturn Trump's veto of their resolution which attempted to end American involvement with the Saudi war on Yemen, even though a majority of senators voted against Trump.

A federal judge ruled that the second case challenging Trump's acceptance of emoluments from foreign governments can go forward, rejecting Trump's inane argument why it shouldn't.

Federal judges also ruled against the blatant gerrymandering of both Ohio and Michigan, and ordered new maps be drawn up (in Michigan) before the 2020 elections.

There was a power struggle over at the National Rifle Association, between Wayne LaPierre and Oliver North. Ollie lost. But the N.R.A.'s troubles aren't over, because now the House is going to examine all their shifty finances (and ties to Russia, for good measure).

And finally, to end on an amusing note, aging gameshow host Chuck Woolery tried to tweet in support of Trump emerging unscathed from the Mueller Report, but didn't exactly wind up solving the puzzle, when he tweeted the phrase: "NOT QUILTY." Several waggish commenters pointed out that he shouldn't be making such "blanket" statements. Heh.

 

Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week

We have two Honorable Mention awards to hand out before we get to the main award this week. The first is for sheer showmanship, and goes to Steve Cohen, a House member from Tennessee. Since everyone on the committee knew Attorney General Barr wouldn't be showing up for his scheduled hearing, Cohen brought some props just to make an amusing point -- that Barr was nothing short of chicken. Cohen brought a statuette of a chicken, which he placed in front of the empty chair Barr should have been sitting in, and if that weren't enough to drive his point home, he also brought in a bucket of KFC, which he proceeded to eat from. Not exactly subtle, but it certainly got his name in the news (and it was indeed pretty funny).

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi also had a pretty good week, on both style and substance. After Barr failed to show up for his House committee hearing, Pelosi minced no words in her reaction, where she flat-out called Barr a liar. Multiple times. In multiple ways. She also pointed out that this was "a crime." It certainly sounds like she's giving the green light to those who want to next hold Barr in contempt of Congress, so this fight is obviously far from over.

On substance, Pelosi's House passed another bill to further define the 2020 Democratic platform, a bill which would force the United States to stay in the Paris climate agreement that Donald Trump wants to exit from. This bill will, of course, go nowhere in the Senate, but it just adds to the list of things Democrats can be expected to do if they win back the White House next year. This bill got almost no media coverage, but it will likely be featured in Democratic ads soon enough. So Pelosi had a pretty good week all around.

But our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award goes to Senator Kamala Harris, who sits on the Senate committee that Barr did show up in front of. Harris is making a centerpiece of her presidential campaign her experience as a prosecutor, and her skills were once again on display during Barr's hearing.

Harris grilled Barr on multiple subjects, and exposed the fact that Barr hadn't bothered to dig into any of the details of Bob Mueller's investigation, and hadn't even read the full report Mueller put out. Harris also revealed the fact that Barr refused to say whether anyone in the White House had asked or suggested that he open any investigation into anyone. Barr tried to split the hair of what "suggested" meant, but in the end he essentially refused to answer the question. Now, there's really only one reason why he couldn't flat-out deny such a thing had ever happened, obviously, so this was a strong argument against Barr being anything more than a total Trump loyalist and toady. His job description does not include "being the president's personal attack dog," of course, and Harris helped expose this more than anyone else during the hearing.

Harris has largely failed so far in capitalizing on her impressive campaign launch, and hasn't really moved the polling in her favor much in the past few months. But the clips of her grilling Barr may help to give her a boost on the campaign trail. Whether they wind up doing so or not, though, Harris was clearly the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week.

[Congratulate Senator Kamala Harris on her Senate contact page, to let her know you appreciate her efforts.]

 

Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week

Sadly, we have two Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week awards to hand out this week. The first goes to the disgraced ex-mayor of Baltimore, Catherine Pugh. You may remember hearing her name in the news about a week ago, when her houses and offices were raided by the F.B.I., which is investigating her for corruption and graft.

This week, she finally bowed to the inevitable and resigned. Here are the basic details:

Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh (D) stepped down Thursday, after The Baltimore Sun uncovered earlier this year that she had made hundreds of thousands of dollars by getting companies with business ties to the city to buy her "Healthy Holly" children's book series.

Pugh didn't attend the press conference announcing her resignation. Instead, her attorney Steve Silverman read a statement on her behalf.

. . .

Pugh had been on indefinite leave since April 1, after being hospitalized with pneumonia. The same day, [Maryland Governor Larry] Hogan ordered the state prosecutor's office to open an investigation into Pugh's book sales.

Health giant Kaiser Permanente bought $114,000 worth of the books from 2015 to 2018, according to the Sun. The company also landed a major contract with the city during that time.

Pugh also sold the books to the University of Maryland Medical System, of which she had been a longtime board member.

If Democrats are going to take the high road on blatant grifting while in office to defeat Donald Trump, then they simply cannot condone fellow Democrats with their hands in the cookie jar. Pugh is now the second Baltimore mayor in a row to be forced from office due to scandal. And she's also now the first winner this week of the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week.

Our second MDDOTW winner hails from Alabama, where the state just passed an unbelievably restrictive anti-abortion law, to directly challenge Roe v. Wade. Speaking in opposition to the new law, one Democrat tried to make some sort of point about unwanted children, but missed by a mile with the language that he used. Here is the whole story:

A day after the Alabama House of Representatives passed what could become the most restrictive abortion legislation in the country, state Rep. John Rogers, a Democrat, took to the House floor to voice his support for a woman's right to choose.

But the perplexing words he used have drawn intense pushback from conservatives, who are orchestrating a nationwide push in state houses this legislative session to restrict abortion access and, they hope, force the Supreme Court to reevaluate Roe v. Wade.

Rogers argued Wednesday that "it ought to be a woman's choice" about terminating a pregnancy, an autonomy that would disappear entirely if the majority-Republican Alabama Senate passes the "Human Life Protection Act" -- a bill that would criminalize abortion at any stage of pregnancy.

"I'm not about to be the male tell a woman what to do with her body," he said, repeating a common refrain among abortion-rights advocates. "She has a right to make that decision herself."

Then his argument took a turn.

"Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or kill them later," he said. "You bring them into the world unwanted, unloved, then you send them to the electric chair. So you kill them now or you kill them later. But the bottom line is that I think we shouldn't be making this decision."

Missteps like this only give the anti-abortion extremists a gift, because this has already become a rallying cry in conservative circles. Again, Rogers was apparently trying to make a point about unwanted children, but he failed badly in making any kind of political case by the language he chose to use. For doing so, and for handing the opposition a ready-made political bludgeon, John Rogers is our second winner of the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week this week.

[Catherine Pugh is now a private citizen and it is against our policy to give out contact information for such persons. We couldn't find an official contact page for Alabama Representative John Rogers, but you can contact him on his Facebook page, to let him know what you think of his actions.]

 

Friday Talking Points

Volume 525 (5/3/19)

We have two main themes for the talking points this week: lies, and the economy. And then at the end, just for fun, we've got Katie Couric. Enjoy, and as always, use responsibly!

 

1
   Liar, liar!

The more Democrats actually use the words "lie," "liar," "lied" (etc.), the more the media will begin to feel comfortable doing so. Hey, it's worth a shot, right?

"As Nancy Pelosi so bluntly put it, the attorney general of the United States has now been proven to have lied to Congress. This is likely why he didn't want to face the same committee he had earlier lied to this week, in fact. And as Pelosi also helpfully pointed out, lying under oath while testifying before Congress is a crime. Lying to Congress under oath is illegal. Barr lied to Congress under oath. At the very least, House Democrats should immediately move to hold Barr in contempt of Congress. Our top law enforcement officer in the country is now a proven liar, which is a pretty sad state of affairs."

 

2
   Pants on fire!

And then there's the king of lies....

"In Trump's first 100 days in office, Trump, on average, told fewer than five lies per day. In the past seven months, his rate of lying has increased to a whopping 23 lies per day. This covers the period building up to the midterms, and it's only going to get worse as 2020 approaches. On April 25, Trump was interviewed by Sean Hannity for 45 minutes, and told 45 lies. He appeared before reporters for eight minutes the very next day, and told eight lies. Trump spoke before an N.R.A. meeting and lied 24 times during his speech. In a campaign rally on April 27, Trump managed a whopping 61 lies. When you add all of these up, as the Washington Post has been doing all along, Trump has now told over 10,000 lies in less than two and a half years. It took him 601 days to reach 5,000, but only 226 days to surpass 10,000. He must have all his pants made out of asbestos, or something."

 

3
   Want to reduce suicides?

This is big news, and should instantly become a Democratic talking point.

"A recent scientific study showed that there is a rather easy way to combat the growing problem of suicide in America. Want to see less people killing themselves? Then raise the minimum wage. That's all it takes. The difference in suicide rates between states with higher minimum wages and those who haven't raised them is rather dramatic, in fact. Giving people more money for their hard work has all sorts of positive side effects, and it's now been proven that one of these is to reduce the number of suicides. Democrats want to see a nationwide minimum wage of $15 an hour, and we also want to see the minimum wage linked to economic indexes so that it gradually rises over time. Republicans apparently want to see people work for peanuts and don't care that this causes higher suicide rates, among other things."

 

4
   Farmers hurting

Another economic argument that Democrats need to be making.

"The Commerce Department just came out with a statement with plenty of bad news in it for farmers. Farmers are getting hit the hardest in Trump's childish trade war with the world, and their income has shown a steep decline over the past few years. Farmers are hurting as a direct result of Trump's bumbling trade policies. Pork prices are down, soybean prices are down, and farmers are now planting crops in the second straight year of uncertainty about foreign markets in general. This has driven farm incomes dramatically down. Many farmers may not survive a second year of Trump's trade war, and a third year would take even more of them down. Trump tried to paper over this economic pain by giving farmers a bailout of $12 billion in taxpayer money, but even this free money hasn't stanched the bleeding. Since Trump has yet to see a single trade agreement become reality, no one knows when this bleeding is going to stop. Why do Trump and the Republican Party hate farmers so much?"

 

5
   Gold Star families hit with huge tax hikes

This one is even more cruel than the last one.

"Trump has been bragging about the supposed wonderfulness of his signature tax cuts ever since Paul Ryan jammed them through Congress. But they certainly haven't been wonderful for Gold Star families, many of whom are getting hit with enormous tax hikes on their survivor benefits. They're having to pay thousands more in taxes just because the Trump tax cut changed one rule. It's almost like they were specifically targeted or something. Now, that would be a disgusting and disgraceful thing to do, but given Trump's own animosity towards Gold Star families, you have to wonder whether this isn't so much a bug of the Trump tax cuts as a feature."

 

6
   No wonder people still think the system is rigged!

Obviously, the public is starting to see through all the lies and chicanery.

"All of this economic hardship the Trump administration has been causing is likely one big reason why the American public is still looking for authentic populism and turning away from Trump's fake populism. One recent poll showed that sixty percent of the public thinks the system is still rigged for the rich and powerful rather than being fair for all, across the board. Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy, Republican resistance to a minimum wage hike, Trump's war on farmers, and pretty much everything else the GOP does has all led us to the point where six-in-ten Americans think the system is rigged against them in favor of those who already have wealth and power. No wonder Bernie Sanders is doing so well in the Democratic polls. People are still looking for an authentic populist champion, rather than Trump's fakery."

 

7
   Tell us how you really feel, Katie....

This one requires an introduction. Samantha Bee filmed her second "Not The White House Correspondents' Dinner" show, which ran opposite the real W.H.C.D. last weekend. It had many amusing bits, but the funniest was probably the initial video, shot as a spoof of the Alien films. Sigourney Weaver was featured prominently, but Katie Couric (as a spoof version of Newt) got the best line of all, which we had to end today's column with for sheer amusement value:

I'd rather get another televised colonoscopy than cover the 2020 election.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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135 Comments on “Friday Talking Points -- Male Chauvinist Pig Withdraws Bid For Fed Seat”

  1. [1] 
    Paula wrote:

    CW: Walking the dog late afternoon - my husband was wearing his Hillary 2016 baseball cap and a young black man, getting out of his car in his driveway came up to us and asked us about the upcoming election and pointed at the hat.

    I asked if he meant the local election (for mayor, next week) or the 2020. He said the 2020.

    We had a nice chat. Upshot: he knew who DJT is, doesn't like him, and had heard of Biden and Sanders and had not heard of any of the other Dem candidates. I told him that there are 20 Dems running but the ones that seem to be the most prominent right now were Biden, Sanders, Warren, Harris and Buttigieg. He got out his phone and typed those names into something so that he could research them. He said he felt it was important he learn about this stuff.

    It was a nice exchange - encouraging that he had apparently absorbed that politics, at the moment, is/are really important - discouraging that he knew so very little. He knew the names: Biden & Sanders - that's it.

    So, as you noted:
    This could mean people are either (A) still making up their minds which candidate to support, (B) waiting for the debates to make a choice, (C) not paying any attention to the race at all yet, or (D) some combination of the above. But it certainly is something to keep in mind when considering the other polls (all of which prompt the respondent with a list of names). Support for all the candidates isn't running particularly deep this early in the game.

  2. [2] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Great article CW!

    I am disappointed that you left off Sen. Lindsey Graham stating on live TV that Donald Trump is “a fukcing moron” — a meme-worthy event if there ever was one! Granted, Graham was reading someone else’s words when he said it, but the way he said it —the passion behind his voice — it let us all know that he agrees 100% with what he was quoting!

  3. [3] 
    TheStig wrote:

    Regarding FTP 3, a negative correlation between suicide rate and minimum wage certainly makes intuitive sense, but correlation does not equate with causation. I'm surprised this study got so much uncritical attention from respectable news outlets. As the drunk says about a street light - "gives a bit of support, but doesn't shed much light."

  4. [4] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    China is not an economic competitor to America?

    Chris,

    When I first heard the clip about China on the news, I have to admit that I cringed, big time.

    But, I know Joe Biden and he is not ignorant about China.

    This rally was all about the greatness of America and that China can't compete with America as it leads not by the example of its power but rather by the power of its example.

    If anyone believes this was a gaffe and that Biden meant that China can't compete economically with America, then you think Joe Biden is an idiot.

    Anyone would be wrong, on both counts.

  5. [5] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    By the way, I'm sure that Biden would agree with me when I say that even when China's economy exceeds that of America, two things won't happen … China won't come near to the greatness of America and of the promise of America, number one; and, number two, betting against America will still be unwise.

    Of course, the caveat is that Trump must be defeated in 2020.

  6. [6] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Otherwise, all bets are off.

  7. [7] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I hope Biden is standing next to Sanders in the debates. Speaking of being eaten for lunch ...

  8. [8] 
    Michale wrote:

    Attorney General William Barr appeared before a Senate committee this week to answer questions, and then refused to appear before a House committee. This only adds to the growing perception that Barr may well go down in history as one of the most partisan and political attorneys general in modern times.

    Ahem... Eric Holder..

    'nuff said..

    Next up may be holding Barr in contempt of Congress, so stay tuned!

    Not going to happen..

    Besides, Eric Holder has that honor.. Funny how that seems to be ignored. :D

    The more Democrats actually use the words "lie," "liar," "lied" (etc.), the more the media will begin to feel comfortable doing so. Hey, it's worth a shot, right?

    Barack Obama....

    'nuff said..

    :D

  9. [9] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Paula [1] -

    Interesting! :-)

    ListenWhenYouHear [2] -

    Yeah, I forgot about that. I was flipping around watching that morning, and just went back to the hearings right when he uttered that line. My jaw did kind of drop, I'll admit. Who knew the broadcast channels would ever have to think about a 7-second delay for a congressional hearing! Heh. Wonder how many complaints the FCC got, personally...

    TheStig [3] -

    Good point, but correlation is usually good enough for a political talking point, right?

    Heh.

    LizM [4] -

    From what I read, Biden's been making this point for a while. It's kind of jingoistic, the way he says it -- "America's so damn awesome we shouldn't worry about two-bit china!" -- but it does seem a little out of touch these days, I have to admit.

    [5] -

    I think that's a lot closer to what Biden is trying to convey, too.

    [7] -

    The "luck of the draw" is going to be important in the first two debates. Who will be on stage with whom? Who will avoid whom? It'll certainly be an interesting draw, that's for sure.

    -CW

  10. [10] 
    Michale wrote:

    Several Democratic senators did a fine job of grilling Barr on his lies,

    Which lies were those???

    The Big Lie That Barr Lied

    The attorney general’s testimony was clearly accurate.

    I originally thought this was too stupid to write about. But stupid is like the plague inside the Beltway — one person catches it and next thing you know there’s an outbreak at MSNBC and the speaker of the House is showing symptoms while her delirious minions tote ceramic chickens around Capitol Hill.
    https://tinyurl.com/y38xkc5y

    You see, this is exactly the problem with all the Left's hysterical accusations of "lies"...

    The Left defines "lie" as "whatever is said that we don't like.."

  11. [11] 
    Michale wrote:

    During a debate about minimum wage in 2016, Moore claimed that low labor force participation could be corrected by allowing children to work.

    "I'm a radical on this; I'd get rid of a lot of these child labor laws. I want people starting to work at 11, 12," he said during the debate.

    No wonder his own kids are crying! Maybe they got their very own character-building start in life by working in sweatshops and linen mills?

    How is that any different than Democrats wanting kids to make their own decisions about sex and even what GENDER they want to be!???

    Democrats want to force kids as young as SIX to be adults.. How is that any different than what this guy is promoting??

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    Granted, Graham was reading someone else’s words when he said it, but the way he said it —the passion behind his voice — it let us all know that he agrees 100% with what he was quoting!

    WOW, it was just yesterday ya'all were calling Graham nothing but a "Trump toady"..

    Today, Graham thinks that Trump is a "fucking moron"...

    "You really do live in your own little world, don't you.."
    -John Lithgow, THE MANHATTAN PROJECT

    Project much??

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    I'm surprised this study got so much uncritical attention from respectable news outlets.

    Really???

    You are actually SURPRISED that "respectable news outlets" aren't critical of a report that pushes the Party line???

    Where have YOU been the last 10 years???

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW: Walking the dog late afternoon - my husband was wearing his Hillary 2016 baseball cap and a young black man, getting out of his car in his driveway came up to us and asked us about the upcoming election and pointed at the hat.

    Sincerely curious..

    Why does it matter that it was a BLACK man??

    Why is it that Democrats are obsessed with race???

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    New York Times Admits Obama Admin Deployed Multiple Spies Against Trump Campaign In 2016

    The New York Times admitted on Thursday that the Obama administration deployed multiple spies against the Trump campaign in 2016, confirming recent comments by Attorney General William Barr that 'spying did occur' during the campaign.
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/02/new-york-times-admits-multiple-spies-deployed-against-trump-campaign/

    Democrats are increasingly hysterical that it's all going to come out...

  16. [16] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    You could read Biden's quote as China is no competition to us when it comes to not knowing how to deal with corruption in the system.

    And if that were the point he was trying to make he would be right.

    It should be no surprise when a Mayor gets caught on corruption an graft when corruption and graft is SOP in getting elected in the first place.

    It's a shame the media we have that is supposed to inform us aboot how deal with corruption in the system sells us out instead.

    Stop repeating lies like "...it just adds to the list of things Democrats can be expected to do if the win back the White House next year."

    History says that the majority of things that Democrats promise to do when they get in power while they are not in power end up being things the Democrats don't do when they get in power.

    And anything they do do is mostly doo doo that is a half a slice that they try to pass off as half a loaf. Because that is their job- to pretend to be opposition to the Republicans when they are both working for the big money interests.

    So stop pretending the big money Democrats are the solution to corruption when they are part of the cause.

    And stop playing your part in the deception and inform citizens aboot the how that can be a solution to the corruption- One Demand.

  17. [17] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Paula your[1]

    You evidently exposed yourself to a tiny dose of reality while walking your dog that afternoon. You, like many Weigantian political junkies, spend a lot of your time well outside the world of political reality, living in some sort of dream world.

    If you were to take way more dog-walking trips, you'd likely discover that that that "young black guy" that had heard of Trump and Biden is far more representative of political reality than anybody you'll eve meet on a political blog.

    The facts are the majority of Americans are far closer to being like that "young black guy" than they are to being like you. Most folks do not eat and sleep politics, don't really understand the differences that define the political parties, and in the case of close to half of them, don't even bother TO vote!

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Special Agent in Charge Liquat Khan
    United States Army Criminal Investigation Division, U.S. Government
    End of Watch: Tuesday, April 30, 2019

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  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:
  20. [20] 
    Paula wrote:

    Just in passing, good 'ol "honorable" John Kelly now paid board member for Caliburn International, a for-profit prison company now in the holding refugees at the border.

  21. [21] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Kick

    There's a Huffpo article today you shoud visit. Something on the order of "Owed taxes this year"? Here's how to make sure it doesn't happen again."

    Pretty much duplicates what I told you about the people you were claiming believed their refunds were "too small" on account of something Trump did.

  22. [22] 
    John M wrote:

    [11] Michale

    "During a debate about minimum wage in 2016, Moore claimed that low labor force participation could be corrected by allowing children to work.

    I'm a radical on this; I'd get rid of a lot of these child labor laws. I want people starting to work at 11, 12, he said during the debate.

    No wonder his own kids are crying! Maybe they got their very own character-building start in life by working in sweatshops and linen mills?

    How is that any different than Democrats wanting kids to make their own decisions about sex and even what GENDER they want to be!???

    Democrats want to force kids as young as SIX to be adults.. How is that any different than what this guy is promoting??"

    This just goes to show that you are really totally clueless. You are not allowing the child to choose their own gender. You are just letting them be totally themselves as to who they really actually are naturally already, instead of forcing your own adult notion of who you think they should be onto them.

    Also, what does child slave labor have to do with children being left alone to grow and develop naturally on their own??? Are you really seriously asking the difference?

    "We are all born ignorant but one must work hard to remain stupid." - Benjamin Franklin

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    This just goes to show that you are really totally clueless. You are not allowing the child to choose their own gender. You are just letting them be totally themselves as to who they really actually are naturally already, instead of forcing your own adult notion of who you think they should be onto them.

    Which is exactly what I am talking about..

    I have always said that we should let children be children and ya'all Democrats have always said, "No No No!! They need to grow up at 6 yrs old and be able to make adult decisions about things like gender assignment and sex and abortion and homosexuality and all that!!!"

    But let a GOP'er suggest that children should enter the work force and ya'all lose yer frakin' minds!!!

    Thereby, once again, proving it's ALL about the Democrat agenda...

    "We are all born ignorant but one must work hard to remain stupid." -

    And ya'all work very VERY hard and being stoopid...

    Howz that Russia Collusion working out for ya'all??

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    You are just letting them be totally themselves as to who they really actually are

    And do you HONESTLY believe that a 6 yr old has the maturity and understanding to know who they "really are"..

    Most children at that age think they "really are" a mermaid or an astronaut or a cowboy..

    You prove my point for me..

    You act all abhorrent when someone suggests that a child enter the work force and become a productive member of society... HOW GHASTLY!!!

    Yet, you push on kids adult themes like abortion and sexuality and gender dysphoria!!

    Take a step back and see the bullshit you are shoveling....

  25. [25] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Ten thousand lies! And I'd bet that Michale would have good reason for each of them.

    The Far Right Wing Media - and I include Faux News in that - has been typing away, trying to explain them.

    What they often end up with is that they're (a) not under oath, and (b) just for hyperbole's sake.

    But I'd just love to see Trump do it LIVE. It'd be fun.

  26. [26] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Chris,

    I think that's a lot closer to what Biden is trying to convey, too.

    Then I am confused about why you wrote the following when you don't think it conveys what Biden was trying to say:

    "China is not an economic competitor to America? Um, well, that may have been true at one point in Joe Biden's personal history, but it certainly sounds pretty out of touch today. As many have pointed out, from both the left and the right. Biden's closest competitor in the polls is Bernie Sanders, who had this reaction: "Since the China trade deal I voted against, America has lost over three million manufacturing jobs. It's wrong to pretend that China isn't one of our major economic competitors."

    I mean nowhere did Biden mention anything about the US or China's economy. This stop in Iowa wasn't about any economy. He didn't say anything about a military competition, either.

    What he said was about competition, though. And, I think you know what competition he was actually talking about. And, yet, you didn't write about what he was actually talking about.

    It wasn't a gaffe, either. Although, I fully understand how easy it is to see it that way.

  27. [27] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I hope this isn't how it's going to be as we go through the presidential primary and election campaign ... presumed gaffes and comparisons to Trump.

    :-(

  28. [28] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Biden deserves far better coverage than that. He's never really seen it and I guess some things never change.

  29. [29] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Whatever.

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    Balthy,

    Ten thousand lies! And I'd bet that Michale would have good reason for each of them.

    There is a VERY good reason for ALL of them..

    What you call a "lie" is nothing but whatever you don't like..

    Funny how you NEVER complained about Odumbo lies...

    Why is that??

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Far Right Wing Media - and I include Faux News in that - has been typing away, trying to explain them.

    Trying???

    They are EASY to explain..

    Your definition of "lie" is nothing but a self-serving Party slavery agenda...

    Funny how you *NEVER* called out Odumbo for HIS bona-fide actual and PROVEN lies..

    Why is that??

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    I hope this isn't how it's going to be as we go through the presidential primary and election campaign ... presumed gaffes and comparisons to Trump.

    Welcome to Presidential Election 2020 :D

    Hope you have a thick skin.. :D

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    Pelosi Warns Democrats: Stay in the Center or Trump May Contest Election Results
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-warns-democrats-stay-in-the-center-or-trump-may-contest-election-results/ar-AAATyaD

    You mean, like DEMOCRATS have been doing since 8 NOV 2016!!????

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    There are even people in this forum who contest the 2016 election..

    And now Pelosi is trying to pin it on Trump???

    "Whatta marroon..."
    -Bugs Bunny

    Talk about being out of touch...

  34. [34] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Maroon [33]: Nice try, but she's right.

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Stacey Abrams again claims she won Georgia governor’s race: ‘I’m not' a good sport
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/stacey-abrams-again-claims-she-won-georgia-governors-race-im-not-a-good-sport

    What *IS* it about Democrats that they simply cannot handle when they legally, fairly and freely lose!???

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    Maroon [33]: Nice try, but she's right.

    Yea, cuz it's TRUMP who has the reputation for NOT accepting election results..

    You see your problem???

    You are completely delusional, you know that??

  37. [37] 
    neilm wrote:

    I understand where Joe was coming from wrt China - I agree that they are not a major competitor in the short to mid term.

    That isn't to say they aren't currently a bad actor from an economic behavior perspective. We need to get a real President in the White House to bring back the TPP and start squeezing them instead of spouting nonsense and ensuring tariffs hurt American farmers and manufacturers.

    However their financial system is very fragile, and they are about to embark on a return to dictators-for-life - a system that has seldom resulted in a peaceful transfer of power or long term economic strength.

    The ability of China to survive the first severe home grown economic downturn is likely to be tested within the next 10-15 years, and then we'll see how they reconstitute themselves. If they suffer a major meltdown, especially if the other regional economies build stronger financial institutions (both public and private), then they could languish for years or decades propping up zombie SOEs and lose a lot of their ability to project power. This will, of course, be made worse if their currency weakens and they start to take on a lot of relatively low interest rate (for them) dollar denominated debt. Just ask Turkey.

  38. [38] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale,

    Yea, cuz it's TRUMP who has the reputation for NOT accepting election results..

    Oh, you mean how he has lied about the number of Electoral College votes he received? Or that he actually won the popular vote because Hillary hired 3 million Mexicans to vote for her? Or that he won by a larger margin than any Republican in history? Glad you admitted that it was Trump who had the problem!

    You see your problem???<

    No...no problem at all!

  39. [39] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale,

    And do you HONESTLY believe that a 6 yr old has the maturity and understanding to know who they "really are"..

    Yes, many do, although they may not have the language skills necessary to express that knowledge. I knew from the age of three that I was attracted to guys and not girls.

    You act all abhorrent when someone suggests that a child enter the work force and become a productive member of society... HOW GHASTLY!!!

    It’s not so much “GHASTLY” as it is STUPID! Children in the workforce would create massive unemployment. They would be eligible to receive unemployment benefits, so that’s gonna be a huge hit to the economy. And don’t think that they will be cheap labor, as they’d be paid the same as their adult counterparts.

    The GOP definitely wants to keep people as uneducated as possible or they would lose a majority of their base!

    Yet, you push on kids adult themes like abortion and sexuality and gender dysphoria!!

    Actually, you inbred conservatives are the ones knocking up children, forcing the issue of abortion on them. The same goes for gender dysphoria — you are the ones who have a problem with kid identifying as something you disagree with!

  40. [40] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I understand where Joe was coming from wrt China - I agree that they are not a major competitor in the short to mid term.

    And, with respect to political systems, China will NEVER be a political competitor or ever hope to lead the free world. This is what Biden is talking about.

    I'm looking forward to Biden speaking forcefully about the need to revive the TPP. One of the things I hated most about the Hillary campaign was her reversal on the TPP in an effort to win an election. Ha!

  41. [41] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, with respect to political systems, China will NEVER be a political competitor or ever hope to lead the free world. This is what Biden is talking about.

    Of course, all bets are off if Trump wins a second term.

  42. [42] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Balthy (34)-
    Well, Pelosi is right.

    In fact so far right that in order to follow her own advice to stay in the center she would have to move quite far to the left.

    If Pelosi warns against something, then the best course of action is to ignore her warning.

    It's difficult to tell which is going to be worse as the 2020 election progresses- listening to the Cult 45 crowd or the same old you have no the choice but the lame false alternative big money Democrats wimps.

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh, you mean how he has lied about the number of Electoral College votes he received?

    Which has nothing to do with the point of accepting election results..

    Or that he actually won the popular vote because Hillary hired 3 million Mexicans to vote for her?

    Again, nothing to do with the point.

    No...no problem at all!

    Whatever you have to tell yourself to make it thru your day.. :D

    Yes, many do,

    I am assuming you don't have kids...

    Thank you for proving my point..

    It’s not so much “GHASTLY” as it is STUPID! Children in the workforce would create massive unemployment.

    Ahhh So you don't mind taking away children's youth, eh? :D

    Actually, you inbred conservatives are the ones knocking up children, forcing the issue of abortion on them.

    Not factually accurate..

    It's you dumbshit Democrats who want to let girls of 12 or 13 make decisions about having an abortion without parental consent..

    The same goes for gender dysphoria — you are the ones who have a problem with kid identifying as something you disagree with!

    It's not a question of me disagreeing or not.. It's a question of disagreeing with FACTS, BIOLOGY and REALITY...

    Something ya'all dumbshit Democrats have a problem with understanding..

    I mean, com'on.. Creating new genders???

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course, all bets are off if Trump wins a second term.

    Hope yer not fond of those bets.. :D

    Because, short of being taken out, President Trump is guaranteed to win a second term...

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    Odumbo and the Dumbocrats got it WRONG...

    The Economy That Wasn’t Supposed to Happen: Booming Jobs, Low Inflation
    Maybe using data from a few decades in the middle of the 20th century to set policy in the 21st isn’t such a good idea.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/upshot/unemployment-inflation-changing-economic-fundamentals.html

    Funny how ya'all want to give the booming economy credit to Odumbo when it was Odumbo who claimed that such a great economy could NEVER happen!!

    Face reality, people..

    President Trump is simply a better president than Odumbo could EVER hope to be..

    :D

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ooops..

    Of course, all bets are off if Trump wins a second term.

    Hope yer not fond of those bets.. :D

    Because, short of being taken out, President Trump is guaranteed to win a second term...

    Let's try that again...

    Of course, all bets are off if Trump wins a second term.

    Hope yer not fond of those bets.. :D

    Because, short of being taken out, President Trump is guaranteed to win a second term...

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump's economy proves Democrats are presently on another planet

    What planet are the Democrats on?

    I ask that question for two reasons. First, because the 2020 Democratic presidential front-runner happily ignores China, America's preeminent threat. Second, because Democrats seem determined to destroy an economic model that is producing record benefits to individuals in society — and in particular to the lower-income workers they claim to support.

    Consider the latest unemployment data released Friday. Alongside an increase in productivity of 3.6%, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday that the unemployment rate fell to 3.6% over the first quarter 2019. That's the lowest rate since we first landed on the moon. And that 3.6% matching speaks to an economy that is growing, dynamic, and moral. Consider that the data also shows Hispanic unemployment is now at just 4.2%. Aside from static year-on-year changes in (still very low) unemployment for blacks, and a 0.2% year-on-year increase in unemployment for teenagers, the economy is boosting employment for every listed demographic subset.

    Yet Democrats say that Trump's economy is somehow immoral. When they aren't trying to assign credit for it to Obama, they claim that it punishes the middle class and the poor. And so, rather than doubling down on the economic fortune we now find, Democrats are pledging to shred Trump's corporate tax reforms, escalate regulation, and increase state control in the economy.

    This is insane.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trumps-economy-proves-democrats-are-presently-on-another-planet

    Democrats just CAN'T handle the fact that President Trump won the election and that EVERY prediction of catastrophe that Dumbocrats have made has been completely, unequivocally and 1000% **WRONG**

    Democrats need to jump on the bandwagon or get run over by it..

    Either way is fine with me.. :D

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    The First Jabs of 2020
    There are signs that the dam of goodwill among Democratic presidential candidates is about to break.

    THE OPENING MONTHS OF the 2020 Democratic presidential primary have largely been an amicable, well-mannered affair.

    There are sudden signs that's about to change.

    This week, several candidates tossed brushback pitches against rivals, with most of the heat being directed at Joe Biden, whose newly minted front-running candidacy appeared to open the door to a more contentious phase of the campaign.

    "The Democratic race began in earnest last week," says Simon Rosenberg, founder of the New Democrat Network think tank. "And Biden's surge is likely to cause other candidates to start going after him."

    Both Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts served up policy contrasts with the former vice president, pointing out past positions he took that they believe are out of sync with today's Democratic Party.

    Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey swiped at Sanders for advocating for voting rights for the incarcerated. And Jay Inslee, the Washington governor who is making climate change the centerpiece of his longshot bid, took aim at Beto O'Rourke's commitment to a plan to solve the problem.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2019-05-03/2020-democrats-begin-to-joust-while-joe-biden-stays-focused-on-trump

    Democrats are showing their true colors..

    Definitely going to be popcorn-laden material.. :D

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    K9 Officer Jordan Harris Sheldon
    Mooresville Police Department, Mooresville, N.C.
    End of Watch: Saturday, 04 May 2019

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  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Officer Andrew Kimbrel
    Vestavia Hills Police Department, Vestavia Hills, AL
    End of Watch: Saturday, 03 May 2019

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  51. [51] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale [48]

    Democrats are showing their true colors..

    Yeah, by “showing their true colors” you mean that they are pointing out where they disagree with another candidates proposed solutions. We are able to have differing opinions on how we best solve problems without having to resort to name calling and insults. I know that you are required to agree with whatever the human dumpster fire says, no matter how idiotic it may be, but we are able to disagree and work out compromises to find the best courses of action.

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yeah, by “showing their true colors” you mean that they are pointing out where they disagree with another candidates proposed solutions.

    No, it's personal attacks on character...

    We are able to have differing opinions on how we best solve problems without having to resort to name calling and insults.

    Oh wow.. Thanks Russ... I'll be able to use that quote for the next year and a half!!! :D

    but we are able to disagree and work out compromises to find the best courses of action.

    Considering all the facts to the contrary, I am surprised you can type that without your fingers turning to fire...

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    A Shouting Match, Nasty Personal Attacks and a Growing Rift Among N.Y. Democrats

    The skirmish between two state senators illustrates the growing pains of the Democratic Party’s progressive wing, echoing similar tension in Congress.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/nyregion/alessandra-biaggi-kevin-parker-senate.html

    How do you reconcile the above facts with the claim:

    "We are able to have differing opinions on how we best solve problems without having to resort to name calling and insults."

    And THAT was just a 10 second search.. Imagine how many facts I will have to put lie to your claim on my day off tomorrow!! :D

    You should know better to make unequivocal statements like that, that are easily proven false.. :D

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    David Brock Bernie Sanders' fans can't be allowed to poison another Democratic primary with personal attacks
    Bashing Beto O'Rourke (and every other Democrat) doesn't help liberals' cause in 2020. It only helps Trump.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/bernie-sanders-fans-can-t-be-allowed-poison-another-democratic-ncna953976

    There is a Democrat accusing another Democrat of poisoning...

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hell, even Odumbo commented about the Democrats' propensity for a circular firing squad..

    So, if you have a problem with the assessment outlined in my comment about Democrats' "true colors"...???

    Take it up with Obama.. If you dare...

  56. [56] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden labels Trump a 'clown' during campaign stop in South Carolina

    Former Vice President Joe Biden took a page out of President Trump’s playbook on Saturday when asked at a South Carolina fundraiser if he had a nickname for the president.

    The 2020 Democratic presidential front-runner said he didn’t want to get down in the mud with Trump, but if he had to choose a moniker for the current White House occupant it would be a “clown.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-labels-trump-a-clown-during-campaign-stop-in-south-carolina

    So much for the claim that Dumbocrats won't stoop down to Trump's level.... :^/

    Yunno, ya'all should be careful how you defend Democrats.. They have a tendency to prove ya'all wrong.. :D

  57. [57] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale

    Ahhh So you don't mind taking away children's youth, eh? :D

    I was not the one who was pushing for allowing child labor in this country — the very suggestion makes it clear that “taking away their youth” does not matter to you.

    It's you dumbshit Democrats who want to let girls of 12 or 13 make decisions about having an abortion without parental consent..

    Oh....she is NOT old enough/mature enough to decide for herself if she wants to become a parent at that age, but she is old enough/mature enough to be forced into becoming a parent, is that it?

    Mom and Dad should be the ones to decide if their raped daughter should have to give birth to her rapist’s child?

    While most people who argue for requiring parental consent do so out of the fear that their child will try to keep them from finding out about the pregnancy and not that they oppose their daughter’s desire to terminate the pregnancy, the problem is that requiring parental consent takes the choice away from the person facing becoming a parent.

    If your child does not feel that they can turn to you in this moment of crisis, then the problem is with your relationship with them! It is not the fault of the clinic staff.

    Oh, you mean how he has lied about the number of Electoral College votes he received?

    Which has nothing to do with the point of accepting election results..

    Or that he actually won the popular vote because Hillary hired 3 million Mexicans to vote for her?

    Again, nothing to do with the point.

    Actually, it has everything to do with it. Trump cannot handle the fact that he is president thanks in large part to Russia’s interference in our election.

    Which explains why he failed to bring up the subject of interfering in our elections during his almost 1.5 hour phone call to his handler — Putin.

    "We discussed, he sort of smiled when he said something to the effect that it started off as a mountain and it ended up being a mouse, but he knew that, because he knew there was no collusion whatsoever, so pretty much that’s what it was," Trump told reporters.

    Odd that he could tell Putin was smiling since they were not video conferencing.

    And Trump once again chose to accept Putin’s word over that of our national intelligence agencies — this time concerning Russia’s involvement in Venezuela!

  58. [58] 
    Michale wrote:

    I was not the one who was pushing for allowing child labor in this country —

    Nor am I..

    You'll note my point was solely confined to the hypocrisy of the Left in supporting the ripping away of childhoods when it supports the Leftist agenda..

    If your child does not feel that they can turn to you in this moment of crisis, then the problem is with your relationship with them! It is not the fault of the clinic staff.

    Your words would have much more meaning if they came from ACTUAL parenting, rather than just Democrat talking points..

    Actually, it has everything to do with it. Trump cannot handle the fact that he is president thanks in large part to Russia’s interference in our election.

    You STILL believe that.. This, despite EVERYONE who is ANYONE up to AND INCLUDING your own Messiah, Odumbo, who have **ALL** stated that Russian actions had NO EFFECT on election results..

    I honestly don't know how to converse with someone who is SOOO self-deluded...

    Odd that he could tell Putin was smiling since they were not video conferencing.

    Just as, I am sure, Odumbo could tell that Putin was smiling when Odumbo bent the knee and pledged fealty to Putin thru Putin's minion..

    What's your point???

    You LOST the election.. Fair and square.. If you and Democrats can't move on, you'll never win another presidency in our lifetime again..

  59. [59] 
    Michale wrote:

    Quick question...

    Did Russia interfere in the 2018 Mid Term elections???

  60. [60] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Your intelligence agencies say yes.

    What do you say?

  61. [61] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Quick question, Michale …

    Do you think Biden voted for war in Iraq?

  62. [62] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    "We are able to have differing opinions on how we best solve problems without resorting to name calling and insults."

    I don't think everyone commenting here got the memo.

    But I'm willing to give it a try if the morons will. :D

  63. [63] 
    Michale wrote:

    Your intelligence agencies say yes.

    So... The Democrats gained the House based on Russia influence..

    Interesting...

    Do you think Biden voted for war in Iraq?

    Biden voted in favor of the AUMF of 2003..

    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    I don't think everyone commenting here got the memo.

    "I know, right!!??"
    -Felix, WRECK IT RALPH

    But I'm willing to give it a try if the morons will. :D

    Heh

  65. [65] 
    neilm wrote:

    So... The Democrats gained the House based on Russia influence..

    Let me set you straight:

    So... The Democrats gained the House despite Russia influence..

    Try to catch up with reality Michale, Putin ain't supporting anyone but Trump - he said so himself - or did that not make it past your partisan blinder filter?

  66. [66] 
    neilm wrote:

    Why Japan and China are in a demographic hole (and probably parts of Europe as well), and the U.S.A. has a glorious future as long as we can get rid of the nutcases who support Trump:

    China lifted its one-child policy, because they suddenly understood how demographics work. But it is too late - their form of capitalism doesn't allow for free movement of people or generate enough wealth yet, so people are saving money by not having babies.

    Japan saw the same thing happen.

    So is Italy, and many other OECD countries.

    The U.S. has a similar problem (see Steve King for his moronic take on the problem). But we have one thing going for us, we are the nation everybody wants to live in. So as long as we can keep growing our population (and don't care about how many gene's that encode for melanin somebody has), we have the chance to continue growing with a somewhat proportional balance between working age and retired.

    If you want a strong America, you need immigration - for people and ideas. End of story.

  67. [67] 
    Michale wrote:

    So... The Democrats gained the House despite Russia influence..

    Ahhhhhhh I see..

    So, Russia interferes SUCCESSFULLY when a GOP'er wins the election..

    But Russia is NOT successful in interfering in an election when DEMOCRATS win...

    Don't you find such blind subservience to Party dogma annoying???

    Because it sure is LAUGHABLE... :D

    Try to catch up with reality Michale, Putin ain't supporting anyone but Trump - he said so himself - or did that not make it past your partisan blinder filter?

    Even if true, so??

    You didn't mind it when Odumbo bent the knee and pledged "flexibility" to Putin...

    Why does it bother you with Trump??

    Oh, yea.. That's right. Odumbo has a -D after his name, so that makes it all right.. :^/

    Again, I have to ask.. Blind subservience to Party dogma?? Annoying??

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    If you want a strong America, you need immigration - for people and ideas. End of story.

    ANd once again, you change the subject because you can't argue the REAL point..

    No one argues against LEGAL immigration..

    It's only ILLEGAL immigration that is contested..

    Well, contested by all patriotic Americans.. Welcomed by Democrats and traitors...

  69. [69] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Biden voted in favor of the AUMF of 2003..

    Well, the vote was in October 2002 and you are right that Biden voted to give President Bush the authorization to use military force in Iraq if certain conditions were met.

    This vote was taken several months before the war began and after serious efforts were taken to avoid having to use that authorization.

    While Hillary and John Edwards apologized during their 2008 presidential primary campaigns for their respective "votes for war", they really had no idea what they were talking about.

    If you or anyone is interested in what this vote was all about and in the context in which that vote took place, then I would recommend reading the floor speeches by Senator Biden in the days before that vote took place.

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    CONFUSION: Biden says ‘Margaret Thatcher’ called him with concerns about Trump
    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/confusion-biden-says-margaret-thatcher-called-him/

    If Trump had made such a mistake ya'all would be pointing at it and saying it's "proof positive" of something or a rather...

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, the vote was in October 2002 and you are right that Biden voted to give President Bush the authorization to use military force in Iraq if certain conditions were met.

    Agreed...

  72. [72] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Liz [69]: But those certain conditions were never met by the Americans.

    You've got to be super-specific, because maroon here will stop reading after the first sentence.

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    You've got to be super-specific, because maroon here will stop reading after the first sentence.

    Wow, I must really be getting under your skin.. :D

  74. [74] 
    Michale wrote:

    I get it. I really do..

    You are getting tired of being always wrong about everything to do with Trump and it's very frustrating for you...

    You COULD always accept the facts and reality. That President Trump isn't as bad as you claim he is and he is actually doing some good things for the country..

    But, no.. You won't do that because then your entire existence for the last 2+ years would have been a lie...

    And you can't face that..

  75. [75] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Liz [69]: But those certain conditions were never met by the Americans.

    Correct. But, you and Bernie Sanders cannot say that Biden voted for war.

  76. [76] 
    Michale wrote:

    Correct. But, you and Bernie Sanders cannot say that Biden voted for war.

    Which won't stop them from doing exactly that...

  77. [77] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You know what, Michale, if they - and, I mean his fellow candidates - keep saying that he voted for war and Biden says nothing to put them straight on that score, then I hope their nominee is Beto.

  78. [78] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Balthasar,

    Liz [69]: But those certain conditions were never met by the Americans.

    And, by American, you mean the Bush/CHENEY administration.

  79. [79] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Balthasar,

    Liz [69]: But those certain conditions were never met by the Americans.

    And, by American, you mean the Bush/CHENEY administration

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, by American, you mean the Bush/CHENEY administration

    Of course he does..

    EVERYTHING bad is because of those with a -R after their name and EVERYTHING pure and good is because of those with a -D after their name...

    So it is with fanatical Party ideologues..

  81. [81] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Of course he does..

    Of course I do, because that's who was in office.

    Liz, I'm with Joe as a first choice, so don't worry about me. This is Joe's race, because it's impossible to out-gaffe Trump.

  82. [82] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz, I'm with Joe as a first choice, so don't worry about me. This is Joe's race, because it's impossible to out-gaffe Trump.

    Of course...

    SOLELY because Joe has a -D after his name and Trump has a -R after his name...

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course I do, because that's who was in office.

    Do you blame Odumbo for Libya or Syria or all the innocent people killed in drone strikes??

    Of course you don't...

    Because Odumbo has a -D after his name and he gets a pass..

    Yer such a tool...

  84. [84] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Sorry, off -topic

    There's an article on Huffpo today, something like "Trump Vows to increase tariffs on Chinese imports", with Trump Tweet quotes where he claims that CHINA pays the tariff taxes he levies in Chinese imports, and says that's why our economy is doing so well.

    Gawdallmighty, can't somebody straighten the moron out on that? Doesn't he have any qualified advosors?

  85. [85] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Of course he does..EVERYTHING bad is because of those with a -R after their name and EVERYTHING pure and good is because of those with a -D after their name...

    That asinine thinking is still infinitely wrong, Michale.

  86. [86] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale,

    So... The Democrats gained the House based on Russia influence..

    The Democrats gained the House despite the Russian influence!

    You STILL believe that.. This, despite EVERYONE who is ANYONE up to AND INCLUDING your own Messiah, Odumbo, who have **ALL** stated that Russian actions had NO EFFECT on election results..

    Thanks for admitting that even you recognize that Russia influenced our elections.

    Your words would have much more meaning if they came from ACTUAL parenting, rather than just Democrat talking points..

    Great job of deflecting from having to address my argument. Look, just because you didn’t pull out and your sister mistook a Pez for her birth control doesn’t mean your argument has any credibility.

    For over ten years I dedicated my life to working with and counseling high school aged kids. While I may not be the birth parent to any child, I have hundreds of kids that I have called “mine”.

    I was the one they moved in with and who took care of them after Mom decided to run off with a new boyfriend and abandoned them. I was also the one who they went to when they find out they were pregnant and were too scared to tell their parents. I was the one who went with them to let their parents know they were pregnant and scared. I have seen firsthand the horrors that some parents have inflicted on their children, so spare me the “unless you are a parent” defense.

    A brain dead woman can still give birth — does not mean she knows anything about what a child needs to be healthy.

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ticket prices plunge for Bill and Hillary Clinton’s speaking tour

    Tickets to the latest stop on Bill and Hillary Clinton’s speaking tour were going for as little as $20 on the secondary market as their 13-city adventure continued to struggle to find an audience.
    https://nypost.com/2019/05/04/ticket-prices-plunge-for-bill-and-hillary-clintons-speaking-tour/

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    The Clintons shouldn't feel so bad...

    The Democrat Party is in as sad a shape as the Clintons are...

    Misery loves company... :D

  88. [88] 
    Michale wrote:

    Great job of deflecting from having to address my argument. Look, just because you didn’t pull out and your sister mistook a Pez for her birth control doesn’t mean your argument has any credibility.

    Wow, Russ..

    That's low.. Even for this place...

  89. [89] 
    Michale wrote:

    That asinine thinking is still infinitely wrong, Michale.

    And yet, the FACTS that prove it are ever prevalant..

  90. [90] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, Russ.. Since you want to drag my family into your childish arguments, you'll be OK if I start talking shit about yours, right??

  91. [91] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And yet, the FACTS that prove it are ever prevalent..

    Non-serious.

  92. [92] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i always endeavor to be non-serious.

    except when it comes to pie.

    JL

  93. [93] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, just so long as you don't ever say that Biden voted for war in Iraq.

  94. [94] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i think country house will be impeached from the kentucky derby for conspiring with russian horses to have maximum security disqualified.

    the jockeys should have some pie.

    JL

  95. [95] 
    Michale wrote:

    Non-serious.

    Facts are ALWAYS serious..

    Do you have any FACTS to support your claim that my facts are non serious???

  96. [96] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, just so long as you don't ever say that Biden voted for war in Iraq.

    Iddn't it funny that it's only DEMOCRATS who make that accusation against Biden??

  97. [97] 
    Michale wrote:

    i think country house will be impeached from the kentucky derby for conspiring with russian horses to have maximum security disqualified.

    I know you are being silly, but it's ironic..

    It sounds JUST as silly when Democrats say that about President Trump...

  98. [98] 
    Michale wrote:

    Killer asteroid flattens New York in simulation exercise
    https://news.yahoo.com/killer-asteroid-flattens-york-simulation-exercise-020055474.html

    "Would ya miss it?? Huh?? Would ya??"
    -POTUS, AUSTIN POWERS-THE SPY WHO SHAGGED ME

  99. [99] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    What's your take on intelligence that suggests Iran is pushing Hamas to attack Israel in the latest Gaza flare up??

  100. [100] 
    Michale wrote:

    And Trump once again chose to accept Putin’s word over that of our national intelligence agencies — this time concerning Russia’s involvement in Venezuela!

    Considering our national intelligence agencies to use their alleged "intelligence" as a political weapon...

    Who could blame President Trump??

    To me, it's a sad commentary on our intelligence apparatus that they can't be trusted...

    Of course YOU don't see that because they were doing what YOU wanted them to do..

    Trying to remove a legally, fairly and freely elected President of the United States..

  101. [101] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are facing a huge problem
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/04/opinions/democrats-are-about-to-get-hammered-by-gop-zelizer/index.html

    And what is so hilarious is that Democrats are the architects of their own downfall!! :D

  102. [102] 
    Michale wrote:

    Did Nancy Pelosi just jump the shark?

    Did House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) just jump the shark? By stating unequivocally that Attorney General William P. Barr lied to Congress and adding, as if for emphasis, that it is a crime, Pelosi may have thought she was just getting in front of her herd of angry Democrats. But inadvertently, the speaker also revealed, in stark relief, a disturbing new trend in our politics: If you don’t tell Congress what it wants to hear, then you are by default lying and, hence, a criminal.

    By this logic, truth is no longer an absolute. It is a relative norm. Barr is never fast and loose with the truth. His real sin, in the eyes of the shouting Democrats, may simply involve being too serious for a day in which men such as Michael Avenatti are able to look in the mirror and see a president.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/04/did-nancy-pelosi-just-jump-shark/?utm_term=.a6627725e498

    And therein is the EXACT problem ya'all have..

    For ya'all define "lie" as ANYTHING you don't want to hear...

    No wonder you believe that Trump has told 10,000 lies! Because whatever Trump says, you don't want to hear it..

    So, it's a lie..

    What a sad commentary on a group of allegedly intelligent people (NEN) that they have sunk so low as to be like this...

    I would like to think that things will get better but I know, after Trump wins re-election in a landslide, it's only going to get worse..

    And THAT is a frightening thought. That ya'all (NEN) could actually sink lower in the muck and mud..

  103. [103] 
    Michale wrote:

    As Hiram Johnson, a progressive senator from California, noted more than a hundred years ago, the first casualty in war is truth. Feeling robbed by Mueller of the grounds with which to wage war against President Trump, the Democrats have been reduced to calling Barr a liar and to characterizing him as a chicken. What does falling apart look like? Fear and desperation have usually led us down the bumpiest roads in our history. Maybe it is time for everyone to buckle their seat belts.

  104. [104] 
    Michale wrote:

    “I think what I’ve done inadvertently ... is, I’ve made it—if not respectable—I’ve made it reasonable for longstanding liberals to begin to raise the questions [about busing] I’ve been the first to raise in the liberal community here on the floor.”
    -Joe Biden

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/05/joe-biden-busing-problem-226791

    This is why I doubt Joe Biden will be able to win the Dem primary...

    If Dems want to hold President Trump responsible for what he did 10-20-30 years again, then Biden must be held to the same standard..

  105. [105] 
    Michale wrote:

    Mueller Got More Attention Than Sri Lanka, Notre Dame Combined
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/05/05/mueller_got_more_attention_than_sri_lanka_notre_dame_combined_140247.html

    The Democrat Party propaganda arm at work...

  106. [106] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Wrong Narrative

    Seattle elites show little sympathy for a woman raped by a homeless man.

    A year ago, in Seattle, a man living in a city-funded homeless encampment raped a woman in the bathroom of a Volkswagen dealership in the city’s Ballard neighborhood. Christopher Teel had arrived from Texas as a transient and was evading multiple warrants, but the city-sanctioned encampment welcomed him without conducting a criminal-background check.

    The story caused a sensation, with wide media coverage and public demands for increased security measures, but the crime victim remained silent and her identity was kept secret. Nearly a year later, the victim, Lindsey, contacted me. After being raped, she had approached city leaders and met with the sitting councilman for nearly an hour but was received, she says, with dismissiveness. Teel’s crime against her did not fit the preferred narrative of compassion for the homeless, so the political class downplayed it. By the time Lindsey reached out to me, she was ready to speak out.
    https://www.city-journal.org/seattle-elites-homeless-crime

    This is why the hypocrisy of the Democrats is so aggravating and ya'all's support and furtherance of that hypocrisy so saddening...

    Everything ya'all do and say is to further that exact hypocritical agenda..

    Nothing else matters.. Not compassion for the victims, not anything.. The AGENDA is all that matters..

    PARTY UBER ALLES

    #sad, #pathetic

  107. [107] 
    Michale wrote:

    What's your take on intelligence that suggests Iran is pushing Hamas to attack Israel in the latest Gaza flare up??

    TENSIONS FLARE Israeli army ‘planning ground invasion into Gaza’ after more than 450 rockets fired in just 24 hours

    Israel has been hitting targets in retaliation for the rocket attacks and is preparing ground forces
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9007054/israeli-army-invasion-gaza-rockets/

    "Big badda bing badda boom."
    -Leeloo, 5th Element

  108. [108] 
    Michale wrote:

    What's your take on intelligence that suggests Iran is pushing Hamas to attack Israel in the latest Gaza flare up??

    My mistake..

    Iran doesn't control Hamas in Gaza..

    It's Iran's proxy, Islamic Jihad, that is pushing the current conflict with Israel, not Hamas..

    My apologies for the error...

    Obama should have turned Iran into a parking lot rather than make a deal with them and give them billions of dollars they now use to fund their terrorist proxies...

  109. [109] 
    Michale wrote:

    Aircraft carrier sent to Middle East after indications Iran planned attack on US forces

    The United States is deploying an aircraft carrier strike group and a bomber task force to the Middle East on short notice in response to "clear indications" Iran and Iranian proxies were planning an attack on U.S. forces in the region, a U.S. official said.

    Late Sunday night, the White House made a surprise announcement that the USS Abraham Lincoln and a bomber task force were being deployed in response to unspecified "troubling and escalatory indications and warnings."

    A statement from National Security Adviser John Bolton said the deployments were intended "to send a clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of our allies will be met with unrelenting force."
    https://abcnews.go.com/International/aircraft-carrier-middle-east-indications-iran-planned-attack/story?id=62843182

    Democrats make deals with terrorists..

    President Trump bombs them back to the Stone Age...

    "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb... Bomb Bomb, Iran..."
    -Senator John McCain

  110. [110] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale,

    Wow, Russ..

    That's low.. Even for this place...

    You are right and I apologize! I was just busting your balls and had no idea that I was hitting on a subject matter that was a personal issue. My sincere apologies!

    Russ

  111. [111] 
    Michale wrote:

    Thank you for your apology, Russ...

    No matter how rancorous the debate gets, I am sure you will agree that family should be off limits...

  112. [112] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats attacked and vilified President Trump's children for their connections with Russians..

    CHINESE FUND BACKED BY HUNTER BIDEN INVESTED IN TECHNOLOGY USED TO SURVEIL MUSLIMS
    https://theintercept.com/2019/05/03/biden-son-china-business/

    I wonder if they will do the same with Biden's son's connection to the Chinese..

    Oh wait.. I already know the answer..

    "Well...er... Uh.... That's different!!!"

  113. [113] 
    Michale wrote:

    GALLUP: TRUMP APPROVAL HITS HIGH; TOPS OBAMA AT SAME TIME IN PRESIDENCY...

    Gallup: Trump Approval Rating Ticks Up to New High of 46 Percent

    Since I know how much ya'all love polls.. :D

  114. [114] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now for the all important question..

    Why did Tyrion Lannister and Eddard Stark wear the Hand Of The King badge on the Left, but Tywin wear the badge on the right??

  115. [115] 
    Michale wrote:

    In just the last month, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) unloaded a blistering attack on a leading Democratic think tank. He went after former Vice President Joe Biden on a number of policy fronts. And one of his top congressional surrogates accused Mayor Pete Buttigieg of intellectual dishonesty.

    It’s a new, more aggressive look for Team Sanders. The senator who four years ago was known as a gruff but endearing candidate running a democratic-socialist, ideas-driven campaign has decided to bare his fangs more quickly this time, in hopes that it may actually win him the nomination.

    So much for "We are able to have differing opinions on how we best solve problems without resorting to name calling and insults."

  116. [116] 
    Michale wrote:

    Universal basic income doesn’t work. Let’s boost the public realm instead

    A study of UBI trials concludes that making cash payments to all is no solution to poverty and inequality

    • Anna Coote is co-author of Universal Basic Income: A Union Perspective

    A study published this week sheds doubt on ambitious claims made for universal basic income (UBI), the scheme that would give everyone regular, unconditional cash payments that are enough to live on. Its advocates claim it would help to reduce poverty, narrow inequalities and tackle the effects of automation on jobs and income. Research conducted for Public Services International, a global trade union federation, reviewed for the first time 16 practical projects that have tested different ways of distributing regular cash payments to individuals across a range of poor, middle-income and rich countries, as well as copious literature on the topic.

    It could find no evidence to suggest that such a scheme could be sustained for all individuals in any country in the short, medium or longer term – or that this approach could achieve lasting improvements in wellbeing or equality. The research confirms the importance of generous, non-stigmatising income support, but everything turns on how much money is paid, under what conditions and with what consequences for the welfare system as a whole.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/06/universal-basic-income-public-realm-poverty-inequality

    Giving away free money to those too lazy to work (ala Occasional Cortex's suggestion) simply does not work..

    It creates a society of freeloaders who are slaves to those doling out the free money..

  117. [117] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    everything turns on how much money is paid, under what conditions and with what consequences for the welfare system as a whole

    Duh. What's interesting is that the research, conducted for Public Services International, a global trade union federation, left any wiggle room at all.

  118. [118] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    [113]Maroon: Left off the link to this one.

  119. [119] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    [109]: Trump's voice: "Gee, d'ya think that we could actually start a shooting war with Iran before the 2020 election? Cool."

    Yeah, that'd work.

  120. [120] 
    Michale wrote:

    [109]: Trump's voice: "Gee, d'ya think that we could actually start a shooting war with Iran before the 2020 election? Cool."

    Yeah, that'd work.

    As opposed to Odumbo's plan of appeasement and giving Iran billions of dollars to fund terrorist attacks all over the world???

    Yea.. The Democrat way is MUCH better!! :eyeroll:

    moron.... :eyeroll:

    Duh. What's interesting is that the research, conducted for Public Services International, a global trade union federation, left any wiggle room at all.

    Do you have ANY facts to support your denigration of the report??

    Other than your slavery to your Party agenda, that is..

    :eyeroll:

  121. [121] 
    Michale wrote:

    Scoop: Israel passed White House intelligence on possible Iran plot
    https://www.axios.com/israel-warned-trump-of-possible-iran-plot-bolton-34f25563-c3f3-41ee-a653-9d96b4541984.html

    Israel.. The US's **BEST** ally on the planet, bar none...

  122. [122] 
    Michale wrote:

    [109]: Trump's voice: "Gee, d'ya think that we could actually start a shooting war with Iran before the 2020 election? Cool."

    Further, only a moron would think that 17 months before the 2020 election is "right before"...

    And I know yer not a moron... Well, usually yer not..

  123. [123] 
    Michale wrote:

    And I know yer not a moron... Well, usually yer not..

    But HHPTDS (Hyper Hysterical President Trump Derangement Syndrome) does strange things to people...

    So, I guess it's to be expected..

    Hopefully once President Trump is re-elected in a landslide in 2020, it will be such a shock to ya'all's system that it snaps you free of the syndrome that causes you so much hate and intolerance and hysteria...

    Fingers crossed...

  124. [124] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why did Tyrion Lannister and Eddard Stark wear the Hand Of The King badge on the Left, but Tywin wear the badge on the right??

    And the new HOTK, that Maester-wannabe guy.. He also wears the badge on the right..

    Is that to signify good and evil??

  125. [125] 
    Michale wrote:

    Caitlin Fink, High School Student In Porn Industry, Finally Shares Story: ‘It’s Not A Taboo Topic’
    https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/05/06/caitlin-fink-porn-industry-student-stockton/

    Great.. A high school hooker...

    Thank you, Democrat Party.. :^/

  126. [126] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Police Officer Robert McKeithen
    Biloxi Police Department, Mississippi
    End of Watch: Sunday, May 5, 2019

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13839e8d10b9303c8d9aee50576e15b15f4844be91d15073a21097a85b780c50.jpg

  127. [127] 
    Michale wrote:

    Former Vice President Joe Biden will not be our next president. Joe Biden will not even be the Democratic nominee. Joe Biden is going to lose. He's going to lose early, and lose big.

    Let us start with the fact that top Internet and social media search topics are "Creepy Joe" and "Joe Biden age." This is not launching a campaign from a position of strength. Despite his best efforts to inoculate himself from political mistakes, Joe Biden is simply the wrong guy in the wrong year.

    A Message from The Pool Factory

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    The natural argument for Biden is he would be an extension of the Obama presidency. After all, he did serve two terms as President Obama’s vice president. It was a good argument for 2016. It is a non-starter in 2020, plus President Obama politely, because Biden allegedly asked, will not be endorsing his old running mate. As an aside, a resourceful fact checker might want to evaluate whether this is a “false or misleading” claim.

    JASON NICHOLS: BIDEN'S FUTURE AS PRESIDENT RESTS ON HIS SUCCESS IN FIXING HIS PAST

    It is not surprising that President Obama is not endorsing his chosen vice president and, according to recent media accounts, urged him not to run in 2016. Let us remember that President Obama had to endorse Biden in 2012 to calm Democratic jitters about keeping him as vice president because of his verbal gaffes. Once Biden starts talking, he invariably goes on until he says something that is offensive or embarrassing. And right now, there is no easier group to offend and embarrass than Democratic primary voters.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/david-avella-joe-biden-election-president-lose-democratic-nomiee

    I am sorry, Liz.. Despite Biden's recent verbal gaffe of saying that leftist terrorists are very fine people, it gives me no pleasure to post this...

    The simple fact is, this is not the Democrat Party that someone like Biden can win in...

  128. [128] 
    Michale wrote:

    Treasury Secretary Mnuchin denies House Dem's request for Trump's tax returns
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/treasury-secretary-mnuchin-denies-house-dems-request-for-trumps-tax-returns

    "Oooooooo Access denied!!!"

  129. [129] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    [128]: "Oooooooo Access denied!"

    Of course, you know that isn't permanent. And that there's a jail term attached.

  130. [130] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course, you know that isn't permanent. And that there's a jail term attached.

    Yea... And Trump colluded with the Russians too.. :D

    You can't win, Balthy.. :D

  131. [131] 
    Kick wrote:

    C. R. Stucki
    21

    There's a Huffpo article today you shoud visit. Something on the order of "Owed taxes this year"? Here's how to make sure it doesn't happen again."

    No, thank you, Stucki. I don't need advice regarding tax issues from anywhere. There's also nothing in any article on any website or anywhere else that can change your incorrect statement:

    The only thing that affects the size your tax refund is your W-4 that you file with your employer to indicate how much you want to be over-withheld. ~ Ignorant Stucki

    You do realize that there are a lot of people who don't work for an "employer" and therefore a W-4 would be useless in affecting the size of their tax refunds, right? You do realize that people actually remit their estimated taxes directly to taxing entities all over the United States, right?

    Pretty much duplicates what I told you about the people you were claiming believed their refunds were "too small" on account of something Trump did.

    That was Russ, Stucki, not me. My role on the topic involved agreeing wholeheartedly with Russ regarding your asinine statement... which is rather conveniently quoted above.

    You need to let it finally "sink in" that things that were tax deductible in 2017 are now no longer tax deductible in 2018 and that certain deductions that are still allowable after the recent tax changes have been given caps that never existed until now. You also need to let it sink in that your statement is not merely false, it is also ignorant and shortsighted since not everyone is an "employee."

    Bottom line: Your asinine statement is still as ridiculous today as it was a few days ago and so shall remain ever thus. :)

  132. [132] 
    Kick wrote:

    EM
    26

    I mean nowhere did Biden mention anything about the US or China's economy. This stop in Iowa wasn't about any economy. He didn't say anything about a military competition, either.

    You know, EM, I was thinking everything you just said on Friday when I first read it. You and I know what Joe was talking about, and it had nothing to do with numbers.

    Bottom Line: You can't even breathe the damn air in China. There is a Canadian company that sells canned air from the Rocky Mountains to the people in China who can't breathe because of the "smog airpocalypse" that hangs constantly overhead.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hb_uHZ2Quw

    It wasn't a gaffe, either. Although, I fully understand how easy it is to see it that way.

    Of course it wasn't; Joe is merely contrasting himself with the "be-afraid-of-everything-perpetual-grievance-make-America-great-again" whiny bullshit that dominates every right-wing outlet from sea to shining sea. Joe is simply saying: America is already great, you fraidy ignorant whiny little britches. :)

  133. [133] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    42

    It's difficult to tell which is going to be worse as the 2020 election progresses- listening to the Cult 45 crowd or the same old you have no the choice but the lame false alternative big money Democrats wimps.

    Easy answer, Don... it's your bullshit that's going to be worse. It probably never occurred to you, but your repetitive asinine bullshit is just as tiresome to everyone else as theirs is. :)

  134. [134] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    46

    Because, short of being taken out, President Trump is guaranteed to win a second term...

    I think Trump will "win" multiple terms... prison terms; although, perhaps due to this mental condition and advanced age, he will be allowed probation or concurrent terms. Regardless, life as he's known it is over, and he knows that.

  135. [135] 
    Kick wrote:

    neilm
    66

    How refreshing to see a comment from someone who actually knows what he's talking about and doesn't resort to the same old tired whataboutism, deflection, and circular asinine bullshit.

    Thank you, Neil. Good form. :)

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