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Colorado, Utah Show How Mail-In Voting Can Work

[ Posted Tuesday, June 30th, 2020 – 16:00 UTC ]

Every so often I like to tempt fate by writing an article which could easily (and monumentally) be proven wrong within mere hours. Today is one of those days, because I feel pretty confident in predicting that Colorado and Utah will essentially show the rest of the country how a mail-in election should be done. I seriously doubt we'll see scenes of frustrated voters not being able to cast their ballots in a timely way, because with universal mail-in voting, that's not really a problem. No long lines, no machines that don't work right, no poll workers who don't know how to operate the machines, no voter-suppression efforts (both overt and covert) at all. And while Colorado is at the end of a long journey from being a purple state to a very blue one, Utah is still about as staunchly Republican as it gets -- proving that mail-in voting is not a partisan issue at all. Or it shouldn't be, at the very least.

Of course, Utah and Colorado had the good sense to be prepared for an election like 2020, even though they likely never even considered how it would benefit them with the country locked in a viral pandemic. It's doubtful the subject even came up when the two states decided to go the way of universal mail-in ballots. But it sure seems downright serendipitous now, in hindsight.

Colorado and Utah weren't the first states to go this route, it's worth mentioning. Oregon and Washington state were pioneers in this movement, and proved that it was not only possible but actually beneficial to hold elections this way. Voter participation goes way up when the state plans ahead and has a good mail-in voting system in place. While Donald Trump and plenty of his followers seem to think that this is all some sort of evil Democratic plot, the reality is that neither party benefits -- the voters are the biggest beneficiaries. More people voting because it is far easier to do so is a good thing for small-d democracy, not big-D Democrats. Otherwise, why would Utah have ever gotten on board?

There are multiple benefits from mail-in voting, as well as a few drawbacks. The biggest benefit is the ease of voting, of course. Registered voters get their ballot in the mail early, they fill it out whenever it is convenient for them, and then they either mail it in or physically drop it off at a collection site on Election Day. In Colorado, one county posted some amusing videos of a drive-up dropoff point, with people voting from horseback, rollerblades, skateboards, and even (although there is not a drop of water in sight) a large raft. Casting your ballot this way is not just quick and easy, in other words, it can also be fun.

The second big benefit is everyone is voting using paper ballots. No "paperless voting machines" at all is a very good thing. Recounts and audits are possible, in other words. This raises everyone's faith in the election process, and is therefore a big (and nonpartisan) benefit.

The biggest drawback to the mail-in system is speed. Election night results may become a thing of the past, and people will just have to get used to waiting days (or even weeks) for the election results. Just today, races were called in Kentucky from their primary last week, for instance. This may be an incredible shock to the public nationwide, if we don't get the presidential election results on Election Day, but people will have to adapt.

There's a built in conundrum with counting mail-in ballots. They take longer to process, since each ballot must be verified and then fed into a counting machine, all by hand. But the biggest problem is that in most states no counting of ballots is allowed before Election Day. This is understandable, because it would be very hard to count ballots in the days preceding an election without the data being leaked to the press. And knowing your candidate is already losing big -- or even winning big -- might just affect how many people bother to vote. So banning any tabulation before Election Day itself is reasonable. Also, in some states ballots can be postmarked on Election Day and still count, which means they won't even arrive until after Election Day. This further extends the vote-counting period.

Still, even though it might require patience on the part of the voting public, mail-in balloting is far superior to in-person balloting. Just ask people who live in states where it is universal -- they'll tell you (Democrats and Republicans alike). People love it, which is why so many more of them vote. You don't have to take time off work, you don't have to go to a polling place (that may be overly inconvenient to get to), and you don't have to stand in line at all. You can vote at midnight or in your pajamas, or whatever. You can then drop it in the mail with ease, or you can retain the tradition of going down in person and handing your ballot in yourself. Even from the back of a horse (in some places).

States like Utah and Colorado planned ahead, which is why their primaries will probably go very smoothly. They're used to universal mail-in voting, so there will be no learning curve this time around. They're used to handling the ballots that come in, so no change in procedure was even necessary. That is simply not true for many other states. Some are so restrictive that they only get a tiny fraction of their total vote by mail each election. Some are less restrictive, and are used to at least a goodly fraction of the total votes being cast by mail. These states face enormous challenges in the 2020 election, because they've got to either invent a new system or shift gears in a major way in order to handle the expected flood of mail-in voting this November. Some will get it right, but others will have problems.

But even with a learning curve, tens of millions of American voters are going to experience mail-in voting for the first time this year. And it's a pretty safe bet that a majority of them are going to like the new system -- so much so that they demand their state governments make it easier and smoother the next time around. Resistance to mail-in voting is going to be a lot harder after this election cycle, that's my rather optimistic guess at any rate.

Universal mail-in voting can work, and it can work swimmingly. As Colorado and Utah are about to prove today. The other states should heed this lesson well, in order to avoid chaos this November. Again, I am writing this hours before the polls have even closed and without having heard much of anything about the voting process in either state, so by dawn tomorrow I may wind up with a lot of egg on my face. But I feel pretty safe in going out on this particular limb and predicting that we simply will not see "massive problems at the polling sites" media stories tonight out of either Utah or Colorado.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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98 Comments on “Colorado, Utah Show How Mail-In Voting Can Work”

  1. [1] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    No paperless voting machines is good. But feeding paper ballots of any kind into a machine is not good.

    While a recount is possible providing the paper ballots are not lost or destroyed afterward, if the machines are not working properly (by accident or on purpose) and show that what was actually a close election was a large win there may not be a recount.

    It's a start, but there is quite a ways to go.

  2. [2] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Trump is adamant that mail-in voting is bent.

    If you've been following along, and as "No Tricks 46" put it nicely today...'I'd do the opposite of what Trump does'.

    Trump is flailing away and failing in dismay, he's a spent force, no longer a concern.

    All that remains is to decide what's to be done with him in January.

    LL&P

  3. [3] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    "...tens of millions of Americans are going to experience mail-in voting for the first time this year. And it's a pretty safe bet that a majority of them are going to like the new system- so much so that they demand that their state governments make it easier and smoother the next time around."

    It's a start.

    Now would also be a good year for tens of millions of Americans to experience voting for small donor only candidates for the first time.

    As polls for years have consistently shown that 80% of citizens want the big money out of politics it's a pretty safe bet that the majority of them would like the new choice- so much so that they demand that candidates for state and federal offices run small donor only campaigns the next time around and all the rest of the next times around after that.

    It's a start that needs to start now.

    Wake up. Wise up. Rise up.
    Get Real.

  4. [4] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Hold on... Michale has a few orders of Re-Hash on the griddle. If you don't care for Spam in your Re-Hash... Put your mouse roller on danger money.

    LL&P

  5. [5] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    jActually, Don, now would be a good time for you to start recruit some friends and like-minded indivituals who will position themselves outside many polling stations at a public education and petition table, signing people up to the cause.

    I'd start the conversation off by saying that Biden is the current antidote to Trump and Trumpism. It wouldn't hurt to also mention that Biden is pro-campaign finance reform.

    I would let Team Biden, know what you're doing and ask for any help that they might be able to provide you for your support.

  6. [6] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    jAturally? What does that even mean?

  7. [7] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Liz-
    Unfortunately, it is not a good time to plant people outside polling stations. It is also illegal to promote politics within certain distances of polling stations.

    And like-minded individuals are not able to sign up for the cause because they do not know the opportunity is available.

    As Biden and the big money Dem false alternative are the cause of Trump and Trumpism I would not start the conversation by providing false information that Biden is somehow the antidote to Trump and Trumpism.

    It doesn't matter if Biden is for campaign finance reform or not. Campaign finance reform cannot get the big money out of politics. It is just a red herring to keep people thinking that they are doing something by supporting it while making sure it never happens.

    The reason big money is a problem is because big money politicians only pass legislation that benefits the big money interests. The big money interests have no interest in getting the big money out of politics.

    So to pass campaign finance reform that will get the big money out of politics citizens must first replace the big money legislators with small donor only legislators. The problem has to be solved before legislation to solve the problem can be passed.

    That is the cold hard reality.

    Team Biden would ignore me because I am only one person and they like the big money interests.

    But if tens of millions of citizens all got together and demanded that Biden run a small donor only campaign to earn our votes he may decide that he needs those votes to win.

    I feel I still have a better chance with CW than with Biden. CW seemed to believe in trying different untested things in 2015 and there is always a chance he could return to his senses.

  8. [8] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Damn.

  9. [9] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, then, as much as I like you, Don and have from the start, I just don't know what else to suggest.

    But, I hope I see you on Sunday, at the CW Sunday Music Festival and Dance Party ...

  10. [10] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Team Biden would ignore me because I am only one person and they like the big money interests.

    I'm not so sure about that.

  11. [11] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    I have loved Washington’s mail in ballot system...it makes voting so much easier. We are sent the ballots about two weeks before Election Day and can send them in at any time as long as it gets post marked before midnight on Election Day. You can mail them in, or you can drop them into drive up ballot boxes located throughout the county.

    Yes, the count may take a few extra days, but the increase in voter turn out and the ease of the process are well worth the wait!

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    Sorry, the facts are clear on mail in voting..

    In New Jersey, 1 in 5 mail in votes were fraudulent..

    Sorry Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party..

    You don't get to steal this election.. :D

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    'Nuck,

    Hold on... Michale has a few orders of Re-Hash on the griddle. If you don't care for Spam in your Re-Hash... Put your mouse roller on danger money.

    Still have that space for me in your head, eh? :D Kewl...

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW,

    Universal mail-in voting can work, and it can work swimmingly. As Colorado and Utah are about to prove today. The other states should heed this lesson well, in order to avoid chaos this November. Again, I am writing this hours before the polls have even closed and without having heard much of anything about the voting process in either state, so by dawn tomorrow I may wind up with a lot of egg on my face. But I feel pretty safe in going out on this particular limb and predicting that we simply will not see "massive problems at the polling sites" media stories tonight out of either Utah or Colorado.

    My guess is you didn't even read about New Jersey... Why is that???

    Mail In voting will not be this elections way to vote...

    Sorry to say.. No, not really... HAPPY to say.. Because it's too easy to cheat with mail in voting..

    New Jersey proved that...

    I realize yer stuck with a dud of a nominee... Cest' la vie... That's the way the cookie crumbles..

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    FPC

    Russ,

    We are seeing Putin’s threat to expose Trump’s ties to Russian money if Trump says ANYTHING harsh about Russia playing out in real time right now! GRU bank accounts transferred money into known Taliban accounts on dates that corresponds to deaths of three American military personnel in Afghanistan. And yet Trump still says nothing!!!

    If you believe a man who would argue that he cannot imagine why Putin would not be honest when he said Russia did not interfere in our 2016 election, then you are even dumber than he is!

    Com'on... Russia is soooo 2017....

    You really need better material..

    Your own golden boi MUELLER completely and utterly exonerated President Trump on the question of Russia Collusion...

    Your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party must REALLY be getting desperate if if yer dusting off the old Russia Collusion delusion relic... :D

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    'nuck

    Trump is flailing away and failing in dismay, he's a spent force, no longer a concern.

    All that remains is to decide what's to be done with him in January.

    You keep spewing the same old BS..

    Yet yer afraid to put money on it..

    Why is that???

    Because you don't really believe your own BS.. :D

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yesterday, Blathy made a total fool of himself when he tried to claim that The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party were going after only Confederate Statues and monuments..

    Ignoring for the moment that Confederate = Democrat, which is laughable in and of itself, we have this little gem..

    University of Wisconsin students say Abraham Lincoln statue at Madison campus must come down

    Some students of color feel the figure should be removed from campus despite Lincoln ending slavery in the U.S.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/university-of-wisconsin-students-say-abraham-lincoln-statue-at-madison-campus-must-come-down

    Who knew that Lincoln was Confederate?? :D

    Once again, it's proven that the forces of evil and Trump/America hate are all full of shit.. :D

    I think it's going to be a fun-filled FACT of a day today.. :D

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

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    Some University of Wisconsin students are pushing for a statue of Abraham Lincoln to be removed from the Madison campus over his treatment of indigenous groups and black people.

    The Black Student Union and the Student Inclusion Coalition, both student organizations, called for the statue's removal in early June, despite Lincoln ending slavery in the United States.

    The Black Student Union argues Lincoln's legacy also includes several actions that harmed people of color. He ordered the largest mass execution in U.S. history -- 38 Dakota men by hanging -- and signed the Homestead Act, which gave settlers land forcibly taken from Native Americans, the Wisconsin State Journal reported.

    Some students at the University of Wisconsin-Madison are calling for a statue of Abraham Lincoln on campus to be removed.

    “For him to be at the top of Bascom [Hill] as a powerful placement on our campus, it’s a single-handed symbol of white supremacy,” Black Student Union president Nalah McWhorter told the outlet.

    Opponents, including UW-Madison Chancellor Rebecca Blank, have voiced concerns about how far the targeting of historical figures can go. In a statement to the newspaper, she acknowledged Lincoln's complex legacy.

    “However, when the totality of his tenure is considered, Lincoln is widely acknowledged as one of our greatest presidents, having issued the Emancipation Proclamation, persuaded Congress to adopt the 13th Amendment ending slavery and preserved the Union during the Civil War ... I believe that Abraham Lincoln’s legacy should not be erased but examined, that it should be both celebrated and critiqued," Blank said.

    Let's face reality here, people..

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party is totally destroying American culture, regardless of where it finds it..

    What is so laughable is that ya'all STILL believe you can win in Nov when American culture is under vicious assault from the Left...

    Does ANYONE here honestly believe that THIS is the way to garner votes from the American people???

    "Anyone??? Anyone??? Beuhler???"

    Remember... SILENCE GIVES ASSENT..
    The Weigantian Charlottesville Rule..

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

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    The backlash against statues and monuments of controversial figures has intensified in the weeks following the death of George Floyd amid a racial reckoning across the country.

    Some statues have been toppled and others have been vandalized. President Trump has excoriated vandals and pressed for jail terms for anyone caught desecrating public memorials. Last week, he signed an executive order to protect such properties.

    Another statue of Lincoln featuring him with a shackled, kneeling African-American in Washington D.C., has also drawn scorn from activists. Critics say the Emancipation Memorial communicates the black man's subservience.

    I can just see it.. At Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party HQ..

    "Yunno... We need something that really POPS to get the American people on our side and to vote Democrat!!!"
    Says a Democrat..

    AntiFa crows, "I GOT IT!!!! Let's annex entire neighborhoods with armed patrols and checkpoints and chase out all the cops... Yea, a few people might be murdered, but no one will stop us because we have the entire Democrat Party shielding us!! That will REALLY get Americans to vote for us!!!"

    Not to be outdone, the BlackLivesMatters moron quips up!!, "Yunno what would REALLY be awesome!! Let's start destroying statures and monuments of America's hero's like Grant and Lincoln and Hell.. Even GEORGE WASHINGTON!! THAT will get the Americans to vote Democrat!!!! We can get away with it because yunno... Cops kill black people and the Democrat Party will shield us!!!!"

    This is YOUR people's Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party...

    You must be SOOOOOO proud....

    Why ya'all believe this will actually GET people to vote Democrat??

    Well, that proves ya'all ain't runnin' on all cylinders..

    Oh well, Election Day will be here soon enough.. 125 days or there abouts..

    We'll all be able to see this grand scheme of ya'all's come to fruition.. :D

    And, to top it all off..

    EVAN BAXTER will play the part of Joe Biden...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmlq40G9xK8

    Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

    Com'on people.. Ya'all just have to know it's going to be RIOTOUSLY funny!!!! :D

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    And DaBlowHole is in the news caving to Democrat Party Pressure...

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    Bill de Blasio caves to absurd ‘defund the police’ movement: Goodwin

    Reader Jay Roberts raises the burning question of the day, one that has sparked a lively debate with one of his friends.

    He writes, “You say Mayor de?Blasio is a ‘putz’ but my friend says he’s a ‘schmuck.’ I suggest we send the mayor a letter asking for his opinion. A putz wouldn’t answer it, but a schmuck would.”

    To which I say: Stop! You’re both right!

    For those who don’t speak New York, think of a putz as a hapless fool, someone incapable of doing the right thing. A schmuck, on the other hand, is a jerk, someone who intentionally does the wrong thing.

    Unfortunately for New Yorkers, de Blasio takes turns at being both. He always screws up, the only difference being whether it’s intentional or not. Either way, Gotham gets screwed.

    The latest evidence comes with his agreement to cut police spending by about 17 percent, including the cancellation of a new class of rookies. With retirements soaring, that guarantees fewer cops on the street just as murder and mayhem are turning much of the city into the Wild West.

    Murders are up 25 percent this year and the police counted 63 shootings last week, compared with 26 for the same week last year.

    The violent tide suggests the bad guys have no fear of being ­arrested. Why should they? And if they are, the new bail law requires judges to release most of them ­immediately anyway.

    Meanwhile, the domino effect will add to the city’s misery. The crime spurt, including the tragic murder of 17-year-old Brandon Hendricks, while the police force is facing reductions means the NYPD will have little or no resources for less serious but still important quality-of-life issues.

    That was another GREAT idea of the Democrat Party...

    Defund/Abolish The Police..

    JM tried a lame defence, saying "They don't REALLY mean defund/abolish...."

    And yet, once again, the FACTS are clear...

    OK, let's be serious.. No fartin' around.. Let's put aside all the hate and bigotry and answer me one simple question..

    Seriously....

    Is there a SINGLE person here who thinks that Defunding or Abolishing the police is actually a good idea... ACTUALLY will win The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party any new votes in Nov???

    ANYONE actually believe that pile of felgercarb??

    Anyone????

    Speak up... You won't be ridiculed... MUCH..

    I just have to know the thought process that leads to such a totally batshit crazy idea...

    Anyone???

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

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    The illegal fireworks exploding all over the city with impunity are but a loud foreshadowing of the disorder to come. Consider, too, that it took the city more than a month to move a homeless man, often naked, out of the dry fountain at Washington Square Park.

    For de Blasio, the police budget episode has been Exhibit A of how he is both hapless and unscrupulous.

    At first, he tried to dance around the far-left pressure to defund cops but after he was booed and heckled off the stage at a June 4 ­memorial for ­George Floyd in Brooklyn, he instantly embraced the national madness.

    Within days, de Blasio was throwing the mob a bone, saying that while he didn’t agree with calls for $1 billion in cuts to the NYPD’s nearly $6 billion in spending, he would propose “something substantial.”

    Given the backdrop of protests, riots and looting, even that was reckless pandering. These “mostly peaceful protests,” as much of the media still insist on calling them, destroyed hundreds of businesses and scared sensible people out of their wits — and sent many of them to the exits.

    A good, courageous mayor would have stood up to the anti-cop crowds and reminded them that the NYPD had saved thousands of black lives by taking illegal handguns off the street, and that a declining prison rate was another consequence. It was the police, not the protesters and rioters, who had made New York the safest big city in America.

    Such a mayor also would have reminded all New Yorkers that a continuing exodus of taxpayers will leave the city with even less money to spend on anything and everything.

    But expecting de Blasio to be a good, courageous mayor is a fool’s errand. He caved in to the demands and instead of nibbling at police spending, agreed to slash it.

    Anti-police radicals want­ed $1 billion, and that’s what he gave them, plus $500 million more from the separate capital budget, according to reports of Tuesday’s agreement with the City Council. The mayor even used his favorite word — redistribution — to describe how he would shift money from police to social services and other ­spending.

    The council slashers were led by Corey Johnson, the speaker, who thinks he’s going to be the next mayor, just as every City Council speaker before him did. None has ever made it.

    New York City is going to become a bigger cesspool of hate and intolerance even more so than it is..

    Someone PLEASE tell me there is one more ('sides me) sane Weigantian who can recognize how badly the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is royally scrooing the pooch??

    Anyone?? No?? Everyone here is happily gulping the koolaid down??

    {{{sssssssiiiiiggghhhhhhhhh}}}

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

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    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sang the same song, saying the deal was just a case of “funny math” and “is not a victory.”

    This is crazy talk — and the stuff of disaster.

    For one thing, the deal and the criticism reveal that the 2021 race to succeed the term-limited de Blasio will turn the brave men and women of the NYPD into a piñata. Beating up on cops will be the fastest way to grab a headline and energize the mob.

    For another, the deal confirms that we are witnessing a dangerous moment in America. Just as New York led the nation in tackling crime 25 years ago, the folly of the nation’s biggest city cutting police spending during a crime wave will increase demands on any holdout cities to do at least as much.

    While most will not follow the extreme Minneapolis model and try to shutter the police department and replace it, it is almost certain that the anti-blue wave sweeping much of America will simultaneously handcuff cops and thin their ranks.

    That leads to the second guarantee, which is that these actions will usher in a new era of high crime and violence. And Bill de Blasio is helping to make it happen.

    Heckuva job, Mayor Putz-Schmuck.

    Huge crime wave going on in NYC..

    Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party's response...

    Cut a billion dollars from the NYPD budget...

    And THAT's how the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party will get votes in November...

    Votes for President Trump.... :D

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

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    In his first press conference in three months, Joe Biden gave a strange response to claims he’s lost a step or two mentally. The 77-year old said he’s “constantly testing” for cognitive decline.

    Hmmm. If he’s fine, why undergo constant testing?

    So, obviously Joe Biden is at risk for cognitive decline.. They are testing him "constantly" for it..

    At least, according to Joe Biden..

    I love that rallying cry for the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

    "OUR CANDIDATE IS CONSTANTLY BEING TESTED FOR COGNITIVE DECLINE!!!!"

    Yea... THAT will win votes!!!

    For President Trump!!!! :D

    All these FACTS wearing ya'all down??? :D

    There's an easy way out... :D

    Concede the points... :D

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    Twenty of the most dangerous most violent cities in this country are all run by Democrats..

    Think about that for a sec..

    The 20 worst places to be in this country are all Democrat Places..

    Now, this begs the question..

    Why would ANY American want the entire country to look like the 20 worst places in America???

    Answer... No American would..

    Result..

    President Trump wins in a landslide... :D

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

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    The Present Moment Has Set Blacks Back a Half-Century

    According to the make-believe world of the left, we are experiencing a great moment in American racial history. For the first time, the story goes, more whites than ever are coming to realize how racist America is, how racist cops are and how systemically racist everything in America is. Only now do many Americans understand just how racist Uncle Ben, Aunt Jemima, Ulysses Grant, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, "whitening" agents, meritocracy, Western culture, Christianity, jailing Blacks and the NFL are. The bestselling book in America is about alleged "white fragility" -- the term for any rational response to the irrational charge that all whites are racist.

    All this is supposed to be good for America's Blacks.

    But none of it is. In fact, it is all destructive.

    Take the movement to defund police departments and the incessant charges of "police brutality" and "racist police." Only those who don't care about Blacks other than using them to advance their power -- Democrats and the rest of the left, both Black and white -- argue this war against the police is good for Blacks. Already the increase in the number of Blacks murdered, not to mention injured, is reaching levels unseen in decades. And there is every reason to assume, as police pull back from high-crime areas, it will get worse.

    Take the left-wing mantra that all whites are racist. If I wanted to obstruct Black progress, and especially damage Black children, I couldn't come up with a more effective idea. To believe from early childhood that you walk through life held in contempt by all of your fellow citizens who are white is to walk through life with much more than a chip on your shoulder. It is more like a heavy boulder.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/30/the_present_moment_has_set_blacks_back_a_half-century_143577.html

    Yunno... For such a group of people here who are supposed to be really really smart (I know, I have seen ya'all's smarts (well, MOST of ya'all's) before..) ya'all are REALLY being stoopid in how ya'all respond to this BlackLiesMatter resurgence...

    You people just don't realize how black Americans are being HURT by the actions of the Democrat/Antifa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    Smart people don't support bullshit like defunding/abolishing the police..

    Smart people don't support pulling police from high crime areas because there is no back-up coming...

    Smart people do do these things..

    Yet, I am seeing it with my own eyes how all of ya'all are throwing black Americans to the wolves...

    No wonder 40% of black Americans support President Trump.. By election day, that number could very well be up to 60%... Or even 70%....

    I mean, look at a black Americans' choice..

    He could wallow in the mire and mess of Democrat/Black Lies Matter morass, likely get killed by another black American cuz their are no cops around..

    Or he could align himself with President Trump, remove hisself and his family from the "help" of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party and actually surivive and thrive...

    The choice is clear.. For those with the courage to make it...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter is a dead end.. It's going no where..

    The facts are clear....

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

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    It means that you will walk through life with two paralyzing burdens: anger and victimhood. Either one is enough to ruin your life. Combined they're devastating. It gives one an idea of how cynical the left is that it would want to cultivate both of these life-ruining emotions in as many Blacks as possible.

    Anger and victimhood not only ruin the individual's life but also destroy one's relationships with others. Everyone who has an angry individual in their family knows not only how unhappy that person is but also how much havoc they wreak on the rest of the family. The same holds true for the relative who sees him or herself as a perpetual victim. Such people are both miserable and miserable to be around. And since victimhood is a major cause of evil -- people who see themselves as victims usually think they are not nearly as bound by moral rules as others are -- they are more likely to hurt others.

    The "protesters" who destroy and loot think their victim status allows them to destroy and loot. The man identified as the president of the greater New York Black Lives Matter, Hawk Newsome, recently told Fox News: "If this country doesn't give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it. All right? And I could be speaking ... figuratively. I could be speaking literally. It's a matter of interpretation."

    In a report yesterday on a police shooting of a robber who resisted arrest and reached for an object in his waistband, the San Diego Union-Tribune quoted a protest organizer: "If this young man was robbing, that means his state and his government failed to provide him with the resources he needs." When you feel you are a victim, you are allowed to rob.

    Take the constant, often absurd, charges of racism at the most benign comments. If you say, for example, that you see nothing wrong with the picture of Uncle Ben on a box of rice, you will be accused of racism. As a result, most whites understand they can no longer speak truthfully or from the heart in the presence of a Black American. It is hard to imagine a worse recipe for genuine relationships between the races. Whereas the great majority of whites, and even most Blacks, thought white-Black relations were good and improving when Barack Obama assumed office, a minority of both groups think so today.

    Take the assault on merit-based advancement in the name of racial equality. Will this help or hinder Blacks? It will obviously help some Blacks in the short run. But over the long term, telling any group they needn't meet a universal standard of excellence can only harm that group -- not to mention harm the way their success will be viewed by others. Moreover, it is difficult to imagine a more condescending view of a group than to argue that standards must be lowered for them to succeed.

    This is what The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party has wrought on black Americans..

    Is it no wonder that black Americans are turning to President Trump by the 10s of millions??

    President Trump brought black Americans JOBS... President Trump gave black Americans respect.. President Trump removed the threat of jail and incarceration from black Americans lives...

    President Trump did more for black Americans in 2 years, then the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party did in FOUR DECADES!!

    This is unqualified and incontestable FACT...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party was the Party AGAINST Civil Rights Legislation... The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party was the Party AGAINST Voting Rights Legislation..

    These are incontestable FACTS!!!

    So, tell me..

    What does the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party have for black Americans today???

    A brick, a molotov and a plan for looting and destroying... In other words, being shot as a looter...

    THAT is the Democrat plan for black Americans...

    Great plan, eh? :eyeroll:

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    The damage the left is doing to America may be mortal. When it is widely deemed OK to destroy statues of Abraham Lincoln, society is experiencing a moral earthquake which may eventually destroy it. But the damage the left is doing to so many Blacks -- to their moral compass, to their happiness and to their relations with their white fellow citizens -- is not in the realm of "may do." It is done.

    Black Americans have only one sane choice and ONE sane choice only...

    Say no to the hate and violence of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party....

    They will lead you nowhere you want to be..

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK takin' a break...

    Will let you think on that for a bit... :D

  29. [29] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Happy Canada Day, everyone! :)

    And, Happy Fourth of July, too!

    Have fun and stay safe. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

    See y'all on Sunday … get your favourite tunes lined up for the CW Music Festival and Dance Party ...

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    Mainstream media goes all in with 'panic porn' over COVID-19

    Coverage is relentless and often fact-free
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/30/mainstream-media-goes-all-in-with-panic-porn-over-/

    THIS is what the Blathy's of the country are basing their reports on..

    Biased ignorant reporting that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the facts..

    This disease has over a 99% survival rate in all but one target group...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is simply trying to scare people..

    They are losing as Americans become more informed and laugh at the DABLM Party's efforts to bullshit them..

    Joe Biden doesn't stand a chance in Nov..

    Biden is the Dole to Trump's Clinton in the 1996 Dole/Clinton election matchup..

    The winner was a foregone conclusion back then and it's a forgone conclusion today...

    I get it.. Ya'all have to go thru the motions.. Democrats Raa Raa Raa.....

    But even ya'all must see the inevitable conclusion..

    Which is why, I guess, we are wagering on black American Support for President Trump..

    A President Trump victory is assumed and useless as a viable wager... :D

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    GRRRRR

    Reposted for Clarity...

    Mainstream media goes all in with 'panic porn' over COVID-19

    Coverage is relentless and often fact-free
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/30/mainstream-media-goes-all-in-with-panic-porn-over-/

    THIS is what the Blathy's of the country are basing their reports on..

    Biased ignorant reporting that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the facts..

    This disease has over a 99% survival rate in all but one target group...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is simply trying to scare people..

    They are losing as Americans become more informed and laugh at the DABLM Party's efforts to bullshit them..

    Joe Biden doesn't stand a chance in Nov..

    Biden is the Dole to Trump's Clinton in the 1996 Dole/Clinton election matchup..

    The winner was a foregone conclusion back then and it's a forgone conclusion today...

    I get it.. Ya'all have to go thru the motions.. Democrats Raa Raa Raa.....

    But even ya'all must see the inevitable conclusion..

    Which is why, I guess, we are wagering on black American Support for President Trump..

    A President Trump victory is assumed and useless as a viable wager... :D

  32. [32] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    That wasn't much of a break. :(

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Happy Canada Day, everyone! :)

    And, Happy Fourth of July, too!

    Happy Days to you as well.. :D

    Have fun and stay safe. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

    See y'all on Sunday … get your favourite tunes lined up for the CW Music Festival and Dance Party ...

    I'll make a deal with ya, Liz..

    Providing we can have some meaningful discussions (by we, I mean we Weigantians) and debates without a LOT of personal attacks and name-calling, I'll join ya for Sunday Music Fest.. But ya may not like my contributions... They will be non-political, but they will be all me... :D

    I'll let you use yer imagination.. :D

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    [81]
    DecayedOldBritishLiberal wrote:

    [63] Michale

    Hullo? What's that squeaking over there?

    First off, my comment was #69... Can't you people ever get it right???

    Oh, dear me! Oh, dearie, dearie me! The negligible little creature is getting on his moral high horse — with me! With ME!!! Actually!

    Golly! And gosh, at that! I'm lost for words.

    I am sure that happens to ya a lot..

    Hay, if ya old fart can't handle the big dog, you might just wanna stay on the porch... :D

  35. [35] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    But ya may not like my contributions... They will be non-political, but they will be all me... :D

    They had better be non-political, my friend. That's the whole point of the thing, you know. :)

    Over and out.

  36. [36] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    We're not looking for Bono on the cross here, in other words. Heh.

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    That wasn't much of a break. :(

    Oh, I am stretching out my break.. My lovely wife just woke up and I have ta spend time with her...

    We're both working from home together, but she is not a morning person as I am... :D

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    We're not looking for Bono on the cross here, in other words. Heh.

    Who's "Bono"?? :D

    They had better be non-political, my friend. That's the whole point of the thing, you know. :)

    You have my word.. As long as no one brings up politics, I won't either... :D

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    Unfortunately, for Joe Biden, this is what The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party stands for today.....

    http://sjfm.us/pics/killcops.jpg

    I don't see how anyone here can expect The Party to win with this message..

  40. [40] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Sundays are politics-free zones around here!

  41. [41] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    We're here for a good time, not a long time, in other words. :)

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    Portland police declare ‘riot,’ use CS gas to break up crowd; arrests reported
    Officers used CS gas – a type of tear gas – in bid to restore order

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-declare-riot-use-cs-gas-to-break-up-crowd-arrests-reported

    So, let me see if I have this straight..

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party wants to defund/abolish PDs and SOs.....

    At a time when terrorism and violence is at an all time high...

    And The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party think that THAT is a good campaign strategy???

    Who is running Biden's campaign???

    Attila The Hun???

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Sundays are politics-free zones around here!

    I will abide by the rules as long as others do.. Probably a good sight longer... :D

    You have my word...

  44. [44] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    We'll see ...

  45. [45] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    .. which does NOT meant that you get to go wild on Saturdays. Ahem.

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    .. which does NOT meant that you get to go wild on Saturdays. Ahem.

    "Wild" is a relative term.. :D

    Dependent factors are the "wild" of the group or the "wild" of current events... :D

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, of course, whatever "wild" mood the Grand Poobah is in at the given moment.. :D

  48. [48] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yeah, right.

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump national security adviser surprised NY Times 'ran with' Russia bounty story, says info was 'uncorroborated'

    O'Brien says CIA briefer decided not to brief Trump on bounty intel because it was unverified
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-natl-security-adviser-obrien-surprised-times-russia-bounty-story

    Why be surprised???

    The NY Grime *ALWAYS* runs with unverified stories..

    FACTS don't matter to the Trump/America haters...

    The fact that they are ALWAYS wrong doesn't deter them one iota...

    This is simply a lame take on the old Russia Collusion delusion...

    FACTS???? They don't need no stinkin' FACTS...

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    Is Trump Toast?
    There’s a persuasive argument that the 2020 election is already over.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/opinion/trump-lose-2020-election.html?smid=tw-share

    Oh look...

    Change 2020 to 2016 and it's the same old delusional bullshit...

    It's amazing these people actually think they have ANY credibility...

    Speaking of no credibility..

    Is MyVoice still slinked off??? :D

    I hope I didn't hurt his feelings too badly...

    Poor little guy...

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    Remember before how we were talking about my Bucket List and I can remove the Global Warming Con Being Exposed from that list??

    How ya'all swore up and down that it's still a thing??? :D

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare
    June 29, 2020
    The author in Maranhão, Brazil, 1995
    THE AUTHOR IN MARANHÃO, BRAZIL, 1995

    On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologize for the climate scare we created over the last 30 years. Climate change is happening. It’s just not the end of the world. It’s not even our most serious environmental problem.

    I may seem like a strange person to be saying all of this. I have been a climate activist for 20 years and an environmentalist for 30.

    But as an energy expert asked by Congress to provide objective expert testimony, and invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to serve as Expert Reviewer of its next Assessment Report, I feel an obligation to apologize for how badly we environmentalists have misled the public.

    Here are some facts few people know:

    Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”

    The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”

    Climate change is not making natural disasters worse

    Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003

    The amount of land we use for meat — humankind’s biggest use of land — has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska

    The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in Australia and California

    Carbon emissions are declining in most rich nations and have been declining in Britain, Germany, and France since the mid-1970s

    Netherlands became rich not poor while adapting to life below sea level

    We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will continue to rise as the world gets hotter

    Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to species than climate change

    Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels

    Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial” agriculture
    https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2020/6/29/on-behalf-of-environmentalists-i-apologize-for-the-climate-scare

    Democrats are SOOO gullible......

    The Global Warming Con is exposed... It's not even a tiny blip on anyone's radar...

    Save fear-mongering ignoramuses who just like to mess things up...

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    I know that the above facts will sound like “climate denialism” to many people. But that just shows the power of climate alarmism.

    In reality, the above facts come from the best-available scientific studies, including those conducted by or accepted by the IPCC, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) and other leading scientific bodies.

    Some people will, when they read this imagine that I’m some right-wing anti-environmentalist. I’m not. At 17, I lived in Nicaragua to show solidarity with the Sandinista socialist revolution. At 23 I raised money for Guatemalan women’s cooperatives. In my early 20s I lived in the semi-Amazon doing research with small farmers fighting land invasions. At 26 I helped expose poor conditions at Nike factories in Asia.

    I became an environmentalist at 16 when I threw a fundraiser for Rainforest Action Network. At 27 I helped save the last unprotected ancient redwoods in California. In my 30s I advocated renewables and successfully helped persuade the Obama administration to invest $90 billion into them. Over the last few years I helped save enough nuclear plants from being replaced by fossil fuels to prevent a sharp increase in emissions

    But until last year, I mostly avoided speaking out against the climate scare. Partly that’s because I was embarrassed. After all, I am as guilty of alarmism as any other environmentalist. For years, I referred to climate change as an “existential” threat to human civilization, and called it a “crisis.”

    But mostly I was scared. I remained quiet about the climate disinformation campaign because I was afraid of losing friends and funding. The few times I summoned the courage to defend climate science from those who misrepresent it I suffered harsh consequences. And so I mostly stood by and did next to nothing as my fellow environmentalists terrified the public.

    I even stood by as people in the White House and many in the news media tried to destroy the reputation and career of an outstanding scientist, good man, and friend of mine, Roger Pielke, Jr., a lifelong progressive Democrat and environmentalist who testified in favor of carbon regulations. Why did they do that? Because his research proves natural disasters aren’t getting worse.

    But then, last year, things spiraled out of control.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said “The world is going to end in twelve years if we don’t address climate change.” Britain’s most high-profile environmental group claimed “Climate Change Kills Children.”

    The world’s most influential green journalist, Bill McKibben, called climate change the “greatest challenge humans have ever faced” and said it would “wipe out civilizations.”

    Mainstream journalists reported, repeatedly, that the Amazon was “the lungs of the world,” and that deforestation was like a nuclear bomb going off.

    As a result, half of the people surveyed around the world last year said they thought climate change would make humanity extinct. And in January, one out of five British children told pollsters they were having nightmares about climate change.

    Whether or not you have children you must see how wrong this is. I admit I may be sensitive because I have a teenage daughter. After we talked about the science she was reassured. But her friends are deeply misinformed and thus, understandably, frightened.

    That's all that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is good for..

    Scaring children..

    They have NOTHING in the way of facts.. All they have is hysterical fear-mongering alarmism with NO BASIS in reality..

    I am SUPER happy I am able to cross GLOBAL WARMING CON EXPOSED off my Bucket List.. :D

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    This part bears repeating..

    But mostly I was scared. I remained quiet about the climate disinformation campaign because I was afraid of losing friends and funding. The few times I summoned the courage to defend climate science from those who misrepresent it I suffered harsh consequences. And so I mostly stood by and did next to nothing as my fellow environmentalists terrified the public.

    I even stood by as people in the White House and many in the news media tried to destroy the reputation and career of an outstanding scientist, good man, and friend of mine, Roger Pielke, Jr., a lifelong progressive Democrat and environmentalist who testified in favor of carbon regulations. Why did they do that? Because his research proves natural disasters aren’t getting worse.

    You see, this is how The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party operates...

    It operates from fear and iron control.. It keeps people in line by fear of ridicule and ostracization...

    This is ya'all's Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party .. And, frankly, I am ashamed that some of ya'all, who I know are GOOD people, would be party to this...

    Fortunately, there are people like Michael Shellenberger who are willing to stand up to the bullies and be counted...

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    And so my formal apology for our fear-mongering comes in the form of my new book, Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All.

    It is based on two decades of research and three decades of environmental activism. At 400 pages, with 100 of them endnotes, Apocalypse Never covers climate change, deforestation, plastic waste, species extinction, industrialization, meat, nuclear energy, and renewables.

    Some highlights from the book:

    Factories and modern farming are the keys to human liberation and environmental progress

    The most important thing for saving the environment is producing more food, particularly meat, on less land

    The most important thing for reducing air pollution and carbon emissions is moving from wood to coal to petroleum to natural gas to uranium

    100% renewables would require increasing the land used for energy from today’s 0.5% to 50%

    We should want cities, farms, and power plants to have higher, not lower, power densities

    Vegetarianism reduces one’s emissions by less than 4%

    Greenpeace didn’t save the whales, switching from whale oil to petroleum and palm oil did

    “Free-range” beef would require 20 times more land and produce 300% more emissions

    Greenpeace dogmatism worsened forest fragmentation of the Amazon

    The colonialist approach to gorilla conservation in the Congo produced a backlash that may have resulted in the killing of 250 elephants

    Why were we all so misled?

    In the final three chapters of Apocalypse Never I expose the financial, political, and ideological motivations. Environmental groups have accepted hundreds of millions of dollars from fossil fuel interests. Groups motivated by anti-humanist beliefs forced the World Bank to stop trying to end poverty and instead make poverty “sustainable.” And status anxiety, depression, and hostility to modern civilization are behind much of the alarmism

    Once you realize just how badly misinformed we have been, often by people with plainly unsavory or unhealthy motivations, it is hard not to feel duped.

    The author lays it all out.. Exactly how the bullshit machine works...

    An insider's view of the whole crooked con.....

    A total exposure of the whole nefarious scheme... The con is well and truly dead now...

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    Will Apocalypse Never make any difference? There are certainly reasons to doubt it.

    The news media have been making apocalyptic pronouncements about climate change since the late 1980s, and do not seem disposed to stop.

    The ideology behind environmental alarmsim — Malthusianism — has been repeatedly debunked for 200 years and yet is more powerful than ever.

    But there are also reasons to believe that environmental alarmism will, if not come to an end, have diminishing cultural power.

    The coronavirus pandemic is an actual crisis that puts the climate “crisis” into perspective. Even if you think we have overreacted, Covid-19 has killed nearly 500,000 people and shattered economies around the globe.

    Scientific institutions including WHO and IPCC have undermined their credibility through the repeated politicization of science. Their future existence and relevance depends on new leadership and serious reform.

    Facts still matter, and social media is allowing for a wider range of new and independent voices to outcompete alarmist environmental journalists at legacy publications.

    Nations are reverting openly to self-interest and away from Malthusianism and neoliberalism, which is good for nuclear and bad for renewables.

    The evidence is overwhelming that our high-energy civilization is better for people and nature than the low-energy civilization that climate alarmists would return us to.

    The invitations from IPCC and Congress are signs of a growing openness to new thinking about climate change and the environment. Another one has been to the response to my book from climate scientists, conservationists, and environmental scholars. "Apocalypse Never is an extremely important book,” writes Richard Rhodes, the Pulitzer-winning author of The Making of the Atomic Bomb. “This may be the most important book on the environment ever written,” says one of the fathers of modern climate science Tom Wigley.

    “We environmentalists condemn those with antithetical views of being ignorant of science and susceptible to confirmation bias,” wrote the former head of The Nature Conservancy, Steve McCormick. “But too often we are guilty of the same. Shellenberger offers ‘tough love:’ a challenge to entrenched orthodoxies and rigid, self-defeating mindsets. Apocalypse Never serves up occasionally stinging, but always well-crafted, evidence-based points of view that will help develop the ‘mental muscle’ we need to envision and design not only a hopeful, but an attainable, future.”

    That is all I hoped for in writing it. If you’ve made it this far, I hope you’ll agree that it’s perhaps not as strange as it seems that a lifelong environmentalist, progressive, and climate activist felt the need to speak out against the alarmism.

    I further hope that you’ll accept my apology.

    Another part that bears repeating..

    The coronavirus pandemic is an actual crisis that puts the climate “crisis” into perspective. Even if you think we have overreacted, Covid-19 has killed nearly 500,000 people and shattered economies around the globe.

    Scientific institutions including WHO and IPCC have undermined their credibility through the repeated politicization of science. Their future existence and relevance depends on new leadership and serious reform.

    This is exactly why it's impossible to take Blathy's constant fear-mongering seriously... It's exactly why it's impossible to take proclamations from organizations like WHO, CDC and IPCC seriously..

    Because the entire corrupt bloated beaucracy is so obviously and blatantly POLITICAL, they simply can't be trusted to put out REAL science...

    When The Center For Disease Control becomes The Center For Gun Control, you can kiss ALL credibility from the CDC good bye...

    It simply CAN'T be trusted because EVERYTHING it says is dissected for political content... It simply has NO CREDIBILITY...

    The WHO was obviously toeing the China Party line at the beginning of the Coronavirus pandemic so now ANYTHING it says simply cannot be believed..

    The IPCC?? Forget it.. It's science-based credibility is non-existent.. It's a UN Bureaucracy that has ZERO scientific credibility...

    It's good that authors like Mr Shellenberger still exist.. He has a long way to go to make up for his part in the Global Warming con... Exposing it for all to see is like a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean...

    A GOOD START....

  56. [56] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Man, I'm living rent free in Michale's head his morning. Hilarious.

    In New Jersey, 1 in 5 mail in votes were fraudulent..

    This is blatant bullshit. Lets see you back it up...

    128,823 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  57. [57] 
    Michale wrote:

    Man, I'm living rent free in Michale's head his morning. Hilarious

    Whatever you have to tell yerself to make it thru your sad ignorant existence..

    This is blatant bullshit. Lets see you back it up...

    Oh, you missed it??

    Let me post it again for you... Since you asked..

    Note it's from REAL CLEAR POLITICS...

    The ONLY acceptable source in Weigantia...

    REPRINTED BY REQUEST

    1 in 5 Ballots Rejected as Fraud Is Charged in N.J. Mail-In Election

    Following accusations of widespread fraud, voter intimidation, and ballot theft in the May 12 municipal elections in Paterson, N.J., state Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal (pictured) announced Thursday he is charging four men with voter fraud – including the vice president of the City Council and a candidate for that body.

    With races still undecided, control of the council hangs in the balance. Paterson is New Jersey’s third largest city and the election will decide the fate of a municipal budget in excess of $300 million, in addition to hundreds of millions more in education spending and state aid.

    In the City Council election, 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but only 13,557 votes were counted. More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections. Due to the pandemic, Paterson’s election was done through vote-by-mail. Community organizations, such as the city’s NAACP chapter, are calling for the entire election to be invalidated.

    Mail-in ballots have long been acknowledged by voting experts to be more susceptible to fraud and irregularities than in-person voting. This has raised concerns from President Trump and other Republicans about the integrity of national elections in November, which are expected to include a dramatic increase in mail-in ballots. If Paterson is any guide, it ought to concern Democrats as well.

    Over 800 ballots in Paterson were invalidated for appearing in mailboxes improperly bundled together – including a one mailbox where hundreds of ballots were in a single packet. The bundles were turned over to law enforcement to investigate potential criminal activity related to the collection of the ballots.

    The board of elections disqualified another 2,300 ballots after concluding that the signatures on them did not match the signatures on voter records.

    Reporting by NBC further uncovered citizens of Paterson who are listed as having voted, but who told the news outlet they never received a ballot and did not vote. One woman, Ramona Javier, after being shown the list of people on her block who allegedly voted, told the outlet she knew of eight family members and neighbors who were wrongly listed. “We did not receive vote-by-mail ballots and thus we did not vote,” she said. “This is corruption. This is fraud.”

    There were multiple reports that large numbers of mail-in ballots were left on the lobby floors of apartment buildings and not delivered to residents’ individual mailboxes, further casting doubt on the integrity of the election.

    Two of the election results in Paterson were particularly close. Initially, challenger Shahin Khalique defeated incumbent Mohammed Akhtaruzzaman by 1,729 votes to 1,721. After a second recount on June 19, that race is now tied 1,730-1,730. In that race, a video posted to Snapchat has surfaced that appears to show a man named Abu Razyen unlawfully handling a large stack of ballots he indicates are votes for Khalique. Khalique’s brother, Shelim, and Razyen have been charged by the state attorney general for crimes including fraud in casting mail-in votes, tampering, and unauthorized possession of ballots.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/26/1_in_5_ballots_rejected_as_fraud_is_charged_in_nj_mail-in_election_143551.html

    Do you EVER get tired of being wrong, Blathy???

    128,823 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting..

    Yea, that's your gleeful claim..

    Of course, you can't back it up with any FACTS, so it's just more of your bullshit...

  58. [58] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Exactly. Blatant lie. There is a huge difference between fraud in a single city (that was uncovered) and an entire state as you posted in [12].

  59. [59] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Of course, you can't back it up with any FACTS, so it's just more of your bullshit...

    Still playing the illiterate idiot?

  60. [60] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Or maybe you are not playing...

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    Exactly. Blatant lie. There is a huge difference between fraud in a single city (that was uncovered) and an entire state as you posted in [12].

    If you actually read the entire article, you would know that it was statewide... I know.. Actually reading is not one of your strong suits..

    As I said..

    Whatever you have to tell yourself to make it thru your day..

    Let me put it to you in words of 2 syllables even YOU can understand...

    Mail In Voting will NOT happen in any real numbers beyond the normal absentee ballot process... Any more than our Elections will do away with the Electoral College...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is NOT going to be able to steal this election by using fraudulent Mail In Voting....

    So, you might as well accept this reality.

    That's what the FACTS support... Live with it, Blathy.....

  62. [62] 
    Michale wrote:

    Still playing the illiterate idiot?

    Yes you are..

    Or else you would have posted actual FACTS to support your BS claims.. :D

  63. [63] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    I have the penthouse in Noggin Machale, it's as seedy and gauche as the rest of the building. Fake flowers in the foyer, astroturf-like carpet in the hallways, and a strange whiff of cumin.

    Meanwhile, the facts remain... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/30/trump-russia-afghanistan-military-bounty

    LL&P

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    By the way, how did you like your spanking yesterday with your "CONFEDERATE" claim that turned out to be complete and utter bullshit???

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I had a good laugh over that...

    Let's relive it, shall we... :D

    A large slice of America that includes some, possibility even most, democrats are on a warpath to destroy everything Confederate.
    -Blathy

    Yea.. Cuz Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and Andrew Jackson and Ulysses S Grant are all decidedly CONFEDERATE..
    -Michale

    BBBBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Jeeze, Blathy.... I seemed to remember a time when you were actually a challenge intellectually...

    Now yer gray matter is nothing but mush.. Must be exposure to all that Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party bullshit... :D

  65. [65] 
    Michale wrote:

    'Nuck

    Still the moron..

    Not a SINGLE fact in your link...

    As I said.. You have all the same bullshit you spewed in the run-up to Nov 2016..

    Remind me how that ended for you???

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    But hay.. If yer so sure President Trump is going to lose..

    Why not make a wager???

    Because you KNOW you are full of shit.. Just like you were 4 years ago...

    It's funny how you disappeared from Weigantia after President Trump kicked Hillary's ass...

    Just couldn't handle you have your ass handed to you, could ya??? :D

    I expect history will repeat itself..

    President Trump wins re-election and you disappear because you can't handle the humiliation.. :D

  66. [66] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yunno, should probably clear up some misconceptions..

    Just because I love to reminiscence and laugh at ya'all's bonehead plays and predictions doesn't mean you have any place in my head..

    With everything I have going on in the here and now, it's nice to think back at all ya'all's BS claims that never came to pass..

    ESPECIALLY because we're in the same situation in the here and now and ya'all are making all the old same bone head claims... :D

    What makes things so hilarious is that, with a couple exceptions, NONE of ya'all are willing to back up yer BS claims with anything tangible...

    Ergo, the ONLY possible conclusion is that ya'all don't even believe what yer spewing yerselves...

    That makes it doubly laughable.. :D

  67. [67] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    If you actually read the entire article, you would know that it was statewide...

    Ah, no. The article does not say 1 in 5 ballots for the entire state of NJ...

    Or else you would have posted actual FACTS to support your BS claims..

    Is Scientific American too hard for you to read?

    Talk about a lack of credibility. Lies and the inability to read...

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    Or else you would have posted actual FACTS to support your BS claims..

    Is Scientific American too hard for you to read?

    Apparently, it's too hard for you to post..

    You just can't post the facts because they don't support your BS claims..

    Just like your "Confederate" claims weren't supported by the FACTS..

    Talk about a lack of credibility. Lies and the inability to read...

    Says the moron who said Hillary was going to be President and said that George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S Grant and Andrew Jackson were "Confederate"...

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    You must really enjoy getting your ass kicked all the time, Blathy... :D

  69. [69] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:
  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    Seattle police retake stationhouse in CHOP, arrest multiple protesters following Durkan orders
    Police Chief Carmen Best said "enough is enough" after fatal shootings in the area

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-chop-protest-durkan

    Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party morons get their asses handed to them...

    Again, it's amazing that The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party sees this is the best way to get American votes..

    Morons...

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bullshit.

    You post a link..

    Big woop..

    I asked for FACTS.. Not links..

    Moron...

  72. [72] 
    Michale wrote:

    What else can I expect from a douchebag who thinks that George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S Grant and Andrew Jackson were "Confederate"...

    Dipshit..

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    Cuomo ridicules New York City move to strip $1B in NYPD funding

    The money would be shifted from NYPD to other programs
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomo-ridicules-new-york-city-move-to-strip-1-billion-in-nypd-funding

    Democrat on Democrat... :D

    Yea... Democrats are "united"...

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  74. [74] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    BREAKING: WATCH As St. Louis Couple Holds Off Angry, Violent Mob At Gunpoint

    St. Louis, MO — Folks in the suburbs don’t take kindly to violent, angry mobs on their lawn.

    And when the mob came to one Saint Louis neighborhood, they found what thugs will find in every suburb: an armed homeowner willing to defend his property.

    Check out this couple from Saint Louis, MO, yesterday, where they had to defend their property –and possibly their lives — from an angry, screaming mob.

    The Militia Of The Left
    These angry, violent, destructive mobs are not protestors upset about George Floyd — does anybody even remember what sparked this off?

    No, this isn’t about racism. These angry, destructive mobs are the armed and violent militia of the left. We must start calling them that.

    For now, they’re being given a blank check by Democrat leaders who want the instability the mobs are causing — because it helps destabilize President Donald Trump.

    But that blank check is only valid for so long. And there are millions of Americans who won’t stand by while angry violent mobs destroy the country.
    https://www.secondamendmentdaily.com/2020/06/breaking-watch-as-st-louis-couple-holds-off-angry-violent-mob-at-gunpoint/

    THAT is how ya handle The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party....

    The mob is all big and tough when they have innocent unarmed people to terrorize..

    But, typical of the cowards of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party, they run like cowards when confronted with armed and trained Americans..

    Even though they couple are lawyers... They obviously know how to handle the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party mob... :D

  75. [75] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    I asked for FACTS.. Not links..

    Really? Is that how far your credibility has fallen?

    Click a link on the history bar to the left. Read some of your posts before your mental decline. You were once interesting to argue with. Now you are just a fool.

    Quick, toss some insults and Self-aggrandize, as it seems that's all your mental capacity can handle...

  76. [76] 
    Michale wrote:

    Reprinted With Permission

    OPINION: Why no outrage? Atlanta shootings surge, but it’s not the cops

    The exchange was surreal, a sign that the wheels may be falling off public safety in Atlanta.

    Fittingly, it happened Monday during the City Council’s Public Safety Committee hearing as council members and interim Police Chief Rodney Bryant were grappling with the unrest plaguing the city.Councilman Antonio Brown, who represents the district just west of downtown, was getting ready to speak in the virtual meeting when he told the chief: “I was just notified there was a young man who was just shot and killed at 377 Westchester Boulevard. Can you get a unit out there? He’s been on the ground and there’s no police who have come. He’s dead already, he’s on the ground and the residents have put a sheet over him and the police still haven’t arrived.”

    It sounds like Afghanistan: Can you please come and pick up the body?

    Where is the outrage from The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLivesMatter Party??

    I mean, the cops didn't shoot this guy.. Where are the Democrats???

    But there’s more.On June 13, as angry protesters milled around the south Atlanta Wendy’s the day after Rayshard Brooks was shot in the parking lot by a cop — and hours before the restaurant was burned down — there was a wild shootout in the Edgewood neighborhood in east Atlanta. Five people were wounded and two were killed. Residents reported hearing perhaps 40 gunshots.Earlier this month, the owners of a bar in the popular Edgewood Avenue nightlife district posted a photo online of the business’s window smashed by a bullet. They said they felt unsafe and were closing “until the city gets its #@&! together.”What caused this?

    Eight people were shot nearby in six days.

    Where is the outrage from you Weigantians???

    Don't these black lives matter???

    You see?? THIS is exactly why it's IMPOSSIBLE to take you people seriously..

    It's ALL about the politics... Ideology... It's not as if anyone here really CARES about George Floyd or Rayshard Brooks..

    Hell, if those guys were white, ya'all wouldn't even know their name..

    So, can we chuck the phony virtue signaling???

    It's LAUGHABLE...

  77. [77] 
    Michale wrote:

    Quick, toss some insults and Self-aggrandize, as it seems that's all your mental capacity can handle...

    Says the moron who said that George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S Grant and Andrew Jackson were "Confederate"...

    Face reality, Blathy..

    You can't win..

    "You can't win.. I have god on my side!!"
    -Leland Gant, NEEDFUL THINGS

    :D

  78. [78] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Right on cue. What a fool.

  79. [79] 
    Michale wrote:

    Right on cue. What a fool.

    blaaa blaaa blaaa blaaaa

    Facts hurt, don't the Blathy..

    Hell, you haven't been factually accurate in this forum for months... :D

    Ya gonna be able to hang around til Nov when President Trump wins re-election??

    I doubt it..

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:

    http://sjfm.us/pics/jumpstart.jpg

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    :D

  81. [81] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Wow! So a group of Republicans in one town go out and commit “massive” (but extremely obvious) voter fraud in order to “prove” how dangerous mail-in ballots are to our elections...who could have ever guessed that would happen???

    And why would you think that the system in place did not work? They caught the fraudulent ballots...that’s how this is how it is supposed to work! The outcome of the election shouldn’t be tossed if they are confident that they have verified the signatures on the remaining ballots. It’s only if we discover elections have had their outcomes affected by actual voter fraud that we should consider changing how mail-in voting works.

    This is just Trump doing his National Enquirer routine of creating stories to feed the press. Did an employee named John Barron uncover the fraud?

  82. [82] 
    Michale wrote:

    Republicans welcome end of CHOP zone, say it comes 'several deaths too late'
    'Finally,' McConnell tweeted. 'Twenty-some days and several deaths too late'

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gopers-end-of-chop-zone-several-deaths-too-late

    What IS it about The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party that they are all about death and Trump/America hate???

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    Wow! So a group of Republicans in one town go out and commit “massive” (but extremely obvious) voter fraud in order to “prove” how dangerous mail-in ballots are to our elections...who could have ever guessed that would happen???

    Facts to support???

    No???

    Of course not...

    Ya'all NEVER have any facts..

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    How safe are Utah’s mail-in ballots from voter fraud?

    SALT LAKE CITY – With the overwhelming majority of voter fraud in the U.S. tied to mail-in ballots, it’s no surprise some Utahns are skeptical about participating in an all mail-in primary election.

    Weber County Clerk Ricky Hatch believes Utah voters do not need to worry because the state has protections others do not.

    One of the biggest ways they fight voter fraud is by checking signatures on the ball
    https://kslnewsradio.com/1928247/how-safe-are-utahs-mail-in-ballots-from-voter-fraud/?

    Mail In Votes are the most fraud prone voting available..

    The only people who support Mail In Voting are those who want to cheat..

    Hence, The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    They know that Joe YouAintBlack Biden has no other chance to win except by cheating..

    It's really that simple..

  85. [85] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    15 Election Results That Were Thrown Out Because of Fraudulent Mail-In Ballots

    Voter fraud is too nominal to make a difference in any given election, goes one popular line of argument. But tell that to voters in parts of Florida, Missouri, New York, and North Carolina in recent years.

    Districts in these four states saw election outcomes overturned after absentee voter fraud came to light.

    Now, with millions of Americans homebound because of COVID-19, progressives are amping up their push for national mail-in voting as Michelle Obama throws her support behind related legislation purporting to be a response to the pandemic.

    What neither the former first lady nor the bill’s Democrat sponsors in the Senate, Ron Wyden of Oregon and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, have talked about are various provisions of the legislation that would allow for ballot harvesting. That practice was abused prominently in the largest voter fraud scandal of recent decades.

    In these trying times, we must turn to the greatest document in the history of the world to promise freedom and opportunity to its citizens for guidance. Find out more now >>

    “It mandates states allow for ballot harvesting and vote by mail. On the whole, this has little to do with a COVID-19 response and a lot to do with the agenda the Democratic Party has proposed in the past,” Jason Snead, executive director of the watchdog group Honest Elections, said of the bill in a phone interview with The Daily Signal.

    “They seem to view this as a politically opportune moment to advance legislation,” Snead said of Obama and other proponents.

    “States should be encouraging wide use of absentee voting in the primary season,” Snead said, adding that states also should prepare for contingencies during the November general election even though it’s too early to know what the coronavirus crisis will be like at that point.

    While working in the civil rights division of the Justice Department, J. Christian Adams helped bring successful cases against election fraudsters in Starr County, Texas and Noxubee County, Mississippi.

    “With ballot harvesting, the politically connected visit the homes of people and vote the ballots for them. These are victims often afraid of consequences,” Adams, now president of Public Interest Legal Foundation, an election integrity group, told The Daily Signal.
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/21/15-election-results-that-were-thrown-out-because-of-fraudulent-mail-in-ballots/

    Like I said..

    If you support Mail Voting, it's because you want to cheat...

  86. [86] 
    Michale wrote:

    From the ONLY acceptable Weigantian facts/website...

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    Democrats Botch the Vote, Then Cry 'Suppression'

    Many Democrats have made “voter suppression” their rallying cry, accusing Republicans of undermining the right to vote. Lately they point to the Georgia primaries June 9, when voters stood in line for hours, and precincts had to be kept open until after midnight to accommodate those still waiting at the 8 p.m. closing time. Thousands of absentee ballots never arrived in the mailboxes of people who requested them.

    Former President Barack Obama invoked voter suppression in a fundraising appeal for a Democratic dark-money group, attacking “bad-faith politicians”—of which party you can guess—who “try to silence your voice.” Former Attorney General Eric Holder echoed him, decrying the “blatant voter disenfranchisement” the GOP unleashed in Georgia. Hillary Clinton said the Georgia debacle “was by design” and “a threat to our democracy.”

    Democratic candidates have taken up the cry. Texas state Sen. Royce West, who’s seeking the party’s U.S. Senate nomination, cited Georgia in declaring “the GOP knows their only path to victory involves suppressing the vote.” Vice presidential hopeful Stacey Abrams blamed Georgia’s Republican secretary of state for the “unmitigated disaster” in the primary.

    When Kentucky officials announced that Tuesday’s primary would be held with fewer than 200 polling locations rather than the normal 3,700, even King James—basketball legend LeBron—tweeted, “This is SYSTEMATIC RACISM and OPPRESSION. So angry man.” He’d earlier written that Georgia’s primary raised the question “if how we vote is also structurally racist.”

    The problem? Votes weren’t suppressed.

    The Georgia primary turnout was the largest in state history. While Kentucky’s results won’t be announced before June 30, officials there also expect to beat the state’s record, from 2008. It hardly sounds as if the vote was suppressed. But even if it were, the ex-president and the NBA megastar would be wrong to blame Republicans.

    In Georgia, counties run elections. They set polling places, allocate voting machines, mail absentee ballots, recruit and train election workers, supervise Election Day and tally the results. The problems in the Georgia primary were centered in Fulton and DeKalb counties. Fulton contains Atlanta, while DeKalb includes the largely black suburbs directly east.

    Democrats control both the Fulton and DeKalb county governments. DeKalb’s board of commissioners consists of six Democrats and one Republican. Fulton’s has four Democrats and three Republicans. DeKalb board chairman Steve Bradshaw and Fulton chairman Robb Pitts are African-American Democrats.

    The commissions in turn elect chairmen of boards of registration and elections. Both counties’ election boards consist of two Republicans and three Democrats, including their Democratic chairmen. It was these Democrat-run county governments that ran the elections that Mr. Obama, Mrs. Clinton and other progressives savaged as Republican voter suppression efforts.

    In Kentucky, the reduction in the number of precincts and expansion of mail-in voting were both due to coronavirus concerns detailed in an executive order signed by the state’s Democratic governor, Andy Beshear. The elections were also run by counties.

    Louisville, Kentucky’s biggest city, has a consolidated city-county government. The mayor is a Democrat, while the county clerk is a Republican. They centralized in-person voting at a 1.2-million-square-foot convention hall with 350 socially distanced voting stations. Yet with massive numbers of mail-in ballots, voter participation surged. Other than a rush before the 6 p.m. close, wait times were low at the convention center. There were more problems in Fayette County, home to Lexington, the state’s second most populous city. The county’s executive, clerk and most of its elections board are Democrats.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/06/25/democrats_botch_the_vote_then_cry_suppression_515445.html

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party are all about winning..

    By hook or by crook...

    Let's face reality... Joe "Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this" Biden can't win unless he cheats...

    I simply can't wait til the first President Trump/Biden debate...

    Biden will likely concede the race after that....

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    Media narrative of peaceful Seattle CHOP zone turned upside down as mayor sends in police to stop violence

    As protesters and armed anarchists seized control last month of a swath of Seattle's downtown that includes a police station, dubbing it Capitol Hill Organized Protest, the local and mainstream media largely echoed elected leaders by insisting it was a peaceful protest – until people started getting killed.

    The spin by the Seattle Times and national outlets that covered it belied the violent and dangerous origin of the area that began on June 8, when Seattle police abandoned their own station and allowed self-described anarchists to create a "police-free" zone. On Wednesday, police went back in and finished clearing out the area, after multiple shootings, an alleged rape and at least two murders.

    “CHOP violently seized six blocks of downtown Seattle, guarded the area they stole with semi-automatic rifles and appointed a leader who called himself a warlord and the media spun it as a fun time with ‘free snacks,’” Washington Times columnist Tim Young told Fox News.

    LATEST SEATTLE CHOP SHOOTING KILLS 16-YEAR-OLD BOY, CRITICALLY WOUNDS 14-YEAR-OLD BOY

    “That's as insane as saying Boko Haram was just trying to start a dating service when they kidnapped nearly 300 women in Nigeria a few years ago,” Young added. “And those liberal outlets probably still can't figure out why people call them fake news.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/seattle-chop-violence-media-insisted-peaceful

    This is how The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party really is...

    And you people honestly think that is how the American people want their country to be??

    Lawless, murders, riots....

    Seriously!???

    That is exactly what The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party stands for..

    The American people do not..

    It's THAT simple...

  88. [88] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    Joe Biden Owns The Democratic Party’s Insanity

    The Democratic Party has gone off the deep end and taken Joe Biden with it.

    In New York City, shootings have skyrocketed over the past few weeks to levels not seen since what we refer to as “the bad old days.” Teenagers are being senselessly killed in our streets. What is the Democratic Party’s answer to this? They are stripping a billion dollars from the $6 billion budget of the New York Police Department in a display of virtue signaling that will lead to bullet holes in black and brown bodies.

    As Democrats across the country plot to defund the police and tear down statues of great Americans, as they cower to mobs that set up “autonomous zones” where people are raped and murdered, Joe Biden is hiding behind his mask. Every single time a racist or bigot says they support Donald Trump, the media demands the president denounce them. Why isn’t that same media demanding Biden denounce the Jacobin mobs destroying our cities?

    Biden would have you believe he is the leader of the Democratic Party. He is no more the leader of the Democratic Party than Thomas Jefferson or Andrew Jackson. He is a bobble-head version of a moderate Democratic Party that has long since shuffled off this mortal coil. Where once Blue Dog Democrats patrolled their party to protect police and law and order, now a progressive clown car runs roughshod over America’s cities.

    Everyone must understand that if they vote for Biden, they are voting for the Democratic Party. That is a party that by and large on the state and local level has given over to Marxist ideologies that keep our streets unsafe, poorly educate our children, destroy jobs — like Biden’s pal Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did in killing the Amazon headquarters in Queens — and heap disdain upon heroic figures such as Teddy Roosevelt.

    Biden isn’t going to change any of that. Uncle Joe from Scranton might love America, but his party demonstrably does not. Its official Twitter account alleges that Mount Rushmore is a tribute to white supremacy. In election after election, its stable elected officials, such as Joe Crowley and Eliot Engel, lose primaries to literal socialists. That’s what you pull the lever for if you pull the lever for Biden.
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/01/joe-biden-owns-the-democratic-partys-insanity/

    It can't be made any plainer than that...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is anti-America....

    It's THAT simple...

  89. [89] 
    Michale wrote:

    Since it was established, there have been at least four shootings, two of which left a 19-year-old and a 16-year-old dead in separate incidents. Seattle police made more than a dozen arrests after Mayor Jenny Durkan declared the gathering an unlawful assembly – a far cry from how it was originally portrayed by the media and by Durkan herself.

    The mayor responded to criticism of her leadership by President Trump by tweeting that he should not be "so afraid of democracy."

    “The CHOP has become lawless and brutal,” Police Chief Carmen Best said Wednesday in a written statement. “Four shootings – two fatal – robberies, assaults, violence and countless property crimes have occurred in this several block area.”

    The Seattle Times was perhaps the most egregious when it came to celebrating the cop-free area. The paper boasted about free snacks and pleasant smells inside the zone, called CHAZ at the time, on June 10.

    That's what The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party calls "democracy"..

    Murders.. Arson... Looting...

    No wonder the Party can't govern....

  90. [90] 
    Michale wrote:

    FL Sheriff: I’ll deputize gun owners if violent protests erupt

    GREEN COVE SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) — A Florida sheriff says he will deputize every gun owner in his county to put down violent protests his deputies can’t handle alone.

    Clay County Sheriff Darryl Daniels gave no indication in a three-minute video released Wednesday that any demonstrations are planned in his suburban Jacksonville county.

    Still, he said if anyone starts “tearing up Clay County,” he would deputize gun owners if needed.
    https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/fl-sheriff-ill-deputize-gun-owners-if-violent-protests-erupt/?fbclid=IwAR3EXdUt7bhpfiKYiBU014BAy9qEVu0fDN-pbUXFkHWODsojGYidDlSiF6U

    Down here in FL, we know how to handle The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party....

    I just double dog dare ya'all's Party to start some shit.. PLEASE....

  91. [91] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    Democrats want us to believe that Biden will restore normalcy. What normalcy? The normalcy where nobody can go to a baseball game or a Broadway show? The normalcy where we wear masks for the rest of out lives because Dr. Anthony Fauci says so? The normalcy where small businesses are destroyed and everyone works for giant corporations as faceless as our masked citizenry? No, thanks.

    We get it, Trump is uncouth. He says stupid stuff he shouldn’t say. He’s not careful. Fine. But he is not the candidate of a party hell bent on destroying American history and institutions, Biden is. The Democratic Party as currently assembled is a radical leftist organization and must be treated as such. It dons Kente cloths in performative woke displays of racial guilt. It points to foreign nations with never so much freedom as ours and ponders why can’t we be more like them?

    Biden can’t hide forever. Even if he wins his campaign in absentia and becomes president, the moment will come when the socialists in his party will put bill after bill on his desk — defunding police, tearing down statues of Abraham Lincoln, letting men compete in women’s sports, punishing Americans for expressing their religious views — and he will sign each and every one with his million-dollar smile, a mere rubber stamp for the cackling mobs.

    Biden is not the leader of the snowball of insanity hurdling down the mountain that is the Democratic Party. He is an empty facade, a final facile gesture to pride in America before his party tears it down, and maybe even him with it. Joe Biden owns this. He owns all of it. He is his party, and he is just as dangerous as they are.

    Does anyone here REALLY and honestly believe that Joe Biden can win???

    He's head lunatic in a Party of lunatics...

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party prove it on a daily basis...

  92. [92] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK Dinner time and binge watching more of THE AMERICANS..

    I gotta tell ya.. It really pisses me off how they portray the FBI and the CIA as totally incompetent..

    On the other hand, I like that they portray the time period... Brings back a lot of memories..

    Like the episode where Reagan got shot... I remember that night explicitly...

    I was on patrol at the Makimanato Housing area on Okinawa... We got called in from patrol and reposted to secure areas at Kadena..

    Brought back a lot of memories...

    Ni Ni all..

  93. [93] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Trump again claims coronavirus is ‘going to just disappear’ as US sees record number of new cases
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-coronavirus-cases-us-fox-news-interview-today-covid-a9596631.html

    Just like last time he said the same thing? This is just pathetic, Trump has no plan, just let Americans die until coronavirus goes away on it's own.

    129,799 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  94. [94] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, eventually, everybody and everything will disappear, I guess.

  95. [95] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    93

    Just like last time he said the same thing? This is just pathetic, Trump has no plan, just let Americans die until coronavirus goes away on it's own.

    Haven't you heard how the heat is just going to make that whole problem go away? Lots of people are saying it. :)

    129,799 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    That MikeMeter® by which Weigantia was asked to judge Donald Trump is proving beyond measure his complete and total incompetence. Keep them coming. :)

  96. [96] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale [12] -

    You know what I hear? "We're going to lose, so we've got to get our excuses ready NOW!"

    Heh. Utah, dude. UTAH. Not a librul in sight...

    [14] -

    I realize you are stuck with defending the impossible -- Trump can vote absentee in FL (illegally, since his "residence" is a business, which is not allowed), but everyone else can't. Yeah, good luck with that line of tripe...

    [15] -

    Yeah, and I'm just SURE you'd give Barack Obama the same massive benefit of the doubt... like you did on Benghazi, right?

    Heh.

    The desperation is obviously setting in, among Trumpies...

    [17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25] --

    Totally irrelevant to the subject at hand. Ignored.

    Oh, wait, this popped out:

    No wonder 40% of black Americans support President Trump.. By election day, that number could very well be up to 60%... Or even 70%....

    BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!

    Hoo boy... I mean...

    BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!

    Your delusion knows no end. If Trump gets double digits of the Black vote, you could knock me over with a feather. Because it just ain't gonna happen, dude.

    Heh heh heh. But thanks for the laugh!

    [26, 27]

    Totally irrelevant to the subject at hand. Ignored.

    [30, 31] -

    Totally irrelevant to the subject at hand. Ignored.

    Oh, wait, you're going with "COVID-19 is a hoax"? Wow. Good luck with that...

    LizM [32] -

    Truer words have never been spoken. Or posted as a comment!

    Heh.

    :-)

    Michale [38] -

    Who's "Bono"?? :D

    Heh. OK, THAT was funny. It's inconceivable that even you haven't heard of Bono -- or as my wife calls him, "your man, there."

    (It's an Irish thing.)

    [Many more Michale posts...] -

    Totally irrelevant to the subject at hand. Ignored.

    And who, exactly is giving you all this "permission" to repost?

    Just wonderin'...

    BashiBazouk [56] -

    Aha! A voice of sanity!!!

    Heh.

    Michale [57] -

    So you seem to be saying that the safety checks in place are actually working? I'm confused.

    Heh.

    OK, everything else scanned and ignored. Seriously, Mcihale, do you realize that desperation posting of the meme from conservative media that "mobs in the streets are going to swing the elections" over and over is doing nothing more than exposing the rank desperation of the Trump supporters? I mean, the vast majority of Americans now agree with Black Lives Matter and the protesters -- because they aren't just watching Fox News' attempt to portray it all as some sort of breakdown of civil society. That effort has already failed. Deal with it. The public has decided, and not the way you think it has.

    November can't come fast enough...

    -CW

  97. [97] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW: Your delusion knows no end. If Trump gets double digits of the Black vote, you could knock me over with a feather. Because it just ain't gonna happen, dude.

    I know, right!? Just as you said in your response on yesterday's commentary, this data is measured via exit polling on election day. The 2016 exit polling data show Trump received about 8% of the "Black vote," and I cannot fathom why anyone would conclude, based on Trump's words and actions during his presidency that Trump would actually improve on the outcome from 2016.

    If the latest data from June 14, 2020 are any indication, Trump is indeed losing ground:

    Q3. (AMONG BLACK AMERICAN REGISTERED VOTERS) If the presidential election were held today, for whom would you vote if the candidates were (Joe Biden, the Democrat) or (Donald Trump, the Republican)?

    Biden: 92
    Trump: 5

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/june-9-14-2020-washington-post-ipsos-poll/9da7d577-8bba-4319-97bb-2cea5aebca7e/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2

    Five percent. Of course, there's still time for Trump to improve on that and perhaps get it back up to that whopping 8% he received in 2016.

    I hear that New York City is painting a "Black Lives Matter" banner in front of Trump Tower on 5th Avenue. Maybe if Trump says something nice about the new artwork, it'll garner him a few points of support. Oh, wait... I am being told Trump referred to any such artists' rendering as a "symbol of hate"... so probably not. ;)

  98. [98] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    If you don't know who to vote for in 2020, you ain't black.

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