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What Could Trump Really Say?

[ Posted Monday, June 1st, 2020 – 16:51 UTC ]

[Editorial Note: Sometimes, events overtake me while I'm writing. This is obviously one of those times. While I was writing and editing this article, it seems Donald Trump gave a Rose Garden address to the nation. So the following will have to be compared to what Trump actually said. Please read it with this in mind.]

 

President Donald Trump, not so long ago, took delight in ridiculing Joe Biden for (as he put it) "hiding in his basement." Now, however, the tables have turned and it is Trump who is cowering in the nether regions of White House, while Biden freely visits with protesters in Delaware. Trump has hunkered down over the weekend, at one point reportedly being hustled to a secure facility (in the basement of the White House, ironically enough) as protests raged just outside Trump's own windows. Trump has had no idea what to do about the situation, especially since his call for a "MAGA night" of counterprotests in front of the White House was completely ignored by his supporters (no counterprotest materialized -- much to Trump's dismay, one assumes). Today he conducted a conference call with the nation's governors, where he lashed out in typical Trump fashion -- suggesting that if only protesters were locked up "for 10 years" it would instantly solve the problem. Throughout it all, the American people have had no guidance or leadership from Trump whatsoever.

Apparently, there are two factions within the White House fighting over what Trump's response should now be. On one side are aides urging Trump to issue a primetime Oval Office address designed to unite the country. On the other side are aides who know full well the inherent risks involved in this strategy, who are saying Trump should continue his silence. Their argument is that Trump has nothing new to say and he would risk his political chances of re-election if he said anything particularly incendiary right now.

I have to agree with this latter analysis, since while it is indeed normal (and even expected) for an American president to address the nation in times of strife, the question with this particular president is what, exactly, he could say right now that would have the slightest beneficial effect whatsoever. Every time his speechwriters produce heartfelt words for Trump to say (and they have indeed tried, many times during Trump's time in office), the result is pretty much the same -- Trump reads the words so woodenly that his performances have been likened to "hostage videos" (where prisoners are forced to spout propaganda they obviously doesn't believe). A more charitable metaphor might be an elementary school student reading something out of a textbook that they clearly have zero understanding of, struggling at times to pronounce difficult words. That's what Trump has done each and every time his aides attempt to portray Trump as any sort of "uniter" in troubled times. The most recent of these was Trump's Oval Office address on the coronavirus, which was such a disaster that the White House had to hastily scramble to correct all the inaccuracies that Trump had just told the American people. Which is the second big risk for a Trump speech of this type, because Trump does himself no favors when he goes off-script and starts ad-libbing off the top of his head.

It is sad that we are where we now are, with a president fundamentally incapable of showing the slightest shred of empathy for anyone's problems but his own. Even if Trump did decide to address the country, few would give him points for sincerity, no matter what words he mouthed. If Trump called for calm, who would believe him? If Trump tried to address racial inequality and police brutality, there's no reason anyone would give him any credence, given all his past statements and actions. Since the crisis erupted in Minnesota, Trump has done nothing short of pouring rhetorical gasoline on the fire, which pretty much precludes him from trying to soothe the nation. In fact, it's pretty hard to even use the word "soothe" in any sentence that also has Donald Trump in it.

After all, Trump's knee-jerk reaction to any crisis is not to soothe but to inflame. He's already identified a boogeyman and threatened to "declare 'Antifa' a domestic terrorist organization." There are only two or three things wrong with this, starting with the reality that Antifa isn't even an organization to begin with, it's more of a shared ideology or a credo. Second, there is no federal law that can be used to designate any person or group "domestic terrorists." Congress has considered writing such a law in the past, but has never actually done so, meaning that such a designation would be meaningless at its heart. And third, the protests and rioting are not some grand anti-Trump conspiracy, they are much more organic in nature. There simply is no anti-Trump villain pulling the strings from behind the scenes, no matter what Trump seems to believe. There are indeed agitators using the protests to advance violence, but early indications are that such agitators come from both radical ends of the political spectrum, far right and far left.

In normal times of crisis (if that term itself isn't an oxymoron), American presidents appeal to the better nature of the public and try to defuse volatility, perhaps by channeling it into more-constructive purposes. If you'd like to read a prime example of this, Barack Obama just wrote one, in which he calls for young people to channel their rage into voting and into making very specific demands rather than just espousing free-floating rage at the system. Obama can show moral leadership in a crisis, quite obviously. Trump, however, cannot. You have to be seen as having some morals to begin with in order to show any moral leadership, to be blunt.

Which leaves us where we are, with a president unsure if he should even attempt to address the nation when the streets are on fire. Donald Trump has the choice of making an insincere speech, composed of words that he would never normally utter and concepts completely foreign to him (such as "soothe" or "compassion" or "empathy") -- or he could continue to do nothing in the hopes of not harming his chances of re-election beyond the damage that has already been done. Trump's opponents have long warned that he was absolutely incapable of showing any leadership during a crisis, and this has now been proven to be absolutely and unequivocally true. At this point, Trump's silence is probably a good thing, because the less he tries to speak about what's going on in the country, the less he'll make a bad situation worse.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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156 Comments on “What Could Trump Really Say?”

  1. [1] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW: Trump has had no idea what to do about the situation, especially since his call for a "MAGA night" of counterprotests in front of the White House was completely ignored by his supporters.

    The MAGAts are busily hysterically whining about "Democrat protesters" as meanwhile, their Orange Worship is calling on them to protest for Trump. Sounds like that "MAGA night" was even less attended than Trump's inauguration... so how much longer before the canines refuse to heel when their master blows the whistles? #TurningPoint

  2. [2] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW: On the other side are aides who know full well the inherent risks involved in this strategy, who are saying Trump should continue his silence.

    Did none of them think to take his phone or restrain his hands from shooting off his mouth via tweet?

  3. [3] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    All citizens, not just young people should channel their rage into voting and into making very specific demands.

    A good place to start would a demand for small donor only candidates as this can make it possible to elect candidates that will make it possible to achieve other demands that cannot be achieved while big money controls our political process.

    Wake up. Wise up. Rise up.
    Get Real.

  4. [4] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW: In fact, it's pretty hard to even use the word "soothe" in any sentence that also has Donald Trump in it.

    Please allow me to demonstrate how it's accomplished:

    After ordering the teargassing of peaceful protesters outside the White House today, Donald Trump walked across Pennsylvania Avenue to pose for the media while raising a Bible in front of St. John's Episcopal Church because he was reportedly upset over their coverage of him hiding in the White House bunker and needed to soothe his fragile ego and change the narrative.

  5. [5] 
    Kick wrote:

    St. John's clergy say Trump used "one of our churches as a prop"

    Clergy of the historic St. John’s Episcopal Church expressed furor and confusion over President Trump's visit on Monday, which he claimed was to honor the establishment after George Floyd protestors sparked a small fire on the property Sunday night.

    The big picture: Park rangers and military police deployed tear gas and physical force to disperse peaceful protestors from Lafayette Park, which surrounds the White House, so Trump could walk to "pay respects" to the church.

    St. John’s, which is over 200 years old, is just steps away from the White House and is often referred to as the "church of the presidents."

    What they're saying: Mariann Budde, the Episcopal Bishop of Washington, D.C., told the Washington Post on Monday she is "outraged" by the visit.

    "We so disassociate ourselves from the messages of this president," she said. "We hold the teachings of our sacred texts to be so so grounding to our lives and everything we do and it is about love of neighbor and sacrificial love and justice."

    Trump held a bible in his hand while standing outside the church for only a few minutes. Budde said Trump had "done everything to divide us and has just used one of the most sacred symbols of the Judeo-Christian tradition."

    The pastor of St. John's also told Fox News on Monday that he was unaware Trump was coming to the establishment, saying: "I feel like I'm in some alternative universe in a way."

    National Episcopal clergy have joined in the outage. Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Central Florida Greg Brewer tweeted: "I am shaken watching protestors in Lafayette Park gassed and cleared so that the President of the United States can do a photo ... This is blasphemy in real time."

    https://www.axios.com/st-johns-church-trump-visit-bible-george-floyd-2d7013fa-337c-42ef-9d1d-2acffbe59bbb.html

  6. [6] 
    SF Bear wrote:

    So what happens if Trump sends troops to invade a city that doesn't want them? If the Mayor of San Francisco stood in the way of Trump's Army entering town would he attempt to arrest her? Would the solders fire on San Francisco Police? Would Trump have his tanks blow up our City Hall? Looks like things are getting out of hand. What about all the adults in the room that were supposed to save us from this maniac?

  7. [7] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    But...where is #SickFuckMichale who pays CW well to get to post #TrumpanzeePropaganda on CW's blog. Michael, since you post here solely to (not convince) people but rather to slavishly worship Cheetogod, um, what the fuck Dude? Convince me, don't call me names

  8. [8] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    What happens if Trump sends the army to a city that wants it or not and the army doesn't go?

  9. [9] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    [3] Don Harris
    Now we're getting somewhere, if you read the editorial and understand that activism and voting are both requisite to achieving democratic change.

    So the bottom line is this: if we want to bring about real change, then the choice isn’t between protest and politics. We have to do both. We have to mobilize to raise awareness, and we have to organize and cast our ballots to make sure that we elect candidates who will act on reform.

    Voting is done for the purpose of electing candidates to office. Candidates who are not elected cannot effectively change business as usual. Withholding one's vote or lodging a protest vote does not educate the populace, bring attention to a problem, form consensus on reform, or lead/pressure elected officials to implement reform.

  10. [10] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [9]

    MyVoice

    Welcome aboard, in the event that you're new here (I only started noticing the comments section here perhaps a year ago, so perhaps you've been here before me.)

    Your analysis is spot on, especially to those that are tempted to not vote as a form of protest.

    I LOVE folks that don't vote because it means that MY vote is a larger part of the whole mix. Doesn't mean that my vote will make a difference, necessarily, but you know I'm closer to making a difference when less fools vote.

    If yer new here we have a resident troll, #SickFuckMichale, but no need to pay attention to a guy who thinks that Google is a "lefty website." I tried to tell the fool that Google will take him to his DailyStormer but he doesn't get it.

  11. [11] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, this piece compares pretty well with what actually happened. And, the bottom line remains true, as it always will.

  12. [12] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Alas, 'tis our American "underclass" that (rightly?) thinks that "the system is rigged" so they refuse to participate in our Constitutional Republic. Pity that, because they don't appear to understand that there are more of us 90%-ers than there are 10%-ers.

  13. [13] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    [10] MtnCaddy

    Thanks, MC, but I've been here long enough to go all the way down the rabbit hole with Don and confirm that he is impervious to information that does not confirm his thesis. I'm not expecting anything here, just expressing hope about that glimmer of understanding I think I saw in his post.

  14. [14] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    False glimmer.

  15. [15] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [13]

    Yes, but I do NOT regard Don Harris as any kind of troll. Mayhaps b/c I ultimately believe that he's right... keep voting for #BigMoney and #BigMoney will keep fuckíng us.

    Where I digress from Don is how we get from here (keep voting for #BigMoney and #BigMoney will keep fuckíng us) to there. I disagree with his belief that Biden will attract enough "extra" voters by going "small doner' b/c I think that that just hands Drumph a $400M advertising advantage.

    The troll I was trying to alert you to calls himself "Michale" and he gives himself every opportunity to make me suspect that he gets paid in rubles and methamphetamine.

  16. [16] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [8]

    Brother Don,

    ...as an Army Vet we were taught that we had to comply with every "lawful" order (i.e. no more Mé Lais.)

    Trump cannót, therefore, order our United States by fucking God Army to crush protesters. Period.

    Don't you think that our Army hates Russian Stooge Trump as much as any other brànch of government hates him?

    Rest easy, Big Guy.

  17. [17] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    It was bizarre as usual to see the Orange One go to that church in an attempt to counter the factual narrative of him hiding in his bunker like a chicken. Does the corona virus warrior death cult really believe that he has a relationship with their imaginary friend? I doubt that they do or they are bigger dipshits than I give them credit for. Of course, the Big Book of Contradictions that he was waving around might be a helpful manipulation tool for him if he knew the first thing about it, but he doesn't, so it might as well have been The Cat In The Hat.

  18. [18] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    MtnCaddy,

    Russian chatbots just want attention similar to Dear Leader. It's best to just ignore them.

  19. [19] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    John From Censornati wrote:

    Russian chatbots just want attention similar to Dear Leader. It's best to just ignore them.

    Yah, but I hate Russian chatbots and it's so much fun to kick them around the block.

    Signed-

    Trying to Çut Back
    From Kicking Russbots around the Block

  20. [20] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    #SiçkFuckMichale... come out to plaaay!

  21. [21] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Trump teargassed a crowd of peaceful protesters so he could get that photo op that he wanted so badly...and it has to be one of the most unnatural photos that I have ever seen!

    Trump standing in front of the boarded-up church all by himself, holding a Bible like a guy forced to go on a camping trip he did not want to go on and whose Mother insists that she must get a photo of him showing off the first fish he has ever caught! Trump stands there, no smile, holding the Bible in a way that tells everyone the Bible has no true meaning to him. I hope we start seeing that photo hung in church offices all across America! I’m sure Trump sells them on his website...next to the soft core photos from the First Lady’s time doing porn.

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    FPC,

    (CNN)Experts hired by George Floyd's family and the Hennepin County Medical Examiner have concluded his death was a homicide, but they differ on what caused it.

    The independent autopsy says Floyd died of "asphyxiation from sustained pressure" when his neck and back were compressed by Minneapolis police officers during his arrest last week. The pressure cut off blood flow to his brain, that autopsy determined.
    But the medical examiner's office, in its report also released Monday, said that the cause of death is "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." Cardiopulmonary arrest means Floyd's heart failed.
    The medical examiner made no mention of asphyxiation.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/george-floyd-independent-autopsy/index.html

    So, who to believe.. The guy who got paid off by the family??

    Or the professional and official Medical Examiner..

    Gee, that's a tough call to make..

    As an aside.. I find it hilarious that Stig still hangs on my every word! :D

    PWNED

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    But...where is #SickFuckMichale who pays CW well to get to post #TrumpanzeePropaganda on CW's blog. Michael, since you post here solely to (not convince) people but rather to slavishly worship Cheetogod, um, what the fuck Dude? Convince me, don't call me names

    So, you are saying that are host is "paid off" by me so I can post here??

    That's pretty rude to come into a man's "home" and start throwing accusations of bribery at him...

    It's also hilarious how you beg and plead with me not to call you names and yet your comment is FULL of name-calling..

    Can you explain this hypocrisy, dumb ass???

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW,

    After all, Trump's knee-jerk reaction to any crisis is not to soothe but to inflame.

    You mean, like when Democrats say "Never let a crisis go to waste.."

    You mean like that???

    and threatened to "declare 'Antifa' a domestic terrorist organization.

    No threat needed at all.. The Democrat group AntiFa IS a terrorist organization..

    This is fact...

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    Also from last commentary..

    14 TRILLION in slave reparations!!

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I wouldn't have thought it possible, but that bit of Dumbocrat lunacy and idiocy actually got FUNNIER overnight!! :D

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump says to send 'thousands' of troops, police to US capital's streets
    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-send-thousands-troops-police-us-capitals-233923145.html

    So, the 2nd US Civil War has begun..

    Patriotic Americans who are well armed and well trained...

    VS

    Punk-assed Trump/America hating Democrats who are scared of guns...

    Gee... I wonder who will win.... :D

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    The unrest has been the most widespread in the United States since 1968, when cities went up in flames over the slaying of civil rights icon Martin Luther King Jr.

    And we all know what happened in 1968... The Democrats got their asses handed to them at the voting booth...

    Looks like history is on track to repeat itself... :D

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    I also must point out how amazing this is.

    All of the sudden, a new shiny appears and the Trump/America haters TOTALLY forget about the covid pandemic...

    You people are so easy to predict..

    Ya'all's responses are positively Pavlovian....

    :D

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    4 city police hit with gunfire as George Floyd protest turns violent, shooting ongoing
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-st-louis-police-officers-shot-at-george-floyd-protests-still-taking-fire

    You people must be absolutely giddy with glee about all these cops being shot and attacked eh??

    This is your Democrat Party.. :eyeroll:

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    Trump cannót, therefore, order our United States by fucking God Army to crush protesters. Period.

    Once again, your ignorance is on display for all to see..

    The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law (10 U.S.C. §§ 251–255; prior to 2016, 10 U.S.C. §§ 331–335) that empowers the president of the United States to deploy military troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection and rebellion.

    You are so utterly stoopid about facts and reality, I am really impressed that you can remember to breathe....

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    But...where is #SickFuckMichale who pays CW well to get to post #TrumpanzeePropaganda on CW's blog. Michael, since you post here solely to (not convince) people but rather to slavishly worship Cheetogod, um, what the fuck Dude? Convince me, don't call me names

    I seem to recall a couple months ago, you were commenting here on how much you missed me and how you are hoping and praying that I am all right and expressing a desire for me to return...

    What IS it about Trump/America haters that they talk out BOTH sides of their ass???

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump/America haters war on cops..

    NYPD officer struck by vehicle in the Bronx in apparent hit-and-run, video shows
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/nypd-officer-struck-by-vehicle-in-the-bronx-in-apparent-hit-and-run-video-shows

    This is ya'all's Democrat Party today..

    Congrats... :eyeroll:

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    A shocking video posted on social media shows a New York City police officer being struck by a vehicle early Tuesday in what appears to be a deliberate hit-and-run.

    The video shows a dark-colored vehicle driving straight toward the officer and striking him, then shows the officer flying up against a nearby vehicle before landing in the street as both vehicles drive away.

    Several people, possibly other police officers, are seen rushing to the victim’s aid.

    Who could have POSSIBLY predicted that this war on cops by the Democrat Party would happen!??

    Oh... Wait....

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's rather ironic..

    Under President Trump's great leadership, George Floyd had a job and was employed, so he was staying out of trouble..

    With the Dumbocrat Party and their hysterical and nefarious over-correction of the economy based and hysteria and fear, Floyd lost his job and had to create counterfeit money to survive...

    Which led to his arrest, which led to his death...

    So, it's logical that Floyd's death is the complete and utter responsibility of the Dumbocrat Party...

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Congrats, people.. Your Democrat Party has found the PERFECT Agenda..

    THE DEMOCRAT PARTY'S WAR ON COPS...

    Mobs target police around the country; 4 shot in St. Louis, 1 in Vegas, Bronx hit-and-run caught on video
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/george-floyd-protests-rioters-police-shot-hit-and-run

    And ya'all HONESTLY believe that Democrats will prevail in Nov??? Really!!???

    :D That's so cute....

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    But...where is #SickFuckMichale who pays CW well to get to post

    Hay.. Don't hate me (or CW) because you are always wrong and I am always dead on ballz accurate when it comes to President Trump...

    Don't be a hater... That's beneath you...

  37. [37] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    My Voice-
    "Candidates who are not elected cannot effectively change business as usual."

    Not true.(see Eugene Debs, Bernie Sanders)

    But electing candidates that are doing business as usual by taking big money will not be electing candidates that will act on reform.

    So we need to make the specific demand that in order to earn our votes they must take action before the election by running small donor only campaigns.

    Withholding one's vote and lodging a protest vote for the specific purpose of demanding small donor only candidates does educate the populace, bring attention to a problem and lead/pressure elected officials to implement reform. (see Eugene Debs, Bernie Sanders)

    That is how democracy works.

    Sometimes it takes more than one election cycle to achieve the goal. (see 2018 elections- or was there no point in voting in 2018 because the Dems could not take over all branches of government in 2018?)

  38. [38] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Mtn Caddy-
    I am not telling people to not vote as a form of protest. I am telling people to register a vote for small donor only candidates by using a write in vote if there are no small donor candidates on their ballot to create and demonstrate demand for small donor candidates.

    Where do you get the 400 million advertising gap?

    Registered Dems make up around 25% of the 130 million voters. That's over 30 million citizens.

    One in ten of those Dems contributing 200 dollars is 600 million dollars. Another one in ten contributing 100 dollars is another 300 million dollars. Another one in ten contributing 50 dollars puts the total over 1 billion.

    So a 400 million dollar gap would not matter if Trump raised 1.5 billion.

    Just because it hasn't happened before does not mean it can't be done.

    Are you saying that if Biden made the small donor only commitment that 3 out of ten registered Dems would not step up and make these contributions?

    Are you saying that voters would not respond to such a commitment by Biden?

    Considering how much Bernie raised and how many votes he got with a watered down version of demanding small donor only candidates those outcomes seem to be going against current trends.

    Until we try it we don't know if it can work or not.

    At least it is possible to get from here to there and current trends show it could work.

    All you seem to be proposing is continuing to do what hasn't worked and the only result that has and will produced is (with a New England accent) "Ya' cahn't get thay're from heay're."

  39. [39] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    My Voice (13)-
    You are in the rabbit hole all on your own.

    I am offering citizens a way out of the rabbit hole.

    The "information" you claim I am impervious to is false information.

    When I provide information that counters your false information it is you that is impervious to reality.

  40. [40] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    "One choice makes you larger
    And one choice makes you small
    And the ones big money gives you
    don't do anything at all.."
    -White Rabbit parody

  41. [41] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    It's time for the "men" on the chessboard to stand up and tell the big money interests and politicians where to go.

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    Once again, we see the REAL face of the Democrat Party, AntiFa and Black Lives Matter..

    Cop shot in head in one of two police-involved shootings at protests in Vegas
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-police-officer-shot-head/

    It's funny how we don't see ANY condemnation from Trump/America haters..

    Either here in Weigantia or out in the real world..

    They are taking their cue from Odumbo..

    "The cops acted stupidly"
    -Barack Odumbo

  43. [43] 
    SF Bear wrote:

    How far will Mr. Trump go in this invade America nonsense. Today a number of state governors are refusing to allow his army to enter their states. This will grow as Mayors and other local authorities move to reject Trump's Army too. How far will this lunatic push this? Are we witnessing the beginning of a coup? Or will cooler heads somehow prevent this deranged moron from actually starting a new civil war?Will someone please give this president his meds before he gets us all killed.

  44. [44] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    This is what Obama really says about the protests.

    I miss having a president that can talk and write coherently...

    106,550 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    SF Bear,

    How far will Mr. Trump go in this invade America nonsense. Today a number of state governors are refusing to allow his army to enter their states. This will grow as Mayors and other local authorities move to reject Trump's Army too. How far will this lunatic push this? Are we witnessing the beginning of a coup? Or will cooler heads somehow prevent this deranged moron from actually starting a new civil war?Will someone please give this president his meds before he gets us all killed.

    Yes, you are witnessing the beginnings of a coup. Trump/America haters failed with their Russia Collusion delusion and then failed AGAIN with their faux impeachment coup..

    So, NOW Democrats are advocating killing cops....

    President Trump has every legal, moral and ethical right to bring in the US Military and crush the looters and coup plotters...

    The facts are clear and the American people are clearly on President Trump's side.. They don't want to see more cops attacked or killed..

    The Democrats WANT more cops attacked and killed..

    And, apparently, everyone here wants more cops attacked and killed as well...

  46. [46] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    MtnCaddy,

    Enough with your juvenile games.

    If you wish to use words to combat Michale, then use better words, words that are worthy of being read underneath the eloquent headlining pieces.

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    A number of state and local governments have failed to take necessary action to safeguard their residents. Innocent people have been savagely beaten like the young man in Dallas, Texas, who was left dying on the street or the woman in upstate New York, viciously attacked by dangerous thugs. Small business owners have seen the dreams utterly destroyed. New York’s finest have been hit in the face with bricks, brave nurses who have battled the virus are afraid to leave their homes. A police precinct has been overrun here in the nation’s Capitol, the Lincoln Memorial and the World War II Memorial have been vandalized. One of our most historic churches was set a blaze. A federal officer in California, an African American enforcement hero was shot and killed. These are not acts of peaceful protest, these are acts of domestic terror. The destruction of innocent life and the spilling of innocent blood is an offense to humanity and a crime against God.
    -President Donald Trump

    Democrats don't stand a chance in Nov...

    Democrats, Trump/America hater, rioters and looters..

    Your time is over.. The gloves are coming off...

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    If you wish to use words to combat Michale, then use better words, words that are worthy of being read underneath the eloquent headlining pieces.

    He can't.. He always loses when he tries to go shot for shot intellectually wise..

    So, he has to go down into the gutter... Ironically enough, he acts EXACTLY as he accuses President Trump of acting...

    Howz THAT for irony, eh?

  49. [49] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    The Democrats WANT more cops attacked and killed..

    White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence

    Are you sure it's not your guys?

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    These are not acts of peaceful protest. These are acts of domestic terror. The destruction of innocent life and the spilling of innocent blood is offense to humanity and a crime against god. America needs creation, not destruction. Cooperation, not contempt, security, not anarchy. Healing the hatred, justice, not chaos. This is our mission, and we will succeed 100%. We will succeed. Our country always wins. That is why I am taking immediate presidential action to stop the violence and restore security and safety in America. I am immobilizing all federal resources, civilian and military to stop the rioting and looting, to end the destruction and arson, and to protect the rights of law-abiding Americans, including your second amendment rights. Therefore, the following measures are going into effect immediately.
    First, we are entering the riots and lawlessness that has spread throughout our country. We will end it now. Today, I have strongly recommended to every governor to deploy the National Guard in sufficient numbers that we dominate the streets. Mayors and governors, both established and overwhelming law enforcement presence until the violence has been quelled. If the city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residence, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them.
    I am also taking swift and decisive action to protect our great capital, Washington, DC. What happened in the city last night was a total disgrace. As we speak, I am dispatching thousands and thousands of heavily armed soldiers, military personnel, and law enforcement officers to stop the rioting, looting, vandalism, assaults, and the wanton destruction of property. We are putting everybody on warning on a 7:00 curfew that will be strictly enforced. Those who threaten innocent life and property will be arrested, detained, and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I want the organizers of this terror to be on notice that you will face severe criminal penalties and lengthy sentences in jail. This includes Antifa and others who were leading instigators of this violence. One law and order, and that is what it is, one law.

    -President Trump

    No matter how ya'all want to spin it, that was a helluva speech by President Trump...

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    Reminds me of Harrison Ford's speech in AIR FORCE ONE

    I came here tonight to be congratulated. But today, when I visited the Red Cross camps, overwhelmed by the flood of refugees fleeing the horror of Kazakhstan, I realize I don't deserve to be congratulated. None of us do. The truth is we acted too late. Only when our own national security was threatened did we act. Radek's regime murdered over 200,000 men, women and children and we watched it on TV. We let it happen. People were being slaughtered for over a year and we issued economic sanctions and hid behind the rhetoric of diplomacy. How dare we? The dead remembered: real peace is not just the absence of conflict, it's the presence of justice. And tonight I come to you with a pledge to change America's policy. Never again will I allow our political self-interest to deter us from doing what we know to be morally right. Atrocity and terror are not political weapons, and to those who would use them, your day is over. We will never negotiate. We will no longer tolerate and we will no longer be afraid. It's your turn to be afraid.
    -Harrison Ford, AIR FORCE ONE

    Face reality people.. President Trump is going to win 4 more years as President...

    Your Trump/America hating Democrats don't stand a chance...

  52. [52] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:
  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh yea.. Forgot something..

    14 TRILLION in slave reparations!!

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Funny how no one here wants to discuss this bit of Dumbocrat lunacy.... :D

    "Gee... I wonder why that is!!!???"
    -Kevin Spacey, THE NEGOTIATOR

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    DISTURBING VIDEO: Looters run wild in New York as police officer is beaten: 'Fordham is on fire'
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/looters-run-wild-in-bronx-as-video-shows-nypd-officer-being-beaten-fordham-is-on-fire

    Today's Democrat Party.....

    NO CHANCE of winning in Nov...

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    South Philly gunstore owner guarding shop overnight shoots, kills armed looter: report
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-gunstore-owner-shoots-kills-armed-looter

    That's a good start..

    STEP #1 in dealing with looters..

    SHOOT THEM...

    Works for me...

  56. [56] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    You might read the Posse Comitatus Act Before heralding Insurrection Act of 1807 as they work in concert.

  57. [57] 
    Michale wrote:

    A 67-year-old South Philadelphia gun store owner shot and killed a man he said was looting his business for what he suspects is the second night in a row.

    Greg Isabella, who owns the Firing Line Inc, one of the oldest gun shops in the city, said he saw a group of looters on his surveillance video breaking a padlock on his gate using bolt cutters and descending on his shop in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

    The incident occurred just after 4 a.m. when Isabella then confronted the thieves, and one -- in a group of what he says consisted of 3 or 4 people-- pointed a gun at him, according to reports by Fox affiliate WTFX.

    Isabella fatally shot the gun-wielding robber using an AR-15 and the alleged thief died on the scene, reports say. The owner likely injured a second suspect in the shoulder. The rest of the thieves fled, but a local hospital informed police that a man was being treated for a gunshot wound to the shoulder, and police suspect he may have been involved in the botched heist.

    NOW we see why an American needs to own AR-15s.....

    DUH........

  58. [58] 
    Michale wrote:

    On Monday night, a confrontation between police and protesters trying to shut down a major highway turned aggressive, and the SWAT team was called in. Law enforcement fired tear gas, rubber bullets and bean bags at the crowd in an effort to disperse them and several people were arrested.

    Yep... Looters are going to be dealt with.. If Dumbocrats in state or city government can't handle it... President Trump will send in the Army...

    Anyone ever see THE SEIGE??

    We're gonna be living it.. :D Dead looters as far as the eye can see... :D

  59. [59] 
    Michale wrote:

    And yunno what's even better!!

    The Democrat Party's go-to group being declared a Domestic Terrorist Organization...

    "Sauce for the goose, Lieutenant"
    -Captain Spock

  60. [60] 
    Michale wrote:

    Those who claim that President Trump does not have the power to call in the US Military are morons.. As usual..

    What powers does the president have to use military to quell domestic unrest?

    Yet the prohibitions against using the military for domestic law enforcement have several exceptions. If President Trump were to call on them to help quell riots, he would likely do so under the Insurrection Act, which allows the president to call on the U.S. armed forces to assist in law enforcement in certain circumstances.

    Those situations include “any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy” that “hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State,” specifically where “any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law,” and the state’s own authorities “are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection.”

    The president can also use armed forces in the event of violence or an insurrection that “opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws,” or if a state calls on the president to help quell an insurrection against the state’s government.

    During his remarks Monday evening, Trump specifically said that use of the military would either be at the request of states to have the National Guard deployed, or in the event that cities or states refuse to take measures to protect their residents.

    “If a city or a state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them,” Trump said.

    As usual, Trump/America hating morons are wrong about the power that President Trump yields...

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC?? Yoooo hoooooo???

    Don't you want to talk about how President Trump can send in the military???

    Did you run away again!???

    Com'on.. Man up... Take yer lumps like a man...

  62. [62] 
    Michale wrote:

    Speaking of taking lumps..

    JM??? Yoooooo Hoooooooo??

    Where did you go??? Don't you want to talk about Breonna Taylor???

    You brought her up and now you just run away and hide..

    Com'on.. Man up and take your lumps...

  63. [63] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:
  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    What about you?? What was your point about the Aubrey case vis a vis cops??

  65. [65] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    106,732 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    Even with protests and violence, Trump's incompetence is still killing many more Americans.

  66. [66] 
    Michale wrote:

    Sheriff Judd extends curfew, warns rioters that residents are armed

    Judd ended his address by speaking on a possible threat they’ve seen referenced on social media that suggests riot activity may start trickling into residential neighborhoods.

    “I would tell them, if you value your life, you probably shouldn’t do that in Polk County,” Judd said. “Because the people of Polk County like guns, they have guns, I encourage them to own guns, and they’re going to be inside their homes tonight with their guns loaded. And if you try to break into their homes tonight and try to steal, to set fires, I’m highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with their guns.”
    https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/sheriff-judd-extends-polk-curfew-another-day-says-unlawful-rioting-will-get-you-locked-up/

    That's how we do things down in FL.. You come down here to loot, steal, murder or destroy??

    Plan on being killed...

    It's really THAT simple...

  67. [67] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Liz-
    Juvenile games is usually the only reason to combat Michale.

    The only thing false about the "glimmer" of my understanding is calling a powerful spotlight a glimmer.

    When you squint because the light is so bright that is why it appears to be a glimmer.

    Try opening your eyes and looking at what has been illuminated.

    Biden can raise over 1 billion dollars with just 3 of 10 registered Dems making small contributions (see comment 38).

    Do you have any words that can explain the reason he will not do this?

    Do you have any words that can explain why I or anyone should vote for him when he will not do this one simple thing that he could easily do?

    If you want to replace juvenile discourse with rational debate then set a positive example by engaging in this rational debate.

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    106,732 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    Even with protests and violence, Trump's incompetence is still killing many more Americans.

    Actually, those deaths are the fault of your Trump/America hating Dumbocrats... They are the ones who are insisting people go out and protest..

    Once again, it's DUMBOCRATS who are responsible for dead Americans..

    Killing cops is not enough for Dumbocrats.. Now they are advocating that Americans ignore social distancing and stay at home orders and go out and loot and destroy..

    No matter how you want to spin it, Blathy... It's you and your fellow Trump/America haters are the cause of all the death and destruction...

    These are the facts...

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    DH,

    Juvenile games is usually the only reason to combat Michale.

    But WHY do ya'all have to combat me at all??

    Because I am ALWAYS factually accurate with regards to President Trump and everyone else here is ALWAYS wrong..

    They want to bring down the King.. :D

  70. [70] 
    SF Bear wrote:

    Michale and others are missing the point. Federal troups have been used in the past frimarily to help with natural disasters but also to quell riots. i believe the last time they were used was in LA in the Rodney King riots at the REQUEST of the local authorities who were overwhelmed and needed help. I do not think they have ever been sent somewhere where they have been asked NOT TO come by the local authorities who believe their presence will only make things worse. Will Mr. trump try to force his way into cities where they are not wanted. Will those cities resist the entry of his army into their jurisdiction. Will this madman back down or will there be civil war?

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Donald Trump, not so long ago, took delight in ridiculing Joe Biden for (as he put it) "hiding in his basement." Now, however, the tables have turned and it is Trump who is cowering in the nether regions of White House, while Biden freely visits with protesters in Delaware.

    False equivalency...

    This country, ney this planet NEEDS President Trump and his leadership.. So, it stands to reason he should be protected..

    The world would be a better place without Biden.. At least women would be safer...

    Biden contributes nothing to this country but more strife and discord as we had under Odumbo..

    President Trump is the only hope we have of America surviving....

    So, like I said.. You really can't make a rational comparison...

  72. [72] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Michale-

    Still doing your sophomoric demented old man name calling routine?

    Take your meds dude...

  73. [73] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    106,732 Americans dead from corona virus and counting.

    Even with protests and violence Trump and the false alternative offered by the Dems in service of the big money interests is still killing many more Americans.

    The false alternative offered by the Dems are why Trump is in office so the Dems are also responsible for any corona virus deaths that could have been avoided.

    What good is voting blue when the Dems keep painting the roses red?

  74. [74] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    At the last regular WHO virtual press conference on COVID-19 there was a question from a journalist from India asking about finding the balance between the economy and health and the executive director of the health emergencies programme at the WHO, Dr. Michael Ryan, provided his usual comprehensive response. He talked about the responsibility of national governments and the role of the WHO:

    "It is exactly that question! How do you balance the needs of the economy and of society against the need to control this disease. And that certainly cannot be done from a place like Geneva.

    "That can only be done by national governments who are working locally to understand the local situation, understand the local context and absorb the global guidance and the global scientific consensus that's building.

    "And we've had many, many countries over the last number of weeks and months at our weekly briefings with all our member states and missions and it has been striking to me the success that countries have had and I've been trying to be honest to understand what's been the magical formula for success in response to this virus.

    "And, for me, what I've seen, beyond epidemiology and beyond the virus, is that countries that have taken real ownership of the problem, politically, and pulled in the maximum amount of information from outside and then adapted and driven a local response, with the communities on board, have done well.

    "This has not been about global knowledge just stopping the virus. There is an essential second step and that has been responsible open governments actively seeking that scientific information within the country and from outside and translating that into actions and into programs that communities understand and accept and support.

    "Where governments have taken that all of society, all of government approach; where they've been open to the global and local science; where they've been sensitive and empathic to local population needs, they have found that balance. But that balance and that point of balance cannot be set externally. That is, primarily, the responsibility of national government. That is what government is there for.

    "So, in that sense, WHO will continue to drive the gathering of global science, global knowledge, global epidemiology; continue to do our best to synthesize that into the best guidance we can; to work, through our country offices, with each government to try and find that balance.

    "But, ultimately that balance comes from a responsible government listening to science, listening to the population and balancing these very difficult questions in a way that people can look at and see that a transparent job is being done to protect them, the economy, their society. Not easy to achieve but I think governments who have done that seem to have had success.

    "And, we wish India every success in that. India is one of the largest countries in the world; a center of science and a center of public health. It did implement measures early and has a huge capacity to continue doing the surveillance and the community engagement that it has so much demonstrated in the past.

    "But, also, India has one of the densest populations in the world, has pockets of real poverty and under-privilege and we really do have to ensure that those populations are protected and that India remains ever vigilant moving forward as it takes slow steps towards fully opening its society."

  75. [75] 
    Michale wrote:

    Will Mr. trump try to force his way into cities where they are not wanted. Will those cities resist the entry of his army into their jurisdiction. Will this madman back down or will there be civil war?

    The Insurrection Act gives President Trump all the authority he needs..

    If State or City governments refuse to yield, they are on the wrong side of the law..

    President Trump will roll over them like a steam roller.. And rightly so...

    If those states want to secede from the union?? They won't be missed...

  76. [76] 
    Michale wrote:

    And so it begins..

    Military Helicopters Used to Disperse Protesters in Washington, D.C.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/military-helicopters-used-to-disperse-protesters-in-washington-dc/ar-BB14UWRi?li=BBnb7Kz

    On the one side, well armed and well trained Trump supporters and the combined might of the US Armed Forces and US Police Forces..

    On the other side, panty-waist morons and snowflakes who are afraid of guns.. :D

    Who could have POSSIBLY predicted it would come to this..

    Oh... wait... :D

  77. [77] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    The Insurrection Act gives President Trump all the authority he needs..

    And the Posse Comitatus Act takes most of it away...

  78. [78] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Why does anyone have to combat Michale at all?

    Because that's how things are done in the rabbit hole where inhabitants make themselves feel better about their delusions by pointing out the opposing delusion.

    It's easier than facing reality by engaging in debate with me.

  79. [79] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [38]

    Excellent, Brother Don! You made me carefully rethink my lack of confidence in what we both recognize is a fundamental cancer on our political system.

    I came up with this: yep, you are right. BUT, I'm too afraid of another 4 years of #PutinsBitch to risk "taking the plunge" with One Demand.

    Call me a pussy if you will. Joe Biden was, frankly, about the last Democratic candidate on my list (Hillary redux?) so it's not like I'm "all in on Joe."

    I simply think that, given another 4 years, Cheetogod would blow the whole fuckíng planet up rather than get booted out of office

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:

    Looters clash with protesters as another night of chaos erupts in NY
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/nyc-looters-clash-with-protesters-as-another-night-of-chaos-erupts/

    This is what happens under Democrat (so called) leadership...

    It's what happens when a city government kowtows to looters and terrorists...

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    I simply think that, given another 4 years, Cheetogod would blow the whole fuckíng planet up rather than get booted out of office

    No.. You didn't "think"... Because if you had actually had a real thought, you would realize that you Trump/America hating morons said the EXACT same thing 4 years ago..

    And you were WRONG.. WRONG... WRONG...

    Just like you are WRONG when you claim President Trump doesn't have the authority to use the US Military on protesters/looters...

    You have ALWAYS been wrong MC...

    About everything...

    And you simply CAN'T win..

    "You can't win! I have god on my side!!!"
    -Max Von Sydow, NEEDFUL THINGS

    :D

  82. [82] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    So be advised, Brother Don (or, Comrade Don - would it give #SickFuckMichale a conniption fit if we used "Fellow Traveler" nomenclature?) ... that I want what YOU want, K?

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    DH,

    Why does anyone have to combat Michale at all?

    Because they cannot STAND the fact that, when it comes to President Trump, I am 1000% factually accurate ALL the time...

    THAT is why the have to combat me... If they honestly believed I was wrong or just spewing BS, they would ignore me..

    But they don't.. They CAN'T... Blathy is here every day hanging on my every word...

    They all are simply PWNED.... :D

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hundreds of looters stormed Midtown Manhattan for a second night in a row Monday, brazenly bashing through the windows of high-end stores and making off with stolen goods as police attempted to control the chaos.

    The roving gangs began their spree of rampage after a demonstration over George Floyd’s death earlier in the evening, at times clashing with peaceful protesters who desperately attempted to stop the looting and destruction.

    “It’s systemic, one person breaks the glass with something,” a witness said about the looting. “Someone else comes up on a bike and robs the store, it’s systemic, you can see.”

    In advance of an 11 p.m. curfew, looters breached a Best Buy, Nike Flatiron, Aldo, Microsoft, Michael Kors and the Nintendo store in Rockefeller Center.

    Impotent Democrat "leadership" at it's finest.. We send in the Army and Marines and let them start cracking heads..

    Shoot one.. Word will spread...

    It's that simple...

  85. [85] 
    SF Bear wrote:

    It appears Michale welcomes the prospect of a civil war with the attendant death and destruction that will come. All to stroke the ego of a maniac. There is no need for the army to intervene in these riots as they will burn out and peace will be restored using the least amount of violence possible. Mr. Trump and company want to maximize the violence and destruction, and for what? Just so he can appear to be a tough guy? Who in their right mind welcomes the idea of tanks in the streets of America?

  86. [86] 
    Michale wrote:

    It appears Michale welcomes the prospect of a civil war with the attendant death and destruction that will come.

    Predicting it is not the same thing as wanting it..

    Having said that, yea.. I am happy to see Trump/America hating morons get what's coming to them..

    There is no need for the army to intervene in these riots as they will burn out and peace will be restored using the least amount of violence possible.

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    You HONESTLY believe that the looters and cop killers will TIRE of what they are doing and quit on their own...

    That has got to be ***THE STUPIDEST*** claim here in Weigantia I have seen in my 16 years of commenting here..

    You claim they will tire of all the free stuff they are getting and tire of killing cops all over the place..

    Tell me, what do you base that UTTERLY MORONIC claim on??

    Mr. Trump and company want to maximize the violence and destruction, and for what?

    You mean, like when Odumbo gave shutdown orders to "make it hurt"... You mean like that...

    Who in their right mind welcomes the idea of tanks in the streets of America?

    If it clears the streets of scumbag looters and cop killers (Yunno.. YOUR kind of people) EVERY patriotic American welcomes the US ARMY and the US MARINE CORP onto the streets of American..

    It's YOU and your fellow Trump/America hating morons that made it necessary..

    Never forget that...

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    There is no need for the army to intervene in these riots as they will burn out and peace will be restored

    For utter ignorance and stoopidity, THAT little diddy is right up there with "14 TRILLION DOLLARS IN SLAVE REPARATIONS"

    What PLANET do you Trump/America hating morons live on???

  88. [88] 
    Michale wrote:

    Cuomo slams de Blasio handling of riots, claims he has power to ‘displace’ mayor but not ‘at that point’
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/cuomo-de-blasio-riot

    Blue vs Blue!! :D

    Love it!!!!!

    The Democrat Party is falling apart!!! :D

  89. [89] 
    Michale wrote:

    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday slammed Bill de Blasio's handling of riots in his city, calling it a "disgrace" and saying he has the power to "displace" the mayor -- though doesn't want to at this point.

    "The NYPD, the mayor did not do their job last night," Cuomo said of New York City's mayor. "It was a disgrace."

    He said the mayor "underestimates" the scope of the problem, suggesting he needs to deploy more police.

    In an extraordinary statement, he went on to say his "option is to displace the mayor ... bring in the National Guard" and essentially "take over."

    However, he said, "I don't think we're at that point."

    He added, "That would be such a chaotic situation in the midst of an already chaotic situation. I don’t think that makes any sense."

    De Blasio earlier Tuesday announced that the city’s curfew will be extended through the end of the week following yet another night of looting, destruction and “vicious attacks on police officers.”

    Like the McDonalds jingle....

    I'm lovin' it!!!

    :D

  90. [90] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Liz,

    If you wish to use words to combat Michale, then use better words, words that are worthy of being read underneath the eloquent headlining pieces.

    He can't.. He always loses when he tries to go shot for shot intellectually wise..

    So, he has to go down into the gutter... Ironically enough, he acts EXACTLY as he accuses President Trump of acting...

    Howz THAT for irony, eh?

    K, Elizabeth, you are correct as usual. It's just too much fun to bait the Rooskie Troll.

  91. [91] 
    Michale wrote:

    He can't.. He always loses when he tries to go shot for shot intellectually wise..

    You mean, like you were wrong when you claimed that President Trump can't call out the US Military...

    Face the facts, sunshine.. You are PWNED every day in here.. Because you NEVER have any facts...

    Ironically enough, he acts EXACTLY as he accuses President Trump of acting...

    You realize what a moronic claim that is, right???

    Naw, you probably don't..

    But hay.. I accept your concession that you were wrong and I was dead on ballz accurate regarding President Trump has the authority to call out the US Military.. :D

  92. [92] 
    Michale wrote:

    And it's funny in a sad and pathetic way..

    I haven't heard a SINGLE person here in Weigantia (sans yours truly) who have condemned the cop killings and the assaults on police officers..

    Thereby proving that (NEN) every one here hates cops..

    Typical Dumbocrat bigotry..

  93. [93] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    This isn't very interesting.

  94. [94] 
    Michale wrote:

    He can't.. He always loses when he tries to go shot for shot intellectually wise..

    And yet, it is YOU who is afraid to make a wager..

    Why are you scared, MC???

    If I am "ALWAYS" wrong and I "ALWAYS" lose as you claim, then you shouldn't be afraid of making a wager..

    And yet, you are...

    So, obviously you are full of shit when you claim I am always wrong, that I always lose...

    "Simple logic"
    -Admiral James T Kirk

    :D

  95. [95] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    K, Elizabeth, you are correct as usual. It's just too much fun to bait the Rooskie Troll.

    So, you concede you are just trolling...

    I accept your concession..

  96. [96] 
    Michale wrote:

    This isn't very interesting.

    Start up a topic that interests you..

    The WHO and the Covid Pandemic is, courtesy of the Democrat Party, old news and not worth discussing..

    Do you want to discuss how no one here has condemned the cop killings at the hands of the Democrat Party's militant wing???

    Maybe discuss why Floyd's death wasn't murder as many people claim.. What with the official autopsy and all...

    Maybe we could discuss SPACE FORCE.. Wasn't as good as I thought...

    The movie TENET??? Didn't get a chance to watch it. Got a bad copy... :(

    There is a whole world out there we can discuss..

    Pick something..

    "Her hair, her eyes, her ears.. Pick a feature!!!"
    -Genie, ALADDIN

    :D

  97. [97] 
    Michale wrote:

    Here's a good topic..

    Deroy Murdock says George Floyd's story becoming 'second fiddle' to looting and rioting
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/deroy-murdock-george-floyd-story-looting

    How Democrats always take a protest and turn it into an orgy of looting and burning and destroying and cop-killing....

    Why does this ALWAYS happen with the Democrat Party???

  98. [98] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    BTW, my Good Elizabeth, I grew up across the river from Windsor and most of my family tree resides in Canada. I've long loved Canada and the (Christ-like) "politeness" of your country. First place I'd move to if wannabe dictator Trump wins another term in office. Plus, your beer is better than the Budweiser swill they sell in The States and your icecream is vastly superior to what passes for icecream in America.

    So there. Thanks for reminding me of the better self that I should aspire to.

    But he's still #SickFuckMichale.

  99. [99] 
    Michale wrote:

    "In the name of George Floyd, Minneapolis rioters have done a huge injustice to George Floyd."

    "Floyd, 46, is dead. A widely viewed video confirms that the unarmed black man was killed after white police officer Derek Chauvin, 44, arrested him for allegedly passing a counterfeit $20 bill, handcuffed him, pinned him to the asphalt, and then planted his knee on Floyd’s neck," he wrote.

    Murdock said that $2.4 million worth of watches were stolen from a Rolex shop in NYC and the “anti-fascist brigade” is deeply involved in the rioting. Murdock noted that a War World II memorial was defaced even though the monument represents “anti-fascism” because of the United States' fight against Nazi Germany.

    “Instead, George Floyd and his story are playing basically second fiddle or have been completely blown out of the news because we’re talking about destroyed shops, stores that won’t reopen, CVS stores, and other chain stores are going to remain closed for some time.”

    Democrats could screw up an iron football!!

    These protests are not about Floyd any more.. They are about stealing and looting and burning and destroying..

    ANYONE who thinks that the looters and cop killers will simply tire of these acts and go home is totally and utterly delusional and living in a fantasy world.

    But hay.. Let's ask.. What do you do about the burning and the looting and the stealing and the cop killing UNTIL they get "tired" and quit on their own??

    Did ya think of THAT??

    I am guessing.. NOT...

  100. [100] 
    Michale wrote:

    But he's still #SickFuckMichale

    Yer only saying that because you are always wrong..

    Like you were when you claimed that President Trump doesn't have the authority to call out the US Military..

    I get it, MC.. I really do.. You get pounded on daily and are ALWAYS wrong about EVERYTHING you spew... So it's understandable that you lash out like a pouting 5 yr old..

    I get it.. I forgive you.. :D

  101. [101] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    It's not the subject matter that is the problem or, ah, not interesting.

    It's the childish behavior that so many here seem content to wallow in.

    As the founding member here, Michale, you deserve some modicum of respect. But, continuing in the vein of your hallmark dismissiveness when engaging with us, does not bode well for the future of this blog.

  102. [102] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's the childish behavior that so many here seem content to wallow in.

    Yea, I agree.. It was so much better in Weigantia in the Bush years.. Yea, I know, I know.. I am part of the problem...

    But, when in Rome...

    As the founding member here, Michale, you deserve some modicum of respect. But, continuing in the vein of your hallmark dismissiveness when engaging with us, does not bode well for the future of this

    Perhaps if that modicum of respect that I have earned was shown, I wouldn't be so dismissive of those who wallow in the gutter..

    It takes 2 (or more) to tango.. While I readily acknowledge my responsibility for how Weigantia is (and you'll note I am the only one that does so) it's patently obvious that I am only PART of the problem.. And a small part at that, considering how many represent the other parts of the problem..

    But we have the blog we have, not the blog we wish we would have...

  103. [103] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Of course, you are only part of the problem. But, only you can fix that part of the problem.

    I'm a pretty patient gal. Ahem. So, I'll keep waiting for the sunny day when you'll finally see it my way. :)

  104. [104] 
    John M wrote:

    [62] Michale wrote:

    "Speaking of taking lumps..

    JM??? Yoooooo Hoooooooo??

    Where did you go??? Don't you want to talk about Breonna Taylor???

    You brought her up and now you just run away and hide..

    Com'on.. Man up and take your lumps..."

    Yer so cute Michale!

    1) First, to think that I ran away or that you WON anything! *LAUGHS* or should I say: ROFL!

    2) Some of us do have better things to do than to respond to every asinine or insipidly stupid bigoted post. Like a job in the real world. Yes, some of us actually have to WORK ON SUNDAY.

    3) I agree with Bashi. Take your meds dude and chill out!

    4) When there is something WORTH responding to and I have something to say, rest assured I will do it!

    Also, I just want to give a shout out to both ListenWhenYouHear and Kick for their well written, thought provoking, posts on the previous thread. Thank you. Now those are reasoned comments to provoke civil discussion for a blog!

  105. [105] 
    John M wrote:

    By the way, I have had some limited self defense training, though it was years ago. There are some totally safe non lethal holds you can use on someone to subdue and totally take control of them. There are about 8? Pressure point on the human body. Forgive me it has been years, and I don't remember all of them anymore.

    One is directly under your nose on your upper lip. This is best tried with a willing friend. Just put your arm around them from behind, and using one finger only, Press down hard on that spot with your finger and hold it there. If done correctly, You will find that their arms and legs go limp like a puppet on a string and they will flail around helplessly, unable to make a fist, get away, etc. totally under your control. You can do anything with them and they won't be able to lift a finger to stop you. Pretty neat huh?

    Just though it would be some interesting FYI

  106. [106] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Oye #SickFuckMichale, yes I did miss you. But I did not "pray for your recovery."

    I checked up on it and My Dear Master SATAN doesn't really accept prayers. Just saying

  107. [107] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Repugs = Christofacists

    Dems = Satan Worshippers, right #SFM?

  108. [108] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC

    It's funny how you decry name-calling but then indulge in it so plentifully...

    Love how you wallow in yer hypocrisy... :D

  109. [109] 
    Michale wrote:

    JM,

    So does that mean you DON'T wank to talk about Breonna Taylor???

    Why bring her up if yer afraid to talk about her??

  110. [110] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    BTW I do looove this comments section, even with annoying Don with his "... Get Real" spiel. As for #SickFuckMichael I'm starting to once again suspect that he's a Russian Algorithm. Don't laugh - Rooskies have oft ruled the Chess world, so I cannot rule out the possibility that "Mikhail" is an IRA bot.

  111. [111] 
    Michale wrote:

    . As for #SickFuckMichael I'm starting to once again suspect that he's a Russian Algorithm. Don't laugh - Rooskies have oft ruled the Chess world, so I cannot rule out the possibility that "Mikhail" is an IRA bot.

    Son, I have been here the entire time that chrisweigant.com existed..

    Who do you think came up with the name Weigantia??

    Yer really a headcase with your claims...

    As usual, ya have absolutely NO FACTS to support your BS...

    That's all yer good for here.. Spewing BS....

  112. [112] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    What about you?? What was your point about the Aubrey case vis a vis cops??

    my point is that it's not right to compare cases of police enforcing the law as they've been trained to do and citizen attempts to police in ways they haven't been trained.

    JL

  113. [113] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    21

    Trump stands there, no smile, holding the Bible in a way that tells everyone the Bible has no true meaning to him.

    I know, right!? Can you imagine the Righties if President Obama had stood in the Rose Garden and made the exact same speech telling the peaceful protesters that he was "their ally" while at the same having the police carrying out his orders to violate the constitutional rights of the people to peacefully protest? All for the purpose of him staging a photo op where he could hold a Bible aloft BUT IT WAS UPSIDE DOWN. OMG! The Righties heads would explode in unison. The righty conspiracy theory morons like the gullible QAnon dipshits would go into overdrive and swear Obama was the Antichrist and they had the pictures to prove it!

    But since it was President Reality TV Show Con Artist Opportunist who ordered the teargassing of the peaceful assembly and used a house of worship for a photo op and the Bible as a prop, those gullible morons will fall for that con artist's bullshit and drop to their knees to the baffled king composing Hallelujah! I can't stop laughing at their sheer gullibility.

    Then again, it was such an obvious con job of a gaslighting opportunist using the Holy Word of God as a political prop for his own personal gain that maybe some good Christians will finally wise up and "see the light" that this charlatan doesn't give two shits about what they value above all. If anyone is okay with that pathological lying bastard hijacking your faith for his personal/political gain, then now would be a good time to start questioning your beliefs because -- far from being a believer -- you just might be a grifter.

    I hope we start seeing that photo hung in church offices all across America!

    *laughs*

    I’m sure Trump sells them on his website...next to the soft core photos from the First Lady’s time doing porn.

    And if you act now, your King Trump Version of the Holy Word will come with this nice set of prayer cards featuring the "art" of Melania... yes, "art"... it's not "pornography" if it's Republican sin. If you purchase two sets, we'll throw in these beautiful keepsake photos of Trump and the Porn Star... it's not "adultery" if your wife just had a baby.

  114. [114] 
    SF Bear wrote:

    The relevant section for the Insurrection Act is: “whenever there is an insurrection in any state against its government, the President may, upon the request of its legislature or its governor,” So that pretty much rules out his sending troops into a place where they are not wanted. Once again he is all hat and no cow.

  115. [115] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    22

    So, who to believe.. The guy who got paid off by the family??

    Or the professional and official Medical Examiner..

    Doesn't matter which one you believe. They both contain a finding of homicide.

    Gee, that's a tough call to make..

    It's still homicide no matter which one you choose.

    As an aside.. I find it hilarious that Stig still hangs on my every word! :D

    I find it hilarious that your so-called "LEO expertise" *shakes head* called it wrong again and that you seem to believe that a commenter pointing out your obvious ignorance is equivalent to "hanging on your every word" when they're actually suggesting you might want to retract your ignorant and incorrect words.

    So to recap: Your self-proclaimed "expertise" just got bitch slapped by the "REAL Medical Examiner" (your term). The commenter pointing that out isn't hanging on your every word, he is simply suggesting you correct your obvious ignorant words because they are, in fact, not the facts you claimed them to be.

  116. [116] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    my point is that it's not right to compare cases of police enforcing the law as they've been trained to do and citizen attempts to police in ways they haven't been trained.

    OK.. Agreed...

    Gee, that was easy... :D

    Were it not all discussions here in Weigantia were that easy.. :D

  117. [117] 
    Michale wrote:

    North Carolina governor rejects GOP's demand for full-fledged convention

    Trump and Republicans want a 50,000-person event.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/02/north-carolina-governor-rejects-gops-demand-for-full-fledged-convention-296566

    Hypocrite Democrat doesn't mind protesters and looters and cop killing scumbags...

    But a GOP Convention??? Yea, Dumbocrat will flush those millions and millions of dollars down the drain...

    'S OK... Florida will be happy to step up and hold the convention.. Great for the FL economy and show Dumbocrats what real balls are... :D

  118. [118] 
    Michale wrote:

    Cooper's latest letter is sure to disappoint national Republicans again. “As much as we want the conditions surrounding COVID-19 to be favorable enough for you to hold the Convention you describe in late August, it is very unlikely,” Cooper wrote. “Neither public health officials nor I will risk the health and safety of North Carolinians by providing the guarantee you seek.”

    In response, North Carolina Republicans called Cooper a "hypocrite," saying his participation in protests over the weekend runs counter to the state's health and safety precautions that necessitate a scaled-back convention.

    "Every day it is becoming clearer that Roy Cooper is putting politics ahead of results," said North Carolina GOP spokesman Tim Wigginton in a statement. "We deserve to know why Cooper gives free reign to crowds gathered to riot, but refuses to let citizens peacefully and safely renominate the president."

    Cooper gives cop killers free reign, but draws the line at patriotic Americans..

    What an asshole...

  119. [119] 
    Michale wrote:

    Welp, it's that time again...

    May be on again in the morning before my surgery.. May be not.. :D

    Ya'all kiddies have fun in my absence.. :D

  120. [120] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    23

    So, you are saying that are host is "paid off" by me so I can post here??

    That's pretty rude to come into a man's "home" and start throwing accusations of bribery at him...

    You're confusing an accusation of "pay-to-play" with being accused of "bribery"... two totally different things. I wouldn't think I would have to explain that to someone who keeps claiming their "LEO expertise," but here we are again.

    Can you explain this hypocrisy, dumb ass???

    The so-called "law enforcement officer" needs "hypocrisy" explained to him so I'll tell him everything he needs to know: People are hypocrites.

  121. [121] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    26

    So, the 2nd US Civil War has begun..

    Patriotic Americans who are well armed and well trained...

    VS

    Punk-assed Trump/America hating Democrats who are scared of guns...

    Gee... I wonder who will win.... :D

    Stop promoting violence on this forum.

  122. [122] 
    Kick wrote:

    Stop promoting violence on this forum.

  123. [123] 
    Kick wrote:

    Stop promoting violence on this forum..

  124. [124] 
    Kick wrote:

    Stop promoting violence on this forum...

  125. [125] 
    Kick wrote:

    Stop promoting violence on this forum.....

  126. [126] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    New column up soon, thank the Gods.

  127. [127] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    46

    Enough with your juvenile games.

    If you wish to use words to combat Michale, then use better words, words that are worthy of being read underneath the eloquent headlining pieces.

    This is the point where Paula would step in and tell you that calling out other posters while excusing Mike is indicative of your standard function here.

    If commenters are giving back the exact words they're getting, you might want to direct your standard board policing in your friend's direction... or just refrain from doing it altogether if you suck at it. :)

  128. [128] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    I happened to hear presumptive President Biden's speech today, I for one was impressed. It's not hard to be impressed when you consider the alternative, but Biden came off as sincere and heartwarming. I'm convinced he's going to easily mop up the moderate vote and indeed pull some GOP voters out of their Faustian malaise. Cracks are beginning to appear, even if subtly so, in Trump's once-solid support in Washington. Once his loyal lapdog, even Sen. Graham saw no benefit to the Bible-toting Trump fiasco photo op...

    I must admit, I don't quite get any White House strategy that includes portraying Trump as a man of religion, he obviously isn't, and religious sympathy can't be faked to the devout, they know a Monday morning penitent when they see one. I think Trump's only redeeming quality is his atheism, he disappoints even in this, as he tries and fails to play to the religious sentiment of whomever he thinks can deliver him into another four years.

    CW, when you said "hunkered down", the word "Bunkered" would have served you better and has a little more 'pizzaz'...

    LL&P

  129. [129] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Good luck in your surgery, Michale, having been under the knife earlier this year, I know the anxiety attached to any surgical procedure.

    I'm not sure whether you mentioned what surgery you having, as I've long since given up reading all your posts/spam, it could well have been in there somewhere amongst the drivel, dross and all around bull shit.

    I'd send flowers, but I won't. I'd pray for you, but I don't.

    LL&P

  130. [130] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    JTC,

    I really appreciate that comment. It is always a good day when someone begins to realize who Senator Biden is. :)

  131. [131] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @liz,

    presumably you meant 127, not 128.

    although i agree that biden comes off as sympathetic, personally i think it's very dangerous to even joke about him being the "presumptive president." the inability of lefties to understand trump's appeal to a broad righty coalition, and their underestimation of its strength, is how he ended up winning the first time.

    JL

  132. [132] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    be safe, heal well, and... well, i had something slightly snarky to say but i think it can wait until your rib cage is fixed.

    JL

  133. [133] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    49

    White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence

    Are you sure it's not your guys?

    White supremacists posing as "antifa" and committing illegal acts in order to divide and conquer has been going on for quite awhile now, and it's long overdue that it's being publicized.

    I'm sure I don't have to tell you, but "white supremacists"... just the David Duke types and the KKK all cleaned up... fascists carrying their flaming Tiki torches, bearing their swastikas and chanting their hatred against Jews and hatred against a multitude of "others" not white. Same old KKK by another name but still carrying their torches and their hatred, and the GOP has owned the KKK bastards for over half a century now since the Democratic Party kicked them out and the GOP welcomed the fascist Nazi-loving bastards with open arms.

    The good news is that the GOP is slowly coming around, and Steve King is the living proof of it.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/iowa-rep-steve-king-s-many-outrageous-comments-may-finally-n1217441

    This only ends one way, and Republicans know that.

  134. [134] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Kick,

    And if you act now, your King Trump Version of the Holy Word will come with this nice set of prayer cards featuring the "art" of Melania... yes, "art"... it's not "pornography" if it's Republican sin.

    Oh I completely forgot about that!

    “That film was a disgusting perversion from the Pits of Satan, himself. I couldn’t help but think of how this was the most immoral thing that I have ever laid my eyes on....all 8 times that I viewed it!”

    And what was with him marching all alone to the church... keeping about 10 yards in front of the rest of his staff... not waving to or even really looking at any of the public/law enforcement on either side of him? Usually, Presidents walk when they want to interact with the public —Trump just wanted it to look like he was leading a parade without his fat ass having to walk THAT far!

  135. [135] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    But, I wasn't joking, Joshua. For me, he doesn't "come off" as being sympathetic and empathetic, he truly is all of that and so much more.

  136. [136] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    Did I miss something about Michale's rib cage?

  137. [137] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    look at the time stamp … of course, I meant 127

  138. [138] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michael,

    Space Force was such a disappointment! It felt much more like a documentary on how to step on and ruin jokes than a comedy. Majorly disappointed...especially considering how many genuinely funny people are in its cast!

    Good luck with your surgery! On the bright side, at least you now know that you can watch Space Force without the laughter causing your ribs to hurt.

  139. [139] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    the inability of lefties to understand trump's appeal to a broad righty coalition, and their underestimation of its strength, is how he ended up winning the first time.

    As you know, I'm not a leftie. And, I fully understand the pull Trump has on too many Americans, so much so that I fear he will be re-elected.

  140. [140] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    FBI Asks for Evidence of Individuals Inciting Violence During Protests, People Respond With Videos of Police Violence [newsweek.com]

    Way too much blatant police brutality. Though it is interesting that a huge amount of it is being filmed. Everyone has a cell phone and gopros and other body attached cameras are a relatively mature, inexpensive technology. Now if the FBI would only follow up on what it has asked for...

    And much like the pandemic response, Trump also dismantled all of Obama's oversight over police, which has definitely not helped.

    107,506 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  141. [141] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Does anyone here think that it is possible that the murder of George Floyd is a turning point of an unprecedented nature and that America may finally come to terms with its past and present with respect to the injustices that its African American citizens have been dealing with for hundreds of years?

    I pray that it is exactly that.

  142. [142] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    98

    So there. Thanks for reminding me of the better self that I should aspire to.

    But he's still #SickFuckMichale.

    However, you being called out by Elizabeth for Mike's own handiwork is par for the course around here. Mike is the commenter who actually introduced that #SF hashtag language to this forum in a myriad number of posts so he's definitely the one who owns it and should have his name attached forever to it... which you conveniently took care of that.

    Good thinking there, MtnCaddy. :)

  143. [143] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    101

    As the founding member here, Michale, you deserve some modicum of respect.

    No, he doesn't deserve any more respect that any other commenter on this board, and neither do you as he has incorrectly claimed on multiple occasions. It's really touching and heartwarming that you two have got it all worked out that y'all are entitled to some superior modicum of respect than anyone other commenter...
    BUT <--- big but... however, you are not.

    I'm sorry *not sorry* to be the bearer of bad news for y'all, but every commenter on this board deserves the same modicum of respect that you two have always claimed for each other, and it's about time you both figured that out.

    I have spoken.

  144. [144] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    102

    But we have the blog we have, not the blog we wish we would have...

    Wrong. You have exactly the comments you want or you wouldn't otherwise be so repetitive ad nauseam with your cut-and-paste-type bullshit that promotes violence on this forum rather than discussing political issues.

    You deserve no respect whatsoever -- nor would anyone --for breaking the damn rules of this blog regarding the promotion of violence over and over like a moron stuck on stupid. You're calling for respect for the author of the blog? Then follow his effing rules about not promoting violence on this forum.

    I have spoken.

  145. [145] 
    Kick wrote:

    John M
    104

    Also, I just want to give a shout out to both ListenWhenYouHear and Kick for their well written, thought provoking, posts on the previous thread. Thank you. Now those are reasoned comments to provoke civil discussion for a blog!

    Oh, they can both eff right off too, John!

    Of course, I tease. Those two are definitely among some of my favorite post writers, but I confess Russ is my favorite thinker and provoker. :)

  146. [146] 
    Kick wrote:

    John M
    105

    There are some totally safe non lethal holds you can use on someone to subdue and totally take control of them. There are about 8? Pressure point on the human body.

    Close enough for government work. :)

    Forgive me it has been years, and I don't remember all of them anymore.

    I do... and let's show some love for the ones on the inside of the body.

    One is directly under your nose on your upper lip. This is best tried with a willing friend.

    Just make sure it's a "willing friend" you're willing to lose... I mean, if you're good at it.

    Just put your arm around them from behind, and using one finger only, Press down hard on that spot with your finger and hold it there. If done correctly, You will find that their arms and legs go limp like a puppet on a string and they will flail around helplessly, unable to make a fist, get away, etc. totally under your control. You can do anything with them and they won't be able to lift a finger to stop you. Pretty neat huh?

    *laughs*
    Neat.

    Just though it would be some interesting FYI

    It was. :)

  147. [147] 
    Kick wrote:

    SF Bear
    114

    The relevant section for the Insurrection Act is: “whenever there is an insurrection in any state against its government, the President may, upon the request of its legislature or its governor,” So that pretty much rules out his sending troops into a place where they are not wanted.

    Exactly correct. And at the present time, I have it on good authority that *checks notes* zero (0) of the representatives of our fifty (50) United States have requested it; however, Washington, DC is requesting statehood.

    Once again he is all hat and no cow.

    It's "all hat and no cattle."

    Yes, sir, correct, and he couldn't pour piss out of a boot with a hole in the toe and the directions on the heel.

  148. [148] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    131

    be safe, heal well, and...

    It sounds like the Dread Pirate Roberts. ;)

  149. [149] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    133

    And what was with him marching all alone to the church... keeping about 10 yards in front of the rest of his staff... not waving to or even really looking at any of the public/law enforcement on either side of him?

    Maybe he smelled like he wanted to be left alone. *laughs*

    Usually, Presidents walk when they want to interact with the public —Trump just wanted it to look like he was leading a parade without his fat ass having to walk THAT far!

    I know, right!? And he always walks like he's about to fall forward flat on his face. It is but one of the many signs he possesses that are consistent with a diagnosis of frontotemporal dementia.

  150. [150] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    John M

    Also, I just want to give a shout out to both ListenWhenYouHear and Kick for their well written, thought provoking, posts on the previous thread. Thank you. Now those are reasoned comments to provoke civil discussion for a blog!

    I am humbled by your words...thank you! As someone who worked with law enforcement (E911 operator and as an EMT) and has been married to a police officer for the over 15 yrs., it is my wish to help educate people on police procedures and why they sometimes do the things that they do that seem weird. Again, I appreciate the kind words.

    -Russ

  151. [151] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Kick,

    Oh, they can both eff right off too, John!.

    Hey! I resemble that comment!

    Of course, I tease. Those two are definitely among some of my favorite post writers, but I confess Russ is my favorite thinker and provoker. :)

    And you know that the love goes right back at ya! I was discussing a conversation we had had recently and Devon wanted me to clarify if you were “that woman that you are in love with?”

    I answered, “Yup! The one and only!” [Big grin!]

  152. [152] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @kick[147],

    good work. sleep well. i'll most likely kill you in the morning.

    JL

  153. [153] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    150

    Hey! I resemble that comment!

    Of course we both do, dear. ;)

    And you know that the love goes right back at ya!

    Yes, of course, darling because you and me are like peas and carrots. No, wait, I don't want to be carrots, and I know you don't want to be carrots. Okay, then. You and me are like peas... just peas... with none of those little onions mixed in because bleh.

    I was discussing a conversation we had had recently and Devon wanted me to clarify if you were “that woman that you are in love with?”

    *laughs* Same thing with me. I even got asked how y'all are doing in Washington at "COVID ground zero."

    I answered, “Yup! The one and only!” [Big grin!]

    That woman! Heh. You told him I love him too, though, right!?
    We are seriously like peas. :)

  154. [154] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    151

    good work. sleep well. i'll most likely kill you in the morning.

    No one would surrender to the Dread Pirate Westley. ;)

  155. [155] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Just read that they are now charging all four officers for Floyd’s death. It appears that one of the officer’s restraining his body, Lane, had twice suggested rolling Floyd on his side; but they did not do that. It would explain the others now facing Murder 3 and Chauvin having his charge bumped up to Murder 2. I do not think these charges will stick; especially when the officers are called to describe what the SOP’s say are the proper steps in dealing with a combative person on drugs who is resisting arrest.

    I was glad that at least one officer had the mindset to question whether Floyd should be rolled on his side. It will be interesting to learn the reason that they chose not to do that.

  156. [156] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    OMG! Check this out! I think I now know why Trump wanted that photo-op with him not smiling and awkwardly holding a Bible in his hand. It was an homage to a photo of George Floyd that ChristianityToday used in an article about him.

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/may/george-floyd-ministry-houston-third-ward-church.html

    That HAS to be it! Trump held that Bible the same exact way that Floyd does in this photo. Floyd looks like he’s responding to someone off camera asking, “Does anyone have a Bible I could borrow?” and doesn’t seem to realize the photo was being taken.

    Trump’s holding of the Bible seemed so unnatural that I thought maybe the Bible was burning his skin. It just looked odd. But now I see it was Trump trying “to be black like George.” Trump thinks that is how blacks hold Bibles in photos!!!

    BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!

    Trump, having no concept of how normal people act, had to have seen this and believed that THIS was how black men pose with Bibles for the camera! I have been laughing so hard at this... I no longer care whether my theory is proven true....in my mind, this is what happened and no one can tell me otherwise! Trump is so clueless!

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