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Friday Talking Points -- Something's Wrong From The Moon

[ Posted Friday, June 7th, 2019 – 18:00 UTC ]

 

Something's wrong from the moon, my friend
Something's wrong from the moon
As I look down at you, my friend
Something's wrong from the moon

-- Crack The Sky, "Nuclear Apathy"

Well, we certainly never thought we'd use that particular lyric as a headline, but it's just too tempting to pass up this week. Because President Donald Trump just tweeted the following bit of wisdom:

For all of the money we are spending, NASA should NOT be talking about going to the Moon -- We did that 50 years ago. They should be focused on the much bigger things we are doing, including Mars (of which the Moon is a part), Defense and Science!

Um, OK. Let's just examine what absolute lunacy this tweet is. Firstly, Trump himself has been the one pushing NASA to get back to the moon as soon as possible. Even stranger, the Moon is not actually "part" of Mars. It just isn't. It's a long way from Mars.

The Washington Post, tongue planted firmly in cheek, ran a response: "Fact Check: What Is The Moon?"

NASA has framed its lunar ambitions as a steppingstone to an eventual human mission to the Red Planet, which is possibly what Trump was referring to when he called the moon "a part" of Mars.

But just in case, it seems worth stating for the record: The moon is a satellite of Earth.

In fact, the moon is probably most accurately described as part of our own planet. Rocks brought back by the Apollo astronauts show that lunar material carries chemical fingerprints almost identical to those found on Earth. Scientists think that the moon was formed from debris produced during an ancient, giant collision between Earth and a now-vanished protoplanet called Theia.

Mars has two moons called Phobos and Deimos, whose names come from the Greek words for "panic" and "dread." But these small bodies, and the planet they orbit, can be anywhere from 34 million miles to 249 million miles from our moon at any given moment.

Or, as Crack The Sky put it:

On the moon they're laughing hard
On the moon, they're falling off their seats
From the moon we're comedy
From the moon we're really quite a treat

Sigh.

But we're going to make a monumental effort not to get distracted by Trumpian tweets this week, at least up front. Because there was indeed lots of news being made in Washington, even while most of the media was looking at Trump's shiny, shiny lunacy.

The House of Representatives was busy this week, first passing the disaster aid bill that Republicans had been holding up, and sending it to Trump's desk to sign. They next passed a new "Dreamers" bill to fix the immigration problems of all the children brought here by their parents. And they're teeing up for early next week a vote on a bill to streamline the process of getting the courts involved in the stonewalling battle with the Trump White House:

House Democratic leaders are preparing to grant sweeping authority to committee chairs to sue the Trump administration over its refusal to comply with congressional demands for information -- from President Donald Trump's tax returns to former special counsel Robert Mueller's underlying files.

The draft resolution, which the House will consider on Tuesday, formally holds Attorney General William Barr and former White House counsel Don McGahn in contempt of Congress for defying House Judiciary Committee subpoenas seeking Mueller's unredacted report, its underlying evidence, and additional witness testimony.

But the most dramatic proposal will empower the chairs of all House committees to initiate legal action each time a witness or administration official defies a committee subpoena, a move to streamline and speed up the House's ability to respond to a mounting list of confrontations with the White House.

. . .

The resolution can also apply to subpoenas that have not yet been issued. Committee leaders will have the authority to enforce those subpoenas without requiring the full House to vote on each one. Democrats emphasize that the reason for the wholesale change is to prevent contempt citations from dominating House's limited floor time.

Democrats also finally fixed a giant corporate giveaway in a bill they'd previously moved on, but more on that a bit later in the awards section.

That's a pretty productive week all around, but you certainly wouldn't know it from the front-page headlines. We fully expect another round of "Democrats Can't Decide Between Legislating And Investigating" stories to appear, even though they're obviously doing both at once right now. Sooner or later they're going to have to hammer home the case that it is the Republican Senate that can't do anything at all. Mitch McConnell plainly stated that the Senate would "probably not" hold a vote on the new Dreamers bill. And yet still somehow it's always the Democrats who get questioned over not getting things done. Go figure.

House Democratic freshmen sent McConnell a letter begging him to hold a vote on H.R. 1, the sweeping ethics and election reform bill they passed, but he'll likely continue ignoring this, too. The Democrats were mincing no words in condemning McConnell for his inaction. Representative Max Rose: "He won't even take a meeting with us. At this point, I'm thinking the only way we can get a meeting with Mitch McConnell is if we take out our checkbooks and max out to him. That's the only reason why he sits down with people cause he is bought-and-paid-for." Representative Chris Pappas: "Mitch McConnell doesn't know what democracy looks like." Representative Tom Malinowski: "He has no argument for holding up legislation to protect our democracy from foreign interference. He is putting party over country."

Also a favorite of headline-writers everywhere is the "Democrats In Disarray" headline, which is why it's notable that nowhere near the same amount of ink gets spilled when it is Republicans who are engaging in intraparty warfare. This week, the White House tried to hold a meeting to get GOP senators on board with Trump's new Mexico tariffs, but they got an earful instead.

Defiant Republican senators warned Trump administration officials Tuesday they were prepared to block the president's effort to impose tariffs on Mexican imports, threatening to assemble a veto-proof majority to mount their most direct confrontation with the president since he took office.

During a closed-door lunch on Capitol Hill, at least a half-dozen senators spoke in opposition to the tariffs President Trump intends to levy next week in an attempt to force Mexico to limit Central American migration to the United States. No senator spoke in support, according to multiple people present who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private meeting.

The lawmakers told officials from the White House and Justice Department they probably had the Senate votes they needed to take action on the tariffs, even if that meant overriding a veto.

"There is not much support in my conference for tariffs -- that's for sure," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). He said senators hope that negotiations with Mexico will be "fruitful" and that the tariffs will not happen. Most GOP senators strongly oppose tariffs because they view them as taxes on Americans.

The contentious lunch meeting occurred just hours after Trump, during a news conference in London, reiterated his intention to impose the tariffs next week and said it would be "foolish" for Republican senators to try to stop him.

Meanwhile, a bipartisan group of senators is planning on gumming up the legislative machinery even more by forcing McConnell to hold an endless series of votes on bills disapproving of another Trump policy:

A bipartisan coalition of senators on Wednesday introduced 22 separate resolutions of disapproval aiming to reaffirm the role of Congress when it comes to approving the sales of arms to foreign governments.

The effort, led by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Todd Young (R-Ind.) and Jack Reed (D-R.I.), follows Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's announcement last month that President Donald Trump was waiving congressional authority to complete 22 arms deals, worth about $8 billion, that would benefit Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and other countries.

. . .

Still, 22 separate votes -- which could take up to 10 hours each, according to Murphy -- would eat up a lot of precious floor time in the Senate and derail Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R-Ky.) agenda.

What's that? He has an agenda? What agenda? We certainly can't see an indication of one.

American manufacturing hit its lowest point since Trump took office last month, and today's jobs report was also pretty dismal. The answer, obviously, is to slap more tariffs on everyone! Another story which mostly snuck under the radar this week was the news that Trump wanted to hit Australia with tariffs as well as Mexico, but on this one he got more pushback:

Some of Trump's top trade advisers had urged the tariffs as a response to a surge of Australian aluminum flowing onto the American market over the past year. But officials at the Defense and State Departments told Mr. Trump the move would alienate a top ally and could come at significant cost to the United States. The administration ultimately agreed not to take any action, at least temporarily.

And because Trump said he wanted it done, the United States military will now have the critical mission of painting the border wall, to the tune of $150,000 of taxpayer money:

Members of the U.S. military will spend a month painting a milelong barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border in an effort "to improve the aesthetic appearance," according to a border official.

The beautification project in Calexico, California, will use black paint and cost approximately $150,000, using funding from U.S. Customs and Border Protection's tactical infrastructure maintenance funding, the official told HuffPost in a statement.

. . .

Last month The Washington Post reported that President Donald Trump instructed that the bollards, or "slats" as he calls them, be painted "flat black."

The dark color would absorb more heat in the summer, making the metal harder to climb, he argued. He also asked that the tips of the bollards be pointed so that they could put climbers at risk of injury.

He's reportedly also complained that the current structures are ugly.

Senator Dick Durbin hit back on Twitter: "A disgraceful misuse of taxpayer $$. Our military has more important work to do than making Trump's wall beautiful."

The Democratic race for the presidency heated up this week, and will reach fever pitch when the lineups for the first debate are announced next week. The race has kicked off with an interesting dynamic: Joe Biden versus the field. Biden is so dominant in the polling so far that all the other candidates are beginning to take a few potshots at him, in the hopes of removing some of his appeal.

Biden himself had two stumbles this week. His campaign at first said he still supported the Hyde Amendment, which prevents federal money from being used to provide abortions for poor women, and then he dramatically reversed himself after realizing that the Democratic Party no longer considered this a viable political stance. This is pretty early for a flip-flop, but perhaps he can put it behind him to some extent.

Biden also released his own version of the Green New Deal this week, which brought some decidedly mixed reviews. It went further than many had expected, which was a result of Team Biden getting a lot of pushback over their "middle ground" philosophy, but at the same time it also didn't go far enough to please everyone. But the real stumble came when it was revealed that the new position paper plagiarized some passages without citation. The Biden team swore this was an honest mistake, quickly released an attributed copy, and hoped for the best.

Now, this is a particularly bad mistake for them to make, since Biden saw a previous presidential run torpedoed over plagiarism. At the same time, many of the Democratic candidates also have position papers which heavily borrow (without attribution) from many sources, so that helps mitigate the political damage to Biden.

While we're not quite at the debate stage yet, Democrats are starting to appear together at "cattle call" events. The first was the state Democratic convention in California, last weekend. Another one just happened in Atlanta, and then this weekend they'll all be heading to Iowa. Up until now, the candidates have been free to chart their own courses, but now they'll have to compete directly against each other for the same audience.

As mentioned, the other candidates are starting to train their fire on frontrunner Biden. Many candidates took shots at Biden at the California event, which was made easier by Biden deciding to skip it. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders were most notable. Warren hit Biden's idea that we'll return to some sort of normal after Trump is gone: "Some Democrats in Washington believe the only changes we can get are tweaks and nudges. If they dream at all, they dream small. Some say that if we just calm down, the Republicans will come to their senses. But our country is in a crisis. The time for small ideas is over." Sanders hammered Biden for not showing up to the event and heaped scorn on the idea of "middle ground." Seth Moulton later hit Biden on his support for the Iraq War.

All of this means the first debates are likely going to be must-see TV. Politico has a rundown of who has already qualified and who has not:

The 13 candidates who can book their tickets include the race's top figures. Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Beto O'Rourke, Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar and Julián Castro are the top-polling candidates; following a random drawing, they will be split across the two nights, with five on one night and four on the other.

But also meeting both the polling and fundraising thresholds are Tulsi Gabbard, Jay Inslee and two lesser-known figures: Marianne Williamson, best known for authoring spiritual, self-help books, and Andrew Yang, a first-time candidate who wears a baseball cap that says "MATH" on the front as he touts his proposal for a universal basic income.

After those 13 candidates, the rest of the field gets murky. According to a POLITICO analysis, an additional seven candidates have hit the polling threshold: Michael Bennet, Bill de Blasio, John Delaney, Kirsten Gillibrand, John Hickenlooper, Tim Ryan and Eric Swalwell.

Teetering on the edge of qualifying is Steve Bullock. The other three candidates -- Seth Moulton, Wayne Messam, and Mike Gravel -- will likely be excluded from the first debates.

In other debate news, Jay Inslee is not happy that the Democratic National Committee turned down his request for an entire debate on the subject of climate change, and he's not alone in his disappointment.

And we'd like to close on a positive note, from the "better late than never" file. The New York Police Department formally apologized for the Stonewall raids which happened 50 years ago this month (and gave birth to gay pride parades and the entire gay rights movement). It's never too late to say you're sorry, right?

 

Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week

Plenty of the Democratic candidates had some impressive moments this week, but what impressed us more than any one individual were a few poll results.

The first poll came from Michigan. As noted in a followup article: "Trump has never had majority support in Michigan, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin. He won each with a plurality of the vote." Trump's Michigan numbers are pretty dismal right now, with both Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden beating him there by a whopping 12 points -- 53 percent to 41 percent. Also beating Trump: Buttigieg (47-41), Warren (47-43), and Kamala Harris (47-44).

But the truly astonishing poll came from Texas, showing that if the election were held today, Joe Biden would beat Trump in the Lone Star State by 48 percent to 44 percent. Granted, he's the only Democrat who polled above Trump, but six other contenders came within the margin of error (Warren, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, Sanders, Castro, and Harris). If Trump doesn't win in Texas, then he loses the race, plain and simple. That's why it's so astonishing.

Also impressive this week was ProPublica, although due to their nonpartisan nature they don't qualify for an award. Through their spotlighting of the underhanded way that TurboTax and other tax-preparation software companies inserted a loophole into a bill to permanently bar the I.R.S. from developing their own free tax software, enough Democrats on the Hill were shamed into finally doing the right thing. We discussed all of this in the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week section a few months ago in this column, so you can click over to see all the details. This week, a clean bill was introduced without the TurboTax giveaway, showing that shaming legislators does work, at times. So kudos to ProPublica for forcing the issue.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez deserves an Honorable Mention this week, for standing against the practice of solitary confinement. She did so for the most unlikely prisoner -- Paul Manafort. Manafort faces charges in New York, and he's going to be transported to Rikers Island in New York, which is in Ocasio-Cortez's district. She tweeted: "A prison sentence is not a license for gov torture and human rights violations. That's what solitary confinement is. Manafort should be released, along with all people being held in solitary." Sticking up for a political opponent in such a fashion is admirably principled, one has to admit.

Kirsten Gillibrand also wins an Honorable Mention for her very comprehensive policy proposal to legalize marijuana nationally. Some form of this really needs to be included in the Democratic Party platform this time around.

But our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award goes to Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, for reacting to the shooting in Virginia Beach by calling the state legislature to a special summer session to address gun safety laws. This may be nothing more than a stunt, as there is no guarantee that the legislature will even act, but no matter the outcome, Northam deserves praise for such decisive action.

He also may have added a potent quote to the entire gun control argument. He provided the perfect framing of the issue, in fact, saying he wanted "votes and laws, not thoughts and prayers" from other Virginia politicians. The whole "thoughts and prayers" thing had already been derided as being woefully insufficient, but nobody's ever put it quite so plainly before.

So for this talking point and for doing what he can to move the debate forward in Virginia in response to yet another gun tragedy, Ralph Northam is our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week this week.

[Congratulate Virginia Governor Ralph Northam on his official contact page, to let him know you appreciate his efforts.]

 

Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week

Joe Biden certainly disappointed many Democratic women this week, with his support of the Hyde Amendment. He reversed course by week's end, but even in doing so left an impression of political opportunism.

A few of the candidates at the San Francisco meeting of California Democrats got loudly booed for making disappointing comments during their speeches, which they somehow are trying to portray as making them more electable in the general election. This ignores the fact that you've got to win the Democratic primary first, of course, so it's a strange tactic, but one that a few of the candidates (John Hickenlooper, John Delaney, and Michael Bennet) have now seemingly adopted.

But our Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week goes to Democratic candidates who initially swore off big-money fundraisers only to later very quietly start holding them.

Last month in Manhattan, Beto O'Rourke held a private reception for supporters who had paid the maximum amount to his campaign or brought in as much as $25,000 by persuading others to do the same. It was the first such fundraiser of O'Rourke's presidential bid -- and a contrast from the early days of his campaign, when he emphasized that he had "no large-dollar fundraisers planned, and I don't plan to do them."

He's not alone. Pete Buttigieg, Kirsten Gillibrand, and Amy Klobuchar all held fundraisers in the Bay Area during their trip. Buttigieg has also recently met with Wall Street donors. Private "salons" have been held in New York for O'Rourke, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Booker, and Bennet.

Raising money this way is disappointing, of course, but it's most disappointing for candidates who initially planned a grassroots campaign. That reeks of hypocrisy, in fact. So to Beto O'Rourke and all other Democrats who are going back on their promise not to rely on big-money fundraisers, we award this week's Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award.

[We're not going to single anyone out, and anyway our longstanding policy is not to link to candidate websites. You'll have to express your displeasure by withholding donations from candidates who break their own promises, we suppose.]

 

Friday Talking Points

Volume 530 (6/7/19)

Are they laughing at us from the moon? Well, let's see. Ted Cruz, a United States senator who once read Green Eggs And Ham on the Senate floor, responded to the accusation: "Ted Cruz ate my son" by tweeting: "He was delicious!" A Democrat might win Texas. The military is busy painting a wall in the desert. Oh, and the F.B.I. is finally coming clean on its Bigfoot files -- can't forget that one.

Yep, it's been that kind of week, folks, and you'll notice we've made it all the way to the talking points without even getting into all the lunacy Trump tweeted from Europe (with the exception of his "moon is a part of Mars" idiocy). We had to use two of our talking points to point out more Trump lunacy, but that's it. The rest of them are, as usual, provided to give Democrats some solid talking points over the weekend, to be used whenever possible.

 

1
   Trump Tax!

Call the tariffs what they are -- a Trump Tax! Joe Biden gets the credit for this one, and this entire talking point comes straight from his campaign:

We can't trust President Trump to look out for American workers, because for all his bluster, he never does. Just look at the record: The trade deficit is larger than when Trump took office, he's forced labor to take a back seat in his dealings with China, and he's alienated our allies who also suffer from China's trade abuses. Instead of delivering results, Trump is asking American farmers and American families to bear all the costs of his trade war. His administration's erratic and impulsive approach to China is causing families economic pain. Joe Biden would rally our friends and allies to hold China accountable, so that working families and farmers don't pay an extra Trump Tax. Biden would also restore our standing in the world on Day 1, advance our security and prosperity, and deliver results for all Americans -- not just the well connected.

 

2
   Seen the actual numbers?

Trump needs to be taken to task on this one as well.

"Donald Trump made all kinds of sweeping promises when it came to American manufacturing. He swore he was going to bring jobs back. But one key index of manufacturers just hit its lowest point of Trump's term. In other words, manufacturing is now worse off than it was when Trump took office. May was, quote, 'the toughest month in nearly 10 years' for manufacturers, and there's one key reason why: the Trump Tax. One leading economist bluntly stated: 'The sector can't thrive when it's being hit by new taxes at random every few weeks.... it's about the whims of a president who understands very little about how the economy actually works.' So while Trump loves to boast about how much he's doing for all the factory workers out on the campaign trail, he's actually making things worse for them. That's the reality, folks."

 

3
   GOP in disarray!

Still waiting for this to get the same level of attention as when Democrats bicker.

"The Republican Party is in open revolt against their own president. If Trump goes ahead with his Trump Tax on Mexico, it now seems likely that the Senate could vote to end the tariff with a veto-proof majority. That's pretty astonishing, and shows how much the party is in disarray. On top of that, some Republicans are going to push 22 separate bills -- which could take up to 10 hours each -- onto the Senate floor to disapprove of Trump selling arms to Saudi Arabia without the approval of Congress. Republican senators are defying their own leadership on both these issues, and yet the media still hasn't really even noticed. Mitch McConnell is in the midst of Republican-on-Republican warfare right now, so you'd think it'd be worth a story or two."

 

4
   McConnell can't get anything done

Put the blame squarely on the man responsible.

"I am astonished whenever I hear someone claim that Democrats 'can't get anything done' in the House. In actual fact, they've passed over 100 bills, including just this week a brand-new bill to solve the problems of the Dreamers. A new immigration initiative, and nobody even notices! All of these bills head over to the Senate, where Mitch McConnell has become a master of getting absolutely nothing at all done. McConnell refuses to bring the Dreamer bill to the floor, as he's been refusing to act on any House bill. OK, divided government sometimes leads to gridlock, but when it does can we all please put the blame where it belongs? Because the House Democrats are getting plenty of things done -- they're passing good legislation week in and week out, in fact. These things are not being sent to the president for one reason -- Mitch McConnell. He can't get anything done in his house, and it's time to forcefully point this out."

 

5
   Another Obamacare success story

Democrats really need to tout these facts as often as possible.

"According to the American Society of Clinical Oncology, Before Obamacare came into existence, African-Americans diagnosed with advanced cancer were less likely to start treatment within 30 days than white patients. In states that expanded Medicaid as part of Obamacare, these disparity has now disappeared. Obamacare saves lives, period."

 

6
   Tear down the wall!

Maybe we should build a wall between Mars and the moon?

"Donald Trump showed once again that he has absolutely no understanding of anything outside of his own inflated ego this week. Speaking to the Irish prime minister, Trump mistook a very serious issue in Ireland as being exactly the same as his own border monomania. One of the biggest sticking points in Brexit is what to do with the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. The people on both sides absolutely do not want any sort of border controls to appear again, but Trump had absolutely no clue what the issue even meant to the Irish. When asked about the issue by a journalist, Trump exposed his ignorance for all to see: 'I don't think the border's going to be a problem at all.... It will all work out very well, also for you, with your wall, your border. We have a border situation in the United States, and you have one over here.' The Irish prime minister immediately jumped in to correct this idiocy: 'I think one thing we want to avoid, of course, is a wall or border between us.' Trump also insinuated that Ireland was part of the U.K., which further exposed how clueless he truly is."

 

7
   Thick as a brick

Since we were browsing our 1970s records this week, we also had to use the title of a Jethro Tull album (which is perfect, since they're British)....

"There's a British phrase which seems appropriate, after hearing that Donald Trump couldn't quite grasp the fact that the London crowds he saw were laughing and jeering at him rather than cheering for him -- and that phrase is 'thick as a brick.' Mr. President, allow me to explain. When the most popular blimp of all time is a gigantic balloon known as the 'Trump baby blimp,' which shows you in a diaper with your tiny little hands grasping a phone, then they're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you. Does that help clear things up?"

-- Chris Weigant

 

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208 Comments on “Friday Talking Points -- Something's Wrong From The Moon”

  1. [1] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Chris TP 1

    "Joe Biden would rally our friends and allies to hold China accountable, so working families and farmers would not have to pay an extra Trump tax."

    Hold China accountable for what? What is China's sin for which they need to be held accountable? Could it possibly be sending us more goodies than we send them, the so-called (and mis-named) "unfavorable balance of trade"?

    If they are sending us more goodies than we're sending them, is that not to our advantage? Does it no raise our standard of living?

    There was a time when people said an "unfavorable balance of trade" was bad because we had to pay for it with our gold, but that hasn't been the practice ever since the world went off the gold standard, in favor of the "dollar standard".

    What the hell is China's sin??

  2. [2] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    you will go to the moon
    you'll probably be heading there soon
    someday flowers will grow there
    but first you've gotta go there,
    you will go to the moon.
    ~moxy fruvous

    https://youtu.be/LmMtSbn0M-U

  3. [3] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Gee those Democrats really put McConnell in his place with their condemnation of McConnell's inaction.

    And Warren's comment on small changes and ideas and the need for big ideas sure seems to hit the mark.

    If they weren't all full of shit it might mean something.

    It's time for you, CW, to stop pretending that they are not full of shit and that they mean what they say and make them mean what they say.

    Make them take action now to prove they are not just like McConnell in being bought and paid for by running small donor campaigns in 2020.

    You said public shaming works, so expose their lie that they are not big money candidates and inform citizens aboot One Demand so citizens can use it to shame them into running small donor campaigns.

    If they are not running small donor campaigns then they are putting their campaigns and party over country. I get the impression from how you used that statement that you think that this is a bad thing to do.

    That whole paragraph seemed like you think it is bad to ignore things that could help improve our democracy and our country.

    Or does that only apply when Democrats are talking aboot Republicans?

    The comments on McConnell could just as easily be made aboot you ignoring One Demand.

    It's good that you point out that some candidates have started big money fundraising but it is a minor difference as all the candidates are big money candidates.

    That is the real hypocrisy that you continue to fail to point out.

    It's time to enter into the conversation the definition of a small donor candidate and cover the real hypocrisy.

    Maybe the idea would catch on and would be better than all the manufactured debate articles like Democrats (or Republicans) in Disarray.

  4. [4] 
    John M wrote:

    [1] C. R. Stucki

    What the hell is China's sin??

    For quite a few of the Trump base (I'm thinking John Bolton here and others) China's "sin" is: being nonwhite, officially communist, doing better than America economically (at least regarding trade) and being THE acknowledged number one challenger and threat to America's preeminent position of power and influence in the world.

  5. [5] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    But, China's not America's competitor. Come on, man!

  6. [6] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Heh.

  7. [7] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, I meant that sincerely. I'm not trying to be facetious here.

  8. [8] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Not a joke!

  9. [9] 
    neilm wrote:

    CRS [1], JM [4]: Re: China's Sin

    China has not been the cleanest player in the World by any standards. Politically, they are still denying their people a say in their government, and they have been especially aggressive from an espionage perspective (I know, we are too).

    However, let's limit this to the economic realm. There is ample evidence to show that China protects its internal market and works to inhibit importers.

    This is wrong, but understandable - Japan played many of the same games in the 1970s and 1980s but was pressured into becoming a trusted first World economy.

    The TPP was the first sensible step in building a strategic coalition to counter China's economic might in S.E. Asia. By coupling regional economies in S.E. Asia to North American and Japan, and possibly Korea in the future, an economic free trade area with a strong balance of low wage economies able to participate within the intellectual property rules of advanced economies could have been an incredible success.

    I blame Trump for being too stupid to understand this. He is a moron basically.

    But I really detest Hillary Clinton's politically motivated opposition, particularly as she was a supporter, but more importantly, really understood the strategic implications of the TPP.

    Despite this piece of horrific political expediency, I still voted for her in the Primary and the General Elections because she was a great candidate. No disrespect to Bernie.

  10. [10] 
    neilm wrote:

    I'll put this on record right now: if Trump wins easily in 2020 because the economy is kicking butt and taking names, I'm going to be a happy bunny, even though I'd have voted for the opponent.

    So it is with no glee that I point out that a lot of leading indicators are turning negative, however, while it might impact my plans some what, the potential impact on Trump's chances are exponentially worse.

  11. [11] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    a lot of leading indicators are turning negative

    Of course they are. Don't forget that the Republicans have left the economy as a smoking hulk before, and will again, given the chance. It's their nature.

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    Um, OK. Let's just examine what absolute lunacy this tweet is. Firstly, Trump himself has been the one pushing NASA to get back to the moon as soon as possible. Even stranger, the Moon is not actually "part" of Mars. It just isn't. It's a long way from Mars.

    Oh puulleesseee.. This is REALLY a reach..

    President Trump was OBVIOUSLY referring to the grand space project...

    Going to the moon is certainly part of going to Mars...

    It's all logical and rational, once yer past the whole Hyper Hysterical President Trump Derangement Syndrome..

    But we're going to make a monumental effort not to get distracted by Trumpian tweets this week, at least up front. Because there was indeed lots of news being made in Washington, even while most of the media was looking at Trump's shiny, shiny lunacy.

    It's ONLY "lunacy" to those who suffer from HHPTDS...

    American manufacturing hit its lowest point since Trump took office last month, and today's jobs report was also pretty dismal.

    But... But... According to ya'all, it's OBAMA who is responsible!! Oh... Wait.. I get it..

    Odumbo gets the CREDIT when things are good, but President Trump gets the BLAME when things are not so good...

    Silly me... :eyeroll:

    In other debate news, Jay Inslee is not happy that the Democratic National Committee turned down his request for an entire debate on the subject of climate change, and he's not alone in his disappointment.

    What's next?? An entire debate on the orbit of the planet???

    To think that there are really people out there who believe that climate change can be "stopped".. :eyeroll:

    But our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award goes to Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, for reacting to the shooting in Virginia Beach by calling the state legislature to a special summer session to address gun safety laws.

    Exactly WHAT should be addressed???

    WHAT law could there be that would have prevented the VB shooting **AND** compatible with the 2nd Amendment??

    It's all well and good to say something needs to be done..

    BUT WHAT!!???

    No one ever has an answer for that.. :^/

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oops.. Dunno why I hit SUBMIT..

    Moving on...

    [Congratulate Virginia Governor Ralph Northam on his official contact page, to let him know you appreciate his efforts.]

    Isn't he the guy who said that, once a baby is born, then the mother and the doctor can have a "discussion" on whether or not the baby is allowed to live??

    Oh... yeah... By all means.. "Congratulate" the scumbag... :^/

    Raising money this way is disappointing, of course, but it's most disappointing for candidates who initially planned a grassroots campaign. That reeks of hypocrisy, in fact. So to Beto O'Rourke and all other Democrats who are going back on their promise not to rely on big-money fundraisers, we award this week's Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award.

    Good job for acknowledging the hypocrisy... Kewpie for you... :D

    Call the tariffs what they are -- a Trump Tax!

    Abso-frakin'-loutly..

    And they have their purposes.. President Trump's tariff's against Mexico are having the desired effect...

    WINNING.. :D

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Donald Trump made all kinds of sweeping promises when it came to American manufacturing. He swore he was going to bring jobs back. But one key index of manufacturers just hit its lowest point of Trump's term. In other words, manufacturing is now worse off than it was when Trump took office. May was, quote, 'the toughest month in nearly 10 years' for manufacturers, and there's one key reason why: the Trump Tax. One leading economist bluntly stated: 'The sector can't thrive when it's being hit by new taxes at random every few weeks.... it's about the whims of a president who understands very little about how the economy actually works.' So while Trump loves to boast about how much he's doing for all the factory workers out on the campaign trail, he's actually making things worse for them. That's the reality, folks."

    No... The "reality" according to ya'all is that Odumbo is responsible...

    Ya'all have stated so.... Incessantly...

    So, NOW it's President Trump's economy??

    Make up yer minds!!!

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    So it is with no glee that I point out that a lot of leading indicators are turning negative, however,

    And the echos from 2016.... :D

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course they are. Don't forget that the Republicans have left the economy as a smoking hulk before, and will again, given the chance. It's their nature.

    Yea, I know, I know.. Yer HOPING for that to happen.. :^/

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    "I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to....stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!"
    -President Trump

    WINNING... :D

    Ya'all ridiculed President Trump and it turns out ya'all were WRONG once again.. :D

    So, half the TPs here about the GOP going up against President Trump have just been rendered moot.. :D

    Is this a great country or what!!??? :D

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    BIDEN’S SURRENDER
    Joe Biden caved to ‘exceedingly radical’ Dems on Hyde Amendment

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-caves-to-exceedingly-radical-democratic-party-on-hyde-amendment-matt-schlapp

    Yep....

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Police Officer Albert Castaneda
    Grand Prairie Police Department, Texas
    End of Watch: Friday, June 7, 2019

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13839e8d10b9303c8d9aee50576e15b15f4844be91d15073a21097a85b780c50.jpg

  20. [20] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @liz [5-8],

    i believe you. really i do, i know you're serious. i'm not kidding either. seriously not kidding. absolutely not, not at all being sarcastic. not even ironic. not in the least.

    Madam, how like you this play?
    --the lady protests too much, methinks.
    ~shakespeare (hamlet, act III scene 2)

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    20,000 quatloos says that, when the economy picks up again, ya'all will be back to the refrain that it's Odumbo's economy, NOT President Trump's economy...

    Any takers???

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    But our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award goes to Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, for reacting to the shooting in Virginia Beach by calling the state legislature to a special summer session to address gun safety laws.

    It would be interesting to note the number of deaths nationwide of Crowd Based Mass Shootings versus the number of deaths nationwide from abortions..

    What facts would those numbers tell us??

    The whole "thoughts and prayers" thing had already been derided as being woefully insufficient,

    Yea... And screaming hysterically about anti-gun laws that will NEVER come to pass is SOOO MUCH MORE productive.. :^/

    Although I am not one to support the notion of the power of prayer (I am as agnostic as they come) there ARE people who do subscribe to the notion and prayers DO help them..

    How does bleating and whining about WOULDN'T IT BE NICE laws that will NEVER come to pass, help anyone??

    But hay... I am a fair guy..

    Give me a gun law that is allowable under the 2nd Amendment AND would have prevented the VB shooting...

    {{{cchhiirrrrpppp}}} {{ccccchhhhiiiirrrrpppp}}

    Nothing???

    OK, you think about it.. I'll be here all day... :eyeroll:

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden adviser Symone Sanders lashes out at media over Hyde Amendment coverage

    Biden campaign senior adviser Symone Sanders had a heated clash with MSNBC anchor Chris Jansing on Friday about the Democratic frontrunner's sudden reversal on the Hyde Amendment, declaring "we're not going to allow the press the dictate our policy rollout.”

    Jansing began by asking Sanders if former Vice President Joe Biden "caved to pressure" in withdrawing his support for the Hyde Amendment, which outlaws federal funding for abortions, late Thursday after his campaign confirmed his support for the amendment on Wednesday. Sanders laughed at the question.

    "I think what you heard from the vice president last night was one, the truth, but two, a forceful defense of Roe," Sanders said, "a forceful and very plain understanding and, frankly, cattle call in saying to everyone, broadcasting to everyone not just in that room but across the country, that we have to understand that one- Roe is the law of the land..."

    "But that's not the question," Jansing jumped in. "The question was not about Roe v Wade where his position is clear and consistent with the rest of the Democratic candidates, it's about the Hyde Amendment and before this reversal..."
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-spox-symone-sanders-lashes-out-at-media-over-hyde-amendment-were-not-gonna-you-dictate-our-policy-roll-out

    Why can't politicians just answer a simple question??

    Did Joe Biden cave to political pressure??

    Answer: Of course he did... He wants to be the Democrat nominee for POTUS so he goes where the Democrat Party wants him to go.. And that is far far far Left...

    I honestly can't believe Biden would think he could maintain his moderate-Left position and actually have a hope of winning the nomination...

    "You already betrayed your people, Admiral! You've made your choices, sir! You're a traitor! Now, if the bitter taste of that is unpalatable to you, I am truly sorry. But I will not risk my crew because you think you can dance on the edge of the Neutral Zone. You've crossed over, Admiral. You make yourself comfortable with that."
    -Captain Jean Luc Picard, STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION, The Defector

    Or, if you prefer..

    "What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand!!"
    -Captain Spock, STAR TREK VI, The Undiscovered Country

    There will be no more moderate Left Joe Biden...

    Which is a shame.. Because Biden was at his best when he was ignoring Party loyalty and doing what's right...

  24. [24] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    How tragic that the media, especially cable news, continues to be led by the nose. It doesn't bode well for the 2020 Presidential campaign.
    'But we're going to make a monumental effort not to get distracted by Trumpian tweets this week, at least up front. Because there was indeed lots of news being made in Washington, even while most of the media was looking at Trump's shiny, shiny lunacy.'

  25. [25] 
    TheStig wrote:

    As my father would have put it:

    "Trump has his whole head up his ass."

    You cannot shift this conclusion with the Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). Trump is deranged. (TID). You can try and explain what he says with an undefined 3D chess game, or you can propose the man is not playing cards with a full deck .

    The simplest explanation that accurately describes a phenomenon is preferred.

  26. [26] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    'But our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award goes to Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, for reacting to the shooting in Virginia Beach by calling the state legislature to a special summer session to address gun safety laws.'
    Bravo, Chris, for giving this award. Gov. Northam's actions move the conversation about gun violence beyond platitudes and inaction.

    Am I correct in remembering, though, that immediately after the blackface 'scandal', you were among those who were calling for Gov Northam's resignation? If so, I hope next time everyone else is clutching pearls that you will take a breath, allow for some time for the full story - and a 'preponderance of evidence' - to pass, before rushing to judgment.

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    How tragic that the media, especially cable news, continues to be led by the nose.

    Of course it's been led by the nose.. By the Democrat Party...

    No one had a problem with it then??

    Now that the MSM is actually showing some responsibility in reporting the ACTUAL FACTS...

    NOW you Lefties don't like it.. :eyeroll:

    Because there was indeed lots of news being made in Washington, even while most of the media was looking at Trump's shiny, shiny lunacy.'

    You mean, the "lunacy" where President Trump forced Mexico to blink and take some concrete steps to reign in illegal immigrants??

    Yea, give me THAT kind of "lunacy" every day of the week and twice on sunday!!

    Bravo, Chris, for giving this award. Gov. Northam's actions move the conversation about gun violence beyond platitudes and inaction.

    Yea?? You mean like the "action" from Democrats after the Sandy Hook shooting???

    Let's face some reality here.. With the Right, it's "thoughts and prayers"... With the Left, it's Impotence and Wouldn't It Be Nice laws that go nowhere...

    At least thoughts and prayers give some people spiritual "action"...

    What do Dumbocrats give??? Speeches.. and fundraisers.. :^/

    Am I correct in remembering, though, that immediately after the blackface 'scandal', you were among those who were calling for Gov Northam's resignation? If so, I hope next time everyone else is clutching pearls that you will take a breath, allow for some time for the full story - and a 'preponderance of evidence' - to pass, before rushing to judgment.

    Oooooooo good catch.. :D

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    The simplest explanation that accurately describes a phenomenon is preferred.

    ANd yet, when Trump had a -D after his name, you Dumbocrats LOVED him and his money...

    Which simply proves beyond ANY doubt that it's nothing but the -D/-R at play here...

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bravo, Chris, for giving this award. Gov. Northam's actions move the conversation about gun violence beyond platitudes and inaction.

    As far as I am concerned, Northam is defined by his advocating and promotion of infanticide...

    If that is what is "impressive" by Democrat standards... well, that says a lot about Democrats...

    None of it good...

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    Mayor Walsh: Straight Pride Parade Permit Can’t Be Denied Based On Values
    https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/06/07/straight-pride-parade-permit-based-values-mayor-marty-walsh-application-process/

    The mere fact that Liberals have to call out and denigrate a "Straight Pride" parade is proof positive of the double standard and inherent bigotry of the Left Wingery..

    I guess, to the Left, it's only gay people who can have "pride"... :eyeroll:

  31. [31] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Balthy [11]

    Re: "The Republicans have left the economy as a smoking hulk before . ."

    I presume you mean the time the economy collapsed after the housing bubble burst, and six million sub-prime morgages defaulted, right?

    Of course the bubble did pop under a Rep, administration, but we all remember how the bubble actually got inflated. That was when those three notorious Republicans Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Elizabeth Warren, all forced mortgage lenders, most especially the gov't mortgage lenders, to help move millions of poor people into the middle class by eliminating "red-lining" and lowering credit standards on mortgage loans.

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course the bubble did pop under a Rep, administration, but we all remember how the bubble actually got inflated. That was when those three notorious Republicans Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Elizabeth Warren, all forced mortgage lenders, most especially the gov't mortgage lenders, to help move millions of poor people into the middle class by eliminating "red-lining" and lowering credit standards on mortgage loans.

    That's a good point.. I believe it was Bubba Clinton who said that Democrats were responsible for the last economic crash...

    I mean, it's amazing.. Democrats demanded that lenders lower their standards and then are all shocked when lower standards of borrowing equaled lower standards of people paying back (or in this case, NOT paying back) their loans..

  33. [33] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    I guess, to the Left, it's only gay people who can have "pride"...

    no, but calling a PUBLIC DEMONSTRATION "pride" is the dominant class appropriating the language of the oppressed class, like "white power," for another example. when a dominant class appropriates the language of an oppressed class, the language loses its initial meaning and comes to represent a backlash against the empowerment of the oppressed.

    JL

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    no, but calling a PUBLIC DEMONSTRATION "pride" is the dominant class appropriating the language of the oppressed class, like "white power," for another example. when a dominant class appropriates the language of an oppressed class, the language loses its initial meaning and comes to represent a backlash against the empowerment of the oppressed.

    So, it's a double standard...

    A power statement based on race is racist if we're talking "White" Power but NOT racist if we're talking "Black" Power...

    I know what you are saying, but it's bullshit..

    If gay people can have an event that shows their pride without denigration or condemnation, straight people should ALSO be allowed to have an event that shows THEIR pride without denigration or condemnation as well..

    TRUE equality demands it..

    Anything less is pure, unadulterated and sanctioned bigotry..

    But the Left doesn't want TRUE equality...

  35. [35] 
    neilm wrote:

    by eliminating "red-lining" and lowering credit standards on mortgage loans

    This is a right wing meme that only the most desperate ideologues are either:

    1. Too misinformed to understand reality, or
    2. Know better, but can't stand the fact that it was raw capitalism that caused the 2008 melt down because that doesn't make them feel good.

    It is like blaming seat belt laws in airplanes for 9/11.

    The unsustainable mortgages offered in the lead up to 2008 were due to pressure from Wall Street on mortgage originators for more loans to put into their financial products machine. The risk level was of no concern to them because they created a machine that took dodgy mortgages and wrapped them in legal and financial paperwork to look like U.S. Treasuries from a risk perspective.

    Only the most desperate, misinformed or malicious player would work their way back through years to some obscure piece of mortgage legislation, ignoring all the criminal and/or irresponsible behavior of major financial institutions over many years to desperately search out a piece of legislation designed to lower discrimination and conclude that this is the real cause.

    Time to grow up CRS. Learn to identify right wing memes, then make up your own mind on their veracity. Don't let your emotional needs cause willful blindness - we already have our quota of right wing feelies here with Michale - we expect him not to understand anything that doesn't make him feel good, but you should know better.

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    A power statement based on race is racist if we're talking "White" Power but NOT racist if we're talking "Black" Power...

    Just as when you specify "BLACK LIVES MATTER" is as inherently racist as specifying "WHITE LIVES MATTER"...

    For the person who is TRULY about equality, their response to a "Straight Pride Parade" is, "Eh? Who cares.. More power to them..."

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is a right wing meme that only the most desperate ideologues are either:

    1. Too misinformed to understand reality, or
    2. Know better, but can't stand the fact that it was raw capitalism that caused the 2008 melt down because that doesn't make them feel good.

    TRANSLATION: Dead on ballz accurate so I have to spew a lengthy bunch of bullshit to try and fade the heat from Democrats and their responsibility for the mess..

    Bill Clinton hisself said Democrats were responsible, Neil...

  38. [38] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Nypoet (33)-
    Just like when the big money Democrats adopt the language of activists when campaigning and then use the power of their office to oppress the people they were claiming to represent while they were campaigning.

  39. [39] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    neilm

    Re: "The pressure from Wall St. on mortgage originators for more mortgage loans . ."

    Perhaps you'd be so kind as to describe the mechanism by which the mortgage bundlers coerced the mortgage originators into producing more mortgages.

    Perhaps it's analogous to the way the supermarket chains, Alberston's, Kroger and the like, coerce Idaho farmers into growing more potatoes, by saying "if you guys do not produce more potatoes, we, wont be able to sell them??? Surely, that must be the motivational fear tyhat drives Idaho farmers, right?

    Time to grow up, neilm, and make sure your economic theories comport to the world of economic reality.

  40. [40] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Neilm (35)-
    If you substitute CW for CRS as the subject of your comment, party line bullshit for the right wing meme, the big money Democrats for the major financial institutions (not actually a substitution as the big money Democrats already work for the major financial institutions) and everyone that buys the big money Democratic party line bullshit for CRS in the last paragraph your comment seems to be exactly what I say aboot One Demand.

    Are you sure you didn't plagiarize one of my previous comments?

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    Inequality to address inequality is never a good idea..

    Neither is bigotry to address bigotry or racism to address racism...

    If it's bad for one group of people, it's bad for ALL groups of people..

    That's what people who are TRULY about equality believe...

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    Time to grow up, neilm, and make sure your economic theories comport to the world of economic reality.

    Shirley, you jest...

  43. [43] 
    neilm wrote:

    Perhaps you'd be so kind as to describe the mechanism by which the mortgage bundlers coerced the mortgage originators into producing more mortgages.

    Easy.

    My ex-neighbor owns a small mortgage business - and in 2006 he was going thru a divorce (which is why he is now my ex-neighbor, he now lives about 1/4 mile away).

    I was selling risk management software to Wall Street at the time and saw some of the financial instruments they were creating. Basically their machine needed low grade mortgages to create the high interest rate tranches in their instruments - they had a problem with high quality mortgages because they had far lower effective interest rates, and thus were "industrial waste" for the financial institutions - in fact if you read about the history of MBSs at the time, disposing of very low risk, very low return tranches were a real challenge for the banks.

    My friend was pretty down at the time due to the divorce, and told me that they way he stopped feeling sorry for himself was working evenings - one sale of a high risk mortgage netted him $5,000 - and he usually closed one per evening, including weekends - nice business! He simply could not understand why he was being rewarded more for a dodgy loan than a good one, but if he didn't chase the business his competitors would and he'd lose a huge portion of his income - the real money was being paid for the no-doc loans, and it was a choice of "get on board" or lose his business in the middle of an expensive divorce. He basically had no choice, in his mind.

    Capiche?

  44. [44] 
    neilm wrote:

    it was a choice of "get on board" or lose his business

    To put it in Idaho Potato terms, it is like Albersons, et al. paid a much higher price for Golden Wonders than any other type of potato because they were what the market wanted. The Idaho potato farmer could grow low price varieties and risk losing the farm, or they could grow Golden Wonders.

    No pressure, right?

  45. [45] 
    neilm wrote:

    DH [40]:

    Let's go thru this one last time.

    1. Your goal is admirable, money is corrupting our politics.

    2. That does not mean that every politician is equally guilty.

    3. It also does not give you the right to a platform you didn't createor don't own - just as you have no right to the front page of the NY Times, you have no right to CWs column

    4. You would get a lot more sympathy, and less derision, if your own platform was even operational - I just clicked on your link, and it gives me a 404. When I hand type in "onedemand.org" because I took a guess, you still have the 2015 Bill Joel competition highlighted. Since you are not taking yourself seriously, why do you think everybody else will.

  46. [46] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    neilm

    So, you seem to be saying that the mortgage originators were motivated by simple greed, right? How does that translate into "pressure from Wall St."

    Every effort I ever made to make money was motivated by simple greed, as was every effort you ever made. I wasn't feeling any "pressure from Wall St.", how about you???

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    How Biden’s Campaign Confronted Him on Abortion

    The Democratic front-runner’s shape-shifting support of the Hyde Amendment left him in a precarious position this week.

    Joe Biden supported the Hyde Amendment until he didn't.

    Joe Biden’s aides knew that the 2020 front-runner was going to get ripped apart over his support of the Hyde Amendment, which bans federal funding for abortion procedures. They were frustrated that the former vice president wouldn’t change his stance, and that he wasn’t initially receptive to their concerns. Now that Biden has come out against Hyde, his aides are trying to prevent him from being labeled a flip-flopper.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/biden-abortion-hyde/591241/

    Joe Biden's unpardonable sin..

    Getting caught acting like a politician...

  48. [48] 
    neilm wrote:

    So, you seem to be saying that the mortgage originators were motivated by simple greed, right? How does that translate into "pressure from Wall St."

    Idaho farmers are also pressured by greed on one side, and losing the farm on the other. This is the nature of raw capitalism, and why it is very productive by being very destructive. It is also why we have Farm Bills to protect small farmers, but now is simply socialism for large companies for the most part.

    Greed is the lifeblood of capitalism, and at this point in the mortgage origination business the greediest won, and the "good guys" could go out of business.

    Mortgage origination is a cyclical business, with very strong years and very weak years, depending on the underlying housing market and mortgage interest rates.

    The mortgage originators have to cash in on the good years to survive the weak ones - it is the nature of their business. My friend knew that he was raping his future pipeline to get business in 2006, but he also suspected that the cyclical downturn after selling so many mortgages that were likely to fail one day was going to be harsh, and he would need as big a nest egg as ever.

    His business has survived, he almost didn't due to self-inflicted health issues that both drove and were compounded by losing his marriage and the pressure on his business. It is good to still see him walking around the neighborhood, but he looks like a shadow of his previous self.

    The unusual pressure in 2006 came from Wall Street creating demand for a specific type of mortgage and they were willing to disrupt the regular checks and balances on mortgage origination to get what they wanted. They corrupted the rating agencies, and created a very lucrative revolving door for the regulators to keep them at bay.

    You know all this, because I've seen you get it right in the past - in fact we usually differ over the intricacies of the instruments, rather than the genesis of the market distortion which are obvious when you look at the instrument structure. This is why I'm hoping you are just being a bit lazy and/or trying to troll the board by blaming the crisis on a piece of legislation peripheral at best to the market drivers of the crisis. That is Michale's role, and he help me do my daily check on the scroll wheel on my mouse every day at the moment (good news, the scroll wheel is functioning perfectly, even with the extra burden of Michale on one of his cyclical rant bubbles).

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    ‘You have to kill the bear’: Dems attack as Biden stumbles
    After a week of fumbles, it’s open season on the former vice president.

    For the first six weeks of his campaign, Joe Biden largely drifted above the fray, a front-runner beyond the reach of the masses of the Democratic presidential field. His rivals publicly welcomed him into the race, and not a cross word was said about his record.

    Things are different now.

    The hits started coming last week, in thinly veiled references to Biden’s center-left record, his Washington insiderdom, his advanced age.

    “We cannot go back to the old ways,” Sen. Bernie Sanders, the candidate polling closest to Biden in the Democratic presidential primary, said in California this past weekend.

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren criticized “some Democrats in Washington” who “believe the only changes we can get are tweaks and nudges,” while South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg warned Democrats that “the riskiest thing we could do is try too hard to play it safe.”

    Then came a full week of Biden fumbling.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/08/joe-biden-2020-election-1358063

    Well, I am sure glad Democrats stick to the issues and are above attacking their fellow Democrats.. :eyeroll:

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    Re #48...

    And yet, Bill Clinton STILL blames the economic implosion on the Democrats...

    A fact you continue to fail to address..

  51. [51] 
    neilm wrote:

    I wasn't feeling any "pressure from Wall St.", how about you???

    Are you on some government funded, index linked pension and so the markets don't impact you?

    I've had to build the wealth I'll need to retire on, so I'm used to daily pressure from Wall St. and a large part of my planning is financial planning - in fact my wife plans most of the rest of our life, and I focus on funding it.

    I'm always under pressure from Wall St., and I'm also under pressure from D.C. because my taxes, both now and when I retire, pay for the people who don't need to worry about their finances.

    So if you are not under pressure from Wall St. it probably means you are living in a personal socialist paradise where your index linked pension and free health care are just given to you. Odd how so many people who prosper from socialism rail against it. Probably self hate because they didn't create their own wealth and have to live off other peoples.

  52. [52] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Most people undersand "wasn't feeling" as past tense, but "Are you" as present tense. Is that differentiation over your head?

  53. [53] 
    neilm wrote:

    Most people undersand "wasn't feeling" as past tense, but "Are you" as present tense. Is that differentiation over your head?

    A grammar checking response to a financial question that inadvertently speaks volumes.

  54. [54] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    The volumes that it speaks is that your responses to my questions re "Pressure from Wall St." are non sequiters.

  55. [55] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    So, it's a double standard...

    not by most definitions i've read. a double standard would only exist if the unequal treatment were unjust. it's a very right-wing notion that equal always means fair.

    JL

  56. [56] 
    Michale wrote:

    AOC schooled by FBI counterterrorism official after suggesting white supremacists are getting 'off the hook'
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-fbi-counterterrorism-white-supremacists-off-the-hook

    Once again, Occasional Cortex sticks her fat foot into her big mouth and has to have FACTS and REALITY explained to her by an adult... :^/

    No wonder Dumbocrats aren't a threat in 2020.. Their leaders are morons like Occasional Cortex... :eyeroll:

  57. [57] 
    Michale wrote:

    not by most definitions i've read. a double standard would only exist if the unequal treatment were unjust. it's a very right-wing notion that equal always means fair.

    Ahhhhh

    So, unequal treatment is NOT unequal if it's justified!??

    I have to call bullshit on that.. Unequal treatment is unequal treatment.. Justification doesn't enter into it..

    But it DOES beg the question..

    Who decides what's "justified"?? I mean, Palestinians think that terrorism is "justified"...

    Does that make it so??

    Of course not...

    Unequal treatment in response to unequal treatment is still unequal treatment..

    Racism, as in affirmative actions is NEVER a proper response to racism..

    We'll just have to agree to disagree on this point..

  58. [58] 
    Michale wrote:

    Homeowner who grabbed rifle, fatally shot intruder won't be charged, authorities say
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-homeowner-will-not-be-charged-for-fatally-shootign-intruder

    Left Wingers would say that the homeowner should just be a victim. He has no constitutional right to self-defense..

    Not in THIS country! Gun ownership is as much a right as free speech or voting..

    These are the facts. Deal with it..

  59. [59] 
    Michale wrote:

    Maher warns Dems not to make gun control a 2020 issue: 'Liberals should learn more about guns'
    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/maher-warns-dems-not-to-make-gun-control-a-2020-issue-liberals-should-learn-more-about-guns

    Words of wisdom from a TOTAL liberal...

    Gun control is a LOSING issue for Democrats..

    They take that road at their own peril...

  60. [60] 
    Michale wrote:

    Disruptor-in-Chief Shows How to Win With Mexico

    Democrats and their allies in the media continually bemoan President Trump breaking long-standing political norms. They still seem unwilling to grasp one of the central tenets of the 2016 movement that led to his election. Yes, accepted practices and “norms” of Washington worked well for apparatchiks of the administrative state and their crony allies among big business and K Street influencers. But this crooked system failed miserably to enhance the well-being of millions of working-class Americans who therefore chose, very knowingly, to send an agitator to Washington, D.C.

    President Trump has been particularly forceful in breaking protocol and bucking conventional Beltway wisdom in the international arena. For example, he scuttled our participation in the unfair Paris climate accord. He also successfully shamed NATO partners into paying their proper share of the alliance’s defense burden. In international trade, he demands reciprocity and honest dealings from China, a country that has serially abused America for decades.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/06/08/disruptor-in-chief_shows_how_to_win_with_mexico_140526.html

    President Trump is doing EXACTLY what he was hired to do...

    And it's WORKING!

    Anyone who thinks that Democrats have a chance in 2020 need to seek help.. :D

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    "When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.."
    -Saint Ronald Reagan

    And THAT is exactly what President Trump did with Mexico..

    And they bent to President Trump's will..

    WINNING....

  62. [62] 
    Paula wrote:

    Re: most disappointing Dem - Beto - there was a poll this week from TX in which 60% or so (might have been higher) TX Dems want Beto to scrap his POTUS run and run for Senate against Cornyn.

  63. [63] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump is like Melville's white whale. The congressional Democrats are a collective Ahab, pathetic and self-destructive. Determined to destroy what hounds them by its very existence and survival, they never learned the rule of holes: to stop digging. For Pelosi, who has clearly lost control of her drove of sheep in the House, this once powerful woman has succumbed to her basest instincts: destroy the opposition at all costs. This time, the cost may be, as it was for Ahab, her ultimate humiliation and that of her party.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/trump_is_the_democrats_white_whale_and_pelosi_is_ahab.html#ixzz5qHEsv3LP

    You would think that Democrats would cut their losses and stop the hemorrhaging... The very first rule when you find yourself in a deep hole is to STOP DIGGING....

    I don't even think a landslide loss in 2020 is going to snap Democrats out of their destructive streak....

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    Re: most disappointing Dem - Beto -

    Who could have predicted that!?? :D

    Oh... wait.. :D

  65. [65] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    neilm (45)-
    I doubt it will be the last time.

    1. no argument.

    2. False equivalency argument again. I never said they were all equal. I just point out how they all take big money.

    3. Arguing against a position I did not take again. My position is that journalists have responsibility to present information. I never claimed a right to force them to do anything.

    But I do have an opinion on what they do or don't write/publish and a right to express my opinion here for as long as CW allows.

    4. What makes you think I want sympathy?

    The derision doesn't bother me here because I just consider the source which usually undermines their own credibility by arguing against arguments that I don't make instead of addressing the arguments I do make.

    So you were able to type One Demand into a search engine and access the site? Is that a special skill that most people capable of registering to vote are not capable of doing?

    How can anyone be expected to take CW seriously when his website still links to Obama Poll watch?

    How can anyone take you seriously when you avoid addressing the issues and only argue against positions that I did not express and focus on irrelevant nonsense?

  66. [66] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    The mere fact that Liberals have to call out and denigrate a "Straight Pride" parade is proof positive of the double standard and inherent bigotry of the Left Wingery..

    I guess, to the Left, it's only gay people who can have "pride"... :eyeroll:

    First... the “...eyeroll:” little catchphrase you’ve obviously just discovered (and only ten years after it was popular!) makes you sound like an annoying 13yr girl that lived next door to me growing up. Sadly, she died in her sleep just before her 21st b-day. I know most people think that’s the best way to go... but it’s not when you are driving your car doing 65mph on a sharp turn!

    Next, you are such a snowflake! If you need a pride parade to make you feel good about being heterosexual, go right ahead... that’s why you think the gay community decided to hold pride parades, after all. (And If you need encouragement, just remember that this is about your sexual orientation, not your sexual performance!)

    For the gay community, Pride is a way of saying to the world that we are here to stay...you cannot legislate us away....you cannot pray the gay away! Pride is about letting people see the faces of the people who can be fired from their jobs in many states simply because of who they love. But if you feel you need a Pride parade, you have my blessing.

    Why am I surprised that you would take this stance? I mean, just days ago you made it clear that being falsely accused of rape was a much more abhorrent crime than the act of being raped is!

  67. [67] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Disruptor-in-Chief Shows How to Win With Mexico

    Yes! Step 1: Create a problem where none existed.

    Step 2: Give it a short ultimatum so no-one has a chance to focus on why the problem exists.

    Step 3: Accept vague promises with unmeasurable results as proof that your threatened action was successful in bringing about change.

    Step 4: Announce your victory, but make sure not to give too many details so no one will seek to clarify what was actually achieved!

    Step 5: Wallow in the glow of praise from idiots who are easily impressed when someone brags about how tough they are.

    This is “winning” for Trump.

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    Next, you are such a snowflake! If you need a pride parade to make you feel good about being heterosexual, go right ahead... that’s why you think the gay community decided to hold pride parades, after all. (And If you need encouragement, just remember that this is about your sexual orientation, not your sexual performance!)

    You have NO clue what I think, so let me clue you in..

    Do YOU need a pride parade to make you feel good about being gay???

    For the gay community, Pride is a way of saying to the world that we are here to stay...you cannot legislate us away....you cannot pray the gay away! Pride is about letting people see the faces of the people who can be fired from their jobs in many states simply because of who they love. But if you feel you need a Pride parade, you have my blessing.

    The fact that you think ANYONE needs your blessing proves you are the bigoted part of the problem..

    Why am I surprised that you would take this stance? I mean, just days ago you made it clear that being falsely accused of rape was a much more abhorrent crime than the act of being raped is!

    And it is. Because ANYTHING that denigrates or makes it harder for actual victims to get justice IS worse..

    But you are too stoopid and bigoted to realize that..

    Yes! Step 1: Create a problem where none existed.

    Illegal immigration is not a problem??

    I was right.. You ARE a moron..

  69. [69] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Step 1: Create a problem where none existed.

    Illegal immigration is not a problem??

    Not the problem you'd have us believe. I get it. All of those brown people at the border drive the right wing crazy. It's the centerpiece of Trump's campaign.

    But Trump has only made the problem worse.

    I can guarantee you that with a Democrat in charge, the border situation would be better in under a month.

  70. [70] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    So, unequal treatment is NOT unequal if it's justified!??

    no, it's still unequal, but fair is better than equal. the idea of treating everyone equally is what communism came from, and it didn't work because the world is too complicated for "true" equal treatment to be just.

    the idea of justice is represented by scales because the goal is to balance that which is imbalanced. certain classes of individuals have historically been severely oppressed, so attempts for them to claim power through language, such as "black power," "girl power," "gay pride" is a natural attempt at the balancing of the imbalance in justice's scales.

    to claim power in the other direction is to put weight on the side of the scale that's already too heavy to begin with. "white power" or "straight pride" is to justify imbalance, not to create balance. that's quite literally the creed of nazism, which is one of many reasons why it's offensive.

    JL

  71. [71] 
    Paula wrote:

    [70] JL:

    "to claim power in the other direction is to put weight on the side of the scale that's already too heavy to begin with. "white power" or "straight pride" is to justify imbalance, not to create balance. that's quite literally the creed of nazism, which is one of many reasons why it's offensive."

    Yep - well said.

  72. [72] 
    Michale wrote:

    Not the problem you'd have us believe.

    You only believe what your Party tells you to believe..

    But Trump has only made the problem worse.

    Of course you would say that..

    But you also say that Trump colluded with the Russians, so it's well documented that what you say is nothing but bullshit..

    I can guarantee you that with a Democrat in charge, the border situation would be better in under a month.

    Yea?? You had a Democrat in charge for 8 years..

    How come it wasn't better???

    Face the facts, sunshine.. Yer messiah, Odumbo was a hack..

    President Trump has already vastly surpassed Odumbo in the competency department..

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    no, it's still unequal, but fair is better than equal.

    Oh.. So now you are saying that racism is "fair" if applied towards the "right" person..

    So is a racist who is racist towards the "right" person... Are they as racist as the racist who is racist towards the WRONG person???

    Seems to me, that what you are propagating is nothing more than hate...

    It's OK to hate as long as you hate the person that deserves to be hated..

    It's OK to be a racist as long as you are a racist towards the person who DESERVES to be racist towards...

    In other words, all the hate and bigotry and racism is perfectly acceptable as long as it's the RIGHT people who are being oppressed..

    And what determines that "right"ness of the person and/or group that is hated is Party ideological slav...... Let's call it loyalty...

    OK.. I think I got it now..

    Thanx for clearing that up.. :eyeroll:

    Here's my take away..

    It's OK to hate Democrats because they are bigoted and racist assholes... They DESERVE to be hated BECAUSE they are bigoted and racist assholes..

    So I am actually being GOOD when I hate Democrats...

    Yea.. Thanx, Joshua.. I feel soo much better now.. :D

  74. [74] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    [70] JL:

    I'd take it beyond balance to the difference between equality and equity. This image is one of many that illustrate this concept succintly:

    https://interactioninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IISC_EqualityEquity.png

  75. [75] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @michale,

    justice is not an arbitrary, party-line vote. it's based on facts, like slavery, jim crow, poll taxes, the fact that until 1839, not a single woman in the USA was allowed to own property in her own name, and there are still people alive today who were born before their voting rights were formalized in the constitution. that's not some ivory tower liberal's idea of the "right" people, it's people who inherit a legacy of well-documented, fully legal oppression. the "system" is set up to favor straight white christian males, and trying to fix that inequity is not remotely the same thing, no matter how wholeheartedly you may like to believe that it is.

    JL

  76. [76] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    ... it's not just all in the past, either. It is well-documented that a resume or rental application with a so-called "ethnic" name on it will get fewer responses than the same resume or application with an apple pie name and that Lily Ledbetter and many other women have been paid less than men for the same job title and responsibilities and that interest rates are not the same for all persons with the same income/ability to repay a mortgage or car loan, etc.

    Equality-equity is not some sort of zero-sum game. No movement I have ever read about is looking for a leg up on white men -- they just want the same opportunities and treatment as those who have privilege by virtue of nothing more than their gender, color, and/or national origin. The guys who benefit from this artificial divide may feel threatened by the loss of it, but the only thing they have to give up is the automatic pass to the front of the line.

  77. [77] 
    TheStig wrote:

    RE 28

    You are changing the subject from Trump is/is not crazy to politicians take Trump's donations. Duh. That's well known. Another cheap rhetorical diversion from M.

    Trump has self-characterized himself as Democrat, Republican and other. Look it uo. You seem to have endless time to fiill.

  78. [78] 
    John M wrote:

    Why advocating for a "straight pride" parade is laughable:

    1) No one has ever experienced bigotry by the greater society at large for being straight.

    2) No one who is straight had to fight for the right to marry just based on being straight alone by itself.

    3) No one who is straight had to face the fear of being beaten or killed for being known that you are straight.

    4) No one who is straight had to hide the fact that they are straight out of fear or worry about the reaction of family, friends, employers or society at large to their being straight.

    5) No one ever got called a slur for being straight. For example, getting labeled as a "ladies man" is a boast, not a put down.

    6) No one ever told you that you were going to "burn in hell" for being straight.

    7) There are no programs to where you could be sent against your will to try to reprogram you into not being straight through what amounts to coercion and torture.

    8) There aren't ANY countries where you can be put to death for the crime of being straight.

    9) The struggle for acceptance of being straight in a affirming and positive way isn't a leading cause of suicide among teenage youth.

  79. [79] 
    TheStig wrote:

    M-63

    Following thru on the litery analysis:

    White whale Trump is the antagonist who develops the main character Ahab (Pelosi).
    The whale is a just a destructive force of nature, not the main character. The Donald would not be happy to know that he is not the central character in the novel (in spite of the title, which is was not the original title) and doesn't even have a speaking role. On the othe hand, the protagonist dies, and Trump might enjoy name-calling Pelosi "Peggy" when he reviews the recast novel on Twitter.

    Maybe the author of the editorial should re-read the book, or at least get the Cliff Notes.

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:

    justice is not an arbitrary, party-line vote. it's based on facts, like slavery, jim crow, poll taxes, the fact that until 1839,

    And which Party was responsible for that??

    That's right. The Democrat Party..

    So, it's understandable that Democrats would want to be racist in the OTHER direction..

    Making up for past sins and all...

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    White whale Trump is the antagonist who develops the main character Ahab (Pelosi).

    The fact that you think that the whale/Trump is the antagonist and that Ahab/Pelosi is the protagonist shows the utterly whacked and skewed view you have..

    Such whacked-ness is brought about by your Party slavery.. Or, you gravitate to the Dumbocrat Party BECAUSE yer view is so whacked..

    Not sure which..

    It's especially skewed because, if you look at things clearly, rationally, logically and objectively (a skill set you obviously lack), Ahab is pretty much the antagonist to every one else in the book..

    Much like Pelosi is to every rational and logical person here in real life..

    Yes.. Following thru is quite enlightening...

  82. [82] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why advocating for a "straight pride" parade is laughable:

    The fact that you think that way proves your bigotry..

    Based on the rest of your BS, it's clear you believe that the entire idea of gay pride is to be in the face of those who may not share the lifestyle..

    To force other people to accept said lifestyle.

    Thank you for confirming that activists of that nature are petty and vengeful..

    It's something that has always been blatantly obvious to everyone..

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    ... it's not just all in the past, either. It is well-documented that a resume or rental application with a so-called "ethnic" name on it will get fewer responses than the same resume or application with an apple pie name and that Lily Ledbetter and many other women have been paid less than men for the same job title and responsibilities and that interest rates are not the same for all persons with the same income/ability to repay a mortgage or car loan, etc.

    Do you have ANY facts that PROVE discrimination?? No you do not..

    You have facts that indicate discrimination COULD be what happened.. Or it could have been the result of a host of other factors..

    But, of course, due to your Party sla... er.. loyalty, you choose the possibility that supports your agenda..

    It's called agenda based evidence.. As opposed to what is more logical, evidence based agenda..

    It's a common process amongst the Democrat Party.. Some would even call it a requirement..

    No movement I have ever read about is looking for a leg up on white men -

    Then you have never read about any real movements..

    Facts abound where racist black power groups advocate killing white people and putting white people in chains...

    5 cops in Dallas were killed because BLM wanted a "leg up" against them.. :^/

    Of course, their hate is "justified" in ya'all's eyes so you don't see anything wrong with it..

    :eyeroll:

    The guys who benefit from this artificial divide may feel threatened by the loss of it, but the only thing they have to give up is the automatic pass to the front of the line.

    And allow the black person an automatic pass to the front of the line..

    How is that not racist??

    It's an automatic pass to the front of the line SOLELY based on race..

    The VERY DEFINITION of racism...

    Yet, you don't see it as racist..

    So, how is that any different than a white guy from a hundred years ago who didn't see HIS actions as racist, but rather justified...

    How do ya'all differ from the white guy Democrats of a hundred years ago??

    I don't really expect an answer...

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    You are changing the subject from Trump is/is not crazy

    That's not a serious subject to consider that even warrants a rebuttal..

    to politicians take Trump's donations.

    And that is not factually accurate..

    I was pointing out the hypocrisy (as I am wont to do) of how Dumbocrats behaved towards Trump when Trump had a -D after his name versus how Dumbocrats behaved towards Trump when he had a -R after his name..

    Democrat Trump was lauded by Democrats far and wide.. Democrat Trump was honored by Democrats alongside such notables as Muhammed Ali and Rosa Parks.. Democrat Trump was publicly deified by such notable Democrats as Jesse Jackson..

    All of that was bestowed BY DEMOCRATS on the man who sits in the Oval Office right now..

    And yet, NOW ya'all hate and despise him..

    The man hasn't changed..

    What DID change??

    The Party designation changed..

    When he had a -D after his name, Dumbocrats loved and honored Trump.. Oh yea.. And took his money..

    But now that he has a -R after his name...

    NOW he is Mark Pelligrino personified...

    Blatant and undeniable hypocrisy, SOLELY based on Party slavery...

    That's my point..

    It's understandable you missed it.. Being such a Party slave and all.. Hell, YOU believe that the White Whale is the antagonist!!

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  85. [85] 
    Michale wrote:

    I'd take it beyond balance to the difference between equality and equity. This image is one of many that illustrate this concept succintly:

    https://interactioninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IISC_EqualityEquity.png

    Factually not accurate..

    The labels are reversed...

    Equity is where everyone gets the same regardless of any other factors.

    Equality is where everyone gets what they need to have the same "view" as everyone else..

    Take welfare for example..

    Let's say a family of 4 needs 1000 dollars a month to survive...

    Family A makes 200 a month and Family B makes 400 a month..

    .... I'll continue this later. Got to get to work..

  86. [86] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK.. Where was I...

    Family A makes 200 amonth.. Family B makes 400 a month..

    Equity says they each get a flat rate, regardless of all other factors...

    Now equality, TRUE equality.. Utopian equality dictates that each family would be given the amount so that their total equals 1000....

    THAT'S true equality..

    What chaps MY ass is that Democrats take this concept of equality and throw in racism, identity politics and their own concept of what constitutes "need"..

    Class dismissed...

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    justice is not an arbitrary, party-line vote. it's based on facts, like slavery, jim crow, poll taxes, the fact that until 1839,

    And which Party was responsible for that??

    That's right. The Democrat Party..

    So, it's understandable that Democrats would want to be racist in the OTHER direction..

    Making up for past sins and all...

    The point being that racism in response to racism is STILL racism..

    And it's NEVER justified or justifiable..

    With one exception, institutionalized racism is dead in this planet.. It died the day we (ya'all and I) elected a black POTUS and created a very black-heavy government..

    The exception is, of course, Affirmative Action. Which is a textbook example of racism in response to racism.. Racism to address racism..

    And, racism is wrong. PERIOD..

    Once again.. Class dismissed..

  88. [88] 
    Michale wrote:

    With one exception, institutionalized racism is dead in this planet..

    Got a little ahead of myself there.. :D heh

    That SHOULD read: With one exception, institutionalized racism is dead in this country..

    So I think big.. Sue me.. :D

  89. [89] 
    Michale wrote:

    Buttigieg slams Trump, Biden in same remark, then jokes all 2020 Dems should 'carpool'.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/buttigieg-subtly-slams-biden-in-iowa-then-jokes-all-the-candidates-should-carpool

    So, Buttagig says that American was never that great...

    Yea... THAT will win over patriotic Americans.. :eyeroll:

  90. [90] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why advocating for a "straight pride" parade is laughable:

    Why are all so threatened by a Straight Pride parade???

    Are ya'all heterophobic?? :eyeroll:

  91. [91] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Dem-on-Dem attacks have begun

    The niceties have ended: 2020 Democrats are breaking their own pledge not to go after one another. The attacks of the past week show what a long primary they're in for.

    Why it matters: These jabs and skirmishes show a fracturing Democratic Party — exactly what some top Democrats wanted to avoid in order to maximize their chances of defeating President Trump.
    https://www.axios.com/2020-democrats-centrists-progressives-attacks-77242ddb-bb37-4b15-98c6-7d107ef55d51.html

    Once again, the lie that Democrats don't attack other Democrats is exposed as the bullshit it is..

  92. [92] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Have you seen ENDGAME yet???

  93. [93] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    No, but, as always, I will.

  94. [94] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    @liz [5-8],

    i believe you. really i do, i know you're serious. i'm not kidding either. seriously not kidding. absolutely not, not at all being sarcastic. not even ironic. not in the least.

    Joshua, I was just posting some favourite Biden quotes. :)

  95. [95] 
    Michale wrote:

    No, but, as always, I will.

    I am re-watching it and there is a funny part with Captain America's slogan, "I can do this all day.."..

    I won't say anymore but when you see it, you'll think of me... :D

  96. [96] 
    TheStig wrote:

    M-81

    You don't know what a protaganist is you ignorant loudmouth. I doubt you have even read the novel.. You've probably seen a movie version or skimmed Classics Illustrated...but those don't change the protagonist, antagonist or narrator assignments.

    All the above applies to the author of your linked editorial.

    My "whacked and skewed view" is the standard English Lit. interpretation. Don't trust me, LOOK IT UP! You have more than enough time on you hands.

  97. [97] 
    neilm wrote:

    Chris Ladd nails it again:

    Leaders around the world have learned how to play this
    administration. Ignore Trump’s bluster. Pay for rooms at his hotel while feeding cash through his family’s money laundering business. Eventually Trump will give you whatever you want as long as you let him pretend to defeat you in a WrestleMania victory lap on social media.

    https://www.politicalorphans.com/trump-trade-theater/

    You'd think by now that the marks would twig that they are being played. But they've been digging thru the BS for so long now that they are covered in it themselves and the hole they re in is too big to get out of.

    America needs to outvote the gullible who keep falling for this con man - it is a patriotic imperative to stop Trump and his family selling the country to line his own pockets.

    The Trump family has made many attempts to engage in conventional businesses, like airlines, vitamin supplements, publishing or vodka. Those businesses invariably fail. The Trump businesses that don’t fail are his real estate ventures, which cater to high-wealth individuals looking to launder money. And as Eric ("the Dim") let us know:

    “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

  98. [98] 
    Michale wrote:

    but those don't change the protagonist, antagonist or narrator assignments.

    Yer right.. You are trying to change the assignments based on your Party slavery...

    Ahab is clearly the villain of the piece.. Based on his interactions in the story, this is obvious to anyone who is not enslaved by political ideology and dogma..

    My "whacked and skewed view" is the standard English Lit. interpretation

    All of them Left Wingers and/or Democrats..

    It's CLEAR to anyone NOT enslaved by Party that Ahab is the bad guy...

    I bet you think Thanos is the good guy in ENDGAME, too... :eyeroll:

  99. [99] 
    neilm wrote:

    How the Trumps launder money for Russian oligarchs and others

    A vacant property in Florida provides a quick 101 on the machinery of the Trump family businesses – the successful ones. In 2004, Trump bought an empty Palm Beach mansion in a bankruptcy sale for about $40m. In the midst of the 2008 real estate crash, Trump unloaded the property for $95m to Russian oligarch Dmitry Rybolovlev, who was trying to hide assets from his wife. It remains the largest single-buyer real estate deal in Palm Beach history. For reference, Rybolovlev is a Russian billionaire who definitely did not murder his business partner in 1995. Charges against him were dropped in 1997.

    Trump claimed the premium on the deal was attributable to “improvements” he made on the house. Despite those alleged improvements, Rybolovlev almost immediately tore the house down. It is unclear whether he has ever even visited the property. A quick look at Google Maps reveals that the property at 515 North County Road remains an empty lot

    It isn't even difficult to see the money laundering the Trumps facilitate:

    https://www.politicalorphans.com/a-guide-to-the-trump-russia-collusion-case/

  100. [100] 
    Michale wrote:

    It isn't even difficult to see the money laundering the Trumps facilitate:

    And yet, Mueller's probe (which ya'all claimed would encompass EVERYTHING) did not find even a WHIFF of this..

    Move on, Neil.. You lost..

    You are not going to nullify a free, fair and legal election..

    Yer just gonna have to deal with the FACT that you lost, fair and square...

  101. [101] 
    neilm wrote:

    Mueller wasn't investigating money laundering Michale - he was investigating conspiracy and obstruction of justice.

    The "follow the money" investigations are included in the:

    10 Federal Criminal Investigations
    8 State And Local Investigations
    11 Congressional Investigations

    Nancy wasn't kidding - Trump is facing prison time if found guilty on any of these cases.

  102. [102] 
    neilm wrote:

    As Mueller has said, if Trump didn't conspire with Russia, Mueller would have said so. Also, despite the "Sugar and spice and all things nice" version of the Mueller report you were spoon fed in your bubble, the report documents criminal obstruction of justice activity by Trump.

    Personally I think Nancy should hold tight until about this time next year then let the impeachment dogs off the leash in time for McConnell to be forced into a corner just before the election. The house should spend the intervening time dragging one case after another; one absent witness after another absent witness; expose one lie from Trump after another lie from Trump.

    Even the blind partisans will know the whole "House of Trump" stinks, but more importantly, either moderate Republicans will vote against Trump, or more likely, refuse to vote for him again.

    The game is on.

  103. [103] 
    neilm wrote:

    Amusing alternate lyrics from "Welcome Back to Gotham City"

    "When Tru-u-ump is in his second house
    And our moon collides with Mars.
    Then Pe-e-ence shall guide the planets
    And Ba-a-arr will rule the stars!
    This is the dawning of the age of Nefarious, the Age of Nefarious!"

    http://welcomebacktopottersville.blogspot.com/

  104. [104] 
    neilm wrote:

    Just a little reminder of impeachment article 3 against Nixon:

    “In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, contrary to his oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives.”

    Trump is easy to set up - he has to hide so many crimes and lies that he has blundered into repeating the impeachable offences Nixon made.

    Nancy needs to keep building the case in the court of public opinion, however Trump is making it easy for her.

  105. [105] 
    Michale wrote:

    Mueller wasn't investigating money laundering Michale - he was investigating conspiracy and obstruction of justice.

    And yet, when you brought this up before, *I* was the one that said Mueller is not investigating that.

    And YOU (and a lot others) said the Mueller has the authority to go ANYWHERE he wants..

    YOU (and a lot others) said that ALL of President Trump's criminal activities are fair game to Mueller..

    And, since YOU (and a lot of others) went on and on about how awesome and competent Mueller is..... The FACT that Mueller didn't find ANY of that proves how full of shit YOU (and a lot of others) are..

    Iddn't it a pain when your OWN words come back and bite you on the ass! :D

    I love it.. :D

  106. [106] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump is easy to set up - he has to hide so many crimes and lies that he has blundered into repeating the impeachable offences Nixon made.

    And yet Pelosi is running scared from impeachment!! :D

    That should tell you something if you weren't blinded by Party slavery..

    Nancy needs to keep building the case in the court of public opinion, however Trump is making it easy for her.

    ANd yet, Trump approval ratings are on the up swing.

    So your lies are exposed as nothing but Party slavery... :D

  107. [107] 
    Michale wrote:

    As Mueller has said, if Trump didn't conspire with Russia, Mueller would have said so.

    Actually, You are lying.. Mueller said no such thing..

    But why let a little thing like the FACTS dissuade you from your delusional bullshit..

    Even the blind partisans will know the whole "House of Trump" stinks, but more importantly, either moderate Republicans will vote against Trump, or more likely, refuse to vote for him again.

    Funny.. That's what you said in the run-up to the 2016 election..

    You were full of shit then and you are full of shit now..

    :D

  108. [108] 
    neilm wrote:

    “If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” Mr. Mueller said, reading from prepared notes behind a lectern at the Justice Department.

    Source (one of many): https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mueller-if-we-had-confidence-that-the-president-did-not-commit-a-crime-we-would-have-said-so-841450/

  109. [109] 
    neilm wrote:

    The Brits had a lot of fun laughing at Trump.

    Another amusing lyrical alternate, this one a Pink Floyd one:

    "All in all he just another dick with no wall!"

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-06/4/16/asset/buzzfeed-prod-web-03/sub-buzz-9228-1559679206-1.jpg?downsize=1600:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto

  110. [110] 
    neilm wrote:

    Here is Boris Johnson, who Trump claims is his friend, talking about Trump:

    “And I have to say, when Donald Trump says there are parts of London that are no-go areas I think he is displaying a quite stupefying ignorance that makes him frankly unfit to hold the office of President of the United States.”

    Mr Johnson then made a joke at the business tycoon's expense, saying: “I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city, except I wouldn’t want to expose Londoners to unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”

    And, just for the "Faaaake nooos" aficionados who routinely dismiss anything if it isn't from a source they like, I found a "Daily Express" link - about as right wing as you can get in the U.K.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1135535/donald-trump-visit-uk-boris-johnson-tory-leadership-contest-election-US-president-spt

  111. [111] 
    neilm wrote:

    As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions that LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invites all nations to join us in this effort!

    And now Pompeo is stopping embassies from their annual pride month tradition of flying the rainbow flag under the U.S. flag outside embassies.

  112. [112] 
    Michale wrote:

    “If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” Mr. Mueller said, reading from prepared notes behind a lectern at the Justice Department.

    Yes, but that is in reference to the OBSTRUCTION charge, not the Russia Collusion bullshit.

    As usual, you pull out of context bullshit and try to pass it off as fact..

    The Brits had a lot of fun laughing at Trump.

    Just like I had a lot of fun laughing at ya'all on 9 Nov 2016...

    What's yer point???

    And now Pompeo is stopping embassies from their annual pride month tradition of flying the rainbow flag under the U.S. flag outside embassies.

    So?? Why fly a bigoted flag??? You would go apeshit if they flew an LEO flag...

  113. [113] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Why fly a bigoted flag?

    Ask the thousands of embassy personnel doing it anyway. We have a stage-1 insurrection going on:

    U.S. missions in Seoul as well as in Chennai, India, Santiago, Chile, and Vienna all appear to be flying the flag. Jerusalem sent a delegation to the local gay pride parade. The U.S. embassy in New Delhi was illuminated with rainbow-colored lights.

    In Nepal, U.S. Ambassador Randy Berry posed with staff members holding a huge “Pride ’19” message. He tweeted that he was doing this to affirm the U.S. commitment to defending human rights for all.

  114. [114] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    [83][85][86]

    Right you are about your last sentence in [83]: not a single word of this tripe, misrepresentation, assumption, projection, or willful misunderstanding merits a response. I categorically reject your entire fevered fulmination.

    If you refer to whatever dictionary you feel doesn't have a known left-wing bias/agenda, you will learn that:
    1. equality is the state of being equal
    2. equity is the fairness, justice, and impartiality that is the conduit to equality.

    Class dismissed...

  115. [115] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why Trump Is Winning

    Meanwhile, Trump stood on the stage at the Air Force Academy graduation ceremony last week and shook the hands of all 900-plus graduates. What president ever did that? Trump loves America. That's what Americans love about him. Democrats don't understand any of this. It goes right over their heads. That's why Trump will win in an electoral landslide in 2020.
    https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2019/06/09/why-trump-is-winning-n2547710

    No Democrat would ever do that with the US Military..

    Why??

    Because Dumbocrats hate the military.. That hate is well-documented..

  116. [116] 
    John M wrote:

    [82] Michale

    "Why advocating for a "straight pride" parade is laughable:

    The fact that you think that way proves your bigotry.."

    It actually does nothing of the kind....

    "Based on the rest of your BS, it's clear you believe that the entire idea of gay pride is to be in the face of those who may not share the lifestyle.."

    The fact that YOU think it is all BS in FACT DOES PROVE your BIGOTRY.

    Also, the fact that you think homosexuality is a "lifestyle" proves just how out of touch and ignorant you are, when it is no such thing at all. It's an "orientation" not a "lifestyle." Homosexuality is no more a "lifestyle" than "race" is a "lifestyle." It's not something that can be shed or changed every week like a piece of clothing. And this I am sure will be news to you, but gay men, lesbians, singles, married couples and those gay people raising children, ALL do NOT share similar or even the same TYPE of LIVES, despite the fact that they are all gay. Therefore, they can not even remotely be said to all have the same "lifestyle."

  117. [117] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hugh Hewitt: Trump's big win leaves critics sputtering

    Because President Donald Trump emerges as a clear winner from his week-long confrontation with Mexico over our neighbor’s lax enforcement of its southern border, reflexive Trump critics will scramble to find some way of containing what is a clear Trump triumph, which came with assists by Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who conducted the key negotiations.

    Already we have heard about long-term damage to trust between the North American allies, about investor nervousness and Trump’s unpredictability. This sort of flailing about to deny the obvious says nothing about Trump and much about those critics who can no more admit he played high-stakes poker and won a round on border security than they can admit that the president delivered a magnificent tribute to the heroes of Normandy on Thursday.
    https://www.dentonrc.com/opinion/columnists/hugh-hewitt-trump-s-big-win-leaves-critics-sputtering/article_ee293867-a523-5a44-b001-19206a0912bc.html

    Remember how ya'all criticized and ridiculed President Trump with his Illegal Immigration gambit??

    And what did I say??

    I said President Trump knows exactly what he is doing and forced Mexico to make some VERY definitive concessions to stop the flow of illegal immigrant criminals..

    None of you could even ACKNOWLEDGE ya'all were wrong...

    THAT is why ya'all ALWAYS lose..

    Because you simply can't concede when yer wrong, even though the FACTS clear show that..

    Like with your Russia Collusion delusion, like with your ridicule of Mexico tariffs..

    EVERY TIME you spew bullshit and EVERY TIME you are wrong and President Trump bitch slaps the Dumbocrats into oblivion.. :D

    It's ALWAYS hilarious to watch.. :D

  118. [118] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    President Obama congratulates 812 cadets graduating from Air Force Academy

    President Barack Obama called the United States military "by a mile, the strongest in a world" during a commencement speech at the Air Force Academy graduation ceremony Thursday.

    After his speech, cadets took the stage, receiving their diplomas and a handshake from the president.

    "It's the best graduation anyone can ask for," graduate Mohamed Salim Gallala said. "I got to shake the President's hand, watched the Thunderbirds, and all the cool stuff."

    When your sources don't do their homework, you shure look like shit.

  119. [119] 
    John M wrote:

    [112] Michale

    "And now Pompeo is stopping embassies from their annual pride month tradition of flying the rainbow flag under the U.S. flag outside embassies.

    So?? Why fly a bigoted flag???"

    WOW, IGNORANCE on display yet again.

    The flag is the VERY symbol of DIVERSITY and INCLUSION because it was DESIGNED that way. The fact that it includes ALL the colors of the RAINBOW means it was to represent the beauty, the best, the diversity, of EVERYONE. Each color in fact specifically stands for and has its own meaning, including harmony, peace, and spiritual healing.

    For you to call it BIGOTED just shows how far down the alternate reality, conspiracy theory, right wing nut job cuckoo nationalist racist trope rabbit hole that yourself have gone down.

  120. [120] 
    Michale wrote:

    It actually does nothing of the kind....

    Sure it does..

    If a straight would ridicule the gay pride parade, you would accuse him of bigotry..

    Why is it not the same in reverse??

    What makes you so special??

    Also, the fact that you think homosexuality is a "lifestyle" proves just how out of touch and ignorant you are, when it is no such thing at all.

    It's a lifestyle choice..

    You have no factual evidence that proves otherwise..

  121. [121] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    From the New York Times:

    WASHINGTON — The deal to avert tariffs that President Trump announced with great fanfare on Friday night consists largely of actions that Mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the United States over the past several months, according to officials from both countries who are familiar with the negotiations.

  122. [122] 
    Michale wrote:

    WASHINGTON — The deal to avert tariffs that President Trump announced with great fanfare on Friday night consists largely of actions that Mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the United States over the past several months, according to officials from both countries who are familiar with the negotiations.

    Facts to support the claim?? ZERO

    Names of these "officials"?? ZERO

    From the New York Times:

    'nuff said...

  123. [123] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    After the deal was announced Friday night, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) mocked Trump, sarcastically calling the agreement “an historic night!”

    “Now that the problem is solved, I’m sure we won’t be hearing any more about it in the future,” Schumer tweeted.

    After the Times’ report was published Saturday, Schumer handed down a sharper rebuke of the deal, arguing that Mexico had already agreed to many “components” of it.

  124. [124] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Friday’s joint declaration says Mexico agreed to the “deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border.” But the Mexican government had already pledged to do that in March during secret talks in Miami between Kirstjen Nielsen, then the secretary of homeland security, and Olga Sanchez, the Mexican secretary of the interior, the officials said.

    The centerpiece of Mr. Trump’s deal was an expansion of a program to allow asylum-seekers to remain in Mexico while their legal cases proceed. But that arrangement was reached in December in a pair of painstakingly negotiated diplomatic notes that the two countries exchanged. Ms. Nielsen announced the Migrant Protection Protocols during a hearing of the House Judiciary Committee five days before Christmas.

  125. [125] 
    TheStig wrote:

    M-98

    M-98

    Thankyou for confirming that you don't understand the lterary meaning of either protagonist or antagonist. A protagonist is a central character driving the story - can be good, evil, or a mixture of both. An antagonist is simply a character, can be good or evil, or a mix that is in conflict with the protagonist. Ahab's obsession with revenge on the antagonist whale drives the novel, the movies and the comic book. The political affilliations of Ahab and Moby are unspecified, but the novel predates the Republican Party by a few years.

    Now stop your blubbering.

  126. [126] 
    Michale wrote:

    Balthy..

    Still not a single fact to support your claims..

  127. [127] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Neil [108]

    Actually, that was written in the actual Mueller report, as well.

  128. [128] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Michale [126] - well, it shows just how far into the bubble you are. The claim that Obama hadn't shook the hands of the Annapolis graduates? False. The claims that the President forced Mexico to do these things because of his scary tariffs?

    Also false.

    Yer just not having a great day. That's all.

  129. [129] 
    Michale wrote:

    Thankyou for confirming that you don't understand the lterary meaning of either protagonist or antagonist.

    As defined by Left Wing liberal morons..

    Now stop your blubbering.

    What do you care?? According to you, you block me..

    So, were you lying?? AGAIN???

  130. [130] 
    Michale wrote:

    Actually, that was written in the actual Mueller report, as well.

    Yes, it was..

    But Neil lied when he claimed it was with regards to Russia Collusion...

  131. [131] 
    Michale wrote:

    Michale [126] - well, it shows just how far into the bubble you are. The claim that Obama hadn't shook the hands of the Annapolis graduates? False. The claims that the President forced Mexico to do these things because of his scary tariffs?

    Do you have **ANY** facts to support your claims??

    No, you do not..

    I have to wonder why you keep posting bullshit when you KNOW you can't back it up with facts..

  132. [132] 
    Michale wrote:

    But Neil lied when he claimed it was with regards to Russia Collusion...

    Which begs the question..

    If President Trump's actions are so obvious deplorable..

    WHY does Neil et al have to LIE about them???

  133. [133] 
    neilm wrote:

    Well, we have to choose between a President who has over 10,000 documented lies since his inauguration, and the New York Times whose reputation is based on getting things right and that openly admits mistakes when published.

    You have to be very gullible to go with the 10,000 and counting liar, but if your emotional psyche is invested in the liar, and you'd look like a complete fool if it took you years to realize you had been conned, you start shouting about "fake news".

    Mexico wasn't going to give anything away this easily to Trump without testing his actual resolve - they are smart even if Trump isn't.

    As I said last week, we'll no doubt have the gullible posting links to Mexicans shouting "Badges, we don't need no stinking badges" and running around in important looking uniforms proving how Mexican they are to Trump so he can strut around for the gullible.

  134. [134] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    Do you have **ANY** facts to support your claims?

    Yes, at [118] and [124]. Those are what we call "facts". You've got nothing.

  135. [135] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, we have to choose between a President who has over 10,000 documented lies since his inauguration,

    Factually not accurate..

    But you never have been factually accurate.. There is no reason why you should start now..

    As I said last week, we'll no doubt have the gullible posting links to Mexicans shouting "Badges, we don't need no stinking badges" and running around in important looking uniforms proving how Mexican they are to Trump so he can strut around for the gullible.

    Whatever you have to tell yourself to make it thru your day.. :D

  136. [136] 
    neilm wrote:

    But Neil lied when he claimed it was with regards to Russia Collusion...

    I never mentioned collusion - there isn't any point - it is attempted conspiracy that Trump committed, but Mueller couldn't get enough evidence because of the systematic lying and obstruction by Trump and his minions.

    It will be fun watching the gang members parade in front of cameras and having to decide to either repeat the lies or come clean, knowing that the video will represent them for the historical record.

  137. [137] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yes, at [118] and [124]. Those are what we call "facts".

    No... It's all hearsay and anonymous officials..

    Come talk to me when you actually have FACTS...

    That means we'll never hear from ya again.. :D

  138. [138] 
    Michale wrote:

    I never mentioned collusion - there isn't any point -

    You said it in response to my point about your Russia Collusion delusion..

    But it's nice to see you concede that it was just a delusion..

    it is attempted conspiracy that Trump committed,

    And yet, Mueller stated that there was "NO EVIDENCE" to support that..

    So, once again, you lose...

    It seems to be a habit with you, Neil..

  139. [139] 
    Michale wrote:

    When all is said and done....

    The FACTS are the President Trump is completely and 1000% innocent of Russia Collusion...

    And THAT fact simply drives ya'all crazy...

  140. [140] 
    Michale wrote:

    Cops push back after Rainn Wilson claimed poor response to noose found in friend's yard
    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rainn-wilson-noose-yard-friend-police-response

    Another claim of a racism and the "victim" whines that cops didn't take the report seriously..

    Which is what happens after such a blatant and publicized FALSE report of a racist attack..

    Thereby proving that FALSE claims of attacks such as these are *WORSE* than actual attacks themselves..

    Shove that up your ass, Russ...

    Vindication, thy name is Michale.... :D

  141. [141] 
    Balthasar wrote:

    It's all hearsay and anonymous officials..

    No, it's not. The article about Obama comes from a Fox affiliate. He was there, and shook hands.

    The other article describes PUBLIC declarations by US officials. They happened, and are on the public record. There's no conjecture present.

    I don't think that you looked at either of them.

  142. [142] 
    neilm wrote:

    You're keeping score in your own game where you set the rules and act as the referee, Michale.

    It is touching, but somewhat sad, to think I'm interested in the score.

  143. [143] 
    neilm wrote:

    It is nice to see that Michale has conceded that Trump is guilty of obstruction, just not "collusion" - which was never under investigation.

    News alert buddy, he is also guilty of attempted conspiracy. America can't prove it yet, but we are working on it. We know that there is something they are trying to hide, otherwise they wouldn't be lying so much, especially the "orphans" whopper papa crook concocted to try to save "Fredo".

    I think America will find some treason in there as well as we keep investigating this criminal racket.

    There is a lot of time to keep turning over stones, and it is useful to see where Trump is trying to block America from finding out the truth.

  144. [144] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Which is what happens after such a blatant and publicized FALSE report of a racist attack..

    Thereby proving that FALSE claims of attacks such as these are *WORSE* than actual attacks themselves..

    So you think that the police do not take each call at face value in how they investigate it? You love to bring up the Jussie Smollett incident as the example of the damage that false reporting does, but you fail to recognize that the police handled that case like they do all others...they take the person’s statements and investigate them to see if they can corroborate the victim’s account. They were not duped. They followed the evidence and determined that he had set up the whole event.

    News Flash — people make false criminal reports all the time! Those cases that make the headlines are sensational for the general public, maybe, but for law enforcement it isn’t something that they don’t see every day and recognize!

    If you truly knew anything about law enforcement, you would realize that without solid physical evidence or eye witnesses to support the accusation that a crime was committed, the police do not have the legal authority to charge the accused!

    NO, past false reports by others do not cause the police to take a current victim’s claims less seriously!

    Stupidity, thy name is Michale!

  145. [145] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Do you have ANY facts that PROVE discrimination?? No you do not..

    i do. in 2016 there were nearly thirty thousand reports of housing discrimination, which is considered a vast underestimation. the root causes as well as the proximate causes are all extremely well documented.

    source: NFHA 2017 report

    https://nationalfairhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/TRENDS-REPORT-4-19-17-FINAL-2.pdf

  146. [146] 
    TheStig wrote:

    M-129

    I block you on my windows system because I find you an ignorant, mean spirited, pompus, bigoted and repetitious old sophist not worth my time. But, the windows machine has crashed and I'm making do with an old tablet until I sort out the problem. No blocking capabilty on the glass keyboard. I do turn off the filter on the PC every now and then for yucks. So people who study and/or appreciate great lterature are all left wing liberal morons? Another one of your sweeping rhetorical generalizations. I think that's about as much exercise as must you ever get these days.

  147. [147] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Your blocker isn't working.

  148. [148] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @ts,

    if you're going to go to the bother of blocking one person, why go halfway? liz and i are certainly pompous, kick is mean-spirited, don is nothing if not repetitious, and i think CRS covers the rest of those, so why not just block everybody?

  149. [149] 
    Michale wrote:

    No, it's not. The article about Obama comes from a Fox affiliate. He was there, and shook hands.

    Did he shake EVERY hand??

    No he did not.

    Irregardless of THAT lie of yours, I was asking if you had any FACTS to support your claims that Mexico had already agreed to their recent concessions.

    No you do not..

    The other article describes PUBLIC declarations by US officials. They happened, and are on the public record. There's no conjecture present.

    Which are not relevant to Mexico's recent concessions..

    I don't think

    Now on THIS, we are in complete agreement..

  150. [150] 
    Michale wrote:

    It is touching, but somewhat sad, to think I'm interested in the score.

    And yet, here you are, always trying to prove me wrong and always failing... miserably failing..

    It is nice to see that Michale has conceded that Trump is guilty of obstruction, just not "collusion" - which was never under investigation.

    Of course, I said no such thing.. But why include FACTS when you have your bullshit..

    News alert buddy, he is also guilty of attempted conspiracy. America can't prove it yet, but we are working on it.

    If you can't PROVE it, then he is INNOCENT of it..

    You realize that, right?? You realize that, in America, a person is INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty..

    By your own admission, you can't prove President Trump guilty.

    So he IS completely and 1000% innocent..

    And THAT just drives you batshit crazy... :D

    I think America will find some treason in there as well as we keep investigating this criminal racket.

    Yea and you also thought that Hillary would be President.. You also thought that Mueller would prove Russia Collusion..

    You see how your so-called "thought process" is so whacked because of your Party slavery??

    There is a lot of time to keep turning over stones, and it is useful to see where Trump is trying to block America from finding out the truth.

    You always keep saying that.. "Oh, we got time".. "Oh, it's only a matter of time"..

    And yet.. you are ALWAYS wrong... :D

  151. [151] 
    Michale wrote:

    i do. in 2016 there were nearly thirty thousand reports of housing discrimination..

    Of course the report says that.. It was an Obama administration...

    I wouldn't believe ANYTHING an Obama official would say.. ESPECIALLY in regards to racism..

    "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon"

    "The cops acted stupidly"

    Any report you have starts from the point that there is racism and skews any "facts" to "prove" the pre-determined point. There are a myriad of reasons why those things happened. Racism is only a possibility..

  152. [152] 
    Michale wrote:

    I block you on my windows system because I find you an ignorant, mean spirited, pompus, bigoted and repetitious old sophist not worth my time. But, the windows machine has crashed and I'm making do with an old tablet until I sort out the problem. No blocking capabilty on the glass keyboard. I do turn off the filter on the PC every now and then for yucks. So people who study and/or appreciate great lterature are all left wing liberal morons? Another one of your sweeping rhetorical generalizations. I think that's about as much exercise as must you ever get these days.

    So, what you are saying is you don't have the self-control to NOT respond to me on your own..

    Am I THAT far under your skin?? :D

    Let's face reality here, my friend.. I argue and debate my position so well that you can't help but respond... Like Neil, you HAVE to take me down because I am so damn good at what I do...

    And you don't like getting your ass kicked on a daily basis, so you have to resort to artificial means to prevent it from happening..

    That's what is REALLY what's going on here.. :D

    As to my traits.. As JL points out, many of the traits you apply to me are shared by others..

    Yet, you block me and don't (with one possible exception) block them...

    And do you know WHY you don't block them?? Because they agree with you politically.. You can put up with their faults which are, apparently, the same as mine, because they are politically aligned to your politics..

    Which simply goes to show that your sole determination is the political ideology that is at work.. You put up with "arrogant" and "mean-spirited" and "ignorant" from other people because at the end of the day, ya'all agree politically..

    In other words, if I was everything you claim to dislike, but I was a Democrat Party slave as you are, then you would happily read each and every one of my comments.. :D

    But hay.. I still like ya... I am actually kind of flattered that I am so much under your skin that you are so compelled to respond to me when you see my comments..

    It's very flattering.. :D

  153. [153] 
    Michale wrote:

    if you're going to go to the bother of blocking one person, why go halfway? liz and i are certainly pompous, kick is mean-spirited, don is nothing if not repetitious, and i think CRS covers the rest of those, so why not just block everybody?

    To be fair to Stig, he HAS mentioned in passing that he has blocked DH... But Don is so 3rd Party oriented, I doubt he could be considered a Democrat in the context that ya'all are.... :D

    So my theory that Stig doesn't block the others because the Party ideology is the same still holds water...

  154. [154] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    i do. in 2016 there were nearly thirty thousand reports of housing discrimination..

    Of course the report says that.. It was an Obama administration...

    I wouldn't believe ANYTHING an Obama official would say.. ESPECIALLY in regards to racism..

    "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon"

    "The cops acted stupidly"

    Any report you have starts from the point that there is racism and skews any "facts" to "prove" the pre-determined point. There are a myriad of reasons why those things happened. Racism is only a possibility..

    OK, you can disregard this.. :D

    I made the error of assuming you were talking about an Obama Administration report...

    Once I determined it was an NGO report, I took a look at it..

    Having conceded my error, my original estimate stands..

    There were 28,181 reported complaints of
    housing discrimination in 2016. Of these,
    private fair housing organizations were
    responsible for addressing 70 percent, the
    lion’s share of all housing discrimination
    complaints nationwide.

    • 55 percent of these complaints involved
    discrimination on the basis of disability,
    followed by 19.6 percent based on racial
    discrimination and 8.5 percent based on
    discrimination against families with kids.

    • 91.5 percent of all acts of housing
    discrimination reported in 2016 occurred
    during rental transactions.

    From these facts, the obvious conclusion is that these acts of bias were based on greed and not on discrimination, racism or bigotry...

    They actually PROVE my point that, as is often the case, discrimination, racism or bigotry is assigned even though it's clear that other factors are in play..

    My apologies for my original error.. I should know better... :D

  155. [155] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now that yesterday's business is addressed, lets take a look at what's going on in the world today.. :D

  156. [156] 
    Michale wrote:

    California Dems agree to full health benefits for many low-income illegal immigrants, in swipe at Trump
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-democrats-full-health-benefits-illegal-immigrants-trump

    No wonder California is such a shit-hole..

    With a homeless population that numbers in the hundreds of thousands, Dims in California are going to pay the full health-care of illegal immigrant criminals...

    Fine.. President Trump should just start building bridges.. From the border to Los Angeles and San Francisco and Sacramento.. But leave San Diego out of it...

    I still have a soft spot for my hometown...

  157. [157] 
    Michale wrote:

    GOP opponent says AOC ‘literally ran’ away when challenged to debate
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-opponent-says-aoc-literally-ran-away-when-challenged-to-debate

    Occasional Cortex literally runs away from a debate.. :D

    How utterly fitting.. Congressional Democrats are cowards..

  158. [158] 
    Michale wrote:

    In North Carolina, there was an accidental discharge of a firearm that resulted in death..

    That's sad... But what's interesting is that they determined the weapon was "registered" to the woman who died..

    So, apparently, there already IS gun registration, just like ya'all have wanted...

    And did it help in preventing this tragedy??

    No, it did not..

    Gun registration does NOTHING to stop or help stop gun violence...

    It certainly would do nothing to stop Crowd Based Mass Shootings, which is the ONLY time we hear anything about anti-gun laws from Demcorats..

    So, once again, I challenge ANY of you to come up with a gun law that will prevent or help prevent Crowd Based Mass Shootings and that is allowable under the 2nd Amendment...

    Take your time.. I'll be here all day... :D

  159. [159] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nancy Pelosi needs to stop her endless war against Trump

    Chalk this one up to “everything is relative.” Someone who admires Nancy Pelosi and talks to her regularly assures me that, “She’s not one of the crazies.”

    The praise, such as it was, aimed to persuade me that the Speaker is not off the rails like the Democratic lynch mob forming in the House.

    That’s good to hear, but then why does Pelosi keep talking as if she’s in a banana republic? Doesn’t she realize she’s playing a dangerous game guaranteed to tear America further apart and spark a tit-for-tat escalation?

    Twice in recent weeks she jacked up the temperature on the crazies’ obsession with impeaching President Trump. First she accused him of engaging in a criminal “coverup” and then said she didn’t favor impeachment, she favored putting Trump “in prison.”

    In neither case did Pelosi detail what crimes the president of the United States committed that constituted a coverup or would be worthy of prison. It’s also significant that she made both comments after the release of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report that found no collusion and offered no conclusion on obstruction, with the attorney general ruling that there was no obstruction.

    So what the hell is she talking about?

    The explanation makes sense only in the bizarro world of far-left politics in the age of Trump.
    https://nypost.com/2019/06/08/nancy-pelosi-needs-to-stop-her-endless-war-against-trump/

    The fact that you Democrats are a thousand times more hysterical against President Trump than the Republicans were against Obama should cause ya'all pause...

    But Hyper Hysterical President Trump Derangement Syndrome apparently masks the very concept of shame...

  160. [160] 
    Michale wrote:

    Moreover, the endless war against Trump won’t be a one-off. Some of his supporters can be expected to retaliate in kind the next time there is a Democrat in the White House.

    Would it be surprising if angry Republicans also start to boycott the inauguration and the State of the Union? If the GOP holds one or both houses, investigations of the new president’s past and family would be almost guaranteed from day one. After all, turnabout would be fair play.

    Keep it going and soon enough impeachment — and prison — could become political tools routinely used by both parties to overturn elections. My fear is that it would take another civil war to stop the escalating cycle.

    If Pelosi’s friends are right that she is not a crazy, she needs to act like it. If she believes impeachment is wrong for the country as well as her party, she must say it clearly and stop trying to have it both ways.

    She could also set an example of doing her day job by dealing with border problems and other pressing national issues.

    Otherwise, she is playing with a fire that will prove easy to start and impossible to stop.

    Democrats are going to end up causing a shooting civil war if they continue on this course of action..

    And, since the Left is ideologically opposed to gun ownership, it's going to be a slaughter...

  161. [161] 
    Michale wrote:

    A report showing state Medicaid officials spent $63,000 giving convicted sex offenders erectile-dysfunction drugs prompts an NYPD detective to ask: “What’s next? Giving bullets to murderers? Pass keys to car thieves?”

    Shhh, don’t give them any more ideas.

    You really have to wonder what goes thru the so-called "minds" of Democrats... :eyeroll:

  162. [162] 
    Michale wrote:

    Fake news howler of the week.

    “We are in no way anti-Trump,” claims deputy managing editor Rebecca Blumenstein of The New York Times.

    Since you guys hate lying so much, I am sure you'll condemn Becky's bullshit claim..

    Oh, that's right.. You only hate lies when it's a person who has an -R after their name does it....

    Silly me..

  163. [163] 
    Michale wrote:

    WOW...

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

    In less than 2 weeks President Trump's approval rating jumped almost 2 full points..

    So much for Neil's claim that public opinion favors impeachment of President Trump..

    It's a Trump/America hater's wet dream.. Nothing more..

  164. [164] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Donald Trump has improved relations with every one of America’s allies.

    You will not learn that from reading the news. The prevailing dogma in the mainstream media reflects the Democratic Party’s revisionist propaganda, which obscures the fact that Barack Obama disrupted relations with our allies in an effort to appease Russia, Iran, and other enemies.

    But search the world, and you will not find any examples of allies with whom Trump has made relations worse.

    Do not rely on opinion polls. The public perception of the United States abroad is shaped by CNN and the New York Times, the major sources of American news overseas; and is also guided by foreign media and cultural elites, who are vehemently anti-Republican, if not also anti-American.

    Look, instead, at the relationships between governments.

    Start with Israel, where Obama made a deliberate effort to create “distance” between our government and theirs. Today Donald Trump is a hero to Israelis for affirming their sovereignty in Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. Israel’s Arab neighbors, including our Saudi allies, are also grateful for Trump’s backing against Iran.

    Or take Japan, where President Trump concluded a very successful visit last week. To be sure, there are differences between the two countries on issues like North Korea and trade. Yet President Trump and Prime Minister Shinzo Abe have forged a close friendship.

    Trump drove a hard bargain on trade with South Korea, but reached an agreement that benefited both nations, and has done more than any U.S. president since Eisenhower to bring peace to the peninsula. He has won praise from the Philippines for standing up to China, and from India for his willingness to cut off aid to Pakistan due to the latter’s support for radical Islamic terror groups.

    In Canada, Trump has feuded with Justin Trudeau — but also forged the new U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement on trade. And Trump has found new allies in a Latin America that is rejecting the left — in Brazil, Colombia, Guatemala, and elsewhere.

    In Europe, President Trump has restored our close bonds with the former communist nations — ties that Obama strained when he abandoned missile defense and allowed Russia to invade Ukraine. He has succeeded in increasing member nations’ contributions to NATO. In Britain, Italy, and elsewhere, Trump has made common cause with nations that are embracing the principle of national sovereignty.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/06/07/blue-state-blues-trump-has-improved-relations-with-every-u-s-ally-except-germany/

  165. [165] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are in love with abortion. Everyone has their fetishes. For them, it is the termination of human life in the womb. They celebrate it, they cheer it, and now they want you to pay for it.

    Since 1976, the Hyde Amendment blocked federal tax dollars from paying for abortions. It was never really controversial, while the parties disagreed on the issue of abortion, majorities on both sides agreed that forcing people with religious objections to the ending of a child’s life was not only wrong but immoral. Anyone so inclined is free to donate as much as they want to abortion providers, but forcing those with the First Amendment protected freedom of religion to pay for something in direct conflict with their faith was a bridge too far, even for Democrats. Now doing just that is a litmus test.

    Joe Biden swore his support for the Hyde Amendment was based on his deeply held Catholic faith. Always pro-abortion, the handsy former Vice President drew the line at forcing others to fund it. The core principle of his was tossed aside this week to appease the worshipers of his new religion.
    https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2019/06/09/democrats-and-the-death-of-responsibility-n2547805

    Remember when Democrats' mantra on abortion was "safe, legal and rare"??

    Now they shout about their abortions from the rooftops! They are so proud of their abortions, they made a hash tag to celebrate their abortions.. :^/

    How unbelievably sad that they are PROUD of killing babies..

    That alone makes the Democrat Party unworthy of patronage..

  166. [166] 
    Michale wrote:

    And now we bring you the Monday Morning political cartoons :D

    https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb060619dAPR20190606024534.jpg

    File this one under FUNNY CUZ IT'S TRUE....

  167. [167] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz060619dAPR20190606084512.jpg

    Of course.. No one could be THAT stoopid... :^/

  168. [168] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb060519dAPR20190605054505.jpg

    Think of all the crimes that Hillary and Obama are guilty of..

    After all, there was NO EVIDENCE that they were innocent, so obviously they are guilty of ALL of it.

    Democrat "logic"

  169. [169] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/IMG-597320190605122522.jpg

    Yep.. Democrats LOVE "science"... When it suits their agenda...

    But when REAL science says something that's against the Democrat Party agenda??

    Then science is silenced...

  170. [170] 
    Michale wrote:
  171. [171] 
    Michale wrote:
  172. [172] 
    Michale wrote:

    JM

    The flag is the VERY symbol of DIVERSITY and INCLUSION because it was DESIGNED that way. The fact that it includes ALL the colors of the RAINBOW means it was to represent the beauty, the best, the diversity, of EVERYONE. Each color in fact specifically stands for and has its own meaning, including harmony, peace, and spiritual healing.

    Yea...

    https://theamericanguard.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/antifa-polizei.jpg?w=545&h=345

    "peace" "harmony".... Left Wing style.. :eyeroll:

    And yet you condemn the heritage of the Confederate flag...

    Yer such a bigot...

  173. [173] 
    Michale wrote:

    Gay Activists Threaten Violence

    Is the culture war going to turn into a shooting war?

    No one knows. But in light of what some pro-family advocates have experienced lately, the question cannot be dismissed.

    A gay activist recently used the Internet to suggest that a sniper target Peter LaBarbera, president of Americans for Truth (AFT), Illinois. LaBarbera’s home address was published on a lesbian blog, Pam’s House Blend, in January. A homosexual militant in South Dakota posted this message with it:

    “It’s [LaBarbera’s home] across from a park in an area with cul de sacs … Snipers take note.”
    https://chalcedon.edu/resources/articles/gay-activists-threaten-violence

    Yea.. The "peace" and "harmony" of gay activists..

    :eyeroll:

  174. [174] 
    Michale wrote:

    'GAY' HATE VANDALIZES CHURCH, THREATENS EVEN MORE VIOLENCE
    Note on bricks thrown through window: 'This is just a sample of what we will do'

    An unknown vandal or vandals threw chunks of concrete bricks through the school’s entryway with a message protesting the banquet, which was planned by Americans for Truth about Homosexuality, or AFTAH, to honor pro-family activist and author of “The Pink Swastika,” Dr. Scott Lively.

    Upon the concrete bricks were written the words “Shut down Lively,” and the vandals included a note theatening more violence if the church and school didn’t stop hosting such “homophobic” guests.

    “This is just a sample of what we will do if you don’t shut down Scott Lively and AFTAH,” the note reads. “Fuck Scott Lively. Quit the homophobic shit!”
    https://www.wnd.com/2011/10/356361/#7UTKf4tiYiFDGuBd.99

    Another example of "peace" and "harmony" and "tolerance" of the gay community...

    There are many many MANY other examples..

    So, please.. Cut the bullshit about the peace and harmony of the Gay Pride Flag.. It's a symbol of bigotry... Pure and simple..

    No different than how ya'all view the Confederate Flag...

  175. [175] 
    Michale wrote:
  176. [176] 
    Michale wrote:

    To complete the progressive fetish, the reason given for this push for federal funding is racism. “Poor women, especially women of color” are unable to afford a procedure Planned Parenthood says can cost as little as $350, so it’s racist. Condoms, birth control pills, and the morning after pill are significantly cheaper, and free in many cases, yet somehow these “poor women of color” somehow can’t afford that either. Could Democrats have a more condescending, racist attitude?

    Of course they can afford it, some simply choose not to. They can decide to have sex but not be responsible? Same goes for the men. They’re quite capable of obtaining any or all of these options too. If you can’t, or won’t, why bother when the government is there to offer to “clean up” for your mistakes?

    Abortion is a much more complicated issue than I can lay out here, and so are all the other ways in which the political left offers absolution from responsibility. But there is a constant: If you remove consequences from an action you will get more of it. As drug use has been legalized or decriminalized, the streets of liberal cities have devolved into minefields of needles and human feces.

    Remove the threat of enforcement of immigration laws and you get ever-growing waves of illegal aliens. Remove punishment for states and localities defying federal immigration laws and you get sanctuaries from coast to coast. Remove the repercussions of bad life choices and you get more people looking to the government to absolve them of everything else.

    Insulation from consequences perverts the soul. The Democratic Party is offering blanket absolution; If your life is not what you think it should be, it’s not a result of the choices you’ve made or actions you’ve taken, it’s the system that’s rigged against you. But don’t worry, the people in positions of power who’ve created the system are there to bless you with promises of more -- only this time it’ll work.

    The fact remains that, with very rare exceptions, if people want to point the finger of blame at the cause of most of their hardships and problems then they need only find the nearest reflective surface. No amount of pandering, flip-flopping, taxpayer money, or political promises is ever going to change that.
    https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2019/06/09/democrats-and-the-death-of-responsibility-n2547805

    This hits the nail on the head..

    The entirety of the Democrat Party platform is evading responsibility..

    There are no adverse consequences for one's actions..

    Nothing is ever the fault of the individual.. It's always the system..

    Democrats can "fix" it... But if we allow Democrats to try, then the US becomes Venezuela.... :^/

  177. [177] 
    Michale wrote:

    Constitutional Oversight? Or Unconstitutional Overreach?

    Ronald Reagan often said, “The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.”

    That seems to be the case — in spades — when it comes to their own importance. Unfortunately, as I’ve pointed out before, conservatives often accept liberal untruths without the proper level of scrutiny and skepticism.

    Witness the current “accepted truth” that Congress has constitutional authority to exercise “oversight” on President Trump and his administration. Everyone says it and, in fact, the courts have granted Congress such oversight powers, but they are not found in the Constitution.

    The fact of the matter is that under our constitutional system of checks and balances, the presidency has a certain independence from the Congress, just as Congress has a certain amount of independence from the president. Presidential independence is usually called executive privilege.

    In the current confrontation, Congress has issued numerous subpoenas to either force testimony from executive office employees (including the president’s former lawyer Don McGahn) or to obtain documents such as the private tax returns of citizen Donald Trump or the underlying evidence that Special Counsel Mueller obtained in his two-year investigation. There is substantial reason to believe that most if not all of those subpoenas violate executive privilege, yet Democrats have publicly declared that the president’s legal defense of his privacy and his presidency amounts to a coverup.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/06/10/constitutional_oversight_or_unconstitutional_overreach_140520.html

    This is the Democrat problem in spades..

    They are NOT executing legitimate oversight..

    They are on a witch hunt.. President Trump and the American people tolerated it ONCE with the Mueller Witch Hunt that produced absolutely NO witches.. Oh sure.. It bagged a couple ogres and some elfs and some snarks and grumkins.. But not a SINGLE witch was discovered, despite all the time in the world, an UNLIMITED expense account and a team of die-hard Hillary sycohpant Dumbocrats who had a HUGE incentive to find something.. ANYTHING...

    And they came up empty...

    NO EVIDENCE to support Russia collusion..

    And only process crimes to support obstruction.. Crimes that were CAUSED by the investigation.. Not any criminal activity in and of itself...

    So, basically Dumbocrats want to start ANOTHER witch hunt..

    And President Trump and patriotic Americans are saying ENOUGH..

    Ya'all had yer shot and you couldn't find squat.. No more..

    "THIS FAR!! NO FARTHER!!!"
    -Captain Jean Luc Picard

    Do your jobs and fix the problem the country has or else ya'all will be out of a job in Nov of 2020....

  178. [178] 
    Michale wrote:

    The 2020 News Cycle Will Look Very Different

    The Russia collusion narrative and associated Robert Mueller hysteria are all but over.

    Mueller’s obstruction of justice narrative involving the non-crime of collusion is ending, too.

    Donald Trump’s tax-return psychodrama is going the way of the Emoluments Clause, the Logan Act, the 25th Amendment and the comical in-house coup attempt of former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

    What takes the place of Mueller and “the noose is tightening” bombshells? Perhaps the new narratives involving Inspector General Michael Horowitz and FISA abuse, or Attorney General William Barr’s investigation into the origins of the Russia collusion probe—far quieter, far more serious.

    The media for three years obsessed over a false “Trump did it” story. But in the next 17 months, the storyline may change from the myth of the “walls are closing in” on the president to the reality that Obama-era officials committed serial felonies—from perjury and lying to federal officials, to leaking classified documents, spying illegally on a political campaign, deceiving a FISA court, and obstructing justice.
    https://amgreatness.com/2019/06/09/new-narratives-in-2020/

    As I said, it's going to be a wild ride in the run up to Nov 2020...

    Oh sure.. We'll hear Dumbocrats impotently bleat about Russia Collusion and obstruction, even though those issues are settled.. They'll whine and cry and stamp their feet and hold their breath because they can't get anyone to testify and they can't get President Trump's tax returns and they can't get Grand Jury minutes denied to Dumbocrats by a law created by... you guessed it.. DUMBOCRATS!!

    But what will drown out the impotent bleating and whining is the very real and very factual narrative of the incompetence and malfeasance and outright criminality of Odumbo and his band of merry miscreants..

    By the time Nov 2020 rolls around, Dumbocrats will be lucky to be elected county dog catcher......

    It's gonna be a wild ride.. better hold on tight.. :D

  179. [179] 
    Michale wrote:

    For those who claim that Pennsylvania is going to go back to blue???

    SCRANTON COUNCIL PRESIDENT: DEMOCRATS ARE ON TRACK TO LOSE PENNSYLVANIA — AGAIN

    In 1932, Franklin D. Roosevelt and other Democrats swept into power in a landslide largely because they championed working class issues. Yet in 2016, fortunes weren’t so good for Roosevelt’s party, as Republican Donald Trump won a historically high number of working-class and pro-labor voters, propelling him to the presidency.

    I saw this shift on the ground here in Pennsylvania, a state which hadn’t voted Republican in decades, yet went for Mr. Trump in 2016.

    Lackawanna County (where I serve as president of Scranton City Council) is a good case study in what happened. President Obama won it with more than 63 percent in 2012, yet Hillary Clinton got barely 50 percent. The reason? Donald Trump focused on the issues that matter to this community, such as the loss of manufacturing jobs. Many people felt ignored by Mrs. Clinton – including me, a Democrat that voted for Donald Trump.

    For Democrats to win over voters like me, they need to return to their roots and, as many top labor unions are urging, restore the party’s focus to kitchen table economics and the key issues that affect so many working-class Americans.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/07/rogan-scranton-pennsylvania/

    The FACTS say otherwise... :D

  180. [180] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Media Press Dems for Impeachment Porn

    House Democrats dither while the press demands clicks and eyeballs.

    On a sunny afternoon in 2010 a man stepped through the window of his San Francisco apartment onto a ledge, looked at the street below, and saw a cheering crowd taking cell phone videos while yelling: “Jump! Jump! Jump!” His death was collecting clicks on the web within seconds. This unsettling episode provides a grisly metaphorical glimpse at the motivation of the media as they continue to peddle impeachment. They know it would be political suicide for the Democrats because only a minority of voters supports removing the President, yet they crave the countless clicks and eyeballs the circus would inevitably produce.

    But the Democratic leadership, their antipathy for the President notwithstanding, is loath to take the leap just to provide impeachment porn for the media. Consequently, even as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi throws red meat to the far left by saying she wants to see Trump in prison, she knows the majority of House Democrats regard a mere impeachment inquiry as very risky. The number in favor of this course is about a fourth of their 235-member caucus. Thus, when Pelosi peers down at the ravening crowd of journalists yelling “jump,” she knows the media want that circus far more than do the Democrats themselves.
    https://spectator.org/the-media-press-dems-for-impeachment-porn/

    Pelosi (and apparently ya'all here who don't support impeachment) know that Impeachment would be a HUGE win for President Trump...

    But the chorus of demands is beginning to crescendo... I am betting that Pelosi (and ya'all) won't be able to hold out much longer..

    Dumbocrats and Trump/America haters *NEED* their impeachment porn...

    Pelosi won't hold out much longer... :D

  181. [181] 
    Michale wrote:

    Only a third of Independents support impeaching President Trump..

    If the Democrats go ahead with impeachment, which is likely inevitable, 2/3rds of Independents will vote Trump is 2020...

    Trump will win in a landslide..

    So, yes.. Democrats.. By all means.. IMPEACH...

  182. [182] 
    Michale wrote:

    Remember when I predicted that Biden's poll numbers would drop in the run up to the Democrat Debates???

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

    Am I good or what!!!

    Electability is giving way to Party Purity..

    Just as I predicted it would.. :D

  183. [183] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK.. I am going to take a break for a bit..

    Let ya'all catch up.. :D

  184. [184] 
    TheStig wrote:

    NYpoet-148

    Most of the Comment Section Regulars make well reasoned arguments and avoid rhetorical trickery. I may disagree with their conclusions, but I respect them. I would characterize you and Liz as blunt, not pompous. I am pretty blunt myself. Or pompous if you prefer. I think Kick and I have very similar sensibilities (volatility?).

    I am not willing to wade thru a thicket of comment blather generated by a few trolls and cranks. Life is short and scrolling takes a lot of time.

    Unmoderated or badly moderated comment sections get pointless and ugly. The old Huffpo is a cautionary example. YouTube comments are even worse....I never read them since read like 8 year olds talk. I dumped Twitter after about a week. We live an age of misinformation. The only defense is to avoid the worst neighborhoods.

    I can see how CW benefits from his hands off poliicy. It's audience feedback. I don't need to watch the sausage getting made. I don't consider debate a sport. So I block a few people who waste my time. At peak it is 3 people, but it's usually just one who is like having a goose on your lawn.

  185. [185] 
    Michale wrote:

    . At peak it is 3 people, but it's usually just one who is like having a goose on your lawn.

    . At peak it is 3 people, but it's usually just one who is not a Democrat Party slave like I am...

    There... Fixed it for you..

    "What can I say except 'yer welcome'.."
    -Maui, MOANA

  186. [186] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    So CW keeps repeating the same lies and I am repetitious because I keep pointing it out with a comment relevant to the article.

    It must be a real burden when my one or two comments interrupts the flow of the daily dozens of comments on the Mueller Report, guns laws etc. whether it's in the article or not.

    And at least I am not making false statements aboot other people's arguments, ignoring the response in the comment thread that refutes those statements and then repeating the same false statements in subsequent threads as if it was never exposed to be a false statement.

  187. [187] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    "Hey, [Don]! Take a break. You don't have to be a prick EVERY day of your life, you know."

  188. [188] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Hey, [Don]! Take a break. You don't have to be a prick EVERY day of your life, you know."

    "Maybourne, you are an idiot every day of the week. Why couldn't you just take one day off?!"
    -Major Samantha Carter, STARGATE SG-1

    heh

  189. [189] 
    Michale wrote:

    Not that I am saying that DH is a prick or an idiot..

    Just is funny, that's all.. :D

  190. [190] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's funny..

    If ya'all (NEN) spent a QUARTER of the time actually addressing the facts and reality as ya'all spend analyzing me personally...????

    Well, you might find ya'all don't get yer asses kicked so much..

    But it's understandable ya'all (NEN) don't... I mean, facts are facts and reality is reality and they can't be argued with...

    Hence, then over-abundant near hysterical attention ya'all pay to me, personally.. :D

    I get it.. Ya'all got a busted flush to my 5-Of-A-Kind... Hard to compete.. :D

  191. [191] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    What movie was that from?

  192. [192] 
    Michale wrote:

    What movie was that from?

    Which?? The STARGATE SG-1 quote??

    Or the busted flush v 5 OAK??

  193. [193] 
    Michale wrote:

    Did u know the state of New Mexico gives all illegals emergency welfare, no process like Americans go through. Handed an EBT Loaded with $1000, + $200 per child paid every month until their court date 5-6 years later. The Governor @GovMLG has a crisis and it’s costing Americans

    Would like to see a fact check on this..

    But, of course, the liberal MSM doesn't want Americans to know the facts... Unless they serve the Leftist agenda..

  194. [194] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You're not the only one who posts quotes around here, you know ...

  195. [195] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Democrats don't attack other Democrats. We calmly discuss issues."
    -ListenWhatYouHear

    Oh really..???

    Biden mocked by Dems for light travel schedule, Obama name-dropping: ‘This is a joke, right?’

    Joe Biden found himself mocked over the weekend for his corny effort to tie himself to former President Barack Obama, while also coming under criticism from other presidential candidates for skipping the biggest Iowa campaign event of the cycle so far.

    On Saturday, the former vice president marked “Best Friends Day” by posting a tweet memorializing his bond with Obama. He shared a picture of an interlocking friendship bracelet with both their names, under the caption: “Happy #BestFriendsDay to my friend, @BarackObama.”

    Some Democrats were baffled. David Axelrod, Obama’s former senior adviser, responded, “This is a joke, right?”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-mocked-by-dems-for-light-travel-schedule-obama-name-dropping-this-is-a-joke-right

    Seriously, Russ..

    You just HAD to know that that quote would come back and bite you on the ass..

    Because you know as well as I do that there really isn't any difference between Republicans and Democrats..

  196. [196] 
    Michale wrote:

    It’s true — San Francisco is a mess. And everyone knows it

    ooner or later, every San Franciscan is going to have to answer this question: Why is the best city in the world such a mess?

    The Washington Post is the latest to be on San Francisco’s case. It was once the Paris of the West. Now it’s “Too homogenous, too expensive, too tech, too millennial, too white, too elite, too bro.”

    Like a true San Franciscan, I read every word. Wincing. The piece is pretty much true. Everybody’s Favorite City is in big trouble.

    And everyone knows it. I heard from a woman who was one of the neighbors when I lived on 21st Avenue, years ago. She was a kid then and played with my daughters on the sidewalk — jump rope, games like that. “This is not the city I grew up in,” she wrote. “I will never come back.”
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/nativeson/article/It-s-true-San-Francisco-is-a-mess-And-13961833.php

    The facts are in.. San Fran is a shithole... :D

  197. [197] 
    Michale wrote:

    There is so much human waste on the streets of San Francisco the city formed a “poop patrol” where workers are paid $71,000 a year, about same as the average schoolteacher.

    Democrat governance at work..

    The people who hold the future of this country in their hands are paid the same wage as those who roam the city picking up other people's shit..

    :eyeroll:

    yea... Let's elect more Democrats to national office.. What could go wrong??

    :eyeroll:

  198. [198] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Not exactly sure how defending myself and pointing out reality in contrast to the fantasies espoused by others is being a prick.

    But as long as we're doing prick quotes:

    "You can prick your finger- but don't finger your prick."
    -George Carlin

  199. [199] 
    Michale wrote:

    heh...

    Now THAT was funny.. :D

    pointing out reality in contrast to the fantasies espoused by others...

    "I know, right!?"
    -FixIt Felix, WRECK IT RALPH

    :D

  200. [200] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Police Officer William Leahy
    Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Police Department, New York
    End of Watch: Thursday, June 6, 2019

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c1f544ea7b54a58eeb922b13ed887fee999c194c40e07aed62a98eda2ef6593.jpg

  201. [201] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Trump on Sunday called the New York Times “The Enemy of the People!” for reporting that a deal Mexico worked out with the administration that allowed him to pull back on a new round of tariffs on Mexican imports had been negotiated months ago.

    ?”Another false report in the Failing @nytimes. We have been trying to get some of these Border Actions for a long time, as have other administrations, but were not able to get them, or get them in full, until our signed agreement with Mexico?,” the president wrote on Twitter.

    Trump continued that Mexico for years had not been cooperative in talks about the border but he said he spoke to President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador and believes he wants to “get the job properly done.”
    https://nypost.com/2019/06/09/trump-blasts-new-york-times-over-report-on-mexico-deal/

    So much for the claim that Mexico agreed to these provisions a long time ago..

    The US have been pushing Mexico to agree to these terms for a long time..

    But it took President Trump's threat of tariffs for Mexico to FINALLY actually agree to the terms..

    Once again Balthy tries a bullshit claim that is easily proven false..

  202. [202] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Michale (197)-
    Another example of treating the symptom- not the problem.

    I don't know how many people are being paid 71,000 dollars a year to pick up poop, but wouldn't the money (and even a little more money if needed) be better spent providing bathrooms that are available to keep the poop they are picking up and the piss that they are not picking up off the streets to begin with, which is another reason you may be pointing this out besides just pointing flaws in the Dems?

    But this also raises another issue.

    It seems to me that picking up poop off the streets is not a job that Americans would be willing to do.

    But it seems if you pay Americans enough they may be willing to do some of those jobs after all (assuming the city is not hiring illegal immigrants or only legal immigrants for the jobs).

  203. [203] 
    Paula wrote:

    This is about right: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-06-10/bernie-sanders-might-not-be-a-viable-2020-contender

    Head & sub: Is Bernie Sanders Finished?

    Democrats like him. They just show no signs of wanting to vote for him this time around.

    They just probably don’t want to vote for him. What happened to the 43% of the vote he received in primaries and caucuses in 2016? Only a fraction of those votes came from dedicated Sanders fans – that is, people who really thought he should be president. Some of those voters wanted to push the party in a more liberal direction. Some thought they could send Hillary Clinton a message. Some just disliked Clinton. In short, it was clear at the time that a lot of Sanders votes were protest votes, and everything so far in 2020 confirms that he simply doesn’t have that many dedicated supporters.

    It’s worth noting, too, that Sanders really hasn’t expanded his support among party actors. He’s in sixth place in endorsements so far. At least this time around he has Vermont’s politicians in his corner, but he has the backing of only a single member of Congress from the rest of the U.S.

    I think when it comes to the most liberal voters, Noah Berlatsky has it right: “There’s nothing wrong with Sanders. It’s just becoming increasingly clear that, for the 2020 primary electorate, there isn’t anything overwhelmingly right with him either.” Is it possible for Sanders to win? Sure. Is he among the 10 most likely nominees? I don’t think so.

    My prediction was that BS would have a much tougher challenge this time due to the number of competitors and the range of positions they represent. That, combined with his/his team's approach of being aggressively nasty toward everyone-not-in-Bernie's-camp spells failure.

    BS (I think) gambled he could pull a plurality - that he would win by getting a bigger percentage than anyone else in a fractured field. Then Dems would line up behind him coz he was nominee and Dems want DJT gone. Therefore he didn't feel any strong need to reach out to people who are still angry at him over 2016 - he figured they'd hold their noses and vote for him.

    I would have (or will). But I don't think I'll have to.

  204. [204] 
    Michale wrote:

    I don't know how many people are being paid 71,000 dollars a year to pick up poop, but wouldn't the money (and even a little more money if needed) be better spent providing bathrooms that are available to keep the poop they are picking up and the piss that they are not picking up off the streets to begin with, which is another reason you may be pointing this out besides just pointing flaws in the Dems?

    San Francisco has some of the most medieval building laws in the country..

    A low income house costs along the lines of 650 THOUSAND dollars to build...

    The cost of building bathrooms and their associative upkeep would likely far exceed the cost of hiring a poop patrol...

    My point is, however, the FACT that San Francisco NEEDS a poop patrol is indicative of the failure of Democrat governance..

  205. [205] 
    Michale wrote:

    My prediction was that BS would have a much tougher challenge this time due to the number of competitors and the range of positions they represent. That, combined with his/his team's approach of being aggressively nasty toward everyone-not-in-Bernie's-camp spells failure.

    "being aggressively nasty toward everyone-not-in-camp"

    Sounds like it's an inherently DEMOCRAT Party problem. :D

  206. [206] 
    Michale wrote:

    NADLER BACKS DOWN..
    Nadler puts Barr contempt push on hold after striking Mueller report deal

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nadler-puts-barr-contempt-push-on-hold-after-striking-mueller-report-deal-with-doj

    I know Democrats didn't have the stones to pursue contempt charges.. :D

    And all they got was information that was already available to them.. :D

    Once again, Democrats get played..

  207. [207] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Okay, Michale … this was an easy one … the quote in question is from 'Platoon'.

  208. [208] 
    Michale wrote:

    Okay, Michale … this was an easy one … the quote in question is from 'Platoon'.

    Ahhh.. YOUR quote... Damn! I missed it!

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