Friday Talking Points -- War Is Over?
If you'll check a historic calendar (which is easy enough to do), you will clearly see that there are three possible days which could validly be celebrated as marking the end of World War II. They are: August 14th, August 15th, or September 2nd. The initial announcement of the surrender of Japan was made on August 14th, in Japan. Due to the nature of time zones, this happened when it was August 15th in America already. Then the formal surrender, which happened on the deck of the battleship U.S.S. Missouri, was signed on September 2nd. The president at the time, Harry Truman, announced the United States would celebrate what was known as "V-J Day" (for "Victory over Japan Day") on September 2nd. So that would be the most likely day you'd expect any subsequent American president to announce as a new semi-holiday, since it was when World War II actually officially ended. But you'd be wrong.
This week, Donald Trump announced that May 8th would be celebrated as "Victory Day for World War II." His proclamation does not even mention how the war continued in the Pacific for months afterwards. May 8th was "V-E Day" (Victory in Europe Day), when Germany surrendered, but it would take dropping two atomic bombs on Japan before the war was truly over. Which Trump has apparently never heard of, or something. As always, with Trump it's hard to tell what he doesn't remember from school versus what he never managed to learn in the first place.
In other idiotic news emanating from the White House, Trump watched a movie last weekend and has now instructed the government to reopen the federal prison on Alcatraz Island. This is truly idiocy squared (since it would be insanely expensive to do so), but Trump thinks it'd be a great idea, which is all that matters.
Speaking of idiocy squared, Trump's trade war lurches on with no end in sight. There were two developments this week, neither of which were all that promising. The first was a "deal" announced with Britain, which upon examination was not actually a deal but more of "the concepts of a deal" (as Trump might say). It is a bare-bones framework with lots of "details to be filled in later" parts to it. Trump announced the development but pointed out that his 10 percent tariff rate would remain on British goods sold here. This spurred headlines such as: "Trump Boasts Of New Deal That Triples Taxes On Americans Buying British Products," and also spurred some bad reviews from people on the right:
Conservative radio host and pundit Erick Erickson slammed President Donald Trump's newly announced trade agreement with the United Kingdom as "shitty."
"It's actually a pretty shitty deal" for Americans, he wrote on social media.
. . .
"First, they told us the 10% tariff was just a baseline for negotiations to get to free trade deals," he wrote on X, the Elon Musk-owned platform formerly known as Twitter.
"Now we're being told the 10% tariff is for keeps. That's just a tax on the American people," he added.
Meanwhile, the European Union (of which Britain is no longer part) announced retaliatory tariffs on $100 billion in U.S. goods, just in case they don't get their own "deal" with Trump. And even if such deals are reached, America is going to have a real hard time closing the trade gap with Europe, since American-made products are now being actively shunned or even boycotted all over the continent. Including Tesla cars, which are now seen as completely unacceptable to European buyers.
Of course, the biggest front in the self-induced trade war is with China. Which brings us to the second big development. Trump, for the past few weeks, has been sounding more and more desperate over getting the negotiations started with China, while China took a "time is on our side" hands-off stance. Trump hinted that the Chinese leader had called him up on the phone -- which China denied -- and that negotiations had started -- which China also denied. So late last week, the U.S. negotiators must have begged China to open negotiations, and a meeting this weekend in Switzerland was announced. Trump blustered that he would never consider lowering his 145 percent tariff on China just to get the talks started, which is precisely what China was demanding. But then lo and behold, today Trump announced that he was open to doing exactly that:
President Donald Trump said Friday that the United States could lower tariffs on China to 80 percent ahead of a meeting this weekend between his top aides and their counterparts from Beijing.
In other words, Trump blinked -- before the talks even began. Plain and simple.
Mind you, this is what absolutely needed to happen, so it is a positive development. While expectations for the talks are not exactly high, perhaps both sides will announce they are dialing back the tariff rates as a gesture of goodwill made in order to continue the talks later? Or maybe not -- time is still on China's side in all of this, and their initial stance is that all the new tariffs Trump has announced (or 125 percent out of that 145 percent) must be revoked before they'll even consider serious negotiations. So we'll see what happens this weekend, but it is notable that Trump is backing down first, since that's precisely what was needed to move things along.
The ripple effects of this trade war are already becoming apparent. West Coast ports have slowed to a crawl, since ships are no longer arriving from China packed with goods. Experts are still warning of imminent shortages in the stores, and prices are still going up. Parents, in particular, could get hit very hard (and not just when buying dolls or pencils for their kids). Small businesses are begging for relief, but Trump doesn't care if shelves become bare or prices go up (he's now preaching austerity, which is pretty downright laughable, considering the source). The supply chain has already been disrupted, and it is now just a question of how long that disruption will last. Will it be temporary? Will store shelves be empty for a couple of weeks or months, only to be replenished again at the end of it? Or will it be more long-lasting, if the talks grind on with no progress? While 80 percent is a lot less than 145 percent, it is still so incredibly high that U.S. stores still won't be able to sell Chinese products at any sort of reasonable price that people will be willing to pay. So even if a symbolic drop in the tariffs is achieved this weekend, it still may not forgo wider disruptions to the supply chain.
In other "Trump backs down" news, his nominees for U.S. attorney for D.C. and the surgeon general were both pulled this week, since they were headed for trouble in the Senate confirmation process. Ed Martin, the nominee for the U.S. attorney position (who has been doing the job on an interim basis) was doomed when Senator Thom Tillis (who sits on the Judiciary Committee) announced he couldn't vote for him. By week's end, Martin was literally being spat upon (on live television, no less) by passersby on the streets of D.C. Trump then retreated to the warmth of his Fox News universe and announced that Jeanine Pirro would take over the job on an interim basis. Pirro, astonishingly enough, has far more relevant experience than Martin had, which just goes to show you how low the Trump administration sets the bar for their nominees.
Trump fired a few people this week as well, including the head of FEMA -- who was fired for telling Congress in a hearing that he thought eliminating FEMA entirely wasn't such a hot idea. The agency is now being run by a peach of a guy (a "former Marine artillery officer") who has zero experience in disaster relief, and who introduced himself to the FEMA staff with: "I'm not going to start out by saying I'm honored to serve. I'm here to do a job." Charming, eh? He also announced that all disaster payments must be personally approved by him, which will slow things down in a big way. It's worth mentioning that hurricane season starts in three weeks, so what could possibly go wrong with all of this? We look forward to seeing him do a "heckuva job" (as George W. Bush might have put it), when a hurricane does hit.
A few months back, Elon Musk tried to fire some air traffic controllers, which resulted in a cabinet-level spat between him and the secretary of Transportation in the White House. The air traffic controllers' jobs were saved, but Musk still fired hundreds of F.A.A. employees, including those responsible for maintenance. It was also revealed that the F.A.A. suspended an independent panel that provided oversight of the nation's air traffic control system, back in February. Fast-forward to today, and Newark airport's air traffic control system seems on the brink of collapse. Again, who could have possibly predicted problems like this?
The moral of the story is: when you fire everyone who actually knows what they are doing and you replace them with bootlickers and ideologues and cranks (or you don't replace them with anybody), don't expect an optimal outcome.
Trump continues to lose in court, in case after case. Rulings were entered against him on his vendetta against a legal firm, his use of the Alien Enemies Act, flying deportees to foreign countries, and plenty of other immigration cases to boot. One judge ruled that the Trump administration had to get another prisoner back from El Salvador, while the woman who was arrested by masked and unmarked federal agents on a street for the "crime" of having written an op-ed article in her college's newspaper was first ordered returned to Vermont (rather than Louisiana, where the admiration had moved her in an effort to get her case moved to a friendly court), and then ordered released on bail. And more and more judges are less and less impressed with the "shoddy work" the Department of Justice lawyers are displaying in their courtrooms.
In other court news, the re-election of a Democrat to the North Carolina supreme court was upheld in federal court after the losing Republican tried to have upwards of 65,000 votes just thrown out, which is (as we wrote earlier) good news for anyone who cherishes American democracy.
Other good news: Trump backed down in his feud with the state of Maine, and has restored at least some of the funding he had been withholding in a snit. Looks like Maine's governor got the better of him in the end, which is a hopeful sign (for any other governors who might be contemplating standing up to the bully).
And we will actually end with some good news (continuing our title theme) that we have to actually credit Trump for (gasp!) -- the Houthi rebels in Yemen reached a deal with the Trump administration to stop targeting U.S. shipping in the Red Sea, in exchange for Trump stopping his bombing campaign against them. We'll see whether this ceasefire holds up or not, but if it does it will be good news indeed (for the safety of worldwide maritime shipping).
Senator Chris Murphy continues to impress, as he has become one of the most prominent Democrats in the fight against Trumpism. The Connecticut senator was interviewed this week by a conservative writer at the New York Times, and one piece of advice he had for the Democratic Party seemed to come straight from the Bernie Sanders wing:
I mean, what I argue for is that the Democratic Party should be more overtly populist and more pugilistic, more confrontational in its populism -- meaning that you are more regularly naming the individuals, the organizations and the companies that are screwing voters; that we might become more overtly antagonistic to tech companies; that we might be more willing to name individual health care companies and pharmaceutical companies that are price gouging; that we would explain what the takeover of our health care system by the private equity industry is going to mean for quality and prices.
If we did that, yes, you're right, we would probably lose some piece of our coalition. There would probably be a handful of voters in Greenwich, Conn. -- I'll name it, right? -- that would be unhappy with the way in which we were calling out and naming certain companies or certain industries that were harming voters.
I think the net benefit to the party of that kind of confrontational politics of explaining who's screwing you -- which is what voters want, they want you to explain who's screwing them -- and an opening up of the tent would net far more voters into the coalition than it would lose in a group of very, very wealthy individuals who were probably with us only because of Trump's ethical problems and social issues that they were -- that made them very distasteful.
Sounds like it's certainly worth a try, right? For his continued presence on the national stage shaking things up, Murphy deserves at least an Honorable Mention this week.
All the Senate Democrats helped tank a crypto bill in the Senate this week, in protest over Donald Trump's continued grift of anything he can sell to his followers. It is heartening to see Democrats achieve any sort of legislative victory these days, to put it mildly.
But this week we're giving the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week to some Democrats who, by their actions, showed some real leadership. The first two of these go to the city councils and mayors of both Salt Lake City, Utah, and Boise, Idaho. Both capital cities reacted this week (in advance of June, which is Pride Month) to new state laws which banned any government building from flying flags that weren't official U.S., state, or city flags. This was done by their Republican state governments, so the Democratic capital cities turned the tables in a rather elegant way:
The state measures were seen by civil rights groups as efforts to prevent the display of flags supporting L.G.B.T.Q. people. The City Council in Salt Lake City approved three new flags: one with the rainbow colors of the Pride flag, a second with the pink and blue of the transgender Pride flag and a third with a symbol and date referring to the Juneteenth holiday that commemorates the end of slavery. Each flag also includes the sego lily, a city symbol and Utah's state flower.
In Boise, the City Council designated the rainbow Pride flag and a flag promoting organ donation as official city flags.
"The City of Boise will continue to fly the flags on City Hall Plaza that represent our community and speak to our values of caring for people and welcoming all," Lauren McLean, Boise's mayor, said in a statement before the resolution was adopted.
. . .
Mayor Erin Mendenhall of Salt Lake City, a Democrat, said in a statement that the new flags promoted unity. "I want all Salt Lakers to look up at these flags and be reminded that we value diversity, equity and inclusion," she said, "leaving no doubt that we are united as a city and people, moving forward together."
These states may be deep red, but their capitals are still islands of blue, and it's heartening to see them stand up to bigotry from their own state government in such a way.
And another Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week goes to Ras Baraka, the mayor of Newark, New Jersey, who was just arrested while protesting a new ICE detention center in his city. He's been protesting the opening for a while, and has sued the operators (a private prison firm) for not getting the necessary permits to open the 1,000-bed facility. Here's the story:
Witnesses said the arrest came after [Newark Mayor Ras] Baraka attempted to join a scheduled tour of the facility with three members of New Jersey's congressional delegation, Reps. Robert Menendez, LaMonica McIver, and Bonnie Watson Coleman.
When federal officials blocked his entry, a heated argument broke out, according to Viri Martinez, an activist with the New Jersey Alliance for Immigrant Justice. It continued even after Baraka returned to the public side of the gates.
"The agents started intimidating and putting their hands on the congresswomen. There was yelling and pushing," Martinez said. "Then the officers swarmed Baraka. They threw one of the organizers to the ground. They put Baraka handcuffs and put him in an unmarked car."
Granted, Baraka is running for governor, but political stunt or not it was still a worthwhile thing to do, to draw attention to the mass deportations under Trump. Which is why we felt it was worthy of a MIDOTW award.
[Congratulate the governments of Boise on the city's contact page and Salt Lake City on their city contact page, and Newark Mayor Ras Baraka on his official contact page, to let them know you appreciate their efforts.]
Once again, we are happy to say that no Democrat personally disappointed us during the week. So we will return the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award to the shelf until next time.
Volume 795 (5/9/25)
We don't normally comment on religion, but we had to at least note the elevation of the first American ever to become Pope. Cue all the Chicago jokes you can think of... (best so far: Stephen Colbert ending his bit on the new Pope with, in the proper Chicago accent: "Da.... prayers").
And it didn't really rise to the level of an actual talking point, but it was so funny we had to include it anyway. For "Star Wars Day" this year ("May the 4th be with you"), Trump posted a ridiculously buff image of himself wielding a light saber. A red one -- which is the mark of the bad guys in the movies. To which Mark Hamill responded: "Proof this guy is full of SITH."
To which we can only say: "Nice one, Luke."
Republicans want to kick millions off Medicaid
This is going to be the most potent argument Democrats have, over the next few weeks (as all the budget battles get fought).
"Republicans swear up and down that they're not actually gutting Medicaid, but when you take a look at what they're proposing, it turns out that -- surprise! -- they're gutting Medicaid. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office shows how the Republican plans will cut benefits and cause millions of Americans to lose their healthcare safety net. One of the GOP proposals would mean 5.5 million people lose their coverage, and the other one would mean 'only' 3.3 million would lose coverage. And you know what? There are a lot of Republican voters among those who would lose their coverage. Next year, the Republicans are going to have to explain out on the campaign trail why they promised not to touch Medicaid but then went right ahead and gutted it. And don't worry, we Democrats will be pointing it out pretty much every single day."
Crony capitalism... or oligarchy
Gee, what a surprise!
"It seems that countries around the world are deciding to do business with Elon Musk's Starlink satellite system to curry favor in their trade negotiations with the United States. This is crony capitalism at its worst, folks -- pay Elon Musk a bunch of money and it'll help when you try to cut a deal with Donald Trump. In fact, it's exactly what Bernie Sanders calls it: oligarchy. Government of, for, and by the rich, period."
Let's review, shall we?
Trump gave an interview to Meet The Press last week where he showed some rather astonishing ignorance.
"Donald Trump has been sworn in as president twice now. And yet he just answered 'I don't know' to the question of whether he was required to uphold the United States Constitution? Seriously? I will quote from that Constitution, where it lays out the presidential oath that Trump has taken twice now: 'I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.' Period. That's the whole oath of office. And yet somehow the man sitting in the Oval Office doesn't know his most basic constitutional responsibilities? Imagine what Republicans would say if a Democratic president had ever said 'I don't know' to that question -- I mean, the impeachment proceedings would already be underway...."
Geographically-challenged
Hoo boy. You just can't make this stuff up folks!
"Republican House member Harriet Hageman just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is one of the dimmest bulbs in the entire Republican House -- and that's saying a lot, these days! During a hearing, here is what she had to say about Trump decreeing what maps should say: 'I think another reason why we should change this to the Gulf of Amexi -- of America versus the Gulf of Mexico is for over 40 years, the country of Mexico has been dumping raw sewage into the area near San Diego, California.' Got that? Hageman quite obviously has never seen a map of the United States in her entire life, since any elementary school student could have told her that San Diego is on the Pacific Ocean and not the Gulf -- no matter what you call it. Such ignorance is downright frightening, in an elected official."
Sounds good to me...
They do have a track record of blowing races such as these, after all.
"Republicans were disappointed that Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced he would not be running for Senate next year, since he probably easily could have beaten Senator Jon Ossoff. Instead, some other Republican will have to take him on. And one name keeps popping up -- Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's leading in the polling, at any rate. Although the same polls show that Kemp would have had a three-point lead on Ossoff, whereas Greene is currently trailing him by 17 points. So as a Democrat, let me just say: Go right ahead, Marjorie! Jump in the race! What could possibly go wrong, after all?"
Won't be for sale, ever
This is a great quote, since it is rare to see Trump get contradicted to his face (even from world leaders). The new prime minister of Canada, Mark Carney, met with Trump in the White House this week and gave remarks to the press. And he wasn't shy about (we can't resist) telling Trump to "Take off, eh?" about the prospects of Canada ever becoming the "51st state." Here's what Carney told Trump, right to his face:
As you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale. We're sitting in one right now. You know, Buckingham Palace, that you visited as well. And having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign, last several months, it's not for sale. Won't be for sale, ever.
Only if Trump retires there
Here's a good response to Trump's inane new bugaboo, for Democrats.
"OK, sure... let's reopen Alcatraz prison. Why not? Let's let Trump spend a bunch of money fixing it up and getting it up and running again. I'd vote for that -- as long as Trump retires there, of course, since he truly belongs in federal prison for the rest of his life."
-- Chris Weigant
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Cross-posted at: Democratic Underground
This is a, er, top shelf FTP, Chris!
All this Trump insanity only makes sense to me if Putin is pulling the strings.
I have to admit, I wasn't thrilled by these awards and points this week. Now, granted, that may be because the week didn't have a focus beyond the usual one that Trump is an idiot and a villain, as are his staff, people, and supporters.
But is it really a Democratic 'Talking Point' - basis for argument that the Democrats are better positioned for national office than Republicans - that a Republican representative is an idiot, geographically speaking?
Sure, it's fun to point out one woman's idiocy, but is it a talking point in a real political debate about America's future? One might immediately think of Sen. Fetterman's problems, or former Rep. Menendez of NJ, and leave these kinds of personal digs off the list.
As well, I'm not impressed by Mayor Baraka's ability to get arrested in a brawl with law enforcement over the ICE detention center in Newark. Skilled politicians can send messages to the public about issues like this, without getting cuffed, I think.
Oh, well. Your heart's in the right place, of course. And I loved the leaders of Salt Lake City and Boise passing city laws to make the progressive flags official "city flags" - exactly! That's how it's done. Most Impressive, indeed.
personally i think cities should fight back even harder. pass ordinances that require all law enforcement to wear gear that keeps their faces visible, and for all masked individuals to be treated as criminals until and unless they can be positively identified by local law enforcement.
pardon, all masked individuals who are armed. wouldn't want anyone getting arrested for trick or treating
All this Trump insanity only makes sense to me if Putin is pulling the strings.
Of course, there are absolutely ZERO facts to support the claim...
Com'on Caddy!!
The RUSSIA COLLUSION bullshit is SOOOOO 2016.... :eyeroll:
You hysterical woke progressive Democrats spent 3 years and over 30 million dollars investigating and then declared PRESIDENT Trump completely INNOCENT of all the claims..
You lost.. Get over it already.. :eyeroll:
I completely agree with MIDOW for the mayor of Newark. He was arrested for "trespassing", the cherry on top.
Democrats must RESIST in any lawful way possible, and when "civil disobedience" results in a headline-grabbing MAGA extreme overreaction, all the better. We should be inspired by the young Black people who politely requested equal service at Woolworth lunch counters; their arrest was another spark that lead to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
FTP1 is very powerful (I would have phrased it as "Republicans WILL kick millions of Americans off Medicaid TO PAY FOR TAX CUTS FOR THE OLIGARCHS"). Again and again, Democrats must remind American voters of the GOP endgame: kill Medicare and Medicaid, privatize Social Security, gut environmental, labor, safety, education, and health regulations, etc. because they are "job killing".
And as Sen. Murphy noted, Democrats must name names.
Granted, Baraka is running for governor, but political stunt or not it was still a worthwhile thing to do, to draw attention to the mass deportations under Trump.
Yer complaining because PRESIDENT Trump is keeping a campaign promise to the American people who, based on that promise, RE-ELECTED PRESIDENT Trump to a second term by an overwhelming POPULAR VOTE??
Do I have that right?? Your complaining because PRESIDENT Trump is doing EXACTLY what he promised to do??
"Republicans swear up and down that they're not actually gutting Medicaid, but when you take a look at what they're proposing, it turns out that -- surprise! -- they're gutting Medicaid. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office shows how the Republican plans will cut benefits and cause millions of Americans to lose their healthcare safety net. One of the GOP proposals would mean 5.5 million people lose their coverage, and the other one would mean 'only' 3.3 million would lose coverage. And you know what? There are a lot of Republican voters among those who would lose their coverage. Next year, the Republicans are going to have to explain out on the campaign trail why they promised not to touch Medicaid but then went right ahead and gutted it. And don't worry, we Democrats will be pointing it out pretty much every single day."
The claim that Republicans are covertly gutting Medicaid is a complete and utter fabrication..
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms the House GOP’s budget resolution, passed February 25, 2025, targets $880 billion in savings from the Energy and Commerce Committee’s jurisdiction, but it doesn’t mandate Medicaid cuts.
Medicaid, covering 72 million, accounts for 93% of non-Medicare mandatory spending ($8.2 trillion over 10 years), but the CBO notes only $381 billion is non-healthcare-related, making cuts not only possible without touching benefits but likely...
GOP leaders, like Rep. Andy Harris, stress a 25% Medicaid funding increase over a decade, focusing on eliminating fraud, not slashing coverage. DOGE at it's finest!! :D
Proposals like work requirements, per CBO’s 2023 estimate, might reduce coverage by 1.5 million, not 5.5 or 3.3 million, and aim to encourage self-sufficiency, not harm. Yunno... ACTUALLY making Americans PRODUCTIVE again.. I realize that the Democrat Party is the FREE RIDE Party, but you DO know that elections have consequences, right??
Democrat fearmongering ignores these nuances, exaggerating impacts to score political points while voters, per a January 2025 KFF poll, broadly support program efficiency.
Ya'all get that?? The AMERICAN PEOPLE *DEMAND* efficiency!
No more fraud, waste and abuse that was emblematic of the woke progressive Democrat Party under the Basement Biden/Headboard Harris junta...
"It seems that countries around the world are deciding to do business with Elon Musk's Starlink satellite system to curry favor in their trade negotiations with the United States. This is crony capitalism at its worst, folks -- pay Elon Musk a bunch of money and it'll help when you try to cut a deal with Donald Trump. In fact, it's exactly what Bernie Sanders calls it: oligarchy. Government of, for, and by the rich, period."
Is that the same Bernie Sanders who is jet setting around the country with a bartender in a fancy 15 THOUSAND DOLLAR **PER HOUR** private jet???
THAT Bernie Sanders?? :eyeroll:
"It seems that countries around the world are deciding to do business with Elon Musk's Starlink satellite system to curry favor in their trade negotiations with the United States. This is crony capitalism at its worst, folks -- pay Elon Musk a bunch of money and it'll help when you try to cut a deal with Donald Trump. In fact, it's exactly what Bernie Sanders calls it: oligarchy. Government of, for, and by the rich, period."
The claim that countries are adopting Starlink to curry favor in U.S. trade talks is nothing but spin.. The FACTS show that it was a strategic geopolitical move and had NOTHING to do with crony capitalism.
Starlink’s adoption by nations like Lesotho, India, and Vietnam, as reported by The Washington Post on May 7, 2025, aligns with U.S. interests in countering Chinese telecom dominance and has NOTHING to do with Elon Musk at all..
State Department cables show absolutely ZERO quid pro quo tying Starlink deals to tariff relief, emphasizing instead the need for reliable American tech.
Starlink’s 6,400 satellites offer unmatched global connectivity, making it a logical choice for countries seeking modern infrastructure. PRESIDENT Trump's administration push for U.S. tech prioritizes national security and economic leverage, and has NOTHING to do with any form of oligarchy whatsoever..
Sanders’ critique ignores that nations choose Starlink for its proven utility—evident in Ukraine’s defense since 2022and has NOTHING to do with Musk..
This is competitive strategy, not cronyism. Granted, ya'all aren't use to COMPREHENSIVE strategy since the Basement Biden/Headboard Harris junta had absolutely ZERO concept of ANY form of strategy...
The bungled Afghanistan withdrawal "strategy" proved THAT beyond ANY doubt..
"Republicans were disappointed that Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced he would not be running for Senate next year, since he probably easily could have beaten Senator Jon Ossoff. Instead, some other Republican will have to take him on. And one name keeps popping up -- Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's leading in the polling, at any rate. Although the same polls show that Kemp would have had a three-point lead on Ossoff, whereas Greene is currently trailing him by 17 points. So as a Democrat, let me just say: Go right ahead, Marjorie! Jump in the race! What could possibly go wrong, after all?"
Except MTG is not running in that race...
So, I am not sure the value of this Talking Point...
"OK, sure... let's reopen Alcatraz prison. Why not? Let's let Trump spend a bunch of money fixing it up and getting it up and running again. I'd vote for that -- as long as Trump retires there, of course, since he truly belongs in federal prison for the rest of his life."
Really?? For what???
FTP1 is very powerful (I would have phrased it as "Republicans WILL kick millions of Americans off Medicaid TO PAY FOR TAX CUTS FOR THE OLIGARCHS"). Again and again, Democrats must remind American voters of the GOP endgame: kill Medicare and Medicaid, privatize Social Security, gut environmental, labor, safety, education, and health regulations, etc. because they are "job killing".
Any FACTS to prove this???
No??? Of course not.. Democrats don't need no stinkin' facts..
And as Sen. Murphy noted, Democrats must name names.
If Democrats HAD names, they would name them..
The fact that Democrats DON'T name names is proof that Democrats HAVE NO names to name..
QED
This FTP in particular really brings home just how utterly unqualified most of these vacuous clowns in the Trump administration inherently are. What is it, like a necessary prerequisite that to be a Trump supporter, you have to fall all over yourself in praise of "Dear Leader" while simultaneously exhibiting you're thoroughly daft?
Take their recent cabinet meeting, which seemed more like an assembly of knee-bending ass kissers competing for the title of "Biggest Bootlicker" with their Trump-branded product-placed merch spread all over the place, and I could not stop laughing at Pam Bondi:
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Then she goes on to claim that Trump saved another 20,000, so by simple math that's 258,020,000!
How these reporters did not fall in the floor and burst out laughing, I have no idea.
Y'all got that fake news, media!? Three quarters of the total inhabitants of the United States all owe their lives to Donald Trump... so says the toadying bootlicking airheaded Attorney General, Pam Bondi.
Kick on [10]
Yes, that statistic was purely comical, and for some reason the White House press and media in general have skated over it. Just like Rep. Hageman's recent revelation that San Diego is on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.
You know: "We don't report Trump's lies and those of his people as lies, because everyone already knows you can't take them seriously..."
Do I have that right?? Your complaining because PRESIDENT Trump is doing EXACTLY what he promised to do??
Bullshit. He promised to deport the worst of the worst criminals first. Instead he is deporting those with no criminal record. Or in some cases criminal records that are decades old.
Is that the same Bernie Sanders who is jet setting around the country with a bartender in a fancy 15 THOUSAND DOLLAR **PER HOUR** private jet???
And how would you have them travel in the twenty first century? Should we refer to all politicians by their first or early job? Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in their mouth...
The claim that countries are adopting Starlink to curry favor in U.S. trade talks is nothing but spin.. The FACTS show that it was a strategic geopolitical move and had NOTHING to do with crony capitalism.
The facts would tend to say otherwise...
Trump has sat for only 12 ‘daily’ intelligence briefings since taking office
But has no problem finding time for golf. Seriously derelict in his duties or just a puppet for the schemes of others?
This FTP in particular brings home just how utterly unqualified most of these vacuous clowns in the Trump administration inherently are.
I am going to try and state this in the most non-jerk-y and nicest way I can think of..
Do ya'all REALLY think ya'all have even the SLIGHTEST shred of an iota of credibility in making that claim??
Considering.....
Joe Biden Is Sharp As A Tack!!
and
Kamala Harris is the most charismatic person of 2024!!!
I mean, honestly, people..
Do you HONESTLY believe ya'all have even the SLIGHTEST MINISCULE NANOSCOPIC smidgen of credibility???
REALLY!??? :eyeroll:
The facts would tend to say otherwise...
Yea???
Lemme know when you have some ACTUAL FACTS and not just WaPoop propaganda and drivel...
I'll be around...
Bullshit. He promised to deport the worst of the worst criminals first. Instead he is deporting those with no criminal record.
Not factually accurate..
And I am STILL waiting for you and JL to give me the name of ANY Illegal Immigrant Criminal that was unconstitutionally deported...
I am guessing it's like ya'all's claims that PRESIDENT Trump was a "racist"...
When asked for FACTS to prove your claim, ya'all folded like a cheap suit.. :D
Trump has sat for only 12 ‘daily’ intelligence briefings since taking office
Politico!?? :D
When are ya gonna have ANYTHING else besides woke progressive propaganda and drivel???
Michale
5
Of course, there are absolutely ZERO facts to support the claim...
Not to confuse you or anything, but his opinion was based on the ample commentary posted directly above it so there's a plethora of facts to support the opinion.
The RUSSIA COLLUSION bullshit is SOOOOO 2016.... :eyeroll:
So is the 2016 election, but that obviously hasn't stopped you from prattling on and on about it endlessly like a bleating troll with a repetitive repertoire, and by the way, MtnCaddy did not mention a single thing about 2016, but it's not at all uncommon to find your reading comprehension issues voluntarily expose your gargantuan dearth of knowledge.
You hysterical woke progressive Democrats spent 3 years and over 30 million dollars investigating and then declared PRESIDENT Trump completely INNOCENT of all the claims..
Not factually accurate, and that ad hominem slur you're hurling at him contains a false statement of alleged fact, so when I prove with ample evidence that you're totally incorrect, does that mean you're the "hysterical" one and also being a jerk? Or maybe an outright liar and also being a jerk? Or simply ignorant of a plethora of multiple-years-old readily available written facts proving you're (again) falsely equating being "completely INNOCENT of all the claims" with not being prosecuted despite all the evidence... and also being a jerk?
* Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election, Volume I of II
* Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election, Volume II of II
Pay special attention to the conclusion at the end of the two volumes that proves you're either lying or just ignorant of the facts:
You lost.. Get over it already.. :eyeroll:
You apparently cannot stop yourself from just being a general jerk and trolling commenters regarding issues they never mentioned. Get over it already.
Michale
9
Any FACTS to prove this???
You're trolling an opinion about how to word a Friday Talking Point! Duh.
No??? Of course not.. Democrats don't need no stinkin' facts..
Especially when they're just giving an opinion about how to word a freaking FTP. Duh!
The fact that Democrats DON'T name names is proof that Democrats HAVE NO names to name..
I'm not a Democrat, but I have a name for how you're responding: JERK!
John M from Ct.
11
Yes, that statistic was purely comical, and for some reason the White House press and media in general have skated over it.
I know, right!? Maybe just too much absolute toadying knee bending, ass kissing and boot licking to cover the sheer weight of it all.
Just like Rep. Hageman's recent revelation that San Diego is on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.
It's kind of idiotic from the outset to make an excuse for why Trump is correct to change the wording of a body of water from its actual name so I guess it should come as no surprise to any of us that Hageman's excuse is as totally batshit as Trump's name change. :)
BashiBazouk
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Trump has sat for only 12 ‘daily’ intelligence briefings since taking office
But has no problem finding time for golf. Seriously derelict in his duties or just a puppet for the schemes of others?
C. All of the above
Lemme know when you have some ACTUAL FACTS and not just WaPoop propaganda and drivel...
Well, The Washington Post will have to do since you seem incapable of posting anything that contradicts it...
And I am STILL waiting for you and JL to give me the name of ANY Illegal Immigrant Criminal that was unconstitutionally deported...
Which I am happy to do once you back up the claim all the immigrants sent to El Salvador are criminals. I.E have a criminal record...
Politico!?? :D
When are ya gonna have ANYTHING else besides woke progressive propaganda and drivel???
And yet still orders of magnitude better than you can seem to manage. Interesting that...
Michale
15
I am going to try and state this in the most non-jerk-y and nicest way I can think of..
Let me guess. You're either going to deflect to another subject as if that disproves my point when it obviously doesn't or you'll post your standard operational knee-jerk retort inferring "fake news" rather than even attempting to refute the claim because you're either (a) too lazy or (b) unable.
Do ya'all REALLY think ya'all have even the SLIGHTEST shred of an iota of credibility in making that claim??
First off, I'm not a "ya'all," and second off: Absolutely.
Considering.....
Considering you deflected exactly how I expected.
I mean, honestly, people..
Honestly? Okay, honestly: Deflecting to another subject altogether versus discussing the actual issue only proves you can deflect and got nothing else in the tank beyond being a demonstrable jerk.
Do you HONESTLY believe ya'all have even the SLIGHTEST MINISCULE NANOSCOPIC smidgen of credibility???
In case you missed it, the issue was Pam Bondi's lack of credibility and hysterical GARGANTUAN imbecilic toadying bootlicking and had absolutely nothing to do with any commenter here whatsoever.
Your standard operational deflection to insulting the intelligence of posters to CW's blog does nothing except prove you actually are an ultimate jerk... despite your pathetic self-described but wholly epically failing attempt not to be one.
Furthermore, you've demonstrably provided nothing in your response to disprove the validity of my post because there is obviously no way in hell that you can. In fact: Pam Bondi was being a toadying bootlicking moron but not before inviting the press to pay special attention to her ignorance.
In conclusion, I can provide you an entire transcript wherein a plethora of toadying bootlickers sounded like absolute morons, and there's nothing you can say that will change that fact.
https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-remarks-cabinet-meeting-april-30-2025/
I will, of course, be happy to highlight in complete detail more of the toadying bootlicking if anybody wishes to have their nose rubbed in it.
Widmer Josneyder Agelviz Sanguino
he's just the first name on the list of 238 venezuelans deported in March with no due process.
but according to the Houston chronicle he's got no criminal history. somewhere on that list there are around fifteen individuals who are in fact accused of major felonies. however, they're a small minority. and that's not even everyone; there are around fifty more from other countries, also swept up with barely even a pretext of criminal suspicion.
JL
happy mothers' day
JL
Bashi,
Well, The Washington Post will have to do since you seem incapable of posting anything that contradicts it...
So, what you are saying is that SILENCE GIVES ASSENT... :D
Which I am happy to do once you back up the claim all the immigrants sent to El Salvador are criminals. I.E have a criminal record...
YOU made the claim some aren't..
YOU back your claim up...
Since you seem incapable of doing that, my facts stand as valid..
And yet still orders of magnitude better than you can seem to manage. Interesting that...
In YOUR opinion.. But it's the opinion of a hysterical woke progressive, so it doesn't mean squat..
ESPECIALLY since you don't have ANY facts to back up your claims..
Remember, Bash... FACTS... Not links.. :eyeroll:
happy mothers' day
"HAPPY MOTHERS DAY ALL YOU MOTHER....!!!!!"
-The Choirboys
:D
Kick,
All you posted was a bunch of opinions that have no factual basis whatsoever..
But, as I said (and you have not provided ANY facts to refute) it's the opinion of a woke progressive who thought Basement Biden was "SHARP AS A TACK" and that Headboard Harris was "the most charismatic person of 2024.
As such, your opinion is worst than useless as you have not a NANSCOPIC shred of credibility. :D
JL
he's just the first name on the list of 238 venezuelans deported in March with no due process.
Not factually accurate..
First off, your ONLY sources are hysterical woke progressive Democrat propaganda rags and, as such, are useless for determining facts..
But, as to the ONE name you provided???
And... Per your OWN link....
Federal officials denied Agelviz Sanguino's refugee status and sent him to a detention center in Montgomery County.
There is his "due process"...
The ONLY Due Process that an illegal immigrant criminal with gang affiliations is allowed.. Says the SCOTUS
So, once again... The FACTS prove you wrong..
It's also interesting to note (and VERY interesting you failed to mention) that Widmer Josneyder Agelviz Sanguino was detained in Sep of 2024...
BY THE BASEMENT BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
So it was YOUR woke progressive Democrats who initially detained the illegal immigrant criminal...
PRESIDENT Trump simply finished the job and got the scumbag gangbanger out of the country...
So....
"Got any other ball busters???"
-Adam Sandler, BILLY MADISON
:D
Michale
28
All you posted was a bunch of opinions that have no factual basis whatsoever..
Obviously, you're not factually accurate, but thank you (again) for voluntarily providing the proof you haven't got a clue regarding the meaning of the word "fact." What I posted was a direct quote from Pam Bondi and additionally supplied a link to video evidence of the actual cabinet meeting wherein she spoke. The video and the quote are factual representations of what she definitely said, and I'm absolutely still laughing at her obvious ignorance. The look on JD Vance's face when she tossed out that 258,000,000 lives saved nonsense speaks volumes, and I still cannot fathom how the reporters and camera operator did not fall out in the floor laughing.
But, as I said (and you have not provided ANY facts to refute) it's the opinion of a woke progressive who thought Basement Biden was "SHARP AS A TACK" and that Headboard Harris was "the most charismatic person of 2024.
You've already established you're being a jerk, and I thank you so much for doubling down on that; however, a video of a cabinet meeting wherein the Attorney General of the United States absolutely invents nonsensical bullshit in order to toady in sycophantic fashion to Trump isn't merely an opinion; it's an absolute fact that was captured on film for all posterity (as well as hilarity). There is also no amount of your deflection and invented repetitive slurs and fake quotes that can change that fact. While you might not be able to control yourself from inventing bullshit, no one who regularly reads the comments section of this blog need ever to prove you're a pathological fabricator, especially in regards (but not limited to) the issue of your use of fake quotes. Your standard modus operandi proves nothing beyond your typical fabrication and invention, but it does not and cannot change the validity of anyone else's comments. Thank you (again) for providing more written factual evidence that you cannot stop yourself from being a jerk.
As such, your opinion is worst than useless as you have not a NANSCOPIC shred of credibility. :D
You might want to crack a book and reacquaint yourself with the lesson on when to use "worst vs. worse," follow that up with a peek into a dictionary for the spelling of the word "nanoscopic," and lastly see if you can find some literature than explains in no uncertain terms that "doubling down on stupid" has the effect of making you seem twice (if not more) ignorant the second time.
So, to recap: Posting your repetitive slurs and inventing fake quotes to deflect to a discussion of a commenter in order to defend Pam Bondi's toadying sycophantic cabinet speech does nothing whatsoever to change the fact that she fabricated a bunch of absolute nonsensical moosepoop in service to "Dear Leader," but you are definitely without a doubt shining a ginormous spotlight on the fact that it seems to be a trait that is shared by Trump Deification Syndrome sufferers and MAGA cult booklickers everywhere.
AI written response..
According to Weigantia "Suggestions", this is not a factual response and can be ignored..
But it IS funny to see hysterical woke progressives invoke religion and dieties..
Shows their level of desperation... :D
Er. Deities...
the denial of status and the deportation in that case were both done improperly, and likely illegally. the SCOTUS has not ruled on it in the case, nor any other court for that matter.
what passes for a counter argument to this reality is ad hominem against the journalists reporting the facts of the story, and unfounded assertions with zero legal precedent to back them up. you know this to be thee case and are blustering about it anyway.
on this point i agree with bashi, your ability to argue anything coherent has gone severely downhill.
JL
It was the Battle of the Bottle Blondes and Pam Blondi made a good push with her obviously illegal efforts to take it, but The Most Impressive MAGAt Dipshit of the Week has to go to Margie Three Names.
Despite the FACT that she would totally win, she has decided to not to run for the senate against Senator Ossoff. She says that senate Republicans are a bunch of mean girls for pointing out that she's an inbred hillbilly* from a gerrymandered district and she doesn't want to be on their team. Sorry about your luck Senator Ossoff.
* It's a little known FACT that the banjo player in Deliverance is Margie's dad. Now that I've told you, you'll recognize the family resemblance.
The denial of status was made by yhe Basement Biden/Headboard Harris junta.
So, if you have a beef with that, talk to those clowns.
Since Basement Biden/Headboard Harris denied the scumbags request, he was deported. Nothing illegal or improper about it.
As far as attacks on the credibility of the journalists.... Shirley , you jest...
Journalists have even LOWER approval numbers than Democrats... And THAT really says something...
As to the rest, it's understandable that you would feel that way.. since I totally decimated ya'all on the 2024 election and changed my posting style to ALL FACTS ALL THE TIME it's understandable why you don't like my posting style anymore. :)
This latest pwnage with your claims about illegal immigrant Sanguino is simply the latest example..
If you feel that strongly about it, simply block me when the new software becomes available. That way you'll never have to suffer being owned again. :)
Do you ever notice that you only seem to have a problem with ad hominemen attacks when they are directed towards woke progressive Democrats.
90% of everyone's comment here are nothing but ad hominem attacks against Trump and the GOP.
For some reason that doesn't seem to bother you at all.
I find that very fascinating.
So, what you are saying is that SILENCE GIVES ASSENT
So you agree most sent to El Salvador are not criminals. Or is "silence gives assent" a one way street?
YOU made the claim some aren't..
YOU back your claim up...
The imbecile returns, eh? See link that you were incapable of debunking two threads ago...
Since you seem incapable of doing that, my facts stand as valid..
Your "facts" are imaginary if you can not back them up.
In YOUR opinion.. But it's the opinion of a hysterical woke progressive, so it doesn't mean squat..
So, you have to dehumanize to rationalize your bullshit? Pathetic...
FACTS... Not links..
Links validate they are facts and not just imaginary propaganda...
Do you ever notice that you only seem to have a problem with ad hominemen attacks when they are directed towards woke progressive Democrats.
What about non progressive democrats? What about independents? Or are you so deep in to your political bubble that you can't tell the difference?
Yesterday, Fat Donny said that a total reset was negotiated in just one day of trade talks with China in Switzerland. GREAT PROGRESS MADE!
Now, the orange one is barely literate, a huge liar, and suffering from Alzheimer's, so I'll leave it to you readers to decide how FACTUAL his weasely word salad is. He may not know what the words "reset" or "progress" mean. He does say "I don't know." a lot lately.
Trump administration poised to accept 'palace in the sky' as a gift for Trump from Qatar: Sources
Corruption at levels never seen before. Not only is it gifted to the Trump library at the end of his term but we get to pay for it's maintenance and upgrades until then. Since the US government doesn't get to keep it, all the good stuff will have to be stripped out in three years. I wonder if the law will be obeyed and congress will vote on whether he can accept?
Michale
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AI written response..
Thank you for (again) proving you're a liar. I do not use artificial intelligence... never have and never will.
According to Weigantia "Suggestions", this is not a factual response and can be ignored..
It's a dead-on accurate factual response, but since you can't refute the validity of the contents of any of my comments regarding the nonsensical toadying bootlicking of Bimbo Blondie, you've gone and reverted to your usual role of board troll and chosen to attack me personally, and according to Weigantia "Suggestions," this is the definition of being a jerk.
Unfortunately for you, that standard operational bullshit you crank out in CW's comments section on terminal "lather rinse repeat" is not even good trolling and so obviously old it's growing crusty mold, and your newest line of prattling invented bullshit referring to the self-composed comments of others as AI isn't quite the insult you believe it to be, particularly since it describes your own comments in a hysterical self-own projection.
Michale
33
But it IS funny to see hysterical woke progressives invoke religion and dieties..
Not sure how you see any actual "religion" invoked in there just because I used the term "Trump Deification Syndrome" borrowed from CW, but if you think reading a comment you believe invokes religion is funny, then you've taken a giant leap to admitting my already proven point that it was knee-slapping comedy to witness Bimbo Blondi spewing absolute nonsensical totally fabricated fiction in sycophantic bootlicking fashion and treating a mere mortal criminal scumbag as if he was a god... while acting herself as if she was a moron cult zombie.
The Airhead Attorney General actually said (with a straight face) on live TV and recorded for all posterity that Donald Trump *uncontrollable laughter* actually saved "— are you ready for this, media? — 258 million lives."
I don't care what Party anyone belongs to, that political footage is effing hilarious... which was the entire point of my post.
Shows their level of desperation... :D
I know, right!? The Trump administration bootlickers and sycophants falling all over themselves to deify the Donald. *laughs*
John From Censornati
36
SPEW ALERT
I cannot stop laughing.
Michale
38
Do you ever notice that you only seem to have a problem with ad hominemen attacks when they are directed towards woke progressive Democrats.
Do you ever notice that you're the only person in this comments section that actually uses the term "woke progressive Democrats" like it's a slur with which to insult everyone and that you literally sound like a moron stuck on stupid when you use it?
90% of everyone's comment here are nothing but ad hominem attacks against Trump and the GOP.
Boo effin' hoo. Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaaaambulance for the Trump supporter on a left-leaning forum searching desperately to find himself some MAGA cult worship. *laughs*
I suggest you watch the entirety of that last (alleged) cabinet meeting wherein they were falling all over themselves in what appeared to me to be a contest to determine "Biggest Bootlicker" wherein Bimbo Blondi ran away with the title, but they all left with some lovely parting gifts in the form of MAGA cult merch.
Tune in next cabinet meeting when contestants will compete for a bastardized bible printed in China (signature sold separately).
Well, Lame Donold Duck is accepting a bribe from the Qatari royal family in the form of a tacky gilded jumbo jet he can use as Air Liberace One. Qatar is HAMAS command central. Something about this seems worse than writing an op-ed or holding a protest sign.
A jet he will likely never fly on. It's not the gold leaf that makes Air Force One, it's the classified defensive counter measures and absolutely secure communications. Ripping the plane completely apart to make sure there are no bugs then adding all the counter measures, secure communications equipment and other gear will likely take longer than his term. There is a reason the two replacements in the pipeline take a decade to build...
Short Fingers thinks he can wave his Fairy God Mother magic wand and lower the price of pharma to rock bottom. Why hasn't anybody else thought of that?
Yep I sure am glad I wasn’t eating anything when I rolled through these comments just now.
Lather, rinse & repeat Michale isn’t offering me anything new whatsoever. So I’m back to scrolling through his blather.
Wait, what!? A flying palace gift, I mean grift, for President Scumbag Con.
First off, can y'all imagine the shitstorm that would emanate from Congress if President Obama had ever even stepped foot on a jet like this from the Emirates, let alone accepting it as a grift he was going to keep for himself after leaving office?
So let me get this straight, from reading Bashi's link various other assorted sources, it appears Airhead General Bimbo Blondi has written a legal memorandum delivered to the White House explaining how this is all perfectly legal with nary a little problem like that pesky old Constitution.
The grift is a 13-year-old Boeing 747-8 because apparently nothing says "America First" like accepting a hand-me-down jumbo jet from His Highness Sheikh Mohammed.
So much for combating "waste, fraud and abuse." It's always the grift with old Don the Con.
BashiBazouk
48
Ripping the plane completely apart to make sure there are no bugs then adding all the counter measures, secure communications equipment and other gear will likely take longer than his term.
Aw, come on, Bashi... you're kidding, right?
It's a product of Boeing; what could possibly go wrong? ;)
maybe part of the problem is not really understanding the difference between an ad hominem argument and a garden variety insult.
MtnCaddy on [50]
Right. What if no one - despite the provocation, despite the need to prove error and falsehood, despite the call to answer an endless string of extended posts filled with BS, as I understand it from the responses I see - what if no one EVER answered or responded to our resident troll's posts?
JUST DIDN'T ANSWER?
STUCK TO CHRIS' POSTS' POINTS - or said nothing at all if Chris' stuff was boilerplate (as it sometimes is)?
Would that improve this forum, or not? Just askin'.
JMCt
54
I’ve been calling for don’t feed the troll for a couple of years now, but most of Weigantia fall for his tricks and he therefore gets the attention he craves. I think this guy has a mental issue, what with his maturity level of an 8th Grader.
I am certain that if no one whatsoever engaged with him he’d be gone.
JMCT,
Right. What if no one - despite the provocation, despite the need to prove error and falsehood, despite the call to answer an endless string of extended posts filled with BS, as I understand it from the responses I see - what if no one EVER answered or responded to our resident troll's posts?
JUST DIDN'T ANSWER?
You DO realize that you and Caddy are doing the EXACT same thing you are advising everyone else NOT to do, right??
I mean, how good can your advice be if you both can't even follow it yourselves??
You see what I am saying???
Caddy,
I am certain that if no one whatsoever engaged with him he’d be gone.
Yea... But you were ALSO "certain" that Headboard Harris was going to be our next POTUS and that PRESIDENT Trump was going to jail..
So, let's just say that you are really REALLY lacking in the credibility department.. :D
JL,
maybe part of the problem is not really understanding the difference between an ad hominem argument and a garden variety insult.
First off, you are talking about a distinction without any real difference..
Secondly, the ENTIRE problem is that you refuse to face the objective reality..
Democrats are lost in the political wilderness. And that is where they will remain until such time as they take a really long look in the mirror and address the REAL reasons why they go slaughtered so bad in 2024...
Until they (and ya'all, incidentally) are able to do that they (and ya'all) will lack ANY real shred of credibility...
case in point.
Thank you.. :D
John From Censornati
49
Short Fingers thinks he can wave his Fairy God Mother magic wand and lower the price of pharma to rock bottom.
Reminds me of that time Fat Donny waved his Fairy Godfather magic wand and demanded 10% (or higher) import taxes on global nations. So is this "rock bottom" before or after the Trump Tariff Taxes are factored into the price paid by consumers?
I believe something similar to this "MNF" drug pricing was shut down in a Court of law on procedural grounds because it's the function of Congress/We the People and not a wannabe dictator.
Looks like China folded and PRESIDENT Trump AND Americans win again!!! :D
PRESIDENT Trump’s awesome tariff strategy forced China to blink when he secured a landmark trade deal that levels the playing field for American workers.
Starting with a 10% tariff on Chinese imports on February 1, 2025, PRESIDENT Trump escalated to a 145% tariff by April 8, citing unfair trade practices, IP thefts and fentanyl concerns.
China retaliated with 125% tariffs, but the huge decimation on China's economy (factory activity at its worst since December 2023 as shown in BLOOMBERG) forced Beijing to the negotiating table.
On May 12, 2025, a 90-day deal slashed U.S. tariffs to 30% and China’s to 10%, with China exempting $40 billion in U.S. goods, including pharmaceuticals. These facts are per NY SLIMES.
This historic agreement, announced after Geneva talks, commits China to curb fentanyl precursors and buy more U.S. goods, addressing PRESIDENT Trump’s trade deficit concerns.
The deal retains pre-April 2025 tariffs, ensuring a baseline 10% tariff to protect domestic production, as outlined in a White House fact sheet.
PRESIDENT Trump’s pressure on China and separate deals with over 75 other countries, isolated China and devastated China's economy
PRESIDENT Trump's awesome tariff strategy delivered a huge win for America’s economy and Americans...
This historic deal PROVED that PRESIDENT Trump's AMERICA FIRST approach works and works quite well..
Sources for the above facts:
NY SLIMES
BLOOMBERG NEWS
So, uh, basically what we're doing is "equilizing;" there's a new word that I came up with, which I think is probably the best word.
*laughs*
Granted, Baraka is running for governor, but political stunt or not it was still a worthwhile thing to do, to draw attention to the mass deportations under Trump. Which is why we felt it was worthy of a MIDOTW award.
SO, basically you are saying that this Baraka moron is above the law..
This is not as surprising as it should be, eh?? :eyeroll:
which I think
No, you don't... Trust me on this.. You don't.. :D
Michale
56
You DO realize that you and Caddy are doing the EXACT same thing you are advising everyone else NOT to do, right??
Your reading comprehension issues are confusing commenters talking about you with them talking to you, and as such that is your ever-present false equivalency and your reading comprehension and credibility issues.
I mean, how good can your advice be if you both can't even follow it yourselves??
Them commenting about you isn't the same thing as responding to you, and if you believe it's the EXACT same thing, then you have credibility issues.
You see what I am saying???
I see you cannot tell the difference between responding to you and commenting about you, and I see you think they're exactly the same which calls into question your credibility.
Yea... But you were ALSO "certain" that Headboard Harris was going to be our next POTUS and that PRESIDENT Trump was going to jail..
Yeah, but you think talking about you and talking to you are the same thing.
So, let's just say that you are really REALLY lacking in the brains department and in the credibility department.
Sources for the above facts:
Sources have links. Or are you afraid we see what the articles really say?
On the opposite end of the spectrum:
Markets Celebrate Total Trump Surrender on Signature Policy
I put about as much stock in The Daily Beast as I do with Michale's ravings but it's a humorous counter point with reality being somewhere in between...
Speaking of the blatant hypocrisy of Democrats celebrating morons who are "above the law"....
Woke progressive Democrat hypocrisy is blatant and glaring as Reps. LaMonica McIver, Bonnie Watson Coleman, and Rob Menendez brazenly stormed the Delaney Hall ICE Detention Center in Newark, New Jersey, on May 9, 2025, alongside Mayor Ras Baraka, who was arrested for trespassing.
Homeland Security Agents' bodycam footage shows McIver assaulting Law Enforcement and shoving past agents, with Coleman and Menendez obstructing ICE operations, yet they claim they were merely exercising “oversight authority.”
Which is complete and other bullshit.. If they were actually exercising their "authority" they would have scheduled a vist thru proper channels.
This illegal and reckless stunt, endangering agents and detainees, contradicts the woke progressive Democrat mantra that “no one is above the law.”
DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin warned arrests are likely pending for assaulting LEOs, a charge Democrats dismiss as a lie despite factual video evidence that PROVES the charges..
The same woke progressive Democrats who sanctimoniously and self-righteously chant about legal accountability and yet turned around and celebrated lawbreakers during the 2020 BLM riots, where looting and arson were often excused as “protests.” Remember the "Most Peaceful Protests" was claimed with the backdrop of arson'ed burning buildings??
Figures like Rep. Ayanna Pressley glorified such chaos, yet now cry foul when ICE enforces laws against illegal immigrants, including murderers, rapists and MS-13 gang-bangers detained at Delaney Hall.
Woke progressive Democrats and their selective outrage, defending violent rioters while condemning lawful and legal ICE actions, exposes a complete and unequivocal double standard.
McIver’s claim of being “assaulted” by agents, COMPLETELY contradicted by video evidence, further underscores their whiney and hysterical victimhood ploy.
Woke progressive Democrats’ actions fuel distrust and prioritizes political theater over safety. And their CELEBRATION on Baraka’s trespassing charge PROVES the fact that hypocrisy is NOT a bug in woke progressive Democrat programming.. It's a feature..
Woke progressive Democrats champion lawlessness and illegal actions when it suits their ideologically based narrative, proving their “no one is above the law” rhetoric is factually NOT accurate and complete and utter bullshit.
SILENCE GIVES ASSENT
-Democrats
Sources for the above facts:
nj.com
insidernj.com
We bought a robot!!! :D
http://mfccfl.us/robot.jpg
Bash...
D Y O F R
Michale
64
No, you don't... Trust me on this.. You don't.. :D
In your haste to be a jerk and disparage a commenter, you failed to realize that was a verbatim quote directly from Dopey Donald, which is obviously why I laughed.
I agree he doesn't think, and apparently you didn't either.
*laughs*
"I am a liberal Democrat. I don't like the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, all right?
My argument is maybe these people are not worth the trouble. Maybe they should just go their own way."
-Democrat Guru James Carville
I hope the Democrat Party doesn't listen to Carville...
As long as woke progressive Democrats are part and parcel and running the Democrat Party, the Party will remain in the wilderness.. :D
President Trump over-performed his 2020 numbers by 3% or more in over 2000 US counties… Almost 2/3rds of US counties
Do you know how many counties Harris overperformed Biden’s numbers by 3% or more??
NONE… ZERO…. ZILCH…. NADA….
Per CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aV5g5K5yPc&t=112s
Pretty much says it all…. :D
Most Charismatic my arse!! :D
Yunno, it’s funny.. Ya'all whine and complain about <BPRESIDENT Trump deporting scumbag Illegal Immigrant Criminals without "due process" even though they get ALL the "due process" that the law allows them to have..
But then you had Democrats in Martha’s Vineyard deport HUNDREDS of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS to a US military base in just 24 hours without a SHRED of "due process" ya'all are perfectly OK with that...
Don't tell me, let me guess...
"That's different..."
:^/
It's uncanny that, when your Democrats are doing the EXACT same things you rake PRESIDENT Trump over the coals for.....
It's ALWAYS "different".... :eyeroll:
An epic fail in whataboutism.
When you say "hundreds" there was 49.
They went willingly to the military base on Cape Cod after being cared for by the residents of Cape Cod.
Many of the 49 still live in Massachusetts with a few on Martha's vineyard. The rest went to the cities they had planned on going to coming to this country. And because of De Santis stunt they have added protections for staying in this country...
residents of *Martha's Vineyard...
No citation whatsoever..
So, by your own rules, Bash..
It's all kaa-kaa...
Yawn.
US popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump’s return
Is this what "winning" is? Handing the world to China...
Bash,
Politico.. :eyeroll:
And not even AMERICAN Politico...
EUROPEAN Politico!~!
Your own link proves how wrong you are..
Europe hates the US... So, naturally, they will lie about the US...
I have already posted the FACTS about how awesomely PRESIDENT Trump beat down China!
Europe is simply whining about how they have to eat sour grapes and crow.. :D
Who gives a flying frak about what Europe thinks??
Well, besides Trump/America hating woke progressive Democrats, that is..
:eyeroll:
Let's see how Europe would feel if the US pulled their security agreements.
Then Europe couldn't go down fast enough on the US!!
Europe is NOTHING without the US...
@m,
although your argumentation and reading comprehension still aren't great, I do appreciate that you're not filling up quite as much space with quite as poor language as before.
[59]Thank you.. :D
you're welcome!
JL
I have already posted the FACTS about how awesomely PRESIDENT Trump beat down China!
Are they facts or just your imagination going wild?
Let's see how Europe would feel if the US pulled their security agreements.
Uh...they are already acting as though Trump would not fulfill them if the need arises. So, no different than currently?
Michale
72
Yunno, it’s funny..
Prattling repetitive misinformation isn't funny; it just reeks with the stench of ignorance.
Ya'all whine and complain about PRESIDENT Trump deporting scumbag Illegal Immigrant Criminals without "due process" even though they get ALL the "due process" that the law allows them to have..
Incorrect.
But then you had Democrats in Martha’s Vineyard deport HUNDREDS of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS to a US military base in just 24 hours without a SHRED of "due process" ya'all are perfectly OK with that...
What kind of daft moron would falsely equate being moved from an island of the United States to another part of the United States with being deported?
Don't tell me, let me guess...
"That's different..."
You're just hysterically totally confused regarding what it means to be "deported" and as such are voluntarily demonstrating you have no credibility.
It's uncanny that, when your Democrats are doing the EXACT same things you rake PRESIDENT Trump over the coals for.....
It takes an uncanny kind of stupid to claim that persons being relocated in America are the "EXACT same things" as those being deported out of the country.
It's ALWAYS "different".... :eyeroll:
I think the problem is you are genuinely in a permanent state of confusion regarding the meaning of simple English words and are therefore really REALLY lacking in the credibility department.
Ron DeSantis was making a similar point about some people he took from Texas and flew from Florida up to Martha's Vineyard, like a scumbag human trafficker. His speech was full of misinformation regarding what happened to those humans that were actually relocated because Martha's Vineyard is an island that didn't have the necessary resources to take care of the unexpected persons delivered by DeSantis, and you apparently latched onto his misinformation like a maggot on a pile of horseshit.
JL,
I appreciate it... And let me say in return that your Trump/America hate has increased dramatically and that has drastically impaired your ability to accept or even logical and rational arguments..
But we learn to live with such disappointments and we move on.. :D
If you have any specifics on which arguments of mine are NOT valid....
"Well, I am all ears..."
-Ross Perot, 1992 Presidential Debates
:D
Further, I am still waiting for a name.. The one you cited was detained and arrested by the Basement Biden/Headboard Harris Junta...
Bash,
Facts to support??
No???
Figgers... :^/
I appreciate it... And let me say in return that your Trump/America hate has increased dramatically and that has drastically impaired your ability to accept or even RECOGNIZE logical and rational arguments..
BashiBazouk
73
An epic fail in whataboutism.
And Florida man false equivalency based on Florida man rank ignorance.
i don't hate donald, i just wish he'd quit ruining america.
i don't hate donald,
Call it whatever you want.. The fact is, you are irrational when it comes to PRESIDENT Trump and cannot logically assess his actions..
i just wish he'd quit ruining america.
Perfect case in point.. It was the Basement Biden/Headboard Harris junta who actually ruined America...
The Afghanistan withdrawal, the Southern Border, the murder and rapes committed by ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS, the Black Lives Matter riots, assassinations of numerous cops...
The list is endless...
Lemme ask you something....
WHY do you think that PRESIDENT Trump won with such a huge overwhelming mandate??
WHY do you think that PRESIDENT won the POPULAR VOTE by MILLIONS and MILLIONS of votes??
Was it because PRESIDENT Trump got so much better??? That he suddenly became Superman???
NO...
It was because DEMOCRATS were RUINING the country and the American people wanted it to stop...
You ignore ALL of these FACTS because your hate (or whatever you want to call it) for PRESIDENT Trump blinds you to the facts and the objective reality..
It took less than **90 DAYS** for PRESIDENT Trump to get the border under control... PROVING that the Basement Biden/Headboard Harris junta **LIED** when they claimed they needed Congressional help to fix the border..
What YOU call "ruining America" is actually nothing more than FIXING America, making it SAFER and MORE PROSPEROUS...
Making American's lives EASIER and more fulfilling...
These are the facts and this is the objective reality of the here and now...
But you are blinded by hate (or whatever) and simply can't recognize it..
Just like woke progressive Democrats can't take an OBJECTIVE look in the mirror and give an HONEST assessment of exactly the lost so bad... Why PRESIDENT Trump ACTUALLY won the POPULAR VOTE...
And until such time as Democrats can take the HONEST look in the mirror and realize, "Hmmmmmm... Maybe it's US!!" they will continue to lose and PRESIDENT Trump and Americans will continue to win...
"These are the facts of the case... And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN
Facts to support??
Tons...
No???
That's your game, not mine...
}}}Facts to support??{{{
Tons...
And yet, they are nowhere to be seen..
Don't tell me, let me guess..
You have a LOT of support in email, right??
:eyeroll:
You STILL haven't come up with a SINGLE name of an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL that was completely innocent of any crime and that was unconstitutionally or illegally deported...
THOSE are the kinds of "facts" you have.. Namely, NON EXISTENT facts...
:eyeroll:
You have a LOT of support in email, right??
Uh...what? You know this is a comment section of a blog, right?
You STILL haven't come up with a SINGLE name of an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL that was completely innocent of any crime and that was unconstitutionally or illegally deported...
You have a task to do before I answer. See [22]
}}}}You have a LOT of support in email, right??{{{{
Uh...what? You know this is a comment section of a blog, right?
You are obviously too young to get the reference.. :eyeroll:
You have a task to do before I answer. See [22]
If you are too lazy to retype it, it's obviously not that important and can be ignored..
So, do you have a name or don't you??
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Yea... That's what I figgered... :^/
We have to scroll down through your crap, you can scroll up...
So, do you have a name or don't you??
Can you defend your accusations or not?
Surprise not surprise: Deep cuts to Medicaid with millions of low-income seniors and the disabled most affected and millions thrown off for a net savings of goose egg with taxes increasing for millions due to cuts to Medicaid and the imposition of tariffs.
https://san.com/cc/house-gop-proposes-deep-medicaid-cuts-as-part-of-trumps-big-beautiful-bill/
Surprise not surprise: Deep cuts to Medicaid with millions of low-income seniors and the disabled most affected and millions thrown off for a net savings of goose egg with taxes increasing for millions due to cuts to Medicaid and the imposition of tariffs.
Except NONE of that has happened...
Just woke progressive Democrat wishful thinking and wet dreams..
Except NONE of that has happened...
Duh...it's a GOP proposal for a funding bill. I know, I know, reading is too hard for you.
One of the BIGGEST reasons Democrats lost the 2024 election is because of woke progressive Democrat support for trans issues and coercing children and their parents into transitioning...
PRESIDENT Trump's campaign add of "Kamala Harris is for they/them.. PRESIDENT Trump is for YOU!" was used far and wide to DEVESTATING effect on the Headboard Harris campaign..
Further information is coming out...
Woke progressive Democrats' and Nike’s silence on funding a study at Boston Children’s Hospital pushing transgender interventions for youth athletes is a shameful betrayal of vulnerable children.
OutKick’s May 2025 reports reveal Nike’s financial backing, confirmed by researchers Kathryn Ackerman and Joanna Harper, and a 2024 hospital magazine, for research on “transgender” youth undergoing puberty suppression and hormone treatments.
This coercive agenda, targeting impressionable kids, aligns with woke progressive Democrats’ radical gender ideology, seen in their support for policies like California’s 2024 AB 1955, allowing schools to hide gender transitions from parents. I mean, honestly... THAT alone is enough to make sure woke progressive Democrats NEVER achieve political power again!!
Nike’s claim to OutKick that the study was never actually started is a bold-faced lie and contradicts the hospital’s promotion, suggesting a cover-up.
Woke progressive Democrats, who champion “equity” over real EQUALITY stayed mute and enabled this exploitation while ignoring parental rights and child safeguarding.
The American Academy of Pediatrics’ 2023 review notes irreversible risks of early hormone therapy, yet woke progressive Democrats and Nike pushed forward, prioritizing profits and politics over real and actual science.
Once again... Woke progressive Democrat "science" vs real and actual science..
Woke progressive Democrats' refusal to address these concerns exposes a callous disregard for children’s well-being, coercing them into life-altering decisions.
It proves beyond ANY doubt that woke progressive Democrats put their hysterical anti-America ideological agenda before the safety and welfare of children and the rights of the parents of those children...
SILENCE GIVES ASSENT
-Woke Progressive Democrats
.it's a GOP proposal for a funding bill. I know, I know, reading is too hard for you.
So, NONE of it has happened...
Yea, that's what I said...
:eyeroll:
Michale
95
Except NONE of that has happened...
Not for want of trying; it's written into the proposed bill.
Just woke progressive Democrat wishful thinking and wet dreams..
The bill is written by woke regressive Republicans, and I would wager it surprises no one that it's their "wishful thinking and [psychotic perv speech omitted]."
If only the Democrat Party supported LEOs...
http://mfccfl.us/SupportLEOs.jpg
They wouldn't be in such sad, sorry shape...
Speaking of LEOs... :D
I have just been selected as EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER at my department.. :D
It accomplished what my lovely wife could not accomplish in 43 years...
I was speechless!! :D
And, once again, PRESIDENT Trump proves why Americans OVERWHELMINGLY voted him for a SECOND TERM!!! :D
Congratulations, PRESIDENT Trump, for your relentless efforts in securing the Southern Border and deporting dangerous illegal immigrant criminals, making America safer!
PRESIDENT Trump's leadership has driven a 95% drop in illegal crossings since January 2025, per CBP data, with only 7,180 encounters in March compared to Biden’s 155,000 monthly average.
A weeklong ICE and other FEDERAL OFFICERS operation in Houston arrested 422 illegal migrants, including 262 with criminal convictions like murder, arson, and sexual assault, and 229 with final removal orders.
ICE targeted violent offenders, such as a Colombian murder convict and a twice-deported Mexican felon, Hector Castillo-Garcia, convicted of aggravated assault and arson.
ICE’s “hub and spoke” system expedites deportations, with 80 Houston detainees flown to El Paso for removal in a single day.
Woke progressive Democrats, who ignored the border crisis, now face the reality of your indecision and incompetence.
While woke progressive Democrats defended criminals like Kilmar Abrego Garcia, PRESIDENT Trump prioritized public safety, deporting 142,000 criminals by April 2025, including 1,155 gang members.
PRESIDENT Trump's policies are a complete and utter triumph for American and Americans. His actions have restored law and order where the Basement Biden/Headboard Harris junta completely, utterly and unequivocally failed!!!
Keep winning, PRESIDENT Trump!!!
And, on a more personal note... Whenever I hear over the radio that ANOTHER Illegal Immigrant Criminal has been detained and will be held for ICE...
That ALWAYS puts a smile on my face and I hum...
"Boom... Boom.... Boom... Another one bites the dust..."
God I love working in Law Enforcement in Florida!!! :D
Apologies...
The sources for the above came from:
dhs.gov
ice.gov
nbcnews.com
pewresearch.com
pbs.org
bbc.com
npr.org
nytimes.com
abcnews.go.com
washingtonpost.com
Or is it the administration massaging the numbers...
And that's not how sources work...
POLITIFACT!!???
And from MONTHS AGO!!!
BBBBWWWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Aww right... I am OUTTA here....
It's been a real slice!! :D
See ya'all tomorrow....
PRESIDENT Trump's leadership has driven a 95% drop in illegal crossings since January 2025, per CBP data, with only 7,180 encounters in March compared to Biden’s 155,000 monthly average.
If half of the ICE agents who patrolled the border for illegal crossings were transferred to rounding up those already living in America, then the recorded number of unlawful crossings would be less, which would not necessarily mean that fewer crossings were occurring. If fewer people are patrolling for illegal crossings, it is reasonable to expect fewer people to be caught illegally crossing. We only know how many are caught crossing the border illegally; we do not know how many successfully cross without being caught.
Biden’s 155,000 monthly average shows us how much better ICE was run when he was President. Trump ruins everything he touches.
Widmer Josneyder Agelviz Sanguino has no criminal record, and had no deportation hearing. refusing someone refugee status doesn't make them a criminal, or a gang member, or anything else. you can't just redefine what due process is off the cuff, it's determined by literally centuries of precedent. if the government wants to deport someone they need to have a hearing in front of a judge to determine if it's justified. period. other illegal deportations include (but are not limited to):
Aguilar Rodriguez, Nolberto Rafael
Aguilera Aguero, Gustavo Adolfo
Albornoz-Quintero, Henrry
Alvarado Borges, Neri
Angulo-Aparicio, Jinder
Aray-Cardona, Jose
Arregoces Rincon, Jose
Azuaje Perez, Nixon Jose
Barreto Villegas, Rolando
Bastidas Venegas, Jose
Basulto-Salinas, Marcos
Batista-Arias, Elvis
Belloso Fuenmayor, Alirio
Benavides Rivas, Yornel Santiago
Blanco-Bonilla, Andry
Blanco-Marin, Angel
Bolivar Cruz, Angel
Bracho Gomez, Victor
Brazon-Lezama, Javiar
Briceno-Gonzalez, Jose
Briceno-Gonzalez, Jean
Bustamante-Dominguez, Robert
Cabrera-Rico, David
Canizalez Arteaga, Carlos
Caraballo Tiapa, Franco
Cardenas-Silva, Johan
Carmona Bastista, Yorbi
Carmona Hernandez, Jose
Cedeno Contreras, Bruce Embelgert
Cedeno-Gil, Andrys
Chacin Gomez, Jhon
Chirinos Romero, Wild
Chivico Medina, Carlos
Colina Arguelles, Rosme
Colina Caseres, Miguel
Colina-Suarez, Alejandro
Colmenares Solorzano, Leonardo Jose
Colmenarez Abreu, Aldo
Contreras-Gonzalez, Yordano
Cornejo Pulgar, Frizgeralth De Jesus
Corrales-Moreno, Emilio
Davila Fernanadez, Luis
Delgado Pina, Aldrin
Depablos Requena, Jheison
Diaz-Lugo, Kleiver
Duarte Rodriguez, Richard
Duran Perez, Joseph Gregory
Echavez-Paz, Leonel
Elista-Jimenez, Robert
Escalona Carrizo, Yender
Escalona Sevilla, Angelo
Escobar Blanco, Pedro
Escobar Falcon, Yolfran
Fernandez Sanchez, Julio Rafael
Fernandez, Yohan
Fernandez-Subero, Mikael
Flores Jimenez, Wilken Rafael
Flores Rodriguez, Jose
Flores-Lopez, Jose
Fonseca Daboin, Cristhofer
Fuenmayor-Crespo, Roneil
Garcia Casique, Francisco
Garcia Prado, Leonardo
Giron Maurera, Richard
Gonzalez Troconis, Julio
Gonzalez Frailan, Jose Leon
Gonzalez Fuenmayor, Angel Jesus
Gonzalez Pineda, Oscar
Gonzalez-Rodriguez, Charlie
Graterol-Farias, Winder
Gualdron Gualdron, Luis
Gualtero Quiroz, Deibin
Guerrero Padron, Keivy
Guevara Munoz, Wilvenson
Guiterrez-Sierra, Wilker
Gutierrez Flores, Merwil
Hernandez Carache, Yeison
Hernandez Carache, Darwin Gerardo
Hernandez Herrera, Edwuar Jose
Hernandez-Hernandez, Jhonnael
Hernandez Gonzalez, Manuel
Hernandez Hernandez, Angel
Hernandez Juarez, Yorby
Hernandez Romero, Andry
Hueck Escobar, Jesus
Hung Mendoza, Jordan
Hurtado Quevedo, Eddie Adolfo
Indriago-Alvarez, Donovan
Izaguirre-Granado, Randy
Jaimes-Rincon, Yeison
Jerez-Hernandez, Yohendry
Justo Garcia, Jose
Laya-Freites, Jefferson
Leal-Bautista, Keiber
Leal-Estrada, Kervin
Lemus Cagua, Diego
Lizcano-Basto, Josue
Lopez Bolivar, Jose
Lopez Lizano, Maikol
Lopez-Rodriguez, Geomar
Lozada Sanchez, Wuilliam
Lozano-Camargo, Daniel
Lugo Zavala, Johendry
Lugo-Acosta, Yermain
Machado Martinez, Onaiker
Machado-Rodriguez, Jose
Manrique, Edson
Manzo Lovera, Lainerke
Marcano Silva, Luis
Marea-Medina, Ronald
Marin Zambrano, Jhonervi Josue
Marquez Pena, Jose
Marrufo Hernandez, Uriel David
Martinez Vargas, Kerbin
Martinez Vegas, Rafael
Martinez-Borrego, Tito
Martinez-Gonzalez, Yohangel
Mata Fornerino, Wilfredo Jose
Mata-Ribeiro, Yoswaldo
Mathie Zavala, Hotsman Ricardo
Medina-Martinez, Alexis
Melendez Rojas, Edwin
Mendez Boyer, Alex
Mendez Mejias, Angel
Mendez-Gomez, Luis
Mendoz Nunez, Carlos
Mendoza Ortiz, Maikol Solier
Mendoza Pina, Jean Claude
Mendoza Ramirez, Jonathan
Mogollon Herrera, Henry
Molina-Acevedo, Roger
Montero Espinoza, Ervinson
Montilla-Rivas, Jose
Mora-Balzan, Jose
Morales-Rolon, Andres
Moreno-Camacho, Cristopher
Moreno-Ramirez, Maikel
Morillo-Pina, Luis
Moron Cabrera, Yuber
Munoz Pinto, Luis
Navas Vizcaya, Ali
Navas-Diaz, Obed
Nieto Contreras, Kevin
Nunez-Falcon, Luis
Olivera Rojas, Maikel
Orta-Campos, Junior
Ortega Garcia, Felix
Otero Valestrines, Luis
Palacios-Rebolledo, Leoner
Palencia-Benavides, Brayan
Parra Urbina, Eduard
Paz-Gonzalez, Daniel
Pena Mendez, Jose Antonio
Penaloza Chirinos, Ysqueibel Yonaiquer
Perez Perez, Cristian
Perez-Llovera, Juan
Perfecto La Rosa, Moises
Perozo-Colina, Carlos
Perozo-Palencia, Andy
Petit Findlay, Andersson Steven
Petterson Torres, Christean
Pineda Lezama, Jesus
Pinto Velasquez, Cristhian
Plaza-Carmona, Jonathan
Primoschitz Gonzalez, Albert
Querales Martinez, Anderson Jose
Quintero Chacon, Edicson
Ramirez Ramirez, Jonathan Miguel
Ramos Bastidas, Jose
Ramos Ramos, Juan Jose
Reyes Barrios, Jerce Egbunik
Reyes Mota, Frengel
Reyes Ollarvides, Ronald
Reyes-Villegas, Arlinzon
Rincon Bohorquez, Omar
Rincon-Rincon, Ringo
Rios Andrade, Jesus
Rivera Gonzalez, Luis
Rivero-Coroy, Jean
Rodriguez, Edwin
Rodriguez Goyo, Alejandro
Rodriguez Lugo, Luis Gustavo
Rodriguez Parra, Alber
Rodriguez Rojas, Kenlyn
Rodriguez-Da Silva, Fernando
Rojas, Deibys
Rojas-Mendoza, Miguel
Romero Chirinos, Ildemar Jesus
Romero Rivas, Erick
Roos Ortega, Jesus
Rosal-Gelvez, Hector
Rubio-Petrola, Jose
Saavedra-Caruci, Robinson
Salazar-Cuervo, Pedro Luis
Sanchez Bigott, Yorbis
Sanchez Paredes, Idenis
Sanchez-Arteaga, Fernando
Sanchez-Bermudez, Marco
Santiago Ascanio, Ronald
Sarabia Gonzalez, Anyelo
Semeco Revilla, Darwin Xavier
Sierra Cano, Anyelo
Silva Casares, Jason Alfredo
Silva Freites, Carlos Julio
Silva-Ramirez, Aaron
Soto Manzana, Omar
Suarez-Fuentes, Joen
Suarez-Nunez, Luis
Suarez-Salas, Nery
Suarez-Trejo, Arturo
Tapia Colina, Jesus
Teran Aguilar, Carlos
Testa Leon, Orlando Jesus
Toro Noguera, Yonel
Torrealba Torrealba, Yonathan
Torres Archila, Amber
Torres Herrera, Euder Jose
Torres-Polanco, Carlos
Tortosa Guedez, Jorge
Tovar-Marcano, Cesar
Travieso Gonzalez, Kleiver
Troconis Gonzalez, Yhon Deivis
Uzcategui Vielma, Carlos
Vaamondes Barrios, Miguel
Vargas Lugo, Henry
Vazquez Morillo, Nicola
Vega Sandia, Wilmer
Vera Villamizar, Wladimir
Villa-Montano, Enson
Villafranca Rincones, Carlos Eduardo
Villegas-Frites, Ilels
Yamarte-Fernandez, Mervin
Yanez-Arangure, Luis
Zabaleta-Morillo, Keiber
Zambrano Perez, Julio
Zambrano Torrealba, Gabriel
Zarraga Rosales, Jorge
about 15 of these guys are accused of serious felonies. the rest are just regular people with no record worth mentioning. same for the fifty or so people from other countries who were illegally deported to El Salvador.
JL
Widmer Josneyder Agelviz Sanguino has no criminal record, and had no deportation hearing.
Not factually accurate..
Sanguino had his immigration administration hearing under a Biden immigration official..
That is ALL the due process an illegal immigrant criminal is afforded...
you can't just redefine what due process is off the cuff, it's determined by literally centuries of precedent.
Yer absolutely correct... *I* can't just define what due process is..
The SCOTUS defined what due process is for an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL..
And THAT due process for an illegal immigrant criminal is NOTHING but an administrative hearing..
THAT is what the SCOTUS has established..
I even cited the Court Cases that stated it..
As for your list of names..
Give me the particulars of each name as to why you mistakenly believe they were not allowed due process for an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL..
the rest are just regular people with no record worth mentioning.
So, they DID have a record.. They WERE criminals...
AND they were ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS..
So, why do you care if they are deported??
I mean, if you want to take care of them, YOU pony up the money to pay for their shit..
Why do you think the American taxpayers should foot the bill??
I even cited the Court Cases that stated it..
when did you cite ANY court cases, much less ones that support donald's made-up, ad-hoc standard for deportation? i really do try to read most of what you write (although it can be tough slogging to get through even a reduced quantity of copy-pasted and copy-paraphrased opinion pieces), and i don't recall a single mention of a court case to support the use of the alien enemies act of 1798 to deport people who are not enemy soldiers, and have never been indicted, much less convicted, of a single crime.
So, they DID have a record.. They WERE criminals...
that's a reading comprehension problem on your part. between 12 and 15 were at least under suspicion (i estimated conservatively), and of the remaining 265 or so, cases ranged from a twenty year old misdemeanor to a moving violation to those like Widmer who had absolutely no criminal record at all.
So, why do you care if they are deported??
i don't care about any of them individually, but i do care about the bill of rights. i care about living in the united states of america, which until january 6, 2021 was a country where the president didn't constantly break the law and ignore the constitution and the courts just to be cruel, a practice on which donald has so-far doubled down in his current term.
this is trail of tears level stuff, and it is shameful that anyone in a country such as ours would in this day and age actually defend such lawlessness and cruelty.
JL
Sanguino had his immigration administration hearing under a Biden immigration official..
That is ALL the due process an illegal immigrant criminal is afforded...
This Agelviz Sanguino?
He was not illegal, using the refuge program he came here quite legally and did not have a criminal record...
Of all the federal departments to get gutted and everyone fired, CBP and ICE should be number one on the list considering how many blatant mistakes they make.