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Friday Talking Points -- Retreat!

[ Posted Friday, May 16th, 2025 – 17:08 UTC ]

Donald Trump seems to now be in full retreat on his trade war. Which is good news, since American consumers are the ones who would have paid the price for it all. The strategy for other countries to follow is becoming clear now -- just wait Trump out, and eventually he will cave on his own, due to political and economic pressures increasing on him over time.

This strategy worked wonders for China, as last weekend Trump dropped his tariff levels against the country by a whopping 115 percentage points. This was precisely what China had been demanding he do before any trade negotiations could even begin. All they had to do was wait.

Trump didn't get any real concessions at all. There was no "deal," there was just a return to pretty much what the status quo was before Trump went bonkers with the tariffs. Calling it a "reset" is fair, but in no way was it a new trade deal. And again, all China had to do to get what they wanted was wait. Now the real talks can begin -- with China obviously in a position of strength.

Larry Summers summed it up best: "We had said that we were determined to impose these policies for an indefinite period. China didn't make any consequential or significant change in its policies.... Look, sometimes it's good to blink when you make a mistake, it's usually best to correct it and retreat, even if it's a little bit embarrassing."

Even the Wall Street Journal -- which is about as economically-conservative a media voice as you can get -- called it for what it is: "more surrender than Trump victory." They pointed out that the markets had forced Trump "to back down from his fever dream that high tariff walls will usher in a new 'golden age.' The age didn't last two months, and it was more leaden that golden."

Here's how they began their editorial:

Rarely has an economic policy been repudiated as soundly, and as quickly, as President Trump's Liberation Day tariffs -- and by Mr. Trump's own hand. Witness the agreement Monday morning to scale back his punitive tariffs on China -- his second major retreat in less than a week. This is a win for economic reality, and for American prosperity.

The Chinese were quick to claim victory, which is unsurprising.

Today, Trump announced he is apparently going to take another giant step backwards as well:

President Donald Trump on Friday said the U.S. would begin unilaterally informing many of its trading partners of new tariff rates, acknowledging for the first time that his administration will be unable to negotiate deals to lower tariffs with more than 50 trading partners by a self-imposed early July deadline.

. . .

But in remarks at a business roundtable in the United Arab Emirates, the final stop on a multi-day Middle East trip, Trump said that while "150 countries" were seeking to make deals with the U.S., it was "not possible to meet the number of people that want to see us."

Instead, Trump said U.S. trading partners should expect individual letters from Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick "at a certain point over the next two to three weeks," in which they would be "telling people what they will be paying to do business in the United States."

Got that? All those deals Trump keeps bragging are imminent aren't actually going to be announced. At times, he claimed he had negotiated more deals than there are countries on the planet Earth, so it's not surprising that he turned out to be lying about the whole thing. It seems a whole bunch of countries decided to follow China's strategy of just waiting Trump out -- that's really the only conclusion that can be drawn. To date, Trump has only announced one deal (with Britain), and it kept the baseline 10 percent tariff intact. This signalled to everyone else that the 10 percent was not negotiable, which probably contributed to their reluctance to try to avoid it through some new deal.

Trump always thought that a trade war would be a fun game to play because (as he saw it) the only people who would pay for it would be foreign governments. This is not actually how tariffs work, of course. The economic pain isn't magically confined to foreign governments at all. And when reality intruded on Trump's little game, he was forced to back off because the economic pain wasn't just hitting here at home, it was hitting Trump supporters here at home:

Throughout April, President Donald Trump's sky-high tariffs on imports from China had rippled through the U.S. and global economies. But the president was reluctant to move too quickly to lower the penalties on Beijing, believing that the United States needed to stomach some short-term economic pain to achieve a major rebalancing in trade and that China had more to lose in the standoff.

By the end of the month, though, a growing number of blue-collar workers whom Trump saw as part of his political base -- including longshoremen and truckers -- began warning that tariffs and a near-total cessation of trade with China were hurting them. Behind the scenes, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and other aides told Trump that his own voters were in danger if the tariffs did not come down, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private discussions. That gave them a path to initiating negotiations with the Chinese, which culminated this past weekend in Geneva with a partial deal to reduce tariffs between the world's two biggest economies. One White House official cautioned, however, that multiple factors contributed to the trade talks in Switzerland.

"The key argument was that this was beginning to hurt Trump's supporters -- Trump's people," one person briefed on the talks said. "It gave Susie a key window."

It wasn't just dock workers and truckers who approved of Trump retreating -- the stock market also approved. Inflation hasn't so far been greatly affected by all the chaos, but then again the ripple effects are only starting to reach consumers' wallets. Car prices are going up. Walmart announced it's going to have to raise prices soon. The travel industry is preparing to take a $12.5 billion hit this year, as more and more international travellers decide that maybe they'll vacation someplace else this year. And let's check in on how Trump's "drill, baby, drill" agenda is working out, shall we?

President Donald Trump promised to unleash an energy renaissance that would lock in U.S. dominance over oil and gas. But that is not how things are working out for America's drillers, fracking firms and equipment suppliers, including the company founded by Trump's own energy secretary.

The market value of Liberty Energy has fallen by nearly half since its former CEO, Chris Wright, joined Trump's Cabinet. The company reports it is among many in the industry struggling with the challenges heightened by Trump's agenda, including "tariff impacts, geopolitical tensions, and oil supply concerns."

. . .

Companies are opting not to add new wells out of fear they will lose money. The number of active rigs in Texas is lower now than it has been since the nation was climbing out of the pandemic. The president's tariffs are meanwhile driving up costs in U.S. oil fields, leaving firms hesitant to invest in expanding production.

So they've gone from "drill, baby, drill," to "chill, baby, chill."

In other bad economic news for Trump, American consumer sentiment continues to bottom out:

Americans are feeling even worse about the economy than they did a month ago, with a closely watched gauge of consumer sentiment hitting the second-lowest level on record.

Fresh data from the University of Michigan showed sentiment ticked down slightly in May compared to April, as President Donald Trump's trade war threatened to raise prices on a range of goods. The survey also showed that people were more uncertain about the general state of the economy and their personal finances. Sentiment is now down almost 30 percent since the start of the year, right before Trump took office.

Trump's polling reflects this. On the economy, Trump is now down an average of 13 points. On inflation, an average of only 38.4 percent of Americans approve, while 59.4 disapprove -- a gap of 21 points.

Trump had been hoping that Congress would pass his "Big Beautiful Bill" on the budget by now, but today it failed in a House committee, as various Republican factions rebelled against the bill's draft (for various reasons). Five Republicans on the committee voted "No" with the Democrats, which tanked the bill. They're going to try to tweak it and vote again Sunday night, but this doesn't exactly bode well for its chances, even to just pass the House. And the Republican Senate is reportedly going to make some major changes to it whenever the House does manage to get it across the finish line as well.

So far, the bill appears to be a "Robin Hood in reverse" bill, which is not too surprising from Republicans. It will give massive tax breaks to the very wealthy while not closing any loopholes or adding any additional taxes on multimillionaires, and it will partially pay for all this largesse by shredding the safety net for the poorest workers. Par for the GOP course, in other words. Here's an overview (emphasis in original):

It's never a great time to purge millions of Americans from critical safety-net services. But if we are indeed barreling toward recession, as many economists predict, now is an especially bad time.

It would mean more Americans are denied medical and food assistance precisely when they need it most -- and that any coming downturn could be particularly vicious and long.

Republicans desperately want to cut taxes, with the largest benefits going to higher-income households and businesses. This will be expensive, adding $5 trillion to deficits, the Joint Committee on Taxation projects. GOP lawmakers plan to (partly) pay for this cost by slashing the social safety net. Medicaid and food stamps in particular would absorb enormous cuts.

This combination -- top-heavy tax cuts financed by low-income benefit cuts -- would add up to possibly the largest single transfer of wealth from poor to rich in U.S. history, according to back-of-the-envelope numbers from Bobby Kogan, a former Senate budget staffer and researcher at the Center for American Progress.

Republicans want to gut Medicaid, which would mean that 8.6 million people will lose their healthcare safety net. This number goes up to 13.7 million when all the other things in the bill are accounted for as well.

The tax cuts included in the bill will be cancelled out for those at the bottom of the income scale, which will actually result in them losing money on the deal. Cutting Medicaid and food stamps is going to hurt:

The Republican tax plan may offer only modest gains to everyday workers, according to a wide range of tax experts, and some taxpayers may actually be left in worse financial shape if the bill becomes law.

The latest assessment arrived Friday from the Penn Wharton Budget Model, a nonpartisan scorekeeper closely watched on Capitol Hill. Economists found that many Americans who make less than $51,000 a year would see their after-tax income fall as a result of the Republican proposal beginning in 2026.

. . .

People making between about $51,000 and $17,000 could lose about $700 on average in after-tax income beginning in 2026, according to the analysis, when factoring in both wages and federal aid. That reduction would worsen over the next eight years. People reporting less than $17,000 in income would see a reduction closer to $1,000, on average, also increasing over time, a shortfall that underscores their reliance on federal benefits.

By contrast, the top 0.1 percent, including those with incomes over $4.3 million, would gain on average more than $389,000 in after-tax income in 2026, the data show. These earners benefit more from a Republican measure because it cuts taxes on the wealthy and makes other favorable changes, including for businesses, which may improve the value of their investments.

The bill is designed to hand out goodies now, while Trump is still in office, and to delay all the pain until right after he leaves office (when a lot of the goodies, like tax-free tip income) will disappear. And it will add a huge pile of money (measured in the trillions of dollars) to the national debt, of course.

In other news, federal judges keep right on smacking Trump down in court. A California judge just put a two-week pause on Trump's mass layoffs of federal workers. A different judge released a Georgetown researcher who had been locked up for expressing his political opinion. Meanwhile, Stephen Miller is out there floating the idea that Trump could just suspend habeas corpus rights, on the pretext that America was somehow at war or being invaded. So far, this hasn't happened, but it's certainly worth keeping an eye on.

And finally, we leave you all with something to look forward to. This June 14th is Flag Day. It is also the 250th anniversary of the U.S. Army. And it's Donald Trump's 79th birthday. Trump has decided that he's going to hold a grand military parade on the day -- costing taxpayers an estimated $45 million, no less -- to celebrate. But not everyone will be there to wish the Dear Leader a happy birthday, it seems:

"The National Protest Against Trump and the War Machine plans to mobilize thousands from across the country to protest the military parade," according a permit application filed with the National Park Service last week. The Army's celebration coincides with the 79th birthday of President Donald Trump, who has long mused about showcasing the might of America's armed forces on the streets of the capital.

"A military parade celebrating Trump and the Army is an outrageous insult to the American people," reads the permit application. "What really makes America great is its working people -- U.S.-born and immigrant alike -- not billionaires and the military that enforces their domination of the rest of the world."

Can't wait to see the split-screen of the protest and the parade, personally! Anyone in the D.C. area with nothing better to do on the 14th of next month should head on down to have your voices heard.

 

Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week

We're going to highlight two bright spots out there in the Democratic landscape this week, because we always like to encourage up-and-comers who do a good job in red states.

The first is a Democrat running to take on Republican Senator Joni Ernst in Iowa with a very pointed message:

As Democrats try to figure out what to say -- and who should say it -- to win back the trust of voters, Nathan Sage is saying it with uncommon fight in his voice. And he's doing it in Iowa, a place where Democrats hope to defy gravity in next year's midterm elections.

Sage is the executive director of the chamber of commerce in tiny Knoxville, about an hour from Des Moines. He's served in both the Marine Corps and the Army. He did three tours in Iraq. And on April 16, he became the first candidate in the race for the Democratic nomination to take on incumbent Republican Sen. Joni Ernst.

Sage's campaign video leans in on his working-class roots and his paycheck-to-paycheck present. He slams Ernst as a "corporate Republican" who has forsaken Iowans to do the bidding of billionaires. But what stands out is a tone we're used to hearing from the mad-at-everything world of MAGA.

"There's a war at home and we're losing. Unions under attack. Farmers f---ed over.... The economy is rigged, and those in power don't give a damn. They're the ones doing it," Sage says in the video. "Only 2 percent of Congress come from the working class. We built the damn table. It's time we had a seat at it." He ends his pitch saying, "I'm going to kick corporate Republican Joni Ernst's a-- next November."

That campaign video is definitely worth watching. We have no idea how vulnerable Ernst actually is, but she can't complain about the crudeness of the ad, since she initially ran for office with an ad bragging about her pig castration skills. Iowa politics can indeed get pretty down-and-dirty.

What is most notable about the ad, however, is Sage's authenticity. He is running as a working-class outsider, which is a good tactic for Democrats in general right now. Just for that ad alone, we have to hand Sage a Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award, and we certainly wish him the best in his campaign.

Our second MIDOTW winner this week wasn't just for a campaign but an upset victory, in another very red state:

John Ewing Jr. was elected Omaha's first Black mayor on Tuesday, defeating the city's three-term Republican mayor, Jean Stothert, in a race where Democrats sought to tie her to President Donald Trump's unpopular agenda -- another warning sign for Republicans in a critical battleground area.

Omaha and its suburbs have played a unique role in national politics, as the "blue dot" in a conservative state that wields an unusual amount of power in presidential contests. Though Democrats outnumber Republicans in the city limits of Omaha, Stothert kept her seat over three terms by building a broad-based coalition that included the city's many independent voters. But Ewing's campaign and Democrats sought to tie her to economic uncertainty and anger about Trump, whom she backed in 2024.

Ewing proved that even in red states, a Democrat can still pull off a victory if they run a good campaign. Which is reason enough to hand him his own Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award.

[Congratulate Knoxville, Iowa's Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Nathan Sage via his current official contact page (since we, as a rule, do not provide links to campaign webpages), and Omaha Mayor-Elect John Ewing Jr. via the Douglas County Treasurer's official contact page (for the same reason, it is the job Ewing currently holds), to let them know you appreciate their efforts.]

 

Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week

We were set to give this week's Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award to Representative Shri Thanedar, for grandstanding in the House by forcing a vote on his articles of impeachment against Donald Trump. But then he was convinced to pull his resolution, after pressure from his fellow House Democrats:

"After talking with many colleagues, I have decided not to force a vote on impeachment today," [Representative Shri] Thanedar confirmed in a text message. "Instead, I will add to my articles of impeachment and continue to rally the support of both Democrats and Republicans to defend the Constitution with me."

Democrats privately fumed this week after Thanedar pressed forward with his impeachment effort at a moment where they are seeking to put a spotlight on Republicans' potential cuts to Medicaid and other federal programs as the GOP moves closer to a floor vote on its massive tax-cut bill.

Although many Democrats believe that Trump has committed impeachable offenses -- many voted to impeach him twice during his first term -- they saw Thanedar's measure as a sideshow during a crucial week on Capitol Hill.

We fully agree with that last paragraph. Yes, Trump is committing impeachable offenses on a weekly basis. Yes, he certainly does deserve being removed from office. But it's a pipe dream -- there is no way that the House would vote for it (even if all his fellow Democrats voted with him, which was in no way guaranteed), and even if that miracle happened, there is no way the Republican Senate would convict him. The whole thing was, indeed, a sideshow. Thanedar has a much-younger primary challenger for his seat and is trying to appear bold in fighting back against Trump, but it's all performative. So we were glad to hear he decided not to hold the vote on his impeachment resolution.

Instead, we'll give the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week to the Democratic National Committee, who are in the process of trying to oust David Hogg from his role as vice-chairman, since Hogg is moving forward with plans to endorse primary challenges to other Democrats deemed too old or with not enough fight in them.

A Democratic National Committee panel found that David Hogg and another vice chair were not properly elected this year, setting off a process that could lead to Hogg's ouster amid backlash to his plans to support primary challengers to House Democrats.

The Credentials Committee's recommendation will get a vote from the full DNC membership. If approved, the two vice chair elections will be invalidated, and new elections will be held as soon as practicable. The new elections will be limited to the same five candidates who were eligible at the February vote.

. . .

"While this vote was based on how the DNC conducted its officers' elections, which I had nothing to do with, it is also impossible to ignore the broader context of my work to reform the party which loomed large over this vote," Hogg said in a statement after the committee's recommendation. "I ran to be DNC Vice Chair to help make the Democratic Party better, not to defend an indefensible status quo that has caused voters in almost every demographic group to move away from us. The DNC has pledged to remove me, and this vote has provided an avenue to fast-track that effort."

In his statement, Hogg noted that other party committees are regularly involved in primaries and that past DNC vice chairs have endorsed candidates in primaries without issue.

For those of us out here who also think the Democratic Party could stand to have some deadwood removed from its ranks, it is disappointing indeed to see how hard the party establishment is pushing back against such efforts. Hogg is right -- getting fresher candidates would likely help with the problem of demographics (especially among young voters).

So we have a sort of blanket Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week this week for all the members of the Democratic National Committee who are behind the efforts to oust Hogg at a moment when what he's trying to accomplish could actually help.

[Contact the Democratic National Committee on their official contact page, to let them know what you think of their actions.]

 

Friday Talking Points

Volume 796 (5/16/25)

Another mixed bag this week. We didn't even include the whole "let's bribe Trump with a plane" thing in the weekly round-up, because there were other more relevant things to review, but it certainly is worth a few choice talking points from Democrats, that's for sure.

 

1
   Retreat!

Thankfully...

"Donald Trump finally figured out his trade war wasn't working out as planned and was beginning to hit American workers, businesses, and consumers hard. So he blinked. Instead of dictating terms to China as he had planned, he had to instead give them everything they were asking for just to get them to the table. And now it looks like no other 'deals' will be announced with other countries in the world -- we're just going to set a tariff rate without any deals in place at all. Another retreat! But I for one am thankful that Trump is finally beginning to realize that the entire trade war idea was just a fancy way of shooting America in the foot. Trump still has a ways more to retreat before we get the economy back to some sort of normal, but at least he retreated on the most idiotic of his tariffs with China (for now)."

 

2
   Prices are still going up

Everyone already knows this (from seeing it at the checkout stand) but Democrats should remind them of it every chance they get.

"Donald Trump got elected promising to bring prices down on everything. But you know what? Prices are still going up. They're going up because Trump has no idea what he's doing with the world's economy and the American consumer is going to bear all the pain involved. Trump can lie about it all he wants, but that just goes to show how out-of-touch he is. Gas prices are not magically down below two dollars a gallon, they are actually up a dime since he took office. Food prices are up. Cars are more expensive. Even Walmart is announcing price hikes. Everywhere you look, you can see that Trump was lying about being able to wave some magic wand and bring prices down. And everything he's done with his trade war nonsense has just made things worse."

 

3
   De plane! De plane!

As Hervé Villechaize used to put it...

"Just when you think Donald Trump can't get any sleazier, he manages to do so beyond a shadow of a doubt. His announcement that he will be accepting a bribe in the form of a 747 from Qatar was historic in scope, since no U.S. president has ever even considered taking such a jaw-dropping bribe right out in plain (plane?) sight. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced that it would be legal to do so in her opinion, which isn't too surprising considering she used to be a lobbyist for Qatar. But anyone who can read the plain (plane?) English of the United States Constitution knows that this is horrendously ethically wrong. It's so bad even some Republicans are having problems with it! Plus, it sends a very third-world signal to the rest of the planet: not only can our president be easily bribed, but he'll even take a secondhand, hand-me-down aircraft from some wealthy country rather than getting a brand-new one."

 

4
   Just for one second...

It's worth pointing this one out, once again.

"I'd like to ask each and every Republican who is out there tying themselves into knots trying to explain why an American president should be able to accept gigantic bribes two very simple questions. First: would you have been just as OK with Barack Obama accepting a huge flying palace from Kenya? Second: would you have been fine with Joe Biden accepting a giant plane from Ukraine that he could keep after he left office? If any one of them answers 'Yes' to either of those -- rather than admit that their heads would have exploded if either Obama or Biden had attempted to do such a thing -- then I will call them a liar right to their faces. The double standard is pretty blatant, don't you think?"

 

5
   Free? Hardly.

Also worth pointing out.

"Trump keeps saying that the bribe is wonderful because he's getting a $400 million plane 'for free.' But that's not actually true, is it? Getting that plane up to the standards required for Air Force One would involve basically taking it apart down to the skeleton and then rebuilding it with security measures and secure communications gear and all the rest of the things an American president requires when flying in an airplane. Which would cost hundreds of millions of dollars -- some estimates put it over a billion, in fact. So how exactly is that a 'free' plane? It would take so long to retrofit that Trump would barely even get the chance to use it before he left office as well. Doesn't sound like such a good deal when you consider everything, does it? And certainly not a 'free' one, that's for sure."

 

6
   What could possibly go wrong? [Part 1]

No surprise, really.

"Donald Trump, in his first 100-plus days in office, has only sat for an intelligence briefing a total of 12 times. I guess he was too busy playing golf, or something. It's no wonder he answers: 'I didn't know about that' so often, when asked by reporters on all sorts of subjects. It's because he doesn't know -- because he doesn't have time to sit down and listen. You know, for a guy who ran on how out-of-touch Joe Biden was, it's rather unnerving to see how little Trump is interested in the nation's security. Getting briefings every week or two is just not good enough. If a crisis develops, Trump will be forced to pay attention, but until that happens he's just not that interested, it seems. What could possibly go wrong with that?"

 

7
   What could possibly go wrong? [Part 2]

Weather has no political ideology, it's worth remembering.

"Donald Trump is busily gutting NOAA and the National Weather Service, because he doesn't like pointy-headed scientists who contradict his fantasy world (where climate change does not exist). So Trump is firing them all. One-fourth of the National Weather Service's local forecast offices now lacks a chief meteorologist. Trump is also gutting disaster-preparedness programs for the states, and wants to complete eliminate FEMA. So America will have less information about the weather and few resources to recover from any natural disasters that come along. Just something to think about, folks, right before hurricane season starts. Because what could possibly go wrong with this plan, right?"

-- Chris Weigant

 

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Cross-posted at: Democratic Underground

 

107 Comments on “Friday Talking Points -- Retreat!”

  1. [1] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    The fat orange crater-faced blob with a B-52 bottle-blonde bouffant hairdo told Bruce Springsteen to KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT, made a mob-style threat against him, and weirdly said that Bruce's skin is all atrophied. Does skin atrophy?

    Now Fat Donny had just left the middle east where he revealed his man-crush for the young attractive ISIS president guy in Syria. What chance does Bruce stand against a handsome blood-thirsty killer nearly half his age?

    It's fun to stay at the YMCA!

  2. [2] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    The Moody's downgrade is a sure sign of greatness to come.

  3. [3] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    I wholeheartedly agree with the latter MIDOW award. What is a bit disappointing about this is that, again and again, rural Democrats WIN when they focus on the issues that THEIR electorate cares about. But again and again, the Democratic Party throws cash and staff at high-profile races in deep-blue districts.

  4. [4] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    TP1 - other possible eye-catching slogans "Capitulate!", "Tuck tail!", "Roll over!", "Surrender!", and - perhaps because I've got "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" on my mind:
    "Run Away!"

  5. [5] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    I heard an interesting factoid recently: Trump's approval ratings at the 100-day mark are the second worst in decades; the U.S. President with the WORST after 100 days in office: Trump 1.0. LOL.

    So.Much.Winning

  6. [6] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    John From Censornati [2]: I've read only one article about the Moodys downgrade. It indicated that Moodys took this action because of the growing Federal debt. So I assume Faux News and friends will spin this to be Biden's debt. Whether Trump voters will swallow this remains to be seen.

    Interestingly, many financial experts portray this as a "shot across the bow" to give pause to the Republican-controlled Congress as it prepares its "Big Beautiful Bill".
    https://www.reuters.com/business/view-with-moodys-downgrade-us-loses-treasured-aaa-credit-rating-2025-05-16/

  7. [7] 
    Michale wrote:

    Welcome to another fun-filled day in Weigantia!! :D

    Before we get started, let's try something new today, eh??

    Let's forgo making everything about me personally and let's all try to just talk about politics and/or other appropriate topics...

    Mmm Kay?? Can we all do that??

    Secondly, I have noted ya'all's complaints about the excessive lengths of my comments..

    So, at ya'all's request, I am going to break up my responses so they are not as long as they normally would be..

    Don't say I never do nuttin' for ya'all!! :D

    OK, let's get to it.. :D

    Donald Trump seems to now be in full retreat on his trade war.

    I honestly don't know where you are getting your news from, CW.. :D

    just wait Trump out {salon.com} and.....

    Ahhhhh... THAT explains it.. :D

    Seriously, though...

    China just got it's ass handed to them... :D

    PRESIDENT Trump obliterated China in the trade war, tanking their economy with 145% tariffs starting April 2, 2025. China’s factory activity plummeted to its lowest since December 2023, with exports to the U.S. dropping 17.6% in April
    CITE: Guardian

    Facing collapse, Beijing surrendered, agreeing to talks in Geneva. PRESIDENTTrump, having won, magnanimously slashed U.S. tariffs to 30% from 145%, while China cut THEIR tariffs on the US FROM 125% to 10% effective May 14, 2025
    NY Times

    PRESIDENT Trump (AND AMERICANS) won so PRESIDENT Trump was a grascious winner!! :D

    This deal, securing China’s pledge to curb fentanyl precursors, proves PRESIDENTTrump’s tariffs crushed China’s resistance, delivering a fairer trade landscape for America while showcasing his strategic mercy.

    How awesome a guy is PRESIDENT Trump, eh!!! :D

    He KICKS CHINA IN THE DING-DING and then graciously helps them out!! :D

    Watta guy!!! Watta POTUS!!! Watta AMERICAN!!!

  8. [8] 
    Michale wrote:

    Americans are feeling even worse about the economy than they did a month ago, with a closely watched gauge of consumer sentiment hitting the second-lowest level on record.

    Again, I really wonder where you are getting your news from... :D

    merican consumer sentiment continues to bottom out: {washingtonpost}

    Ahh... Once again, I see why.. :D

    Here are the FACTS.. :D

    Americans are thrilled with PRESIDENT Trump’s economic wins, slashing prices and reviving the economy! Gas dropped to $3.17/gallon, groceries fell 0.4%, and eggs plummeted 12.7% in April 2025, the biggest drop since 1984
    CITE: NPR

    Inflation hit a four-year low, boosting consumer confidence.
    CITE: USA TODAY

    PRESIDENT Trump’s tariffs and energy policies delivered these savings, proving his AMERICA FIRST agenda works.

    Social media is all the buzz with gratitude for affordable essentials, cementing PRESIDENT Trump's economic triumphs!!

    Trump's polling reflects this.

    I address the PRESIDENT Trump's polling numbers in a comment to ITALY RUSTY below...

    Trump had been hoping that Congress would pass his "Big Beautiful Bill" on the budget by now, but today it failed in a House committee, as various Republican factions rebelled against the bill's draft (for various reasons). Five Republicans on the committee voted "No" with the Democrats, which tanked the bill. They're going to try to tweak it and vote again Sunday night, but this doesn't exactly bode well for its chances, even to just pass the House. And the Republican Senate is reportedly going to make some major changes to it whenever the House does manage to get it across the finish line as well.

    Yea, there was always going to be setbacks...

    Remember Basement Biden/Headboard Harris had to scale back THEIR bullshit plans??

    This is simply the process... You know that, CW... :D

  9. [9] 
    Michale wrote:

    In other news, federal judges keep right on smacking Trump down in court.

    Once again, not factually accurate..

    Or, to be more accurate, just cherry picking from places like HuffPost, WaPost, and NY TIMES...

    The REAL facts paint a completely different story..

    PRESIDENT Trump has secured key court victories in 2025.

    The Supreme Court upheld his transgender military ban {CITE: Politico} and blocked funding cuts to teacher training grants {CITE: NY Times}.

    A Pennsylvania judge ruled Trump can use the Alien Enemies Act for deportations {CITE: Newsweek}.

    The DC Circuit curbed injunctions against his policies, affirming judicial limits {X}.

    These wins, from deportation powers to military policy, showcase PRESIDENT Trump’s legal triumphs, reshaping immigration for the better and firmly establishing Executive Authority.

    There's a new sheriff in town, people!! And his name is PRESIDENT Donald Trump!!

    :D

    Can't wait to see the split-screen of the protest and the parade, personally!

    It probably won't be as bad as it was for woke progressive Democrats in their SPLIT SCREEN of CNN talking about "mostly peaceful protests" while buildings were burned and looted by woke progressive BLM Democrats, eh?? :D

  10. [10] 
    Michale wrote:

    I won't bother denigrating yer MIDOTW, CW... :D Considering how things have been going for the wilderness roaming Democrats, I imagine it's really REALLY difficult to find an impressive Democrat.. So, far be it from me to give you grief about it.. :D

    And I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised and impressed on your 1st choice for your MDDOTW person...

    We were set to give this week's Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award to Representative Shri Thanedar, for grandstanding in the House by forcing a vote on his articles of impeachment against Donald Trump. But then he was convinced to pull his resolution, after pressure from his fellow House Democrats

    The whole thing was, indeed, a sideshow.

    You have certainly mellowed here in the last few months...

    Before you would have been all spit-fire, TAKE NO PRISONERS, DAMN THE TORPEDOES IMPEACH THE SON OF A BITCH!! hysteria...

    It seems you are taking a more non-hysterical tactical picking your battles approach to PRESIDENT Trump...

    I am impressed.. Truly... You might be on the path of stages where you have gone from insanely hysterical to calm and rational tactics..

    Who knows.. You might even get to the point to where you tell yourself, you say "Self?? Yunno... Maybe PRESIDENT Trump's AMERICA FIRST policies are actually GOOD for America and Americans!!"...

    Stranger things have happened.. :D

    Instead, we'll give the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week to the Democratic National Committee, who are in the process of trying to oust David Hogg from his role as vice-chairman, since Hogg is moving forward with plans to endorse primary challenges to other Democrats deemed too old or with not enough fight in them.

    Now, I have to take objection to this...

    Hogg is an opportunistic moron.. He jumped on the WAAAA WAAA I'M A VICTIM bandwagon and is making huge amounts of money off the dead bodies of his (alleged) "friends"...

    The gun issue is a LOSING issue for Democrats.. Always has been.. Always will be...

    And to actually make money and fame off the bodies of those tragically gunned down??

    Well, that's just pathetic..

    Trust me on this.. With morons like Hogg representing Democrats, the Party will continue to roam the political wilderness...

  11. [11] 
    Michale wrote:

    I am going to forgo addressing the TPs til another day... Give ya'all a chance to catch yer breaths.. :D

    But I did want to address the POLLS issue, as I promised I would..

    ItalyRusty,

    I heard an interesting factoid recently: Trump's approval ratings at the 100-day mark are the second worst in decades; the U.S. President with the WORST after 100 days in office: Trump 1.0. LOL.

    First off, you need to add cites for your "facts".. Some Weigantians get in a tizzy when you don't provide cites for your "facts".. Just FYI... :D

    Secondly...

    Your "facts" are not factually accurate. Or, to be more specific, your facts are out of date..

    Most recent polls show PRESIDENT Trump's approval numbers are up and moving upper... er.. higher.. :D

    A Yahoo News report from May 15th highlighted a Reuters/Ipsos poll showing Trump's approval rating edging up two points to 44%, with 52% disapproval.

    The Bergen Record reported that Rasmussen Reports showed Trump's approval at 52% with 47% disapproval, and other polls showed improvement compared to late April.

    I think it's time for a bit of a reality check, right? We were going into late April, Donald Trump's approval rating - his net approval seemed to be falling. He seemed to be 'adios amigos.' People were writing his political obituary. He is rising from the dead.

    Look at this - hello. Trump's net approval rating among voters - this is the Reuters/Ipsos polling- look at this. In late April, he was eight points underwater. But look at where he was in the most recent poll among voters. He's up seven points to a minus-one point net favorability rating. This is not the picture that I think a lot of people were thinking that we would be painting. In late April, I think a lot of people expected his approval rating to keep dropping. But, at least according to Reuters/Ipsos, it's, in fact, rising.
    -CNN's Harry Enten

    So, Rusty... While you may have been factually accurate a week ago, the here and now clearly shows that your "facts" are in error..

    PRESIDENT Trump's poll numbers are rising and getting out of the water.. :D

    OK, people... Gonna break for a bit.. :D

  12. [12] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @jfc,
    the term "atrophied" doesn't seem like something Donald would come up with on his own, much less about skin. has he seen a dermatologist recently?
    JL

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    Here is an incident of the past week that was completely ignored in Weigantia...

    "Gee!!! I wonder why that is!!!??"
    -Kevin Spacey, THE NEGOTIATOR

    :D :D

    Basement Biden's criminal interrogation of illegally taking classified files..

    The Special Counsel Robert Hur’s investigation into Basement Biden’s illegal retention of classified documents revealed a scandal marked by illegality, senility, and a Democratic cover-up.

    Unlike PRESIDENT Trump, who as POTUS had declassification and retention authority under Article II and the PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT, Basement Biden, as a former VICE PRESIDENT and measly US SENATOR, had NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to retain classified files found at his Penn Biden Center office and Delaware garage, including sensitive Afghanistan memos {CITE:NY Times}

    Hur’s February 8, 2024, report found Biden “willfully retained and disclosed” these materials, posing “serious risks to national security,” but declined prosecution, citing Biden’s significantly limited memory, senility and dementia. Hur stated that Basement Biden was unlikely to be convicted due to being found mentally incompetence {CITE: NBC News}

    Biden couldn’t recall his vice-presidential term or his son Beau’s death year, displaying clear senility {AP News}

    Democrats, with Big Media’s complicity, concealed Biden’s dementia from Americans.

    The Wall Street Journal’s December 19, 2024, report detailed how Biden’s aides hid his “rapidly diminishing mental condition,” canceling national security meetings and feeding him lines he couldn’t repeat {CITE:Daily Mail}

    A Washington Post-ABC poll (Feb. 2024) showed only 32% believed Biden had the “mental sharpness” for office, yet Democrats and outlets like CNN downplayed his June 2024 debate collapse as a “cold” {CITE: STAT}

    Posts on X from @themarketswork (April 27, 2025) noted Hur’s immediate recognition of Biden’s decline, which Democrats obscured for years.

    This conspiracy shielded Biden’s incapacity, unlike PRESIDENT Trump’s transparent legal battles over documents he was authorized to handle, declassify and retain.

    Biden’s unauthorized and ILLEGAL retention, excused by senility, and Democrats’ media-backed cover-up betray the American people, undermining trust in governance.

    I mean, it's all old hat because we have all read the transcript..

    But to actually HEAR it now!?? Well, NOW it's just.... VISCERAL...

    The blatant mental incompetence and senility simply JUMPS out of the speaker, grabs the listener by the tukuus and shakes them to the core...

    By actually HEARING what transpired, this recording is forcing Democrats and their media propagandists deeper and deeper into the political wilderness...

    CITES:
    NY Times
    NBC News
    AP News
    Daily Mail
    STAT
    Washington Post-ABC Poll, Feb. 2024
    X Post by @themarketswork

    As an aside...

    Yunno, Bash... I should probably thank you...

    Your hysterical whinings about citations has made me a better and more formidable debater...

    So, thank you.. :D

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    Interesting article from THE LIBERAL PATRIOT..

    I won't summarize it for ya'all other than to say it hits the mark on the ACTUAL REASONS why Democrats lost so bad in 2024...

    Reasons that the woke progressive Democrats of the here and now STILL refuse to face...

    The Progressive Moment Is *Still* Over
    But Democrats don’t seem to know it.

    https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-progressive-moment-is-still-over

    Oh... and JFC???

    The Moody's downgrade is a sure sign of greatness to come.

    Yea, just like Headboard Harris' awesome campaigning was a DEFINITE sign of HER "greatness" to come, eh??

    So, tell me how you got it SOOOOO completely and utterly 1000% WRONG, eh???

    Asking for a friend.. :D

  15. [15] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Your hysterical whinings about citations has made me a better and more formidable debater...

    Why? Because you pretend to cite? You have been channeling more jerk than Jamaican cuisine...

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why? Because you pretend to cite? You have been channeling more jerk than Jamaican cuisine...

    What you call "jerk" is simply me kicking your arse all up one side of Weigantia and down the other side..

    You have yet to refute a SINGLE fact in the last couple days... :D

    Can't stand the heat???

    Weigantia is REALLY hot this time of year.. Maybe you need a vacay, eh?? :D

  17. [17] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    What you call "jerk" is simply me kicking your arse all up one side of Weigantia and down the other side..

    By hiding behind your sources? Hilarious...

    You have yet to refute a SINGLE fact in the last couple days... :D

    I didn't have to. You posted a media bias site that completely destroyed your "reliable media" dodge...

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    And Bashi tries diligently to make the entire commentary thread about me, without being able to refute a single solitary fact, even though he is provided with MULTIPLE cites..

    Typical... :D

  19. [19] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Try harder dude...

  20. [20] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    DHS says it’s in beginning stages of ‘vetting process’ for immigrant reality TV show

    So, we are moving from the Patterns of Force period into Bread and Circuses...

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    Whattsamatter Bash??

    Are you afraid that the whole world is going to see how ugly Democrat protectee ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS really are??

    I mean, look how much ya'all have expended supporting the gang-banger wife-beater terrorist ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL Albrago Garcia, eh??

    Facts hurt, eh Bash?? :D

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Democrat Party objective reality of the here and now...
    http://mfccfl.us/facts.jpg

    Kinda what I am all about... :D

  23. [23] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    You mean that guy without a criminal record here or abroad?

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    You mean the guy who is DOCUMENTED as a wife-beater, human trafficker and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL??

    The guy who had NUMEROUS protection orders against him for beating his wife..

    While Kilmar Abrego Garcia has no formal criminal convictions, his lack of a criminal record as an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL is irrelevant to his dangerous character.

    Garcia, who entered the U.S. illegally in 2011, faced serious allegations: a 2019 Prince George’s County police report tied him to MS-13, though uncharged. His wife’s 2020 and 2021 protective orders alleged physical abuse, including slapping and bruising.

    In 2022, Tennessee police suspected him of human trafficking, driving eight migrants in a smuggler’s vehicle, yet he escaped with just a warning.

    These incidents paint Garcia as a scumbag, regardless of convictions.

    And, as DEMOCRATS have established, ALLEGATIONS = GUILT...

    As an illegal immigrant, his presence alone violates U.S. law (INA § 1325), and his alleged MS-13 ties and trafficking role threaten public safety.

    The absence of a formal rap sheet doesn’t erase his actions. It simply reflects DEMOCRAT prosecutorial leniency, not innocence.

    Garcia’s deportation to El Salvador’s CECOT prison in March 2025 was justified, targeting such threats, per ICE’s 2025 operations. His record’s “clean” status means nothing. H is STILL a scumbag and a STILL a menace.

    Woke progressive Democrat support for Garcia, an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL with MS-13 ties and domestic violence is a shameful betrayal of American safety.

    Despite no convictions, Garcia’s 2022 trafficking suspicions and 2020-2021 abuse allegations reveal a dangerous character.

    Yet, Democrats like Sen. Chris Van Hollen champion him, ignoring his threat {CITE: ABC News}.

    Democrat defense of this scumbag, prioritizing ideology over justice, endangers communities and defies the 99% of Americans supporting deportations {CITE:CBS News}

  25. [25] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Why are you calling him a criminal if he has never been convicted of a crime?

    Garcia, who entered the U.S. illegally in 2011, faced serious allegations: a 2019 Prince George’s County police report tied him to MS-13

    Except that evidence was flimsy at best:

    Sandoval-Moshenberg said that those charges are false, and that the gang label stems from a 2019 incident when Abrego Garcia and three other men were detained in a Home Depot parking lot by a police detective in Prince George’s County, Maryland. During questioning, one of the men told officers that Abrego Garcia was a gang member, but the man offered no proof and police said they didn’t believe him, filings show. Police did not identify him as a gang member.

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    THE ATLANTIC!!???

    THAT is your "evidence"!!???

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    What part of woke progressive Democrat leniency is unclear to you??

    The FACT is, Garcia is a scumbag..

    JUST LIKE George Floyd was a scumbag...

    But, for some reason, scumbags like Floyd and Garcia CONTINUE to become Democrat heroes..

    Why is that??

    Why is it that MORON Democrats are always choosing scumbags like the Floyds and the Garcias of the country to be their heroes???

    WHY!?

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why are you calling him a criminal if he has never been convicted of a crime?

    He's a scumbag wife-beater, gang-banger and terrorist..

    AND he is in jail...

    Seems that criminal is the appropriate term... :D

  28. [28] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    THE ATLANTIC!!???

    THAT is your "evidence"!!???

    It's in the green box of acceptance for the media bias link you posted yesterday. You don't stand behind your links?

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    You mean the Democrat Green Box Of Acceptance where THE ATLANTIC skews far to the Left??

    Face reality, Bash...

    You wouldn't know an objective source of facts if it came up and slapped you on the arse.. :D

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    You never answered the question, Bash??

    Why is it that MORON Democrats are always choosing scumbags like the Floyds and the Garcias of the country to be their heroes???

    WHY!?

  31. [31] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    You mean the Democrat Green Box Of Acceptance where THE ATLANTIC skews far to the Left??

    You mean a little bit left? The green box of acceptance is a little left and a little right with reasonable fact reporting...Seems fairly balanced between left and right bias. But if you don't stand behind your links...

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's a MINUS 9.3 on the credibility scale, Bashi..

    Only a woke progressive Democrat would accept THAT evidence...

    :eyeroll:

    Why are you afraid to answer the question, Bash??

    Why is it that MORON Democrats are always choosing scumbags like the Floyds and the Garcias of the country to be their heroes???

    WHY!?

  33. [33] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    It's a MINUS 9.3 on the credibility scale, Bashi..

    And where are your more conservative "sites" on that scale? I'm smelling some serious hypocrisy here...

    Why are you afraid to answer the question, Bash??

    You have done a piss poor job proving them to be scumbags. One would almost call it moronic...

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    George Floyd is NOT a proven scumbag!!?? Garcia is NOT a proven scumbag!!!???

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    You seriously are delusional, ain'tcha???

    You even thought that Headboard Harris actually had a chance to win the election!!

    I really do feel sorry for ya, Bash....

  35. [35] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    And there it is. You can't back up your shit so you fall back on your favorite old chestnut...

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    OH I have many MANY chestnuts..

    Headboard Harris' inability to have an actual press conference..

    Basement Biden's disastrous debate performance after YOU Democrats assured American voters that Basement Biden was "sharp as a tack"..

    Basement Biden actually having to be FORCED off the Democrat Presidential ticket.

    Basement Biden's disastrous (seeing a pattern???) interview with Special Prosecutor Ben Hur, after which Mr Hur declined to prosecute Basement Biden because Basement Biden was mentally incompetent to stand trial.

    Democrats actually thinking OPEN BORDERS was a great idea!!

    Democrats delusions about inflation being "transitory"...

    And hundreds and hundreds of more "chestnuts".. :D

    But you ARE correct that my FAVORITE one is the fact that YOU actually thought Headboard Harris had an ACTUAL chance to win the election!!! :D

    That is, by far, the most favorite chestnut in my collection... :D But there are HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of others... :D

    Did you WANT to talk endlessly about Democrat failures??

    Or were you just making chit-chat??

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    You almost... ALMOST... have to feel sorry for Democrats..

    Democrats are choking on their champagne as PRESIDENT Trump’s poll numbers soar like a phoenix!

    CNN’s Harry Enten, citing a liberal-biased NPR/PBS poll admitted Trump’s approval hit 53% post-Liberation Day, April 2, 2025, a Methuselah-like comeback {CITE: CNN}

    X posts from @atrupar (May 10, 2025) mock the Democrats and their delusions that claimed a PRESIDENT Trump crash was JUST around the corner!!

    And, JUST LIKE THE 2024 Harris Election Win, it's a prediction THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!! :D

    The market has rebounded with the S&P 500 up 4.7% since April {CITE: Bloomberg} and PRESIDENT Trump sealed trade deals with the UK and China, slashing tariffs after CRUSHING and DECIMATING China’s economy {CITE:NY Times}

    PRESIDENT Trump's Middle East trip was an ASTOUNDING SUCCESS that scored MAJOR diplomatic wins, unlike Biden’s weak, senile 4-year stumbles!! {CITE: AP }

    Even DEMOCRATS were amazed at PRESIDENT Trump's mid-east success!!

    Oh sure, it stung to applaud PRESIDENT Trump’s Middle East triumphs! Even Democrats' own cheerleaders, Biden’s Rob Malley, Ned Price, and Obama’s Tommy Vietor and Ben Rhodes, couldn't help but applaud PRESIDENT Trump’s bold moves, lifting Syria sanctions and meeting interim President Ahmad al-Sharaa, a U.S. first in 25 years!!

    Securing $600 billion from Saudi Arabia? Pure genius! X posts from @atrupar (May 16, 2025) show Democrats grudgingly admitting PRESIDENT Trump’s “audacious” diplomacy outshined by far Biden’s timid dithering.

    Democrats are “awed” yet “terrified” of his power, whining he’s untouchable while their party flounders at 29% favorability {CITE:NBC, MARCH 2025}. PRESIDENT Trump’s reshaping the region, and Democrats are dining on a steady course of Fried Crow and Sour Grapes... :D CITE: ATLANTIC COUNCIL, MAY 2025}

    PRESIDENT Trump’s instincts... keeping promises on borders and jobs.... prove he’s a best-of-seven champ, while Democrats, leaderless and divided, flail without a message.

    Democrat approval ratings are in the 20s, per NBC. Democrasts lied about Biden’s mental sharpness, exposed by Hur’s report {CITE:NBC, FEB 2024} and now Democrats are stuck untangling THAT mess that has just been brought to the forefront with the release of the actual Biden/Hur interview..

    PRESIDENT Trump is stacking up HUGE wins:

    ....gas at $3.17 ....eggs down 12.7% {CITE:NPR, May 2025}...

    .... while Democrats cry into their empty fridge.

    PRESIDENT Trump is simply unbeatable!

    Ya'all should read the writing on the walls and jump on the PRESIDENT Trump Train!!! :D

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    Awww, right... Barring anybody that leaves a response that requires my attention, I am going to call it a day...

    Got some swimming to take care of!!! :D

    Hasta Lasagna... :D

  39. [39] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @Rusty, [4-5]

    you may have heard that statistic, here, as cw reported on it. as for the Holy Grail, i had the same thought.

    JL

  40. [40] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Whiny orange baby and big fat liar Donald threatened Wal*Mart and demanded that they "eat" the Trump Taxes despite idiotically telling everyone multiple times that tariffs are taxes paid by foreign countries. Why should American companies pay his sales taxes? He begrudges Wal*Mart their profits while he sucks up to middle eastern dictators for bribes.

    He also said that Hannity's smelly Wal*Mart shoppers would be watching. He's right about that, but too dim-witted and bubble-wrapped to realize that EVERYBODY already knows about the TRUMP TAXES.

  41. [41] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Hmm...I was curious of the reason behind the terrorist attack on a IVF clinic in palm springs. Nobody on the left that I can think of is against it and even on the right it's pretty fringe. If the story is correct and they did find the website of the guy who did it. Whew...what a nutter. Dude was supposedly in to efilism, the belief that sentient life is bad and humans should not reproduce. Which makes an attack on an IVF clinic strangely make sence. He also had his best friend, of the opposite sex, commit suicide recently so it was likely more of a suicide than supporting his beliefs. At least he was the only person to die, so there is that..

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    Whew...what a nutter. Dude was supposedly in to efilism, the belief that sentient life is bad and humans should not reproduce.

    As a Democrat, it is your duty to support and respect ALL beliefs, no??

    I mean, that's why Democrats were on the front lines of supporting 22+ years of BLM and AntiFa riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings all over the country...

    Right??

    Which makes an attack on an IVF clinic strangely make sence.

    Terrorism makes 'sense', eh?? Why am I not surprised you would say something like that, eh?? :eyeroll:

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    Interesting to note..

    Not a single citation in that comment...

    So, according to Bashi's rules, it can be ignored and disregarded...

    :eyeroll:

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, once again, PRESIDENT Trump proves why he is the GREATEST US President since Saint Ronald Reagan!!

    PRESIDENT Trump played an instrumental role in securing the release of Israeli-American hostage Edan Alexander from Hamas captivity!

    After 584 harrowing days, Edan, a 21-year-old dual citizen abducted during Hamas’ October 7, 2023, attack, was freed on May 12, 2025, in a remarkable diplomatic triumph.

    PRESIDENT Trump’s unwavering commitment, strategic pressure, and direct negotiations through his administration’s envoys, Steve Witkoff and Adam Boehler, forced this "goodwill" gesture from HAMAS, marking a pivotal step toward ceasefire efforts in Gaza. Of course, the "goodwill" from HAMAS was in the form of "Please Sir!! Don't bomb us back into the stone age!! We'll return the hostage right away sir!!!"

    Under PRESIDENT Trump's leadership, not only was Edan brought home to his family in New Jersey, but it also sent a powerful message of hope to the families of the 58 hostages still held, 20 of whom are believed to be alive.

    The PRESIDENT Trump administration’s tireless efforts, bypassing traditional channels to engage directly with HAMAS via Qatar and Egypt, underscored his bold approach to resolving complex crises.

    Edan’s emotional reunion with his parents, Yael and Adi, at Reim Military Base, captured the hearts of millions, with crowds in Tel Aviv and Tenafly celebrating his return.

    PRESIDENT Trump's personal engagement, including speaking with Edan post-release... “You’re an American, and we love you” exemplifies PRESIDENT Trump's dedication to every American citizen.

    PRESIDENT Trump's achievement, hailed as a “monumental” victory, reflects his ability to combine diplomatic finesse with resolute strength, as noted by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who credited PRESIDENT Trump's pressure alongside Israel’s military efforts.

    PRESIDENT Trump's Middle East trip made great strides and furthered the progress of peace in the region and PRESIDENT will not rest until ALL the hostages are free the end comes to this brutal conflict.

    PRESIDENT Trump is to be congratulated for restoring hope and proving that American leadership can change lives.

    Congratulations to PRESIDENT Trump on this historic success!

    And ta think there are STILL some people who hate PRESIDENT Trump... :^/

    CITES:

    timesofisrael.com
    ABC NEWS
    Washington Post
    CNN

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    A little more in depth about the HUGE bombshell that just hit and totally cratered ANY CHANCE of the Democrat Party's return from the political wilderness any time soon...

    The Democrats and their media allies orchestrated a shameful cover-up of Joe Biden’s senility, betraying the American public’s trust.

    Special Counsel Robert Hur’s 2023 audio, leaked on May 16, 2025, exposed Biden’s alarming mental decline... struggling to recall his son Beau’s 2015 death or his vice-presidential term, slurring words, and asking, “Am I making any sense?”.

    No, Joe.. You haven't made sense in 2 decades... :eyeroll:

    Hur’s report described Biden as a “well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” unfit for prosecution over mishandling classified Afghanistan documents due to his “diminished faculties”.

    Which is simply a politically correct way of saying that Joe Biden was mentally incompetent to stand trial..

    Unlike PRESIDENT Trump, who had declassification authority, Biden had no legal right to retain these files, risking national security {CITE: NY Times, Feb 2024}.

    Joe Biden is not to blame here.. Joe Biden is not the villain.. As I have said many times, we're all going to be there someday...

    Joe Biden is to be pitied... Doubly so because Joe was surrounded by sycophants who USED Joe Biden to achieve their own political ambitions..

    DEMOCRATS are the villains here... The entirety of the Democrat Party is the villain here...

    Democrats, with complicity from outlets like ABC and CBS, hid this reality. Jake Tapper’s book Original Sin details how Biden’s aides and family lied, framing his re-election bid as noble despite his incapacity {CITE: CNN, May 2025).

    A Washington Post-ABC poll (Feb. 2024) showed only 32% believed Biden was mentally sharp, yet Democrats gaslit voters, with Jill Biden denying decline on The View (ABC, May 2025).

    X posts from @themarketswork (April 27, 2025) slam this “public deception” as narcissistic.

    Biden’s June 2024 debate collapse, trailing off about “beating Medicare” forced his withdrawal, exposing the conspiracy (STAT, Aug. 20, 2024). Democrats’ lies shielded a failing leader, undermining our democracy and totally destroying the last shred and vestige of trust the American people might have had in the Democrat Party..

    There is simply no doubt that Democrat complicity in this MASSIVE lie and cover-up contributed GREATLY to the HUGE NUCLEAR SHELLACKING the Democrats received in Nov of 2024 at the hands of the American voter..

    And it's Democrat intransigence and bullheadedness refusal to take that long honest look in the mirror that is going to keep the Democrat Party in the wilderness for a long, LONG LONG time...

    The FACTS are clear and are simply indisputable... Which is why no one can dispute the facts and must simply whine and cry and stamp their feet hysterically that they don't like my posting style... :^/

    CITES:
    Fox News, May 2025
    NBC News, Feb 2024
    NY Times, Feb 2024
    CNN, May 2025
    Washington Post-ABC Poll, Feb 2024
    STAT, Aug 2024
    X post by @themarketswork, Apr 2025

  46. [46] 
    Kick wrote:

    Ewing proved that even in red states, a Democrat can still pull off a victory if they run a good campaign.

    When Ewing began to show promise in the polls, the opposition pulled out their recycled national GOP talking points and typical culture war bigoted ads and propaganda stoking LGBTQ+ hatred and transphobia, the typical bathroom BS and claiming Ewing wanted to "transition minors without their parents' consent."

    Democrats fought back (versus ignore it). One of their social media posts pictured the GOP candidate with her head sticking out of a bathroom stall:

    Nebraska Democratic Party
    @NebraskaDems

    Economics are at the top of people's minds, including potholes all over Omaha. Ewing will make lives better by focusing on issues that impact all of us.

    Jean Stothert and her allies are sending hateful mail and pushing creepy bathroom bills.

    Vote John Ewing on May 13.

    [photo] Jean is focused on potties.

    [photo] John is focused on fixing potholes.

    Nebraska Dems Twitter Post

    *
    Democrats didn't just limp to a win in Omaha, they flushed the GOP down the toilet in a most impressive 56.72% to 43.00% victory.

    Great choice for the award, CW. :)

  47. [47] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    1

    Heh.

    Bruce gave another concert wherein he KEPT HIS MOUTH OPEN and ignored Fat Donny.

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats didn't just limp to a win in Omaha, they flushed the GOP down the toilet in a most impressive 56.72% to 43.00% victory.

    And, of course, that MORE than makes up for the complete and utter NUCLEAR SHELLACKING that Headboard Harris and the Democrats received all over the rest of the country, eh??

    :eyeroll:

    I mean, yea.. Democrats were THOROUGHLY decimated, decapitated, destroyed, utterly demolished, totally dismantled, completely shattered, and TOTALLY smashed into tiny little bits all over the country!!!

    But hay.. Ya'all woke progressive Democrats got Omaha!!!

    Good job!!! :D

    I guess when ya'all woke progressive Democrats were completely and totally humiliated and thoroughly embarrassed and utterly shamed by PRESIDENT Trump.....

    Ya'all gotz to hold onto ANY little ray of sunshine you can find...

    No matter how miniscule that ray of sunshine may be.. :D

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bruce gave another concert wherein he KEPT HIS MOUTH OPEN and ignored Fat Donny.

    And look!!!

    Bruce pulls a JOE BIDEN!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTnudbiMvcE

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  50. [50] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    12

    the term "atrophied" doesn't seem like something Donald would come up with on his own, much less about skin. has he seen a dermatologist recently?

    Heh. That is exactly what I was thinking when I read that rant. :)

  51. [51] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    41

    If the story is correct and they did find the website of the guy who did it.

    This site is being reported as his.

    Whew...what a nutter. Dude was supposedly in to efilism, the belief that sentient life is bad and humans should not reproduce.

    Apparently, there is a video he posted to explain:

    “I figured I would just make a recording explaining why I’ve decided to bomb an IVF building, or clinic,” he said at the beginning of the recording. “Basically, it just comes down to I’m angry that I exist and that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here.”

    Describing himself as anti-life, he adds: “I’m very against [IVF], it’s extremely wrong. These are people who are having kids after they’ve sat there and thought about it. How much more stupid can it get?”

    Bartkus also set up a tripod with a camera in an effort to film his attack, but the file failed to upload to his website, according to law enforcement sources.

    In a FAQ section of his website, he further explains that his best friend Sophie shared similar views and recently died after convincing her boyfriend to shoot her as she slept. “IIRC we had agreed that if one of us died, the other would probably soon follow,” Bartkus wrote.

    Bomber of California fertility clinic identified, described himself as pro-mortalist

    He also had his best friend, of the opposite sex, commit suicide recently so it was likely more of a suicide than supporting his beliefs. At least he was the only person to die, so there is that..

    His description of his friend's "suicide" apparently matched the description of the death of Sophie Tinney, 27, of Fox Island, Washington, who was murdered while she slept in April by her boyfriend who was charged with second-degree murder.

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    His description of his friend's "suicide" apparently matched the description of the death of Sophie Tinney, 27, of Fox Island, Washington, who was murdered while she slept in April by her boyfriend who was charged with second-degree murder.

    Another Karmelo Abrego Garcia, eh??

    And, of course, being in WA State the woke progressive Democrats will make sure that the boyfriend, if he is a POC or an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL, gets just a slap on the wrist and an apology for being racist...

    :eyeroll:

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    Woke progressive Democrats chose their side..

    http://mfccfl.us/sides.jpg

    And THAT is why they are roaming the political wilderness to this day... :D

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    Interesting to note...

    Victoria COMPLETELY plagiarized Bashi's comment and passed off his words as her own..

    :^/

    Isn't it amazing how woke progressive Democrats ALWAYS do EXACTLY what they are accusing others of doing??

    It's uncanny....

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    Interesting info on this scumbag Left Wing terrorist..

    His “anti-natalist” views, described as hostile to Christianity and pro-natalism, were noted on X as aligning with far-left themes, though no formal group affiliation was confirmed.

    CITE: X

    What IS it about Left Wingers that they are invariably such nut jobs??

    Could it be that the preach complete tolerance for ANY ideas, no matter HOW whacked out they are?

    Like the whack-job Leftist who thinks she's a wolf...

    Democrats MUST accept her "feelings"....

    It's laughable...

  56. [56] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @kick/jfc,
    if Bruce really wants to speak up, i would think the most effective medium for a brilliant songwriter would be, y'know, a song.
    JL

  57. [57] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    Yea... One would think so, eh??

    So why hasn't he??

    Two possibilities exist..

    Bruce is unwilling to..

    OR

    Bruce is unable to...

    Which one is more soothing to the woke progressive Democrat collective guilt?? :D

    Quite the conundrum, eh?? :D

  58. [58] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    41

    FBI have searched his residence where he apparently resides or did reside with Dianne N. Bartkus, 63

    Sorry, I goofed the attributes quoting your post, but you know which words are yours. Hope this helps. :)

  59. [59] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    56

    if Bruce really wants to speak up, i would think the most effective medium for a brilliant songwriter would be, y'know, a song.

    Apparently, he provides his thoughts on the topic before he sings the songs:

    Land of Hope and Dreams
    House of a Thousand Guitars
    My City of Ruins

  60. [60] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    56

    Forgot to say: Exactly!

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yunno, what with woke progressive yammering on and on about reparations AGAIN, it's an interesting topic to delve into..

    Abraham Lincoln signed into law the creation of THE FREEDMANS BUREAU in 1865. This was "reparations" in the most basic definition of the term..

    Of course, they didn't call it that back in those days because they didn't have whiney progressives getting all butthurt over bullshit that had nothing to do with them..

    Anyways, the program provided food, housing, medical aid, education, and legal assistance to freed slaves and displaced Southerners.

    It also distributed supplies like clothing and rations and established schools (over 1,000 by 1869) and hospitals (e.g., Freedmen’s Hospital in Washington, D.C.) to address immediate needs post-Civil War {CITE: National Archives, Freedmen’s Bureau Records; PBS, Reconstruction Timeline}.

    The Bureau ALSO oversaw “abandoned” Confederate lands, with General William T. Sherman’s Special Field Orders No. 15 (January 1865) allocating 40-acre plots to some freedmen along the Georgia and South Carolina coasts.

    President Lincoln approved this order. By mid-1865, about 40,000 freedmen settled on 400,000 acres, but President Andrew Johnson (A DEMOCRAT!!!) reversed these grants, returning land to former owners {CITE: History.com, Forty Acres and a Mule}

    Granted, there were no actual cash payments but back then black Americans were simply happy to get help and were not the greedy materialistic BLM types that we see today...

    It was the DEMOCRAT PARTY who, regaining power post-Civil War, fiercely opposed the Bureau, viewing it as a symbol of federal overreach and REPUBLICAN-led Reconstruction.

    Democrats pressured Congress to limit its funding and scope, arguing it favored freed slaves over white Southerners {CITE: Foner, Reconstruction, 1988}.

    By 1872, DEMOCRAT gains in Congress, holding 104 House seats compared to Republicans’ 199 {CITE: Library of Congress, 42nd Congress}, amplified their ability to block extensions of the Bureau’s mandate.

    DEMOCRAT opposition aligned with President Andrew Johnson’s earlier reversals, like rescinding Sherman’s land grants, which weakened the Bureau’s impact {CITE: History.com, Forty Acres and a Mule}

    Due to DEMOCRAT actions in Congress, The Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned Lands, established on March 3, 1865, was dissolved by Congress in June 1872, with operations ceasing by July 1, 1872.

    So, the FACTS clearly show that, at one time black Americans HAD "reparations" of a sort that was part of a program started by REPUBLICANS and that DEMOCRATS opposed it and finally shut it down..

    "These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed.."
    -Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

  62. [62] 
    Michale wrote:

    Apparently, he provides his thoughts on the topic before he sings the songs:

    My City of Ruins

    He must have been singing about Minneapolis, Chicago, LA or any one of dozens and dozens of Democrat run shitholes..

    I'm just sayin'... :D

  63. [63] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    [56] Bruce Springsteen is a classic rock star. New music from aging classic rockers gets little notice. Besides, writing a good protest song is not easy. Most of them are not good.

    Bruce is going to release a bunch of albums that he recorded but never released. He knows that the orange snowflake can't ignore being trolled. Fat Donny is helping him sell his merch.

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    JFC,

    Bruce is going to release a bunch of albums that he recorded but never released. He knows that the orange snowflake can't ignore being trolled. Fat Donny is helping him sell his merch.

    You mean, like Democrats helped PRESIDENT Trump TOTALLY and UTTERLY DECIMATE AND DEMOLISH AND DESTROY the Democrats in the 2024 election and lead directly to the Democrats being COMPLETELY lost deep DEEP in the political wilderness...

    You mean like that?? :D

    Asking for a friend.. :D

  65. [65] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, I have been BINGE Watching LOKI (S1 & S2) today.. :D

    Gods, I love a 3 day weekend off!! :D

    Anyways, I was at this point in S02E04...

    "Everything is turning to SHIT and you want to leave everything to THEM (OB & Timely) to go and have some pie!!"
    -Sylvie

    I thought it funny because it reminded me of the part about pie in MEN IN BLACK III

    "Yeah, you know what? We've been doing smart stuff. We've been following clues, doing real police work. It might be time we do something stupid. Something that ain't got nothing to do with nothing. You know what? Now, I want some pie, K. I want some pie. Let's go get some dumb-ass pie."
    -Agent J, MEN IN BLACK III

    :D

  66. [66] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    age notwithstanding, Bruce is a brilliant writer. no, protest songs aren't easy, but all it takes is one good one, and there's no denying he has the skills.

  67. [67] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    63

    I know, right!? Springsteen baited Trump, and (as per usual) Fat Donny punched down.

    Fat Donny is helping him sell his merch.

    Exactly! :)

  68. [68] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    66

    age notwithstanding, Bruce is a brilliant writer. no, protest songs aren't easy, but all it takes is one good one, and there's no denying he has the skills.

    Yes, sir.

    People who believe Born in the U.S.A. is a celebration of America might want to pay attention to the lyrics. It's brilliant.

  69. [69] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    I've been a Springsteen fan since I was 16, but sorry, 75 year old Bruce does not have what 30 year old Bruce had. There's nothing unusual about that. He's already written the songs that are appropriate for the moment as Kick has pointed out.

    He's promoting a tour and a box set and speaking his mind. He's spent a lifetime working hard, producing great music, entertaining millions of fans and amassing a well-earned fortune. I think he knows what he's doing.

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    JFC,

    I've been a Springsteen fan since I was 16, but sorry, 75 year old Bruce does not have what 30 year old Bruce had.

    Yep... Just like 80 yr old Biden didn't have what 29 year old Biden had..

    Yet, ya'all STILL wanted him as POTUS... SMH...

    I think he knows what he's doing.

    He sure does!! :D

    Bruce Springsteen channels Joe Biden...

    :D

  71. [71] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @jfv,
    creative people don't stop being creative, and poetic ability is one of those skills that has the least diminishment over time. artists can produce great art, even when they're so far gone they're cutting their own ears off. Bruce may not have the chops to perform as he once did, but no way has he lost the ability to write a song.
    JL

  72. [72] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    whoops jfc, not jfv

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    I know, I know... I have said a few things about this..

    Now, let's give Maureen Dowd her say on the issue..

    The Tragedy of Joe Biden
    https://archive.is/4BKs7

    Yunno, I am going to give the Democrat Party (AND Weigantians) some sincere and heartfelt advice...

    If ya'all *EVER* hope to return from the political Black Forest, ya'all are going to have to come to grips with a LOT of bad aspects of the Democrat Party...

    Not the LEAST of which is the COMPLETE and UTTER loss in credibility that ya'all have achieved by lying again and again and again to the American people..

    Ya'all's howls and screams about PRESIDENT Trump as a liar???

    PRESIDENT Trump is a sainted knight of virtue and veritas compared to Joe Biden, the Democrats and the Democrat media...

    I can give ya this advice, heartfelt and sincere ONLY because I know it will fall on deaf ears...

    Democrats, including ya'all, will simply NEVER acknowledge ANY of the faults of the Democrat Party... ESPECIALLY such a large fault as the entire Joe Administration being one big lie for four years...

  74. [74] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    America . . . is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent and treasonous administration - Broooooooooooooooce

  75. [75] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    Bruce may not have the chops to perform as he once did, but no way has he lost the ability to write a song.

    Yea??

    When was the last time Bruce Springsteen had a #1 hit??

    Ooops... NEVER

    When was the last time Bruce Springsteen got a song in the Top Ten?? 1994 STREETS OF PHILADELPHIA #9

    "Of the metric ton of books I've read in my lifetime, Supernatural didn't even crack the top ten... thousand."
    -Metatron, SUPERNATURAL

    Springsteen’s recent work, like his 2022 album Only the Strong Survive, didn’t yield *ANY* Hot 100 singles.

    Face the objective reality, JL...

    The *ONLY* reason you claim to like Springsteen's music is SOLELY because of his politics... :eyeroll:

    Do yunno how I know??

    How do you like Kid Rock's music???

    :D

  76. [76] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    What a good little propagandist...

  77. [77] 
    Michale wrote:

    Quit being a jerk, Bash... :eyeroll:

    Refute my facts with facts of your own.. If you can...

  78. [78] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Weird.

  79. [79] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the HITS just Keep On Coming!!!

    Woke progressive Democrats' deliberate concealment of Joe Biden’s senility and dementia is a grotesque betrayal of the American people, exposing their cowardice and obsession with power over FACTS. There worship of political power over objective reality

    Michael LaRosa, former press secretary to Jill Biden, admitted the Biden campaign “gaslit” the public and journalists, fully aware from “day one” (20 Jan 2021) that Basement Biden’s age and cognitive decline were crippling liabilities {CITE: The Independent 2025}

    LaRosa revealed aides were “scared to death” of unscripted interviews, knowing Basement Biden’s memory lapses, evident in his 2023 Robert Hur interview where he forgot Beau’s 2015 death and his vice-presidential tenure, would unravel their facade {CITE: NBC NEWS May 2025}. Hur’s report labeled Biden a “well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” unfit for prosecution over mishandling classified files due to “diminished faculties” (NBC News, Feb. 8, 2024).

    Yet, Democrats and their media lapdog propagandists, ABC, CBS, and CNN, peddled compelte and utter lies, dismissing Biden’s June 2024 debate collapse, where he rambled about “beating Medicare” as a “mere cold”.. {CITE: STAT, Aug 2024}.

    Jake Tapper’s Original Sin exposes this “public deception,” with aides canceling national security meetings to shield Biden’s frailty CITE: CNN 2025}.

    A Washington Post-ABC poll showed only 32% believed Biden was mentally sharp, yet Democrats, including Jill Biden on The View, lied thru her teeth and denied his decline {CITE: ABC News 2025}.

    Michael LaRosa’s testimony to Puck News confirms the White House pressured CNN to blacklist him for questioning Basement Biden’s health, a claim CNN denied but reeks of fact given what we know now about CNN's sychopant-esque and softball coverage. {CITE: ABC NEWS, May 2025}

    This factual and PROVEN conspiracy, fueled by “narcissistic and self-delusional” motives, cost the woke progressive Democrats the 2024 election, with Harris’ loss tied to Biden’s reckless candidacy {CITE: Newsweek, Feb 2025}.

    X posts from @WallStreetMav {CITE: March 2025} slamed this “gaslighting” as a shameful cover-up .

    Democrats’ refusal to admit Biden’s dementia, even as he slurred and stumbled, wasn’t just political malpractice! It was a failure of morality, integrity and ethics. It completely robbed voters of an honest choice and endangering the nation under a faltering leader.

    Shame on Democrats for prioritizing party over country.

    SHAME... SHAME... SHAME on Democrats!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GiPcP30cFc

    As I said before...

    Until ya'all and Democrats in general can atone for this gross and perverse betrayal of the trust of the American people...

    Ya'all will have absolutely ZERO chance of getting out of the political Black Forest...

    CITES:

    The Independent, Feb 2025
    NBC NEWS May 2025
    NBC NEWS, Feb 2024
    STAT, Aug 2024
    CNN, May 2025
    ABC NEWS, May 2025
    Newsweek, Feb 2025
    X post by @WallStreetMav, Mar 2025

  80. [80] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Kick
    51

    Basically, it just comes down to I’m angry that I exist and that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here.

    Angry teenagers have been known to hurl this at their parents. But the fact is they all DID ask for this. In fact their little ultimately successful sperm cell became the Big Winner by swimming its ass off. Sounds like First Degree fertilization, yer Honor.

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    Basically, it just comes down to I’m angry that I exist and that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here.

    Then, of course, the LOGICAL next question would be, "How should we have obtained your consent." followed-up by the EQUALLY logical, "Further, no one under the age of 18 can LEGALLY give or withhold consent for ANYTHING."

    As I indicated above, this nutjob sounds like a hysterical Democrat who believes that children (even UNBORN CHILDREN, apparently) can make life-altering (or, in this case, LIFE NOT EVEN HAPPENING) decisions..

  82. [82] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Further, no one under the age of 18 can LEGALLY give or withhold consent for ANYTHING."

    Generally speaking..

    As with ALL legal matters, there are exceptions..

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    Can woke progressive Demcrats REALLY handle any more bad news???

    Joe Biden’s aggressive prostate cancer diagnosis, confirmed on May 16, 2025, with a Gleason score of 9 and bone metastasis, raises serious questions about how long this was hidden {CITE: CNN 2025}.

    Democrats, already caught concealing Biden’s senility and dementia, likely knew of his health decline earlier, given his urinary symptoms prompted the diagnosis {CITE: INDIA TODAY May 2025}.

    Why the secrecy? Was this known during his 2024 campaign, when his frailty was evident?

    The American voter deserves answers on this cover-up.

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    Consider all the hits and bad news that Democrats have been hit with since Friday...

    It seems RETREAT!!!! is what DEMOCRATS are screaming at the top of their lungs, eh!?? :D

  85. [85] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    80

    Basically, it just comes down to I’m angry that I exist and that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here.

    ~ Guy Edward Bartkus

    Let's just first clear it up that this is NOT something I said because I don't generally get angry, am ecstatic I exist, beat out millions of others to be here, and even brought somebody with me.

    Angry teenagers have been known to hurl this at their parents. But the fact is they all DID ask for this. In fact their little ultimately successful sperm cell became the Big Winner by swimming its ass off. Sounds like First Degree fertilization, yer Honor.

    Exactly right! And the really great ones come in multiples because they're not needy little jerks, and they don't mind sharing! :)

  86. [86] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    71

    artists can produce great art, even when they're so far gone they're cutting their own ears off.

    Yes, and maybe madness and severing off a portion of one's left earlobe and shooting oneself in the chest and causing one's own early demise can go a long way to produce a great artist after his death, whereas Springsteen is definitely a legend in his own time.

    Bruce may not have the chops to perform as he once did, but no way has he lost the ability to write a song.

    While I think he might have a few left in him, at this point he describes writing them as "pure torture" and "soul mining"... so far be it from me to wish madness upon the Boss. ;)

  87. [87] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @kick,
    call me greedy then, since he's already gone there in prose, i want Bruce to write something that really mines the depths of America's soul as it is right now. failing that, maybe I'll go and do it myself. here's a preview, no melody yet, but g

    JL

  88. [88] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    whoops my boys are making a chore of bedtime and one of them reached over the phone and managed to click submit.

  89. [89] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    here goes again, it's new and raw, no melody or chord progression yet, but it's what I've got:

    do you wonder what event the old man must be bent on plannin’
    sweatin’ to the mists of antebellum with Steve Miller and Steve Bannon,
    Chasing for the hardly coveted distinction still held by James Buchanan

    lying back at home Ivana must have known
    he'd want to run these half cocked migrant hunts
    fill the foreign stocks and lock the children in a cage
    since the only book she caught him reading even once
    was collected invective penned by Adolf H

    and if it's not forbidden
    by the agents of the state
    and if it's not too late for free expression to be had
    when his tale gets told and written,
    and a full accounting made,
    he wasn't even good at being bad
    JL

  90. [90] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    87

    call me greedy then, since he's already gone there in prose, i want Bruce to write something that really mines the depths of America's soul as it is right now. failing that, maybe I'll go and do it myself. here's a preview, no melody yet, but g

    You obviously left off at "greedy"!? Heh. Obviously, just kidding. :)

    whoops my boys are making a chore of bedtime and one of them reached over the phone and managed to click submit.

    Heh... and they'll blame the twins. ;)

    do you wonder what event the old man must be bent on plannin’
    sweatin’ to the mists of antebellum with Steve Miller and Steve Bannon,
    Chasing for the hardly coveted distinction still held by James Buchanan

    lying back at home Ivana must have known
    he'd want to run these half cocked migrant hunts
    fill the foreign stocks and lock the children in a cage
    since the only book she caught him reading even once
    was collected invective penned by Adolf H

    and if it's not forbidden
    by the agents of the state
    and if it's not too late for free expression to be had
    when his tale gets told and written,
    and a full accounting made,
    he wasn't even good at being bad

    ~ nypoet

    I love it and have written my answer in the form of a chorus. Heh.

    there's no question as to why:
    he's psychotically needy
    and unrepentantly greedy
    there's not enough money
    in this world as a whole
    to fill that incredibly needy soul
    he's a floppin' narcissistic ___ick
    fill-in-the blank with your own pick
    he's a dick, a prick, a bawdy limerick
    he's lower than Buchanan and Benedict,
    he's America's greatest ___ick

    ~ Kick

    Couldn't help myself. ;)

    Definitely do finish writing it! :)

  91. [91] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i'm not opposed to collaborating. on a song, that is.

  92. [92] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Kick
    85

    I’m sure I’ve mentioned that I, too, had a twin brother. Too big (that is, my size) to fight regularly and so it’s always been a first born comfort to know he spent the first nine months of his existence with his nose nestled in my butthole.

  93. [93] 
    Michale wrote:

    and so it’s always been a first born comfort to know he spent the first nine months of his existence with his nose nestled in my butthole.

    "EEEEeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww"
    -Ernest P Worrell

    It's amazing..

    SOOO much momentous political news going on and all ya'all can talk about is an over-the-hill rocker who can't walk up a flight of steps without falling and hasn't NEVER had a single #1 hit and how it's a comfort that one guy had his brother's nose resting up against the guy's anus...

    The lengths you people will go to maintain ya'all's presence in the deep DEEP political Black Forest..

    :eyeroll:

    whereas Springsteen is definitely a legend in his own time.

    A time which ended over 31 years ago....

    They guy's a luser and unworthy of worship...

    Now, KID ROCK.... THERE is a rocker!!!!

    He even has ROCK in his name!!! :D

  94. [94] 
    Michale wrote:

    I find it VERY difficult to believe that, with all the advanced medical assets that is afforded a POTUS, that a cancer THIS advanced and THIS far-spread was ONLY detected within the last week.. That's simply not possible.. Not with the deep DEEP medical screenings Joe Biden should have gone thru...

    I mean, it's not as if these Democrats have actually EARNED the American people's trust, eh??

    Quite the opposite in fact... These people have completely, totally and utterly EARNED the suspicion and scorn that ANY claim made by these Democrats is immediately suspect...

    But this is EXACTLY what happens when Democrats LIE so much and about EVERYTHING that anything they say is immediately discarded as another self-serving lie.....

    And ya'all have the gumption to whine and cry about PRESIDENT Trump's alleged "lies"!!??

    MIND-BOGGLING...

  95. [95] 
    Michale wrote:

    Welp, my work cycle starts today.. Work Mon & Tue... Off Wed, Thu, but I have the awards ceremony for EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER on Wed... :D Then back to my 3-day working weekend.. :D

    So, ya'all get a breather from Michale in defending ya'all's politics and ideology..

    Not that ya'all have put up ANY kind of defence... :eyeroll: I have been walking all over ya'all all weekend..

    Hell, Victoria spent 30 comments telling me how much she is IGNORING me!! :eyeroll:

    Anyways... Talk at ya'all later.. :D

  96. [96] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    91

    i'm not opposed to collaborating. on a song, that is.

    As you wish. :)

  97. [97] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    92

    I’m sure I’ve mentioned that I, too, had a twin brother.

    You did.

    Too big (that is, my size) to fight regularly and so it’s always been a first born comfort to know he spent the first nine months of his existence with his nose nestled in my butthole.

    I can unsee that because you know he had his own amniotic sac and wasn't really doing that. Heh.

  98. [98] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Kick

    Thanks for the information. You’re a real fucking friend. ;)

  99. [99] 
    Kick wrote:

    Heh. :)

  100. [100] 
    Michale wrote:

    I am going to give you people a VERY special gift..

    NOT that ya'all deserve it in any way shape or form..

    The gift is more for CW than ya'all, but ya'all get the benefit...

    I am gonna give ya'all the gift of a Michale-free commentary..

    Namely:

    https://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/05/19/johnson-tries-to-thread-the-budget-needle/

    But I STILL have some things to address in THIS commentary, so I'll confine my remarks today to THIS commentary..

    They will be short as it is WAY past my bedtime.. :D

    MOVING ON....

    Meanwhile, Stephen Miller is out there floating the idea that Trump could just suspend habeas corpus rights, on the pretext that America was somehow at war or being invaded.

    NOT factually accurate.. At the VERY least, it's misleading..

    PRESIDENT TRUMP has indeed floated the idea of suspending habeas corpus rights.. But ONLY for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS..

    This is VERY justified as there is NO ONE with more than two brain cells to rub together that we actually HAVE been invaded... Thanx to the Joe Biden/Headboard Harris' corrupt junta....

    So, this is a GOOD plan to get rid of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS even faster...

    ***WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ELECTED TO DO!!!***

    So, cry all you want..

    But facts are facts.. 99% of Americans want this ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT situation cleaned up...

    The 1%???

    Who gives a flying frak what THEY think!!???

  101. [101] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, let's address the Basement Biden cancer issue...

    Under the ISN'T IT IRONIC heading...

    Isn't it ironic that Basement Biden dropped the "OH PITY ME I HAVE CANCER!!" announcement IMMEDIATELY after the release of the Special Prosecutor HUR audio that was COMPLETELY and UTTERLY devastating to Basement Biden's "legacy"..

    Such as it is... :eyeroll:

    ESPECIALLY when Basement Biden himself admitted he had cancer back in 2022...

    It's ALSO *VERY* interesting to note that ***ALL*** Presidents since 2000 have ALWAYS released the results of their annual physicals, INCLUDING their prostate results..

    Bush, Odumbo, Trump...

    ALL of them have released the numbers on their prostate results.. Actually MENTIONED the results of their prostate exams..

    ** BASEMENT BIDEN NEVER DID!!! ***

    Things that make ya go...... hmmmmmmmmm???

    The facts clearly indicate that Basement Biden's handlers have KNOWN about Biden's prostate cancer since mid 2020... They were holding on to this little "chestnut" to release it at a time when they needed a big OH PITY ME distraction...

    Apparently, the DEVASTATING and DECIMATING SPECIAL PROSECUTOR HUR audio was exactly the incident that NEEDED such a hi power OH PITY ME distraction...

    THESE are the topics that Democrats (and Weigantians, incidentally) need to be resolving...

    Because, until they (and ya'all) do???

    Democrats have absolutely NO HOPE of even being elected county dog catcher...

    :eyeroll:

  102. [102] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, yesterday I gave ANOTHER gift to ya'all Weigantians AND the Democrat Party..

    I gave ya'all the gift of very VERY sound advice...

    Imagine my surprise AND elation when I discover that THAT exact same VERY sound advice came from the woke progressive Democrat's woke progressive Democrat....

    VAN JONES...

    Mr Jones, a former Obama advisor and CNN commentator, delivered a blistering critique of the Democratic Party’s 2024 election loss, urging them to confront their failures and apologize for deceiving Americans.

    On State of the Union Jones declared, “Right now, we need to apologize to the American people that we were part of something that wasn’t on the up and up”.

    Get that, people!?? Let's repeat that for the cheap seats..

    "RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WE WERE PART OF SOMETHING THAT ***WASN'T*** ON THE UP AND UP.."
    -Woke Progressive Democrat Van Jones..

    Let's review a bit, shall we??

    "Yunno, I am going to give the Democrat Party (AND Weigantians) some sincere and heartfelt advice...

    If ya'all *EVER* hope to return from the political Black Forest, ya'all are going to have to come to grips with a LOT of bad aspects of the Democrat Party...

    Not the LEAST of which is the COMPLETE and UTTER loss in credibility that ya'all have achieved by lying again and again and again to the American people.."
    -Michale, 18 May 2025

    And the VERY NEXT DAY we have VAN JONES (the quintessential Woke Progressive Democrat) saying the EXACT same thing...

    You people (AND Democrats across the country) need to come to grips with the OBJECTIVE REALITY of the here and now..

    Until such time as ya'all can do a FACTUAL and SINCERE accounting of ALL the mistakes your PARTY has made in the last 4 years??

    Ya'all will NEVER EVER leave the political Black Forest... Ya'all can kiss ANY chance of a decent showing in the 2026 mid-terms goodbye...

    You don't have to take MY word for it..

    Listen to VAN JONES...

    Jones labeled the cover-up of Joe Biden’s mental decline a “crime against the Republic,”</B asserting, “The book makes it very, very clear there are people who knew ALL ABOUT Biden's decline and said nothing”

    This refers to Jake Tapper’s Original Sin, exposing how Democrats hid Biden’s senility, evident in his 2023 Hur interview where he forgot key personal details..

    Van Jones ALSO argued Democrats must face why they lost: a flawed media strategy and failure to connect with voters.

    “We got beat because the conservatives built a different media system,” -Van Jones

    Jones noted that PRESIDENT Trump’s dominance on podcasts and streaming platforms.

    Democrats’ obsession with traditional media left them “in a body bag,” as Jones put it, while 69% of Americans viewed them as out of touch..

    X posts from @JesseParris5280 echo this, slamming Democrats’ refusal to adapt.

    The call for an apology isn’t just rhetoric!! It’s a demand for accountability!!

    Woke progressive Democrats blatantly and unequivocally ***LIED*** about Biden’s fitness.

    A HILARIOUS irony, considering how much woke progressive Democrats whine and cry and stamp their feet about PRESIDENT Trump's supposed "lies"...

    :eyeroll:

    Only 32% ***OF DEMOCRATS*** believe Basement Biden was mentally sharp {Washington Post-ABC Poll 2024> The Democrat Party gaslighting cost them the presidency and Senate, with PRESIDENT Trump sweeping **ALL** of this SWING STATES and winning the POPULAR VOTE BY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF VOTERS....

    Van Jones’ insistence on reorganization and purging “bad ideas” is a wake-up call.

    But, of course, the Trump/America hate is simply imbedded TOO deep into woke progressive Democrats...

    I mean, how bad is it when even JL succumbs to Trump/America hate and still feeds the WE CAN JUST WIN THIS IF WE HATE ON TRUMP MORE!!!! bullshit...

    Democrats’ (and ya'all's) silence suggests they (and ya'all) are STILL dodging reality.

    Shame on them (AND YA'ALL) for betraying the trust that the American people put in woke progressive Democrats...

    An apology for all the LIES and the SPIN and the BULLSHIT????

    THAT is the LEAST you people owe the American people...

    Fox News, May 16, 2025
    Washington Post, March 2025
    Washington Post-ABC Poll, Feb. 2024

  103. [103] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Doctors are only allowed to comment on a patient’s medical condition as the patient wants them to say.

    6’3” 224lbs.!!!

    That is what Trump’s doctors have claimed his height and weight are.

    In April 2023, Trump was charged in New York with 34 felony counts related to business fraud. His booking documents (that HIS lawyers released) stated he was 6 feet and 2 inches tall and weighed 240 pounds. At the time, Trump called the case "an insult to our country."

    Three months later, in August 2023, Trump surrendered at Fulton County Jail in Atlanta on charges of plotting to overturn the state's 2020 election results. Those records had him at 6 feet and 3 inches tall and 215 pounds—suggesting he grew an inch and lost 25 pounds. Trump was really hitting the gym hard during this time, obviously.

    In his recent physical, Trump also cleared the cognitive portion of the assessment, with a score of "30 out of 30," the memo read. No one bothered to tell Trump that THAT test is not part of a standard physical.

    A person’s medical information is THEIR information, regardless of their job. Many Americans of that era were surprised to learn FDR was in a wheelchair while he was President.

    So before you keep harping on at how wrong Biden was to keep his cancer a secret, just repeatedly say, “6’3” and 224lbs.” 100 times before you bring it up again. Hopefully, you can see the hypocrisy for yourself and remain silent.

  104. [104] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    If only hypocrisy was still in the Republican vocabulary. And irony and accountability and rule of law.

    I long ago stopped hand-wringing when Republican’s do any of the above and it’s OUR problem if we don’t like it. They don’t even pretend to care anymore.

  105. [105] 
    Michale wrote:

    Russ,

    Doctors are only allowed to comment on a patient’s medical condition as the patient wants them to say.

    That's right...

    And Biden's handlers did NOT what the doctor to say ANYTHING about the results of Biden's prostate examine..

    The question ya'all don't want to ask yourselves is WHY!??

    As to the rest...

    This ISN'T about PRESIDENT Trump..

    The fact that you go there, even though this is ALL completely about Biden's handlers LYING to the American people for FOUR YEARS, simply proves you concede my facts..

    And I graciously accept your concession..

    Just know this..

    Democrats will NEVER find their way out of the political Black Forest until they do 2 things..

    1. APOLOGIZE to the American people.

    2. Take an HONEST and SINCERE look in the mirror and make an HONEST and RATIONAL assessment of exactly why they lost 2024 so completely and utterly badly..

    I'll give ya'all a hint for #2...

    The answer is NOT a lack of passionate Trump/America hate..

    Caddy,

    It's hilarious to hear a Democrat talk about "the rule of law"...

    Didn't you get the message from the 2024 Uber Nuclear Shellacking that Democrats received??

    Democrats threw out the rules of the rule of law... :eyeroll:

    THAT is why they got beat so badly..

    The American voters are sick and tired of what Democrats have done to this country... Sick of the Democrat lies and deceit and backroom dealings...

    And, until such time as those Democrats involved in all the lies and such APOLOGIZE to the American people, your Democrats will continue to roam the political Black Forest..

    They will keep being pushed further and further away deeper and deeper into the political Black Forest..

    Your Democrats can kiss the 2026 midterms and the 2028 elections goodbye....

    It's time for your Democrats to confess their sins to the American voter..

    Until they do????

    Hope you enjoy being part of a Party that will lose again and again and again..

    But hay... At least ya'all got Omaha.... :eyeroll:

  106. [106] 
    Michale wrote:

    PRESIDENT Trump won ANOTHER SCOTUS victory yesterday!!

    The 5-4 ruling in Trump v. National TPS Alliance lifted a lower court’s injunction, affirming PRESIDENT Trump's supreme executive authority to deport illegal immigrants, a massive win for America First!!

    Solicitor General John Sauer totally shredded Judge Chen’s overreach, arguing TPS terminations are discretionary, not discriminatory..

    With more than 80% of Americans backing criminal deportations, PRESIDENT Trump's hard-line stance resonates.

    X posts from @gatewaypundit (May 19, 2025) hail this as a crushing blow to “woke judges.”

    Unlike Biden’s open-border chaos, PRESIDENT Trump is restoring order, proving Trump's immigration vision is unstoppable.

    I am SURE that PRESIDENT Trump is NOT getting tired of winning!! I know I am not.. :D

  107. [107] 
    Michale wrote:

    VERY interesting factoid here.. :D

    Bernie Sanders was asked:

    "Could we not also say, ostensibly, there hasn’t been a fair primary for the Democrats since 2008, are they not also a threat to democracy?"

    Bernie's response??

    "Yes. Fair enough. I’m not going to argue with that point. And that’s why I’m proudly an Independent."

    This is Weigantian Hero Bernie Sanders stating for the record that the Democrat Party *IS* a threat to the US Democracy...

    We live in interesting times.. :D

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