The House January 6th Select Committee Hearings [Episode 6]

[ Posted Tuesday, June 28th, 2022 – 15:58 UTC ]

Donald Trump, when he was president, was mocked in many ways. The most amusing of all, though, was the giant balloon someone created of Trump caricatured as a baby, in diapers, clutching a cell phone in one of his tiny hands.

Today's hearing in front of the House Select Committee on January 6th proved beyond a shadow of a doubt what most observant people had already realized: Donald Trump was indeed nothing but a big baby. He is a man-child whose mental age seems stuck somewhere between two years old and perhaps five. He throws tantrums. He throws his own food. He cares about nothing but satisfying his own warped urges. His biggest concern on January 6th was that the crowd size of his rally looked impressive on television. He continually harps on this, speaking just this week about his crowd that day as (of course) the biggest, hugest crowd ever to assemble. It's all about Donald Trump's ego, and it always has been.

This was revealed at today's hearing, in great detail.

The sole witness called was a top aide to White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. Cassidy Hutchinson was either in the room for important meetings or she spoke with the participants immediately afterwards. She was no low-level staffer, she was able to give an extraordinary first-person viewpoint as a Trump White House insider.

Not widely known yet (as I write this) is a shocking report from Punchbowl News that today's hearing was apparently called on such short notice because the committee feared for her safety. That's an extraordinary thing to say, but it certainly sounds plausible. Vice Chair Liz Cheney noted, at the very end of the hearing, that some of the committee's witnesses had been reporting attempts to intimidate them by former colleagues and those in "Trump World." This is the behavior of a mob boss, plain and simple. Today's hearing was a surprise -- called at the last minute, with no statement of what would be covered or who would appear -- and that seems to have been due to the committee wanting to get her testimony on record as soon as possible because they are concerned about her safety.

Again, that is an extraordinary thing to say. But it isn't all that surprising, really. When Trump throws a tantrum, he expects results. Baby Trump is also Mob Boss Trump, and that thought should frighten us all.


Public Hearings of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol [Episode 6]

Today's hearing was conducted (with the exception of the official actions with the gavel of opening, announcing a recess, and closing the hearing) entirely by Vice Chair Liz Cheney. Cheney asked all the questions and directed the flow of the information being presented.

Chair Bennie Thompson opened with one remark that seemed to be rhetorical when I jotted it down, but now I am not as sure: "The truth won't be buried. The American people won't be left in the dark." That certainly sounds different after reading that the committee feared for the safety of the witness.

Cheney began by showing a map of where Cassidy Hutchinson worked, just off the office of the chief of staff and the vice president, or a short 5-10 second walk down the hall from the Oval Office.

Cheney started the questioning by asking about a meeting with Rudy Giuliani on January 2nd. Hutchinson testified she heard Rudy tell her: "We're going to the Capitol. It's going to be great. The president's going to be there. He's going to look powerful." When Hutchinson mentioned this conversation to her boss Mark Meadows, he replied: "There's a lot going on. Things might get real, real bad on January sixth." Hutchinson testified what her own reaction to all of this was: "That evening was the first moment when I remember feeling scared... nervous about what would happen on January sixth."

In other words: this crime was premeditated, it did not just spontaneously happen.

We then got a rundown of how the day unfolded as told by police reports from the scene. The Secret Service and other law enforcement agencies knew that the potential for violence existed. They reported seeing people with ballistic helmets and body armor. They saw an AR-15 rifle and "Glock-style pistols." They saw knives, poles made into spears, and bear spray. One Capitol Police bulletin starkly warned: "Congress itself is the target." When Meadows was informed of all this, Hutchinson testified that he barely even reacted: "I distinctly remember him not looking up from his phone." He wasn't interested. The president was informed, and nothing happened. Meadows "did not act on those concerns."

Cheney then asked about what happened at the rally at the Ellipse. Hutchinson spent the rally backstage, in a tent, where she couldn't really hear what was going on out on the stage. But before Trump spoke, he was reportedly "furious" because he wanted the crowd to appear as big as possible on television: "He was furious because he wanted the arena we had a the Ellipse to be maxed out to capacity." He "was concerned about the [television] shots."

Many people weren't going through the security checkpoint (where they had to pass through a metal detector -- a magnetometer, or "mag") because they could see and hear the stage from outside the secure area. Trump was not happy about this, and assumed there was some sort of backup at the checkpoints. When told this was not the case, but that those people weren't coming in because they were armed and didn't want to have to give up their weapons, Trump exploded:

I overheard the president say something to the effect of: "You know, I don't effing care that they have weapons. They're not here to hurt me. Take the effing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in. Take the effing mags away."

Hutchinson edited Trump's words to say only "effing" in her testimony, it's worth noting, rather than use the vulgarity Trump assumably actually used.

When it became "clear to us" that the police protecting the Capitol were being overrun, Hutchinson tried to tell Meadows, but Meadows showed no interest whatsoever -- he "almost had a lack of reaction" to hearing that more officers were desperately needed.

Many people tried to get Trump to tone down the speech he gave that day, to no avail. When he spoke, Trump lit into Vice President Mike Pence repeatedly, and got his mob to focus on him while the riot was happening.

In the days leading up to the rally, we learned that Trump was pushing hard for either walking with or riding in his car alongside the march up to the Capitol. Pat Cipollone, from the White House counsel's office, was adamant that this not happen: "We have serious legal concerns if we go up to the Capitol today.... Please make sure we don't go up to the Capitol.... We're going to get charged with every crime imaginable" if that does happen. He was specifically concerned with "potentially obstructing justice" and even "inciting or encouraging a riot."

After Trump's speech at the rally, he first pressured the Secret Service to allow him to go to the Capitol, and then had a major temper tantrum when told it wasn't possible. There's just no other way to describe it. Trump really wanted to walk with the mob, but he would have been satisfied if he had been driven to the Capitol, where he would either (according to Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani) give another speech outside the Capitol or go "into the House chamber."

Stop and think about that for a moment. What would have happened if he had gotten his way? Would we have seen Trump's Secret Service detail fighting Capitol Hill policemen? Would Trump have tried to order the cops guarding the Capitol to stand down? What would have happened to Mike Pence? Frightening thoughts indeed....

Hutchinson then reported a conversation she had had with a Secret Service agent after everyone got back to the White House. He asked her: "Did you effing hear what happened in the Beast?" [The "Beast" is the term used for the president's armored car, his personal transport.]

She was told that Trump thought they were going to the Capitol when he got in the car. Robert ("Bobby") Engel, the head of the Secret Service detail for Trump told him: "We're not." Trump had a "very strong, very angry response to that," and was "irate." Here's what happened next:

The president said something to the effect of: "I'm the effing president, take me up to the Capitol now." To which [Secret Service agent Bobby Engel] responded: "Sir, we have to go back to the West Wing." The president reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Engel grabbed his arm and said: "Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we're going back to the West Wing. We're not going to the Capitol."

Trump then made a "lunge" for Bobby Engel's "clavicles" and had to be further restrained.

The first segment of the hearings wrapped up with more stories of Trump's unhinged behavior. After Bill Barr told a reporter that the Justice Department simply had no evidence of voter fraud on any widespread scale, Trump was so furious that he apparently hurled his lunch at the wall. Hutchinson testified that she went into his dining room afterwards, and found the server picking up the pieces of a broken china plate under "ketchup dripping down the wall." She grabbed a towel and "started wiping ketchup off the wall."

You know, just like a 2-year-old throwing a tantrum would do.

Here is how HuffPost transcribed this testimony:

I remember hearing noise coming from down the hallway, so I poked my head out of the office and I saw the valet walking towards our office. He had said, "Get the chief down to the dining room; the president wants him." So Mark [Meadows] went down to the dining room [and] came back to the office a few minutes later.

After Mark had returned, I left the office and went down to the dining room, and I noticed that the door was propped open and the valet was inside the dining room changing the tablecloth off of the dining room table. He motioned for me to come in and then pointed towards the front of the room near the fireplace mantel on the TV, where I first noticed there was ketchup dripping down the wall, and there was a shattered porcelain plate on the floor.

The valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general's AP interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall, which was causing them to have to clean up, so I grabbed a towel and started wiping the ketchup off of the wall to help the valet out. And he said something to the effect of, "He's really ticked off about this, so I would stay clear of him for right now. He's really, really ticked off about this right now."

There were several times throughout my tenure with the chief of staff that I was aware of him either throwing dishes or flipping the tablecloth to let all the contents at the table go onto the floor and likely break or go everywhere.

In other words, he had these man-baby tantrums on a regular basis.

This ended the first half of today's hearing, exactly one hour after it began. A 10-minute recess was called and, 15 minutes later, the hearing resumed.

The second part of the hearing got underway with a few questions about Roger Stone and General Michael Flynn -- both of whom had to be pardoned or their sentence commuted by Trump for federal crimes unrelated to January 6th, Cheney helpfully pointed out. She played a clip of Flynn exercising his Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate himself, including (astonishingly) taking the Fifth to the question: "Do you believe in the peaceful transfer of power?" Flynn couldn't honestly answer that under oath, which certainly says something.

When asked about the events at around 2:00 P.M. on January 6th, Hutchinson testified that she tried to get her boss Mark Meadows to care about the fact that the United States Capitol was under violent attack: "Hey, are you watching the TV, chief?... The rioters are getting really close. Have you talked to the president?" The answer she got: "No, he wants to be alone right now."

Hutchinson then got frustrated: "I remember thinking in that moment, Mark needs to snap out of this and I don’t know how to snap him out of this. He needs to care."

But he didn't. Until Pat Cipollone barrelled into his office:

I remember Pat saying to [Meadows], something to the effect of: "The rioters have gotten to the Capitol, Mark, we need to go down and see the president now." And Mark looked up at and said, "He doesn't want to do anything, Pat."

Cipollone responded forcefully: "Mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your effing hands. This is getting out of control. I'm going down there."

What all this shows is that a competent White House chief of staff might have actually done something proactive to stop the events of January 6th, but that did not happen. Trump had already hired and fired many chiefs, and he wound up with Mark Meadows precisely because he was spineless and had no leadership qualities to speak of.

Hutchinson later heard part of the meeting between Cipollone, Meadows, and Trump, as she brought a phone to her boss so he could talk with Jim Jordan, who was down at the Capitol. This was the precise moment when the "Hang Mike Pence!" chant could be heard on the televisions. When Meadows and Cipollone returned to the office after the meeting, Cipollone told her Trump was "calling for the vice president to be effing hung." This was because: "He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn't think they're doing anything wrong." Minutes later, Trump tweeted out his displeasure with Pence, which just whipped the crowd into an even bigger frenzy.

Hutchinson reported her own feelings, at that point: "As an American, I was disgusted. It was unpatriotic. It was un-American. We were watching the Capitol building get defaced over a lie." Others felt the same, and excerpts from a few of the resignation letters Trump got that day were read into evidence, including one which flat-out said: "I read that tweet, and made the decision to resign." Two cabinet members -- Betsy DeVos and Elaine Chao -- also resigned.

Hutchinson laid out three groups of people in the White House, one group who urged Trump to take swift and decisive action (which included both Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner), one group who was somehow "neutral" and appeared content to just keep their heads down, and one group who wanted the strategy to be "deflect and blame."

Trump was very reluctant to record a video or issue any kind of statement telling the insurrectionists to leave the Capitol and go home. He finally did release a video at 4:17, where he told the rioters: "We love you, you're very special."

Hutchinson recounted how Trump was also very reluctant to give a speech the next day, and pushed back on the text he would be expected to read. He still didn't think the mob "did anything wrong," and Trump refused to condemn the violence in any way. He also pushed to include a line in the speech offering pardons to everyone involved. Mark Meadows also wanted this language in the speech, which isn't too surprising since Mark Meadows (as well as plenty of others, including Rudy Giuliani) wanted a pardon from Trump, just in case he was ever called to account for his actions (and inaction).

This was the final bombshell of the day, and Cheney and Thompson then wrapped up the proceedings.



Cheney used her closing remarks to issue a rather vague warning. She did not use the names of anyone involved, but she read a few statements from witnesses the committee had called. They read exactly like a witness in a RICO case being threatened by a mob boss, as previously mentioned. Cheney stated: "I think most Americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully presents very serious concerns," but didn't make any explicit promises about what the committee would do with any potential witness tampering or intimidation.

It is all of a piece. Donald Trump hates to be told "No." When he is told that reality is not the same as the fantasy world he lives in within his own brain, he lashes out. He throws things. He grabs for a steering wheel. He attacks the Secret Service agent who is supposed to be protecting him. That right there would seem to be a federal crime -- not the most serious uncovered by this investigation, but perhaps the easiest to prove.

Donald Trump was told there were weapons being carried by people in the crowd who had come to hear him speak. He didn't care. He wanted to invite them into the rally anyway, weapons and all. He didn't care that the Capitol was being attacked. He didn't care that Mike Pence's life was in danger, and would most likely have been happy to see the mob hang him right outside the United States Capitol. Trump wanted to be leading the rioters, even inside the Capitol. He tried to wrestle away control of the steering wheel of the car that was driving him, throwing an absolute epic tantrum over being told he couldn't go. He threw his lunch at the wall when he heard Bill Barr tell the American public that the Big Lie was indeed a big lie. He was actually known for throwing his food around in this fashion, because apparently it was a regular occurrence. The only thing he really cared about that day was that his crowd was as big as possible, for the television cameras.

There is only one possible conclusion after hearing the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson. It was revealed today that the Secret Service moniker for Trump was "MOGUL." But realistically, it should have been "BIG BABY."

-- Chris Weigant


Follow Chris on Twitter: @ChrisWeigant


87 Comments on “The House January 6th Select Committee Hearings [Episode 6]”

  1. [1] 
    Kick wrote:


    Donald Trump, when he was president, was mocked in many ways. The most amusing of all, though, was the giant balloon someone created of Trump caricatured as a baby, in diapers, clutching a cell phone in one of his tiny hands.

    FUN FACT: The Trump blimp that flew over Parliament Square in London during Trump's visit to the UK in July 2018 has been acquired by the Museum of London... for all posterity:

    The video doesn't lie; the London toddler blimp suits Toddler Trump to a "T" :)

  2. [2] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:



    BTW Kick, are you a DI by
    any chance?

    Rephrase the question, please. :)

    Are you a Drill Instructor?

  3. [3] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    I apparently did not rewind to the very beginning of today's Hearing and missed the whole part about Trump being more concerned about his optics than that his mob was armed.

    My take on today's Hearing, FPC,


  4. [4] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:


    ... because that's a huge pair of ladyballs you got on you.

    -- Negan


  5. [5] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:
  6. [6] 
    Kick wrote:


    There is only one possible conclusion after hearing the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson.

    You cannot say you weren't given ample warning since I gave you a preview 18 days prior:

    Upcoming testimony not to be missed: Cassidy Hutchinson, Executive Assistant to Mark Meadows and eyewitness to lots of things. She (reportedly) told the January 6th Committee that she was eyewitness to Mark Meadows incinerating documents after he met with Rep. Scott Perry after the 2020 election. As you may remember, the House committee released testimony in April that Hutchinson named Perry, Jim Jordan, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Lauren Boebert as the members of Congress "who were raising the idea of the vice president doing anything other than just counting electoral votes on January the 6th." She also testified that Perry had vocally supported the idea of urging Trump's supporters on a march toward the Capitol. She also testified about another meeting wherein she witnessed Republicans discussing delaying the joint session of Congress (illegal). She testified that that meeting was attended by Jordan and Greene as well as at least nine other Republican lawmakers.

    On May 25, Politico reported that the Jan. 6 select committee heard testimony indicating that Meadows heard Trump say something supportive about those who were chanting "hang Mike Pence" during the riot. A witness told the committee that Meadows had been in the dining room off the Oval Office when Trump made the comment and that Meadows told people nearby "that Trump had signaled a positive view of the prospect of hanging the vice president."

    Friday, June 10th, 2022 at 19:06

    More shoes going to drop like a Stone because everybody had a film crew.

    It was revealed today that the Secret Service moniker for Trump was "MOGUL." But realistically, it should have been "BIG BABY."

    Secret Service code names are one word. Better to go with one of the following for the Tiny-Handed, Cheeto-Faced, Diaper-Wearing Shitgibbon:

    "INFANT" -- Defined as 29 days to 24 months
    "NEONATE" -- Defined as 0-28 days
    "ZYGOTE" -- Defined as a "baby" but only by stupid people.

  7. [7] 
    Kick wrote:


    Are you a Drill Instructor?

    I thought that was what you were asking, but then I didn't want to assume that you didn't mean Disabled Individual or Defense Intelligence.

    Well then, the answer to your question is: Been there, done that. :)

  8. [8] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    I remember thinking at some point that might have been the case, due to references to folks you've trained.

  9. [9] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:



  10. [10] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Although advised by my twin brother just days before going to Basic that I'd have problems adjusting to the Army I loooved MY Army, took care of MY Army* and if I didn't get orders for CA I would have gone Airborne with the goal of becoming a DI, myself.

    The process of taking a bunch of knuckleheads and molding the ones that can hang into the the finest Fighting Force known to mankind would have given me great pleasure. Fuck OCS that's what I would have done if I stayed in.

    *As in...

    I TOLD you... it's MY island.

    The Irish Guy

  11. [11] 
    Kick wrote:

    Give your soul to Jesus because your ass belongs to ME!

    Heh. :)

  12. [12] 
    Speak2 wrote:

    Pete Souza put it well (Obama's Photog (?) trolling):
    Paraphrase: So, Trump is guilty of destroying government property, if nothing else.

  13. [13] 
    Speak2 wrote:

    More seriously, as stirring as Ms Cheney's closing remarks were, people seem to be missing Mr Thompson's follow up.

    Side note, Congressman Thompson said more than you gave him credit for, CW.

    Back to our regularly scheduled program.

    He followed up by taunting the outlier witnesses for not testifying or pleading the fifth. The truth will out.

    To paraphrase again, if anyone suddenly starts remembering or if anyone finds some courage that had been in hiding, the Committee's doors are open.

    That was a beautiful bit of, what's the right word? Is it trolling? Snark? It's something and it was righteously vicious!!!

  14. [14] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Ditto, that!

    The Homer's over at Muckfichi -- er, predict Our Boys will be undefeated going into The Game 26 November.

  15. [15] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Give or take @ Iowa.

  16. [16] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:


    As you seem to expect Weigantia to give you hours of attention and respond to every last bit of it I expect you to invest 6:06 of your time in this reaction to Trump's "denial" to today's compelling J6C revelations.

    Be prepared to discuss.

    In the event you wuss out, here's the skinny:

    Trump took issue with being obsessed with crowd size and the temper tantrums, the in character Trump image stuff. Denying the coup or the dead Mike "He deserves it" Pence thing...crickets.

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, it seems ya'all got over your baby killing butt hurt... :D

    Maybe there is hope for ya'all after all.. :D

    But as far as today's session of the Cardassian Show Trial that is the 6JC..

    Trump/America hater Cassidy's testimony has already been refuted by Secret Service agents..

    So, just another Trump/America hater spewing nonsense..

    Just like every other day that ends in a 'Y'...

    Another Russia Collusion delusion..


  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yunno, MC...

    I have watched several of your videos, including the cop-hating Beau something or a rather...

    And you have yet to address ANY of the questions I put to you..

    So, why in the hell would you think I would continue to answer your questions when you can't even deign to answer even one of mine??

    Want to field that one???

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    Remember how ya'all claimed that Democrats are not REALLY defunding police??

    West Hollywood votes to cut Los Angeles County sheriff funding amid crime wave

    The move to reduce police funding comes amid a crime wave in Los Angeles County and public opposition

    As usual, ya'all were totally talking out yer arse....

    Violent crime is up 137% and West Hollywood actually defunded LASO...

    And ta think there are STILL people here who think that Democrats will do OK in November... :eyeroll:

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    Secret Service Is Reportedly Prepared to Testify Trump Didn’t Try to Commandeer Limo on Jan. 6, Despite Hutchinson Account

    “A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel,” tweeted NBC News Chief White House Correspondent Peter Alexander on Tuesday.

    “New: Source close to the Secret Service tells [ABC News chief justice correspondent Pierre Thomas] to expect the Secret Service to push back against any allegation of an assault against an agent or President Trump reaching for the steering wheel,” tweeted ABC News executive producer John Santucci.

    Just another Trump/America hater trying to bring down President Trump..

    Wonder how much Democrats paid her to spew her bullshit.. :eyeroll:

    The reports come from Democrat Water Carriers NBC and ABC, so the reports that favor President Trump are credible...

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:


    More seriously, as stirring as Ms Cheney's closing remarks were, people seem to be missing Mr Thompson's follow up.

    Ms Cheney??

    Oh yea.. She's the Trump/America hater that's going to be out of a job come Jan, right???

    Who cares what she says.. She's a lame duck...

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    GOP lawmakers sound off on Biden admin directing teen mothers to abortion: ‘Shame on you, Mr. President'

    Rep. Elise Stefanik of New York said the Biden admin is once again 'trying to undermine parents’ role in their children’s lives'

    GOP lawmakers torched President Biden over his administration promoting, a website that provides information to expecting mothers on where to get an abortion and how to circumvent parental notification laws where such laws exist.

    House Republican Conference chairwoman Elise Stefanik of New York told Fox News Digital the "Biden administration should be ashamed for helping minors bypass their parents to abort an unborn child."

    How low can Biden's Handlers and Democrats sink that they would actively encourage children to ignore their parents..

    It's no wonder that Democrats are so out of step with decent patriotic Americans..

    I honestly can't believe ANY parent who is a decent human being would vote for Democrats... :eyeroll:

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, for the Democrat Party... The hits just keep on comin'!! :D

    Hispanic America is turning Right

    Joe Biden is learning that not all POCs think the same

    Hispanics are not happy with Joe Biden. According to a Quinnipiac poll last week asking if voters approve or disapprove of Biden’s handling of the Presidency, only a dismal 29% of Hispanics approve; disapproval is up to 53%. Biden’s cratering numbers aren’t surprising, since Hispanics have been shifting Rightward for the better part of two years now, but the 29% approval is shocking at first glance. Hispanics, a reliable Democratic voting bloc for decades, have turned their backs on Biden and the Democrats.

    The truth is that the Hispanic-Democratic relationship was always a tenuous one. The fracturing dates back to the Trump Presidency. The progressive-led Democratic Party obsessed with woke cultural transformation has been diametrically opposed to the cultural pragmatism favoured by working-class Hispanics for some time now.

    And it's all because hispanic Americans LOVE President Trump!! :D

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    No where is this hispanic American shift more pronounced than Mayra Flores, the first Mexican-born person elected to Congress.

    Flores, who won a special election two weeks ago in Texas’s 34th congressional district. She’s a Trump-styled Republican married to a border patrol agent.

    She flipped a seat that was Democrat-controlled for over 150 years.

    Her rise in a deep blue area of Texas (yea, they are rare but the DO exist) proves beyond ANY doubt that the Democrat Party that has lost touch with the concerns of hispanic Americans..

    This bodes very VERY badly for Democrats in November not to mention Biden’s Handlers' re-election chances in 2024.

    The downward spiral of hispanic support for Democrats will continue and accelerate...

    The Democrat Party is looking at minority Party status for at least the rest of my life.. :D

    Lovin' it!! :D

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    One of the BIGGEST reasons why hispanic Americans are going to the GOP is the offensive pandering that Democrats have done to hispanic Americans..


    Are you frakin' KIDDING me!!!????

    How utterly stoopid and moronic, not to mention utterly offensive, of Democrats to try and create pet names for hispanic Americans...

    It's pathetically stoopid moves like these that prove beyond ANY doubt that Democrats are simply out of touch with real patriotic Americans..

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    How Mitch McConnell as 'the dark lord' shaped the Supreme Court and led to the end of abortion landmark Roe
    McConnell played key role in moving Trump Supreme Court nominees through Senate

    The difference between Democrats and Republicans..

    Republicans think long term.. Strategic.. 3-D Chess...

    Democrats are all about the short term fix.. The quick and easy path... Tiddly Winks...

    That's why Democrats ultimately lose time and time again..

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    After Roe, Never Trumpers Should Just Admit They Were Wrong

    The Never Trump faction is so committed to hating Trump it can’t think clearly about the end of Roe and give credit where credit is due.

    That's the problem with Trump/America haters who suffer from President Trump Derangement Syndrome (PTDS)

    They simply refuse to admit how completely and utterly wrong they are...

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yunno, Democrat reaction to the Supreme Court’s historic decision last week throwing Roe v Wade and Democrat Eugenics v Casey on the trash heap of history where it belongs has been completely heinous and appalling but not surprising in the least.

    Hysterical violence...

    Calls for more hysterical violence...


    Attempted assassinations of SCOTUS Justices and Police Officers...

    Hysterical pleadings to pack the court...

    Completely ignore SCOTUS decisions...

    Insurrection against the Judiciary...

    In other words, about what you’d expect from hysterical Democrats who hate America and want to destroy every institution they cannot control...

    But the PTDS suffers amongst the GOP???

    That's a whole 'nother kettle of fish... The lying and dishonesty of the Trump/America haters is downright treasonous...

    If it hadn't been for President Trump, the Roe v Wade and Democrat Eugenics v Casey would still be the law of the land..

    One would think that those Trump/America haters on the right would at least give credit to President Trump..

    But, they are too sick with PTDS to think rationally...

    That much is obvious to even the most politically naïve American....

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    I Was Wrong About Trump. He Didn’t Destroy the GOP, He Saved It

    When the Republican Party formally nominated Donald Trump four years ago at the national convention in Cleveland, I thought the GOP was making huge mistake. It seemed Trump would certainly lose in November, and that every Republican officeholder who climbed aboard the Trump train that summer would be purged from whatever came after his inevitable defeat. It would be the end of the GOP as we knew it.

    I was wrong about all of that—and in hindsight, I’m glad I was wrong.

    A patriotic American with integrity.. And the willingness to call a spade a spade and admit he was wrong..

    VERY refreshing that there are people like us who still actually CARE about this country...

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, with #30, I'll take a break and let someone else have a chance at the mic.. :D

    If anyone is brave enough.. :D hehehehe

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    No takers, eh?? :D

    Well, alll righty then... Moving on.. :D

    He throws things. He grabs for a steering wheel.

    So... The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES sits in FRONT seat of The Beast with the driver???


    Ya'all are SO gullible.. Ya'all will believe *ANY* BS claim as long as it's against President Trump..

    I honestly wish ya'all could step back from yourselves and actually LOOK at your beliefs thru the cold eyes of objectivity and rational thought..

    Ya'all would simply be AMAZED at how gullible ya'all are...

    Democrats are like Pavlov's Dogs...

    Democrats hear the HATE TRUMP bell and they start salivating with hate totally oblivious to facts and reality...

    It's not a very pretty sight, I can tell ya...

    And the mere FACT that the US Secret Service has flatly denied these BS claims means absolutely NOTHING to Democrats eh??

    Hysterical PTDS... That is all this is..

    It's really sad to see... But not surprising..

    Never surprising...

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    “A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.”
    -Peter Alexander, Chief White House Correspondent NBC News

    I honestly cannot believe ya'all fell for this complete and utter line of BS..

    I mean, com'on!! Do ya'all HONESTLY believe that THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES would sit up in the front seat of the limo!!????

    WHO in their right mind could be THAT gullible???


    Ya'all are so hysterical in your attempts to take down President Trump ya have lost the capability for rational thought.. :^/

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    What FACTS did this Hutchison moron bring to the Cardassian Court???


    That's right, boys and girls..

    NONE... ZERO... ZILCH... NADA....

    What facts are available to refute this Hutchison moron's claim??

    The actual people she said were there...

    This is Blasey Ford all over again..

    And you people eat it up because you WANT to believe it..

    Ya'all don't need no stinkin' FACTS!! Ya'all have your PTDS and your Trump/America hate...

    I am sincerely EMBARRASSED for ya'all that ya'all would fall for this crap... :eyeroll:

    It's the Russia Collusion Delusion all over again and ya'all are falling for it hook, line and sinker...

    Show some class and integrity people! :^/

    Jeezus H Christ...

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    AHHHHH So NOW the OTHER SHOE drops..

    This moron Trump Hater has NOW walked back her claims..

    She wasn't testifying to what she WITNESSED...

    She testified to WHAT SHE WAS TOLD!!!

    “Ms. Hutchinson testified, under oath, and recounted what she was told.”

    IE Hearsay....

    It's as I have said. This Cardassian Court that is the 6JC is NOTHING but rumor, hearsay, innuendo and outright BS...

    And I am STILL amazed that ya'all fell for it!!!

    It's MIND BOGGLING that ya'all fell for it...


  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    She was no low-level staffer, she was able to give an extraordinary first-person viewpoint as a Trump White House insider.

    Not factually accurate..

    There was NO "first-person viewpoint"... This Trump/America hating Hutichison bimbo was testifying to what she was TOLD...

    NOT what she witnessed...

    Ya'all have been had...


    Where is ya'all's self-respect!!???

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:


    Looks like NO ONE wants to take responsibility for this massive boneheaded frak up that is the Cardassian Court AKA the 6JC.... :^/

    OK, then... Moving on...

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Senate six: These pitched battles will decide which party wins majority

    Here are the 6 Senate races that the GOP will win to secure the GOP takeover of the Senate...

    Arizona. Sen. Mark Kelly (D) vs. Republican nominee to be chosen in an Aug. 2 primary

    Kelley has a lot of money.. But that won't make much difference because Arizona is a border state and the massive frak up that is Biden's Handlers' illegal immigration debacle is going to drag Kelley down..

    No matter how desperately Kelley tries to distance himself from Biden's Handlers, the people of Arizona know Democrat incompetence first hand...

    Whoever wins the 2 Aug primary is a shoe in to beat Kelley..

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    Georgia. Sen. Raphael Warnock (D) vs. Republican nominee Herschel Walker

    Another shoe-in for the GOP'er...

    GA is another state where Biden's Handlers' reputation is in the toilet...

    And yea Walker has some baggage.

    But Walker is a Home State hero in the eyes of practically EVERY Georgian....

    Adding to the mix is the HUGE Democrat embarrassment that is Stacey BIG LIE Abrams??? It's easy to see why GA is going to be an easy pickup for the GOP...

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nevada. Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D) vs. Republican nominee Adam Laxalt

    Nevada, with it's large hispanic population that is going to the GOP by the MILLIONS is also an easy pickup for the GOP..

    Made even easier by the fact that the Democrat Masto signed onto the Dem bill that allowed baby killing AKA abortion right up to the moment of birth..

    Hispanic Americans are firmly PRO LIFE and hate the idea of baby killing...

    Nevada will go GOP....

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    New Hampshire. Sen. Maggie Hassan vs. Republican nominee to be chosen in a Sept. 13 primary

    Hassan is another baby killing Democrat who signed onto the Democrat Baby Killing bill that failed due to DEMOCRAT opposition...

    Even Democrats admit that Hassan's polling is horrible and she doesn't bring much to the table for New Hampshirinians... New Hampshireites???

    Another GOP win in New Hampshire...

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    Pennsylvania. Lt. Gov. John Fetterman (D) vs. Republican nominee Mehmet Oz

    Fetterman has health issues that will slow his campaign.. He also supports the Democrats Baby Killing To Moment Of Birth legislation..

    This won't sit well with Pennsylvanians...

    Further Doc Oz has President Trump backing, so Oz is a sure winner in PA.... Another GOP win...

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    Wisconsin. Sen. Ron Johnson (R) vs. Democratic nominee to be chosen in an Aug. 9 primary

    Johnson has the President Trump Support AND the Suburban vote..

    Wisconsin is very MAGA Friendly and there won't be an Zuckerbucks shenanigans, so this will be a good pickup for the GOP....

    There ya have it... The 6 wins that are going to give the GOP the Senate..

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    4 Cases left to be decided in the SCOTUS...

    I'll live blog when they appear...

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    Tony Ornato did not brief Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump tried to lunge at Secret Service agent: sources

    Hutchinson made scathing allegations against Trump while under oath at January 6 hearing

    Hutchison was lying under oath..

    Typical of the Cardassian Courth AKA 6JC....

    It's nothing but bullshit.... Pure and simple...

    Congrats Weigantians..

    Ya'all just fell for Russia Collusion Delusion Phase II...


  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Oh Johnny, Johnny.. Did you back the wrong horse.."
    -Dr Peter Venkmen, GHOSTBUSTERS II


  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:


    Dobbs v. Jackson fallout: Democrats demand 'more fight' on abortion from Biden, reports New York Times
    The Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization case

    Democrats vs Biden's Handlers :D

    "Never interrupt an enemy when they are destroying themselves.."


  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    I didn't bother with the SCOTUS blog as there weren't any cases of consequence..

    Thu will be the EPA and President Trump's REMAIN IN MEXICO program..

    I am sure ya'all understand that Democrats are going to take HUGE losses.... AGAIN..

    The EPA loss will be a bigger impact than RvW and DEvC.... :D

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    No GLOBAL WARMING Agenda for Democrats! :D

    No GREED NEW DEAL.... :D

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    There is only one possible conclusion after hearing the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson.

    ABSOLUTELY.. 1000% agree..


    Trump/America hater Hutchison is 1000% full of shit and lied under oath..



    Oh my gods, how utterly deflated ya'all must feel right now..

    The silence from the Weigantian Peanut Gallery is DEAFENING... :D

  50. [50] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Nobody else posted today? I mean, besides the morning four hours of #SSDD? Boring.

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    Only because ya'all got slapped down BIG TIME on ya'all's Cardassian Court, AKA the J6C!! :D

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    Lemme recap for ya, MC on how it all went down, mm 'kay?? :D

    "President Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of the presidential limo!!!"
    -Moron Trump/America hater Hutchison

    "No, President Trump did not do that.."
    -Presidential Limo Driver

    "President Trump lunged at Secret Service Agent Bobby Engel!!!"
    -Moron Trump/America hater Hutchison

    "No, President Trump did NOT lunge at me..."
    -Secret Service Agent Bobby Engel


    My gods...

    Could Democrats and Trump/America haters like Cheney and Kinzinger look ANY MORE STOOPID than they do right now!!??? :D

    Highly doubtful...

    And ya'all!!??? Buying into this load of crap, hook line and sinker!!!


    I mean, honestly.. How utterly stoopid do ya'all feel right now!!??? :D

    "President Trump was the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll during the Kennedy assassination!!"
    -Moron Democrats


    I believe SOMEONE around here said that the Cardassian Court AKA the 6JC was nothing but a new version of the Russia Collusion Delusion...

    And lo' and behold the FACTS prove that to be factually accurate..

    WOW.. Who could that have been..

    Oh wait... I remember!!! It was ME!!!!! :D

    Yer awful quiet there, MC... Bullshit got yer tongue?? :D

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nobody else posted today?

    I am guessing everyone is just too damn embarrassed to be caught by such a bullshit story.. :D

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    But me???

    I'm LOVIN' IT!!!!!!! :D

    It's so god damn FUNNY!!!!!! :D

    Who could have POSSIBLY predicted this!!???

    Oh... Wait!!! :D

  55. [55] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    And lo' and behold the FACTS prove that to be factually accurate..

    No links, no facts...

  56. [56] 
    Michale wrote:

    No links in the commentary about Hutichison's testimony..

    So you concede that the commentary has no facts..

    I accept your concession..

    Face reality, Bashi..

    Yer moronic and stoopid Democrats and Trump/America haters lost..



  57. [57] 
    Michale wrote:

    But, since you insist, Bashi..

    Secret Service reportedly denies Cassidy Hutchinson’s Jan. 6 tale

  58. [58] 
    Michale wrote:

    Secret Service agent reportedly willing to testify Trump did not lunge at him

  59. [59] 
    Michale wrote:

    Did Trump grab the wheel? Secret Service may counter testimony

    (NewsNation) — Two Secret Service agents are willing to testify that former President Donald Trump did not lunge at any agents during the Jan. 6 insurrection, contrary to under oath testimony of a former top aide, a law enforcement source close to the Secret Service told NewsNation.

  60. [60] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hutchison's OWN lawyer admitted that Hutichison did NOT witness these acts (despite the commentary's claim that this was "FIRST PERSON" eyewitness testimony)..

    Hutichoson's lawyer admits that Hutichison's testimony is NOTHING BUT HEARSAY....

    Ms. Hutchinson testified, under oath, and recounted what she was told.

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, Bashi..

    Where are YOUR facts???

    No where???

    Of course not..

    So shut the frak up....

  62. [62] 
    Michale wrote:

    Tony Ornato did not brief Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump tried to lunge at Secret Service agent: sources
    Hutchinson made scathing allegations against Trump while under oath at January 6 hearing

    Hutichison LIED under oath..

    And YA'ALL bought it!!


    Once again.. I have to point out that President Trump was WRONG...

    I am winning so much and I am NOT getting tired of it!!! :D

  63. [63] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Was that so hard?

    Let's see them testify under oath. They say they will but then so did Ginni...

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    A source close to former Trump Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations Tony Ornato says he did not brief Jan. 6 Committee witness Cassidy Hutchinson on one of the major allegation she made to the committee Tuesday.

    Hutchinson, a former top aide to White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, testified to lawmakers Tuesday that Ornato told her former President Donald Trump repeatedly demanded that the Secret Service take him to the Capitol on January 6. Ornato further told Hutchinson, according to her, that Trump lunged at a Secret Service agent and tried to grab the wheel of a presidential SUV when agents would not allow that.

    However, a source close to Ornato told Fox News that Ornato watched the hearing yesterday and was shocked when Cassidy made the allegation about the steering wheel.

    Both Bobby Engel, the top agent on Trump's Secret Service detail who was in the car, and Ornato, who was not in the car, testified to the January 6 Committee in private over the past year, the source close to Ornato said.

    Now where are YOUR so-called "facts", Bashi???


    Yea... That's what I figgered... :eyeroll:

    I can always count on you, Bashi to be completely and utterly full of crap.... :D

    Yer special that way.. :D

  65. [65] 
    Michale wrote:

    So... You have no facts..

    All you have is lame, inane and irrelevant whataboutism..

    You have the facts..

    STILL waiting for YOU to provide some facts... :D

    RELEVANT facts...

    You got any?????


  66. [66] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    You don't have any facts either, laughing boy. He said, she said. As I said, lets see them testify under oath first...

    I would doubt perjury charges as there was some witness tapering involved. Now are they paying off the agents?

  67. [67] 
    Michale wrote:


    So, you concede you STILL have NO FACTS to support ANY of the bullshit claims.. :D

    I accept your concession, Bashi... :D

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    More likely Democrats and Trump/America haters paid off the moron Trump/America hater Hutichison..

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    Face it, Bashi..

    Ya lost... AGAIN.. :D

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's Miller Time!!! :D

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    I have tons and tons and tons of crow for Weigantians to eat... :D

    Step on up!!! Get yer heapin' helpin' of CROW!!!!! :D

    Maybe some Humbled Cake with a side of biatch-slap??? :D

  72. [72] 
    Michale wrote:

    What a beautiful BEAUTIFUL day this turned out to be, eh?? :D

    And tomorrow is even BETTER...

    President Trump will win again and the Chevron Doctrine, and the Democrat Global Warming Anti America Agenda, will be thrown on the trash heap of history, along side Roe v Wade and Democrat Eugenics v Casey!!

    Gods, could things actually get ANY better!!!???? :D

    I am bursting with joy!!!! :D

  73. [73] 
    dsws wrote:

    [66] of the previous thread:
    And if you kill a sentient being with a heartbeat and your INTENT is to kill a sentient being with a heartbeat, then it is murder.

    I'm glad to hear you've decided to become vegetarian.

    Not everything with a "heartbeat" has sensations. (Actually the "heartbeat" in question is just some vaguely-rhythmic electrical activity, at the point where the ultra-authoritarians want to call it one, well before there's a heart at all.) And not everything with sensation is a person.

    Murder, despite your and PeTA's rhetoric to the contrary, involves the intent to kill a person. Not a steer. (Maybe if the perpetrator considers the steer to be a person? Nah, not even then.)

    On the other hand, if a person is undergoing a heart transplant, and doesn't have a heartbeat or sensations at that moment because they're under general anesthesia and their atherosclerotic heart has been removed but the new donor heart hasn't been implanted yet, it's still murder if you kill them by intentionally interrupting the surgery.

  74. [74] 
    Michale wrote:


    I'm glad to hear you've decided to become vegetarian.

    What part of "sentient" is unclear?? :D

    Murder, despite your and PeTA's rhetoric to the contrary, involves the intent to kill a person.

    A baby is a person.. As will be established once the GOP takes control of Congress...

    it's still murder if you kill them by intentionally interrupting the surgery.

    Yes it is... Glad we agree.. :D

    Russia something something...

  75. [75] 
    Michale wrote:

    I would doubt perjury charges as there was some witness tapering involved.

    Your "facts" come from ROLLING STONE!!???


    That's ALMOST as funny as "Punchbowl News"... Not quite, but close.. :D

  76. [76] 
    Michale wrote:

    One has to wonder if Punch Monkeys read Punchbowl News.. :D

  77. [77] 
    dsws wrote:

    Anyway, onward to what I dropped by to say:

    Broaden the war. Russia maintains its empire by threat, but is now overextended in Ukraine. It does not have the wherewithal to make good on that threat in other vassal states and occupied territories. To resolve the current crisis with minimum bloodshed, we should act on a broader front than Russia is capable of responding on. We should empower Georgia to reestablish de-facto sovereignty over Abkhazia and South Ossetia. We should seek to enable color revolutions in Belarus and Kyrgyzstan. We should support pro-China factions in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan. We should use the power of the purse to support the further development of Turkish arms manufacture in exchange for normalization of relations with Armenia.

    I'm probably wrong about the specifics. The point is that we have a variety of options for how we approach each vassal state in the Russian Empire. No country wants to be part of a foreign empire. All are held there by the threat of mass murder. So an empire has only one card to play. An outside agent, though, can respond separately to the different conditions in each vassal state.

    In the long run, China and the West are each vastly stronger than Russia. As long as the other tacitly supports i, either can provide security against Russia to any country that joins the global international order. The same world order has both enabled China's rise and supported America's continued prosperity. China and the West would both be much worse off in the Hobbesian condition of empire against empire that Russia wants to impose on the world. That means that, although there will inevitably be points of disagreement, our interests fundamentally align with those of China. Now is the time to cooperate with China, and implement a response that (if we calibrate it right) China will loudly condemn in its entirely, while quietly supporting almost every detail -- as we do the same with the Chinese response if they calibrate theirs right.

  78. [78] 
    dsws wrote:

    Something is sentient if it has sensations. Note that it's the same root word. So a zygote doesn't qualify, but a steer does.

    Russia delenda est

  79. [79] 
    Michale wrote:

    New J6 Narrative About Trump And Secret Service Collapses Hours After Tuesday Hearing

    Blockbuster testimony from former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson collapsed hours after Tuesday’s show trial hearing.

    In her more than two-hours of uncorroborated commentary, just about all of which was based on hearsay, Hutchinson depicted an image of an unhinged president who was not only complicit in his supporters ransacking the Capitol but was eager to attend the spectacle.

    Moments after the Hutchinson’s testimony, NBC’s Chief White House Correspondent Peter Alexander reported “a source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.”

    CBS News followed up with “confirmation” of the agency’s categorical denial, likely from the same sources.

    Hours later, another pillar of Hutchinson’s testimony fell apart when a spokesman for Former White House lawyer Eric Herschmann told ABC News a handwritten note for which Hutchinson claimed authorship was actually written by Herschmann.

    The note, displayed by Cheney as an exhibit, included a statement for the president to read as the riot unfolded on Capitol Hill.

    “The handwritten note that Cassidy Hutchinson testified was written by her was in fact written by Eric Herschmann on January 6, 2021,” a spokesperson for Herschmann told ABC News Tuesday night. “All sources with direct knowledge and law enforcement have and will confirm that it was written by Mr. Herschmann.”

    The biatch lied under oath... Pure and simple...

    The Cardassian Show Trial AKA the 6JC is irrevocably tainted and discredited...

    Oh what a FRABJOUS DAY!!!! :D

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:


    You are correct.. I used the wrong word..

    Thank you for the correction..

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    Looks like even Drudge is acknowledging how badly the Cardassian Show trial AKA the 6JC has been irrevocably tainted and discredited..

    Drudge took the "bombshell" headline off and replaced it with HeadBoard Harris calling into question Biden's Handlers' claims about running for re-election..

    The Cardassian Show trial AKA, the 6JC is history...

    What an AWESOME day, eh!!?? :D

  82. [82] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Hutchison's OWN lawyer admitted that Hutichison did NOT witness these acts (despite the commentary's claim that this was "FIRST PERSON" eyewitness testimony)..

    Hutichoson's lawyer admits that Hutichison's testimony is NOTHING BUT HEARSAY....

    WOW! Anyone who bothered to watch her testimony could have told you that she was testifying to what what she was told by Secret Service agents… not that she witnessed it firsthand.

    So... The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES sits in FRONT seat of The Beast with the driver???

    It was not in The Beast, it was in one of their SUV’s. Don’t remember anyone saying Trump was in front seat.

    Moments after the Hutchinson’s testimony, NBC’s Chief White House Correspondent Peter Alexander reported “a source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.”

    No one said that either man was assaulted by Trump; so that they would be willing to testify to this should not surprise anyone.

    Why aren’t they saying that they are willing to testify that Trump didn’t throw a tantrum about not getting to lead the insurrection in person? Why is no one coming forth to testify that Trump did not tell security to allow those with weapons in to the rally because they weren’t there to harm HIM?

    Read the ketchup on the wall; Trump is toast!

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    It was not in The Beast, it was in one of their SUV’s. Don’t remember anyone saying Trump was in front seat.


    How can President Trump grab the wheel from the back seat?

    No one said that either man was assaulted by Trump;

    Lunging at someone is an assault.. If you were REALLY married to a cop, you would know that..

    Face reality, Russ..

    Democrats lost BIG TIME today..

    And Democrats will lose BIG TIME tomorrow.. :D

    I am going to enjoy the hell out of it!!! :D

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    Today has been a THOROUGHLY enjoyable day!!!

    I loved the HELL out of it!!!

    See ya'all in the morning when ya'all can stammer and blush and hem and haw about how ya'all got TOOK!!!!

    AGAIN!!!! :D

    Russia Collusion Delusion.. Phase II


  85. [85] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh. One more thing...

    WOW! Anyone who bothered to watch her testimony could have told you that she was testifying to what what she was told by Secret Service agents… not that she witnessed it firsthand.

    Not factually accurate... Even the moderator of Weigantia here said in the commentary that the lyin' biatch's testimony was "first person"...

    So, you are WRONG, Russ.. :D As usual... :D

    On another note, you caught up with Strange New Worlds yet??? :D

    OK NOW... ni ni :D

  86. [86] 
    nypoet22 wrote:


    sorry i don't always have a minute to read and respond during the day, but i'll try to be brief:

    there's no documented evidence yet to contradict what Cassidy Hutchinson said, just a vague report that the secret service members who were present may testify to something different from her account. as far as i'm aware, the only part of her testimony that's hearsay is about what happened in the limo on the way back from the speech on january 6th. the rest is her direct experience, and there's zero evidence contrary to any other part of her testimony.

    hearsay may or may not be accurate, which is why it requires extra corroboration and isn't always accepted as evidence in a court of law. you're entitled to hope that her evidence will be refuted in its entirety, but that doesn't seem likely. at worst (or at best from your perspective), someone told her a story they'd misheard. that doesn't negate the plate throwing, table tossing, wiping ketchup from the wall, or even that donald asked to go to the capital and had to be convinced otherwise by his security detail.


  87. [87] 
    Kick wrote:


    AHHHHH So NOW the OTHER SHOE drops..

    This moron Trump Hater has NOW walked back her claims..

    In fact, she most assuredly did not walk back her claims even a scintilla.

    She wasn't testifying to what she WITNESSED...

    She testified to WHAT SHE WAS TOLD!!!

    She gave a lot of testimony. The vast majority of it was actually what she witnessed. As for the incident in the vehicle, it appears your usual lack of reading comprehension and perpetual ignorance regarding simple English has confused you again.

    Hutchinson then reported a conversation she had had with a Secret Service agent after everyone got back to the White House.

    ~ Chris Weigant (see above)

    Reading is fundamental.

    It appears you spent all day confused about the facts. #SSDD

    “Ms. Hutchinson testified, under oath, and recounted what she was told.”

    Thanks for confirming your usual confusion. It also appears you missed the part where she also testified that the person who was in the vehicle with Trump (eyewitness) was present at the time and did not dispute a single word of what she was told.

    IE Hearsay....

    Not refuted at the time by the person who was actually in the vehicle who was actually standing there when it was relayed to her: Tony Ornato.

    Tony Ornato worked as Trump's security detail leader, the number one guy protecting him. Trump liked this Secret Service agent Ornato so much that he gave him a political job in the White House... which broke every Secret Service tradition in the book about fraternizing. Ornato remained a Secret Service employee while Trump employed him politically to direct the Secret Service at Trump's campaign events, political rallies, and photo opportunities, including the forcible clearing of peaceful protesters from Lafayette Square.

    Ornato denied that Lafayette Square was cleared of peaceful protesters for a preplanned photo op; this is a lie. Anyone who thinks Ivanka carries around a very large Bible in her purse all the time and just so happened to have it on hand for Daddy to foist into the air (upside down like a fool)... I got a bridge to sell you. Ornato was at the center of the planning of that Trump photo op at the church.

    Perhaps the eyewitness embellished the story. Who knows? Ornato knows, and he was there and didn't deny it, but he's also a known liar and Trump loyalist. What isn't in dispute is that Trump was irate when the SS wouldn't allow him to join the mob he just sent to the capitol (which was a preplanned conspiracy) with Trump knowing full well at the time that they were armed and dangerous.

    As anyone paying attention to all the testimony could observe, the Committee obviously wants to question White House Counsel and these Secret Service agents under oath. They obviously know more already.

    At the end of the last hearing, they dangled the fact that witnesses are being tampered with (illegal) and that the Committe is well aware. As Speak2 so rightly noted above, they also implored those who wanted to add to their sworn testimony to come on down. If anyone thinks this was an accident, I got a bridge to sell you.


    Keep rolling your eyes; maybe you'll find a brain back there. :)

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