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Trump Loses First Big One

[ Posted Wednesday, May 11th, 2022 – 15:56 UTC ]

Donald Trump likes to see himself as a kingmaker in the world of Republican politics. He's got a case to make -- candidates who gain his endorsement can indeed see a surge in support and even go on to win close races -- but he's also nowhere near as powerful as he'd like everyone to think. That was evident in last night's big loss for his chosen candidate in the Nebraska governor's race. Trump endorsed early, he actually rallied in the state for his anointee, and the guy still lost. Trump is facing a few other prominent losses in the weeks to come as well, in both Idaho and Georgia at the very least.

A week ago I wrote an introductory column to this year's primaries which specifically dealt with the relative importance of Trump-backed candidates losing. So I will attempt to view last night's contest through that lens, and answer the questions the article posed.

 

How red a state is it?

Very red. Stoplight red. Fire engine red.

In Nebraska, barring some sort of unforeseen political earthquake, the winner of the Republican primary is going to become the winner in November. Jim Pillen, the winner last night, can comfortably start measuring the governor's office for new drapes.

Winning the primary in red states is not the same thing as winning in purple or even blue states, since the campaign is now essentially over -- the Democratic candidate isn't going to have a chance.

 

Will there be a strong third-party candidate in November?

Probably not.

This isn't a high-profile enough race for a strong third-party bid. Also, this was an open seat -- the incumbent was term-limited out. Charles Herbster, the Trump candidate who lost, has no previous experience in politics, so he has no built-in base of voters who already support him. Jim Pillen is going to skate to victory in the fall, facing only the Democratic candidate.

 

MAGA v. MAGA, or MAGA v. Establishment?

This one is interesting, because it was actually both. It was really a three-way race between what passes for a moderate Republican candidate in Nebraska (Brett Lindstrom), a Trump-endorsed candidate (Herbster), and a candidate who wasn't endorsed by Trump (Pillen) who did have the endorsement of the sitting governor and much of the state's Republican establishment -- but who also tried to go full MAGA during the campaign. So a mixed verdict.

Lindstrom was seen as having a good chance of winning last night's race, but only wound up with 26 percent of the vote. Herbster won 30 percent to Pillen's 34 percent. One other candidate pulled in 6 percent, but the rest were below 2 percent. All in all, a pretty balanced three-way race, in which the winner was establishment-backed but still campaigned in a very MAGA way.

So you can't really say "Trumpism lost last night," because Pillen got pretty MAGA in order to boost his chances of winning. Or maybe the conclusion should be a strong establishment candidate can beat even a Trump-endorsed candidate if he woos the Trump voters successfully enough? It's hard to say, really.

 

How many viable candidates are there?

As already stated, three.

The top three candidates split roughly 90 percent of the vote. And they split it fairly evenly -- the winner only won by less than four points (as of this writing, the final percentages may slightly vary in the tenths column).

It is interesting, just hypothetically, to wonder what the race would have looked like if it had been just Pillen v. Herbster or Lindstrom v. Herbster, but this wasn't that clear-cut a contest. Still, it was a simpler one than one with four or even five plausible contenders.

 

How late in the race did Trump jump in?

Not very.

Trump endorsed Herbster six months ago, even though Governor Pete Ricketts pushed him to stay out of the race. And, as noted, Ricketts then endorsed Pillen.

An endorsement in October of the year before the primary is early. In no way did Trump jump into the race at the last minute in order to boost his won/lost stats. So Trump was all-in for Herbster from the start -- which makes it more difficult for him to brush aside the loss.

 

What boost did Trump's endorsement actually provide?

This is a rather special case, so no generalized conclusions are even possible.

Trump didn't just endorse Herbster and then forget about him (which he does in plenty of the races he endorses candidates in). Trump even held an in-person rally for Herbster in the homestretch of the primary campaign.

But Trump's endorsement, being early, came before the big scandal. Herbster has now been accused by eight women of sexually groping them. One is a state senator from his own party, who accused Herbster of putting his hand up her skirt at a GOP fundraiser, and another Republican woman also accused him of sexual assault at the same party. This all came out in the final weeks of the primary campaign, before Trump held his rally for Herbster. Herbster denied the accusations and attacked his accusers. Trump, no stranger to sexual assault accusations himself, also chimed in: "[Charles Herbster] is the most innocent human being. He's the last person to do any of this stuff."

These days, you can't dismiss out of hand the thought that perhaps Herbster groped some women in an effort to be even more Trump-like, with the thought that it might actually improve his chances, but this just isn't true in his case. Such a thought would normally be considered completely bonkers, but these days you just never know, in Trumpworld. But Herbster's behavior reportedly took place long before he jumped into this race -- that fundraiser was in 2019, for instance.

In any case, it's impossible to know how much the scandal hurt Herbster. Republicans within the state denounced his behavior in strong terms, even if Trump himself let it all slide. Could Herbster have actually won the race if the accusations hadn't been made public? It's entirely possible. So even though he lost, it's not a clear-cut measurement of Trump's endorsement power.

 

Conclusions (such as they are...)

There's one interesting conclusion that suggests itself, but it is too early to really know if it is true or not -- perhaps Donald Trump's endorsement means more in races for the House of Representatives and the Senate. Trump won all his House contests last night, including one very tight race which (due to redistricting) pitted one sitting GOP House member against another. Trump's pick won. To date, Trump hasn't stumbled in his picks for either chamber of Congress. But he is on much shakier ground when it comes to governors' races.

Trump lost in Nebraska. He will likely soon lose in Idaho and Georgia. Both states have incumbent governors running against Trump-endorsed candidates, and Trump is personally invested in both of these races in a way he really wasn't in Nebraska (in both cases, this is due to Trump's thirst for revenge against insufficiently-worshipful Republicans).

Governors have their own base of support within their states. Indeed, they can't get elected without it. Because of this, they have a much better chance at fending off a Trump attack, at least as long as they remain popular to the voters. Such appears to be the case in both Idaho and Georgia, no matter how much Trump hates the incumbents.

But it may not be that simple. Trump has a few high-profile Senate races coming up with no guarantees that his endorsed candidate is going to win. If Trump loses in Pennsylvania or North Carolina, the power of his endorsement will be further weakened.

Trump is going to continue acting in his kingmaker role throughout the primaries and likely throughout the 2024 election cycle as well. But his nod is no guarantee of success. That is evident now, and it will continue to be evident in each high-profile race he loses. His endorsement will be the most-sought-after in the Republican Party, but it is still possible for strong candidates to win without it, and even against a Trump-endorsed challenger. That's the takeaway from Trump's first big 2020 primary loss.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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78 Comments on “Trump Loses First Big One”

  1. [1] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Many more pundits will likewise dissect the ramifications blah blah blah but first, Trump and his minions completely ignore the bad news and glorify the good. They live in a different reality.

    Second, I read your column CW but definitely I'll skip any further punditry on the subject.

    I'm doing so because I'm glad I ignored months of anxious coverage of negotiations with Manchinema because nothing but the end result mattered.

  2. [2] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Repugs are and will remain terrified of Trump.

    Right up to the moment he becomes radioactive and then stand aside for the rush to the exits.

  3. [3] 
    andygaus wrote:

    What do you think could make Trump become radioactive? Wearing radium-infused clothing? Based on past events, that doesn't seem to be enough, or he would have exploded long before now.

  4. [4] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Putin has been known to make people become radioactive. :D

  5. [5] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Heh.

  6. [6] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    He should have tried pie.

  7. [7] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yep.

  8. [8] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    So long as Democrats remain focused on Trump and not on their own dismal record over the last little while, they will be in big trouble come November ...'22 and '24 ... even more so than they already are, that is.

    And, they will need more than pie to get out of it.

  9. [9] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I have lost most, if not all, of the faith I had in Biden. What surprises me about that is how soon it happened.

    I mean, I still believe he was the only Democrat on the planet who could have beat Trump in 2020 and I still thank God that he did. But, the way he has handled the Ukraine/Russia file has been nothing short of catastrophic, mostly for Ukraine.

    As for the economy, well, I have given up on the idea that Democrats have the first clue about how to sink the Republicans on this file, Trump or no Trump. I'll change my tune when I hear one of them utter the phrase Republican cult of economic failure. I ain't holding my breath, naturally. :(

  10. [10] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Trump won several and lost minor one..

    Of course, PTDS requires.. no.. DEMANDS.. that Democrats concentrate on the one minor loss and ignore all the big wins. :eyeroll:

  11. [11] 
    Michale wrote:

    So long as Democrats remain focused on Trump and not on their own dismal record over the last little while, they will be in big trouble come November ...'22 and '24 ... even more so than they already are, that is.

    One could say that ALSO applies to Weigantia, eh? :D

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    I have lost most, if not all, of the faith I had in Biden. What surprises me about that is how soon it happened.

    So... Would you say that it might have been better that Biden LOST the election. At least his reputation would have been intact and he could have exited politics on a somewhat high note??

    As opposed to now, when his exit from politics will be as the POTUS that made Carter look like Lincoln...

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    I'll change my tune when I hear one of them utter the phrase Republican cult of economic failure.

    Democrats can't say that.. They know that they would be laughed out of office.. Even more so than they are already going to be.. :D

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the media ain't doing Democrats any favors either.

    Musk slams media with enlightened brain meme over 'inaccurate, slanderous' reportage

    The New York Times recently published a critique based on the mogul's upbringing in South Africa

    Tesla CEO Elon Musk appeared to fire back Wednesday at proverbial fake news and attacks on him from the press, sharing an adjusted version of a popular meme featuring the human brain.

    Musk has been the target of criticism, largely from left-leaning outlets, in the weeks since he announced his bid to buy Twitter for about $44 billion, and bring the social media platform more in line with free-speech principles.
    Last week, the New York Times published a story about Musk's upbringing in South Africa, describing the nation he left as one "rife with misinformation and White privilege."

    The article claimed Musk might have been "insulated from the harsh reality" of the Apartheid system, growing up in suburban Johannesburg, quote, "where black people were rarely seen other than in service of white families living in palatial homes."

    The suggestion, observers claimed, was that that experience during Apartheid could cause the mogul to be dulled to hate speech if he progresses with his plans for the site.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/musk-media-tweet-enlightened-brain-meme-new-york-times

    Democrats and the Media are going to push Elon further and further away....

    Which means that Elon will be pushed further and further to the Right...

    Once again, Democrats PROVE that they are their own worst enemies..

    JL, I still want to hear your thoughts on this issue..

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    "NY Times, are you going to blame children for decisions made by governments?"
    Elon Musk's Mother

    That's Democrats for you.. Nothing is too low to sink to..

    :eyeroll:

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    Whistleblowers: FBI targeted parents via terrorism tools despite Garland's testimony that it didn't happen

    Jordan and Johnson said these investigations were a direct result of Garland’s directive to the FBI
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-targeted-parents-via-terrorism-tools-despite-garland-testimony

    Get that???

    Violent protesters target SCOTUS Justices and their families and Biden and his DOJ does NOTHING. Actually ENCOURAGES it..

    But school parents who are defending their children against Democrat indoctrination???

    THOSE Americans are treated as domestic terrorists..

    And you people wonder why Democrats are going to be massacred in November???

    :eyeroll:

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    Many more pundits will likewise dissect the ramifications blah blah blah but first, Trump and his minions completely ignore the bad news and glorify the good. They live in a different reality.

    As opposed to the reality that Democrats and Trump/America haters and Weigantians live in where they completely ignore the good news and glorify the bad??

    Personally, I like the REAL reality much better than the reality that is filled with hate and bigotry..

    Call me silly...

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    AG Garland LIED to Congress..

    It's a good thing we didn't let this lying scumbag become a SCOTUS Justice...

    McConnell's plan was definitely the correct way to go..

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden admin cancels massive oil and gas lease sale amid record-high gas prices

    Interior Department canceled a 1-million-plus acre oil lease in Alaska as Americans face painfully high prices at the pump
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-cancels-oil-gas-lease-sale-record-high-prices

    America is facing RECORD HIGH GAS PRICES..

    So what do Biden's handlers do?? They have Biden cancel oil and gas lease sales...

    Does anyone need any more proof that Biden's handlers are out to ruin this country??

    I mean, seriously.. I know that the Green morons want to push gas prices to $10 a gallon so they can implement their green agenda...

    But they are being so stoopid because gas prices are tied closely to winning (or in Democrats' case, LOSING) elections..

    MORONS...

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    I have lost most, if not all, of the faith I had in Biden. What surprises me about that is how soon it happened.

    Yunno.. There is one thing that could restore your faith in Biden and make him the man he used to be...

    But you just won't consider it..

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the stoopidity of Democrats CONTINUES to amaze..

    Handmaid protester says Justice Barrett, mom of 5 biological kids, doesn't know about full-term pregnancy

    Barrett is the mother of seven children, two of whom were adopted
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/justice-barrett-mom-5-doesnt-know-full-term-pregnancy-handmaid-protester

    What *IS* it about Democrats that they are so ignorant and ill-informed??

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    "However, in this country, there's a separation of church and state. So somebody's religion, no matter what that might be, cannot dictate how they carry out their job as a public official."
    -Moron Democrat Protester

    So, this moron would agree that someone's LACK of religion, no matter what that may be, cannot dictate how.. oh let's say.. a baker would carry out his job???

    Hypocrisy. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    Right Wing protesters at the capital??

    BAD and must be fought with Gestapo-esque tactics..

    Left Wing protesters that are actually breaking the law by harassing Justices and their families in their homes??

    GOOD and must be encouraged...

    That's the Democrat way.. :eyeroll:

    Hypocrisy. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hay Democrats..

    Winter's coming..

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    And Democrats LOSE AGAIN!!! :D

    California under-21 gun sales ban ruled unconstitutional by US appeals court

    The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, however, ruled that a hunting license requirement for purchases of rifles or shotguns by adults under 21 who are not in the military or law enforcement was reasonable
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-gun-ban-unconstitutional-court

    Aren't you people glad you have me around??

    Otherwise ya'all would be thinking that everything is hunky dorky and Democrats were going to retain Congress in November.. :D

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    CO mom says middle school invited her daughter to secret LGBTQ club, told students to keep info from parents

    Kids told, 'what you hear in here, stays in here,' mom says
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mom-middle-school-secret-lgbtq-club-students-parents

    This is the kind of teachers that Democrats WANT in schools..

    Teachers who will indoctrinate the children and turn the children against their parents..

    Teaching used to be such an honorable profession. :^/

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    "She explained to my daughter that if she is not 100% comfortable in her female body, then she's transgender. She then told the kids that parents aren't safe, and that it's OK to lie to them about where they are in order to attend this meeting."
    -Colorado Mother

    How can Democrats defend this grotesque and perverse behavior??

    She then told the kids that parents aren't safe, and that it's OK to lie to them about where they are in order to attend this meeting.

    Get that?? Democrats are telling children that their parent's aren't safe.. That it's OK to LIE to their parents..

    This is the Democrat Party way...

    How sad...

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    TEACHERS!!! LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!!!
    -Pink Floyd

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Now, child.. This is our little secret. You can't tell your parents.."
    -Democrat Teacher

    Hmmmmm Seems that THAT is what a pedophile would say also... :^/

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    BLM has left Black Americans worse off since the movement began, experts say

    'These communities are worse off because by (BLM) overemphasizing the role of police, they've changed police behavior for the worse,' the Manhattan Institute's Jason Riley says
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-lives-matter-black-america-worse-off-police-murders-violence

    Who could have POSSIBLY foreseen that Democrat/BLM cop-hate policies such as DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE would be BAD for black Americans..

    Who could have POSSIBLY seen this coming??

    Oh... Wait... :^/

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    Texas appeals court reinstates law prohibiting social media companies from banning users over political views

    The law will go back into effect while the case proceeds in a lower court
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/texas-appeals-court-social-media-banning-political-views

    And Democrats lose AGAIN!!! :D

    People in Texas are now immune from FaceBook and Twitter bans for political views.. :D

    And all anyone has to do is to use a VPN, route it thru a Texas server and they also are immune from banning.. :D

    WOOT!!!! :D

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/918/516/cartoon-5.12.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

    America could have remained GREAT if only Democrats loved their country more than they hated mean tweets...

    :eyeroll:

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    Google teases smart glasses prototype that translates languages in real time

    Google CEO Sundar Pichai teased a smart glasses prototype the company is working on that can translate languages in real time.
    During the company’s I/O conference, Pichai showed a demo of augmented reality glasses that “take its developments and transcriptions” and deliver them in the user’s line of sight.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/11/google-smart-glasses-prototype-translates-languages-in-real-time.html

    GOOGLE GLASS 2.0

    Yea, cuz the 1.0 worked out SOOO well.. :^/

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why journalists are going bonkers over Musk’s plan to lift Trump’s Twitter ban

    The near-nuclear reaction is driven by the bitter and emotional divide surrounding the former president
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/media-going-bonkers-over-musks-plan-lift-trumps-twitter-ban

    President Trump Derangement Syndrome (PTDS) is alive and well..

    As the subject of this commentary proves beyond any doubt..

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    "I do think that it was not correct to ban Donald Trump. I think that was a mistake because it alienated a large part of the country and did not ultimately result in Donald Trump not having a voice. Since Trump was not exactly silenced this is why it is morally wrong and flat-out stupid."
    -Elon Musk

    This is what happens when one let's hate and bigotry cloud reason and logic.

    Democrats/Trump-America haters created a STRONGER President Trump with their actions..

    They told the world that President Trump is a danger to Democrat Party rule so he had to be eliminated..

    Democrats brought about the very thing that they had hoped to prevent..

    A STRONGER President Trump..

    The ISHMAEL EFFECT strikes again!!

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    Debunking Sunny Hostin’s claim that black Republicans are an ‘oxymoron’

    This gatekeeper mentality that Sunny possesses prevents her from honestly assessing why someone black would consider voting Republican. The simple answer to her question: the same reason anyone from any other race would vote for the Republican Party. They feel that their personal interests or values are more represented by the GOP, whether you agree with their interests or not.

    I think, however, the most pertinent question to ask today is: Why should black Americans continue to blindly vote “blue” when many are disappointed with the Democratic Party’s behavior?

    Why should I continue to vote for a party that uses black people as a political football when it deems it necessary to toss us around? Why should I continue to vote for a party that platforms woke white supremacists who claim that no matter what I do, I will never have more privilege than them? Why should I continue to vote for a party that thinks infantilizing black people helps any of us?
    https://nypost.com/2022/05/09/debunking-sunny-hostins-claim-that-black-republicans-are-an-oxymoron/

    Claiming that a black Republican is an oxymoron is a completely and utterly bigoted and racist statement..

    The Democrat Party is STILL the Party of racists..

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    It has become abundantly clear that the Democratic Party sees me as a member of a downtrodden voting bloc that primarily cares about prison reform, reparations and if white people are nice to me.

    The Democratic Party before my very eyes has morphed into an anti-liberal and identity-driven political party that promotes black gatekeeping, superficial symbolism aimed at its black voters and policy-driven lowered expectations. It has chosen to wholeheartedly embrace the woke-progressive social outlook by viewing black people as permanently unfortunate victims rather than historical victors against governmental tyranny and highly capable of excelling without needing political handouts.

    People like Sunny fail to understand that former Democrats like myself didn’t leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left us. Democrats have taken extreme positions that political moderates like me find undesirable, and they’ve become insufferably illiberal.

    The Republicans, meanwhile, have become the party of classical liberalism by advocating against censorship while fighting to protect our children from the very ideological extremists that the Democrats willfully platform.

    Sunny may live in a wealthy progressive New York City bubble, but in future elections, her bubble is going to burst when she realizes that the Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters, including their convenient political footballs, black voters.

    It is no wonder that the Democrat Party is losing black American voters by the millions..

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    What do you think could make Trump become radioactive?

    To patriotic Americans who actually LOVE their country???

    Nothing..

    To America/cop hating Democrats??

    A mean tweet... :eyeroll:

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    "It's 6.30 in the morning, and we turn on the TV at work and there's always a story about someone getting shot. After awhile, you say what's going on? Where's black lives matter? There were protests against police brutality, but what about the black lady shot while sitting at a stop sign? All black lives should matter."
    -Damon Jones, Retired LEO

    Of course black American lives only MATTER when their deaths can be used as a blunt instrument to beat people over the head with..

    Otherwise, black lives don't matter a bit to Democrats and BLM...

    The FACTS prove this conclusively...

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats Protest Outside Of Justices' Homes

    Where's the McCloskeys when ya need them, eh??

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    HA!!!! Whaddisay!!???? A Sotomayer clerk!!!!

    NAILED IT!!!

    What’s Roberts Waiting On?

    It’s been a week and the inaction on Dobbs is dangerous.

    Over the weekend, Jed Babbin was exactly correct in his characterization of the leak, quite possibly by a Sonia Sotomayor law clerk named Amit Jain if the speculation is correct, of the Supreme Court’s decision in the Dobbs case which would reset our jurisprudence back to something more manageable than the dog’s breakfast of activism and black-robe politics we’ve been mired in for half a century.
    https://spectator.org/whats-roberts-waiting-on/

    Sotomayer is mudd in the SCOTUS...

    We should wait til President Trump is back in the Oval Office and force Sotomayer to retire...

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    And meanwhile, a group of Democrat fascists calling itself Ruth Sent Us, a bizarre name given that its namesake, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, was pretty critical of Roe v. Wade as terrible law even if she was pro-abortion, are now disseminating the home addresses of Supreme Court justices for the express purposes of breaking federal law.

    Because it’s illegal to harass judges at their homes to try to intimidate them or otherwise change their judicial opinions.

    Everybody at Ruth Sent Us, in a country with a Justice Department which wasn’t completely compromised and corrupted, would have been hauled into jail and subjected to the precise treatment the January 6 protesters have enjoyed.

    The January 6 protesters were there to demonstrate against what they saw as a corrupt presidential election — and oh, by the way, Dinesh D’Souza’s new movie 2,000 Mules makes an awfully good case that they were right. What are the Ruth Sent Us goons who have chased at least one justice out of his home — Samuel Alito, who wrote the opinion, and his family have been moved to a secure location thanks to death threats from the mostly peaceful firebombers and others in the streets — demonstrating against?

    It's amazing that a group that portends that they represent RBG... Who was as critical of RvW as Alito in the majority SCOTUS Opinion..

    Hypocrisy. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature

  43. [43] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    CW-
    One reason I don't go to California is I know if I do that is when California will fall into the ocean.

    If you like your home, CW, address One Demand before I have to protest outside of your home. :D

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's not surprising that it's a Sotomayer clerk who leaked this..

    It also would not be surprising if this clerk leaked it on orders from Sotomayer...

    Sotomayer is mudd...

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    Flipping to another track..

    If Putin had any sense at all, he would attack Finland BEFORE Finland is actually part of NATO..

    That way, Putin can do to Finland what he's doing to Ukraine and Biden/NATO would just whine, "Finland is NOT part of NATO.. Nothing we can do..." :eyeroll:

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    DH,

    Since your disgusting attack on my mother who passed away, I vowed never to respond to you again..

    But this is just too blatant to let pass un-noted...

    If you like your home, CW, address One Demand before I have to protest outside of your home. :D

    Are you TRYING to get banned???

    Because such a threat is a BLATANT violation of policy, not to mention common decency, and no one would say diddley if the Weigantian Administration wiped you from Weigantia..

    *smh*

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Kremlin calls Finland's NATO move a threat to Russia

    Russia threatens to deploy nuclear warheads on Finland's border
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/kremlin-finland-nato-move-threat-to-russia

    Apparently, Putin is not as stoopid as Biden thinks he is...

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    You can’t count on the federal government to do its job and punish the people turning Supreme Court jurisprudence into a violent three-ring circus. At this point, you can’t even count on the pro-abortion crazies not to kill one of the conservative justices — because the way they see it, rubbing out one of them would take the Dobbs majority from five to four, amounting to a strategic coup which the rest of us wouldn’t think wise but they do. Especially given the rewards the Left reaped from the George Floyd riots.

    Because they aren’t going to peel off Alito or Clarence Thomas, or for that matter, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, or Amy Coney Barrett, from that majority through intimidation.

    The only responsible thing to do if you’re John Roberts in the current circumstances is to flip the pressure valve and publish the Dobbs decision.

    Once that’s done, there is no further direct motivation for the kind of insanity we’re seeing. Generalized political violence and riots, sure — that motivation is that it’s an election year and rioting worked in 2020, after all.

    But even the dumbest people on the Left know that looting and burning again this year is a dicey political gamble.

    That decision needs to be published. Now. That Roberts hasn’t made it happen, more than a week after the leak, is just plain irresponsible. I don’t care if the dissents haven’t been written — it’s the side of the dissenters causing this urgency. Especially if it turns out to be Sotomayor’s clerk who leaked this thing.

    And if it continues, and something awful happens, it’ll be cause for Roberts’ impeachment. It’s just that simple.

    I am forced to agree with this reasoning..

    Roberts should join the majority and release the opinion immediately...

  49. [49] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Trump's endorsements are just the old magicians trick of look here while the real trick is happening over there.

    Trump endorsed Republikiller candidates, non-Trump endorsed Republikller candidates and even the Deathocrat opponents are all endorsed by the big money interests.

    You are "Nicole" from the Burt Wonderstone movie rather than the Four Horsemen from Now You See Me.

    The problem with that act is when you put democracy in the box you actually saw democracy in half.

    A better "trick" would be to make the big money politicians disappear using One Demand.

    Wake up.
    Wise up.
    Rise up.

    TAKE THE VACCINE!

  50. [50] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Michale-
    Your mother passed away before my disgusting attack.

    How dare you imply that she passed away from my disgusting attack.

    If I had wanted to kill your mother I would have sent her a free ticket to California when I was on my way to protest outside of CW's house. :D

    There is a difference between a threat of direct personal action and a warning of the results of triggering an avoidable event.

    My disgusting attack is well within the common decency here and no different than the disgusting attacks on rational discussion waged by you and other commenters here with your trolling, lies and dodges.

    It was simply me meeting you on common ground as you asked but doing it better than you.

    And that is just the tip of the iceberg of the potential of what I could do.

    "You reap what you sow."
    -The Great White Hype

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    Today’s ‘Diversity’ Oaths Resemble 1950s ‘Loyalty’ Oaths

    It is rare to meet someone with true moral courage, someone who risks everything to do what he knows is right. I was privileged to know such a man, George Anastaplo. His story, set during the Red Scare of the 1950s, needs to be told because it applies today, when political zealots again demand rigid conformity.

    George, a boy from rural Illinois, refused to bow down to the most powerful lawyers in his home state. He knew their demands were wrong, even though he could have easily and truthfully said “yes” to their substance. He refused solely because he thought asking him violated basic guarantees in the U.S. Constitution.

    The time was the early 1950s, and the demands came from ideological crusaders on the right, who insisted on anti-communist loyalty oaths. Today’s crusaders come from the left, demanding pledges of support for “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” (DEI). More on today’s ideological frenzy in a moment, but first, George’s story.

    George was never admitted to the bar. Instead, he taught political philosophy for six decades, wrote multiple books on political thought and civil liberties, eventually teaching at Loyola University’s law school. He was also our neighborhood Socrates, walking the streets of Hyde Park (near the University of Chicago) into his mid-80s, meeting friends and engaging in the kind of rigorous conversations recounted in Plato’s Dialogues.

    Why does George Anastaplo’s moral courage matter for us today? Because we are enduring another age of ideological zealotry, coupled with demands to “sign or resign.” Or never be hired in the first place.

    Today’s clearest analogy to anti-communist oaths are those demanding adherence to statements of “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.” The crucial point here is not the specific content of DEI statements. You might agree or disagree with them. The crucial point is that it is improper to make these demands for political conformity.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/05/12/todays_diversity_oaths_resemble_1950s_loyalty_oaths___147589.html

    Leave it to Democrats to bring back McCarthy'ism... :^/

  52. [52] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    So... Would you say that it might have been better that Biden LOST the election. At least his reputation would have been intact and he could have exited politics on a somewhat high note??

    I thought I made myself clear about that??

    I would say and have said that if Biden wasn't the Democratic nominee in 2020, then Trump wouldn't be a one-term president. As it stands now, I don't think Trump will ever be president again and that is a very good thing.

    Biden sacrificed quite a lot by running in 2020 and my appreciation for that knows no bounds!

    By the way, if Biden hadn't run in 2020 or if he had lost to Trump - which he almost did! - then I am as sure as I can be that Biden would NOT have gone out on a high note in any of your books. So, there!

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    GOP rep says illegal migrants sent ‘pallets’ of hard-to-find baby formula

    Cammack's claim comes as American parents worry about a shortage of baby formula
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/gop-rep-illegal-migrants-pallets-baby-formula

    Now THAT's just WRONG!!

  54. [54] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    i'm sure CW is busy with something important. he wouldn't let a fortnight of nonstop expletive-laced temper tantrums go unchecked otherwise. in case i didn't mention it, i'm very proud of you for taking the high road yet again, in spite of some pretty filthy provocation.

    JL

  55. [55] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yeah, Michale, what Joshua said!

  56. [56] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Liz-
    You can say only Biden could have beat Trump in 2020, but it is a stretch and there is no way to know for sure.

    It is more likely that Bernie would have won by more as the establishment Democrats would have to vote for Bernie because TRUMP! and many that would have voted for Bernie did not vote for Biden.

    Of Course, Bernie would not be running against Trump in 2020 if the Deathocrats had not nominated Hillary in 2016 as Bernie would have crushed Trump in 2016 as many of the voters that voted against the establishment candidate Hillary by voting for Trump would have chosen Bernie as the preferable anti-establishment candidate.

  57. [57] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Sorry, Don ... that doesn't make any sense.

  58. [58] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Which is par for the course.

  59. [59] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Nypoet-
    Nonstop expletive-laced temper tantrums and filthy provocations?

    Meeting you on common ground as Michale requested in a more honest way.

    Maybe the important thing CW is busy with is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sZnphH7L80

  60. [60] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Liz-
    So are you saying that establishment Democrat voters would not have voted for Bernie over Trump in 2016 after spending decades telling the progressive wing of the party to take one for the team by voting for establishment candidates?

    If you are right about that then who needs them?

  61. [61] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I am saying that Bernie couldn't even get the Democratic nomination let alone demonstrate a capacity for winning a general election.

    This ain't rocket science.

  62. [62] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Of course, he did have some stiff competetion. But, still ...

  63. [63] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Coulda woulda shoulda. Biden actually did win. Perhaps I'm in the minority on this, but i think given the situation he was handed he's done quite well. Spiking the ball too soon on COVID has cost him, as has the clusterfrak of leaving Afghanistan. But other criticisms on issues like inflation, supply chain and Ukraine are patently unfair. His performance overall has been mediocre, but I'll take that over the breakneck excitement of a trump white House every day and twice on Sundays.

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    in case i didn't mention it, i'm very proud of you for taking the high road yet again, in spite of some pretty filthy provocation.

    Thanx JL and Liz.. That means a lot.. Sincerely..

  65. [65] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Criticism of Biden on Ukraine is patently spot on, at every turn!

    Ukraine will be a "basket case" for many decades as a result of actions taken and not taken by Biden and NATO. That much is clear as a bell.

  66. [66] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    His performance overall has been mediocre, but I'll take that over the breakneck excitement of a trump white House every day and twice on Sundays.

    Indeed.

    I just get tired real fast of having to settle for mediocrity, at best. :(

  67. [67] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Love you, Michale! :)

  68. [68] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Liz-
    We were discussing hypothetical match ups.

    But if you want to go there Bernie could have won the nomination had the DNC not cheated. Remember that someone had to resign for that.

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Awwwww... Feelings mutual.. :D

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    Elementary school teachers say 'no' to parents' wishes they refer to students by pronouns given at birth

    'And because I had my principal and my superintendent’s support, there wasn't much they can do,' one educator said
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/elementary-school-teachers-parents-wishes-students-pronouns

    So... According to Democrats, parents are no longer "parents" any more...

    They are "caregivers"...

    It's like Democrats are TRYING to lose big in November..

    :eyeroll:

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL, you wanna weigh in??

    Would you obey the parent's instructions??

    Or the 5yr olds' orders??

    His performance overall has been mediocre, but I'll take that over the breakneck excitement of a trump white House every day and twice on Sundays.

    You prefer dull and incompetent over excitement and awesomely good at the job???

    Agree to disagree.. :D

  72. [72] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    I would listen to each parent regarding their own child and nobody else's.

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    I would listen to each parent regarding their own child and nobody else's.

    I thought you might..

    YOU are a good example of a good teacher..

    You need to straighten out the Democrats.. Imagine listening to the CHILD and not the parent..

    "I want to start smoking and drinking but my parents say NO."
    -8 yr old child

    "Well, then.. We don't have to listen to your parents. Your parents aren't safe. You should be able to make your OWN decisions.. Here, have a drink and a cigarette.. Now, why don't you sit right here next to me all comfy and cozy like.. Tell me, Johnny. Have you ever been to a Turkish Bath??"
    -Democrat Teacher

  74. [74] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter is a BERLIN WALL COMING DOWN moment..."
    -PayPal COO

    A-frakin'-men to THAT!!!

  75. [75] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are so incensed that they will no longer be able to kill babies in the womb...

    So, they settled on PLAN B...

    Republicans demand Biden admin immediately address baby formula shortage: 'This is not a third world country'

    'This is a crisis for families,' said one lawmaker
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-demand-biden-admin-immediately-address-baby-formula-shortage-not-third-world-country

    Starving the babies to death after they're born...

    :eyeroll:

  76. [76] 
    Michale wrote:

    Americans oppose transgender surgeries, anti-puberty blockers for minors: poll

    Medical professionals have told Fox News they have seen rates of gender dysphoria skyrocket among young people in recent years
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/americans-oppose-transgender-surgeries-anti-puberty-blockers-for-minors-poll

    Once again..

    The Democrat Party is on the WRONG side of the American people..

  77. [77] 
    Michale wrote:

    56% of respondents said they would support a ban, while 34% said they would not. A little over a third of those respondents identified as Democrats, while 37% identified as Republicans, and just under a quarter identified themselves as Independents, according to the survey by the American Principles Project Foundation.

    In another question, respondents were asked whether they supported or were against children being pushed into a sex change. Around 63% of respondents agreed that children were too young for the decision. Around 22% of respondents believed that opposition to gender transitioning was transphobic.

    Let me repeat that for the cheap seats..

    In another question, respondents were asked whether they supported or were against children being pushed into a sex change. Around 63% of respondents agreed that children were too young for the decision.

    Gender Dysphoria is an ABNORMALITY.. A mental health problem.. It needs to be CURED.. Not catered to..

    You wouldn't cater to a child with COVID.. Why would you want to cater to a child with mental health issues??

  78. [78] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK.. My time's my wife's now.. :D

    See ya'all in the morning..

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