A Grim Anniversary

[ Posted Thursday, January 6th, 2022 – 16:08 UTC ]

Instead of commenting on today's anniversary of the worst attack on the United States Capitol since 1814 (and the only one ever launched by American citizens) or how Congress is marking the occasion or President Joe Biden's rather forceful speech this morning, instead I am going to run the two columns from last year that expressed my own reactions to the outrage.

And I have only two words to add to all of it:


Never forget.


I'm Speechless

Originally published January 6, 2021


For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.
--Hosea, 8:7


All I can say is: I don't want to hear any Republican who is not condemning and denouncing what is currently happening right now get sanctimonious about "law and order" EVER again.


A Day Of Infamy

Originally published January 8, 2021


[Program Note: -- Due to the seriousness of events this week, we are pre-empting our usual Friday Talking Points format to instead bring you a free-form rant. Because if ever there were a week where a rant was needed, it was indeed this one.]

The sixth of January, 2021, has already gone down in American history as a day of infamy. This is, of course, the same phrase Franklin Roosevelt used to describe the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, and it certainly seems appropriate right now.

For the first time since August of 1814, the United States Capitol was attacked. Back then, it was British troops who were at war with America doing the attacking (and burning the building down on their way out). This week, it was a violent anarchist mob encouraged, aided, abetted, and incited by the sitting president of the United States. Five people have died as a direct result of this attack on democracy, one of them a police officer.

This is more than just another protest, folks. In all of the District of Columbia's history -- including during the Civil War -- the Capitol has never been besieged and invaded in such a fashion by Americans. There have been large groups of protesters on the Mall before -- up to a million of them at a time, for some causes -- but they've never violently occupied the legislative seat of out government before, no matter what they were protesting and no matter how angry they were. But this time -- even though the agitators were openly publishing their calls to arms and their intent to disrupt Congress in the Capitol -- neither the F.B.I. nor the Department of Homeland Security even bothered to do a threat assessment beforehand.

Up until this week, the Capitol Hill police were generally regarded as the nation's experts in crowd control and protest security. They should be; they probably provide security for 300 protests or more each and every year. Some would say they were even too heavy-handed in their policing methods, but none of that was on display this Wednesday. There simply was no overwhelming force deployed, the officers who were there were overwhelmed within about a half an hour, and there was no counteroffensive for three whole hours, during which time the cops pretty much just melted away. PBS reporter Lisa Desjardins (who pretty much deserves a Pulitzer for her reporting from inside the Capitol all day) witnessed a mob breaking into the front doors of the Capitol, and she gave an eyewitness account that there was not a single cop to be seen anywhere while this happened.

Where the cops were seen, sometimes they appeared to be genuinely helpful to the rioters. Barricades were opened up for them, and at least one cop posed for a selfie with a rioter. Another was seen gingerly leading a woman down some stairs and supportively holding her hand.

As many very quickly pointed out, the difference in response from federal officers and agents was markedly different than how Black Lives Matter protests were handled, all throughout last summer. One particularly poignant photo of an overwhelming line of riot-gear-clad officers guarding the Lincoln Memorial during a B.L.M. protest starkly showed how differently demonstrations are handled when the participants are Black and White. Donald Trump's photo opportunity with a borrowed Bible in front of a church that didn't invite him (and whose minister later denounced him) was brought up as well, since peaceful protesters were cleared with maximum federal force in order to allow Trump's propaganda photo to be taken.

To put it all another way, if these had been Black people attempting to storm the Capitol, there would be dozens of bodies on the ground and rivers of blood running down the steps before a single one of them got inside the building. Live ammunition would have been deployed at will. The clouds of tear gas would have been so thick it would have been impossible for the news organizations to even see the building. There would have been thousands of arrests, not fewer than 20. And they would simply not have been allowed to leave the building and just stroll back to their hotel -- they'd be on dozens of buses heading to jail, instead. This is White privilege, folks, right in front of everyone's eyes.

Within approximately 24 hours, the sergeants-at-arms of both the House and Senate had resigned, as well as the chief of the Capitol Hill police. That's a good start, but nowhere near sufficient.

Five people died in the United States Capitol, one of them a police officer who was savagely beaten with a fire extinguisher. He is now a martyr to democracy. Four people died in Benghazi, Libya, and Congress spent approximately the next two years launching investigation after investigation into the circumstances. Investigations into the police planning and response to Wednesday should begin immediately after Joe Biden is sworn into office and Chuck Schumer takes control of the Senate. Hard questions need to be asked, including why the Pentagon was refusing both the mayor and the governor of Maryland's request to send in some National Guard troops to retake the Capitol. Both requests were reportedly turned down. The D.C. National Guard is not under control of the mayor, it is under control of the president.

There is no better argument for why D.C. deserves statehood than that. In fact, it should be one of the first orders of business for the new Congress to tackle.

But let's not lose focus on why the phrase "a day of infamy" is so justified. Donald Trump committed an act of sedition against the United States government and our Constitution. The same Constitution he swore an oath to uphold and defend "against all enemies, foreign and domestic." He fomented an insurrection against Congress doing its constitutional duty by ending the process of a presidential election. His goal was to halt the process so Joe Biden wouldn't be officially declared the winner of an election he plainly and clearly won. Trump did all of this by flat-out lying to the public, ever since Election Day. And then he raised a mob and told them exactly what to do -- which they then did. They attacked the Capitol and Congress. Some might quibble over what exactly to call this (was it a coup attempt or treason?), but no matter what term you favor, everyone can agree that this was monstrously un-American.

Vice President Mike Pence is reportedly refusing to do his clear constitutional duty in supporting the movement to use the 25th Amendment to remove Donald Trump from office for being unfit for service. This leaves impeachment as the only route to get rid of him before Joe Biden is sworn in on the 20th. "But doesn't impeachment take weeks and weeks, and is therefore pointless since he'll be gone anyway?" The answer to that is: "Who cares?"

It is the sworn duty of the House of Representatives to impeach Donald Trump as soon as is possible (Monday morning, one would hope). There is no reason to hold any committee hearings at all. A first-year law student could present the case, because it is so damning and so self-explanatory. I have no legal training, and yet I bet I could do a decent job of presenting the case:


Exhibit A -- the audio of Trump's call to the Georgia secretary of state, where Trump tells him "I need 11,780 votes."

Exhibit B -- Trump's tweets and utterances encouraging everyone to come to D.C. on the sixth, including his promise that "It's going to be wild."

Exhibit C -- The entire video history of the rally held on the Ellipse on the morning of the sixth. This would include video of Rudy Giuliani calling for "trial by combat," Donald Trump Junior's promise: "we will never, ever, ever stop fighting," Lara Trump's statement that: "The fight has only just begun. Our family didn't get in this fight for just four years. We're in this fight to the bitter end."

This would also include Trump's speech, where he said things like:

"They rigged an election, they rigged it like they've never rigged an election before.... We won it by a landslide. This was not a close election."

"We will never concede."

"We got to get rid of the weak congresspeople."

"Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue" and "take back our country."

"Walk down to the Capitol."

"Fight much harder."

"You'll never take back our country with weakness."

Exhibit D -- A sampling of news media video and social media video (posted by participants in the riot) which show the U.S. Capitol being besieged and overtaken by a violent riot.

Exhibit E -- the medical records of the police officer who died.

Exhibit F -- Trump's first video message (which was eventually taken down from Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram) to the rioters and anarchists, which includes the lines: "remember this day forever," and: "We love you. You're very special."

Exhibit G -- Pentagon memos and affidavits showing both the D.C. mayor and the governor of Maryland asked to send in the National Guard -- a decision only Donald Trump could approve -- and were repeatedly refused any help, while the Capitol had already been invaded and occupied.

I rest my case.


Donald Trump incited and abetted this riot, before, during, and after the fact. Ivanka Trump tweeted her approval of the "American patriots" -- while the rioters were inside the Capitol. This is both disgusting and very, very dangerous. Which is why Donald Trump needs to be impeached for a second time.

So what if he'd already be out of office by the time it finished? Impeachment has one other important function as well as removal from office, because Congress has the power to bar someone from ever holding federal office again. This would kill any hopes Trump has of running again in 2024 -- which would actually be a giant relief to most Republicans in Congress, truth be told. So it is not impossible that such an impeachment would succeed. The Senate is not scheduled to return to its session until the 19th of the month, one day before Biden will be sworn in. Which means that any Senate trial would take place under the control of Chuck Schumer, not Mitch McConnell.

The best insider account of how Donald Trump spent his day this Wednesday comes from the Washington Post. The whole article is just breathtaking. Here are a few key excerpts:

One administration official described Trump's behavior as that of "a total monster." Another said the situation was "insane" and "beyond the pale."

"He is alone. He is mad King George," said a Republican in frequent touch with the White House. "Trump believes that he has these people so intimidated they wouldn't dare mess with him. I think Trump doesn't understand how precarious his situation is right now."

. . .

As for Trump, one of the people said, "he was completely, totally out of it." This person added, "He made no attempt to reach out to them."

Instead of exercising his commander-in-chief duties to help protect the Capitol from an attempted insurrection, Trump watched the attack play out on television. Though not necessarily enjoying himself, he was "bemused" by the spectacle because he thought his supporters were literally fighting for him, according to a close adviser. But, this person said, he was turned off by what he considered the "low-class" spectacle of people in ragtag costumes rummaging through the Capitol.

. . .

"He kept saying: 'The vast majority of them are peaceful. What about the riots this summer? What about the other side? No one cared when they were rioting. My people are peaceful. My people aren't thugs,' " an administration official said. "He didn't want to condemn his people."

"He was a total monster today," this official added, describing the president's handling of Wednesday's coup attempt as less defensible than his equivocal response to the deadly white-supremacist rally in 2017 in Charlottesville.

. . .

White House aides tried to get Trump to call in to Fox News Channel, but he refused. He at first did not want to say anything but was persuaded to send tweets. Then they scripted a video message for him to record, which he agreed to distribute on Twitter. But the president ad-libbed by including references to false voter fraud claims that they had asked him not to include, the administration official said.

. . .

A former senior administration official briefed on the president's private conversations said: "The thing he was most upset about and couldn't get over all day was the Pence betrayal.... All day, it was a theme of, 'I made this guy, I saved him from a political death, and here he stabbed me in the back?' "

So the president of the United States was "bemused" by what he saw on television. But he was annoyed that they were "low-class," and not dressed properly. You just can't make this stuff up, folks.

Every living ex-president denounced Trump's actions. Three out of four of these (Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama) are Democrats. But even Republican George W. Bush was pretty forceful in condemning what had just happened:

Laura and I are watching the scenes of mayhem unfolding at the seat of our Nation's government in disbelief and dismay. It is a sickening and heartbreaking sight. This is how election results are disputed in a banana republic -- not our democratic republic. I am appalled by the reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election and by the lack of respect shown today for our institutions, our traditions, and our law enforcement. The violent assault on the Capitol -- and disruption of a Constitutionally-mandated meeting of Congress -- was undertaken by people whose passions have been inflamed by falsehoods and false hopes. Insurrection could do grave damage to our Nation and reputation. In the United States of America, it is the fundamental responsibility of every patriotic citizen to support the rule of law. To those who are disappointed in the results of the election: Our country is more important than the politics of the moment. Let the officials elected by the people fulfill their duties and represent our voices in peace and safety. May God continue to bless the United States of America.

He wasn't the only Republican denouncing Trump. In fact, several people who worked directly for Trump did so as well. Mitt Romney did so during the debates (which finally were allowed to take place, after the building had been cleared of insurrectionists), and he minced no words:

We gather today due to a selfish man's injured pride and the outrage of his supporters who he has deliberately misinformed for the past two months and stirred to action this very morning. What happened here today was an insurrection, incited by the president of the United States.

. . .

No congressional audit is ever going to convince these voters, particularly when the president will continue to say the election was stolen. The best way we can show respect for the voters who are upset is by telling them the truth!

He got a big round of applause for that line. Romney also put out a statement:

Today, the United States Capitol -- the world's greatest symbol of self-government -- was ransacked while the leader of the free world cowered behind his keyboard -- tweeting against his Vice President for fulfilling the duties of his oath to the Constitution.

Lies have consequences. This violence was the inevitable and ugly outcome of the President's addiction to constantly stoking division.

Even Lindsey Graham denounced the efforts to overturn the election from the Senate floor (although many pointed out that Lindsey looked and sounded like he had had quite a few drinks before his speech), concluding with: "Count me out. Enough is enough."

Here is Jim Mattis, Trump's first secretary of Defense:

Today's tyranny, an effort to subjugate America's democracy by mob rule, was fomented and directed by Mr. Trump. His effort to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice.

William Barr, who was Trump's lickspittle attorney general before he left (right before Christmas), also had some strong language to denounce what happened. He called Trump's actions "a betrayal of his office and supporters," and stated further: "orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable."

Mick Mulvaney, who used to be Trump's chief of staff, resigned his special envoy post, saying: "We didn't sign up for what you saw last night. We signed up for making America great again. We signed up for lower taxes and less regulation. The president has a long list of successes that we can be proud of. But all of that went away yesterday."

John Kelly, also a former Trump chief of staff, was even more blunt, saying the violence "was a direct result of [Donald Trump] poisoning the minds of people with the lies and the fraud."

Retired four-star general Barry McCaffrey was even clearer: "This is an overt coup attempt against the Constitution and to take over the government of the United States. This wasn't a momentary, impulsive crowd. This was deliberately structured by Trump, almost all out in the open."

The Wall Street Journal ran an editorial calling on Trump to resign.

In other words, the dam has finally broken. Trump went too far, even for those who have been riding on his coattails for four years now. Even Republicans are now denouncing him.

Of course, those of us on the other side of the political aisle have been warning that something like this could happen for four long years now. What happened Wednesday was shocking, but it should have come as a surprise to precisely no one.

Donald Trump has been a blight on American democracy from his initial entry into the presidential race. He has destroyed so many norms of behavior it is impossible to count them all. He will exit office having told in the neighborhood of 30,000 lies to the American public while he was president. He got more and more dangerous as the election approached, right out in the open for all to see. Once the election did happen, he retreated into a fantasyland where he had clearly won (because everyone around him had assured him that it simply was not possible for him to lose). And he started amplifying his delusions and spiraling down further into madness.

Wednesday was just the final result, but it didn't happen in a vacuum. Ever since the election, Trump has been aided and abetted by every single Republican who had not congratulated Joe Biden on his victory (and there were precious few of those). They enabled Trump's delusion. They fed it. They defended in on television, in the hopes that Trump would see and maybe praise them on Twitter.

In the end, Trump proved himself to be exactly what we've been saying he is all along: a bully, a thug, and a man-baby who operates by tantrum alone. That is who has been leading our country for the past four years. So please, spare me the surprise, Republicans. If you had eyes to see, you could have figured it out long ago, so don't even try to say how shocked you are now when you've been enabling his worst impulses all along.

All along, Republicans have excused Trump's infantile and vicious behavior. They've pooh-poohed it as just "Trump being Trump," as if the words of the president just somehow did not matter to them. "Oh, he's only kidding," or "he's just being sarcastic," and a few dozen other similar bromides were the stock in trade of Trump's minions and apologists. They could always rationalize and justify what Trump had said, somehow. And, sadly, for the most part the news media just took everything at face value and refused to say things like: "The president lied to the public today about a very dangerous issue." It wasn't until the Capitol was under assault that these reporters finally snapped out of their own delusion and started reporting what was before their very eyes in plain language.

We now have a delusional president who cannot face reality and has retreated into a fantasyland inside his own head. And he still has the nuclear codes. Mike Pence is the ultimate coward in all of this, because a clearer case for invoking the 25th Amendment is indeed hard to imagine.

In the most literal way possible, Trump lied and people died. That alone is sufficient reason to expel him from office.

[BREAKING NEWS: Twitter has just "permanently suspended" Donald Trump's Twitter account. If they can do it, so can Congress....]

In fact, that seems like a great place to end this. A truly fitting end, in fact.

-- Chris Weigant


Follow Chris on Twitter: @ChrisWeigant


41 Comments on “A Grim Anniversary”

  1. [1] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    I still love the ultimate irony of the lady wearing the "Don't Tread on Me" flag being trampled to death by her own people. Trumpism in a nutshell...

  2. [2] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Just a little reminder that the comments sections used to be fun around here ...

  3. [3] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller

    You said we were fun scarcely hours ago:

    Pray tell, whatever did we do (or not do) in the intervening hours that reshaped your opinion? ;)

  4. [4] 
    Kick wrote:


    Oh, I see... Rosanne Boyland.

    One of the Trump rioters actually blamed the police for the stampede and shared images of himself (and others, of course) participating in the fight at the door where she was trampled to death.

    You see, the officers were refusing to allow the insurrectionists into the door, so the scumbags destroying the capitol and assaulting the police repeatedly had really no choice but to trample Ms. Boyland to death. *bad sarcasm*

    The piece of shit who blamed the officers for her death was arrested on January 16 (thanks for the social media posts, asshole).

    Here is video of the stampede at the door wherein Ms. Boyland was trampled to death. It was the door where presidents emerge to be inaugurated.

    Yes, M... no fun at all.

  5. [5] 
    goode trickle wrote:


    Just a little reminder that the comments sections used to be fun around here ...

    You will have to excuse me here... BUT... you are not in any way entitled to an opinion on the "FUN" of the comments section given that you and JL "missed Michale" and welcomed him back with open arms, while you told me to "write something intelligent".

    You have exactly what you whished deal...or do i need to throw a few more real sharp elbows?

    In the meantime go perform your Canadian Hand Wringing exercise elsewhere...

    As Popeye would say "you gots whats you asked for"...

  6. [6] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    here's a little something for everyone's perusal:

  7. [7] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    I was just reminded of the other image of that day I found quite compelling: Andy Kim cleaning up afterword, the only congress critter there humble enough to do so. We need more like him...

  8. [8] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    define "fun"...

    The definition will likely be different for each person you ask.

  9. [9] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:


    you are not in any way entitled to an opinion on the "FUN" of the comments section given that you and JL "missed Michale" and welcomed him back with open arms, while you told me to "write something intelligent".

    Yeah, Elizabeth. What the fuck were you thinking?

  10. [10] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:


    Haven't you figured out by now that neither Don nor Michale are interested in anything besides getting people to pay attention to them? They escalate their outrageousness until someone bites but that IMO pollutes Weigantia.

    To one and all I say the best way to insult trolls is to not even acknowledge their existence, as they are not worth anyone's time.

    Just say no.

  11. [11] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:


    So am I to gather that your full name is Joshua Eisenstein?

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's amazing how ya'all simply cannot stop talking about me..

    Especially MtnCaddy who goes on and on about how much he hates me and how much everyone should ignore me, yet 100% of his comments in this commentary alone mentions me..

    One thing that is undeniable is that, for most of the people here in Weigantia(™michale) I have rent-free space in their heads.. :D

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:



    Just a little reminder that the comments sections used to be fun around here ...

    You will have to excuse me here... BUT... you are not in any way entitled to an opinion on the "FUN" of the comments section given that you and JL "missed Michale" and welcomed him back with open arms, while you told me to "write something intelligent".

    Are you talking to me or Liz???

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:


    Just a little reminder that the comments sections used to be fun around here ...

    Oh, things are fun around here again. As a matter of fact, I am so taken about how things here in Weigantia(™michale) are so much like the old days, I am going to be posting pics of our family Snow Park adventure.. Stay tuned.. :D

    Oh, and can you give me your final word on the Weigantian(™michale) wager donation?? I want to get that behind me and make full payment on the wager..

    Welcher...??? Haarrumph... Not even close.. :D

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, let's get to some FACTS about 6 Jan that ya'all simply ignore because they are inconvenient to ya'all's hysterical and BS narrative...

    Please note that these facts come from the ONLY OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED News Source here in Weigantia(™michale) that is objective and unbiased..

    Updated and Reposted:
    RealClearInvestigations' Jan. 6-BLM Riots Comparison

    The summer 2020 riots resulted in some 15 times more injured police officers, 23 times as many arrests, and estimated damages in dollar terms up to 1,300 times more costly than those of the Capitol riot.

    Authorities have pursued the largely Trump-supporting Capitol rioters with substantially more vigor than suspected wrongdoers in the earlier two cases, and prosecutors and judges alike have weighed Capitol riot defendants’ political views in adjudicating their cases.

    Dozens of accused Capitol rioters have been held in pretrial detention for months, where they have allegedly been mistreated.

    In the summer 2020 riots, the vast majority of charges were dismissed, as they were in the Inauguration 2017 unrest. Prosecutors have dropped a single Capitol riot case.

    Keep in mind that this represents just a SINGLE YEAR of Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots..

    This country has been thru 22 YEARS (collectively) of Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots...

    Even just using ONE YEAR of that 22 years proves beyond ANY doubt that 6 Jan is nothing compared to the violence and attacks on HUNDREDS of government buildings all over the country that Democrats have perpetrated against this country..

    A Resource on Violent Political Unrest, Continually Updated

    View the link for an excellent chart that factually compares the SINGLE 6 Jan violent riot vs A FULL YEAR (2020) George Floyd Riots and the 2017 INAGURATION RIOTS... Both committed by Democrats...

    The *FACTS* conclusively prove beyond ANY doubt how fully of kaa-kaa Democrats and Trump/America haters are...

    My arguments are based on FACTS and PROVEN accurate data...

    Ya'all's arguments are based SOLELY on hysterical emotionalism..


    ^^^^ Hysterical emotionalism without a LICK of fact...

    And THAT is why ya'all lose this argument.

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    The one-year anniversary of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot arrives this week with Americans still sharply divided over the afternoon-long episode’s significance and severity as Democrats, hemorrhaging support and facing the loss of Congress in this year's midterms, sternly present a media spectacle of public events to emphasize what they see as the threat posed to democracy by Donald Trump and his party, as represented by that day.

    There is no comparable scrutiny of the nationwide summer 2020 riots over George Floyd’s murder, protests endorsed by many on the left amid a virulent pandemic -- although polling has shown that a large majority of Americans support examining the circumstances of both events.

    RealClearInvestigations has developed the comparison database allowing readers to draw their own conclusions -- including the all-but-forgotten riot in Washington on Inauguration Day 2017, as protesters challenged Trump’s election and legitimacy.

    The RCI database proves conclusively that the 6 Jan hysteria is SOLELY based on partisan politics and has no factual basis in reality..

    Given the facts, that is the only conclusion possible...

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:


    To one and all I say the best way to insult trolls is to not even acknowledge their existence, as they are not worth anyone's time.

    Just say no.

    Why should anyone listen to you when it's obvious you can't even follow your own advice??

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:


    Snow Cat Ridge in Dade City, FL...

    Although not nearly as fun as real snow, it was a blast!!! :D

    Our grandkids have never seen snow before and, while it's true, they probably still haven't, it was close enough for them to have a kick arse time!! :D

    Feel free to peruse our awesomely fun time..

    Cut n Paste the following into your CHROME Web Browser...

    A fun time was had by all!!! :D

  19. [19] 
    Kick wrote:


    here's a little something for everyone's perusal

    Very nice.

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    Looks like Basement Biden is going to get his pee-pee whacked (*AGAIN*) by the SCOTUS over his hysterical and non-scientific based Vaccine Mandate..

    Conservative Supreme Court justices grill Biden lawyer on OSHA vaccine requirement

    Justices seem split along ideological lines on vaccine requirements affecting nearly 100 million workers

    A vaccine mandate for a virus that has a 99%+ survival rate...

    A vaccine mandate for a new variant that hasn't seen a *SINGLE* death in the United States..

    Get that... Omicron has **NOT** killed a single person in the US...

    NO ONE in the US has died of Omicron...

    These are the facts...

    Basement Biden is gonna get spanked **AGAIN** by the SCOTUS...

    CANNOT wait til the Roe V Wade killer ruling is handed down in June.. :D

  21. [21] 
    Kick wrote:


    JL, due to your very nice petition, I should like to get your thoughts regarding the Supreme Court hearing today regarding Biden's testing mandate for large employers.

    I cannot fathom how a Supreme Court that would deign to issue their own testing mandates regarding COVID would deny the President of the United States to issue similar mandates in order to protect Americans:

    Supreme Court of the United States
    Office of the Clerk
    Washington, DC 20543-0001

    Scott S. Harris
    Clerk of the Court
    (202) 479-3011

    September 27, 2021

    Below is information concerning the October, November and December 2021 oral argument sessions.

    1. COVID testing. Arguing counsel and co-counsel planning to attend argument are asked to take a PCR COVID test on the morning before argument (including Sunday before a Monday argument). The Court will arrange for testing at a downtown medical facility at Court expense. We expect that results of those tests will be available by 6:00pm on the same day that they are administered.

    2. Remote argument. An arguing attorney who receives a positive test will not argue in person, but will instead be expected to participate remotely by telephone connection to the Courtroom. While we hope that the chances of this occurring are small, counsel should give
    some advance consideration to the telephone setup that they would use in the event that it is necessary. Our experience with telephonic arguments has been that use of an iPhone or comparable cellular phone with wired earbuds worked well, so long as the cellular signal was strong in that location. Attorneys who have participated in the Court’s telephonic arguments could also choose to use the same setup that was used previously. The best sound quality in those arguments was obtained through a traditional landline (not a “Voice over Internet
    Protocol” line) with a commercial-grade conference speakerphone that supports full-duplex calling, i.e., a telephone that allows someone speaking to hear clearly when another person on the line is speaking as well. Questioning by telephone would follow the same format as in the Courtroom.

    3. Courtroom procedures. Assuming that test results are negative, counsel should report to the Lawyers’ Lounge by 9:15am on the morning of argument. Counsel can enter through the northwest door (on the ground level to the left of the front steps), and we ask that you not enter before 8:45am. Please note that that there will be no access to the Court cafeteria or Library for counsel on the day of argument. At the meeting in the Lawyers’ Lounge, we will go over Courtroom procedures and answer any last-minute questions. Counsel in the first case of the day can then move to the Courtroom. If there is a second argument, counsel in that case will remain in the Lawyers’ Lounge until the first case breaks, and then will move promptly to the Courtroom for argument. Audio of the argument will be made available in the Lawyers’ Lounge. Counsel in the first case will be expected to leave the Courtroom and the building after the first case is finished.

    4. COVID precautions. The Court asks that attorneys wear masks that cover the nose and mouth at all times within the Court building, except when actively eating or drinking. The Court also asks that attorneys wear an N95 or KN95 mask in the Courtroom, except when presenting argument. N95 or KN95 masks will be provided in the Lawyers’ Lounge.

    It's this same SCOTUS who's mandated testing for anyone entering their working environment, and prohibits entrance to those who test positive, that will decide whether or not the President of the United States has the power via testing mandate to protect the working environments of Americans who work for large employers (defined 100+ employees).

    Apparently the Ohio Solicitor General who argued against mandates before the SCOTUS today was required to phone in because he tested positive when he took the PCR test mandated by the SCOTUS.

    The Court required a PCR test yesterday which detected the virus so for that reason he is arguing remotely.

    ~ Statement from Office of Ohio Solicitor General Benjamin Flowers

    When is some enterprising attorney going to sue the Supreme Court for their mandates? I mean, if these testing mandates are unconstitutional (as purported by the right-wing nutjobs who submitted themselves to said testing mandates before being allowed to argue the unconstitutionality of the president's testing mandates) then why on Earth is the Supreme Court issuing testing mandates, mask mandates, and also closing the Supreme Court to the public and those who fail to test negative to the SCOTUS testing mandates?

    Discuss. :)

  22. [22] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:


    If only irony wasn't dead.

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    As ya'all know, my evenings belong to my lovely wife, so I will see ya'all first thing in the morning for another full day of FACTS and REALITY (me) vs Hysterical Partisan Emotionalism (Ya'all)... :D

    Have a happy.. :D

  24. [24] 
    Kick wrote:


    So am I to gather that your full name is Joshua Eisenstein?

    I congratulate you on your reading ability; however, allow me to remind you that a full name in America generally (but not always) contains three components. Yes, I tease; I am fun that way.

    Wasn't that an excellent petition? I thought so.

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    OOoopss.. Forgot one thing..

    "We have hospitals that are almost at full capacity with people severely ill on ventilators. We have over 100,000 children, which we've never had before, in serious condition, many on ventilators."
    -Justice Sotomayer

    Hysterical and ignorant..

    The ACTUAL facts??

    The current national pediatric COVID census per HHS is 3,342. Many/most incidental.

    Once again.. Proof positive that Democrats/America Haters are hysterical and emotional without any facts to back up their claims..

    OK... NOW I am outta here.. :D

  26. [26] 
    Kick wrote:


    It's amazing how ya'all simply cannot stop talking about me..

    Definitely reminds me of you and your demonstrable terminal butthurt and victimhood wherein you cannot stop yourself from whining about other posters. Also never fails to evoke thoughts of Cousin Eddie and the jelly of the month club.

    Especially MtnCaddy who goes on and on about how much he hates me and how much everyone should ignore me, yet 100% of his comments in this commentary alone mentions me..

    Incorrect... as per usual. So, you either suck at math or your well-known reading comprehension issues continue unabated... or both.

    One thing that is undeniable is that, for most of the people here in Weigantia(™michale) I have rent-free space in their heads.. :D

    Allow me to explain your pathetic existence here, which description will be totally accurate and on point, as I am wont to do:

    You are a troll who occupies rent-free space here who gets his jollies by prattling on incessantly and shitting all over the board every chance you get. Then you strut around like you're somebody because no one failed to notice your colossal shitstorm.

  27. [27] 
    Kick wrote:


    Oh, and can you give me your final word on the Weigantian(™michale) wager donation?? I want to get that behind me and make full payment on the wager..

    Welcher...??? Haarrumph... Not even close.. :D

    As for that bet with MtnCaddy the troll lost, he has claimed that Donald Trump received 18% of the "black" vote... which is bullshit, as per his usual. He has therefore underpaid the wager to which agreed, and didn't pay CW, which he claimed he would pay... and this, of course, was after he agreed to said wager to pay CW, which was made multiple years after the incident he is blaming as his reason for welching on the actual recipient of the bet.

    If he had anything against CW over that old butthurt he can't get over, he would have naturally never insisted on the wager at the outset with MtnCaddy. This whole "I refuse to honor my bet to pay CW that I made with MtnCaddy for reasons that existed years and years before said bet" is just nonsensical revisionist history and also not rocket science.

    So to recap: He has welched on the bet by:

    * Understating the amount he's required to pay by overstating the amount of "black" vote received by Trump. Trump actually received 8% and not 18%.

    * Not paying CW as agreed to in the bet... for reasons that existed years before he made the bet with CW.

    So, yes, the troll is quite obviously butthurt with CW for reasons we all witnessed, and blaming CW for his other pre-existing butthurt at the time of the bet is side-splitting comedy as well as revisionist history. He is butthurt on top of butthurt and now welching on top of welching.

    Congratulations on kicking his ass, MtnCaddy, but he practically insisted that you do it when he made that ridiculous wager.

  28. [28] 
    Kick wrote:


    Proof for facts contained in [27]

    Apart from the small shift among Hispanic voters, Joe Biden’s electoral coalition looked much like Hillary Clinton’s, with Black, Hispanic and Asian voters and those of other races casting about four-in-ten of his votes. Black voters remained overwhelmingly loyal to the Democratic Party, voting 92%-8% for Biden.

    Pew Research Center

  29. [29] 
    nypoet22 wrote:


    no, it's Joshua Michael Lynn Ebsworth Shafner Eisenstein

    (the Shafner is only honorary, but the rest is in fact my legal name.)


    yes, the current supreme court majority are massive hypocrites. and this surprises whom?


  30. [30] 
    nypoet22 wrote:


    almost forgot, if i want to get even snootier i'm also entitled to add the initials Ph.D. at the end.


  31. [31] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:


    Yeah, I wondered who (if anyone) would be anal enough to point that out.

    Congratulations, you're the big winner. I knew you had it in you. *smh*

  32. [32] 
    Kick wrote:


    yes, the current supreme court majority are massive hypocrites. and this surprises whom?

    Mandates for me but not for thee, eh?

    The Supreme Court can lock out the public and anyone who fails their testing mandate from their work environment and additionally require the wearing of masks in their work environment. So if these hypocrites decide it is unconstitutional for the POTUS to protect American citizens from COVID in the same manner they are protecting themselves, then I think the President of the United States should sign an Executive Order forbidding the closure of the SCOTUS to the public.

    If it is declared unconstitutional by these hypocrites for POTUS to require testing mandates, then the SCOTUS can shove the Supreme Court testing/mask mandates as high up their asses as they can manage -- depending on arm length and ass girth, etcetera, et alia -- and can open up the Supreme Court posthaste to the public... bar none, sans testing, sans masking, and RIGHT EFFING NOW.

  33. [33] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:


    Always appreciate the shout out but all I did was take candy from a baby. I feel maybe I should have resisted temptation, in fact. But then troll said "it'll be for a good cause" (oh, the irony!) and I had to go for it.

  34. [34] 
    Kick wrote:


    Yeah, I wondered who (if anyone) would be anal enough to point that out.

    Well, I am definitely the documentarian around here, and I was funning you because I am nothing if not fun.

    I also documented in [27] the facts regarding your bet with the troll and him welching in multiple ways. The only thing I left out was your intelligent observation about the troll's word and rat piss. Feel better now?

    Congratulations, you're the big winner. I knew you had it in you. *smh*

    Heh. :)

  35. [35] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Authorities have pursued the largely Trump-supporting Capitol rioters with substantially more vigor than suspected wrongdoers in the earlier two cases, and prosecutors and judges alike have weighed Capitol riot defendants’ political views in adjudicating their cases.

    An insurrection is political by its nature. This is especially true when the outgoing President and leader of the Republican Party plans, organizes, and leads the attack on the Capitol to overturn the EC vote. The January 6 failed insurrection’s purpose was, therefore, political — so it is common sense to expect the accused’s political beliefs to be part of the prosecution’s questioning.

    The riots that occurred during the Floyd protests were not politically motivated. Politics were not brought up during the prosecution of those accused of committing crimes because politics played no role in what occurred.

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    The riots that occurred during the Floyd protests were not politically motivated.

    Not factually accurate.. By their own admission, the Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots were politically motivated. In their own words, BLM and AntiFa sought to, thru violence, bring about social and political change.

    Black Lives Matter: An analysis of Social-Political Activism in Social Media

    So, it's factually proven that BLM is political..

    BLM is a communist organization started by communist organizers for the purpose of the overthrow of the US Government.

    BLM and Antifa use violence and intimidation to cause political change.

    They have many partners in crime, corporations and individuals.

    America has been primed for violence by the mass news media, deep state-shadow government for several years.

    There are many communist organizations with various names promoting the current violence.

    The democrate party is promoting the current violence.

    History is repeating itself again as explained below.

    A Communist & Anarchist Movement That Explicitly Endorses Violence
    Antifa is a revolutionary Marxist/anarchist militia movement that seeks to bring down the United States by means of violence and intimidation. As a September 2017 report in The Atlantic notes, Antifa is responsible for “a level of sustained political street warfare not seen in the U.S. since the 1960s.”

    So, as you can see, Russ...

    The facts prove you completely and utterly wrong..

    An insurrection is political by its nature. This is especially true when the outgoing President and leader of the Republican Party plans, organizes, and leads the attack on the Capitol to overturn the EC vote.

    And yet, the FBI has categorically stated that there are no facts to support your claims..

    Funny how that is, eh? :D

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    An insurrection is political by its nature.

    What are "Autonomous Zones" but an insurrection??

    AntiFa is purely political.. BLM is purely political..

    Political violence and political intimidation..

    These are the facts...

  38. [38] 
    Kick wrote:


    Always appreciate the shout out but all I did was take candy from a baby. I feel maybe I should have resisted temptation, in fact. But then troll said "it'll be for a good cause" (oh, the irony!) and I had to go for it.

    His revisionist history after the fact when he agreed to the wager beforehand is totally transparent. He's butthurt about being called out for his spamming the board with entire articles... so suddenly he returns and claims CW is "dead to him" based on something that happened years ago? I call bullshit on that. He's now a freeloading troll on CW's forum and a welcher on the bet he insisted on, and while he's gullible enough to fall for his own invented bullshit, he's only fooling himself if he believes he fooled CW or anyone else with that revisionist history bullshit ridiculous after-the-fact drivel and spew when he was begging us all to bet him for a worthy cause, CW.

    So, to recap: You are correct, the troll is a welcher... and on multiple levels based on his bullshit:

    * He underpaid the wager based on the terms.
    * He stiffed CW based on his butthurt revisionist history.

    He's also multiple butthurt but hasn't slowed down posting his personal information on this forum. It doesn't get more ignorant than that.

  39. [39] 
    Kick wrote:


    Russ, you are correct, of course, and isn't it just infinitely comical to listen to the gullible righties whine about the "politicization" of their attempted coup? They had a shit-ton of signs printed up that read "stop the steal," and they seriously think the reason for their planned conspiracy isn't giant honking obvious?

    Nice post. :)

  40. [40] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:


    Hello, sweet friend! It’s been too long! Thanks for the comment!


  41. [41] 
    Kick wrote:


    It really has been too long, but I am never not here.

    You and yours best be taking care of yourselves; I know you will be because we are all men of action.


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