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Dr. Jill Biden's Chance To Lead

[ Posted Thursday, April 14th, 2022 – 15:29 UTC ]

There's a new poll out on the subject of what the American public thinks about schools that shows how wide an opening there is for Democrats to exhibit some leadership on the issue, especially considering how much political hay Republicans are planning on making over it all in the midterm elections. As a Washington Post article about the poll puts it, there is a "silent majority" that simply does not agree with the Republican position on things like banning books from school libraries and curricula, teaching sex and sexuality, or mentioning race and racism. But while a majority of the public can afford to stay silent on these issues, Democrats cannot. Which led me to an idea -- one I haven't heard anyone else put forward yet. Why not have a Democratic point person on education and educational issues that can articulate a clear position and back it up against the slings and arrows of the right? And who better to step into such a role than First Lady Dr. Jill Biden?

Before I get to my reasoning (which should actually be pretty obvious) for this suggestion, let's take a look at those poll results first (emphasis in original):

To hear Republicans tell it, fed-up citizens are standing up to leftist teachers and school administrators who have been infecting little ones' minds with unpatriotic historical revisionism and outré social theories.

But what if most Americans don't actually believe that? A new poll from the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy and the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research suggests a genuine silent majority of people who think what's happening in schools is just fine -- and many of them believe there should be more discussion of race and sexuality.

These are not people we hear much from at the moment, when conservatives have successfully whipped up a very loud moral panic over how race and sex are discussed in schools. But consider some of the poll's findings:

  • By 58 percent to 12 percent, Americans oppose "prohibiting books about divisive topics from being taught in schools." (The rest are undecided.)
  • By 53 percent to 21 percent, they oppose "prohibiting teachers from teaching about sex and sexuality in schools."
  • 71 percent say their local school system is either focusing too little on racism or focusing the right amount, while just 27 percent say it is focusing on it too much.
  • 71 percent also say teachers in their local schools are either discussing issues related to sex and sexuality the right amount or not enough. Only 23 percent say teachers are discussing sex and sexuality too much.

The article goes on to point out the political opportunity this could be:

Which is why it's so important that Democrats not just try to change the subject when Republicans promote their moral panics, but actively push back on them. Not only would it be the right thing to do, but it could also be an extremely effective midterm election strategy, both to convince independent voters that giving Republicans more power is dangerous, and to motivate Democratic voters to get to the polls.

Yet that's not happening.

This is all part of a wider problem, the seeming inability of the Democratic Party to ever get its communications act together and strongly state what they are for and against in short, snappy ways that resonate with the public. This is just one issue among many, in other words, where the party is falling down on a critical aspect of politics: define yourself, don't let your opponents do it for you.

Which brings me back to the First Lady. The choice of Dr. Jill Biden to lead the Democratic effort on schools and education is, as I said, a pretty obvious one. The only First Lady in American history to hold down a job outside the White House, Dr. Jill has not given up on teaching even while her husband is president. Teaching. She has spent her entire professional career in education. She now teaches at the community college level and earlier she spent over a decade teaching high school students. It'd be hard to imagine a better choice for a point person on educational issues, in fact.

Dr. Jill is not just committed to education, she has dedicated her professional life to it. She knows what she's talking about. She's walked the walk. She has first-hand experience that few politicians can claim (the only exception which springs to mind is Senator Elizabeth Warren, in fact, although there are almost certainly others). She is married to the president, which gives her a bully pulpit and/or a megaphone (choose your own metaphor) much bigger than anyone else could wield. And she's not busy running for any political office, which would give her the freedom to lead the effort on behalf of those Democrats who are.

The role of First Lady has evolved dramatically in the past few decades. Prior to Hillary Clinton, First Ladies were expected to choose some fairly benign "cause" and use their position and fame to champion it (or, in the case of a disease, champion the fight against it). But since the 1990s, First Ladies can either choose this traditional role or take a much more active stance on just about any issue they choose to. They are no longer seen as somehow removed from or politely barred from politics. Their cause doesn't have to be some apolitical anodyne feel-good stance anymore. That glass ceiling has already been broken.

So why shouldn't Dr. Jill Biden begin to champion teachers and school librarians, and fight back against the demonization the right is subjecting them to? The public already supports such a position, so half the work has already been done. But even with those poll results, Democrats have got to provide a counternarrative to the fearmongering the Republicans are currently engaged in. They have to stand up for modern education in a way they so far have been incapable or unwilling to do.

Dr. Jill Biden could lead on the issue. She could relate to teachers quite easily, since she is one herself. She could relate to parents, since she has dealt with so many of them over the years. She could relate to students, since she still teaches classes on a regular basis. If she could get out and explain the Democratic position on schools and education, it might just do the party a world of good.

Dr. Jill has already been an advocate for education in her husband's administration. She was reportedly the strongest voice pushing for tuition-free community college for all. This didn't bear fruit (due to Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema), but that is true of a lot of the Democratic agenda. But the effort showed that she's already assumed a role in educational politics. Perhaps she could even talk her husband into finally forgiving $10,000 of student debt as well -- another issue that has the potential to motivate a segment of voters that has been turning sour on President Biden of late.

But the real political battle this particular election year is going to be over K-12 schools. Republicans took the lesson from their surprise victory in the Virginia governor's race that expressing rage towards schools (and school boards, teachers, librarians, etc.) is good politics for them. Back then, one of the big fights was about mandatory masks, but that issue has now faded. Instead, the Republicans are creating boogeymen out of "critical race theory" (which is not actually taught in any K-12 school) and "sexually grooming children" (which is what they call any acknowledgement that relationships other than heterosexual marriages actually exist in the world). They see all of this as political gold for them.

Somebody's got to lead the pushback against all of this, or Democrats will have conceded the field without even putting up a fight. Luckily, the public is already squarely on the Democratic side in the battle. All that's needed now is for someone to jump into the fray and start making the case for not banning books, for teaching schoolchildren the truth about race and history, and for realizing that the reality of sexual and parental relationships have changed dramatically since the 1950s. I nominate First Lady Dr. Jill Biden for the task, because I don't think there's anyone more qualified to step into the role.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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76 Comments on “Dr. Jill Biden's Chance To Lead”

  1. [1] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @cw,

    May i humbly purpose a bit of what that counter-narrative may contain? Get politicians to stop telling teachers how to teach! Most of us have a pretty good idea. Yet somehow the past thirty years or so have seen every half-baked "reform" with a billionaire and a catchphrase get dumped whole cloth in the classroom without adequate research beforehand on how it will impact children and schools.

  2. [2] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Whoops, purpose=propose

  3. [3] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    you're cherry-picking isolated facts and making a claim that isn't even supported by that limited sample. the full data set is here:

    Actually, it's you who are cherry picking stats and process and parameters..

    I made a simple claim...

    Crime in NYC has risen every year for the past 3 years.

    I gave you FACTS to support the claim..

    Then you and Bashi (as ya'all are wont to do) go to extremes and nitpicks to protect yer precious Democrats.

    But it's all for naught..

    The facts don't lie...

    Crime in NYC has risen every year for the past 3 years..

    When you add the FACTS that it has risen every year for the past 3 years in practically ALL Democrat run big cities, it paints a damning picture of Democrat governance...

    I get it.. You don't like the facts.. But that doesn't make them any less factual..

  4. [4] 
    Michale wrote:

    Get politicians to stop telling teachers how to teach! Most of us have a pretty good idea.

    One would never think that by some of the crap that teachers want to teach.. :^/

    The 1619 Project racist 'equity' bullshit and sex ed/gender bending for kindergartners comes to mind. :^/

    Maybe teachers should take their political agendas out of their teaching and then politicians wouldn't have to step in...

    Just another idea, eh? :D

  5. [5] 
    Michale wrote:

    Border Agents Vindicated!
    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/chris-queen/2022/04/14/border-agents-accused-of-whipping-illegals-cleared-never-forget-the-biden-administrations-lies-about-them-n1589802

    What IS it about Democrats that they have to LIE and slander good hard working Border Patrol to push their Cop Hate agenda???

    Anyone???

  6. [6] 
    Michale wrote:

    Violent crime is up all over the country.. This is fact..

    America Is Having a Violence Wave, Not a Crime Wave
    As violent crime rose in 2020, property crime continued a years-long decline.

    A historic rise in homicides in 2020—and continued bloodshed in 2021—has incited fears that after years of plummeting crime rates, the U.S. could be headed back to the bad old days, when a crime wave gripped the country from the 1970s to the 1990s.

    But the FBI’s “Uniform Crime Report” for 2020, released Monday, suggests something stranger: Perhaps America is in the midst of what is specifically a violence wave, not a broad crime wave. Even as violent crime rose, led by significant jumps in murders and aggravated assaults, property crime continued a years-long decline.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/america-having-violence-wave-not-crime-wave/620234/?utm_source=msn

    This is due to the Democrat Party DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies..

    Ya'all can nit pick the details all ya'all want.. Argue the definition of 'is' until the cows come home..

    But NONE of that changes the FACTS..

    Crime is rising.. And Democrats are to blame..

    It's THAT simple..

  7. [7] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is due to the Democrat Party DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies..

    Of course there are those who will say, "Democrats don't REALLY mean 'DEFUND' the police..."

    "To that, I say HA!! And NO.."
    -Ralph, WRECK IT RALPH

    When Democrats say DEFUND THE POLICE they mean *DEFUND* the police..

    Don't believe me??

    Let's hear from Democrats on that issue..

    Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police
    Because reform won’t happen.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

    So, the claim that Democrats don't REALLY mean DEFUND THE POLICE is a dog that just won't hunt..

    It's a nonsensical claim unsupported by ANY facts what so ever..

    It's SPIN... Nothing more..

  8. [8] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Actually, it's you who are cherry picking stats and process and parameters..

    Not the case. I'm looking at all the available data, not some arbitrary segment. I can't speak for any other city, but in nyc the three year trends don't appear to fit any pattern that would indicate a sudden or unexpected rise, just typical variation.

  9. [9] 
    Michale wrote:

    You are looking at decades of data...

    I am talking about the last 3 years..

    And it's a fact that the crime has risen in NYC the last 3 years..

    Murders are up.. Gun violence is up..

    The facts are irrefutable..

  10. [10] 
    Michale wrote:

    Just last month, Issues & Insights reported a poll it conducted with TIPP, the most accurate predictor of the last five presidential elections, regarding people’s feelings about COVID. The survey found 65% of Americans think COVID policy in the United States is “driven by politics,” with only 21% believing it’s “driven by science.”

    COVID protocols were NEVER about actual science..

    If they were, then it would be utterly ridiculous and contemptuous to force mask and lockdown mandates for a virus that had a 96%+ survival rate...

    COVID was ALWAYS about politics... A Democrat political agenda to steal an election and destroy US democracy..

  11. [11] 
    Michale wrote:

    The establishment doesn’t want free speech because if Americans can talk honestly about what elites are doing, people will understand just how rotten the establishment has become and will want to do something about it.

    That can’t be allowed, obviously. If democracy dies in darkness, it won’t be an accident. It will be murder.
    https://nypost.com/2022/04/14/the-establishments-orwellian-line-on-elon-musks-twitter-crusade/

    That's ya'all's Democrat Party.. :^/

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are running scared.. :D

    Can Elon Musk be stopped from taking over Twitter?
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/tech/elon-musk-twitter-offer-whats-next/index.html

    Democrat dictators lording over who can speak and who can not is coming to an end... :D

    About time! :D

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    These are spectacularly low [approval] numbers. To really get down to it, only a third being favorable and in the 20s on independents, of course makes [Biden's] re-election a virtual impossibility. The administration has got to pivot or this is going to be a tornado of a midterms if these numbers continue to hold up. And frankly, they’ve had month after month here to do something to turn around on inflation, on immigration, on Ukraine, on crime. And they just haven’t done it. They have done small little incremental changes. They need big changes to change some big numbers.
    -Democrat Strategist Mark Penn

    Democrats are toast! :D

    They simply CANNOT govern competently..

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    Justice will be served and the battle will rage
    This big dog will fight when you rattle his cage
    And you'll be sorry that you messed with
    The U.S. of A.
    'Cause we'll put a boot in your ass
    It's the American way

    Hey uncle sam put your name at the top of his list
    And the Statue of Liberty started shakin' her fist
    And the eagle will fly it's gonna be hell
    When you hear mother freedom start ringin' her bell
    And it feels like the whole wide world is raining down on you
    Brought to you courtesy of the red white and blue

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc&list=RDGMEMYQNnkCeucvXPZmorerFbHg&index=4

    :D

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Part of my disappointment is that I can’t see it first-hand like I have in other places. They will not let me, understandably I guess, cross the border and take a look at what’s going on in Ukraine."
    -Joe Biden

    Words of a man who is NOT in charge...

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    Maybe we need to open a bunch of Re-education Centers.

    Yea.. THAT'S a good idea.. :^/

    Right up there with cutting Military by half..

    Democrats = 1984

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    Cutting military spending in half only cuts the half that is not spent on defense.

    Example....????

  18. [18] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Ah, the headlining piece is about Dr. Jill Biden and the possibility of her stepping into the role of leading, er, herding Democrats on the education file.

    Why all the extraneous comments?

  19. [19] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Excellent idea, CW!

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why all the extraneous comments?

    Unless we're talking about Jill Biden taking over for Joe Biden, it's useless to talk about it...

    Besides, my facts on Left Wing teachers is clear..

    They need to take their ideology OUT of their teaching or they need to find new jobs that DON'T include indoctrinating and grooming America's children..

    Can't make it any plainer than that...

  21. [21] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Besides, my facts on Left Wing teachers is clear..

    That you don't have any?

    They need to take their ideology OUT of their teaching or they need to find new jobs that DON'T include indoctrinating and grooming America's children..

    Afraid they are infringing on the churches domain?

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    Afraid they are infringing on the churches domain?

    Church is church and school is school..

    Attending church is voluntary.. Attending school is not..

    I notice you didn't argue the FACT that Left Wing teachers ARE indoctrinating and grooming young children..

    I accept your concession..

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Look at Bashi!! He is posting extraneous comments!! :D

    hehehe

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:


    Same example previously provided.

    Yea.. That's always the claim.. And yet, you Democrats NEVER do.. :D

    And we're supposed to accept Nader's recommendations on Defense Spending??

    What branch(s) of the military did he serve in??? :^/

    Oh, that's right.. He was a cook in the Army.. :^/

    All service is honorable, but being a cook doesn't make one an expert on military spending..

    You need someone who has been MI, OSI, SPI, LEO and FSO for that... :D

  25. [25] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Attending church is voluntary.. Attending school is not..

    Home school? parochial?

    I notice you didn't argue the FACT that Left Wing teachers ARE indoctrinating and grooming young children..

    Bullshit. I said you have no facts. I'm still waiting for your example of "grooming" of 4-6 year olds in Florida. 'Cause I have read plenty of examples of the clergy grooming kids, some even in the 4-6 age range...

  26. [26] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Oh, that's right.. He was a cook in the Army.. :^/

    And you have admitted to being a knuckle dragging grunt for your supposed service. Why should we take you seriously?

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    Home school? parochial?

    Voluntary... Voluntary...

    I said you have no facts.

    Yes, that's what you always say.. Yet you are never specific about which facts you dispute.. Which means you have no facts of your own to support your claim..

    Whereas I *ALWAYS* have facts... And POST those facts.. Much to the chagrin of Weigantians who claim I post TOO MANY facts.. :D

    'Cause I have read plenty of examples of the clergy grooming kids, some even in the 4-6 age range...

    So.. NOW you claim that since scumbag clergy grooms kids, it's OK for your Democrats to groom kids???

    THAT is the hill you want to die on??

    Figures.. :^/

    I'm still waiting for your example of "grooming" of 4-6 year olds in Florida.

    Opposing Florida's Anti-Grooming law is an example of Democrats wanting to groom 4 5 and 6 yr olds...

    Check and MATE.. :D

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    And you have admitted to being a knuckle dragging grunt for your supposed service. Why should we take you seriously?

    You need someone who has been MI, OSI, SPI, LEO and FSO for that... :D

    "Uh... That would be me..."
    -Beach Jock, BEDAZZLED

    I'll compare my military service in the USAF and the US Army during Desert Storm to yours any day of the week and twice on Sunday..

    Oh wait.. You don't HAVE any military service...

    Sucks to be u... :D

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    Russia warns US about continuing to send weapons to Ukraine, threatens 'consequences''ADDING FUEL' TO WAR
    Russia warns US about continuing to send weapons to Ukraine, threatens 'consequences'

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-warns-us-unpredictable-consequences-latest-arms-shipment-to-ukraine

    Liz...

    What's yer thoughts about Biden is simply prolonging the inevitable by arming Ukraine with just enough arms to maintain the status quo, but not enough to actually win the war???

    Anyone seeing the parallels between this and Star Trek A PRIVATE LITTLE WAR???

  30. [30] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Damn all extraneous comments! :)

  31. [31] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Whereas I *ALWAYS* have facts...

    No. You say you have facts then link to an opinion piece...

    So.. NOW you claim that since scumbag clergy grooms kids, it's OK for your Democrats to groom kids???

    No. I'm saying get your own house in order before making up boogiemen...

    Check and MATE.. :D

    Yup, you checkmated yourself alright.

  32. [32] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    I think I've already condemned Biden's, ah, handling of this ... from the get-go.

  33. [33] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Nothing has changed in my thinking.

    THe West likes war and wishes it to continue or, so it seems. ;)

  34. [34] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    I'll compare my military service in the USAF and the US Army during Desert Storm to yours any day of the week and twice on Sunday..

    Your appeal to authority is weak and feeble...

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Your appeal to authority is weak and feeble...

    Says someone who has never served and therefore has no training, expertise or education to make such a claim and be believed.. :D

  36. [36] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It could have been prevented. Now, it's being prolonged. Can't make it any plainer than that.

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz

    I think I've already condemned Biden's, ah, handling of this ... from the get-go.

    Just curious if you still are against Biden's actions..

    I see you are...

    We are of a single mind on this..

    Biden could have stopped this before it started.. But his handlers WANTED this war..

    They thought it would boost his approval ratings..

    They failed to heed Odumbo's advice..

    "Never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to fuck things up.."

    We're living that now... :^/

  38. [38] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Says someone who has never served and therefore has no training, expertise or education to make such a claim and be believed.. :D

    Yup, weak and feeble. Your appeal to authority is obviously to defect that you don't know as much as you pretend...

  39. [39] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Biden could have stopped this before it started.. But his handlers WANTED this war..

    And your pal Putin had nothing to do with it?

  40. [40] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    [41] Deflect.

  41. [41] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    No one is handling Biden. That is something that has never been possible. It has what has endeared Biden to me and, well, not. Heh.

  42. [42] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    No one is handling Biden. That is something that has never been possible. It's what has endeared Biden to me and, well, not. Heh.

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nothing has changed in my thinking.

    THe West likes war and wishes it to continue or, so it seems. ;)

    Minor nit pick..

    DEMOCRATs like war..

    Under President Trump, there were no new conflicts..

    I am not opposed to war on philosophical grounds...

    "Sometimes ya gotta fight when yer a man.."
    -Kenny Rogers

    But allowing a war to start JUST to boost approval of an incompetent and dementia-ridden POTUS???

    "That's no bueno..."
    -Agent J, MEN IN BLACK III

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    No one is handling Biden. That is something that has never been possible.

    The FACTS prove that wrong..

    "We're not going to allow President Biden to visit Ukraine.."
    -Jen Saki

    Biden is being handled... That's documented fact..

  45. [45] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    It will be interesting to see how the loss of the Moskva will impact the war. That was an unreplaceable asset that makes sea operations quite a bit more dangerous for Russia and air operations a bit safer for the Ukrainians.

  46. [46] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Bashi,

    And your pal Putin had nothing to do with it?

    Most of us are able to hold two or more thoughts in our minds ... at the same time, even. Ahem.

  47. [47] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Biden is being handled... That's documented fact..

    Oh great another "documented fact" with no documents...

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    Did I say dementia ridden??

    Moment a confused looking Biden sticks out his hand and appears to shake thin air after falsely claiming in speech that he had also been a 'full professor' at UPenn for four years

    President Biden looked lost again Thursday after finishing a speech on the nation's ongoing supply chain crisis, when he turned around and stuck his hand out as if to shake hands - while no one else was on-stage

    The 79-year-old president claimed before the handshake fiasco that he had served as a 'full professor' at the University of Pennsylvania despite never teaching a class at the school

    Immediately after ending the speech with the signoff 'God bless you all,' footage shows Biden turning to his right and seemingly saying something to the empty space behind him before miming a handshake

    After realizing there was no one to shake hands with, Biden stopped, looked around for a moment and then walked off the stage

    Last week, Biden looked disoriented during an event that saw former President Barack Obama visit the White House for the first time since leaving office.

    Cruz, R-Texas, quoted the clip and added a wide-eyed emoji
    Biden told the crowd that 70 percent of U.S. inflation could be blamed on Russian Leader Vladimir Putin

    Biden also claimed that he used to be a 'full professor' at the University of Pennsylvania

    The president was named Benjamin Franklin Presidential Practice Professor at Penn in 2017

    He collected nearly a million dollars from the school over three years for giving about a dozen public appearances
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10720467/Anyone-Biden-sticks-hand-appears-shake-air.html

    Democrats need to face reality...

    Biden needs to be 25th'ed...

  49. [49] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Stop the asinine extraneous comments, Michale.

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh great another "documented fact" with no documents...

    Wow.. Yer asking for paper documents in a blog??

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHA

    Desperation, thy name is Bashi.. :D

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    Stop the asinine extraneous comments, Michale.

    I was under the impression that FACTUAL and DOCUMENTED extraneous comments were acceptable..

    NO?? :D

  52. [52] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Most of us are able to hold two or more thoughts in our minds ... at the same time, even. Ahem.

    Then try it sometime. I have yet to see any convincing argument that stopping this war was ever a possibility beyond handing Ukraine to Putin on a silver platter. The Trump doctrine, so to speak...

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    I only ask because *ALL* of my extraneous comments are factual and documented..

    So, what's the beef?? :D

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    Then try it sometime. I have yet to see any convincing argument that stopping this war was ever a possibility beyond handing Ukraine to Putin on a silver platter.

    That's because you are a Party slave and can't see past your lips licking Biden's ass... :D

    It's well documented both BEFORE and AFTER the start of the war that Putin did NOT want to face NATO...

    All Biden had to do was put troops in harms way (it's kinda in the job description) and Putin never would have invaded..

    Even if Putin DID invade, then the "war" would have been short and Putin would have already been vanquished..

    Biden frak'ed it all up from the start..

  55. [55] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    It's well documented both BEFORE and AFTER the start of the war that Putin did NOT want to face NATO...

    And how would putting troops in Ukraine be an attack on NATO? Article 5 & 6 are quite specific. It would be an attack on the US alone, and very well might have started WWIII.

  56. [56] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    That's because you are a Party slave and can't see past your lips licking Biden's ass... :D

    And yet I am not the one spewing their parties propaganda verbatim. You might check where your lips are before accusing others...

  57. [57] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Bashi,

    Get real.

    Biden and NATO took Ukraines admission to NATO off the negotiating table, in no uncertain terms. Consequently, they made sure we'd never find out if Ukraine agreeing to being neutral and not a member of NATO would have stopped Putin from waging war.

    That is on Team Biden and NATO, no matter how you slice it.

    Do I really have to Lizsplain this, again!? :)

  58. [58] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    We are of a single mind on this..Biden could have stopped this before it started.. But his handlers WANTED this war..They thought it would boost his approval ratings..

    You are confused!

  59. [59] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Don,

    you hit the nail on the head with that one...

  60. [60] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Biden and NATO took Ukraines admission to NATO off the negotiating table, in no uncertain terms.

    And they were right to do so. Either a country has the right to self determine their future or they are not much of a country. Turning Ukraine in to a Russian vassal state in order to avoid bloodshed does not help the Ukrainians long term, IMO.

    I also don't trust the Russian propaganda machine. Look at the messaging of the sinking of the Moskva as a recent example. It was not a Neptune missile (that the Ukrainian built themselves) but a fire that blew up ammunition but at the same time it's NATO's fault and Ukraine will pay for it. Uh...What?

    Russia can not be trusted. In negotiations, in media reports, anywhere...

  61. [61] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Democrats need to face reality...
    That Republicans just make stuff up...

  62. [62] 
    Michale wrote:

    And how would putting troops in Ukraine be an attack on NATO? Article 5 & 6 are quite specific. It would be an attack on the US alone,

    An attack on one NATO member is an attack on ALL NATO members...

    and very well might have started WWIII.

    More likely it would have prevented Putin from entering Ukraine..

    "RISK... Is Our Business.."
    -Captain James T Kirk Memoir

    But Biden's handlers wanted a war where Biden could shine..

    Little did they realize that the Butcher Of Bagram CAN'T shine.. He has dementia...

  63. [63] 
    Michale wrote:

    you hit the nail on the head with that one...

    Translation:

    You are saying what I want to hear so NOW yer my BFF

    :D

    Bashi, yer so transparent.. :D

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    That is on Team Biden and NATO, no matter how you slice it.

    Yep.. yep... yep...

    Bashi can't tear his lips from Biden's/Democrats arse to see the reality..

  65. [65] 
    Michale wrote:

    But I still luv 'im anyways.. :D

  66. [66] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are running scared!! :D

    Gatekeepers Very Afraid That Elon Musk Will Remove the Gates From Twitter

    $43 billion takeover bid reveals knowledge-class anxieties over free expression
    https://reason.com/2022/04/14/gatekeepers-very-afraid-that-elon-musk-will-remove-the-gates-from-twitter/

    Given all the calls from people to ban me from Weigantia, the TWIT/Musk saga is especially relevant here...

    What IS it about Democrats that they are so afraid of opposing viewpoints and FACTS that don't fit their agenda???

  67. [67] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    An attack on one NATO member is an attack on ALL NATO members...

    That's not what article 6 spells out. You are missing a word...

    Given all the calls from people to ban me from Weigantia, the TWIT/Musk saga is especially relevant here...

    No, it's not. Those calls have nothing to do with your opinion and everything to do with the shear volume and repetition of your posts. It's the spam not the content. Same with Don...

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    Those calls have nothing to do with your opinion and everything to do with the shear volume and repetition of your posts. It's the spam not the content.

    There are absolutely NO FACTS to support that claim..

    There are plenty of facts to support the opposite claim.. When my comments are politically acceptable, there is NOT A SINGLE WORD said about the proclivity...

    Face reality, Bash..

    Ya'all simply don't like the content because it upsets yer Democrat apple cart...

  69. [69] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    There are absolutely NO FACTS to support that claim..

    Yawn...

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    Once again.. Your concession is accepted.. :D

  71. [71] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Peanuts, popcorn or beer?

  72. [72] 
    Michale wrote:

    "Are you from outer space?"
    "No.. I'm from Chile... I just work in outer space"

    -STAR TREK PICARD

    :D

    LOVE the easter eggs.. :D

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    Peanuts, popcorn or beer?

    If you have to ask, yer obliviously incapable of understanding the answer.. :D

  74. [74] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Ah! Well, I was close. I mean I knew outer space was going to come into it sooner or later.
    Dr. Gillian Taylor - star trek IV: the journey home

  75. [75] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i wonder if catherine hicks (i had to look her up, but she's apparently still working) has done any recent star trek cameos...

  76. [76] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    also, there was apparently a completely fake report that she had died. so when we say reports of her death have been greatly exaggerated, it's not even a joke!

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