:D

TRANSLATION: You slapped me down big time. That was a stroke of genius using my own words against me and forcing me to argue with myself.. I stand in awe of your superiority... :D

Your cut-and-paste standard bullshit argument isn't exactly a big secret around here. *LOL* :)

I couldn't have said it better myself. Oh, right... that's exactly what I did say, and you copied what I said verbatim.

See how monotonous that can be, and I only did it for a few hours whereas you go on and on... the same old cut-and-paste repetition... complete with the same misspellings... as if they are new and exciting when they're just tedium ad nauseam. :)

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent._. :)

Your cut-and-paste standard bullshit argument isn't exactly a big secret around here. *LOL* :)

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent._. :)

BIAS ALERT: Daily Beast writer calls Sarah Huckabee Sanders a 'butch queen'
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/07/24/bias-alert-daily-beast-writer-calls-sarah-huckabee-sanders-butch-queen.html

So, sexism and misogyny is perfectly acceptable when the Left directs them at Right Wing women..

Yea.. NO double standards there, eh? :^/

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent..... :)

Your cut-and-paste standard bullshit argument isn't exactly a big secret around here. *LOL* :)

That's funny coming from someone who is spamming the forum with the exact same bullshit... :D

Once again, Victoria.. You get slammed to the ground by your better... :D

Just last week you were attacking me for saying the same thing over and over...

Now it's YOU who is doing EXACTLY what you accused me of...

Which is pretty much what you are all about, Victoria...

Another lie, courtesy of M.L.B. :D

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent... :)

Ahhhh OK... So.. NO truce...

Apologies, people.. I tried, but obviously Victoria/Veronica prefers a flame war cesspool...

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.. :)

Michale

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. :)

It just occurred to me.. This might be your way of insultingly accepting the truce I offer'ed

I am going to take it that way, that this as your acceptance of the offered truce, and I will now act accordingly...

I urge you, for the sake of ALL who inhabit this forum..... Don't break it again...

This is for you and those who swear by the CBO predictions..

At least ya'all swear by them when they say what ya'all want to hear... :D

Reps. Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan: The truth behind the CBO
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/reps-mark-meadows-and-jim-jordan-the-truth-behind-the-cbo/article/2629287

I'll sum it up for ya..

WRONG... WRONG.... WRONG.... IMPRESSIVELY WRONG...

The CBO has about the same track record of being WRONG that the IPCC has....

What IS it with you Left Wingers that ya'all always double down on stoopid???

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. :)

Uh yuk... uh yuk... uh yuk.... :^/

So yer back to 3rd grade debate tactics..

Allow me to translate your comment..

I got caught in a lie again
-Victoria

Fact the facts, Veronica

You have lurched from one lie to the next and now that I have PROVEN it is you who starts all the name calling and Russ has confirmed it...

NOW yer gonna run away again..

Well, good.. Maybe Weigantians can have some respite from you intelligence-lacking flame wars...

Don't let the door hit ya on your fat ass on the way out... :D

Yup, yup, yup, yup...

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. :)

This is what ya'all don't get about President Trump..

Ya'all predict horrible results from certain actions, yet President Trump always comes thru in the end..

When President Trump fired Comey, ya'all went on a TRUMP IS TOAST bender..

"THIS will end Trump's presidency" was the common refrain...

President Trump has absolutely NO REASON to keep Mueller on and EVERY REASON to fire him... And to add sauce for the goose, the LAW is on President Trump's side, as there is a clear and well-defined conflict of interest with Mueller...

One of our new Jeeps above or afore commented that firing Mueller would bring about President Trump's Armageddon... I told that person how would that be ANY different than ALL of the other previous "Armageddons" that President Trump has faced and came to nothing???

If every time President Trump farts is a MAJOR political catastrophe in the eyes of Dumbocrats everywhere....????

Well, you can understand how normal patriotic Americans will just roll their eyes when the Dumbocrats go all hysterical ape-shit crazy over President Trump's latest actions...

Mueller will be fired... You might as well accept this as fact...

Now pardon me while I go make up lots and lots of popcorn.. :D

Want to see the entirety of the Left Wingery's heads explode???

Have President Trump fire AG Sessions, replace him with AG Cruz as a recess appointment and then have AG Cruz fire Mueller...

Then grab some popcorn and let the head-exploding show begin!!! :D

Yes, it did...

NONE of which is name-calling, which is what we are talking about...

"DDDOOOOYYYYYYYYY"
-Vanillope Von Schweetz, WRECK-IT RALPH

You are WAY out-classed here, Victoria..

Don't you have a meeting to run off to.... :D

If you do not recall it, no worries; i am not gonna spend the afternoon searching for something that isn't going to matter even if found.

It will matter CONSIDERABLY...

First of all, it's not really consistent with this issue... I was referring to name-calling each other, not political figures... I have given up hope of ya'all actually acting like adults when it comes to people outside of Weigantia...

Asking ya'all to lose "Orange Fascist" or "ADD President" or "Benedict Donald" or other such childish and immature name-callings is simply beyond my capability.. :D

Having said that, I honestly don't recall where I had an agreement with ya'all to stop the name-calling of political leaders and I broke that agreement..

So, let me put on my Genie hat... :D

If you can find that instance where I started name-calling Obama et al first, rather than just responding to another Weigantian's name-calling of Trump et al, I will grant you one wish...

See above where you lost your shit for days and insinuated the entire group were condoning terrorism against the United States.

How EXACTLY is that name-calling, moron!??

You agreed with me to end the name bashing of Obama and others and just call them by their names, but went back to it the next day claiming that someone else had started it. The agreement had been with me, not the entire world, but it was what it was.

Cite???

So, reports from US intelligence agencies, reports from states of russian intrusion into state voter databases, and many multiple suspicious contacts between the Trump campaign and actual Russian spies, followed by omissions, lies and contradictory statements by those same folks doesn't make you curious enough to even ask some follow-up questions?

when none was supplied, we THEN offered some relevant context

Rather, in the abscence of hard evidence, and rather than ask the sorts of questions that would develop hard evidence, the left provided their ready-made answer: it's obviously a neoliberal corporatist plot engineered in advance by secretly non-progressive democrats. What else could it be?

to dampen down the rabidity that was distracting from every other issue

i.e., to minimize a story that the far left finds inconvenient.

Including the massive failure of Democratic policies in motivating sufficient voter enthusiasm to win at all levels.

And when have far left policies won votes 'at all levels'? In my lifetime. Not polls, but elected seats.

In fact, compared to leftist candidates who have gotten the Democratic nomination in the past (Walter Mondale or George McGovern, for instance) Democrats did pretty well this year, despite the narrow loss at the top of the ticket. Hillary won the popular vote. In the states that put Trump over the top, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, she lost by just 0.02% - far less than the number of democrats who defected to Jill Stein in an ultimately self-defeating fit of pique. Despite all the hoopla about a 'republican surge', Trump's final vote totals were actually about the same as Romney's.

Democrats still hold the statehouses in the states with the largest populations, and they pretty much own the east and west coasts. They're down by just three in the Senate, and are within striking distance of taking back the house.

In fact, save for the fact that Trump is doing nothing to bolster election cyber-security, and is actively encouraging voter suppression efforts, I feel fairly good about the prospect of Democrats regaining the seats they've lost, and then some, in 2018 and 2020.

The neoliberal attacks on FDR Democrats and the policies we support are spectacularly unimaginative, and we aren't the "far left".

FDR Democrats? Nice attempt at branding, but no. The politics of America has changed wholesale since the 1930's. You can't begin to compare the politics of my grandfather (who was an actual FDR Democrat) to those of today. That was a time when gangsters ran the unions, and the Church dictated Hollywood movie content. That was a time when racial integration hadn't yet begun, women were second class citizens by law, and child marriage was legal in most states. So no, today's Russia-coddling socialists aren't even comparable to my father's Russia-coddling socialists. Apples and mangos.

As far as the main issues that drive my activism, there really aren't major differences between a corrupt corporatist warmonger like Hillary and your typical Republican.

But I think you're deceiving yourself about the questionnaire being the main reason the majority of LEO's supported Trump.

His public embrace of the worst aspects of the culture wars was a rather stark difference that many cheered on.
And those attitudes remain prevalent though mostly publicly suppressed in a huge segment of our society... from bakers to bankers... and above and below.

Dogs don't know about political and economic corruption or geopolitics, but they will pick up on cultural biases. Since that was the topic under discussion, I thought it was relevant.

But anyway, my "bad" experience was with the K9 handler and his buddies who called him in, not with the dog.
And it was what I consider a funny story. I think you will too. So, whenever you're ready for it...

A

And it did...

Yes, it did... in the same way as everyone here knows it ends. It was a mere few days later around mid June, you were on a tear regarding the shooting at baseball practice where you reamed out several posters and the entire group here... if not the most asinine I have seen you, pretty darn close.

You were being your typical "prick" (your term) self and blaming Lefties for starting a "shooting war" and talking the same bullshit you do to this group on a frequent basis about violence between Right and Left:

[35] ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

Calling everyone else out for turning a tragedy into a partisan blame game while doing it yourself; my God that is just so pathetic!

Very well said by Russ... yet "prick" that you know you are, you still continued your tirade against the entire group... accusing them of encouraging an act of terrorism against the United States.

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/06/14/condemning-terrorism/#comment-102825

[38] nypoet22 wrote:

JL

As I said, and the FACTS bear out..

But I *ALWAYS* finish them... :D

In order to be a good LIAR, you have to have a good memory... YOU DON'T. You had a few good days after you apologized for being a "prick," and then you went on a rant against the entire group for several days with your standard operational bullshit.

Run along now, my little bitch....

Oh, no. Your ideological shortcomings are showing again; however, you're so pathetically ignorant that you don't even realize that in the circles I run, being referred to as a "bitch" is a high compliment indeed. It means you're winning while some sorry piece of shit like you is whining and crying on a regular basis because you got to him and made him dance... so much so that he dances on cue and whines on a regular basis about that time you bitch slapped him hard... so hard that he either can't or won't shut up about it because he got butt hurt and can't get over it. Ignorant people are so easy to con... such easy marks... because ignorant fools are so predictable; you simply validate their worldview and they'll believe the dumbest shit. Everyone here knows exactly how you are. You're fooling no one here... not even you:

I would like to say that it won't happen again, but knowing me as I do, I am sure it will.. :D

But hay... I am a fair guy..

If you can find ANY instance where I started the name calling against another Weigantian rather than simply responding to their name-calling........

See above where you lost your shit for days and insinuated the entire group were condoning terrorism against the United States. It never crossed your tiny mind when it would be a good time to shut your big mouth.

"I'm all ears.."

No, you're not "all ears"... you're all mouth without a brain big enough to know when to shut it. *LOL* :)

Great post! I fear that your conclusions are all going to be bull's eyes. One good thing about Trump winning is that all of those "don't worry, it would never happen"-type Constitutional questions will no longer be ignored. Let's just hope we have a chance to fix the problems.

It looks like someone is getting a head start on groveling for a pardon! Could it possibly mean that he knows something is about to drop and he just wants to be first in line???

You agreed with me to end the name bashing of Obama and others and just call them by their names, but went back to it the next day claiming that someone else had started it. The agreement had been with me, not the entire world, but it was what it was.

If you do not recall it, no worries; i am not gonna spend the afternoon searching for something that isn't going to matter even if found.

But hay... I am a fair guy..

If you can find ANY instance where I started the name calling against another Weigantian rather than simply responding to their name-calling........

"I'm all ears.."
-Ross Perot, 1992 Presidential Debate

:D

ONLY after someone instigates it..

You always claim that everyone else starts it, but on multiple occasions where we were supposed to end with the name calling on here, it was you that broke the truce.

I already proved that it was Victoria who broke the truce..

Do you have ANY facts to support your claim??

No, you do not...

If things truly are a Flame War cesspool around here, then kick would be the lit match;

We completely agree...

Veronica always starts it...

Do you LIKE things to be a Flame War cesspool around here???

Wow! She has truly gotten to you! Michale, you are the name caller here. You always claim that everyone else starts it, but on multiple occasions where we were supposed to end with the name calling on here, it was you that broke the truce. And you go above and beyond when you do!

If things truly are a Flame War cesspool around here, then kick would be the lit match; while you, my friend, are the methane-producing-matter that blows up.

Or is it that he doesn't really want Clinton investigated because he knows she did nothing wrong and it will only make him look worse when he is shown to have broken the law?

But here is the weirdest thing about that post: if he truly wanted her investigated, then all he would need to do was order it done. He need only instruct them to investigate her. Does he still not know what his job is?

Loved it!

Why do you encourage the bitch??

Do you LIKE things to be a Flame War cesspool around here???

In my mind, the moment after you hit "submit comment" you held out your microphone, dropped it, and walked off stage while the room applauded.

Loved it!

I hope you can understand that the reports that suggest that the majority of LEO's in the country supported Trump, and that they are thus likely to hold or at least be more tolerant of a mindset that isn't physically repulsed by the biases Trump exhibits leads me to question your beliefs.

Given your opinion of Hillary Clinton, I would not think that your view of police would change much if it was reported most had voted for her.

Do you know the biggest reason that the Fraternal Order of Police backed Trump over Hillary? Trump's campaign was the only one to respond to their questionnaire they asked both candidates to answer for them to base their decision on. Seriously, the answers he gave were often horrible, but they were better than being ignored. Clinton's campaign has no one to blame for losing the FOP's support but themselves.

I am sorry that you had a bad experience with a K-9 unit. It is only natural that how you view that event would effect your view of them. I hope it was a narcotics unit and not a generalist K-9 unit, because those are the biters and that would definitely make for a bad day!

HA!!

Straight from the lips of Chuck Schumer...

NOT-45 was the reason that NOT-45 lost...

It's THAT simple.....

"For one thing, every criticism of Putin is answered by a chorus of you-tooism"

No, actually.
We asked to see the evidence of the meddling first, and when none was supplied, we THEN offered some relevant context to attempt to dampen down the rabidity that was distracting from every other issue including the massive failure of Democratic policies in motivating sufficient voter enthusiasm to win at all levels.
It is naïve to believe known liars without evidence, and prudent to learn from history.

"the tendency of the left to criticize pragmatic progressives, like Brown and Obama, for supporting incremental progressivism"

When more is necessary and possible, it is foolish to accept less and make up excuses for it.

"immune to the eye-rolling that commences every time you accuse progressives like Brown of being pro-pollution, or Obama of being pro-war"

You are spinning.
Badly.
A watered down version of a Republicans plan that is even less effective is in fact allowing more pollution... and it's not "incrementally progressive".
Only the gullible or complicit would insist otherwise.

Obama did bomb 7 predominantly Muslim countries, increase military spending dramatically, expand the drone wars, increase the number of foreign military bases, initiate a program to spend a trillion dollars on new nuclear weapons that can never be used, and embrace policies that have led to more military conflicts and will lead to still more.
That is pro-war, and it's not "incrementally progressive".
Only the gullible or complicit would insist otherwise.

I can't help but think you are describing yourself and your collaborators with the "indulgently immune to the eye rolling" stuff which everybody aware of the above has been sending your way.

The neoliberal attacks on FDR Democrats and the policies we support are spectacularly unimaginative, and we aren't the "far left".

And I didn't say anything in 168 that I haven't said many times before. If you're going to babble on like that, at least pay attention and get things right.

A

I know, right!!?? That's just REALLY low!!!! :D

Whoops. Meant post 168. Sorry, M. Didn't mean to accuse you of improving. ;)

Well... Except for the fact that comment #165 is MY comment.. :D

Sure it is. But the far left apparently have their own curious blind spots which have become relevant in the current debate. For one thing, every criticism of Putin is answered by a chorus of you-tooism, as if the fact that we have had bad actors on our side of the pond should prevent us from ever criticizing any other countries' bad acts. Trump himself did this when an interviewer pointed out the fact that Putin has had political rivals killed. "There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers," Trump said. "Well, you think our country is so innocent?"

Well no, but if you want to compare Human Rights records like dicks, we're still the stud in the room.

Which brings me to my second peeve, the tendency of the left to criticize pragmatic progressives, like Brown and Obama, for supporting incremental progressivism, rather than holding out for complete capitulation by their political opponents.

All I can think is, did you never play a game that required incremental advancement? Have you never traded down to acquire something of greater long term value?

Your compatriots are apparently either blissfully unaware of or indulgently immune to the eye-rolling that commences every time you accuse progressives like Brown of being pro-pollution, or Obama of being pro-war, while simultaneously arguing that Putin's invasion of Ukraine was 'anti-democratic' or merely a matter of protecting 'Russia's legitimate interests'.

Absolutism is never good - whether in politics, business, or even interpersonal relations, staking out a position and sticking to it even after conditions have changed is no virtue, even to the virtuous.

And President Trump is *STILL* your President.. :D

Live with it... :D

You don't understand science if you believe what you wrote.

And, no, the search was illegal as defined by the law, and the LEO squirmed when I pointed it out.

A

Yup, but you are omitting or ignoring that there were some positive aspects to the ACA that made things better for some people...

... AND that the Dems serving the corporate thugs TOO, doesn't make the Republican approach better.
Repubs want to give those corporate thugs even more, and hurt most Americans in the process.

A

The "proof" is in personal experience...

I also understand you are more sensitive to the way this is presented in the articles, and fully admit that I am less likely to pick up on such things. I think you have a valid point there.

Yes.. *WE* do... :D

I hope you can understand that the reports that suggest that the majority of LEO's in the country supported Trump, and that they are thus likely to hold or at least be more tolerant of a mindset that isn't physically repulsed by the biases Trump exhibits leads me to question your belief.

So... Because someone supports President Trump, they MUST ALL feel a certain way...

There's a word for that.. it's called BIGOTRY... :D

and it included an illegal search, so perhaps I am predisposed to such doubts because of that.

As YOU define "illegal".... :D THAT is why you are pre-disposed... :D

"You fail to acknowledge that the articles chose to state that if dogs alerted to the scent of drugs but no drugs were seized by the police, it was not considered a good alert -- completely ignoring that it could mean that only residue was found"

I wasn't able to find any research or field testing that proves that dogs actually are alerting to the scent or residue of drugs in those alerts.
You seem to be assuming that is in fact what is happening when there isn't any proof I know of that is what is happening.
I know you qualified it with "could mean", rather than does mean, and with your experience, I can understand why you would give the benefit of the doubt to the dog rather than fault the handler, but the underlying research suggests it's the latter.

If you are aware of cases in the field where they tested for residue in a scientifically valid manner in order to prove the dogs were not giving false alerts, please share it with me.

I also understand you are more sensitive to the way this is presented in the articles, and fully admit that I am less likely to pick up on such things. I think you have a valid point there.

That said, I think the conclusions in the research remain valid even though the articles failed to convey the issues properly.

"but most are great people who do take their job seriously and truly wish to serve their communities."

OK.
You are probably correct when using the term "most" in that sentence.
But I also think it's possible for LEO's to fit those criteria, and still not be as professional as Devon.

I hope you can understand that the reports that suggest that the majority of LEO's in the country supported Trump, and that they are thus likely to hold or at least be more tolerant of a mindset that isn't physically repulsed by the biases Trump exhibits leads me to question your belief.

I hope you're right, but I have serious doubts.

And, that funny story I had to tell you a while back was about my one and only experience with a K9 and his handler at an airport... and it included an illegal search, so perhaps I am predisposed to such doubts because of that.

A

The whole cap and trade bullshit is EXACTLY like TrainWreckCare...

It's SOLD as an end-all get-all progressive good thing, but it, in reality, only gives more money and power to corporate thugs and takes freedoms and money away from the middle-class...

You don't seem to realize that making excuses for failure, and claiming that good policies that are actually effective are impossible to enact is the true cynicism.

Seeing you actively sell ineffective policies as "leadership" and adopt Hillary type excuses and "purity" bullspit here when you justifiably condemned her failures is truly baffling to me. You also just justifiably criticized Biden and praised Bernie along the very same lines... which just adds to the confusion.

I know you're a good person... but you seem to have a little Jekyll and Hyde thing going on... some cognitive dissonance... and it seems to be based on wanting to believe that undeserving people are actually worthy of your support... wanting to believe their positive spin on failure.

Trying to see the good in people is a noble quality.
Wanting to believe they are actually like you is completely understandable.
But when a supposedly good Democrat supports a pharma lobbyist to run the CA Democratic party, opposes Single Payer, and then extends an even more polluter friendly cap and trade program, I think it's time to question your assumptions about them.

I hope you can one day admit that pointing out the reality in our politics and economics as a first step towards fixing the problems is not cynical... and that admitting the problem is necessary.

Condemning the people fighting for better serves the status quo that is failing us badly.

A

Here here!!!

Well said!!!

But the Dumbocrat Party is more concerned about selling Pizza!!! :D

More nominees for the most disappointing Dems award.

Connecticut Democrats, unions impose $1.5 billion in givebacks on state workers
By John Marion
24 July 2017

"On July 18, Connecticut’s State Employees Bargaining Agent Coalition (SEBAC) announced that its members had approved a concessions contract with Democratic Governor Dannel P. Malloy. SEBAC, an umbrella group for 16 public worker unions, said 85 percent of workers who voted were in favor of wage freezes, and 83 percent voted in favor of higher contributions toward health insurance and retirement.

State Democrats and union executives, pointing to an estimated $5 billion budget shortfall for the two-year period starting July 1, browbeat the 40,000 state workers into accepting the deal with the threats of mass layoffs. They also held the possible bankruptcy of the City of Hartford over the heads of workers that could result in the gutting of city worker pensions and retiree health benefits as it did in Detroit and other municipal bankruptcies.

The concessions deal agreed to by the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) and other unions will rob more than $1.5 billion over two years from state workers. The deal makes false promises that the state won’t lay off workers.

“Once again, this governor has asked us to step up and we came to the call,” Darnell Ford of SEIU local 1199 told WFSB, adding “we were asked to help and after months of negotiations we have come up with every penny sought.’”

“This was not easy,” Salvatore Luciano of AFSCME Council 4 said of foisting the deal on union members, “we hoped if we explained it, everyone would pass it.’”

The SEBAC concessions deal includes:
• No raises, except in cases of promotion, for fiscal years 2017, 2018, or 2019. A lump-sum payment of $2,000 is promised for fiscal year 2019.

• Three furlough days in the coming year.

• An increase of workers’ share of health insurance premiums to 15 percent.

• An increase in health insurance contributions for workers who retire after October 2.

• A cap on the Cost of Living Adjustment for pensions of workers retiring after July 1, 2022 and a 30-month period with no COLA for those same retirees.

• A requirement that disabled retirees apply for Social Security Disability Insurance in order to get them off of Connecticut’s books. Threatened federal attacks on entitlement programs will leave these workers between a rock and a hard place.

The unions previously agreed to concessions in 2011 in the wake of the Great Recession. Like many states, including neighboring Massachusetts, Connecticut is now seeing declines in tax revenue as workers’ wages stagnate and corporations are handed huge tax cuts.

CNBC reported this month that actual FY17 revenues were lower than budgeted in 33 US states, and that 23 states made mid-year spending cuts.

While destroying the livelihoods of state workers, Malloy, the chair of the Democratic Governors Association, has showered top corporations and financial institutions with massive tax cuts and other subsidies. GE and Aetna have kept their tax rates low by moving their corporate headquarters out of state while keeping most of their workforces in state.

Although the state is home to 19 Fortune 500 companies, in the fiscal year just ended, corporate taxes were only 5.7 percent of total Connecticut revenues; in FY16, the share was even lower, at 4.8 percent. Total corporate taxes in FY17 were approximately $800 million, or less than half what is being taken away from state workers.

Sales and Use taxes, which are regressive and which the state expanded during the 2011 crisis, brought in about five times as much as corporate taxes in FY17"

here's the whole article-

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/07/24/conn-j24.html

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Austerity for the working class, tax cuts and subsidies for the wealthy and corporations has consistently caused economic harm for the majority in America and in every country following our neoliberal class warfare around the world.

Trickle down economics has a track record of failure... and Democrats need to abandon it... end their three plus decades of catering to the wealthy few at the expense of the many.

And their supporters need to stop making excuses for their legalized corruption.

A

But it's Dumbocrat Policies...

So we agree.. :D

Didn't you have a meeting to go to??

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But why make a phone call??

That's classified.

TRANSLATION: I got caught in another lie...

That's funny. :)

"It's funny cuz it's true"
-Homer Simpson

:D

I said I had a meeting; it then got postponed

TRANSLATION: I am your little bitch...

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"California, Detroit, Chicago...

All are PERFECT examples of how Dumbocrat Policies DO NOT WORK...."

It's their policies alright.
But it's the policies of neoliberalism that both parties have embraced.
A failure of right wing corporatism.

The Dems abandoned the poor and middle class in favor of trickle down economics and deregulation as demanded by their wealthy and corporate donors... just like Republicans.

And they are continuing these policies in every blue state.
See below.

A

But why make a phone call??

That's classified.

Because you were tired of getting your ass kicked all around this forum so you figured you would get some "dirt" on me and threaten to release it if I didn't toe your line..

That's funny. :)

Then I slapped ya down like the little bitch you are and you went whining and crying into the corner to lick your wounds..

I don't "lick my wounds" because I've got really good health insurance... compliments of the United States of America for decades of service.

Didn't you say you were done??

I said I had a meeting; it then got postponed, and I'm waiting... and now he's here. I have a meeting with an even bigger LIAR than you.

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But NOT a bigger loser than you. *LOL* :)

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/06/08/the-curious-incident-during-comeys-testimony/#comment-102291

I would like to say that it won't happen again, but knowing me as I do, I am sure it will.. :D

And it did...

YOU came back with:

So you concede you're a liar and an idiot.
-Victoria
chrisweigant.com/2017/06/21/mcconnells-big-gamble/#comment-103544

..... and started everything all over again.. You couldn't even handle no name-calling and no personal attacks for 3 weeks!! You HAD to start everything all over again...

As I said, and the FACTS bear out..

I *NEVER* start these things...

But I *ALWAYS* finish them... :D

Run along now, my little bitch....

No.. The FACT is, you can't address why you researched my past to try and extort me and threaten me into changing my posting habits..

THAT is why you have a "meeting"... :D

Caught in another lie...

:D

Yes I did..

And, as usual, YOU broke the truce with your personal attacks and name-calling..

So, I responded in kind..

These are the facts..

The FACT is, I'm actually on my way out the door because I have a meeting in 15-ish minutes.

In other words, you are "done" here...

AGAIN...

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You continue to lie... :D

I have offered to end this on several occasions.. But you just can't shut up and stop telling your lies...

So all of this is on you....

Nobody here believes the bullshit above. You've had several truces with several people... myself included. You apologize for being a "prick of late" and this lasts a day or two, and then you're right back hijacking posts and doing your standard operational bullshit; you know this... In fact, everyone knows this... SSDD.
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http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/06/08/the-curious-incident-during-comeys-testimony/#comment-102291

But, I completely understand why you would think I would.. I have been quite the prick of late and I render my utmost apologies for that...

I would like to say that it won't happen again, but knowing me as I do, I am sure it will.. :D
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Just walk away, quit the personal attacks and name-calling and it will all end..

You are deluding no one but yourself... AGAIN. You don't know what a truce is; you always break them with your standard bullshit. :)

But you can't do it..

Your projection is nothing if not totally PREDICTABLE. :)

The FACT is, I'm actually on my way out the door because I have a meeting in 15-ish minutes. So I'm out anyway by no choice of my own. I'll pop in later if I can. Try to remember what a prick you know you can be and how you never actually keep your truces... and even YOU know you're not going to keep them way ahead of time. :)

I did ZERO research. I did make a phone call.

But why make a phone call??

Because you were tired of getting your ass kicked all around this forum so you figured you would get some "dirt" on me and threaten to release it if I didn't toe your line..

Then I slapped ya down like the little bitch you are and you went whining and crying into the corner to lick your wounds..

These are the facts... :D

Live with it, my little bitch.. :D

Didn't you say you were done??

Got caught in another lie, eh Veronica.. :D

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You sure spend an awful lot of commenting space trying to justify the unjustifiable..

You sure spend an awful lot of commenting space by use of single sentences versus paragraphs. If you had a decent education, you could save a whole lot of space by writing in paragraphs. :)

Oh, also, you spend a lot of time posting your own personal shit on the Internet while whining about others doing it who never did and never would, and that makes YOU a special kind of stupid.

You researched 20 years into my past, threatened to use it if I didn't change my posting habits and then got slapped down big time when I laughed in your face..

I did ZERO research. I did make a phone call. You can't even seem to keep your own bullshit straight. You posted a list of names in anger, and you weren't laughing, you were butt hurt and whining, and you're still not laughing... YOU'RE whining about it once a month as if on cue. *LOL* :)

These are the FACTS of the issue...

Note to Michale: Stupid people make lousy LIARS because they can't even keep their own bullshit straight. *LOL* :)

Yer my bitch... :D

You're your own bitch, and you should really stop doxing your family and posting your personal information on the Internet; it's the surest way on the Internet to prove to everyone that you're an ignorant fool. :)

I know you are, but what am I? You been doing this for decades and bragging about it. :)

You said you were done, my little bitch and yet here you are... :D

No wonder everyone knows you are a liar... :D

Would it surprise you to learn that I have sent Gov. Brown information on One Demand/ Voucher Vendetta/ the Hundred Dollar Party ?
If he does decide to run I will try again.
If at first you don't succeed....

That's what I like about you...

You persevere against overwhelming antagonism...

Reminds me of someone else I know.. :D

You mean, like YOU have been doing for months now... MORON.. :D

I know you are, but what am I? You been doing this for decades and bragging about it. :)

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There he blows again. ^^^ Loser admits he's lost... there's his sign! :)

American confidence is up.. American pride is up...

Patriotic Americans are no longer ashamed of their country... Ashamed of their President..

That's the facts whether you want to see it or not..

It just CHAPS yer ass that you wake up every morning and President Trump is STILL your president!! :D

"You mean, like fixing the SCOTUS?? That front??"

Also, how EXACTLY did they FIX the Supreme Court??? Again all that happened was that Obama was denied an appointment that was rightfully his to make. And Scalia was replaced with someone from exactly the same mold, which ended up changing NOTHING where the SCOTUS is concerned.

You're a word twisting moron, and it's pathetic how proud you are of your ignorant bullshit. No, idiot, the author of the article did characterize Kamala Harris as a whore; I did NOT.

Make up your mind.. You said "loose woman" before.. NOW you are saying "whore"...

And the funny thing is.. BOTH those designations are *YOUR* designations, not the author's!!! :D

And THERE it is. You know you are getting to snowflake when he starts posting this bullshit. He's a loser, and you always know when he's losing because he starts posting that.

My work here is done. :)

Yea, you keep SAYING "yer done" and yet you keep coming back with MORE lies and MORE bullshit.. :D

See ya back here real soon, my bitch.. :D

"You mean, like fixing Odumbo's screw-up of the economy?? That front??"

And WHAT EXACTLY have they fixed??? NOTHING as far as I can tell. The economy continues EXACTLY the way it did under Obama, despite anything the Republicans have or have not done.

They haven't passed ANY legislation. And Trump only halted some regulations that made it easier for companies to pollute and took away protections from workers. That's ALL.

Hardly a ringing endorsement for a booming economy. Which is still chugging along at around 2 percent growth despite anything Trump has done.

In other words, it was YOUR designation... YOUR characterization not the article's or the author's...

Which is what I said..

You're a word twisting moron, and it's pathetic how proud you are of your ignorant bullshit. No, idiot, the author of the article did characterize Kamala Harris as a whore; I did NOT.

AND STILL there is NO ONE the Democrats could run who would be a bigger WHORE than Donald Trump or a bigger traitor to America. :)

BBWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And THERE it is. You know you are getting to snowflake when he starts posting this bullshit. He's a loser, and you always know when he's losing because he starts posting that.

My work here is done. :)

You sure spend an awful lot of commenting space trying to justify the unjustifiable..

You researched 20 years into my past, threatened to use it if I didn't change my posting habits and then got slapped down big time when I laughed in your face..

These are the FACTS of the issue...

:D

Yer my bitch... :D

That is ALL there is to this..

It would serve you well to keep in mind that a commenter on this board knows exactly who you are and can keep you honest when you decide to get all up on your high horse... I know you know what I'm talking about...
-Veronica

You had EVERY INTENT to post what you had on me.. Your own words make that very clear..

No, you brainless moron... you're simply proving my point. I sent an email to Neil to have your information removed and then and only then did I yank your chain about it. You insisting to this day that I was going to post your shit while I had it taken down only proves how absolutely gullible and easily conned you were. And you continuing to whine about it to this day proves you're butt hurt. *LOL* :)

So, who is lying Veronica?? I have your own words stating the threat... I have others here who acknowledged that it WAS a threat...

You LIE every day and twist people's words on the Internet. It's how you get your jollies. No one has to post your personal information because you're doing it for them. Duh! You can't even use your brain to figure out that someone... besides YOU... who was going to post your information wouldn't first make sure it got removed... pretty damn stupid... while you continue to dox your family and post your personal information and need no help in that department.

You tried to extort me into changing my posting habits.. Even other Weigantians said that it was a threat...

Help me, JL, help me. There you go again whining for others to help you. Here's a big HINT. If you're really concerned about somebody posting your personal information on the Internet, why don't you do yourself a favor and STOP posting your personal information on the Internet while insisting that someone else was going to do what you had already done multiple times and continue to do to this day. *LOL*

But what you DIDN'T count on is that I would laugh in your face and tell you to take your threats and shove them up your ass... :D

What I DID count on is that you'd LIE and whine and accuse me of posting your information when I never did and never would, and I purposely took steps to actually have your information REMOVED. Meanwhile, YOU posted your own information multiple times and continue to do so without stopping, up to and including on this very page. You and your wife and your family are victims of your own posts... nobody else's.

Yer my little bitch now.... :D

Oh, you're trying to extort me and everyone here knows it! Oh, woe is me. I think I will whine and cry about it over and over ad nauseam and bring it up and whine some more. Quick... where is the link to that long list of names you called me in anger... so indicative of how you were laughing at that time. /sarcasm off

You might be deluding yourself, but you're fooling no one else.

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/03/10/ftp428/#comment-96597

Review your bullshit at the link above and realize you're actually NOT fooling anyone else. Please keep bringing this up once a month or so and whining about it regularly. It's so much proof that you laughed. /sarcasm off

You are way WAY out-classed here.. :D

I don't think you quite understand the meaning of the word "outclassed." You should really CRACK A BOOK and learn SOMETHING. You should start with learning elementary level paragraph writing versus posting a long list of sentences like a moron would do. :)

Sanctuary Cities cause more death and misery in their war against the American people and the rule of law.... :^/

You mean, like fixing the SCOTUS?? That front??

You mean, like fixing Odumbo's screw-up of the economy?? That front??

You mean, like curtailing illegal immigration?? That front??

You mean, like sending the stock market to new heights?? That front??

You mean, like making patriotic Americans PROUD to be Americans again?? That front??

So....

You're perfectly OK with Dumbocrats using the LOWEST BAR they could POSSIBLY imagine as a comparison to themselves..

I mean, honestly... What's next!??

"DUMBOCRATS!!! At Least We're Not Child Molesters!!"

And YOU wonder why Dumbocrats can't win elections!! :D heh

Why yes... Yes it was...

AND still is...

Do Dumbocrats have ANYTHING to compare to that!???

Nope.. Not even close...

but Democrats have to 'up' their game for 2018 and beyond, and fashion a message that not only promises better, but also sells their whole worldview, and looks to the future, not to the past.

I find myself in a strange strange place of actually AGREEING with you.. :D

But let me ask you and get an honest opinion..

Is there ANYTHING that Democrats have done to date that would prove that they are ready to take your advice??

I mean, com'on.. PIZZA slogans!!????

While better than "Have You Seen The Other Guys!!??" not by much....

No, but it's an inescapable fact that you two were suggesting that the two oldest people on that list were your favorites for the number 1 & 2 spots on the Democratic ticket.

Listen, I was a Jerry Brown supporter the first time he ran, in 1976, but he lost me over the course of his next two presidential bids.

And then he did a remarkable thing: he went back to California and re-made himself, re-starting his political career as a Mayor, then as the state's Attorney General, then finally as the Governor once again. His reincarnation as a pragmatic progressive has raised some shackles on the left (as altohone's posts amply demonstrate), but even the purists can't dispute that he's brought California a long way from the days when Gray Davis could be replaced by a former bodybuilder, and enacted a boatload of progressive legislation that will lead the country for a decade to come.

All that said, there are other talents waiting in the wings to make their marks on history. They're younger, hungrier, and ready to make their mark on the next iteration of America. Beating the Republicans AND the Russians in 2020 will require stamina, quick wit, and political agility, and while those older and venerated men have demonstrated those qualities in the past, neither could successfully run that gauntlet even when they were in their prime.

It's time that a new generation has a shot at making their marks on history. Time for America to look forward, not back. "Make America Great Again" was an exceptional slogan, encapsulating in only four words an overt dig at Obama, recognition of Republicans' unhappiness with the direction that the country had taken both culturally and economically, Trump's own grandiosity, and the faux-nostalgia Republicans have always had for a past that never quite actually existed.

"Better skills, better jobs, better pay" beats whatever inane slogan it was that Hillary had to repeat for a year, but Democrats have to 'up' their game for 2018 and beyond, and fashion a message that not only promises better, but also sells their whole worldview, and looks to the future, not to the past.

talk about other posters instead of political issues.

I have offered to end this on several occasions.. But you just can't shut up and stop telling your lies...

So all of this is on you....

Just walk away, quit the personal attacks and name-calling and it will all end..

It's that simple...

But you can't do it..

You mean, like YOU have been doing for months now... MORON.. :D

BBBAWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I did not say I was quoting the article, you uneducated dolt, merely pointed out that the right-wing rag was characterizing her that way and NOT me.

In other words, it was YOUR designation... YOUR characterization not the article's or the author's...

Which is what I said..

You lied, Veronica.. AGAIN...

Through all of these comments, you've said nothing about the FACT that there is no one the Democrats could run that would be a bigger whore than Donald Trump.

Because it has NOTHING with the discussions of your lies, your threats, your extortions...

It's nothing but a lame deflection in a pathetically desperate attempt to obfuscate the fact that I am kicking yer whiny bitch ass to hell and back.. :D

BBWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Actually you are lying.. Big shock..

https://spectator.org/run-kamala-run/

No where in the posted article did the author use the designation "loose woman"..

I did not say I was quoting the article, you uneducated dolt, merely pointed out that the right-wing rag was characterizing her that way and NOT me.

Through all of these comments, you've said nothing about the FACT that there is no one the Democrats could run that would be a bigger whore than Donald Trump.

It's so easy to prove what an ignorant liar you really are, Veronica... :D

Knock yourself out, moron... talk about

Actually you are lying.. Big shock..

https://spectator.org/run-kamala-run/

No where in the posted article did the author use the designation "loose woman"..

I did not say I was quoting the article, you uneducated dolt, merely pointed out that the right-wing rag was characterizing her that way and NOT me.

Through all of these comments, you've said nothing about the FACT that there is no one the Democrats could run that would be a bigger whore than Donald Trump.

It's so easy to prove what an ignorant liar you really are, Veronica... :D

Knock yourself out, moron... talk about

And still to this day it has NEVER ONCE OCCURRED TO YOU that no one need post your personal information because you're doing it to yourself...

And yet, you "made a phone call" IE you paid one of those companies that digs up dirt on people..

Why would you make "a phone call" if there was no need to post my information??

Why would you try to extort me into silence if you had no intent of posting anything??

You have been caught in so many lies, Veronica no one believes ya about anything..

But keep on coming, my little bitch.. Keep posting your lies and your bullshit..

I got all day... :D

BBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I already did, ya moron!!!

Jesus, yer so dense...

Anyhoo, I found out what I suspected... that you're definitely a harmless lying blowhard who has ZERO moral foundation to preach to anybody else. *LOL* :)

So you tried to extort me into silence..

Bullshit. I never once asked you to stop posting. Why would I do that when I wanted to watch you freak out? You should review it and cut the LIES. I said:

It would serve you well to keep in mind that a commenter on this board knows exactly who you are and can keep you honest when you decide to get all up on your high horse... I know you know what I'm talking about... and I've got nothing but pity for you. :)

Then I posted again to Neil telling him to take down your personal information... exactly as I had done in my original email that same day. If I had wanted to, I could have posted the link online and told him, but then it would have called attention to it and I had no intention of doing that. Think, McFly, think!

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/02/15/too-little-from-congress-too-much-from-trump/#comment-94702

Just yanked your chain and told you somebody out there knew who you were... and then watched you whine.

And I laughed in your face...

No, you freaked out and are still freaking out to this day. You got so mad you posted a long, long list of names. *LOL* Good times!

And you were humiliated and tucked yer tail between yer legs and went off to some corner to lick your wounds...

Nice try, idiot. You're still whining, and I'm still laughing. Please never stop whining about it and showing how butt hurt you were.

This is the fact of what occurred and everyone here can attest to that fact...

I can actually link to it. You whined for weeks until you posted a long list of mean names because you were so butt hurt. *LOL* You apologized for posting it too. While I laughed my ass off. The gift that keeps on giving. Never stop whining... m'kay!

And still to this day it has NEVER ONCE OCCURRED TO YOU that no one need post your personal information because you're doing it to yourself... including your LIES, of course. *LOL* :)

While I had NO intentions of posting a damn thing,

It would serve you well to keep in mind that a commenter on this board knows exactly who you are and can keep you honest when you decide to get all up on your high horse... I know you know what I'm talking about...
-Veronica
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/02/15/too-little-from-congress-too-much-from-trump/#comment-94665

You had EVERY INTENT to post what you had on me.. Your own words make that very clear..

So, who is lying Veronica?? I have your own words stating the threat... I have others here who acknowledged that it WAS a threat...

You tried to extort me into changing my posting habits.. Even other Weigantians said that it was a threat...

But what you DIDN'T count on is that I would laugh in your face and tell you to take your threats and shove them up your ass... :D

Yer my little bitch now.... :D

You are way WAY out-classed here.. :D

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/08/23/will-2016-be-a-nader-year-or-a-perot-year/#comment-83063

Face it, goober. You've been punked more than once by me on this board. It's so funny to watch you fall for it like a rube... or an easily conned Trump LOVER... hook, line, and sinker! It is particularly gratifying that you keep whining over and over and won't stop; the gift that keeps on giving because you're so easily conned. *LOL* :)

Are you so MORONIC and ignorant that you can't read the full definition???

search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.

You didn't need to post the thing twice, idiot. Are you so damn stupid that you don't know the meaning of "typically" is "in most cases, usually." Usually means NOT always... so "typically with malicious intent" rules out no one.

What "malicious intent" would I have??

"Typically" with "malicious intent," moron; it isn't defined as "always with malicious intent." Damn, you're stupid. When you're not LYING, you're busy making shit up. :)

Face the facts, Veronica..

Which coming from you "typically" means LIES are going to follow.

You found out some personal information about me. You used that to hire one of those FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT ANYONE companies to learn somethings about my past.. You were GIDDY with excitement.

Oh, sick... giddy? You've got to be kidding. That's hysterical. You are a vivid LIAR. I can't reveal why your made up bullshit is so ridiculous... just know that you're making a fool of yourself to suggest that I hired a rinky-dink company when I'd have no need to do that whatsoever. *LOL*

Here are the facts:
* You've posted your name, your wife's name, and several times have posted personal information about yourself through your links... because you've doxed yourself and put your personal shit on this board. If you don't believe me, see above on this page where you've doxed your name AGAIN and your son's profession... I am sure with no "malicious intent"... so NOT your "typical" dox.

* I took the information YOU supplied.
* I made a phone call.

"NOW I can be the hero!! I can rid Weigantia of Michale forever!!! THIS will shut him up!! He won't want me to reveal ANY of this!!!"
-Veronica

Bullshit and more of your LIES. Months later I decided to yank your chain when you were in an argument with another poster. Before I did anything, though, I sent an email to Neil on 02/16/2017, the contents reading:

Neil, apologies for emailing you without your permission, but I figured I'd better let you know that the information you posted about yourself and Michale is still up for all the world to see.

Just trying to help you and him out. :)

While I had NO intentions of posting a damn thing, and keep in mind you've already posted your own personal information fairly regularly, I did have EVERY intention of watching you freak out about it. So I then yanked your chain and watched you dance like a trained monkey... an easily conned Trumpanzee. :)

It was a lot of fun at the time, and it's turned out to be the gift that keeps on giving because you're so ignorant that you didn't realize you were being conned and still whining about it to this day. It's a common trait of Trump supporters, you are are so easily conned because you don't generally think anything through.

Anyone planning on taking a trip on 21 Aug?? :D

I was thinking of carting the family off to Mt Pleasant, SC for the view...

But here where we live, we're going to get a .9 magnitude of the full effect.. Seemed silly to drive 10 hours for a .1 magnitude change...

So, looking forward to it... Anyone else??? :D

“Climate change deniers, by way of example, are older. It’s generational. We’re just going to have to wait for those people to ‘age out,’ as they say.”
-Bill Nye

So, let me see if I understand this..

Dumbocrats are telling people to quit having babies and for those older Americans who actually LOOK at the REAL science to hurry up and die...

Yea... Ya'all got a REAL winner of a religion there, eh? :^/

Why don't Dumbocrats just advocate the Final Solution and be done with it??

Kill everyone who doesn't agree with the Dumbocrat Party....

Problem solved.. :^/

You can stop ALL of this at any time... Just say the word...

It wasn't my "designation," it was that of the right-wing rag you posted, and you naturally believe it because it fits your worldview.

Actually you are lying.. Big shock..

https://spectator.org/run-kamala-run/

No where in the posted article did the author use the designation "loose woman"..

That was YOUR designation, ya moron...

It's so easy to prove what an ignorant liar you really are, Veronica... :D

http://tinyurl.com/ya9qgnay

:D

The Scaramucci era will offer none of Mr. Spicer’s failed pretense. It is only a matter of time until Mr. Mueller is fired and this drama enters its third act – which promises more twists, betrayals and indignity. Don’t be shocked that Mr. Trump has hired a new communications director without professional experience. No one with professional experience would be willing to do the job that’s coming.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/with-scaramucci-trump-is-going-to-war-with-the-media-with-the-truth-with-america/article35776537/

"No country has ever been saved by 'good' men. Because 'good' men will not go to the lengths that will be necessary."
-Horace Wapole

or, if you prefer the updated version...

"You don't fight a junkyard dog with ASPCA rules. You take the leash off your bigger and meaner dog."
-Senator, THE SIEGE