Tell it like it is, Russ. The DOJ and its various assorted entities are busy doing what they always do, which is working to prosecute organizer-inciters and flipping lower-level conspirators to build the case against the more senior conspirators.

For instance, they've already indicted Owen Shroyer who helped lure mobsters to the Capitol and who is undeniably connected to Alex Jones and the Infowars conspiracy blathering ignorant bullshit, and several of those who've already plead guilty to conspiracy to commit obstruction are undeniably connected to Roger Stone and were demonstrably with him the day before the planned coup/insurrection. In the instant case, there was a plan in place by multiple insurrectionists, and these lower-level conspirators are obviously flipping because the video evidence doesn't lie.

For those misinformed/gullible and in denial that it was a planned insurrection, there is a shit-ton of video evidence gathered against their conspiracy, which is why they're flipping. "Conspiracy" by definition is a plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful, and some of them are pleading guilty of conspiracy and/or multiple counts of conspiracy as charged in court documents because... well... they're guilty.

As for Alex Jones and his cohort(s), they're guilty of planned conspiracy. The video doesn't lie:

Authorities say video shows Shroyer marching to the Capitol from the Ellipse shortly before the building was breached, telling the crowd “today we march for the Capitol because on this historic January 6, 2021, we have to let our Congressmen and women know, and we have to let Mike Pence know, they stole the election, we know they stole it, and we aren’t going to accept it!”

Shroyer was seen on the west side of the Capitol next to the inauguration stage as well as at the top of the stairs on the east side of the Capitol, authorities said in the documents.

Authorities say Shroyer was vocal in advance of Jan. 6 about stopping the certification of the Electoral College vote. The day before the riot, he spoke at Freedom Plaza, declaring: “Americans are ready to fight. We’re not exactly sure what that’s going to look like perhaps in a couple of weeks if we can’t stop this certification of the fraudulent election ... we are the new revolution! We are going to restore and we are going to save the republic!” according to the court papers.

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-electoral-college-b906c0bcfea44a81fe15b3c2d7481689

Shroyer was indicted in August and isn't even the first person who works for Infowars to face federal charges for the conspiracy on January 6.

So, to recap:

* Russ is correct. Anyone who believes the DOJ and related entities are derelict in their duties should pay better attention to the flipping of low-level conspirators to build the case against more senior conspirators. Reading of the court documents already filed ties them to Roger Stone and Alex Jones. That's how it works.

* Video evidence doesn't lie; there is literally mountains of it, and that's why many of the conspirators have already pled guilty to their planned conspiracy.

How many of the plotters of the insurrection have been arrested or charged with any crime whatsoever? Zero, by our count.

Incorrect. Not only is this not "zero," the number of those plotters now charged with conspiracy or multiple conspiracies is quite a lot more than most people realize.

The actual answer is closer to:

* Four score
* Multiple dozens

More coming too.

https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1

Graham was on the Senate floor speaking after the attempted insurrection had failed. While discussing the tragic events that had occurred, he said the following:

I just think it’s a uniquely bad idea to delay this election. Trump and I, we’ve had a hell of a journey. I hate it to end this way. Oh my God, I hate it. From my point of view, he’s been a consequential president, but today, first thing you’ll see. All I can say is a count me out. Enough is enough. I’ve tried to be helpful, but when this Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled four to three, that they didn’t violate the constitution of Wisconsin, I agree with the three, but I accept the four. If Al Gore could accept five-four he’s not president, I can accept Wisconsin four to three.

You would think that these somber words would be delivered with the gravity that these events deserved… but if you watch old Lindsey as he says these words, I challenge you to find a video where he speaks with the giddiness that he demonstrated this day!!! The muscles in his cheeks had to have started cramping from his apparent inability to wipe the giant smile off of his face. Lindsey believed Trump was done for, and that he would finally be rid of the man he has privately made no effort in hiding his contempt for even as he has kissed Trump’s ring at every turn.

Sadly, Graham was forced to travel to Mar Lardo to ask forgiveness just days later, but the world got to see just how happy Graham was when he believed Trump was done for.

Investigations into the January 6th failed insurrection attempt have been the largest, most far reaching investigations that the DOJ has ever been tasked with conducting. Every branch of the US Attorney’s Office has been required to provide members of their staff to work on it. And while US Intelligence agencies have a long history of not liking to work well with each other, they have supposedly been made to clearly understand by Garland that they will share with investigators ANY and ALL data they have regarding those involved with the January 6 failed insurrection.

Yes, we all would have loved for the arrests to have begun on January 20 and just kept happening little by little until everyone involved was made to answer for their actions; but that is not how you go after organized crime or terrorist organizations if you are wanting to take them down. To prevent those involved from being able to discuss their charges, all of those involved will be arrested simultaneously in massive sweeps by law enforcement. It will be the largest coordinated multi-agency law enforcement sweep in our country’s history.

I know that we live in a world with a collective attention span of about 3 seconds, but good law enforcement investigations move at their own speed…and then strike extremely quickly to prevent those involved from being able to react. Those charged will have the largest bank rolled legal defense we’ve ever seen — so it is imperative that the prosecution’s cases be flawless. The Justice System will face it’s biggest test to date to determine whether wealth is greater than the Rule of Law in our country. Garland making sure that every “I” is dotted and every “T” is crossed before acting is a good thing.

michale wrote,

i>Let's say that in between the time that the wager was made and now, the guy who runs Weigantia(™michale) had died and Weigantia was no more..

Would I be faulted for not following thru with the wager??

Of course not.... Because the circumstances had changed between the time the wager was made and today..

Got great news for you -- Chris Weigant was alive as late as yesterday, so what circumstances changed? Seems like you're in the same shameful circumstance...Weigantia knows you made the wagers and now everyone knows that your word ain't worth rat piss.

"All I Have In This World Is My Balls And My Word, And I Don't Break 'Em For No One!"

Tony Montaña
SCARFACE

There is NO negotiating any different outcome besides MAN UP and PAY UP.

Let me see if I can explain it to you slowly using small words so you can understand..

Let's say that in between the time that the wager was made and now, the guy who runs Weigantia(™michale) had died and Weigantia was no more..

Would I be faulted for not following thru with the wager??

Of course not.... Because the circumstances had changed between the time the wager was made and today..

So it is with our situation... The circumstances have changed between the time that the wager was made and now...

Now, you truly have my pity and sympathy if you can't understand the facts.. But they are facts regardless..

Ironically enough, I *WAS* right about an explosion of President Trump support by minorities....

I simply had the wrong minority... :D

Trump’s Latino Support Was More Widespread Than Thought, Report Finds
While Latinos played a major role in Democratic victories last year, Donald Trump’s outreach to them proved successful in states around the country, not just in certain geographic areas.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/trump-latino-voters-2020.html

Now, you can continue to whine and cry and stamp your feet and throw a temper tantrum if you wish.. By all means... Go ahead..

But yer only hurting yourself..

what would you both agree to be a deserving organization? PBA? Fisher House?

I would be happy to work out an alternate payment..

But MC is in his mood and he has to throw his tantrum..

I'll allow him that and we can move on... :D

Just like old times, eh? :D

Let me put it this way JL...

Biden's FBI would *LOVE* to be able to pin insurrection on these Right Wing scumbags...

Just like Democrats would have LOVED to pin the Russia Collusion Delusion on President Trump....

But, in *BOTH* cases, there simply were no facts that support the charge...

Ergo... There WAS no insurrection... Just like there WAS no Russia Collusion...

Again, it's really THAT simple..

No facts to support the charge.. So the charge isn't made..

Morally, you are entitled to your opinion.. Just as, morally I am entitled to my anti-baby killing analogy..

But factually?? Legally??

There is no 'there' there..

When you man up, I'll be around..

Maybe...

"What do ya say... What do ya say.... You have NEVER thanked me.... See ya tomorrow.... Maybe..."
-Bill Murray, GROUNDHOG DAY

:D

if a group of people rejects the outcome of an election and uses violence in an attempt to install their preferred candidate instead of the one who's been elected, it's irrelevant whether or not there was a big honcho at the top pulling the strings. but don't take my word for it:

And if a group of people reject the laws of a state and use violence to try and usurp those laws or change those laws, then what is that??

You have no logical or rational argument to complain about 6 Jan and ignore 22 years (collectively) of much much WORSE coming from the Democrat side of the equation..

You simply have NOTHING in your cupboard..

This was a Right Wing violent riot.. No different than the 22 years (collectively) of Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings all over the country..

It's really that simple..

This is the Russia Collusion Delusion all over again. Hysterical screams of TREASON!!! SEDITION!!!! COLLUSION!!!!! And what's the worst that came out of it??? Process crimes..

When someone is actually charged with something a LOT more serious than OBSTRUCTING AN OFFICIAL FUNCTION, then come talk to me..

Until then.. Ya got nothing, dood.. . :D

So, on top of all your hate and racism, you are also a cop-hating bigot...

I wish I could say I was surprised... :eyeroll:

Wallow in your hate and bigotry, son... My conscience is clear...

You have my terms.. You want me to follow thru with my obligations.. You follow thru with yours..

When you man up, I'll be around..

When someone is actually CHARGED with a coup or treason or sedition or insurrection then.. And ONLY then.. Will you have the facts on your side...

Com'on dood.. Yer pulling a Jussie Smollet here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXoErL2124

Don't be a Jussie Smollet...

What's it like? I mean, What's it like being a troll? Do you get a little LEO 3" boner** when you think you are being annoying? Why do you pollute Weigantia if it's the equivalent of an ISIS charity?

**It's common knowledge that a lot of guys become cops to make up for their, ahem, inadequacies in that department. Pretty clear you fall into that category.

PAY UP OR SHUT UP.

I concede that you won the bet.. And I am willing to make whatever equitable arrangement we can agree on.. But the original term is just not something I can morally or ethically do..

Apologies you cannot see the principle of the situation here...

This is the principle:

"All I Have In This World Is My Balls And My Word, And I Don't Break 'Em For No One!"

Tony Montaña
SCARFACE

There is NO negotiating any different outcome besides MAN UP AND PAY UP.

what would you both agree to be a deserving organization? PBA? Fisher House?

What part of "NO GRAND SCHEME" is not clear to you??

"no grand scheme" has already been stipulated. however, you seem to think a grand scheme is necessary in order for an attempted coup d'etat to occur, and by most definitions it simply isn't. if a group of people rejects the outcome of an election and uses violence in an attempt to install their preferred candidate instead of the one who's been elected, it's irrelevant whether or not there was a big honcho at the top pulling the strings. but don't take my word for it:

https://clinecenter.illinois.edu/coup-detat-project-cdp/statement_jan.27.2021

JL

p.s. also stipulated that there are a few definitions by which january 6th doesn't quite meet all the criteria for an attempted coup. however, these are a distinct minority.

If you won't meet them, then it's on you..

There is NO negotiating any different outcome

As usual, you are wrong.. :D

You made these bets and now you're welching.

"All I Have In This World Is My Balls And My Word, And I Don't Break 'Em For No One!"

Tony Montaña
SCARFACE

There is NO negotiating any different outcome besides MAN UP AND PAY UP. Or not. It's only your name and your personal integrity that's on the line.

For the record, the only way I'd be having a "temper tantrum" would be if,

1- You lived in my head like I live in your's,
and
2- I actually expected you to keep your word.

That would be TWENTY *TWO* YEARS of Democrat BLM and AntiFa violent riots and attacks on HUNDREDS of government buildings all over the country..

My bust...

'nuff said... :D

correct, it was completely disorganized, and conducted by probably 30% white supremacist nutjobs, 70% basically normal people who got caught up in crowd-think and didn't realize that what they were participating in was a coup attempt.

And yet, NO ONE was charged with a coup attemp.. The *WORST* charge that came down is INTERFERING WITH AN OFFICIAL FUNCTION...

In other words, the same thing as disrupting a PTA meeting.. :eyeroll: ...

as i've demonstrated however, it was in fact a coup attempt, by definition.

You have not..

The FBI statements PROVE you are factually not accurate..

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

What part of "NO GRAND SCHEME" is not clear to you??

WHY hasn't anyone been charged with 'coup' or 'insurrection' or 'treason' or 'sedition'????

Because it never happened..

All it was, was a violent Right Wing protest that turned into a riot..

Like TWENTY YEARS (collectively) of Democrat BLM and AntiFa violent riots and attacks on HUNDREDS of government buildings all over the country..

That fact that you ignore these facts is very telling...

:D

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result

correct, it was completely disorganized, and conducted by probably 30% white supremacist nutjobs, 70% basically normal people who got caught up in crowd-think and didn't realize that what they were participating in was a coup attempt.

as i've demonstrated however, it was in fact a coup attempt, by definition. if that 70% had been aware in the moment that that's what it was, they probably wouldn't have done it. in fact, many of them have used social psychology of crowd behavior as a legal defense, to reduce their sentences. i'm not sure whether or not it worked.

JL

NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.73 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

winner and still champion, nature.

Biden says he agrees with GOP governors: There's 'no federal solution' to pandemic
President pushing numerous federal solutions to pandemic, including onerous vaccine mandate rule

"There is no federal solution. This gets solved at the state level," Biden responded, before mentioning another Republican governor.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-states-fix-omicron-covid-governors-call

Biden claimed he was going to kick COVID's arse...

Looks like it's the other way around.. :D

Before you go.....

Would you like some cheeze to go with your whine...??? :D

I think understanding that people are pissed off and that that's okay and that there's an understanding of what those lives are like and a desire, and the goal is fixing those things and looking in touch with people, those are the things that Democrats can do tonally. I think pointing to, 'Hey, things are actually great' just sounds totally tone deaf.”
-Molly Murphy, Democrat Party pollster

Again.. This is not *ME* saying anything..

This is the kind of message that DEMOCRATS are putting out..

This is the kind of message that Weigantians(™michale) have been reading here in Weigantia(™michale) the last 9 months or so..

Don't hate on the messenger just because you don't like the message.. :D

*TWENTY THREE* Democrats have signaled their intention to retire or not otherwise seek re-election.. And that number CONTINUES to grow..

Even Democrats acknowledge the coming Uber-Nuclear-Apocalyptic Shellacking that is coming for the Democrat Party... :D

As I said, I am (probably) not going to make any big predictions for Nov 2022... I don't have to..

I'll just agree with the Democrats with THEIR predictions.. :D

Oh, I am sure ya'all could find a one-off PollyAnna prediction from a Democrat or two... :D

But the consensus is clear... Democrats are heading for a HUGE fall... Likely to be the minority Party for a decade or more.. :D

Couldn't happen to a more deserving Party... :D

And the beat (down)_goes on.. :D

He is the embodiment of America.. He is what Americans can accomplish if they ignore political bullshit and simply do the right thing for America...

And let's keep in mind one fact..

When President Trump *WAS* a Democrat, he was loved by the Democrat Party.. The Democrat Party heaped honors upon honors on President Trump.. President Trump was honored by Jesse Jackson and was honored alongside Rosa Parks by the Democrat Party.. All of this is well-documented FACT....

Which simply proves my tag line beyond ANY doubt..

Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

Mainstream media fume over dad saying 'Let's Go Brandon' to Biden: 'Vulgar,' 'right-wing slur'
Media refers to phrase as 'vulgar insult' and 'right-wing slur'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/media-meltdown-dad-said-lets-go-brandon-biden

Democrats all have their panties in a twist over LET'S GO BRANDON!!...

Yet, during the awesome-for-America President Trump years, Democrats were ALL about "F*CK TRUMP!!... Democrats couldn't get enough of it.. And that hysterical hate and bile continue to this day...

And yet, Democrats whine and cry and stamp their feet over a anti BASEMENT Biden meme that the Left THEMSELVES created!!

It's hilarious... :D

Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

Ah, yes, so we're back to the juvenile name-calling. How sweet. Sigh, roll eyes and all that jazz.

I wouldn't worry too much about it..

We should allow MC his temper tantrum and I am sure he will get over it..

Republicans did very, very well in the 2020 elections.

Yes they did.. They did fantastic.. And the presidential race was completely out of whack with the congressional races...

It's as if something was going on behind the scenes in the presidential race... Hmmmmmmm

I mean, recall election night...

Biden gave a pretty good speech for the troops, I have to admit...

I couldn't stomach more the first few seconds of it and turned him off when he said that he feels like he's in a good place.

D-E-L-U-S-I-O-N-A-L
-Liz

Seriously?

No, I've watched enough of these presidential elections and Biden primarys to know when it's over.
-Liz

Think back.. Ya'all *KNEW* it was over.. Oh sure, there were some PollyAnnas who still held on, but ya'all KNEW that the game was up.. That President Trump won..

And I said it at the time..

PRESIDENT Trump's leads in WI, NC, GA and PA are just too large for Basement Biden to have a chance...
-Michale

And, at the time, that was factually accurate..

So, you REALLY have to wonder at how this "miracle" came about...

It's been my experience that "miracles" are not real.. They don't happen.. They are created by humans...

And this "miracle" was no exception..

Democrats cheated.. It's the ONLY explanation that fits all the facts...

Of course, Trump ain't no Republican. Heh.

Factually, he is. But in the spirit of what you are saying, I agree.. He is better than a Republican. He's much better than a Democrat..

He is the embodiment of America.. He is what Americans can accomplish if they ignore political bullshit and simply do the right thing for America...

President Trump is the quintessential American..

The IN YOUR FACE, FRAK YOU, I AM DOING THE RIGHT THING SO GET THE FRAK OUT OF MY WAY American...

We were very lucky to have him as POTUS.. And, if things continue on the present course, then we will once again have him where he needs to be and where America needs him to be..

Back in the Oval Office..

Like I said.. That's not MY prediction. That's the Democrat Party's prediction..

Not to mention that there was never any evidence produced by Team Republican to show the fraud that would have been necessary to steal this election from Trump.

There was PLENTY of evidence.. It was simply ignored by the Trump/America haters.. I would list it all for you, but I know it won't matter whatsoever..

I mean, you would have to think that state level Republican leaders and election officials not to mention the courts (all levels of them) were in cahoots with the election-stealing Dems. And, that's a ridiculous notion.

Not so ridiculous when you consider the level of hate that President Trump generates amongst Democrats and some Republicans..

It's not ridiculous whatsoever.. It's very plausible..

Regardless, that is not the fraud I am mainly referring to.. I am referring to the upwards of a BILLION dollars that Trump/America hating groups spent to buy ENTIRE election boards and staff those ONLY with Democrat operatives.. Boards that were able to manipulate ballots and counts with impunity...

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."
-Author Unknown

So, the REAL fraud that coronated Biden took place BEFORE the election..

This is well-documented..

Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election, fair and square.

I understand and respect your opinion..

I simply disagree... AND I have the facts to back up my opinion..

But it's not something worth debating back and forth as neither of us will change the other's mind..

It just is and we can leave it at that if you so choose..

The relevant question isn't whether I waste my time digging up the link. Weigantia knows you made the wagers and now everyone knows that your word ain't worth rat piss.

Yea, yea, yea... You hated me before.. You hate me now.. In other words, your nothing has changed..

I understand it's just your hate and bigotry talking..

Oh, I am sure now you will say, "I may have hated you but I thought you were a man of your word" blaa blaa blaa or words to that effect..

Yea, sure... :eyeroll:

I concede that you won the bet.. And I am willing to make whatever equitable arrangement we can agree on.. But the original term is just not something I can morally or ethically do..

It's that simple...

Whine and cry and stamp your feet all you want.. Like I said.. It simply means nothing has changed..

Apologies you cannot see the principle of the situation here...

But, you ARE a Democrat so it's not surprising.. :D

Republicans did very, very well in the 2020 elections. Of course, Trump ain't no Republican. Heh.

And, to boot, Trump almost won the damn presidential election save for far less than 100,000 votes over three key states.

Not to mention that there was never any evidence produced by Team Republican to show the fraud that would have been necessary to steal this election from Trump. I mean, you would have to think that state level Republican leaders and election officials not to mention the courts (all levels of them) were in cahoots with the election-stealing Dems. And, that's a ridiculous notion.

Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election, fair and square.

The relevant question isn't whether I waste my time digging up the link. Weigantia knows you made the wagers and now everyone knows that your word ain't worth rat piss.

"All I Have In This World Is My Balls And My Word, And I Don't Break 'Em For No One!"

There is NO negotiating any different outcome besides MAN UP AND PAY UP. Or, keep being a douchebag.

Democrats have been going on and on about how their Wet Dream Bill (AKA Build Back Broke) will help West Virginians and be so good for them etc etc..

When the fact is, the BS Climate Change provision will totally decimate West Virginia's economy and totally ruin West Virginians' livelyhoods..

West Virginians know who their champions are..

West Virginia business leaders rally behind Manchin for opposing Biden's Build Back Better
They say the media have failed to report the negative effect the bill would have on the state
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/west-virginian-business-leaders-rally-behind-manchin-for-opposing-bidens-build-back-better

And it's Joe Manchin who is looking out for West Virginians...

Not the haters like the bartender, Occasional Cortex and the islamic pro-terroist congresscritters and the ignorant like Bernie Sanders and the bigots like Bette Middle Tire Midler... :eyeroll:

Joe Manchin has West Virginia's back....

Oh man, now I am jealous!!!

We REALLY miss the snow...

We're taking the grandkids to a Snow Park outside of Tampa next month.. One last hurrah before my surgery..

We have always wanted the grandkids to see snow... But this facsimile is probably the best we can hope for...

:D

Some might even say, I would *RELISH* every opportunity...... :D

And yet your CDC link backing this up does not have a "6%" anywhere on the page. Interesting that...

Proof positive that the Democrat COVID hysteria and fear mongering is nothing but a political agenda..

Well, the Democrats and just about everyone else in the entire world except Trump Republicans and a few goopers. Occam's Razor should tell you something about that, but it probably won't...

I did have a good Christmas, even woke up today to a nice dusting of snow. Hope you had a good Christmas as well...

Factually not accurate..

I won the JM bet...

And I am willing to come to an agreement with MC once he practices what he preaches and doesn't require giving money to an undeserving organization...

It would be as if a wager was made to give money to a muslim charity and then discovering that the charity is a front for Hamas..

NO WAY IN HELL would I follow thru and do that... Castigate me all you want, but it's a stand on principle and integrity..

But don't worry, you will be reminded often should you go on another tear goading everyone to bet..

Feel free.. :D I would welcome *every* opportunity to show the blatant and hysterical hypocrisy of these lesser Wegantians(™michale)... :D

Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing or do you really not understand this stuff? From your CDC link, the column with footnote [3]: Deaths from pneumonia: 730,446. Pneumonia is a condition that is caused by bacteria, a virus and in rare cases fungi or a few other weird situations. The virus, in this case COVID attacks the lung cells and starts replicating. The body mounts a defense and attacks the virus infected cells. This battle causes fluid in the lungs, so much so that without help not enough oxygen gets in to the system and the person dies. Fluid in the lungs killed the person. COVID caused the immune response that caused the fluid in the lungs that killed the person. In medicine that is called, wait for it, the underlying cause.

Blaaa blaaa blaaa blaaa blaaaa..

The CD&GC has stated as fact that only 6% of the death toll died of COVID..

This is well-documented and factual....

What you are doing is trying to mitigate, equivocate and lessen the negative impact of this fact has on the Democrats' political agenda..

It's like when JM and I were debating the DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies of the Democrat Party..

Like you, JM tried to mitigate and equivocate and lessen the negative impact that the policy had on Democrats. He tried to explain away using misdirection, perceptions and outright BS to claim that DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE doesn't *REALLY* mean to actually defund, demoralize and demonize the police..

And my response to JM was the same response I give to you...

You may spin things any way you want.. But the FACT remains.. The CD&GC stated that only 6% actually died of COVID..

As it turns out with JM, I was (of course) proven dead on ballz accurate.. The DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies of Democrats *ACTUALLY MEANT* to defund, demoralize and demonize the police...

As evidenced by the FACT that NOW... NOW the mayors of liberal cities all over the country are *RE-FUNDING* the police at a furious pace, to the consternation and condemnation of Progressives who deny that there is a crime wave... :eyeroll: (mutters) morons...

I was proved totally factually accurate with THAT issue..

And the facts prove me factually accurate on the COVID issue..

Yay, one anecdotal example. Answer me this: why is the excess deaths over the COVID period a little bit higher than the listed COVID death rate?

Oh, there are MANY MANY more examples of mis-diagnosis of COVID deaths...

"Wait, what!?? He kissed you?? There's no button for that..."
"Oh, he found the button.."
-FREE GUY

:D
.... But you will ignore all of those as well, because it doesn't fit the Democrats' and their partisan Anti-America agenda..

What's funny is that *ALL* of these "honest mistakes" *ALL* go in the same direction...

The direction that paints COVID much more serious than it really is...

Proof positive that the Democrat COVID hysteria and fear mongering is nothing but a political agenda..

This is established fact that no amount of the Democrats' political-based agenda will change.. :D

Hope you and your family had a great Christmas, Bashi... :D

Right before you took your ball elsewhere you were pushing bets really hard. Goading anyone who disagreed with the point in hand. You tried to get me to bet with you multiple times. I just ignored you as I don't play that game. It's hilarious you have become a welcher. But don't worry, you will be reminded often should you go on another tear goading everyone to bet...

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing or do you really not understand this stuff? From your CDC link, the column with footnote [3]: Deaths from pneumonia: 730,446. Pneumonia is a condition that is caused by bacteria, a virus and in rare cases fungi or a few other weird situations. The virus, in this case COVID attacks the lung cells and starts replicating. The body mounts a defense and attacks the virus infected cells. This battle causes fluid in the lungs, so much so that without help not enough oxygen gets in to the system and the person dies. Fluid in the lungs killed the person. COVID caused the immune response that caused the fluid in the lungs that killed the person. In medicine that is called, wait for it, the underlying cause.

Tell, me Bashi.. The guy who died in a motorcycle accident.. Was COVID the underlying cause?? :eyeroll:

Yay, one anecdotal example. Answer me this: why is the excess deaths over the COVID period a little bit higher than the listed COVID death rate?

This is established fact that no amount of your political agenda-based spin will change...

I vote for a new category..

DUMBEST CONGRESS CRITTER OF THE YEAR

The broader point is that, according to the Democrats, we have suddenly been beset by a plethora of capitalist conspiracies, worthy of Chavez/Maduro Venezuela: Big Oil is responsible for exploding gasoline prices, auto companies–according to Warren–are to blame for rapidly rising vehicle prices, semiconductor companies (again, per the eternally clueless Ms. Warren) are behind the chip shortage, and so on.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/12/big-grocery-seriously.php

Democrats will blame EVERYONE and ANYONE..

When all they need to do is look in the mirror to see who is responsible for the US' state of the economy...

While there was an absolute failure of intelligence and planning wrt Afghanistan, we had screwed up too much for any withdrawal to go smoothly. From Bush to Obama to the LOLPE, there was no way to leave well and leaving was the right move.

While it's true that previous POTUSes (POTUSii?? POTUSium???) didn't have a stellar record in Afghanistan, Basement Biden's failure was all his own..

President Trump had a great plan... The Taliban was following President Trump's plan.. When the Taliban stepped out of line, President Trump pounded on them... There is a very good reason why there were no US casualties in the last 18 months of President Trump's 1st term..

there was no way to leave well and leaving was the right move.

Factually not accurate.. Had Basement Biden followed President Trump's plan, the withdrawal would have gone well..

Like a band-aid, I think the best move was to tear it off quick. It wouldn't have been any better had we done it more slowly or with different planning.

With respect, I call BS on this my friend...

Basement Biden's biggest mistake, the ONE MISTAKE the set up the rest of this massive failure was to relinquish the ONLY strategic asset that the US had in the TOP.. From that one huge collossal frak-up, all the other frak ups flowed.. That one catastrophic and bone-headed move *DIRECTLY* led to 13 brave American troops being needlessly killed..

Further, Basement Biden showed a complete lack of understanding and a total unawareness of the facts and reality when he claimed that the Afghanistan withdrawal was an "extraordinary success"...

These are the facts.. And they are indisputable..

Oh, on a related note, I can't say I'm upset that Rumsfeld will never again have the opportunity to screw something up.

I am sure many will say the same thing about Basement Biden when he passes... :^/

Manchin will not become an R. He does know there's too much treason there. He might go Independent/Unaffiliated, but supporting traitors is too large a chasm.

Calling Americans who have done so much good for this country "traitors"... THAT is too large a chasm...

Having said that, I agree with you.. Manchin right now is the biggest fish in the Democrat Party pond. If he were to become a GOP'er he would be, AT BEST, a medium sized fish in a much larger and much more patriotic pond....

Plus many on his staff are die-hard Democrats and they would find it impossible to make the leap to the logical and rational and patriotic Pro-LEO Pro-America Party...

I hope you and yours had a really awesome Christmas.. :D

Do you have confidence in elections in your country or do you believe they are rife with fraud and that results should not only be suspect but that people are justified in fighting like heck to overturn them?

Up until recently, I have always had confidence in US elections..

But when I saw what Democrats had done prior to the 2020 election.. Spending close to a BILLION dollars to buy entire Election Boards and staff those boards with Democrat operatives...

When I saw the disparity of results between the Presidential Election and the Congressional Elections??

Yea, I have to wonder..

In other words, do you believe Biden won the last presidential election, fair and square?

I do not..

And I have almost a BILLION reasons why I do not believe that Biden won fair and square..

Look at the facts.. Biden did almost ZERO campaigning in the conventional sense.. He was insulated and protected from real scrutiny by the press and media..

In any REAL election, Biden would have lost and lost big time..

And also, keep in mind how things were here in Weigantia(™michale)... Everyone had all but conceded the election to President Trump.. You, JL and Bashi (the only people of any real import) had accepted as fact that President Trump had won re-election..

Then, all of the sudden, after hours, a ton of ballots mysteriously appeared and turned the tide...

Couple that with the FACT of the almost BILLION dollars spent buying whole election boards and staffing them with Democrat operatives???

Well, something is rotten in Denmark.. There are a plethora of facts that indicate foul play...

So, yea... I don't believe Biden won... Democrats cheated... Pure and simple..

Note that if you have already answered know that since the election, I haven't been following things very closely. As you know, I have been advocating for a Biden presidency for a very long time - since about 1987, truth be known - and so, when it actually happened, I felf my work here was esssentially done and I was definitely ready for a break from it all. :)

OH how well I know that feeling.. :D

Also, the preview button is your friend ...

Not sure I understand where this is coming from??

Yea, I have used the PREVIEW function a lot of late.. The biggest thing I watch for is an unclosed ITALICS or BOLD... That really screws up my flow...

It would be nice if it was lined up properly instead of on big run-on paragraph... But then again a Limited-Time EDIT function would also be nice..

Oh well, we go with the forum we have not the forum we wish we had... :D

Always great to hear from you, Liz... :D

I recently purchased a new VIDEO CARD.. A schweet RTX 3060ti...

Due to circumstances, I had to do a lot of hardware upgrades and such which forced a re-install of Windows.. I decided to upgrade to Windows 11...

Before the latest upgrade, whenever I posted to ANY forum, there would be a faint red squiggly line under any words that were misspelled..

While I consider myself of above average intelligence, sometimes there are words I mispell... Usually by typos or what have you...

But I am no longer getting the red squiggly under the misspelled words?? I thought it might be because I need the MS OFFICE SUITE installed, but I did that and still don't have the red squiggly...

I am using the latest CHROME...

Either of ya'all have an idea on what's missing???

Thanx..

Now back to our regularly scheduled political mayhem.. :D

Whose first....

JL... Looks like yer up.. I truly hope you and your family had a great Christmas... :D

january 6th wasn't a "moral" coup attempt, it was by definition an actual failed coup.

Not factually accurate..

Biden's FBI stated so unequivocally and without ambiguity..

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

There you have the FACTS from an completely un-biased source..

6 Jan was no coup.. No insurrection.. It was a protest that got out of hand..

I am SURE you can understand that, JL.. Like 22 YEARS (collectively) of Democrat protests that got out of hand..

The facts are not on your side, JL.

when that "stoopid shit" is trying to violently change the results of a presidential election, which it was, it's by definition an attempted coup.

There are no facts to support the claim that it was trying to change the results of a presidential election.

The FBI specifically stated:

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result,

And, once again, trying to overturn the laws and courts of various states, as Democrats have done for the past 22 YEARS (collectively) and setting up autonomous zones... Those are the very DEFINITIONS of a "coup" and an "insurrection"..

I understand why you want to BELIEVE this about 6 Jan...

But you are simply not factually accurate..

if the MTD is denied, I'll file a motion in limine seeking to obtain an evidentary ruling in advance, and after that I'm going to file against pretrial confinement, and you're going to spend the next three months going blind on paperwork because a Signalman Second Class bought and smoked a dime bag of oregano.

Kudos on the movie quote... Anyone that can tie in a pop culture reference to a debate is aww right in my book...

"OK, that's it kid. No more pop culture references for the rest of the trip!!"
-Tony Stark, ENDGAME

But you realize don't you that you simply proved my point for me??

In the movie, that's a reference to "Laywer Tricks" that lawyers use to evade and usurp justice..

When Danny is in the bar and he hears his own words from some scum-sucking ambulance chaser trying to play games with the law and justice, Caffey is ashamed at the cynicism of himself and his profession..

Caffey then decides to be a LAWYER and fight for JUSTICE..

So, it is in this issue.. You want to use lawyer tricks and mis-direction to distract from the FACTS...

And the FACTS are...

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

There is no "there" there, JL..

It was simply a protest that got violent as emotions ran high..

NO DIFFERENT than the 22 YEARS(collectively) of Democrat protests that got violent as emotions ran high..

Considering the co-ordination and longevity of the Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings all over the country, a much MUCH better case for "coup" or "insurrection" or "terrorism" can be made in the Democrat BLM and AntiFa violent riots than can be made for a SINGLE Right Wing violent riot in a SINGLE building at a SINGLE location over the span of a few hours...

You make a decent argument.. But the facts win out and prove that your argument is not factually accurate...

Peace out, dood.. :D

I'll address JM's so-called wager, even though he shows no character by doing nothing but issueing "reminders" and then running and hiding when I respond...

As to the Presidential Election.. I am calling that as a push because of the rife corruption and cheating that took place... 90% of it BEFORE the election where Democrat groups spent upwards to a BILLION dollars buying entire election boards and staffing them with Democrat operatives... As Stalin said, "It's not who votes... It's who COUNTS the votes.." Or words to that effect..

Ya'all have to ask yourselves.. Why was the Presidential Election so far out of whack with the Congressional races?? Why did Basement Biden barely squeek by in the Presidential race, but Democrats were royally creamed in the Congressional races??

Because the Presidential Race was rife with cheating.. It's that simple. So, while Basement Biden may be wearing the crown, he got it by fraudulent means..

So, no one won that third of the bet..

As to the Senate race, as the November election (which is what our alleged bet was on) the GOP won the Senate 50 to 48...

So, you were wrong on that third of the bet..

The House races?? Yea, you called that.. But, again I ask.. (and AGAIN, I am sure you will ignore) Howz that werkin' out for you Democrats?? :D

While Democrats may have technically retained the House, Democrats got so trounced and shellacked and decimated that they can't do anything with it..

Democrats are like the football team that gets an interception but can't score...

Sure, Democrats got the ball... But then they just go 3 and out so it matters little to the game at all and it's only relevant to the Quarterback's stats... :D

So, you went 1 for 3, so you lost the bet...

As to MC and his wager... Again, like JM, he is great at issueing reminders.. But not so much with his follow-up..

So, tell ya what I am going to do, MC... You address all the points I brought up in response to your hysterical bile and political bigoted and factless points... Let us really see who has the character to do the right thing... :D Let me know if you need any reminders of what your hysteria was all about. Of course, *I'LL* follow up.. Unlike others, I don't ignore points just because they are uncomfortable. I've got the facts on my side and I know it.. That's what people of good character are like..

Once you address your refuted points, THEN we can discuss the alleged wager and come to a mutually agreeable settlement..

Onward and upward!! :D

Hope everyone had a great Christmas, blaa blaa blaa blaa

Let's get down to it..

First, some old business..

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/12/22/will-omicron-wind-up-being-good-news/#comment-182108

is listed as the underlying cause on the death certificate in 92% of deaths (see Table 1).

So, it's listed on a death certificate.. Big woop.. That doesn't change that fact that the CAUSE OF DEATH was something else and an "underlying" COVID may or may not have contributed...

Tell, me Bashi.. The guy who died in a motorcycle accident.. Was COVID the underlying cause?? :eyeroll:

Of course not...

The simple fact is, only 6% of your COVID death toll actually died of COVID.. The other 92% died of something else of which COVID may or may not have contributed.. This is according to Basement Biden's CD&GC....

This is established fact that no amount of your political agenda-based spin will change..

Sinema? Who knows. She might. Your warily stated insinuations about her last week are accurate.

Like a band-aid, I think the best move was to tear it off quick. It wouldn't have been any better had we done it more slowly or with different planning.

Oh, on a related note, I can't say I'm upset that Rumsfeld will never again have the opportunity to screw something up.

Here's a heartfelt wish for good health, soaring spirits and to looking on the bright side in 2022!

Enjoy this musical treat ...

Do you have confidence in elections in your country or do you believe they are rife with fraud and that results should not only be suspect but that people are justified in fighting like heck to overturn them?

In other words, do you believe Biden won the last presidential election, fair and square?

Note that if you have already answered know that since the election, I haven't been following things very closely. As you know, I have been advocating for a Biden presidency for a very long time - since about 1987, truth be known - and so, when it actually happened, I felf my work here was esssentially done and I was definitely ready for a break from it all. :)

Also, the preview button is your friend ...

Got a link??

:D

These are simply examples of political ideolouge extremists getting out of control and doing stoopid shit...

when that "stoopid shit" is trying to violently change the results of a presidential election, which it was, it's by definition an attempted coup. but yes, the "stupidity defense" is a real mitigating factor, which is why they haven't been charged with treason.

if the MTD is denied, I'll file a motion in limine seeking to obtain an evidentary ruling in advance, and after that I'm going to file against pretrial confinement, and you're going to spend the next three months going blind on paperwork because a Signalman Second Class bought and smoked a dime bag of oregano.

class dismissed ;)

JL

Black vote (BV) for Trump over 50% MC pays CW $200

As pointed out by C.W. ONLY EXIT POLLING gives that kind of racial breakdown. So if you accept it based on an average of exit polling data by all networks: NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC then you have a DEAL.
***

I also think that you shouldn't show your face down here if you have no honor.

Character used to be a Republican selling point haha...so I'm curious: were you consciously trying to make yourself look worse than the average Trumpanzie?

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/12/10/friday-talking-points-the-hidden-biden-boom/#comment-181915

So, take your "2nd reminder" and.. Well, yunno... :D

Don't beg.. It's embarrassing..

Oh.. Awww right. I'll address your comment from last week...

@JM

By the way Michale, you were WRONG before and you will be WRONG again, about Democrats and their election prospects.

Just as your were wrong... er... WRONG before in 2016 about President Trump's election prospects and you'll be wrong.... uh.. WRONG again.

"...Nature of the beast"
-Colonel Hadley, THE FINAL OPTION

For the record, those predictions I listed in the previous commentary weren't *MY* predictions. They were Democrats' predictions and polls.. So, if you have a beef with those predictions, take it up with the Democrats who made them.. I agree with those predictions because they fit all the other facts available, but they are not *MY* predictions

Biden's economic record is already far better than Trump's, with greater and faster economic growth, and lower unemployment numbers.

Yes... And that is reflected by Basement Biden's and Horizontal Harris' high poll numbers, eh? :eyeroll:

Oh wait.. Basement Biden has President Trump poll numbers and Horizontal Harris?? Well, let's just say that Horizontal Harris is looking wistfully and enviously at Dick Cheney's poll numbers.. I mean, seriously.. How BAD a VP does one have to be to be looking UP to Dick Cheney!!!???

But hay... Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.. :D

The FACTS paint a different story...

https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2021/12/13/FGRWhgxX0AEPpee.jpg

Further, I am constrained to point out that it is accepted as fact here in Weigantia (™Michale) :D that when congress-critters of a Party start a massive retirement migration, that is a good indication that said Party is heading for an uber-shellacking in the coming election..

At least, it was accepted as fact when it was the GOP that had the massive migration of retirements.. Since we know that hypocrisy is not a bug in Democrat programming but rather a feature, it stands to reason that mass retirement migration=uber election shellacking might not be accepted as fact if said fact is applied to Democrats instead of the GOP..

Again...

"...Nature of the beast.

Whaddya gonna do, eh? :D

When people talk about a new American Civil War, this is the way it will look if it happens. NOT with actual guns and street fighting, but with a DELUGE of lawsuits.

Your side better hope so.. Because if it's NOT... If it DOES turn into a shooting Civil War, your side is 99% un-trained un-armed and afraid of guns and my side is 98% well armed and well trained...

The outcome of a shooting Civil War is pre-ordained and obvious.. The Hysterical Left better beware of their mouths writing checks they are not willing to cash in blood and treasure..

I'm just sayin'...

The bet was if only TWO out of my 3 predictions concerning the 2020 election came true, you would post a link of you holding a sign saying "John is always right, and Michale is always wrong."

Was it??

Link to it please...

I am still waiting for you to honor our bet from last year...

Or are you still going to welsh out on our bet by still going to claim forgetfulness?? Getting TWO reminders now, and considering all the time you apparently now have to post all sorts of nonsense here, gives you no excuse now not to honor it... In fact, you should not be able to post any more comments on here until you do honor the bet you made....

Here is my SECOND reminder to you...

The bet was if only TWO out of my 3 predictions concerning the 2020 election came true, you would post a link of you holding a sign saying "John is always right, and Michale is always wrong."

The three predictions were:

1) A Democrat, Joe Biden, would win the presidency

2) The Democrats would keep control of the House, Nancy Pelosi would remain Speaker

3) Democrats would take control of the Senate, with Chuck Schumer as leader

ALL THREE came true, not just 2 out of 3 - which was your own criteria for defeat, when both Warnock and Ossoff were elected from Georgia

So Michale, are you a man of honor and of your word, or just the full of the inaccurate hot air you spew on here all the time???

Of course, if you want to MORALLY characterize that 6 Jan was a coup or insurrection and that President Trump is responsible, you are free to do so...

Just as I am free to MORALLY characterize my previous abortion analogy as equivelant to Democrats' support of abortion...

However, if you want to morally characterize 6 Jan as you wish to, then you must acknowledge that 22 years of Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings is morally equivelant...

Gods, I have missed this.. :D

But the more severe issue IS with Democrats and their BLM and AntiFa factions..

I see Weigantia(™michale) still doesn't have a time-limited EDIT function.. :(

He's an actor and a politician.. He knows which side butters his bread the most..

So take what he says with a huge grain of salt..

These are simply examples of political ideolouge extremists getting out of control and doing stoopid shit...

But the more severe issue with with Democrats and their BLM and AntiFa factions..

TWENTY TWO YEARS!!!! Collectively, there has been 22 years of violent riots and attacks on government buildings with Democrats not lifting a finger, beyond platitudes and half-hearted calls of "Stop.. Stop... Don't do that.... Stop..."...

I would be more sympathetic to Weigantians(™michale) and their condemnation of 6 Jan if they should even a MODICUM of similar condemnation of 22 years of Democrat riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings...

Then 22 years (collectively) of Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings are MULTIPLE instances of coups and insurrections and the Democrat Party is guilty of them all because they did not do anything to stop them..

It works both ways, my friend.. :D

The facts say otherwise..

No power was siezed.. Ergo no coup..

you're kidding, right? did president trump NOT try to overturn the election?

Did Stacey Abrams NOT try to overturn the GA governor election with her words??

Did Hillary NOT try to overturn the 2016 election with her Russia Collusion delusion and her words??

If you define President Trump's actions as a coup, then you must also define Stacey Abrams' and Hillary Clinton's words..

siezure of power? perhaps it wasn't accomplished, but the rioters certainly tried.

And yet, NO ONE has been charged with trying to sieze power...

The FBI specifically stated that there was no attempt or no conspiracy to attempt to seize power..

The Autonomous Zones and the 22 years (collectively) of Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings all over the country are better examples of "coup" and "insurrection" than ONE single Right Wing riot in ONE single building at ONE single location over the span of a few hours..

There are NO FACTS to prove your claim of "coup" or "insurrection"...

That's not ME saying that..

That is Biden's FBI saying that...

These are the facts...

you're kidding, right? did president trump NOT try to overturn the election? were the reasons he gave true?

noun: coup d'état
1. a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.

sudden? check.
violent? check.
illegal? check.
from a government? check.
siezure of power? perhaps it wasn't accomplished, but the rioters certainly tried.

so... what's your argument then, that what occurred is not what president trump "sought," is that it? he certainly didn't do anything to prevent it. or that because the rioters weren't convicted of sedition or treason it therefore follows that what they did wasn't really an attempted coup d'etat? that's actually a valid criticism of the prosecution thus far, but doesn't change the fact of what the riot was attempting to do. what was going on inside his head is anybody's guess, but the outgoing president was absolutely responsible for what happened.

JL

Trying to cover Basement Biden's ass and she turns out to create a F*CK JOE BIDEN meme that goes viral and is appropriate in ALL conversations and spreads much MUCH further than 'FJB' ever could...

I axe ya...

What *IS* it about Democrats that they are their own worst enemies???

LET'S GO BRANDON!!!!!

:D

I think it's accurate to say that Democrats are heading for a Nov 2022 mid-term disaster of EPIC proportions.. :D A election disaster that's going to make the Uber Shellackings of the past look like fun family picnics by comparison.. :D

Again, just for the record... Those aren't *MY* predictions.. I had a whopper of a bad prediction a bit over a year ago, so I am going to try and swear off large sweeping predictions...

But to be fair, SINCE then, I have had an amazing track record of accurate predictions.. Democrats over-extending themselves. Democrats over-estimating their popularity.. Democrats simply scroo'ing the pooch over and over.. BIF passing with GOP support... Democrat Wet Dream Bill DOA in the Senate.. Yes, I have redeemed myself quite nicely.... :D

But the afore mentioned Democrat uber-massacre in the upcoming mid-terms aren't MY predictions.. They are the Democrat Party's own predictions.. :D

So, if I have the entirety of the Democrat Party agreeing with my own thoughts..

Well, how much better can it get for me, patriotic Americans and this country, eh? :D

2022 is gonna be a great year.. :D

MC, you missed this response to your comment a few commentaries ago.

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/12/10/friday-talking-points-the-hidden-biden-boom/#comment-181918

Knowing how much you don't want to miss a thing from me, I will repost... Naw, don't thank me.. Yer quite welcome.. :D Oh, stop it... Don't gush.. It's embarrassing... Yer welcome.. Really.. :D

@MC

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing about our election results wagers. Not to worry, I'm sure that I have the particulars somewhere.

I am sure you do... :D

I'm sorry to hear about your health travails and by no means surprised that you're one of those hard to kill category guys.

Awwww... You say the nicest things.. :D

Best possible results to ya.

Thank you. Sincerely..

What does surprise me is you showing up in Weigantia so soon. After embarrassing yourself with your premature post electoral crowing you went to radio silence.

You mean, like ya'all with ya'all's premature post electoral crowing in 2016? :D

You mean, like that??

Tell us, did Trump prevail in the end?

No, but the GOP sure did..

Tell me, how are things going for Democrats with their one-hand lead in the house and their ZERO lead in the Senate (sans Horizontal Harris)??

Democrats getting things done?? :D I mean, hell.. Democrats NEEDED the frakin' GOP to get the BIF over the finish line??

Build Back Better?? The Slogan that Basement Biden plagiarized from the UN?? DOA in the Senate.. Democrats can't even sell their OWN on the plan.. Let alone the American people..

I may have lost a battle, but Democrats are losing the war..

Speaking of which, how about that awesome Afghanistan withdrawal? Basement Biden took a good plan and then trashed it, thinking he knew better..

And, as the facts clearly show, the only things that Basement Biden knew how to do better is to throw our allies under the bus and get 13 brave and dedicated American troops killed..

So, yea.. I made a bum call.. Unfortunately for Democrats.. Because, w/o President Trump to make the bogey-man, Democrats have PROVEN they simply are too utterly incompetent to govern..

Democrats have so royally scroo'ed the pooch that even Democrats OWN analysis show that President Trump will be back in the Oval Office come Jan 2025 and after the 2022 mid-terms, Democrats will be the minority Party for at least a decade..

For the record, those aren't *MY* predictions.. Those are the predictions from Democrats..

I could go on and on about Democrat failures, but I need not.. One only has to read the commentaries here in Weigantia(™michale) (nice ta see that lil gem o' mine is still in common usage ;D) for the past 11 months to see how badly Dems have done..

ADDITIONAL NOTE

At the time of the above, we did not know that the Democrat Wet Dream bill was totally DOA... :D

Well, *I* knew it.. There was no way it was going to pass the SENATE.. I even STATED so in the above missive you missed.. :D

But I would add that to the list above on how bad Basement Biden and Horizontal Harris has governed. How crappy this last year has been for Democrats..

And how bad things are going to get...

By the MILLIONS Democrats are experiencing buyers remorse...

Vindication.. Thy name is Michale :D

There are absolutely ZERO facts to prove this is the case.. And MANY facts that prove this is NOT the case..

Further, if a coup or insurrection was the goal, why has no one been charged with anything more serious than DISRUPTING AN OFFICIAL FUNCTION???

The FBI report states unequivocally that there was no plan of coup or insurrection in the works..

Finally, we had a SINGLE Right Wing violent riot in a SINGLE government building at a SINGLE location for a few hours..

And Left Wingers and Trump/America haters get their panties all in a twist...

Yet, we ALSO have had *TWENTY TWO YEARS* (collectively) of Democrat BLM and ANTIFA violent riots and attacks on HUNDREDS of government buildings all over the country.. Many killed, including 8 cops... Tens of thousands injured... Billions of dollars in damages.. Democrat terrorists attacking and burning government buildings WHILE PEOPLE ARE INSIDE!!! Democrat scumbags establishing "autonomous zones" that completely negate thru force of arms, ANY kind of government.. The *VERY* definition of "insurrection" or "coup"...

And yet, the Left Wingery is completely (comparably speaking) silent on all of that...

Let's face the facts and reality, people...

The **ONLY** reason ya'all are in a tizzy over this is because it came from the Right...

If this scene had replicated in it's entirety in the aftermath of Hillary's stunning body-slammed defeat, ya'all's reaction would have been polar opposite.. Ya'all know and I know that to be factually accurate..

Thereby proving my new tagline..

Hypocrisy... It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature..

So, trolls and hackers are a GOOD thing, eh??

But ONLY if it serves a bigoted and hate-filled agenda. :eyeroll:

Hypocrisy... It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature..

K, betcha Liz Cheney not only lasts longer but ends up magnitudes more important than what's-his-name Youngkin.

really excellent column. still, i would have liked ah-nold to get at least a mention in some category for his post january 6th speech.

still sore over that OTHER california recall election? i think his speech was chillingly honest, from the physical abuse he suffered as a child to his family's experience of the rise of nazi germany. just a few paragraphs of the transcript (apologies if this runs afoul of copyright laws):

...Now, I grew up in the ruins of a country that suffered the loss of its democracy. I was born in 1947, two years after the Second World War. Growing up, I was surrounded by broken men drinking away their guilt over their participation in the most evil regime in history. Not all of them were rabid antisemites or Nazis. Many just went along step-by-step down the road. They were the people next door.

It all started with lies and lies and lies, and intolerance. So being from Europe, I’ve seen firsthand how things can spin out of control. I know there is a fear in this country and all over the world that something like this could happen right here. Now, I do not believe it is, but I do believe that we must be aware of the dire consequences of selfishness and cynicism. President Trump sought to overturn the results of an election and of a fair election. He sought a coup by misleading people with lies. My father and our neighbors were misled also with lies, and I know where such lies lead.

JL

What a high bar, eh?

Youngkin is nothing remotely remarkable because the non-President's party ALWAYS loses Virginia. Only Saint Ronnie and Joey Bye Done didn't lose New Jersey, too.

In no time Youngkin will disappear forever off the radar screen, mark my words.

Barring any major scandal or spectacular failure, Youngkin certainly seems poised on the brink of Republican stardom.

Nonsense. Monessen Monessen nonsense!

BETWEEN Saint Ronnie (in 1981) and Joey Bye Done (in 2021, and sorry, Bye Done doesn't much work for me every sitting President's party lost BOTH the VA and NJ off-year Governorships, hellos? So

still not quite done reading, but thank you much for including me in the process. a minor proofreading note: you have beverly cleary listed twice, the second time misspelled "beverley clearly."

JL