Heh! :)

And if sports have taught us anything, by morning, at least one of those cars will be upside down.

Friday!

When Biden took the lead in PA, that was the end of Trump's path to the presidency. So here's what happened at that moment in Philadelphia:

https://twitter.com/EllieRushing/status/1324725533595312129

I notice since his... was it a late Tuesday visit?... he's not been seen since. I guess he's finding it hard to face all the losing, especially after all the crowing he did while here.

Biden +16,784

If the mail-in ballots come in somewhere around 65%-70% for Biden, it's actually possible that Biden could win in North Carolina. The mail-in ballots have been coming in primarily Blue... so we'll see what happens when North Carolina finishes counting in... oh, say... two weeks. :)

Biden +4,186

It's ridiculous that so many news organizations are being so timid about calling Biden the president-elect.

I know, right!?

PA is obvious.

On Tuesday night, you could already see that Trump was underperforming in the North and Northeast compared to 2016. I mentioned this:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/11/03/closing-time-schedule/#comment-171098

We already knew how many mail-in ballots had been sitting there for weeks and months just waiting to be counted so we knew what kind of numbers Trump would need from the election day voters, and they just weren't there when the dust settled.

I actually expected more of a "red mirage" in the North where many of the same-day votes have been reported and absentee/mail-in ballots haven't, and I'm just not seeing it... so far. :) ~ Kick

So Biden wasn't ever "catching up" to Trump because those votes were cast long ago and sitting in boxes just waiting to be counted because PA election workers weren't allowed to count them. You could also tell from the numbers on Tuesday that Biden had a shot at Georgia because there were shit-tons of ballots in Fulton and DeKalb and all those John Lewis counties that had yet to be counted.

NV is over.

Yep. Same reason. We know how many ballots have been sitting there waiting to be counted, and Clark County has 90% of them and is heavily Democratic... Vegas, baby!

It's bizarre that they are waiting while Fat Donny and the GOP are working overtime spewing toxic sewage.

When Biden came to the podium and said they were confident they had won, he was calm, cool, and collected because he knew he had won. Now juxtapose that with Fat Donny's speech on election day wherein he stated they would sue in the Supreme Court... as if anybody could just go directly to the SCOTUS. *laughs* Somebody who knew he had won doesn't talk about suing in the SCOTUS. The Trump campaign and Fat Donny knew they had lost on election night; Fat Donny lies like a rug, but words and body language that night weren't lying... he knew. It was only a matter of counting those ballots that were sitting there waiting for all that time because the GOP went to court and sued in order to keep them from being counted until election day. :)

I would argue that they have been countering Trump's bullshit for the most part. They don't have to declare Biden the winner to do that. Time will prove who the real winner is, and the more Trump tries to declare it to be himself, the weaker and more pathetic he looks.

I think the news media is handling things exactly the right way. They are reporting the numbers. They are reporting on counting process, how it is being done and how it is being safeguarded. That is the most important thing they can be doing right now, because the more transparent the process of the vote counting is, the less credible Trump's accusations of fraud and cheating become. The best way to fight his constant stream of bullshit is by showing the truth as plainly and simply as possible so that it can't be ignored. The news media has been doing that, and that is far more important than projecting a winner.

By that same logic, there's no benefit to them projecting a winner yet either. Look, they've been wrong a lot regarding presidential elections over the past 4 years, so they really need a win. And by win, I mean an instance where they are not wrong.

Keep in mind, those who still retain a decent amount of trust for the news media can already tell that Biden has won anyway, so they don't need the media to declare it for them. Those who have little trust would see a declaration at this point as more evidence of bias towards Biden since there are still votes to be counted. There's simply nothing to be gained by the news media by declaring a winner right now.

I think that's most likely. Also, considering how much the race has shifted from day to day, it's probably for the best to wait until as much vote as possible is counted, just to be certain. The last thing the media wants right now is to call the election and end up being wrong. No matter how it went, it would cause chaos and destroy what the little credibility they still have.

probably they're being overcautious to avoid even the semblance of the appearance of partisan bias in calling the race.

JL

dragonball isn't about nerdy or not, it's a generational thing.

JL

Biden +13,371

Biden +12,390

Multiple sources... brain overload! ;)

Hang in there! :)))

They've already declared the space over Biden's house in Delaware as National Defense Air Space. The transition has already begun.

O fabrous day! Callooh! Callay!

Steve Bannon has called for the beheading of Dr. Fauci and Chris Wray and has been banned by Twitter.

Possibly (though not necessarily since I find myself in a really silly mood with a craving for tomato soup and garlic bread at 3:48 in the morning) a comma after Wray might have prevented my thinking for one very confused second that it was Wray that Twitter had banned! But common sense decrees that of course it was Bannon; he was ever the extremist radical with bloody visions of violence.

Steve Bannon has called for the beheading of Dr. Fauci and Chris Wray and has been banned by Twitter.

https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/1324485819042705408

Multiple sources... brain overload! ;)

Biden is up by +20,542 in Nevada

And the news just keeps getting better! I do wish WashPo would update faster though. Might try a local station...

Nevada

Biden +22,076

As per usual, I'm liking your numbers way better than mine! Are you seeing this on the picture box or the intertubes? I'm watching via WashPo which has become very slow to update.

Biden is up by +20,542 in Nevada.

I'd very much like to see a Harris/Castro ticket.

As for Speaker of the House, I think Pelosi will retire at the end of 2022 and the gavel will pass to Adam Schiff. When he moves on, I'd like to see Katie Porter follow him.

However, in lieu of Porter, especially if she moves into a cabinet position which is another strong possibility for her, Lauren Underwood might be ready to pick up the gavel.

Nevada +11,438 with 9% left to count

Arizona +43,779 with 7% left to count

Georgia +1,584 with <1% left to count

North Carolina - 76,737 with 6% left to count

Pennsylvania +8,867 with 5% left to count

I reckon Biden's on track for 321 EVs!

There are still ~5,000 votes coming from Gwinnett County. Those are Atlanta 'burbs and should help pad Biden's lead in Georgia. :)

When would that potential ticket be in play, 2028 or 2024? I feel like there's a decent chance that Biden could step away after a single term if things are looking more normal. The job is known to age people at a rapid rate, and he'll already be 78 when he's inaugurated. If he feels like he's successfully brought the country back to sanity, I think he may step aside for the youth movement.

Biden +22,076

Looking down the road further, how about a Kamala Harris / Pete Buttigieg ticket for president and vice president after Biden? As long as we are speculating... Or maybe Harris / Castro? And a Democratic African American Speaker of the House after Pelosi?

Mail ballots postmarked by Election Day are accepted until November 12 (not a typo) in North Carolina. Just a guess, but I bet they are counting the mail-in votes and not releasing the counts. Those will likely heavily be from Democrats as well.

Sorry if that was a little too nerdy for this crowd...

I was thinking of him returning to HUD as well. It's something he's proven himself good at, and also provides an excellent avenue to connect with minorities.

I am curious though if he might take an interest in running for Congress in 2022 or challenging Cruz for his senate seat in 2024. Or maybe he'd be interested in challenging Greg Abbott for governor in 2022. If he's as interested in eventually being president as he appears to be, serving in one of those would offices would significantly help his bid.

I'm loving all this good news!

They finally called it for Mark Kelly. Arizona will have two Democratic senators. Suck it, GOP.

Biden +1,586

North Carolina has said that they will not complete their vote count until next week. Presumably to allow for all their military votes to come in by mail from overseas? A perfectly reasonable and not unusual circumstance at all, especially in a very close election.

Thank you for that explanation though what you find a "perfectly reasonable and not unusual circumstance at all," I find somewhat worrying given the perfidiousness of the NC GOP.

Biden +43,779

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Good news: Maricopa County releases counts, and Biden is still leading with Trump underperforming the numbers he needs to overtake Biden in Arizona. The vast majority of the remaining ballots to be counted are mail-in ballots which will favor Democrats. Biden is still on track to win Arizona.

You need to factor in the electronic election cheating in some of those states to show their true colours. The high number of mail-in ballots is what is revealing the true colour of states like Georgia and Pennsylvania. The same will be true of North Carolina if only they'd get down to counting those mail-in ballots - what the hell's going on down there?

"But there doesn't seem to be any counting going on in NC for the last couple of days and none this morning either. WYF NC?"

North Carolina has said that they will not complete their vote count until next week. Presumably to allow for all their military votes to come in by mail from overseas? A perfectly reasonable and not unusual circumstance at all, especially in a very close election.

I too hope Julián Castro is offered a cabinet position. He proved himself to be an excellent HUD Secretary. He may like to continue in that role or perhaps move into another concerning immigrants - would that be the Department of Homeland Security?

I didn't fall asleep; you fell asleep! :P

Yeah I did, only just woken up at stupid o'clock in the morning here. What's going on?

What'd I miss? Did a right wingers' head explode yet? *laughs*

Hahaha! Dunno what I missed either but I've a feeling I'm gonna enjoy finding out! ;) :)

I think Julian Castro needs to get a prominent position in the cabinet. He's still popular in Texas, and would be an ideal candidate for Latino outreach. I was actually hoping he'd be a VP candidate this year back when the primaries started. At 46 years old, he's still young enough to spend some more time as a cabinet member before moving up.

I don't know but regardless of whether or not Cunningham conceded, the race has not yet been called and mail-in ballots continue to arrive and need counting. At one point this race was showing a 99% count completed but is now back to 94%, presumably due to the arrival of mail-in ballots.

But there doesn't seem to be any counting going on in NC for the last couple of days and none this morning either. WYF NC?

Spoiler Alert: Federal law has been violated.

"North Carolina isn't out of it yet. Biden is behind by 76, 737 votes with around 328,000 ballots (~6%) yet to count. I'd say these are mail-in ballots which may help Cal Cunningham too. He's 96,698 behind so he needs to pull in two-thirds of the remaining ballots to get clear of Tillis."

Didn't Cal Cunningham concede the race already to Tillis, or am I wrong?

"No Mopshell, I'm not talking about congressional electorates - I'm talking about Indian country."

One of the stories about this election will be how the African American vote, especially women, won the election for Biden in places like Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia and Atlanta.

The other will be the collapse of the Latino vote swinging from Biden to Trump in places like the Rio Grande valley of Texas and south Florida's Miami / Dade county. The label of socialist worked with Cuban and Venezuelan Americans, as did the lack of community outreach by Democrats in those areas. Democrats need Latino leaders from their own community to canvass for votes, not white outsiders. And the outreach needs to start much earlier and longer, like Stacey Abrams did in Georgia.

"Could it be that Democrats are just not fighting the right fight in Ohio or greater Rust Belt or elsewhere in the country?"

Not likely. The two parties have been sorting themselves out for a while now. Republicans are becoming the party of people without a college degree, and those in declining manufacturing jobs.

Democrats are becoming the party of the college educated and those working in the high tech or mostly information based economy.

Level of education now determines and accounts for party identification more than any other factor. As does the rural / suburban and urban divide.

I seriously doubt that ANY Democrat will ever get those white blue collar voters back no matter what the message.

What'd I miss? Did a right wingers' head explode yet? *laughs*

Not sure about a Swiss bank account, but we do know he has a Chinese bank account...

https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1687,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_1044/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1571346425/191017-wilson-trump-toddler-tease_t7c0cj

It's a near run thing, but it looks like Trump has no path to EV victory. If he wants to avoid the real prospects of financial ruin and/or prison he would wise to get his pimply ass out of the country. I'm assuming he has a Swiss bank account or the equivalent.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/our-commander-in-chief-donald-trump-is-a-petulant-little-child-and-the-bad-guys-of-the-world-have-his-number

“No, maybe I can’t win, maybe the only thing I can do is just take everything he’s got. But to beat me, he’s gonna have to kill me, and to kill me, he’s gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me, and to do that, he’s gotta be willing to die himself and I don’t know if he’s ready to do that. I don’t know, I don’t know.”
– Rocky

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6 and 8 are higher up than the rest of the numbers, and 1, 2, and 0 are smaller than the rest.

I think my brain may be a bit burned out, or I may just be a little sleep deprived. Been a rough couple of days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jzDnsjYv9A

Pennsylvania: Trump +18,049
Georgia: Biden +1,097
Arizona: Biden +47,052
Nevada: Biden +11,438

JL

https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-10-2019/lXPoyQ.gif

Lewis Carroll understood that the best way to celebrate a huge win is with brand new words! :)))

I think Georgia has stopped counting for the night. May they all sleep the sleep of the just and wake refreshed to continue with their task tomorrow later today!

Callooh! Callay!

Heh.

-CW

Fantastic news! WashPo hasn't updated yet but Australian television has. My housemate tells me there's less than 1% of votes to count in Georgia. Biden should garner the majority of the ones left which, I hope, will put him far enough in front to negate a recount.

Perdue is headed for a runoff as John Ossoff improves his position too. The overwhelming message from this is that in the two Senate runoff contests, all Georgia Democrats absolutely must vote by paper ballot, either in-person or by mail, to give both Dem candidates a chance.

O Frabjous Day!

Oops, I forgot this part on my post at [195]

Biden +917

Check comment 186... It's the only time I'm going to beat you to it so I'm making the most of it. :)

Hey! You got me! I wouldn't have posted it again if I had seen it. :)

So on Fox Gingrich advises President Trump to have Bill Barr arrest election workers in Pennsylvania and then have the state legislature throw out the results of the election.

Georgia, Georgia, the whole day through...

That's what I'm talking about. :)

Disclaimer: It's a lead; let's hope he can keep it.
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Now's the part where Donald and the MAGA cult minion mobs reverse course and whine like toddlers about counting all the votes they went to court to sue to stop them from counting. #Pathetic

Oglala Lakota County, SD, was one of
the highest percentages 88.4%
in the Nation to vote for Biden/Harris.
Very Proud of our Oyate...

Man, that was downright apocalyptic.

GA 463? Wow... gotta stay up for a bit...

-CW

Check comment 186... It's the only time I'm going to beat you to it so I'm making the most of it. :)

-463

Will PA report the electronic tally before the mail-in tally is completed?

Anyone know the answer?