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		<title>By: Osborne Ink &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Do You Shame The Shameless?</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12406</link>
		<dc:creator>Osborne Ink &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Do You Shame The Shameless?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 18:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Because despite what we may think, the president got as many hostages out as he could. So the billionaire tax cuts will add more to the deficit than the stimulus bill did &#8212; how does that fact help Democrats? Even if they did hammer Republicans repeatedly, how would it change the situation? Adding four million to the ranks of the 99ers is a prescription for economic debacle, but Republicans are fine with debacle (Iraq, Katrina). Democrats, who never march in lockstep, are weaker than their majority. It is a situation wherein the shameless have all the advantages. As Chris Weigant said: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Because despite what we may think, the president got as many hostages out as he could. So the billionaire tax cuts will add more to the deficit than the stimulus bill did &#8212; how does that fact help Democrats? Even if they did hammer Republicans repeatedly, how would it change the situation? Adding four million to the ranks of the 99ers is a prescription for economic debacle, but Republicans are fine with debacle (Iraq, Katrina). Democrats, who never march in lockstep, are weaker than their majority. It is a situation wherein the shameless have all the advantages. As Chris Weigant said: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12362</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article from Noonan..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703766704576009943102291486.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

Hard to argue the logic..  I don&#039;t think the Democratic Party has a snowball&#039;s chance in hell of being relevant in 2012


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article from Noonan..</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703766704576009943102291486.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703766704576009943102291486.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop</a></p>
<p>Hard to argue the logic..  I don't think the Democratic Party has a snowball's chance in hell of being relevant in 2012</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12349</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 23:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&quot;Fuck the President!!!&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-Unknown Democrat CongressCritter


WOW...

Just... WOW..


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>"Fuck the President!!!"</b><br />
-Unknown Democrat CongressCritter</p>
<p>WOW...</p>
<p>Just... WOW..</p>
<p>Michale....<br />
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12344</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a difference an election makes...  :D

Now it&#039;s the DEMOCRATS who are the &quot;Party Of No&quot;.. :D

&lt;B&gt;House Democrats Reject Tax Plan Unless Changed&lt;/B&gt;
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12353675&amp;tqkw=&amp;tqshow=


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a difference an election makes...  :D</p>
<p>Now it's the DEMOCRATS who are the "Party Of No".. :D</p>
<p><b>House Democrats Reject Tax Plan Unless Changed</b><br />
<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12353675&amp;tqkw=&amp;tqshow=" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12353675&amp;tqkw=&amp;tqshow=</a></p>
<p>Michale.....<br />
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12340</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funniest to date... :D

&lt;B&gt;The average insurgency, the foreign policy experts say, lasts about ten years. The average liberal rebellion against Obama appears to last about a day. The crumbling began early in the day Wednesday, when Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) issued a statement calling the tax deal &quot;the ultimate stimulus plan.&quot; &lt;/B&gt;
-http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/08/AR2010120808215.html


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funniest to date... :D</p>
<p><b>The average insurgency, the foreign policy experts say, lasts about ten years. The average liberal rebellion against Obama appears to last about a day. The crumbling began early in the day Wednesday, when Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) issued a statement calling the tax deal "the ultimate stimulus plan." </b><br />
-http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/08/AR2010120808215.html</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12334</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 00:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I personally would rather have Sarah Palin in there myself ... ;)&lt;/I&gt;

Now yer just teasing me...  :D

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I personally would rather have Sarah Palin in there myself ... ;)</i></p>
<p>Now yer just teasing me...  :D</p>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12333</link>
		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 00:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americulchie-
It&#039;s an interesting coalition that seems to be against the deal. Jim DeMint, Bernie Sanders, and George Voinovich from the Senate. DeMint has threatened to filibuster - though I&#039;m not sure if this is anything more than idle. 

What&#039;s interesting about it is that I think you&#039;re right that the Republicans risk the wrath of a lot of Tea Party folks if they pass this deal. Though I think they&#039;re banking on being able to control the Tea Party. 

Sometimes thinking about the politics of it boggles my mind. Why are we even talking about tax cuts for the rich during this recession?  

&lt;i&gt; If the election were held today, would you vote for Obama or Romney for President? &lt;/i&gt; 

I personally would rather have Sarah Palin in there myself ... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americulchie-<br />
It's an interesting coalition that seems to be against the deal. Jim DeMint, Bernie Sanders, and George Voinovich from the Senate. DeMint has threatened to filibuster - though I'm not sure if this is anything more than idle. </p>
<p>What's interesting about it is that I think you're right that the Republicans risk the wrath of a lot of Tea Party folks if they pass this deal. Though I think they're banking on being able to control the Tea Party. </p>
<p>Sometimes thinking about the politics of it boggles my mind. Why are we even talking about tax cuts for the rich during this recession?  </p>
<p><i> If the election were held today, would you vote for Obama or Romney for President? </i> </p>
<p>I personally would rather have Sarah Palin in there myself ... ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12332</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question for ya&#039;all...

If the election were held today, would you vote for Obama or Romney for President??

Just curious...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question for ya'all...</p>
<p>If the election were held today, would you vote for Obama or Romney for President??</p>
<p>Just curious...</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12330</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;What will be interesting is to see if the rabid right wing will queer this deal.&lt;/I&gt;

What about the rabid Left Wing??  :D


&lt;I&gt;Personally speaking i would have happily gone in with Obama if he had chosen to let the taxes expire.&lt;/I&gt;

Which would have all but guaranteed a Republican President and Congress in 2012..  :D


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What will be interesting is to see if the rabid right wing will queer this deal.</i></p>
<p>What about the rabid Left Wing??  :D</p>
<p><i>Personally speaking i would have happily gone in with Obama if he had chosen to let the taxes expire.</i></p>
<p>Which would have all but guaranteed a Republican President and Congress in 2012..  :D</p>
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		<title>By: Americulchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Americulchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What will be interesting is to see if the rabid right wing will queer this deal.There are too many loose cannons in the de facto right wing coalition not to screw it up.Personally speaking i would have happily gone in with Obama if he had chosen to let the taxes expire.I am just hoping that Jerry Brown will be available for a 2012 draft.I await further developments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will be interesting is to see if the rabid right wing will queer this deal.There are too many loose cannons in the de facto right wing coalition not to screw it up.Personally speaking i would have happily gone in with Obama if he had chosen to let the taxes expire.I am just hoping that Jerry Brown will be available for a 2012 draft.I await further developments.</p>
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		<title>By: Osborne Ink &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Obama You Voted For</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osborne Ink &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Obama You Voted For</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lot of them. My fellow Banter blogger Chris Weigant, who has made note of this fact more than once, pointed something else out last [...]</description>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
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		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Past the halfway point on the fundraiser! That&#039;s great to hear.  

As for the &quot;deal&quot;, I&#039;m going to take a deep breath and try not to have a knee-jerk reaction to this one. 

Similar to health care, I think the larger damage comes from this very simple premise: 

&lt;b&gt; I don&#039;t see what the principles are driving this compromise. Other than possibly pragmatics. &lt;/b&gt;

When Democrats passed health care, I felt that they&#039;d abandoned their principles to reach a compromise. And I think this is what hurt them in the election. 

Here, it&#039;s the same thing. I can&#039;t figure out what Obama stands for. Other than compromise. This is what I feel the Obama administration lacks. 

Ask anyone to identify what principle Obama is acting on and I think you&#039;ll get a lot of confused looks. At this point in his tenure, I have no idea. 

This is not exactly a good characteristic for a leader. It makes it hard to support him and hurts the Democratic party overall when they&#039;re always forced to compromise their principles. 

I&#039;m a big proponent of compromise, but there are ways to do this while still standing on principle. 

In 2008, he stood for something. Now, who knows? 

-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Past the halfway point on the fundraiser! That's great to hear.  </p>
<p>As for the "deal", I'm going to take a deep breath and try not to have a knee-jerk reaction to this one. </p>
<p>Similar to health care, I think the larger damage comes from this very simple premise: </p>
<p><b> I don't see what the principles are driving this compromise. Other than possibly pragmatics. </b></p>
<p>When Democrats passed health care, I felt that they'd abandoned their principles to reach a compromise. And I think this is what hurt them in the election. </p>
<p>Here, it's the same thing. I can't figure out what Obama stands for. Other than compromise. This is what I feel the Obama administration lacks. </p>
<p>Ask anyone to identify what principle Obama is acting on and I think you'll get a lot of confused looks. At this point in his tenure, I have no idea. </p>
<p>This is not exactly a good characteristic for a leader. It makes it hard to support him and hurts the Democratic party overall when they're always forced to compromise their principles. </p>
<p>I'm a big proponent of compromise, but there are ways to do this while still standing on principle. </p>
<p>In 2008, he stood for something. Now, who knows? </p>
<p>-David</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/07/the-deal/#comment-12326</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really have to hand it to the Republicans..

They did an end-run around Democrats, worked with Obama and came out with a deal that addresses practically every concern that the American people have..

The unemployed continue to get their free money, no one&#039;s taxes gets raised and working families actually get a little bonus..

From reports, it&#039;s the DEMOCRATS who are considering punting this deal and letting everything expire..

Yea...  THAT&#039;s a good plan for Democrats...

Sometimes I really wonder if the Democratic Party leadership are really Democrats or Republican are  &quot;Manchurian&quot; plants....

I also agree that putting the Tax Cuts expiration right smack in the middle of the 2012 elections is about as a bonehead move as it could possibly be.

Once again, it&#039;s a win-win for the GOP..   If the economy DOES recover, the GOP can claim it was because of the tax-cuts that the DP fought against tooth-nail...  If the economy doesn&#039;t recover, then the GOP can point to the Democrats in the Senate and the White House and say these guys are simply incapable of governing...

And Joe SixPack will believe it...

Really, the only way for Democrats to win in 2012 is to become Republicans.  :D

On a happier note!  :D

Glad ta see the Fund Drive went past the halfway point!!   Woooot!!!!  :D

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really have to hand it to the Republicans..</p>
<p>They did an end-run around Democrats, worked with Obama and came out with a deal that addresses practically every concern that the American people have..</p>
<p>The unemployed continue to get their free money, no one's taxes gets raised and working families actually get a little bonus..</p>
<p>From reports, it's the DEMOCRATS who are considering punting this deal and letting everything expire..</p>
<p>Yea...  THAT's a good plan for Democrats...</p>
<p>Sometimes I really wonder if the Democratic Party leadership are really Democrats or Republican are  "Manchurian" plants....</p>
<p>I also agree that putting the Tax Cuts expiration right smack in the middle of the 2012 elections is about as a bonehead move as it could possibly be.</p>
<p>Once again, it's a win-win for the GOP..   If the economy DOES recover, the GOP can claim it was because of the tax-cuts that the DP fought against tooth-nail...  If the economy doesn't recover, then the GOP can point to the Democrats in the Senate and the White House and say these guys are simply incapable of governing...</p>
<p>And Joe SixPack will believe it...</p>
<p>Really, the only way for Democrats to win in 2012 is to become Republicans.  :D</p>
<p>On a happier note!  :D</p>
<p>Glad ta see the Fund Drive went past the halfway point!!   Woooot!!!!  :D</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No comments yet?

Allow me to break the ice...

I think:

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m reluctant to do so right away because I have a profound distrust of knee-jerk reactions from anyone -- &lt;/em&gt;myself&lt;em&gt; included.&lt;/em&gt;

was actually a rather profound statement in and of itself.  I&#039;m not one for false modesty, so allow me to say that that sums up a lot, for me.

In slightly-less-egotistical news, we&#039;ve broken through halfway on the holiday pledge drive!  Woo hoo!

I will be posting these sorts of updates regularly from now until the end of the year, both in the comment section for the most-recent article, as well as on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/02/our-holiday-fundraiser-kicks-off/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Holiday Pledge Drive Kickoff&quot;&lt;/a&gt; article comment page, just to let everyone know.  Check back frequently to see updates!

:-)

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No comments yet?</p>
<p>Allow me to break the ice...</p>
<p>I think:</p>
<p><em>I'm reluctant to do so right away because I have a profound distrust of knee-jerk reactions from anyone -- </em>myself<em> included.</em></p>
<p>was actually a rather profound statement in and of itself.  I'm not one for false modesty, so allow me to say that that sums up a lot, for me.</p>
<p>In slightly-less-egotistical news, we've broken through halfway on the holiday pledge drive!  Woo hoo!</p>
<p>I will be posting these sorts of updates regularly from now until the end of the year, both in the comment section for the most-recent article, as well as on the <a href="http://www.chrisweigant.com/2010/12/02/our-holiday-fundraiser-kicks-off/#comments" rel="nofollow">"Holiday Pledge Drive Kickoff"</a> article comment page, just to let everyone know.  Check back frequently to see updates!</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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