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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 22:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nypoet22
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&lt;i&gt;Until he was assassinated, the only thing I knew about him is that he was a Conservative media personality of some sort. &lt;/i&gt;

Exactly... one in a long line of right-wing personalities with shows/podcasts/platforms who seem to be in a contest amongst each other to keep things stirred up in America via their provocative views... meanwhile they laugh all the way to the bank pocketing the money: Bannon, Patel, Bongino, the recently murdered Kirk... I could go on and on. 

Obviously, not a single person in America should be murdered for exercising their First Amendment right to voice their provocative views (regardless of political ideology), but it should be noted that no one owes anyone else a platform on which to voice hatred and that freedom of speech does not equate to freedom from the consequences of free speech.

&lt;i&gt;Now he&#039;s a martyr. &lt;/i&gt;

I suppose he&#039;s a martyr to the crowd who made fun of Paul Pelosi and endless jokes while generally ignoring the murders and attempted murders of state representatives (as you mentioned) and multiple Democratic governors and who whitewashed the events of January 6 and repeatedly call for civil war. The fish rots from the head. 

How many times has Donald Trump attempted to make a martyr out of Ashli Babbitt, the woman who was killed by a police officer on 1/6, who warned her and multiple others repeatedly? Expect Trump and the right wing to whitewash Kirk&#039;s language and attempt to make a Christian martyr out of him and martyr for their political agenda... similar to Horst Wessel. Those who don&#039;t know who Horst Wessel was, do yourself a favor and look him up.</description>
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<p><i>Until he was assassinated, the only thing I knew about him is that he was a Conservative media personality of some sort. </i></p>
<p>Exactly... one in a long line of right-wing personalities with shows/podcasts/platforms who seem to be in a contest amongst each other to keep things stirred up in America via their provocative views... meanwhile they laugh all the way to the bank pocketing the money: Bannon, Patel, Bongino, the recently murdered Kirk... I could go on and on. </p>
<p>Obviously, not a single person in America should be murdered for exercising their First Amendment right to voice their provocative views (regardless of political ideology), but it should be noted that no one owes anyone else a platform on which to voice hatred and that freedom of speech does not equate to freedom from the consequences of free speech.</p>
<p><i>Now he's a martyr. </i></p>
<p>I suppose he's a martyr to the crowd who made fun of Paul Pelosi and endless jokes while generally ignoring the murders and attempted murders of state representatives (as you mentioned) and multiple Democratic governors and who whitewashed the events of January 6 and repeatedly call for civil war. The fish rots from the head. </p>
<p>How many times has Donald Trump attempted to make a martyr out of Ashli Babbitt, the woman who was killed by a police officer on 1/6, who warned her and multiple others repeatedly? Expect Trump and the right wing to whitewash Kirk's language and attempt to make a Christian martyr out of him and martyr for their political agenda... similar to Horst Wessel. Those who don't know who Horst Wessel was, do yourself a favor and look him up.</p>
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		<title>By: John M from Ct.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M from Ct.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 01:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nyp22 on [9]

Exactly. I&#039;d barely heard of this guy before he was shot, and now he&#039;s the nation&#039;s martyr or something.

Now, the same could be said of other cases of political murder or oppression - we&#039;d &quot;never heard of them&quot; before the fatal event: George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, etc. could be examples from the left side. It&#039;s the death and its circumstances, not the status or fame of the victim, that can activate a national reaction.

But along with the violent death I feel we should reckon with the ethics and context of the crime and its victim. Was he/she &quot;innocent&quot;? Was the perpetrator/murderer standing for a larger cause or party, and if so which one, to whom blame might be assigned?

With Kirk, the immediate reaction of his fans on the right was that the perpetrator was on the left, symbolizing the left&#039;s unending resort to violence and murder, etc. etc. There was no evidence yet, but that was the universal reaction from the president on down, through the FBI and the Congress, to the right-wing media.

And now, as it seems, ... well, it&#039;s not so clear. Pending further revelations, the murderer seems to have been on the right, so far to the right he saw Kirk as &#039;not right enough&#039; and so deserving of death.

A martyr? If so, perhaps a martyr to some demented definition of &#039;moderation&#039; - &#039;moderation&#039; in the sense of not being completely, utterly, fanatically devoted to the cause of White Christian nationalism despite any number of bigoted, racist, and violence-endorsing statements!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nyp22 on [9]</p>
<p>Exactly. I'd barely heard of this guy before he was shot, and now he's the nation's martyr or something.</p>
<p>Now, the same could be said of other cases of political murder or oppression - we'd "never heard of them" before the fatal event: George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, etc. could be examples from the left side. It's the death and its circumstances, not the status or fame of the victim, that can activate a national reaction.</p>
<p>But along with the violent death I feel we should reckon with the ethics and context of the crime and its victim. Was he/she "innocent"? Was the perpetrator/murderer standing for a larger cause or party, and if so which one, to whom blame might be assigned?</p>
<p>With Kirk, the immediate reaction of his fans on the right was that the perpetrator was on the left, symbolizing the left's unending resort to violence and murder, etc. etc. There was no evidence yet, but that was the universal reaction from the president on down, through the FBI and the Congress, to the right-wing media.</p>
<p>And now, as it seems, ... well, it's not so clear. Pending further revelations, the murderer seems to have been on the right, so far to the right he saw Kirk as 'not right enough' and so deserving of death.</p>
<p>A martyr? If so, perhaps a martyr to some demented definition of 'moderation' - 'moderation' in the sense of not being completely, utterly, fanatically devoted to the cause of White Christian nationalism despite any number of bigoted, racist, and violence-endorsing statements!</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 17:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until he was assassinated, the only thing I knew about him is that he was a Conservative media personality of some sort. Now he&#039;s a martyr.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until he was assassinated, the only thing I knew about him is that he was a Conservative media personality of some sort. Now he's a martyr.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 15:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget he flipped on releasing the Epstein files. It could just as likely be a disillusioned follower like the would be Trump assassin.

The guy grifted on hate. I&#039;ll give him the exact amount of consideration he gave members of the left who suffered violence...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's not forget he flipped on releasing the Epstein files. It could just as likely be a disillusioned follower like the would be Trump assassin.</p>
<p>The guy grifted on hate. I'll give him the exact amount of consideration he gave members of the left who suffered violence...</p>
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		<title>By: John From Censornati</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 14:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie had just said something about trans people seconds before he was shot. I expect that the cancervative entertainment complex will work with that since MAGA is already talking about banning trans people from owning guns as if that would put a dent in the problem. There is one group we could ban from gun ownership and see good results. Men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie had just said something about trans people seconds before he was shot. I expect that the cancervative entertainment complex will work with that since MAGA is already talking about banning trans people from owning guns as if that would put a dent in the problem. There is one group we could ban from gun ownership and see good results. Men.</p>
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		<title>By: John From Censornati</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that Charlie was a &quot;second amendment&quot; absolutist, so I won&#039;t lose any sleep over his murder. 

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

I&#039;m weary of this gun insanity. The media barely covered the school shooting yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that Charlie was a "second amendment" absolutist, so I won't lose any sleep over his murder. </p>
<p>Live by the sword, die by the sword.</p>
<p>I'm weary of this gun insanity. The media barely covered the school shooting yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 04:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Because if they don&#039;t denounce such violence from their own side -- in equally condemnatory language -- &lt;b&gt;then they are simply not sincere in their condemnation of all political violence. &lt;/b&gt;Because while political violence does indeed happen from both sides of the political spectrum, the only times it is universally condemned are times like today, when the victim was a conservative. And that needs to change.&lt;/i&gt;












And Repugs being insincere is somehow a problem for these guys? Heck, the concepts of shame and hypocrisy are not words in the Republican vocabulary anymore. Nor law and order. They don’t care what the majority thinks anymore because they want to &lt;b&gt;rule&lt;/b&gt; not &lt;b&gt;represent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Because if they don't denounce such violence from their own side -- in equally condemnatory language -- <b>then they are simply not sincere in their condemnation of all political violence. </b>Because while political violence does indeed happen from both sides of the political spectrum, the only times it is universally condemned are times like today, when the victim was a conservative. And that needs to change.</i></p>
<p>And Repugs being insincere is somehow a problem for these guys? Heck, the concepts of shame and hypocrisy are not words in the Republican vocabulary anymore. Nor law and order. They don’t care what the majority thinks anymore because they want to <b>rule</b> not <b>represent.</b></p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 04:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; They say that such rhetoric is so apocalyptic that it influences deranged people who become lone-wolf killers (or attempted killers). &lt;/i&gt;










Yeah? You’re saying that both sides are to blame when Repugs going back to Newt Gingrich have embraced scorched earth politics (and now with Trump, political violence)? Are Dems supposed to soft pedal the Nazi shit going on just because it might distress the whackos on the far right? News flash: the whackos don’t need provocation and likely never listen to the blue side in the first place. I wonder why the 2024 Dems didn’t remind America of Covid (bodies in refrigerated truck) and January 6th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> They say that such rhetoric is so apocalyptic that it influences deranged people who become lone-wolf killers (or attempted killers). </i></p>
<p>Yeah? You’re saying that both sides are to blame when Repugs going back to Newt Gingrich have embraced scorched earth politics (and now with Trump, political violence)? Are Dems supposed to soft pedal the Nazi shit going on just because it might distress the whackos on the far right? News flash: the whackos don’t need provocation and likely never listen to the blue side in the first place. I wonder why the 2024 Dems didn’t remind America of Covid (bodies in refrigerated truck) and January 6th.</p>
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		<title>By: John M from Ct.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 03:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points. Everyone is condemning this political murder of a right-wing incendiary. Everyone, both left and right, as far as I can tell.
But -- as you say -- when and if (God forbid) a left-wing icon is hurt or worse, will &#039;everyone&#039; - both left and right - condemn the equally vile act? I&#039;m not seeing it, based on past results. SAD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. Everyone is condemning this political murder of a right-wing incendiary. Everyone, both left and right, as far as I can tell.<br />
But -- as you say -- when and if (God forbid) a left-wing icon is hurt or worse, will 'everyone' - both left and right - condemn the equally vile act? I'm not seeing it, based on past results. SAD!</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 01:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too soon. we should probably discuss Melissa Hortman as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too soon. we should probably discuss Melissa Hortman as well.</p>
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		<title>By: John From Censornati</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 01:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fat Donny&#039;s increasingly desperate attempts to distract from his pedophile problem are becoming extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat Donny's increasingly desperate attempts to distract from his pedophile problem are becoming extreme.</p>
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