Comments on: The Pros And Cons Of Attacking Iran http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/ Reality-based political commentary Sat, 04 Apr 2026 02:58:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: John M from Ct. http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220394 John M from Ct. Sun, 22 Jun 2025 02:33:13 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220394 And there we go. Two weeks be damned. Tonight (June 21) we learn that the U.S. has bombed the Iranian nuclear facilities with our infamous 'bunker bombs' delivered by the B-2 bomber planes. The unofficial word is that the sites have been destroyed or taken out. Iran, as I follow the story, has not committed to a response, except to note that the U.S. has no right to station its forces in the Middle-eastern regions. And thus are potential targets by Iranian forces. Which makes sense, because we are now at war with the Islamic Republic of Iran. At war - where anything goes, if you think you can get away with it. At war - lacking any Congressional approval or vote. What ever happened to the constitutional provision that Congress shall declare a state of war with a foreign enemy? We have attacked Iran, clearly an act of war. Under what authority, Mr. President? And there we go. Two weeks be damned. Tonight (June 21) we learn that the U.S. has bombed the Iranian nuclear facilities with our infamous 'bunker bombs' delivered by the B-2 bomber planes. The unofficial word is that the sites have been destroyed or taken out.
Iran, as I follow the story, has not committed to a response, except to note that the U.S. has no right to station its forces in the Middle-eastern regions. And thus are potential targets by Iranian forces.
Which makes sense, because we are now at war with the Islamic Republic of Iran. At war - where anything goes, if you think you can get away with it. At war - lacking any Congressional approval or vote.
What ever happened to the constitutional provision that Congress shall declare a state of war with a foreign enemy? We have attacked Iran, clearly an act of war. Under what authority, Mr. President?

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220371 Kick Thu, 19 Jun 2025 23:33:38 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220371 John From Censornati 10 <i>Once again, Dementia Man says he'll let us know in <b>two weeks</b>. </i> Two weeks!? Hasn't this "two weeks" absolute garbage become such a recognizable line of bullshit at this point that there ought to be an actual name for it!? *thinking* Okay, got it: <b>F</b>ortnight <b>U</b>nrealistic <b>C</b>ognitive <b>D</b>isorder a.k.a. FUCD. John From Censornati
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Once again, Dementia Man says he'll let us know in two weeks.

Two weeks!? Hasn't this "two weeks" absolute garbage become such a recognizable line of bullshit at this point that there ought to be an actual name for it!? *thinking*

Okay, got it: Fortnight Unrealistic Cognitive Disorder a.k.a. FUCD.

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220368 Kick Thu, 19 Jun 2025 23:01:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220368 Correct me if I'm confused, but wasn't it about a month or so ago that Fat Donny stood on the stage of a ballroom in Saudi Arabia and claimed the United States was out of the business of "giving you lectures on how to live" and stated in no uncertain terms that America was finished intervening and nation-building? As if. Correct me if I'm confused, but wasn't it about a month or so ago that Fat Donny stood on the stage of a ballroom in Saudi Arabia and claimed the United States was out of the business of "giving you lectures on how to live" and stated in no uncertain terms that America was finished intervening and nation-building?

As if.

]]> By: John From Censornati http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220366 John From Censornati Thu, 19 Jun 2025 19:16:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220366 Once again, Dementia Man says he'll let us know in <b>two weeks</b>. Once again, Dementia Man says he'll let us know in two weeks.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220365 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:32:15 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220365 Chris, <i>There are also good arguments to be made against launching such an attack. The biggest of these is avoiding getting directly entangled in a regional war in the Middle East.</i> Yes, because the US has had such success in its military campaigns in the Middle East ...often at the prodding of the Israeli government, I should hasten to add. ;) Time and again, America fails to understand that its interests in the region DO NOT align with those of the Netanyahu regime. Chris,

There are also good arguments to be made against launching such an attack. The biggest of these is avoiding getting directly entangled in a regional war in the Middle East.

Yes, because the US has had such success in its military campaigns in the Middle East ...often at the prodding of the Israeli government, I should hasten to add. ;)

Time and again, America fails to understand that its interests in the region DO NOT align with those of the Netanyahu regime.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220363 nypoet22 Thu, 19 Jun 2025 11:31:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220363 sunni and shia are just two massive categories, like Catholic and Protestant sunni and shia are just two massive categories, like Catholic and Protestant

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220361 MtnCaddy Thu, 19 Jun 2025 05:47:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220361 Poet, for the record I remain a staunch Zionist. I still don’t think a two-state solution would be anything but national suicide for Israel and I don’t have the slightest problem with Israel’s air campaign I just don’t think we Muricans need to step in. Poet, for the record I remain a staunch Zionist. I still don’t think a two-state solution would be anything but national suicide for Israel and I don’t have the slightest problem with Israel’s air campaign I just don’t think we Muricans need to step in.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220360 MtnCaddy Thu, 19 Jun 2025 05:42:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220360 I strongly disagree that there is ANY good argument for unprovoked military action. It’s morally wrong, it’s unconstitutional and could provide Trump a limited “rally ‘round the flag” boost. Speaking of Iran I’ve long wondered why we’re on the Saudi side in this 1200 year old Sunni-Shia civil war. You know, the Saudi Arabia that financed 9-11, supplied all but four of the hijackers, doesn’t even want their women to drive (let alone vote!). On the other hand <b>we owe Iran for overthrowing their democratically elected government in 1953 and installing the Shah in its place. Yeah, a democratically ELECTED government. </b>They are culturally/socially at least a century ahead of the Saudis and most of the decidedly undemocratic Muslim world. I’ve read the Quran and a Sunni Hadith and if I had to choose I’d choose Shia in a heartbeat. I strongly disagree that there is ANY good argument for unprovoked military action. It’s morally wrong, it’s unconstitutional and could provide Trump a limited “rally ‘round the flag” boost.

Speaking of Iran I’ve long wondered why we’re on the Saudi side in this 1200 year old Sunni-Shia civil war. You know, the Saudi Arabia that financed 9-11, supplied all but four of the hijackers, doesn’t even want their women to drive (let alone vote!).

On the other hand we owe Iran for overthrowing their democratically elected government in 1953 and installing the Shah in its place. Yeah, a democratically ELECTED government. They are culturally/socially at least a century ahead of the Saudis and most of the decidedly undemocratic Muslim world.

I’ve read the Quran and a Sunni Hadith and if I had to choose I’d choose Shia in a heartbeat.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220359 MtnCaddy Thu, 19 Jun 2025 05:27:47 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220359 <i> We have the ability to easily wipe out the one that remains.</i> The facility is far deeper than what one of these MOPs can penetrate so it would require one after another — each going farther down the hole each preceding bomb created. Our tech is up to the task but it’s not as easy as you think. We have the ability to easily wipe out the one that remains.

The facility is far deeper than what one of these MOPs can penetrate so it would require one after another — each going farther down the hole each preceding bomb created. Our tech is up to the task but it’s not as easy as you think.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220358 nypoet22 Thu, 19 Jun 2025 03:27:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220358 apropos to nothing in particular, how is Andrew Cuomo still running for office in new york? granted, mayor is a step down from governor, but our options don't seem to be getting much better. apropos to nothing in particular, how is Andrew Cuomo still running for office in new york? granted, mayor is a step down from governor, but our options don't seem to be getting much better.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220357 nypoet22 Thu, 19 Jun 2025 02:24:47 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220357 Donald chickens out economically, not militarily. he's the president who ordered an assassination of general Qasem Soleimani Donald chickens out economically, not militarily. he's the president who ordered an assassination of general Qasem Soleimani

]]> By: John M from Ct. http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220356 John M from Ct. Thu, 19 Jun 2025 01:18:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220356 Good points on both sides, of course. I am interested in the idea that we should not allow the president to attack with B-2 bombers a foreign country that we are not at war with, and which has not attacked us. It's especially dubious to go to war on an issue like nuclear proliferation where we (specifically Trump himself), not they, abandoned the treaty that we had with them not to weaponize their nuclear program. Now, I know most Americans don't follow Iranian or nuclear diplomacy, and the Iranians have a shifty reputation with us going back to the 1979 hostage crisis. But we are talking an actual war here - as you say, the Iranians may be down but they are not out, and it's their neighborhood not ours that we'll be fighting in. Who knows what will follow, in terms of highly legitimate blowback from a government that's been bombed by a nation they had no outstanding quarrel with? Could the president use this opening to, as you suggest, negotiate a new anti-nuclear treaty in return for our NOT bombing their underground site? Maybe - but nothing in the entire history of Trump's presidential career suggests that he or his people are capable of achieving such a diplomatic/military triumph. My only hope at this point is TACO - Trump Always Chickens Out. Israel has done a lot of damage to Iran's nuclear program without our aid, and maybe Trump will decide that that's enough for now, rather than leading American into another Middle-eastern quagmire war with no obvious endgame. Good points on both sides, of course.

I am interested in the idea that we should not allow the president to attack with B-2 bombers a foreign country that we are not at war with, and which has not attacked us. It's especially dubious to go to war on an issue like nuclear proliferation where we (specifically Trump himself), not they, abandoned the treaty that we had with them not to weaponize their nuclear program.

Now, I know most Americans don't follow Iranian or nuclear diplomacy, and the Iranians have a shifty reputation with us going back to the 1979 hostage crisis. But we are talking an actual war here - as you say, the Iranians may be down but they are not out, and it's their neighborhood not ours that we'll be fighting in. Who knows what will follow, in terms of highly legitimate blowback from a government that's been bombed by a nation they had no outstanding quarrel with?

Could the president use this opening to, as you suggest, negotiate a new anti-nuclear treaty in return for our NOT bombing their underground site? Maybe - but nothing in the entire history of Trump's presidential career suggests that he or his people are capable of achieving such a diplomatic/military triumph.

My only hope at this point is TACO - Trump Always Chickens Out. Israel has done a lot of damage to Iran's nuclear program without our aid, and maybe Trump will decide that that's enough for now, rather than leading American into another Middle-eastern quagmire war with no obvious endgame.

]]> By: John From Censornati http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/06/18/the-pros-and-cons-of-attacking-iran/#comment-220355 John From Censornati Thu, 19 Jun 2025 00:09:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=26501#comment-220355 Fat Donny's bloodlust will not allow him to not attack. He's concocting the lies he'll tell to say that he did and he didn't do it. That's the delay. Fat Donny's bloodlust will not allow him to not attack. He's concocting the lies he'll tell to say that he did and he didn't do it. That's the delay.

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