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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213296</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All due respect, Americans don&#039;t understand Americans. ;)</description>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213272</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth Miller

All due respect, you clearly do NOT understand Americans.</description>
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<p>All due respect, you clearly do NOT understand Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213179</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the exit polls are correct and &quot;it&#039;s the economy, stupid&quot;, I think the democrats should be quite bullish on the midterms. Tariffs are just dumb. Republicans taxing the crap out of businesses. Interesting change of strategy. If the countries don&#039;t immediately buckle under, they will likely impose tariffs right back making our place as second largest exporter in the world quite shaky. Hard to grow manufacturing when you make exports more expensive thus reducing customers. 30% of our food is imported. Some are crops that don&#039;t grow in winter in the US. Some of it we can&#039;t grow here at all. Hawaii will not support America&#039;s caffeine habit as one example. Cocoa beans and tea being other major crops we are just not in the right latitude to grow. Add to that, massive uptick in unemployment due to cutting the federal government by 75%. The federal government is this countries largest employer. 2.7 million people. Just how many does Musk and Ramaswamy plan to fire? 75% would be over 2 million. Then who is going to pick the crops and do a lot of construction? Those government employees with mortgages and car payments certainly aren&#039;t. Then are the Hispanics going to vote republican again after the military comes into their communities hauling people off to put in camps? Bad optics there. Are the muslim supporters going to vote republican after Trump gives Israel a free hand to kick the Palestinians out of Gaza? 

Even if Trumps ideas had a chance of working, they would not in the 21 months that he needs them too. I&#039;ve helped bring up manufacturing lines. It takes a long time and that&#039;s in buildings already set up for it. If the building has to be built or completely retrofitted, not a chance in hell...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the exit polls are correct and "it's the economy, stupid", I think the democrats should be quite bullish on the midterms. Tariffs are just dumb. Republicans taxing the crap out of businesses. Interesting change of strategy. If the countries don't immediately buckle under, they will likely impose tariffs right back making our place as second largest exporter in the world quite shaky. Hard to grow manufacturing when you make exports more expensive thus reducing customers. 30% of our food is imported. Some are crops that don't grow in winter in the US. Some of it we can't grow here at all. Hawaii will not support America's caffeine habit as one example. Cocoa beans and tea being other major crops we are just not in the right latitude to grow. Add to that, massive uptick in unemployment due to cutting the federal government by 75%. The federal government is this countries largest employer. 2.7 million people. Just how many does Musk and Ramaswamy plan to fire? 75% would be over 2 million. Then who is going to pick the crops and do a lot of construction? Those government employees with mortgages and car payments certainly aren't. Then are the Hispanics going to vote republican again after the military comes into their communities hauling people off to put in camps? Bad optics there. Are the muslim supporters going to vote republican after Trump gives Israel a free hand to kick the Palestinians out of Gaza? </p>
<p>Even if Trumps ideas had a chance of working, they would not in the 21 months that he needs them too. I've helped bring up manufacturing lines. It takes a long time and that's in buildings already set up for it. If the building has to be built or completely retrofitted, not a chance in hell...</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213177</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You mean like that???&lt;/i&gt;

First, Trump is a special case as he has pet insults for everyone so I think tossing them back at him is fair game. Second my Trump name calling is rare and orders of magnitude less than your dumb slurs. 

I answered your question just not in the way you want. It was also before your current yes/no format.  Still better then you avoiding questions. Like when are you going to explain how great Trump&#039;s tariffs will be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You mean like that???</i></p>
<p>First, Trump is a special case as he has pet insults for everyone so I think tossing them back at him is fair game. Second my Trump name calling is rare and orders of magnitude less than your dumb slurs. </p>
<p>I answered your question just not in the way you want. It was also before your current yes/no format.  Still better then you avoiding questions. Like when are you going to explain how great Trump's tariffs will be?</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213176</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Wow, you can lie and call people names. Talk about American hating and unpatriotic behavior...&lt;/I&gt;

You mean like you just engaged in name-calling with President ELLECT Trump??

You mean like that???

:eyeroll:

For the record, you DIDN&#039;T answer my question.. So you lied when you claimed you did..

What part of YES/NO answer ONLY did you not understand??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wow, you can lie and call people names. Talk about American hating and unpatriotic behavior...</i></p>
<p>You mean like you just engaged in name-calling with President ELLECT Trump??</p>
<p>You mean like that???</p>
<p>:eyeroll:</p>
<p>For the record, you DIDN'T answer my question.. So you lied when you claimed you did..</p>
<p>What part of YES/NO answer ONLY did you not understand??</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213175</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dollar store Mussolini&quot; ring a bell as well as a couple of posts directly addressing fascism/authoritarianism...

Wow, you can lie and call people names. Talk about American hating and unpatriotic behavior...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Dollar store Mussolini" ring a bell as well as a couple of posts directly addressing fascism/authoritarianism...</p>
<p>Wow, you can lie and call people names. Talk about American hating and unpatriotic behavior...</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213174</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;As to [22] I already answered those questions. If you don&#039;t remember the answer, then, oh well...&lt;/I&gt;

Ahh yes, your old standby lie..

Claim to have already answered which allows you to not answer..

Coward..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As to [22] I already answered those questions. If you don't remember the answer, then, oh well...</i></p>
<p>Ahh yes, your old standby lie..</p>
<p>Claim to have already answered which allows you to not answer..</p>
<p>Coward..</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213173</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;According to you and your Democrats, that had already happened.&lt;/i&gt;

I am not a registered democrat and as much as you spew this bs you have not backed it up. Who said it? I have not...

As to [22] I already answered those questions. If you don&#039;t remember the answer, then, oh well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>According to you and your Democrats, that had already happened.</i></p>
<p>I am not a registered democrat and as much as you spew this bs you have not backed it up. Who said it? I have not...</p>
<p>As to [22] I already answered those questions. If you don't remember the answer, then, oh well...</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213172</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of that.. I am going to bring a question I asked in the previous commentary forward because I REALLY want an answer...

So can I get a definitive YES/NO answer now??

IS President ELECT Trump the second coming of Hitler??

IS President ELECT Trump a fascist?

IS President ELECT Trump going to destroy democracy and cancel elections??

Yes?? Or No???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of that.. I am going to bring a question I asked in the previous commentary forward because I REALLY want an answer...</p>
<p>So can I get a definitive YES/NO answer now??</p>
<p>IS President ELECT Trump the second coming of Hitler??</p>
<p>IS President ELECT Trump a fascist?</p>
<p>IS President ELECT Trump going to destroy democracy and cancel elections??</p>
<p>Yes?? Or No???</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213171</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bashi,

&lt;I&gt;My personal stand is once the government is no longer a constitutional republic run by the rule of law with free and fair elections, my social contact with said government ends.&lt;/I&gt;

According to you and your Democrats, that had already happened.

According to you and your Democrats we now have a fascist Hitler taking office in Jan of 2025..

So, yer social contract is gone..

What ya gonna do about it??

&lt;B&gt;&quot;... so what I am going to do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!&lt;/B&gt;
-Jim Carrey, LIAR LIAR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bashi,</p>
<p><i>My personal stand is once the government is no longer a constitutional republic run by the rule of law with free and fair elections, my social contact with said government ends.</i></p>
<p>According to you and your Democrats, that had already happened.</p>
<p>According to you and your Democrats we now have a fascist Hitler taking office in Jan of 2025..</p>
<p>So, yer social contract is gone..</p>
<p>What ya gonna do about it??</p>
<p><b>"... so what I am going to do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!</b><br />
-Jim Carrey, LIAR LIAR</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213170</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz,


&lt;I&gt;If Dems don&#039;t learn the right lessons about their election defeat in this presidential election cycle and they keep doing things the way they have been, year after 
year after decade after decade and they keep talking non-stop about Trump over the next four years to the virtual exclusion of the really existential issues for people, then they will have gone a long way toward increasing the downward spiral of the country as opposed to working to swing the pendulum in a better direction.&lt;/I&gt;

Exactly..

It goes to what I said in #18 above..

If Democrats refuse to look in the mirror and consider the very real possibility that they are wrong, they will continue to lose elections.

Oh sure.. They might chalk up a win or two in a battle here and there..  But they will eventually lose the war..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz,</p>
<p><i>If Dems don't learn the right lessons about their election defeat in this presidential election cycle and they keep doing things the way they have been, year after<br />
year after decade after decade and they keep talking non-stop about Trump over the next four years to the virtual exclusion of the really existential issues for people, then they will have gone a long way toward increasing the downward spiral of the country as opposed to working to swing the pendulum in a better direction.</i></p>
<p>Exactly..</p>
<p>It goes to what I said in #18 above..</p>
<p>If Democrats refuse to look in the mirror and consider the very real possibility that they are wrong, they will continue to lose elections.</p>
<p>Oh sure.. They might chalk up a win or two in a battle here and there..  But they will eventually lose the war..</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213169</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL,

&lt;I&gt;perhaps, but what about michale&#039;s point that republicans after abolishing the filibuster might then establish permanent one-party rule and restrict democratic elections? i don&#039;t think it would really go that way, but can we discount the possibility?&lt;/I&gt;

It could very easily go that way..

Suppose Democrats HAD been able to get rid of the Filibuster when they controlled the White House, the Senate and the House.

They could have rammed thru amnesty for illegals and viola&#039;..

20 Million fresh &quot;Americans&quot; who don&#039;t understand anything beyond Democrats are giving them free money and will always vote to keep their Sugar Uncle in power.. 

A HUGE voting block that will continue to grow as Democrats open the borders even wider for a constant supply of fresh slaves for the Democrat plantation.

And THAT is why Democrats are so desperate to get rid of the filibuster...

You honestly don&#039;t see how that could happen??

Why not??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL,</p>
<p><i>perhaps, but what about michale's point that republicans after abolishing the filibuster might then establish permanent one-party rule and restrict democratic elections? i don't think it would really go that way, but can we discount the possibility?</i></p>
<p>It could very easily go that way..</p>
<p>Suppose Democrats HAD been able to get rid of the Filibuster when they controlled the White House, the Senate and the House.</p>
<p>They could have rammed thru amnesty for illegals and viola'..</p>
<p>20 Million fresh "Americans" who don't understand anything beyond Democrats are giving them free money and will always vote to keep their Sugar Uncle in power.. </p>
<p>A HUGE voting block that will continue to grow as Democrats open the borders even wider for a constant supply of fresh slaves for the Democrat plantation.</p>
<p>And THAT is why Democrats are so desperate to get rid of the filibuster...</p>
<p>You honestly don't see how that could happen??</p>
<p>Why not??</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213168</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;that&#039;s just false. individual voters are not stupid. however, voters as a group collectively are ABSOLUTELY stupid.&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;B&gt;&quot;A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-Agent K, MEN IN BLACK

:D

&lt;I&gt;it&#039;s just a statistical fact.&lt;/I&gt;


&lt;B&gt;&quot;There are lies.  Then there are damn lies.  And THEN there are statistics.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-Samuel Clemmons

Yunno, we go thru this every time Democrats get creamed and it&#039;s all so pointless..

It&#039;s not ya&#039;all&#039;s MESSAGING that is the problem.. Ya&#039;all plaster yer &quot;messages&quot; out to the general voting just fine..

The problem is, the problem that ya&#039;all REFUSE to accept as factual is that AMERICANS DON&#039;T LIKE YOUR MESSAGE..  

Democrats are getting their message out just fine.. 

AMERICANS simply don&#039;t LIKE the Democrat&#039;s message..  AMERICANS simply don&#039;t WANT the Democrats&#039; message..

Until ya&#039;all learn that one simple, yet crucial fact, ya&#039;all will continue to lose elections..

Put another way...

I was on record for the last few months saying that Democrats SIMPLY CAN&#039;T WIN in 2024.  I said it when Biden was the candidate and I said it when Harris was the candidate.

If I HAD been wrong... If Harris had beat President Trump with such a HUGE Margin in both the Electoral Vote and in the POPULAR VOTE...

If THAT had happened??  I would be seriously looking in the mirror right now and saying to myself,  &lt;B&gt;&quot;Self?? Yunno.. Maybe *I* am wrong.. Maybe it&#039;s MY politics that are the problem..&quot;&lt;/B&gt;

You and your Democrats are simply INCAPABLE of doing that sort of deep self-reflection..

And THAT is why America is a Center Right (or maybe closer to Right Center) country..

Until such time as you and the Democrats can accomplish that sort of deep self-reflection.  Ya&#039;all will continue to lose...

But to self-reflect to the level needed, ya&#039;all will have to overcome your PTDS and your Trump/America hate..

And THAT will likely never happen in my lifetime..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>that's just false. individual voters are not stupid. however, voters as a group collectively are ABSOLUTELY stupid.</i></p>
<p><b>"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet."</b><br />
-Agent K, MEN IN BLACK</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p><i>it's just a statistical fact.</i></p>
<p><b>"There are lies.  Then there are damn lies.  And THEN there are statistics."</b><br />
-Samuel Clemmons</p>
<p>Yunno, we go thru this every time Democrats get creamed and it's all so pointless..</p>
<p>It's not ya'all's MESSAGING that is the problem.. Ya'all plaster yer "messages" out to the general voting just fine..</p>
<p>The problem is, the problem that ya'all REFUSE to accept as factual is that AMERICANS DON'T LIKE YOUR MESSAGE..  </p>
<p>Democrats are getting their message out just fine.. </p>
<p>AMERICANS simply don't LIKE the Democrat's message..  AMERICANS simply don't WANT the Democrats' message..</p>
<p>Until ya'all learn that one simple, yet crucial fact, ya'all will continue to lose elections..</p>
<p>Put another way...</p>
<p>I was on record for the last few months saying that Democrats SIMPLY CAN'T WIN in 2024.  I said it when Biden was the candidate and I said it when Harris was the candidate.</p>
<p>If I HAD been wrong... If Harris had beat President Trump with such a HUGE Margin in both the Electoral Vote and in the POPULAR VOTE...</p>
<p>If THAT had happened??  I would be seriously looking in the mirror right now and saying to myself,  <b>"Self?? Yunno.. Maybe *I* am wrong.. Maybe it's MY politics that are the problem.."</b></p>
<p>You and your Democrats are simply INCAPABLE of doing that sort of deep self-reflection..</p>
<p>And THAT is why America is a Center Right (or maybe closer to Right Center) country..</p>
<p>Until such time as you and the Democrats can accomplish that sort of deep self-reflection.  Ya'all will continue to lose...</p>
<p>But to self-reflect to the level needed, ya'all will have to overcome your PTDS and your Trump/America hate..</p>
<p>And THAT will likely never happen in my lifetime..</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213166</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One final point, if I may, in the immediate aftermath of the 2024 presidential election ...

If Dems don&#039;t learn the right lessons about their election defeat in this presidential election cycle and they keep doing things the way they have been, year after year after decade after decade and they keep talking non-stop about Trump over the next four years to the virtual exclusion of the really existential issues for people, then they will have gone a long way toward increasing the downward spiral of the country as opposed to working to swing the pendulum in a better direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One final point, if I may, in the immediate aftermath of the 2024 presidential election ...</p>
<p>If Dems don't learn the right lessons about their election defeat in this presidential election cycle and they keep doing things the way they have been, year after year after decade after decade and they keep talking non-stop about Trump over the next four years to the virtual exclusion of the really existential issues for people, then they will have gone a long way toward increasing the downward spiral of the country as opposed to working to swing the pendulum in a better direction.</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
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		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with permanently fixing elections to a single party is only a quarter of those eligible to vote voted for Trump. Of those, only a fraction would support extreme action. It&#039;s a big question what the non-voters would do if you upend their lives. And elections are state and local affairs. Blue states are not going to go along. With our massive debt and huge budget, I would think a well timed general strike would bring the federal government to it&#039;s knees. If fixed elections worked, everyone could just register Republican and change from within. The rule book is complex even if not always followed...

My personal stand is once the government is no longer a constitutional republic run by the rule of law with free and fair elections, my social contact with said government ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with permanently fixing elections to a single party is only a quarter of those eligible to vote voted for Trump. Of those, only a fraction would support extreme action. It's a big question what the non-voters would do if you upend their lives. And elections are state and local affairs. Blue states are not going to go along. With our massive debt and huge budget, I would think a well timed general strike would bring the federal government to it's knees. If fixed elections worked, everyone could just register Republican and change from within. The rule book is complex even if not always followed...</p>
<p>My personal stand is once the government is no longer a constitutional republic run by the rule of law with free and fair elections, my social contact with said government ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213164</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

&lt;i&gt;What&#039;s most annoying (to me, at least) is the undeniable fact that Democrats are unquestionably the party that even dares to proposed things to make working-class families&#039; lives better.&lt;/i&gt;

I know what you mean. Ahem.

Maybe it&#039;s time, at long last, for Dems to start thinking about how to counter the success of the Republican cult of economic failure in leading voters of ALL stripes astray. Hint: it ain&#039;t rocket science!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p><i>What's most annoying (to me, at least) is the undeniable fact that Democrats are unquestionably the party that even dares to proposed things to make working-class families' lives better.</i></p>
<p>I know what you mean. Ahem.</p>
<p>Maybe it's time, at long last, for Dems to start thinking about how to counter the success of the Republican cult of economic failure in leading voters of ALL stripes astray. Hint: it ain't rocket science!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213163</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be clear, my [12] was meant for Dan. Of course, smart people would have known that. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, my [12] was meant for Dan. Of course, smart people would have known that. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dan,

perhaps, but what about michale&#039;s point that republicans after abolishing the filibuster might then establish permanent one-party rule and restrict democratic elections? i don&#039;t think it would really go that way, but can we discount the possibility?

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dan,</p>
<p>perhaps, but what about michale's point that republicans after abolishing the filibuster might then establish permanent one-party rule and restrict democratic elections? i don't think it would really go that way, but can we discount the possibility?</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213161</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. So, what should it be replaced with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. So, what should it be replaced with?</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213160</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MANY very smart people fall into what&#039;s called similarity bias. because something is easy for them to grasp, they presume it will be easy for others too if only they explain it right or come at it from the right angle, and that&#039;s often just not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MANY very smart people fall into what's called similarity bias. because something is easy for them to grasp, they presume it will be easy for others too if only they explain it right or come at it from the right angle, and that's often just not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That doesn&#039;t mean replace it with nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn't mean replace it with nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213158</link>
		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fillibuster is garbage.  There&#039;s no reason to think that a flat 60-vote threshold to pass anything will lead to good legislation. What we need is actual checks and balances, where people with different outlooks have to consider the merits of each other&#039;s ideas, and sort out what&#039;s actually good policy -- or, failing that, have to work out reasonable compromises.  Everyone in Congress is elected by the same winner-take-all plurality voting system.  Different levels of obstructionism aren&#039;t the kind of difference that can enable that.  The founders imagined that the elites who controlled the state legislatures would have enough in common, compared to the hoi palloi who formed the constituency of the House, that the Senate would be able to come to one consensus while the House came to another, and then they could negotiate in conference committee.  But it doesn&#039;t work that way.  We need institutions that reflect the actual flow of influence, and have actual deliberation happen where it&#039;s theoretically supposed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fillibuster is garbage.  There's no reason to think that a flat 60-vote threshold to pass anything will lead to good legislation. What we need is actual checks and balances, where people with different outlooks have to consider the merits of each other's ideas, and sort out what's actually good policy -- or, failing that, have to work out reasonable compromises.  Everyone in Congress is elected by the same winner-take-all plurality voting system.  Different levels of obstructionism aren't the kind of difference that can enable that.  The founders imagined that the elites who controlled the state legislatures would have enough in common, compared to the hoi palloi who formed the constituency of the House, that the Senate would be able to come to one consensus while the House came to another, and then they could negotiate in conference committee.  But it doesn't work that way.  We need institutions that reflect the actual flow of influence, and have actual deliberation happen where it's theoretically supposed to.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But, you shouldn&#039;t treat voters like they are stupid, either, because they are not.&lt;/i&gt;

that&#039;s just false. individual voters are not stupid. however, voters as a group collectively are ABSOLUTELY stupid.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&#039;Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
---George Carlin&lt;/blockquote&gt;

i.e.
it&#039;s just a statistical fact.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But, you shouldn't treat voters like they are stupid, either, because they are not.</i></p>
<p>that's just false. individual voters are not stupid. however, voters as a group collectively are ABSOLUTELY stupid.</p>
<blockquote><p>'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.<br />
---George Carlin</p></blockquote>
<p>i.e.<br />
it's just a statistical fact.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213156</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well how about this... A Democrat who can rise above his PTDS and Trump/America hate and actually care about this country!!??

Democrat governor breaks with party in commending Trump for tapping RFK Jr to join Cabinet

Democratic Colorado governor commends Trump for nominating RFK Jr. as HHS secretary

Gov. Jared Polis said he looks forward to &#039;partnering with him to truly make America healthy again.&#039;

Ya&#039;all need to get off yer Trump/America hate PTDS kick and start helping President ELECT Trump to make America great again.

Don&#039;t ya&#039;all WANT to help yer country??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well how about this... A Democrat who can rise above his PTDS and Trump/America hate and actually care about this country!!??</p>
<p>Democrat governor breaks with party in commending Trump for tapping RFK Jr to join Cabinet</p>
<p>Democratic Colorado governor commends Trump for nominating RFK Jr. as HHS secretary</p>
<p>Gov. Jared Polis said he looks forward to 'partnering with him to truly make America healthy again.'</p>
<p>Ya'all need to get off yer Trump/America hate PTDS kick and start helping President ELECT Trump to make America great again.</p>
<p>Don't ya'all WANT to help yer country??</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213155</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isXCmG5pLQY

And ta think there were actually people who actually BELIEVED that Harris could actually WIN this election!!!!   :D

There is simply no logical or rational case to be made that Harris EVER had ANY possible chance to win the 2024 election...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isXCmG5pLQY" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isXCmG5pLQY</a></p>
<p>And ta think there were actually people who actually BELIEVED that Harris could actually WIN this election!!!!   :D</p>
<p>There is simply no logical or rational case to be made that Harris EVER had ANY possible chance to win the 2024 election...</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213154</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Looking that far into the future in politics is impossible, I do realize that. &lt;/i&gt;

I would not say something is &quot;impossible&quot; if I&#039;d written blog posts three days in a row doing it. Not a complaint but an observation. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Looking that far into the future in politics is impossible, I do realize that. </i></p>
<p>I would not say something is "impossible" if I'd written blog posts three days in a row doing it. Not a complaint but an observation. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213153</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I can see that most everybody here is feasting on sour grapes.

Democrats lost it over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I can see that most everybody here is feasting on sour grapes.</p>
<p>Democrats lost it over it.</p>
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		<title>By: John M from Ct.</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213151</link>
		<dc:creator>John M from Ct.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, maybe the voters actually are stupid. Why do you say that&#039;s like a bad thing? The whole point of democracy (demos = the common crowd; cracy = rule) is that the consent of the governed, the stupid crowd, is the strongest basis for a stable state. Stupid or not, they are the people being governed and their uninformed opinions and prejudices must be accounted for in a just allocation of political power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, maybe the voters actually are stupid. Why do you say that's like a bad thing? The whole point of democracy (demos = the common crowd; cracy = rule) is that the consent of the governed, the stupid crowd, is the strongest basis for a stable state. Stupid or not, they are the people being governed and their uninformed opinions and prejudices must be accounted for in a just allocation of political power.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213150</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messaging on the economy AND laying out the basic differences between Democratic and Republican economic policy doesn&#039;t have to get stalled in the weeds or dragged down in the details and culture issues.

But, you shouldn&#039;t treat voters like they are stupid, either, because they are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messaging on the economy AND laying out the basic differences between Democratic and Republican economic policy doesn't have to get stalled in the weeds or dragged down in the details and culture issues.</p>
<p>But, you shouldn't treat voters like they are stupid, either, because they are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/11/14/democrats-already-have-a-good-economic-populist-agenda/#comment-213149</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Other than Bernie Sanders and the economic-populist wing, the rest of the party doesn&#039;t do a great job championing populism -- and an absolutely horrible job of taking credit for anything.&lt;/i&gt;

Senator Sherrod Brown also knew how to talk about the economy and the significant differences between Democratic and Republican economic policy. And, ironically, he didn&#039;t get re-elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Other than Bernie Sanders and the economic-populist wing, the rest of the party doesn't do a great job championing populism -- and an absolutely horrible job of taking credit for anything.</i></p>
<p>Senator Sherrod Brown also knew how to talk about the economy and the significant differences between Democratic and Republican economic policy. And, ironically, he didn't get re-elected.</p>
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