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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John From Censornati
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&lt;i&gt;I don&#039;t think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans &lt;/i&gt;

The projection is strong in AKA Vance. This actually reminds me of another time he described Trump: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;He never offers details for how these plans will work, because he can’t. Trump’s promises are the needle in America’s collective vein.... Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it. 

~ J. D. Vance describing Trump as Opioid of the Masses,  July 4, 2016  

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/opioid-of-the-masses/489911/ &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;He&#039;s not good at this. &lt;/i&gt;

In his pathetic attempts to disparage others, it seems JD still cannot stop himself from describing Don&lt;b&gt;old&lt;/b&gt; to a &quot;T&quot;... as if the real Vance is still in there somewhere, if only he could stop mainlining the &quot;cultural heroin.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John From Censornati<br />
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<p><i>I don't think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans </i></p>
<p>The projection is strong in AKA Vance. This actually reminds me of another time he described Trump: </p>
<blockquote><p>He never offers details for how these plans will work, because he can’t. Trump’s promises are the needle in America’s collective vein.... Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it. </p>
<p>~ J. D. Vance describing Trump as Opioid of the Masses,  July 4, 2016  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/opioid-of-the-masses/489911/" rel="nofollow">https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/opioid-of-the-masses/489911/</a> </p></blockquote>
<p><i>He's not good at this. </i></p>
<p>In his pathetic attempts to disparage others, it seems JD still cannot stop himself from describing Don<b>old</b> to a "T"... as if the real Vance is still in there somewhere, if only he could stop mainlining the "cultural heroin."</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 18:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit out-of-nowhere, but here&#039;s a question: 

Suppose that a thousand people start businesses.  Most of them are pretty smart, all of them put in a bunch of their own money at the beginning, most of them don&#039;t get paid much for the first couple years, and all of them work really hard.  Is it better to have an economy -- and I mean the whole mess, market structures and tax policies and relevant social norms and regulatory systems and financial institutions, all of it, including a bunch of stuff I haven&#039;t thought of -- is it better to have an economy where it&#039;s well-nigh inevitable that one of them will become a billionaire, and about 99 will get rich but not billionaire rich, and about another hundred will make a decent living but not get rich, while the other 80% of the businesses go bankrupt and the founders move on to something else?  Or is it better to have an economy that makes it well-nigh inevitable that about 80% of these hard-working self-starter types will succeed and make a decent living, and a handful get rich, but none of them becomes a billionaire? 

And whichever possibility is better, why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit out-of-nowhere, but here's a question: </p>
<p>Suppose that a thousand people start businesses.  Most of them are pretty smart, all of them put in a bunch of their own money at the beginning, most of them don't get paid much for the first couple years, and all of them work really hard.  Is it better to have an economy -- and I mean the whole mess, market structures and tax policies and relevant social norms and regulatory systems and financial institutions, all of it, including a bunch of stuff I haven't thought of -- is it better to have an economy where it's well-nigh inevitable that one of them will become a billionaire, and about 99 will get rich but not billionaire rich, and about another hundred will make a decent living but not get rich, while the other 80% of the businesses go bankrupt and the founders move on to something else?  Or is it better to have an economy that makes it well-nigh inevitable that about 80% of these hard-working self-starter types will succeed and make a decent living, and a handful get rich, but none of them becomes a billionaire? </p>
<p>And whichever possibility is better, why?</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe I&#039;d never seen &quot;Don&lt;b&gt;old&lt;/b&gt;&quot; before. It&#039;s] so obvious in retrospect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't believe I'd never seen "Don<b>old</b>" before. It's] so obvious in retrospect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is where it got absolutely priceless (for me at least). Trump&#039;s response: &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have concepts of a plan. I&#039;m not president right now. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL. One of my favorite parts too. Trump keeps hysterically claiming that Harris hasn&#039;t implemented her plan and has had 3-1/2 years to do so, as if she&#039;s actually &quot;president right now.&quot; Trump is so terminally ignorant, he seems like he needs being president explained to him. I would wager it was quite a shock to some of his gullible MAGA cult minions that Trump isn&#039;t actually &quot;president right now.&quot; 

The moderators had the good form to keep asking Trump for answers until he either blurted them out or refused to answer (also very telling depending on the question asked). For instance:

* Yes or no, health care plan? I (still) got nothing.
* Yes or no, would you veto a national abortion ban? *crickets*
* JD Vance said you would veto it, yes or no? We don&#039;t really talk. 
* Yes or no, Ukraine should win the war? I am Putin&#039;s puppet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is where it got absolutely priceless (for me at least). Trump's response: </i></p>
<blockquote><p>I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now. </p></blockquote>
<p>LOL. One of my favorite parts too. Trump keeps hysterically claiming that Harris hasn't implemented her plan and has had 3-1/2 years to do so, as if she's actually "president right now." Trump is so terminally ignorant, he seems like he needs being president explained to him. I would wager it was quite a shock to some of his gullible MAGA cult minions that Trump isn't actually "president right now." </p>
<p>The moderators had the good form to keep asking Trump for answers until he either blurted them out or refused to answer (also very telling depending on the question asked). For instance:</p>
<p>* Yes or no, health care plan? I (still) got nothing.<br />
* Yes or no, would you veto a national abortion ban? *crickets*<br />
* JD Vance said you would veto it, yes or no? We don't really talk.<br />
* Yes or no, Ukraine should win the war? I am Putin's puppet.</p>
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		<title>By: ListenWhenYouHear</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; And the people that do go, she&#039;s busing them in and paying them to be there. &lt;b&gt;And then showing them in a different light. &lt;/b&gt;So, she can&#039;t talk about that.&lt;/i&gt;

Had Trump just said that Harris buses people in and pays them to be at her rallies, that would have been fine.  But when he brought up how to show them in different lighting and from different angles, that tells us that Trump is well versed in paying people to attend his rallies!  

What is funny is that the people who are seen leaving his rallies in the middle of them are the ones who he paid to be there in the first place!  They were paid for only two hours of work.  If Trump refuses to pay them overtime, why would they volunteer their time by staying even a minute longer than what they were paid to be there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> And the people that do go, she's busing them in and paying them to be there. <b>And then showing them in a different light. </b>So, she can't talk about that.</i></p>
<p>Had Trump just said that Harris buses people in and pays them to be at her rallies, that would have been fine.  But when he brought up how to show them in different lighting and from different angles, that tells us that Trump is well versed in paying people to attend his rallies!  </p>
<p>What is funny is that the people who are seen leaving his rallies in the middle of them are the ones who he paid to be there in the first place!  They were paid for only two hours of work.  If Trump refuses to pay them overtime, why would they volunteer their time by staying even a minute longer than what they were paid to be there?</p>
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		<title>By: John From Censornati</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 01:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In his desperation, Big Orange ran to the spin room after losing to proclaim his Archie Bunker on meth routine to be the best Archie Bunker on meth routine in the history of the world and probably the universe. 

This pointless weirdness almost certainly freaked out the Secret Service. I suspect that he was a big part of the problem in Butler, PA too. It&#039;s a shame that heroes are getting the blame because an incel shot at him and scratched his ear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his desperation, Big Orange ran to the spin room after losing to proclaim his Archie Bunker on meth routine to be the best Archie Bunker on meth routine in the history of the world and probably the universe. </p>
<p>This pointless weirdness almost certainly freaked out the Secret Service. I suspect that he was a big part of the problem in Butler, PA too. It's a shame that heroes are getting the blame because an incel shot at him and scratched his ear.</p>
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		<title>By: John From Censornati</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&lt;b&gt;old&lt;/b&gt; has been working on concepts for plans to avoid attending a second beat down. He&#039;s demanding Hannity, Ingraham, and (extra hilariously) Jesse Watters as moderators. It&#039;s almost as if he knows that we know that they paid out three quarters of a billion dollars for lying and Harris will never agree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don<b>old</b> has been working on concepts for plans to avoid attending a second beat down. He's demanding Hannity, Ingraham, and (extra hilariously) Jesse Watters as moderators. It's almost as if he knows that we know that they paid out three quarters of a billion dollars for lying and Harris will never agree!</p>
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		<title>By: John From Censornati</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite gushing just last week about a phony T Swift endorsement, Short Fingers ran to Fox &amp; Friends this morning  and said:

&lt;i&gt;I actually like Mrs. Mahomes much better, if you want to know the truth. She&#039;s a big Trump fan. I was not a Taylor Swift fan.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s right. He&#039;d rather have the endorsement of some quarterback&#039;s wife whose name he could not recall. I suppose somebody might believe that if he was born yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite gushing just last week about a phony T Swift endorsement, Short Fingers ran to Fox &amp; Friends this morning  and said:</p>
<p><i>I actually like Mrs. Mahomes much better, if you want to know the truth. She's a big Trump fan. I was not a Taylor Swift fan.</i></p>
<p>That's right. He'd rather have the endorsement of some quarterback's wife whose name he could not recall. I suppose somebody might believe that if he was born yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: John From Censornati</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Kamala and T Swift ganging up on Fat Donny, AKA Vance ran to the Fox Defamation Channel this afternoon and blurted out this gem:

&lt;i&gt;I don&#039;t think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans&lt;/i&gt;

He&#039;s not good at this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Kamala and T Swift ganging up on Fat Donny, AKA Vance ran to the Fox Defamation Channel this afternoon and blurted out this gem:</p>
<p><i>I don't think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans</i></p>
<p>He's not good at this.</p>
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