Comments on: The Year The Debates Mattered http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/09/03/the-year-the-debates-mattered/ Reality-based political commentary Sat, 02 May 2026 07:43:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/09/03/the-year-the-debates-mattered/#comment-211520 Kick Thu, 05 Sep 2024 23:34:39 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=25480#comment-211520 Elizabeth Miller 4 <i>Most voters don't even know the broad outline of what Democrats and Republicans are all about on the economy.</i> Quite the contrary, most voters actually do know the broad outline of economic policy of Democrats versus Republicans. Republicans are perpetually claiming they'll lower "everyone's" taxes while Democrats are generally attempting to raise taxes, albeit on the wealthy. <i>Perhaps, that is why a majority of them think Republicans - even when Trump is the nominee - are better for their own personal economic outlook.</i> The vast majority of Americans are very well aware that Trump is also promising big tax cuts for everyone (again), and they're also well aware that Democrats want to raise taxes on the wealthy, hence the very reason many Americans generally consistently rate Republicans as "better for their own personal economic outlook," and Republicans will lie and claim Democrats want to raise taxes on everyone. Be that as it may, a Republican candidate for president has <b>not</b> won the popular vote in America in two decades, and I would not expect that trend to change in 2024, particularly since Trump has never won the popular vote and has a consistent ceiling of around 46-ish percent. The potential for Trump to move voters at this point is practically nil; his remaining move is to trash Harris/Walz. However, there is an upside for Harris in this debate... if she takes it. Hammer home those Trump tariffs and his promise to raise them exponentially higher still... in effect a national sales tax on Americans... and then watch that "economy" gap close: https://tinyurl.com/mr2ypkds Then there's Project 2025 and all that that entails; hammer that massive pile of poo too. Trump can deny it all he wants, but then he's a well-known LSOS who recently admitted he lost the election. Elizabeth Miller
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Most voters don't even know the broad outline of what Democrats and Republicans are all about on the economy.

Quite the contrary, most voters actually do know the broad outline of economic policy of Democrats versus Republicans. Republicans are perpetually claiming they'll lower "everyone's" taxes while Democrats are generally attempting to raise taxes, albeit on the wealthy.

Perhaps, that is why a majority of them think Republicans - even when Trump is the nominee - are better for their own personal economic outlook.

The vast majority of Americans are very well aware that Trump is also promising big tax cuts for everyone (again), and they're also well aware that Democrats want to raise taxes on the wealthy, hence the very reason many Americans generally consistently rate Republicans as "better for their own personal economic outlook," and Republicans will lie and claim Democrats want to raise taxes on everyone.

Be that as it may, a Republican candidate for president has not won the popular vote in America in two decades, and I would not expect that trend to change in 2024, particularly since Trump has never won the popular vote and has a consistent ceiling of around 46-ish percent.

The potential for Trump to move voters at this point is practically nil; his remaining move is to trash Harris/Walz. However, there is an upside for Harris in this debate... if she takes it. Hammer home those Trump tariffs and his promise to raise them exponentially higher still... in effect a national sales tax on Americans... and then watch that "economy" gap close:

https://tinyurl.com/mr2ypkds

Then there's Project 2025 and all that that entails; hammer that massive pile of poo too. Trump can deny it all he wants, but then he's a well-known LSOS who recently admitted he lost the election.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/09/03/the-year-the-debates-mattered/#comment-211508 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 05 Sep 2024 02:11:47 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=25480#comment-211508 I like it! I like it!

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/09/03/the-year-the-debates-mattered/#comment-211502 MtnCaddy Wed, 04 Sep 2024 19:13:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=25480#comment-211502 <b>Dubya and later Trump left a trashed American economy for Obama and Biden to clean up. Vote Democrat and let’s skip the NEXT Republican disaster. Dubya and later Trump left a trashed American economy for Obama and Biden to clean up. Vote Democrat and let’s skip the NEXT Republican disaster.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/09/03/the-year-the-debates-mattered/#comment-211501 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 04 Sep 2024 13:39:02 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=25480#comment-211501 <i>People aren't going to be tuning in to learn the intricacies of the Democratic tax plans versus the Republicans' ideas, instead they're going to be tuning in to watch the political equivalent of a cage match. Or professional wrestling, perhaps.</i> Forget about intricacies of any economic issue. Most voters don't even know the broad outline of what Democrats and Republicans are all about on the economy. Perhaps, that is why a majority of them think Republicans - even when Trump is the nominee - are better for their own personal economic outlook. But, you're right, this debate probably won't change that, either. Sigh. People aren't going to be tuning in to learn the intricacies of the Democratic tax plans versus the Republicans' ideas, instead they're going to be tuning in to watch the political equivalent of a cage match. Or professional wrestling, perhaps.

Forget about intricacies of any economic issue. Most voters don't even know the broad outline of what Democrats and Republicans are all about on the economy. Perhaps, that is why a majority of them think Republicans - even when Trump is the nominee - are better for their own personal economic outlook. But, you're right, this debate probably won't change that, either. Sigh.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/09/03/the-year-the-debates-mattered/#comment-211492 MtnCaddy Wed, 04 Sep 2024 03:09:54 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=25480#comment-211492 RFK Jr was always an obvious Republican rat fucking operation against Biden. What a douchebag. RFK Jr was always an obvious Republican rat fucking operation against Biden. What a douchebag.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/09/03/the-year-the-debates-mattered/#comment-211491 MtnCaddy Wed, 04 Sep 2024 03:07:58 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=25480#comment-211491 Meh, the one and only debate may not move the needle much more than a touch in Kamala’s favor. I think there are very few voters who aren’t locked in and that a cursory glance at what the two candidates offer should gather the majority of the coin flip crowd. I, too, think Joe would have thumped Trump even worse than in 2020. That said, where does Trump find the votes he doesn’t have and desperately needs to complete? Absolutely I’d rather be us than them, even if RFK Jr brings scores of voters with him. Meh, the one and only debate may not move the needle much more than a touch in Kamala’s favor. I think there are very few voters who aren’t locked in and that a cursory glance at what the two candidates offer should gather the majority of the coin flip crowd.

I, too, think Joe would have thumped Trump even worse than in 2020. That said, where does Trump find the votes he doesn’t have and desperately needs to complete? Absolutely I’d rather be us than them, even if RFK Jr brings scores of voters with him.

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/09/03/the-year-the-debates-mattered/#comment-211490 ListenWhenYouHear Tue, 03 Sep 2024 23:11:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=25480#comment-211490 <i> It would be a rather historic turnaround to have the Democrat dominate Trump in the second debate after Trump so effectively dominated the Democrat in the first debate. </i> How did Trump dominate Biden in the first debate? What did Trump say, or what points did he make that were so memorable during the debate? Anyone? Trump had a terrible first debate! He was just lucky that Biden had such a horrible and unexpected debate performance that Trump’s went unnoticed by the press. Biden appeared/sounded sickly and had trouble organizing his thoughts all night, to the point that people ignored Trump’s performance completely. Trump failed to answer any of the questions posed to them directly. Remind us all of one newsworthy thing that Trump said during the debate. You cannot because Trump had a terrible debate. Trump didn't beat Biden; Biden beat Biden! It would be a rather historic turnaround to have the Democrat dominate Trump in the second debate after Trump so effectively dominated the Democrat in the first debate.

How did Trump dominate Biden in the first debate? What did Trump say, or what points did he make that were so memorable during the debate? Anyone? Trump had a terrible first debate! He was just lucky that Biden had such a horrible and unexpected debate performance that Trump’s went unnoticed by the press. Biden appeared/sounded sickly and had trouble organizing his thoughts all night, to the point that people ignored Trump’s performance completely. Trump failed to answer any of the questions posed to them directly. Remind us all of one newsworthy thing that Trump said during the debate. You cannot because Trump had a terrible debate.

Trump didn't beat Biden; Biden beat Biden!

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