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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/07/03/democrats-crisis-of-confidence/#comment-210008</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jul 2024 01:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what about a year and a half ... so that there is time then before the mid-terms and yet not making the retirement announcement too soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what about a year and a half ... so that there is time then before the mid-terms and yet not making the retirement announcement too soon.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@liz,

100 days, 6 months, 1 year, whatever. I just believe that any more than one year won&#039;t read like a genuine admission that Joe really is slowing down, and might slow down more.

as far as vice-presidential succession goes, my initial idea was just that Kamala would be president and &quot;whoever happens to be speaker of the house&quot; at the agreed upon date would become VP. I haven&#039;t really thought through the logistics; it was just a wild brainstorm, after all.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@liz,</p>
<p>100 days, 6 months, 1 year, whatever. I just believe that any more than one year won't read like a genuine admission that Joe really is slowing down, and might slow down more.</p>
<p>as far as vice-presidential succession goes, my initial idea was just that Kamala would be president and "whoever happens to be speaker of the house" at the agreed upon date would become VP. I haven't really thought through the logistics; it was just a wild brainstorm, after all.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2024 13:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or rather, with two senile candidates &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; no possibility of having the one they dislike less win.

And it doesn&#039;t matter whether Biden really is senile or just slowing down a bit and occasionally having a bad day, because everyone &quot;knows&quot; that he&#039;s senile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or rather, with two senile candidates <i>and</i> no possibility of having the one they dislike less win.</p>
<p>And it doesn't matter whether Biden really is senile or just slowing down a bit and occasionally having a bad day, because everyone "knows" that he's senile.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2024 13:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the coattails would be more favorable with a not-guaranteed-to-lose candidate at the top of the ticket.  With a contrast between a senile candidate and a not-senile candidate, people will vote who won’t bother with two senile candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the coattails would be more favorable with a not-guaranteed-to-lose candidate at the top of the ticket.  With a contrast between a senile candidate and a not-senile candidate, people will vote who won’t bother with two senile candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2024 13:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua,

The more I think about your idea, the more I like it, with some relatively minor tweaks.

Everyone I&#039;ve heard talk about the need for Biden to step aside are now all saying that it&#039;s not about one bad debate or whether Biden has had some episodes or he has a condition. 

It is now about whether he can govern for four and a half years! And, there&#039;s never any pushback about why he has to be able to govern for four and a half years.

I still don&#039;t really like your timeline, though. And, I have questions about the current vice president automatically taking the reins and how would you go about having a mini primary, making her run in that primary ... and, then, what about choosing a running mate???

I think maybe a guest column is in order for you to flesh all of this out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua,</p>
<p>The more I think about your idea, the more I like it, with some relatively minor tweaks.</p>
<p>Everyone I've heard talk about the need for Biden to step aside are now all saying that it's not about one bad debate or whether Biden has had some episodes or he has a condition. </p>
<p>It is now about whether he can govern for four and a half years! And, there's never any pushback about why he has to be able to govern for four and a half years.</p>
<p>I still don't really like your timeline, though. And, I have questions about the current vice president automatically taking the reins and how would you go about having a mini primary, making her run in that primary ... and, then, what about choosing a running mate???</p>
<p>I think maybe a guest column is in order for you to flesh all of this out!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/07/03/democrats-crisis-of-confidence/#comment-209999</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2024 11:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear! Hear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear! Hear!</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2024 05:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s late enough. I pronounce an end to the &lt;i&gt;Democrat’s week from hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s late enough. I pronounce an end to the <i>Democrat’s week from hell.</i></p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2024 05:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Elizabeth we yanks appreciate that. Hope we get to celebrate this next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Elizabeth we yanks appreciate that. Hope we get to celebrate this next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 18:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[13] was actually meant for Dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[13] was actually meant for Dan.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 18:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, you may be right. I&#039;m not going to think anymore about it until tomorrow. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, you may be right. I'm not going to think anymore about it until tomorrow. :)</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if they had begun the year as the nominee then sure. but putting one of them in there now, after the primary voting is done, would be political suicide not just for the presidency but also down-ballot. yes, local candidates run stronger than the president does, but that is with the president still on the ballot. do you really think jon tester would be more likely to hold on to his Senate seat if the presidential nominee were Gavin Newsom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they had begun the year as the nominee then sure. but putting one of them in there now, after the primary voting is done, would be political suicide not just for the presidency but also down-ballot. yes, local candidates run stronger than the president does, but that is with the president still on the ballot. do you really think jon tester would be more likely to hold on to his Senate seat if the presidential nominee were Gavin Newsom?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/07/03/democrats-crisis-of-confidence/#comment-209990</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 18:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I disagree, wholeheartedly, Dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I disagree, wholeheartedly, Dan.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 17:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, any Democratic senator or governor would be a vastly better president than Trump will, and &lt;i&gt;anyone&lt;/i&gt; not named Hillary Clinton would have a better chance of beating Trump than Biden does.  Whitmer, Newsom, and Shapiro are all reasonable options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, any Democratic senator or governor would be a vastly better president than Trump will, and <i>anyone</i> not named Hillary Clinton would have a better chance of beating Trump than Biden does.  Whitmer, Newsom, and Shapiro are all reasonable options.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/07/03/democrats-crisis-of-confidence/#comment-209988</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 12:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, and all my American friends,

Wishing you all a wonderful Independance Day!

Hoping you all will be able to put politics aside for this day and just have fun, listen to some great music or play your own, and reflect on all of the reasons why it&#039;s great to be an American!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, and all my American friends,</p>
<p>Wishing you all a wonderful Independance Day!</p>
<p>Hoping you all will be able to put politics aside for this day and just have fun, listen to some great music or play your own, and reflect on all of the reasons why it's great to be an American!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 03:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 01:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the attention span of the electorate rivals that of a fruit fly.

in general, campaign promises to do something more than a year in the future tend to be conveniently forgotten, or never believed to begin with. although Joe would almost certainly be honorable about it and keep his word, from the point of view of a &quot;swing&quot; voter such a commitment would likely ring hollow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the attention span of the electorate rivals that of a fruit fly.</p>
<p>in general, campaign promises to do something more than a year in the future tend to be conveniently forgotten, or never believed to begin with. although Joe would almost certainly be honorable about it and keep his word, from the point of view of a "swing" voter such a commitment would likely ring hollow.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua[4],

I&#039;m having some trouble understanding what you&#039;re saying there...would you clarify, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua[4],</p>
<p>I'm having some trouble understanding what you're saying there...would you clarify, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/07/03/democrats-crisis-of-confidence/#comment-209981</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I for one will be watching that ABC interview on Friday with concern. It will really be Joe Biden&#039;s last chance to calm the waters and reassure his supporters. If he is not up to the task of doing so, then he is not up to the task of winning this election, plain and simple.&lt;/i&gt;

So will I! 

If Biden proves that he is not up to the task, then it&#039;s game over for Democrats and best of luck to you all and the rest of us under a second Trump administration. At least, that is what I believe the only two options are at this late stage of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I for one will be watching that ABC interview on Friday with concern. It will really be Joe Biden's last chance to calm the waters and reassure his supporters. If he is not up to the task of doing so, then he is not up to the task of winning this election, plain and simple.</i></p>
<p>So will I! </p>
<p>If Biden proves that he is not up to the task, then it's game over for Democrats and best of luck to you all and the rest of us under a second Trump administration. At least, that is what I believe the only two options are at this late stage of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@liz,

if the goal of the change is to move the needle for the election this november, two years may be too much to have a real impact - unless the regular monitoring of his health were conducted by someone (if you&#039;ll pardon the pun) truly unimpeachable. otherwise the republican counters practically write themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@liz,</p>
<p>if the goal of the change is to move the needle for the election this november, two years may be too much to have a real impact - unless the regular monitoring of his health were conducted by someone (if you'll pardon the pun) truly unimpeachable. otherwise the republican counters practically write themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2024/07/03/democrats-crisis-of-confidence/#comment-209979</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If Biden can just do that, they figure, the rest of it will work itself out. Perhaps Joe may have to step down at some point (or be forced out using the 25th Amendment), but we can deal with that problem when it happens. Vice President Kamala Harris will be there to take over, if need be. But for that to happen, his cabinet would have to essentially depose him, and his cabinet has been remarkably stable and loyal in his first term. Will they be up to the task of standing up to Biden should the need arise in the future? Or will Dr. Jill run the country for the remainder of his term, if Joe proves not to be up to the task anymore?&lt;/i&gt;

Okay, I call absolute nonsense on all of that! Time to unclench the anuses and start fighting back against the real enemy.

Seriously, Biden won&#039;t have to be carried out of the WH kicking and screaming once he is re-elected. But, I&#039;m not at all surprised by the non-serious scenario outlined above. Because, let&#039;s face it, there are precious few real Biden fans around here, since 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If Biden can just do that, they figure, the rest of it will work itself out. Perhaps Joe may have to step down at some point (or be forced out using the 25th Amendment), but we can deal with that problem when it happens. Vice President Kamala Harris will be there to take over, if need be. But for that to happen, his cabinet would have to essentially depose him, and his cabinet has been remarkably stable and loyal in his first term. Will they be up to the task of standing up to Biden should the need arise in the future? Or will Dr. Jill run the country for the remainder of his term, if Joe proves not to be up to the task anymore?</i></p>
<p>Okay, I call absolute nonsense on all of that! Time to unclench the anuses and start fighting back against the real enemy.</p>
<p>Seriously, Biden won't have to be carried out of the WH kicking and screaming once he is re-elected. But, I'm not at all surprised by the non-serious scenario outlined above. Because, let's face it, there are precious few real Biden fans around here, since 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CW,

have you been reading the comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CW,</p>
<p>have you been reading the comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The question to them isn&#039;t whether Joe Biden is up to the task of being president right now (or through Election Day), it is instead whether he will still be up to that task three or four years from now.&lt;/i&gt;

Who the heck cares if he&#039;ll be up to the job in three or four years!? Let&#039;s just get him re-elected and buy some precious time for potential Dem presidential candidates to get up to speed on their own presidential ambitions because none of them are there yet.

Even I don&#039;t expect Biden to continue through to 2028. It may even be wise for him to announce an early retirement in 2026 now, before November ... with props to Joshua for stealing part of his idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The question to them isn't whether Joe Biden is up to the task of being president right now (or through Election Day), it is instead whether he will still be up to that task three or four years from now.</i></p>
<p>Who the heck cares if he'll be up to the job in three or four years!? Let's just get him re-elected and buy some precious time for potential Dem presidential candidates to get up to speed on their own presidential ambitions because none of them are there yet.</p>
<p>Even I don't expect Biden to continue through to 2028. It may even be wise for him to announce an early retirement in 2026 now, before November ... with props to Joshua for stealing part of his idea.</p>
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