I am so disappointed by the way the discussion has devolved here with regard to Ukraine and Israel.

The devolution is (for the most part) all yours. Who else is it that takes a column regarding one thing and devolves it into an absolute unrelated repetitive prattling and endless blathering bunch of BS? If anyone else did this, you'd "board mother" the shit out of them, but since it's your nonsensical modus operandi, you turn a blind eye to it... in more ways than one.

Chris's blog has never been about foreign policy, my primary interest.

I wouldn't say "never," but it is rarely the focus.

And, it has taken me far too long to accept that I should find another place to discuss these kinds of issues and not continue to hijack his headlining pieces.

Yes, you've become the hijacking board troll.

So, I'm going to refrain from any further discussion of topics that Chris doesn't address in his columns.

As if.

Name calling? Who here has addressed you in any manner like, say, the douchebag formerly known as michale? Were things “better” back when he still had the balls to hang around here poisoning Weigantia?

Note: y’all may think he’s “living in my brain” but far from it. Certain comments may remind me of him and I take wagering seriously and I fucking HATE so-called men that welch when they lose, especially after talking so much trash. For all I know the fucker caught Covid one time too many and has gone to meet Zombie Jesus up in the sky. Whatever.

The reason that I (I won’t speak for the others) get frustrated is that you refuse to address my points. Come to think about, kind of just like the D-F-K-A-M. You duck and run and a few days later you say stupid stuff again.

The world is not black and white but, unfortunately, nuance is in short supply.

Just because I criticize Biden for his handling of the Ukraine file and the IDF for how they are executing the war in Gaza doesn't mean that I have "flipped" on Biden or that I don't support a Jewish state.

If I didn't care deeply about Biden or Israel, then I wouldn't be so critical when I see either doing things they shouldn't.

I am so disappointed by the way the discussion has devolved here with regard to Ukraine and Israel. I had thought that we were all more reasonable people before the two latest wars have turned our discussions here into little more than name-calling retorts devoid of any consideration or understanding.

Chris's blog has never been about foreign policy, my primary interest. And, it has taken me far too long to accept that I should find another place to discuss these kinds of issues and not continue to hijack his headlining pieces.

So, I'm going to refrain from any further discussion of topics that Chris doesn't address in his columns.

And now you add your voice to the cacophony that condemns Israel and holds her to a far higher standard than, say, Assad and Putin.

“Antisemitism” is my final answer.

That’s some whacko shit there, Elizabeth. :O “Engagement” in the back and forth over any issue means responding to the points raised.

So what is factually INCORRECT about my summary? What am I misunderstanding? And where the hell are you getting your foreign policy information?

Israel is trying to confront an imminent threat to their lives and the lives of their families. if you don't like the way they're going about it, feel free to move out there and try and implement your favorite strategy to protect your family.

Well, Israel failed spectacularly on that count. And, now the IDF over-reacts. Hopefully there will be a real reckoning about all of that but I'm not holding my breath.

If the IDF need me to implement an effective strategy, then the situation is more dire than I thought. Heh.

Clearly, after decades of occupation and repeating cycles of violence the IDF has lost its professionalism and is no longer considered a premiere fighting force. I hope that can be rectified over time for the sake of the survival of the Jewish state and the security and safety of all Israeli families.

Get real, Caddy or STFU!

yes.

Day-yam, Elizabeth! First and to this day you claim that Ukraine is Biden’s/America’s fault. Now you want to blame America for this latest Arab aggression?

It's not really that hard to decipher what is real about the US-empowered Israeli war in Gaza.

What I imagine is very hard is accepting the reality of what Israel is trying to do.

My main thought is that more than any other conflict I can think of, regarding Israel and Palestinians it is very difficult to tell the news from the spin.

Nothing with me has changed since I read that propaganda piece (it wasn’t particularly egregious IMO) and supplemented it with a variety of sources.

I now consider myself to be a somewhat radicalized Zionist. I’m aware that the IDF is held to standards that no other country — including America — is held to. Yeah, the dead aid workers sucks but so did IDF forces gunning down three of their comrades early on. This does suggest a strong motivation for revenge but I can’t blame them for it.

I don’t see how a “two-state solution” would be anything less than national suicide. Jews don’t live anywhere else in the Middle East which says a lot about Jews “living in peace” with Muslims. These “river to the sea” Palestinians haven’t given up for three quarters of a century now, so at this point I say fuck ‘em. Ethnic cleanse their asses out of Gaza and the West Bank and plant them in Jordan

Your thoughts on this would be appreciated!

Oh yeah, and Bibi sucks!

Hear me now and believe me later: I'm telling you, the chance of this actually happening this election year are close to ZERO.