Comments on: Friday Talking Points -- Last Clown Standing

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:49:20 +0000

Heh.

By: C. R. Stucki

C. R. Stucki — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:14:42 +0000

Liz

Sounds good to me. I've always been attracted to girls with small feet, and large, er, upper dimensions!

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 21:37:17 +0000

CRS,

Yeah, we're all responsible when it comes to the burning of fossil fuels - some of us a lot more so than others.

My carbon footprint is extremely small, bordering on the negligible. :(

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 21:33:55 +0000

There is no point in being vegan, thank God, until we stop burning fossil fuels.

Is there some place we can discuss the Middle East?

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 17:19:55 +0000

NYpoet22-

And I hope you don't eat rice.

All the sources of human produced methane are large slices of the pie, animals happen to be the largest slice but only by little bit...

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 16:39:20 +0000

@baahi,

If you're truly concerned about methane I hope you're vegan.

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 16:19:27 +0000

Stucki-

Not true. A lot of methane is released during oil extraction and is greenhouse gas more damaging than CO2...

By: C. R. Stucki

C. R. Stucki — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 16:03:16 +0000

Italy

Remember pumping oil does not contribute to global warming in the slightest, it's only the BURNING of fossil fuels that puts carbon in the atmosphere.

And in case you haven't noticed, those "largest oil and gas companies in the world" are NOT the ones burning the stuff - that's you and me!!

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 10:57:08 +0000

Reminds me of Margaret Atwood's mad Adam series and the Church of the holy petroleum

By: italyrusty

italyrusty — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 09:02:43 +0000

I missed this news at the time, but I nominate for at least a retroactive honorable mention for MIDOW to the California Attorney General (Did you miss this news about your home state, too, Chris?).
'Joined by California Governor Newsom, California Attorney General Rob Bonta today announced the filing of a lawsuit against five of the largest oil and gas companies in the world — Exxon Mobil, Shell, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, and BP — and the American Petroleum Institute (API) for allegedly engaging in a decades-long campaign of deception and creating statewide climate change-related harms in California. Filed in San Francisco County Superior Court, the complaint asserts that although the companies have known since at least the 1960s that the burning of fossil fuels would warm the planet and change our climate, they denied or downplayed climate change in public statements and marketing.'
https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-bonta-announces-lawsuit-against-oil-and-gas-companies

By: dsws

dsws — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 02:36:16 +0000

I don't see why it matters whether one representative can enter a motion to vacate the chair. It matters whether there is any motion they can enter repeatedly, delaying all other business like a pre-1970s filibuster. But if there are ordinary rules saying that once your motion has been voted down it's someone else's turn to enter a motion, then who cares? The problem isn't that they could enter the motion. The problem is that, either until there's some modicum of bipartisanship or until the next election, they have the votes. I also don't see the Republicans having any kind of trouble. This is what they do all the time. It's a more extreme version of what they do all the time, but that itself is what they do all the time: they get more extreme. The "mainstream" Republicans always go along with whatever the more-extreme Republicans want, thereby becoming the new batch of "mainstream" Republicans. That's what they're going to do this time, too. Rinse and repeat.

By: Mezzomamma

Mezzomamma — Sat, 14 Oct 2023 04:30:48 +0000

andygaus may well have it right. Another 'solution' would be to elect someone who is retiring or stepping down at the end of this term. Sure, that would just delay facing the issue, but a different mix after the next general election might make all the difference to selecting a leader. And either of these is too rational for the extremists.

One would hope the House Rs can't get worse after the next election, but.... And of course one hopes they would have deservedly lost the majority.

By: andygaus

andygaus — Sat, 14 Oct 2023 02:49:46 +0000

I predict the Patrick McHenry solution. By voting for him, they aren't committing to anyone including him. It would be the easiest way to make a deal because everybody would have a good excuse for having done so and anyone could say he wasn't really the right person.

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Sat, 14 Oct 2023 01:13:50 +0000

Addendum to tp7: if you're not comfortable causing with us, at least form a faction in your own party who will actually respect us and commit to finding common ground.