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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/10/04/nihilists-gotta-nihil-2/#comment-204405</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2023 02:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua,

&lt;i&gt;it&#039;s about the right of self-determination that every free nation is entitled to, and standing up to tyranny however it&#039;s humanly possible to do so. if it&#039;s actually the case that public opinion in support of freedom and justice is waning, then it&#039;s time to change public opinion.&lt;/i&gt;

Unfortunately, it&#039;s not as simple as all that.

As for public opinion, support for freedom and justice is probably pretty high. But, people today have seen too many long wars in their lifetime and plenty of bad US policy that led to them with precious little to show for it.

How do you change public opinion and make the American people see that continued US military and financial support of Ukraine is in their best interests?

I think you start to do that by clarifying what the mission is and explaining how that mission will be accomplished. So far, neither the Biden administration nor its NATO allies have been able to do that. I don&#039;t think they have the first clue. And, that is a recipe for disaster.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua,</p>
<p><i>it's about the right of self-determination that every free nation is entitled to, and standing up to tyranny however it's humanly possible to do so. if it's actually the case that public opinion in support of freedom and justice is waning, then it's time to change public opinion.</i></p>
<p>Unfortunately, it's not as simple as all that.</p>
<p>As for public opinion, support for freedom and justice is probably pretty high. But, people today have seen too many long wars in their lifetime and plenty of bad US policy that led to them with precious little to show for it.</p>
<p>How do you change public opinion and make the American people see that continued US military and financial support of Ukraine is in their best interests?</p>
<p>I think you start to do that by clarifying what the mission is and explaining how that mission will be accomplished. So far, neither the Biden administration nor its NATO allies have been able to do that. I don't think they have the first clue. And, that is a recipe for disaster.  </p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/10/04/nihilists-gotta-nihil-2/#comment-204403</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2023 01:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

I think the former is more likely ... or something very similar to it. 

Now, I don&#039;t mean to say that particular outcome would be the endgame for Ukraine for all eternity. But, given the alternatives at this point, it&#039;s not a bad &#039;starting&#039; point.

If this latest long war scenario plays out for years rather than weeks or months, however, the long term prospects for Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity I think are greatly reduced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I think the former is more likely ... or something very similar to it. </p>
<p>Now, I don't mean to say that particular outcome would be the endgame for Ukraine for all eternity. But, given the alternatives at this point, it's not a bad 'starting' point.</p>
<p>If this latest long war scenario plays out for years rather than weeks or months, however, the long term prospects for Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity I think are greatly reduced.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 21:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[8]  Status quo ante 2022_02_23, or status quo ante 2014_02_19?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[8]  Status quo ante 2022_02_23, or status quo ante 2014_02_19?</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/10/04/nihilists-gotta-nihil-2/#comment-204398</link>
		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 21:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nations don&#039;t have rights.  You can say that nations have rights, or you can say that people have rights, but when push comes to shove (and it does, sooner rather than later), you can&#039;t have it both ways.

It&#039;s about whether our species is going to die off in a nuclear omnicide within the next few decades.  Russia, without its empire, is a third-rate regional power.  Its only real asset is nuclear blackmail.  There are &lt;i&gt;a lot&lt;/i&gt; of third-rate regional powers in the world.  If we make it clear that careless nuclear blackmail now works miracles for third-rate regional powers whose conventional military capabilities have been rotted away by corruption, enough of them will get the message, and Mutual Assured Destruction will not have any chance of working.  

We will all die.  

Well, I&#039;m old and obese, so I&#039;ll die even sooner.  But, unless we resist Russia&#039;s nuclear blackmail much better than we have been, I&#039;ll die in a world where no one who&#039;s young now will ever have a great-grandchild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nations don't have rights.  You can say that nations have rights, or you can say that people have rights, but when push comes to shove (and it does, sooner rather than later), you can't have it both ways.</p>
<p>It's about whether our species is going to die off in a nuclear omnicide within the next few decades.  Russia, without its empire, is a third-rate regional power.  Its only real asset is nuclear blackmail.  There are <i>a lot</i> of third-rate regional powers in the world.  If we make it clear that careless nuclear blackmail now works miracles for third-rate regional powers whose conventional military capabilities have been rotted away by corruption, enough of them will get the message, and Mutual Assured Destruction will not have any chance of working.  </p>
<p>We will all die.  </p>
<p>Well, I'm old and obese, so I'll die even sooner.  But, unless we resist Russia's nuclear blackmail much better than we have been, I'll die in a world where no one who's young now will ever have a great-grandchild.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 18:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s about the right of self-determination that every free nation is entitled to, and standing up to tyranny however it&#039;s humanly possible to do so. if it&#039;s actually the case that public opinion in support of freedom and justice is waning, then it&#039;s time to change public opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it's about the right of self-determination that every free nation is entitled to, and standing up to tyranny however it's humanly possible to do so. if it's actually the case that public opinion in support of freedom and justice is waning, then it's time to change public opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/10/04/nihilists-gotta-nihil-2/#comment-204395</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 15:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has never been about how much money Ukraine needs or how expansive Ukraine policy should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has never been about how much money Ukraine needs or how expansive Ukraine policy should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 15:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua, you still don&#039;t get what I am saying. Maybe you will when this war finally ends with pretty much the status quo ante.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, you still don't get what I am saying. Maybe you will when this war finally ends with pretty much the status quo ante.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 15:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe after the first three words you stopped paying attention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe after the first three words you stopped paying attention?</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 15:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re right liz, allowing vladimir putin to conquer and subjugate his neighbors would be a much less expensive policy. oh, wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you're right liz, allowing vladimir putin to conquer and subjugate his neighbors would be a much less expensive policy. oh, wait...</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/10/04/nihilists-gotta-nihil-2/#comment-204391</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 13:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Dems want to keep the Ukraine war funding flowing, McCarthy may have been their best hope when it come to the speakership of the House. It doesn&#039;t seem like any other possible Republican speaker will be for continuing that policy.

Besides, there is waning public support for the Ukraine war effort, anyways. And, you know what Biden always says ... no foreign policy objective can be long sustained, no matter how worthwhile, without the informed consent of the American people ... &lt;i&gt;worthwhile&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;informed&lt;/i&gt; being the suspect and key words, respectively.

Ukraine still has about 5 billion in US support to use up (thanks to the Pentagon accounting error!) and the seized Iranian small arms ammunition that the US will transfer to Ukraine - maybe that will finally make the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Dems want to keep the Ukraine war funding flowing, McCarthy may have been their best hope when it come to the speakership of the House. It doesn't seem like any other possible Republican speaker will be for continuing that policy.</p>
<p>Besides, there is waning public support for the Ukraine war effort, anyways. And, you know what Biden always says ... no foreign policy objective can be long sustained, no matter how worthwhile, without the informed consent of the American people ... <i>worthwhile</i> and <i>informed</i> being the suspect and key words, respectively.</p>
<p>Ukraine still has about 5 billion in US support to use up (thanks to the Pentagon accounting error!) and the seized Iranian small arms ammunition that the US will transfer to Ukraine - maybe that will finally make the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 08:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me as though the most likely outcome is that the chaos caucus decides who they want (for now, until they change their mind), the rest of the Republicans go along with it, the Democrats keep on just voting for their guy, and we have a speaker who wants shutdown and default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me as though the most likely outcome is that the chaos caucus decides who they want (for now, until they change their mind), the rest of the Republicans go along with it, the Democrats keep on just voting for their guy, and we have a speaker who wants shutdown and default.</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 03:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus/Chaos Caucus doesn’t relent then one of the following two things will have to happen.
 
(1) Most likely a handful of vulnerable Democrats will cross the aisle to support a negotiated moderate (read grown up) or else,




(2) It’s highly unlikely that a handful of vulnerable Republicans cross the aisle to support…Hakeem Jeffries? 





I know I know, it objectively is a long shot. But &lt;i&gt;somebody has to at least do the bare minimum in the House.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus/Chaos Caucus doesn’t relent then one of the following two things will have to happen.</p>
<p>(1) Most likely a handful of vulnerable Democrats will cross the aisle to support a negotiated moderate (read grown up) or else,</p>
<p>(2) It’s highly unlikely that a handful of vulnerable Republicans cross the aisle to support…Hakeem Jeffries? </p>
<p>I know I know, it objectively is a long shot. But <i>somebody has to at least do the bare minimum in the House.</i></p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 03:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would it take to get Democrats to find a relatively-moderate Republican to support for speaker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would it take to get Democrats to find a relatively-moderate Republican to support for speaker?</p>
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		<title>By: andygaus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 01:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s assumed that the speaker &lt;i&gt;pro tempore&lt;/i&gt; will simply conduct the election of a new speaker and be done. But the election could be stalemated long enough that the speaker &lt;i&gt;pro tempore&lt;/i&gt; might have to deal with getting some kind of budget through. Actually, that would be the most graceful solution, because the speaker &lt;i&gt;pro tempore&lt;/i&gt;, unlike the actual speaker, cannot be subjected to a vote of no confidence called for by a single representative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's assumed that the speaker <i>pro tempore</i> will simply conduct the election of a new speaker and be done. But the election could be stalemated long enough that the speaker <i>pro tempore</i> might have to deal with getting some kind of budget through. Actually, that would be the most graceful solution, because the speaker <i>pro tempore</i>, unlike the actual speaker, cannot be subjected to a vote of no confidence called for by a single representative.</p>
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