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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203438</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 19:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay.</description>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203437</link>
		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 19:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth, no offense taken. I’m going to check out this guy as I’ve never heard of him. As far as the lack of progress Ukraine is up against built up defenses. Last year’s successes are a tough act to follow but we’re in June not October. So be patient — this was always going to start out slowly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth, no offense taken. I’m going to check out this guy as I’ve never heard of him. As far as the lack of progress Ukraine is up against built up defenses. Last year’s successes are a tough act to follow but we’re in June not October. So be patient — this was always going to start out slowly.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203436</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 19:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bashi,

&lt;i&gt;Your &quot;source&quot; as referenced in [9] is criticizing the territorial gains of the counter offensive without any further information or context.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s on me - I am the one who didn&#039;t provide you context or more of his latest piece.

By the way, Ukrainian news outlets are now state-controlled, just like in Russia. So, yes, there is propaganda on both sides and there is the fog of war, blah, blah, blah...and the Pentagon!

I thought it was quite obvious by now that when I put quotes around something and refer to &quot;my source&quot;, everyone here who&#039;s been following along should know precisely who I am quoting. Heh.

It may soon be time to post another one of his missives here in its entirety! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bashi,</p>
<p><i>Your "source" as referenced in [9] is criticizing the territorial gains of the counter offensive without any further information or context.</i></p>
<p>That's on me - I am the one who didn't provide you context or more of his latest piece.</p>
<p>By the way, Ukrainian news outlets are now state-controlled, just like in Russia. So, yes, there is propaganda on both sides and there is the fog of war, blah, blah, blah...and the Pentagon!</p>
<p>I thought it was quite obvious by now that when I put quotes around something and refer to "my source", everyone here who's been following along should know precisely who I am quoting. Heh.</p>
<p>It may soon be time to post another one of his missives here in its entirety! :)</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203435</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 19:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz,

Your &quot;source&quot; as referenced in [9] is criticizing the territorial gains of the counter offensive without any further information or context. A quick search says that beyond the total area, nine villages were retaken. We, and your &quot;source&quot;, don&#039;t know the strategy of the Ukrainian forces. Is 130km good? Bad? On plan? Against it? Most of the western press is painting it as slow but showing gains. Your &quot;source&quot; is trying to paint it as a failure which is a take on the story that I only see in the Russian and Russian friendly sources. Sure both sides do propaganda, but from what I have seen, Ukraine is careful that the vast majority of their news releases tie out. Russia, on the other hand is trying to get to Trumpian levels bullshit from Putin all the way down to state controlled news sources. 

I strongly suspect that your quote is from William Bradley as UC Berkeley, Sacramento and greater California feature prominently in his bio. Why hide behind &quot;source&quot; when it&#039;s pretty obvious where your quote comes from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz,</p>
<p>Your "source" as referenced in [9] is criticizing the territorial gains of the counter offensive without any further information or context. A quick search says that beyond the total area, nine villages were retaken. We, and your "source", don't know the strategy of the Ukrainian forces. Is 130km good? Bad? On plan? Against it? Most of the western press is painting it as slow but showing gains. Your "source" is trying to paint it as a failure which is a take on the story that I only see in the Russian and Russian friendly sources. Sure both sides do propaganda, but from what I have seen, Ukraine is careful that the vast majority of their news releases tie out. Russia, on the other hand is trying to get to Trumpian levels bullshit from Putin all the way down to state controlled news sources. </p>
<p>I strongly suspect that your quote is from William Bradley as UC Berkeley, Sacramento and greater California feature prominently in his bio. Why hide behind "source" when it's pretty obvious where your quote comes from?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203434</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that cluster bombs have already been used by Russia and Ukraine in this war but not extensively. If that changes and cluster munitions become the weapon of choice, then which side has more to worry about, given the stalled state of the current Ukrainian counteroffensive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that cluster bombs have already been used by Russia and Ukraine in this war but not extensively. If that changes and cluster munitions become the weapon of choice, then which side has more to worry about, given the stalled state of the current Ukrainian counteroffensive?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203433</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/29/politics/cluster-munitions-biden-administration-ukraine/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Biden may send cluster munitions to Ukraine&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;m not sure what message such a decision would send but, to me it says that desperate situations call for desperate measures.

Cluster munitions? Are you kidding me!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/29/politics/cluster-munitions-biden-administration-ukraine/index.html" rel="nofollow">Biden may send cluster munitions to Ukraine</a></p>
<p>I'm not sure what message such a decision would send but, to me it says that desperate situations call for desperate measures.</p>
<p>Cluster munitions? Are you kidding me!?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203432</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, Bashi, I use many, many sources. And, I have been learning about these issues for a long time so I have built up a modicum of enough knowledge to be able to form my own opinions.

But, I&#039;m not clear on what your point is in [14] ... would you mind elaborating?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, Bashi, I use many, many sources. And, I have been learning about these issues for a long time so I have built up a modicum of enough knowledge to be able to form my own opinions.</p>
<p>But, I'm not clear on what your point is in [14] ... would you mind elaborating?</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203431</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz,

I hope your source is not William Bradley as that guy  has more red flags than a communist party rally.

Regardless, wait until your source learns about territorial gains and losses during WWI offensives counteroffensives, not to mention casualties. Beyond that do they tell you what was recaptured? 130km of open countryside is no where as impressive and 10km of city/town/village...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz,</p>
<p>I hope your source is not William Bradley as that guy  has more red flags than a communist party rally.</p>
<p>Regardless, wait until your source learns about territorial gains and losses during WWI offensives counteroffensives, not to mention casualties. Beyond that do they tell you what was recaptured? 130km of open countryside is no where as impressive and 10km of city/town/village...</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203430</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 16:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caddy,

I wish to apologize again for that cheap shot above. Sometimes, I just can&#039;t help myself. :(

So, I&#039;d like to share with you a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTwp1bml7BQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CEIP video&lt;/a&gt; discussion detailing the view from Kiev and, more specifically, from the office of the Ukrainian president which was conducted just this morning ...

I&#039;ll keep the Scott Ritter interview on Real News I stumbled across, ah, off the table, for now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caddy,</p>
<p>I wish to apologize again for that cheap shot above. Sometimes, I just can't help myself. :(</p>
<p>So, I'd like to share with you a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTwp1bml7BQ" rel="nofollow">CEIP video</a> discussion detailing the view from Kiev and, more specifically, from the office of the Ukrainian president which was conducted just this morning ...</p>
<p>I'll keep the Scott Ritter interview on Real News I stumbled across, ah, off the table, for now. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203429</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A non-zero chance, eh? Now, THAT is what&#039;s called a classic hedge. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A non-zero chance, eh? Now, THAT is what's called a classic hedge. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bleyd</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203427</link>
		<dc:creator>Bleyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 13:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a non-zero chance that Trump might be in a prison cell by the time the presidential debates come around, so he&#039;d have a perfect excuse to not attend them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a non-zero chance that Trump might be in a prison cell by the time the presidential debates come around, so he'd have a perfect excuse to not attend them.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203426</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 05:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Caddy ... in one of my moods, again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Caddy ... in one of my moods, again.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203425</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 05:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That WH photographer will soon have to find some other word to evoke that infamous Biden smile ...

My source wrote a piece today about the counteroffensive, nearly four weeks on:  

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...along with big losses in Ukrainian soldiers and US/NATO weaponry, the Ukrainian counteroffensive has yielded, here and there, 130 square kilometers in claimed territorial gains. That’s equivalent to one-fifth of Lake Tahoe, my boyhood vacation spot in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Or one-half of Sacramento, California’s state capital and America’s 35th most populous city. Or three times the size of Berkeley, home to one of my alma maters.

&quot;Or, put another way, nearly four weeks of Ukrainian counteroffensive has liberated cumulative territory that is just about the size of Disney World.

&quot;But, as the theme song goes, “Tomorrow’s just a dream away.&lt;/i&gt;” Indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That WH photographer will soon have to find some other word to evoke that infamous Biden smile ...</p>
<p>My source wrote a piece today about the counteroffensive, nearly four weeks on:  </p>
<p><i>"...along with big losses in Ukrainian soldiers and US/NATO weaponry, the Ukrainian counteroffensive has yielded, here and there, 130 square kilometers in claimed territorial gains. That’s equivalent to one-fifth of Lake Tahoe, my boyhood vacation spot in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Or one-half of Sacramento, California’s state capital and America’s 35th most populous city. Or three times the size of Berkeley, home to one of my alma maters.</p>
<p>"Or, put another way, nearly four weeks of Ukrainian counteroffensive has liberated cumulative territory that is just about the size of Disney World.</p>
<p>"But, as the theme song goes, “Tomorrow’s just a dream away.</i>” Indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203424</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 04:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203423</link>
		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 04:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my sources says the White House photographer usually says the word “Ukraine” to elicit that Biden winning smile, Elizabeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my sources says the White House photographer usually says the word “Ukraine” to elicit that Biden winning smile, Elizabeth.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203422</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 04:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably not, but wouldn&#039;t you just love to see another Trump-Biden debate! Oh man, I can see it now ... Biden flashing that notorious smile of his from ear to ear through most of it, you know, when he&#039;s not schooling everyone on the Republican cult of economic failure. 

I don&#039;t know what it is about that Biden smile but I just can&#039;t seem to get enough of it ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably not, but wouldn't you just love to see another Trump-Biden debate! Oh man, I can see it now ... Biden flashing that notorious smile of his from ear to ear through most of it, you know, when he's not schooling everyone on the Republican cult of economic failure. </p>
<p>I don't know what it is about that Biden smile but I just can't seem to get enough of it ...</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203421</link>
		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 04:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trump is not going to win next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump is not going to win next year.</p>
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		<title>By: John M from Ct.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M from Ct.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Trump does get the nomination, it will be interesting to see how many people in the media and political world will focus on the fact that Trump is running for dictator of America, not president. He&#039;s shown that by his staging of the January 6 attempted coup.

If he is elected, and lives to 2028, he&#039;s likely to declare himself president for life, and to cancel the election. Long before that, starting with his inauguration in 2025, he will have worked tirelessly to corrupt and subdue the US government to make it his personal instrument for dictatorial-style rule. He&#039;s shown that by everything he&#039;s said and done since taking office in 2017.

Under those circumstances, who among our public and private officials will be honest enough and/or brave enough to declare that his candidacy is inherently flawed and deserves no respect, attention, or publicity beyond what is required by law - and to hell with the entire Republican Party and whoever else says he&#039;s a genuine &quot;nominee&quot; for the office of president and must be treated as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Trump does get the nomination, it will be interesting to see how many people in the media and political world will focus on the fact that Trump is running for dictator of America, not president. He's shown that by his staging of the January 6 attempted coup.</p>
<p>If he is elected, and lives to 2028, he's likely to declare himself president for life, and to cancel the election. Long before that, starting with his inauguration in 2025, he will have worked tirelessly to corrupt and subdue the US government to make it his personal instrument for dictatorial-style rule. He's shown that by everything he's said and done since taking office in 2017.</p>
<p>Under those circumstances, who among our public and private officials will be honest enough and/or brave enough to declare that his candidacy is inherently flawed and deserves no respect, attention, or publicity beyond what is required by law - and to hell with the entire Republican Party and whoever else says he's a genuine "nominee" for the office of president and must be treated as such.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/29/will-there-be-any-meaningful-presidential-debates/#comment-203419</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In such situations [as the incumbent president running for re-election], it is typical for the party to forgo any primary debates, which is precisely what the Democrats have announced this time around. There are two other candidates ... -- Marianne Williamson and Robert F. Kennedy Junior ... Biden debating them would be fairly pointless ...&lt;/i&gt;

How about RFK Jr. and Marianne Williamson fight it out in a debate and then Biden debates the winner ... it would be fun and Biden could dominate either one and emphasize the points he wants to. Like, for example, why the Republicans are a cult of economic failure. He could pretend he&#039;s debating Trump, in other words. And, besides that, what engaged Republican voter wouldn&#039;t want to be tuning in to see it! Who cares if any Dem voters watch.

I&#039;m gonna chalk it up to just another missed opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In such situations [as the incumbent president running for re-election], it is typical for the party to forgo any primary debates, which is precisely what the Democrats have announced this time around. There are two other candidates ... -- Marianne Williamson and Robert F. Kennedy Junior ... Biden debating them would be fairly pointless ...</i></p>
<p>How about RFK Jr. and Marianne Williamson fight it out in a debate and then Biden debates the winner ... it would be fun and Biden could dominate either one and emphasize the points he wants to. Like, for example, why the Republicans are a cult of economic failure. He could pretend he's debating Trump, in other words. And, besides that, what engaged Republican voter wouldn't want to be tuning in to see it! Who cares if any Dem voters watch.</p>
<p>I'm gonna chalk it up to just another missed opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or for that matter, how many of them realize the fight was happening, is over, and might leave their entire establishment permanently paralyzed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or for that matter, how many of them realize the fight was happening, is over, and might leave their entire establishment permanently paralyzed.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the war between Donald Trump and the fourth estate, he seems to have defeated it soundly. The question to me is whether our country&#039;s press can possibly pick itself up off the mat and fight again next time.</description>
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