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	<title>Comments on: Friday Talking Points -- The Freedom To Choose</title>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203390</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, okay then</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, okay then</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203389</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, it&#039;s not. don&#039;t get all despondent about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, it's not. don't get all despondent about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203387</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.</description>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203385</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth Miller
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&lt;i&gt;My source&#039;s forecasting record is intact - isn&#039;t this just what happened!? &lt;/i&gt;

Nope... record not intact. 
Nope... not what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth Miller<br />
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<p><i>My source's forecasting record is intact - isn't this just what happened!? </i></p>
<p>Nope... record not intact.<br />
Nope... not what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203384</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>italyrusty
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&lt;i&gt;With all due respect to CW, I don&#039;t think &quot;forced birth&quot; really moves the needle; too many Southerners are proud of the Confederacy and have no problem slave owners having used their female slaves as breeding stock. &lt;/i&gt;

Take it from a female from the South, the term/talking point &quot;forced birth&quot; definitely moves the needle with voters who are actually persuadable; those Southerners you speak of who are &quot;proud&quot; of the Confederacy and of females being used as &quot;breeding stock&quot; aren&#039;t generally likely to vote for Democrats anyway.

&quot;Rapists&#039; rights&quot; is another one that hits the mark... as used in a sentence: 

By taking away the freedom of American families to make their own reproductive health care decisions, MAGA Republicans are making victims of our mothers, sisters, and daughters and creating rapists&#039; rights by legislating forced birth from the acts of criminals, and as long as I&#039;m your __________ [president, governor, senator, representative], I will veto any attempt to force a female to be a breeder against her will and make her a victim, first by her rapist and second by her government.

Or something similar to that. No woman should be forced for any reason to give birth against her will; it&#039;s that simple. 

If someone is actually so-called &quot;pro-life,&quot; then their definition of &quot;life&quot; should most definitely expand to include females and not just zygotes, fetuses, and the unborn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>italyrusty<br />
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<p><i>With all due respect to CW, I don't think "forced birth" really moves the needle; too many Southerners are proud of the Confederacy and have no problem slave owners having used their female slaves as breeding stock. </i></p>
<p>Take it from a female from the South, the term/talking point "forced birth" definitely moves the needle with voters who are actually persuadable; those Southerners you speak of who are "proud" of the Confederacy and of females being used as "breeding stock" aren't generally likely to vote for Democrats anyway.</p>
<p>"Rapists' rights" is another one that hits the mark... as used in a sentence: </p>
<p>By taking away the freedom of American families to make their own reproductive health care decisions, MAGA Republicans are making victims of our mothers, sisters, and daughters and creating rapists' rights by legislating forced birth from the acts of criminals, and as long as I'm your __________ [president, governor, senator, representative], I will veto any attempt to force a female to be a breeder against her will and make her a victim, first by her rapist and second by her government.</p>
<p>Or something similar to that. No woman should be forced for any reason to give birth against her will; it's that simple. </p>
<p>If someone is actually so-called "pro-life," then their definition of "life" should most definitely expand to include females and not just zygotes, fetuses, and the unborn.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203376</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Ah, so this is what ends up happening when you take an attention addict ex-con who was never in the military and make him head of your shiny new version of the American Blackwater mercenary company.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; ... my special source

My favourite quote on the subject, so far ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"<i>Ah, so this is what ends up happening when you take an attention addict ex-con who was never in the military and make him head of your shiny new version of the American Blackwater mercenary company.</i>" ... my special source</p>
<p>My favourite quote on the subject, so far ... :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203375</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome, still lots of questions to be answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're welcome, still lots of questions to be answered.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203373</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, not a bad read.</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203371</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 18:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Chris will write about it eventually, so ...

Joshua, here&#039;s a piece about the &lt;a href=&quot;https://apnews.com/article/prigozhin-belarus-russia-putin-72474bdd56d6cd5c8759d4bfd0a2e18c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Belarus deal to take in the leader of the attempted rebellion in Russia&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Chris will write about it eventually, so ...</p>
<p>Joshua, here's a piece about the <a href="https://apnews.com/article/prigozhin-belarus-russia-putin-72474bdd56d6cd5c8759d4bfd0a2e18c" rel="nofollow">Belarus deal to take in the leader of the attempted rebellion in Russia</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Speak2</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203368</link>
		<dc:creator>Speak2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 05:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putin was weakened, dramatically.

They came, he fled.

To the people of Moscow, an invading &quot;ally&quot; can come in and take Moscow at any time (fear).

Wagner couldn&#039;t take Moscow and they knew it going in.

Well played!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putin was weakened, dramatically.</p>
<p>They came, he fled.</p>
<p>To the people of Moscow, an invading "ally" can come in and take Moscow at any time (fear).</p>
<p>Wagner couldn't take Moscow and they knew it going in.</p>
<p>Well played!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203367</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 04:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, enough about all of this until Chris writes about it, okay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, enough about all of this until Chris writes about it, okay?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203366</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amusing to watch how cable news is hyping all of this to the hilt.

What about the counteroffensive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's amusing to watch how cable news is hyping all of this to the hilt.</p>
<p>What about the counteroffensive?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203365</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 04:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, for how long ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, for how long ...</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203364</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 04:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putin knows how to survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putin knows how to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203363</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 04:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if so, that&#039;s not a particularly good read on how vlad putin does things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if so, that's not a particularly good read on how vlad putin does things.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203362</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 04:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always spell Kiefer&#039;s name wrong, without fail. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always spell Kiefer's name wrong, without fail. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203361</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time will tell. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time will tell. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203360</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some insight on that from a trusted and reliable source and I&#039;m paraphrasing here and using direct quotes...

&lt;i&gt;Prigozhin is a fan of the wonderful TV drama starring Keifer Sutherland, ‘24’ but he has cast himself in the Jon Voight role, the head of a mercenary company styled after the real life Blackwater outfit. 

&quot;No longer content to be a wink-wink deniable component of US geopolitical black ops, the Voight character exploits a vulnerable situation to try to force his way into a permanent, institutionalized role at the highest level of Washington decision-making.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

My source&#039;s forecasting record is intact - isn&#039;t this just what happened!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some insight on that from a trusted and reliable source and I'm paraphrasing here and using direct quotes...</p>
<p><i>Prigozhin is a fan of the wonderful TV drama starring Keifer Sutherland, ‘24’ but he has cast himself in the Jon Voight role, the head of a mercenary company styled after the real life Blackwater outfit. </p>
<p>"No longer content to be a wink-wink deniable component of US geopolitical black ops, the Voight character exploits a vulnerable situation to try to force his way into a permanent, institutionalized role at the highest level of Washington decision-making."</i></p>
<p>My source's forecasting record is intact - isn't this just what happened!?</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203359</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to have been a real rebellion, if short lived. to me it&#039;s just weird, and leaves me to wonder just what set it off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to have been a real rebellion, if short lived. to me it's just weird, and leaves me to wonder just what set it off</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203358</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about ... wishful thinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about ... wishful thinking!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203357</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, label the struggle instead of the practice of restricting and banning abortion rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, label the struggle instead of the practice of restricting and banning abortion rights.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203356</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any word on Wagner group rebellion?</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203355</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Clitoral Revolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Clitoral Revolution?</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203354</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 02:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birth panels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birth panels?</p>
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		<title>By: Mezzomamma</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203346</link>
		<dc:creator>Mezzomamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 07:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baby machine movement? Government womb control?</description>
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		<title>By: italyrusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>italyrusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 07:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nypoet22 [2]:  I agree that the &quot;pro-choice&quot; movement needs a new label.  With all due respect to CW, I don&#039;t think &quot;forced birth&quot; really moves the needle; too many Southerners are proud of the Confederacy and have no problem slave owners having used their female slaves as breeding stock.

I haven&#039;t come up with anything, still hoping someone with more imagination and a &quot;way with words&quot; will succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nypoet22 [2]:  I agree that the "pro-choice" movement needs a new label.  With all due respect to CW, I don't think "forced birth" really moves the needle; too many Southerners are proud of the Confederacy and have no problem slave owners having used their female slaves as breeding stock.</p>
<p>I haven't come up with anything, still hoping someone with more imagination and a "way with words" will succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 02:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would remove the word &quot;choice&quot; altogether, as freedom is a much stronger term.

female freedom vs. forced-birth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would remove the word "choice" altogether, as freedom is a much stronger term.</p>
<p>female freedom vs. forced-birth</p>
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		<title>By: Speak2</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/23/friday-talking-points-the-freedom-to-choose/#comment-203341</link>
		<dc:creator>Speak2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 02:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TP[1]
When losing Roe v Wade was theoretical, you couldn&#039;t motivate people with next steps.

Now, from the rooftops it needs to be screamed.

Taking away Contraception: On the table.
Taking away No-Fault Divorce: On the table.

Who knows what&#039;s next? Maybe a husband&#039;s signature will be required to have a credit card.</description>
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When losing Roe v Wade was theoretical, you couldn't motivate people with next steps.</p>
<p>Now, from the rooftops it needs to be screamed.</p>
<p>Taking away Contraception: On the table.<br />
Taking away No-Fault Divorce: On the table.</p>
<p>Who knows what's next? Maybe a husband's signature will be required to have a credit card.</p>
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