Comments on: One Year After Roe Was Overturned http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/ Reality-based political commentary Wed, 08 Apr 2026 02:46:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203374 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:46:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203374 Indeed. Indeed.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203372 nypoet22 Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:32:36 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203372 At the time i wondered at the irony. At the time i wondered at the irony.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203370 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 25 Jun 2023 18:53:08 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203370 Joshua, <i>israel has been under siege in one form or another for seventy-five years, and every time they've tried to make peace it's been rejected by nearly the entire arab world (egypt in 1979 was the sole exception). their choice has been fight or cease to exist, and ukraine faces the same choice.</i> Well, as you know, Israel tried to mediate a negotiated political settlement to this war last year. The effort was essentially ignored by Biden. And, now, as you've probably already read, Israel will <a href="https://www.jpost.com/international/article-747613" rel="nofollow">reprimand</a> the Ukrainian ambassador for making comments that betray an ignorance about how Israeli national interests don't always align with Ukraine's national interest. Joshua,

israel has been under siege in one form or another for seventy-five years, and every time they've tried to make peace it's been rejected by nearly the entire arab world (egypt in 1979 was the sole exception). their choice has been fight or cease to exist, and ukraine faces the same choice.

Well, as you know, Israel tried to mediate a negotiated political settlement to this war last year. The effort was essentially ignored by Biden.

And, now, as you've probably already read, Israel will reprimand the Ukrainian ambassador for making comments that betray an ignorance about how Israeli national interests don't always align with Ukraine's national interest.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203340 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 24 Jun 2023 01:43:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203340 Well, it appears that Z and Biden agree with your assessment. Well, it appears that Z and Biden agree with your assessment.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203334 nypoet22 Fri, 23 Jun 2023 18:07:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203334 @liz[fpc], <i>Right. Forever war is the better option. ;)</i> better than ceasing to exist as a nation? absolutely. right now, those are the only two options on the table. it takes two to make peace and only one to make war; literally nothing zelenskiy or biden could have done (or can do right now) would make one iota of impact on putin's intent to eliminate ukranian nationhood. israel has been under siege in one form or another for seventy-five years, and every time they've tried to make peace it's been rejected by nearly the entire arab world (egypt in 1979 was the sole exception). their choice has been fight or cease to exist, and ukraine faces the same choice. JL @liz[fpc],

Right. Forever war is the better option. ;)

better than ceasing to exist as a nation? absolutely. right now, those are the only two options on the table. it takes two to make peace and only one to make war; literally nothing zelenskiy or biden could have done (or can do right now) would make one iota of impact on putin's intent to eliminate ukranian nationhood.

israel has been under siege in one form or another for seventy-five years, and every time they've tried to make peace it's been rejected by nearly the entire arab world (egypt in 1979 was the sole exception). their choice has been fight or cease to exist, and ukraine faces the same choice.

JL

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203332 nypoet22 Fri, 23 Jun 2023 17:20:51 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203332 it's one thing to argue fetal personhood theoretically, but when it comes to actual impact on people's lives, freedom from forced-birth is a winning issue. it's one thing to argue fetal personhood theoretically, but when it comes to actual impact on people's lives, freedom from forced-birth is a winning issue.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203330 Elizabeth Miller Fri, 23 Jun 2023 14:04:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203330 And, yet, despite all of those paths to oblivion, Trump beats Biden by six freakin' points in the latest non-partisan poll results ... sigh. And, yet, despite all of those paths to oblivion, Trump beats Biden by six freakin' points in the latest non-partisan poll results ... sigh.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203329 Elizabeth Miller Fri, 23 Jun 2023 13:05:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203329 There are so many paths to Republican oblivion ... without even mentioning the <b>Republican cult of economic failure</b>! There are so many paths to Republican oblivion ... without even mentioning the Republican cult of economic failure!

]]> By: Mezzomamma http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203328 Mezzomamma Fri, 23 Jun 2023 05:01:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203328 There are already plenty of stories of <i>wanted</i> pregnancies which go wrong but the woman is denied essential healthcare--a risky early delivery or an abortion--until she is judged to be starting to die. Many will be miscarriages, but there's also eclampsia among other dreadful complications of pregnancy. Insurance companies in forced-birth states won't cover the emergency care, and doctors are afraid that if a non-medic decides they acted a day too early they will be prosecuted. I'd bring these up. Oh, and ask why they're not advocating full free pre-natal care, if they love the unborn so much. And then ask why they won't protect 5 year olds from gun violence. There are already plenty of stories of wanted pregnancies which go wrong but the woman is denied essential healthcare--a risky early delivery or an abortion--until she is judged to be starting to die. Many will be miscarriages, but there's also eclampsia among other dreadful complications of pregnancy. Insurance companies in forced-birth states won't cover the emergency care, and doctors are afraid that if a non-medic decides they acted a day too early they will be prosecuted.

I'd bring these up. Oh, and ask why they're not advocating full free pre-natal care, if they love the unborn so much.

And then ask why they won't protect 5 year olds from gun violence.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203327 Elizabeth Miller Fri, 23 Jun 2023 04:34:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203327 I thought I was being pretty emotional about it. In any event, your tack and mine can work together! I thought I was being pretty emotional about it. In any event, your tack and mine can work together!

]]> By: andygaus http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203326 andygaus Fri, 23 Jun 2023 04:12:18 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203326 IF this was an exercise in pure logic, you would be right. But people vote with their emotions. I'm suggesting the right way to get an emotional response that will impel people to vote. The most exact logic is not always what will have the desired effect. IF this was an exercise in pure logic, you would be right. But people vote with their emotions. I'm suggesting the right way to get an emotional response that will impel people to vote. The most exact logic is not always what will have the desired effect.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203325 Elizabeth Miller Fri, 23 Jun 2023 00:20:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203325 andygaus, I think we may have had this conversation before but I still believe that narrowing the debate by focusing on the extreme consequences of the most draconian abortion bans and restrictions can tend to cloud the issue and make it murkier than it needs to be. This is such basic stuff - a woman - any and ALL women, in fact - being in control of their own bodies insofar as making safe, legal and medically advised decisions about whether to bring a pregnancy to term. But, this is war! Ahem. So, any and all methods of combat should be used to prevail ... andygaus,

I think we may have had this conversation before but I still believe that narrowing the debate by focusing on the extreme consequences of the most draconian abortion bans and restrictions can tend to cloud the issue and make it murkier than it needs to be.

This is such basic stuff - a woman - any and ALL women, in fact - being in control of their own bodies insofar as making safe, legal and medically advised decisions about whether to bring a pregnancy to term.

But, this is war! Ahem. So, any and all methods of combat should be used to prevail ...

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203324 Elizabeth Miller Fri, 23 Jun 2023 00:08:41 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203324 <i>Women (and the men who support them) don't like to see their freedoms taken away. They don't like moralizing politicians making the most intimate decisions for them. They want such decisions to be made between themselves and their doctors, period.</i> Hear! Hear! That right there is the bottom line and what I'd love to hear all Democrats repeating ... along with things like 'so-called pro-Life Americans are essentially anti-Woman, anti-human sexuality and, well, anti-sexual pleasure and well-being not to mention anti-democracy and pro-theocracy in the manner of such autocratic states and entities as Iran, ISIS and al-Qaeda for crissakes and as such should have no standing on this matter in the United States of America! Period!' There, I feel a lot better now that I got that off my chest. Heh. Very nice column! Women (and the men who support them) don't like to see their freedoms taken away. They don't like moralizing politicians making the most intimate decisions for them. They want such decisions to be made between themselves and their doctors, period.

Hear! Hear!

That right there is the bottom line and what I'd love to hear all Democrats repeating ... along with things like 'so-called pro-Life Americans are essentially anti-Woman, anti-human sexuality and, well, anti-sexual pleasure and well-being not to mention anti-democracy and pro-theocracy in the manner of such autocratic states and entities as Iran, ISIS and al-Qaeda for crissakes and as such should have no standing on this matter in the United States of America! Period!'

There, I feel a lot better now that I got that off my chest. Heh.

Very nice column!

]]> By: andygaus http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/06/22/one-year-after-roe-was-overturned/#comment-203323 andygaus Thu, 22 Jun 2023 23:31:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=23721#comment-203323 Here's how the Democrats might phrase it:Imagine a ten-year-old girl is raped by her stepfather. She's a little reluctant to say, "Mommy, Daddy raped me," so she just hopes for the best. And after six weeks she is still hoping for the best. Then she realizes she's pregnant. In her state there's an exception for rape or incest, but only if the rape or incest has been reported to the police. Her stepfather is a large, strong man with anger issues, and she's still living with him, so she might be reluctant to go to the police, especially since they might not believe a 10-year-old girl if the stepfather strongly denies it. If there was an exception for the health of the mother, it would be obvious that carrying the pregnancy to term could kill her or, if not, cause gruesome injuries. But the exception is only for the life of the mother, so the doctors must wait and watch her deteriorate till she's at death's door and then make a last-ditch effort to keep her from going through death's door. And if she suffers gruesome injuries but doesn't die, well that's just what's supposed to happen, in order to be truly pro-life. Now, [name of Republican candidate], is that what you support? Here's how the Democrats might phrase it:Imagine a ten-year-old girl is raped by her stepfather. She's a little reluctant to say, "Mommy, Daddy raped me," so she just hopes for the best. And after six weeks she is still hoping for the best. Then she realizes she's pregnant. In her state there's an exception for rape or incest, but only if the rape or incest has been reported to the police. Her stepfather is a large, strong man with anger issues, and she's still living with him, so she might be reluctant to go to the police, especially since they might not believe a 10-year-old girl if the stepfather strongly denies it. If there was an exception for the health of the mother, it would be obvious that carrying the pregnancy to term could kill her or, if not, cause gruesome injuries. But the exception is only for the life of the mother, so the doctors must wait and watch her deteriorate till she's at death's door and then make a last-ditch effort to keep her from going through death's door. And if she suffers gruesome injuries but doesn't die, well that's just what's supposed to happen, in order to be truly pro-life. Now, [name of Republican candidate], is that what you support?

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