yes, i did include those words for a reason.

I figured you did.

i'm doubtful that anyone in the republican debates could respond any better, however.

"In this setting," wind them all up and watch them go, and Chris-Chris the Clown would definitely be among at least one of the top three performers... except with his own political party. :)

yes, i did include those words for a reason. i'm doubtful that anyone in the republican debates could respond any better, however. and yes, of COURSE he's lying and/or misleading on any number of things, but townhalls and debates aren't about how well you do factually, they're about how well you "perform."

Elizabeth, on reproductive rights Christie deferred to “let each state decide…until & unless our nation reaches consensus.”

So until hell freezes over, your state government should mandate your personal reproductive decisions. If that's okay with any males on this forum, I hope your state mandates penile amputation because it would sure curtail the abortion rate. Just saying.

Not on the topic of reproductive rights.

Exactly!

This hot bag of wind thinks it's not the place of the United States to interfere. Interference into your personal pursuit of life, libery, and happiness should obviously take place at the state level. Positively nuts!

did you watch the CNN townhall tonight?

Yes.

my former governor is someone i never supported or voted for, but in this setting he was pretty strong.

The words "in this setting" are doing a lot of work there. He obviously wasn't challenged on his lies. A decade after "Bridgegate," and he's still lying about having no prior knowledge, which is absolute bullshit. Also, his revisionist history regarding the Trump campaign's contacts with Russians is laughable on its face.

Why wasn't his ridiculous stance on abortion not questioned further? Rhetorical question. He mentions not wanting the federal government being involved in the decision and asks (paraphrasing): Do you want the United States deciding you can only have two kids... like China? Obvious answer is "no."

Obvious followup question: What on God's green Earth makes you think that's a better proposition if it's New Jersey or another state telling me I can only have two children or (in the alternative) I must have two children? Another obvious question: What's so damn great about New Jersey or another state mandating forced birth of my rapist's baby? I don't think rapists should be given rights by either the United States or any state.

Chris Christie did not have the authority to fire Camden PD. It was Democratic lawmakers that did that. Liar!

:)

How many of those 4 criteria apply to Fat Donny? I'd say all 4.

Four.

The right-wing talking points regarding Hillary's emails and actual facts are two entirely different things, and for the reasons you rightly point out, Comey chose not to prosecute. Additionally, there were multiple AGs of the Trump administration who reviewed the case and also chose not to prosecute. As much as Republicans want to make this an issue now, it's nothing more than false equivalency and denotes the absolute dearth of defenses available for Trump in a court of law.

So many shitty Trumpian defenses.

Shitty Defenses in a Court of Law

* "If they can do this to me; they can do it to you." Accurate but a much better translation is: "No one is above the law." If you steal nuclear secrets, you bet your ass they can do it to you. Except there really is a 2-tier system of justice. If you did steal nuclear secrets, you probably wouldn't get 18 days -- forget about 18 months -- wherein you could return them and "no harm, no foul." After they searched and recovered nuclear secrets from your residence and every property you owned (not just one), your ass would be jailed until your trial and not allowed to be released "OR" -- on your own recognizance.

* If you stole nuclear secrets and refused to return them for 18 months, and your defense is "but Hillary," "but Joe Biden," or "but Mike Pence," it is like telling the entire world you have no defense and are up Shit Creek without a paddle.

* If you stole nuclear secrets and your defense is to whine about the sitting president having his political opponent indicted, that is also a shitty defense... particularly and especially when you were recently a sitting president who demanded his AG indict his political opponent. Are there no Republicans who remember the fact that Donald Trump demanded his AG arrest Joe Biden (and not for the first time)?

Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election

It's also an equally stupid defense when you keep claiming your opponent is helping you by having you indicted. I mean, pick a lane. You saying it helps you and then whining it hurts you is schizophrenic as well as quantifiably stupid.

* If you stole nuclear secrets and are claiming "I would have returned them if I only had time" after months and months of shit-tons of time, you're not a victim but an effing comedian.

* If you stole nuclear secrets and your defense is some bullshit story about declassifying the nuclear secrets beforehand by just thinking about it, it's not only asinine on its face, it's also side-splitting comedy. There is no "Jedi mind trick" method of declassification, and no amount of ridiculous claims by Trump that he declassified the nuclear secrets changes the fact he had unlawful possession of them and refused to return them. And say one of the last things you did just hours before leaving the office of the presidency was to actually declassify documents related to "Operation Crossfire Hurricane" ... how stupid do you think it would sound to claim that "Jedi mind trick declassification method" (not a method) when you obviously knew the proper procedure? Rhetorical question.

In conclusion, if Donald Trump wants to grab some lady parts, he should honestly and seriously consider manhandling himself all over because he is without question the biggest pussy on the planet.

I have said it before, and I'll say it again: It is Trump's own mouth that indicts himself. He has the right to remain silent; he just doesn't have the ability. :)

*sigh*

Elizabeth I truly “get” The Thou Shall Get NO More Nookie for Thou art a facist troglodyte, yea verily” impulse. I fully agree that they bleeping deserve it, BUT that’s such a tall order! Seems you hetero [redacteds] love being [redacted] as much as us [it is better to GIVE than to, er, RECEIVE] [redacteders] gentlemen. In fact, even the non-Gentlemen.

Christie was SLY on abortion, and I’ve no doubt he’d sign a Federal ban if it landed in front of him.

Five minutes & worth a peek.

Christie hit it out of the park. Period. For that reason I fear Christie versus Joe above every other Repug candidate on offer. CC only hit Repug orthodoxy about 20% of the time, otherwise he was appealing to swing voters.

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."

How many of those 4 criteria apply to Fat Donny? I'd say all 4.

Let's please leave the "look over there" bullshit to the MAGAts, OK? Hilary, Joe, and Pence did nothing close to what he did. Lock him up!