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		<title>By: ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Friday Talking Points -- Biden Launches His Re-Election Campaign</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Friday Talking Points -- Biden Launches His Re-Election Campaign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2023 01:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202746</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 22:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, I still blame Biden for most of that.</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202745</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 22:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I meant that US and Ukrainian interests do not fully align. Sorry for being imprecise. Still wishing there was an edit function around here. :)

As for the cost of Russia&#039;s war in Ukraine for all involved...I believe it won&#039;t have been worth it. Not because it was difficult but because it was so unnecessary and because the end game won&#039;t, in all likelihood, look much different from the status quo ante.

And, the US is not giving Ukraine enough support to win, so ...I think what Ukraine calls a win, in public, is not reality-based. In other words, they will not, under any scenario I can imagine, regain all of their territory and may even end up with less than they had when this war began more than a year ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I meant that US and Ukrainian interests do not fully align. Sorry for being imprecise. Still wishing there was an edit function around here. :)</p>
<p>As for the cost of Russia's war in Ukraine for all involved...I believe it won't have been worth it. Not because it was difficult but because it was so unnecessary and because the end game won't, in all likelihood, look much different from the status quo ante.</p>
<p>And, the US is not giving Ukraine enough support to win, so ...I think what Ukraine calls a win, in public, is not reality-based. In other words, they will not, under any scenario I can imagine, regain all of their territory and may even end up with less than they had when this war began more than a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 18:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@liz,

that&#039;s an absolute statement, and it&#039;s false. US interests align partially with Ukraine, partially not. any hot military conflict brings a host of challenges, especially one where we&#039;re attempting not to involve our own troops. but the fact that it&#039;s difficult doesn&#039;t necessarily mean it&#039;s not worth the cost. like president biden, i believe that our support of ukraine is absolutely worth the cost, and i believe most US voters would agree with me on that point. just because i disagree with you doesn&#039;t mean i don&#039;t understand you.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@liz,</p>
<p>that's an absolute statement, and it's false. US interests align partially with Ukraine, partially not. any hot military conflict brings a host of challenges, especially one where we're attempting not to involve our own troops. but the fact that it's difficult doesn't necessarily mean it's not worth the cost. like president biden, i believe that our support of ukraine is absolutely worth the cost, and i believe most US voters would agree with me on that point. just because i disagree with you doesn't mean i don't understand you.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202743</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US interests do NOT align with Ukraine&#039;s. You are not seeing the challenges this war presents to the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US interests do NOT align with Ukraine's. You are not seeing the challenges this war presents to the US.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202742</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything, the continuation of the Ukraine conflict actually helps the president&#039;s reelection chances. Especially if trump is the opponent, it provides a clear contrast - one candidate trying to protect Ukraine and our interests there, the other trying to exploit Ukraine for personal gain and his buddy Putin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything, the continuation of the Ukraine conflict actually helps the president's reelection chances. Especially if trump is the opponent, it provides a clear contrast - one candidate trying to protect Ukraine and our interests there, the other trying to exploit Ukraine for personal gain and his buddy Putin.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202741</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, speaking of Hellscapes and such ... heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, speaking of Hellscapes and such ... heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202740</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202739</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s talk about complete and total disillusionment, shall we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's talk about complete and total disillusionment, shall we?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202738</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has done a pretty good job in Sudan, as well. NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has done a pretty good job in Sudan, as well. NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202737</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, it would probably say so - just as soon as it brings Ukraine safely into the fold of NATO. Because, well, there just isn&#039;t enough war about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, it would probably say so - just as soon as it brings Ukraine safely into the fold of NATO. Because, well, there just isn't enough war about.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202736</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would the US go nuclear to defend Taiwan, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would the US go nuclear to defend Taiwan, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202735</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the renewed US commitment to use its nuclear arsenal to defend South Korea will spark more interest... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the renewed US commitment to use its nuclear arsenal to defend South Korea will spark more interest... ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202734</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that was a fountain of conversation. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that was a fountain of conversation. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202733</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua, do you think the war in Ukraine can go on indefinitely without any impact on Biden&#039;s chances for re-election?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, do you think the war in Ukraine can go on indefinitely without any impact on Biden's chances for re-election?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202732</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not because of Ukraine, per se, but definitely because of the serious problems caused by the war in Ukraine ... problems that are already causing serious challenges for Biden, internationally AND domestically and which will only get worse if an end to the madness there cannot be found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not because of Ukraine, per se, but definitely because of the serious problems caused by the war in Ukraine ... problems that are already causing serious challenges for Biden, internationally AND domestically and which will only get worse if an end to the madness there cannot be found.</p>
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		<title>By: andygaus</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202731</link>
		<dc:creator>andygaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden skating to the nomination is not 100% certain. He&#039;s old enough that obvious health and general frailty problems could knock him out. Same for Trump, even if his legal problems don&#039;t block his path to the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden skating to the nomination is not 100% certain. He's old enough that obvious health and general frailty problems could knock him out. Same for Trump, even if his legal problems don't block his path to the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202730</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@liz,

do you seriously think any substantial portion of the population will vote against joe biden becase of ukraine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@liz,</p>
<p>do you seriously think any substantial portion of the population will vote against joe biden becase of ukraine?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202729</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 01:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Biden and his foreign policy team can forge a way toward peace in Ukraine over the next 6 to 18 months, I would feel a lot better about his chances for re-election. Because that war, if it continues on like it has, is going to exacerbate some very serious and wide-ranging problems for him come November 2024 that are already confounding his presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Biden and his foreign policy team can forge a way toward peace in Ukraine over the next 6 to 18 months, I would feel a lot better about his chances for re-election. Because that war, if it continues on like it has, is going to exacerbate some very serious and wide-ranging problems for him come November 2024 that are already confounding his presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202728</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 00:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;No doubt this was done to squelch any speculation right from the start that Biden might drop Harris to put someone else on the ticket with him.&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed. But, I&#039;ll be very surprised if she ever wins election to the office of POTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>No doubt this was done to squelch any speculation right from the start that Biden might drop Harris to put someone else on the ticket with him.</i></p>
<p>Indeed. But, I'll be very surprised if she ever wins election to the office of POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2023/04/25/freedom-versus-apocalyptic-hellscape/#comment-202727</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 00:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Biden strongly projects his core belief in the basic decency of Americans. Again, this was a big campaign theme for him previously, so it is not surprising to see him return to it.&lt;/i&gt;

This is a vintage Biden characteristic - his inherent belief in the American people and how, when they are faced with difficult decisions, they most often rise to the challenge. It&#039;s never a good bet to bet against America and &lt;i&gt;AmeriCANS&lt;/i&gt;, to use a term coined by former CNN host Chris Cuomo. Ahem. Credit where credit is due and all that, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Biden strongly projects his core belief in the basic decency of Americans. Again, this was a big campaign theme for him previously, so it is not surprising to see him return to it.</i></p>
<p>This is a vintage Biden characteristic - his inherent belief in the American people and how, when they are faced with difficult decisions, they most often rise to the challenge. It's never a good bet to bet against America and <i>AmeriCANS</i>, to use a term coined by former CNN host Chris Cuomo. Ahem. Credit where credit is due and all that, I guess.</p>
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