You finally used the call word!

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can you pin this link somewhere for future reference?

You know it! The call word is "panda." You use it, and that link will appear when I see it.

I like #5. That plane going down in flames is a nice touch... the color of Hair Dick Tater's head. <--- Oops, almost did a #6. ;)

Why does Hitler have to be mentioned so often in our discussions here, anyways??

Probably because the former president and his friends are fans of swastikas, fascism and right-wing authoritarianism.

Why does Putin have to be mentioned so often in our discussions here, anyways?? ;)

We weren't discussing leadership. We were discussing well intentions.

People are saying the road to hell is paved with them. :)

If Iraqis (or anyone else for that matter) seriously can't tell the difference between the leadership of Adolf Hitler and George W Bush, we've got bigger problems than poor leadership.

You missed John's point entirely, and I'm not used to seeing that from you. Maybe this will help:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

That kind of hyperbole reflects a serious lack of perspective...

Maybe on your part.

... which I'm certain Vladimir Putin and his ilk will be all too happy to exploit.

Well, unfortunately for Vlad, he ain't exactly dealing with the Bush administration. :)

Results do matter, but intentions matter too.

Exactly.

My bet is that Iraqis don't see a lot of difference between Hitler's bad intentions and W's "good" ones. Neither do I.

Very well said. I agree.

At the time, I could see that his advisors were bloodthirsty warmongers. It's why they were chosen. He wanted the advice he got.

Exactly!

It was a recurring pattern within the Bush administration, who weren't interested in the IC connecting the available dots; they invented the dots and then sought their connection, and con artist code name "Curveball" fit their predesigned plan and predetermined narrative. Far from being duped into war by the CI, he provided exactly what they sought.

Ye did say that Hitler stuff just the other day (with a black spandex hood on his head). That was just after dining with the alleged Proven Loser Nazi and some other Hitler fan. Hitler is on topic today.

Which makes Biden's adamant refusal to put Ukraine's membership in the Western security alliance ON the negotiating table before this war began all the more perplexing.

And, Ukrainians all too happy to ignore.

The truth, as per usual, lies somewhere in between.

There is one note of caution, however, for Democrats now celebrating yet another Trump loss with unrestrained glee.

If I was a Democrat, I'd probably be explaining how a little bit of "unrestrained glee" was in order because of a lot of hard work. Then I'd raise my glass and do my "elections toast," which is always exactly the same sentiment whether a win or a loss:

Another election and on to the next one.

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This election was close.

People are saying that the former president was reduced to holding another conference call to support Mr. Walker that was closed to the news media:

So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 96,614 votes...

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People are saying. :)

Very fair analysis.

Besides, Bush looked a gift horse in the mouth when he sabotaged Biden's 2007 plan for US policy in Iraq which garnered 78 votes in the US senate that year. I think the Iraqi's might have gone for it if they and their advisors hadn't been convinced by the Bush administration that the plan wasn't a plan to keep Iraq united but rather a plan to carve Iraq up. Partition was the Bush line for it from the get-go and was as far from the truth of the matter as one could possibly get.

Yes, Bush got the advice he wanted and/or needed to satisfy his faulty inclinations and ill-perceived goals, to say nothing of his intentions.

If I were an American voter, I'd demand better candidates for president and for people who occupy the WH. Well, I did, anyways. And, it worked! Heh.

My bet is that Iraqis don't see a lot of difference between Hitler's bad intentions and W's "good" ones. Neither do I. At the time, I could see that his advisors were bloodthirsty warmongers. It's why they were chosen. He wanted the advice he got.

But seriously, being a bad president isn't the same thing as being a bad person. Dubya isn't so bright, so he made some poor choices and took some lousy advice. Results do matter, but intentions matter too.

Well, I see good things about Hitler also . . . Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler. - The Artist formerly known as Kanye Kardashian

Agreed. I believe that the orange one is genuinely mentally ill. King George W has no such excuse. There was nothing well intentioned about his re-election strategy of Gay Marriage = Doomsday. It was every bit as sinister as QAnon.

Sure, Dubya was a decent person and well intentioned. If you forget about the screwing up our Afghan war to invade Iraq “because we wanted to kick someone’s ass [right after 9-11]” was the reason that leaked out well after the fact. I don’t think the resulting 100,000 Coalition casualties and the 1,000,000 Iraqi casualties would characterize him quite that way. Just saying.

I cannot go there. But I shouldn’t have to even entertain the prospect.

Watching them implode over the next 24 months is going to be such great fun — must remember to stock up on popcorn.

Isn't she helpful? It seems like that video will show up in some attack ads.

* He's been caught red-handed with super top secret documents and he's not in a dungeon.
* He's still raking millions of dollars from the rubes.
* We The People are paying this low-life criminal a pension!
* We The People pay exorbitant rates for Secret Service agents to stay at his residence to protect him.

I could go on. He's not losing. The GQP is. I'm way past ready for his losing streak to start.