I’m not sure if you realize that Michael was not the person who wrote the statements you were quoting, but it actually came from me. I just noticed it and if your post was directed to me, I did not want you to think I had just ignored you. I really appreciate your thoughts on the matter and your willingness to consider what I am saying about the liberal media’s reporting on police conduct in this country.

I appreciate you making this essential distinction between what LEO'S face and this one particular incident where Offcr. Chauvin exhibited bad judgement.

This buoys my hope that you may NOT necessarily "blindly LEO" but are attempting to put my/our feet into a LEO'S shoes.

One of the things that I have learned over the years is that propaganda, regardless of whether it is being promoted by the Left or the Right, is almost always structured the same way. If you watch how FoxNews reports on illegal immigration and compare it to how MSNBC reports on officer involved shootings; it is shocking at how similar they are! Articles filled with fear-mongering and depicting the villains as dangerous killers looking for their chance to commit acts of violence. The constant repeating of overly sweeping generalizations about every member of the hated group being included in the articles is a good sign of bad journalism.

The police are us. Yet with no other profession do we judge every member by the actions of a single person. One bad teacher and we don’t change how teaching in done. One bad doctor and we don’t distrust all medical professionals. But one officer pulls the trigger and all police are judged.

As such, good deal! That's what i hope you will help me with.

BTW kudo for less boldified right-wing quotes. I believe I read all of the above "spew" word for word. That doesn't mean I agree with any of all of it but it does mean I'm much more likely to read it.

I haven’t looked at the Grand Rapids case, but I am happy to do so and give my opinion or answer any questions that you have. I do not agree with Michale’s assessment that Floyd was scum whose death society is better off as a result. Nor do I think that any of the officers charged with his death had any intention to cause him harm. It’s important to remember that all involved were human beings…not one dimensional characters.

Get pie.

So, in other words, you have NOTHING to back up ANY of your claims..

Which has been the story of your life since you came to Weigantia.. :^/

Ted Cruz is already having fantasies...

I guess he is trying to one up Tucker Carlson's M&M fetish.

And still you do anything, SAY anything to avoid posting your proof..

Yer only embarrassing yerself further, son.. :^/

Florida Senate passes bill stripping Disney of special self-governing power

The bill now moves to the Florida House
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-stripping-disney-of-special-self-governing-power-passes-florida-senate

BUTT OUT of politics..

The overwhelming majority of Floridians, INCLUDING DEMOCRATS support the FL Anti-Grooming law...

Where is your response to that?

I see you can't put an end to your unnecessary, gratuitous name calling and foul language, so ...

So... STILL no facts to support yer claim..

Got it..

More Democrats sound the alarm as White House plans to scrap Title 42

A growing number of Democrats are breaking with Biden on Title 42 support as migrants continue to cross into US
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-sound-alarm-white-house-plans-scrap-title-42

Amazing...

Biden's handlers actually did something smart!!

Amazing...

Uh...three sentences up from what you quoted, minus the italics sections, of course...

According to YOU, proof was provided..

You have no facts to support that claim..

How many comments have you stated that proof was provided..

IF that is accurate, wouldn't it be so much easier to just provide the proof??

Why are you dancing so??

Simply provide the proof of your specific questions..

Which simply means that the Chinese are just as dumb and power-mad as the Democrats..

No, put blame where it belongs, not just on the democrats. Everyone plays a part is this play, democrats included...

Yea?? How is any of the this the GOP's fault?? Democrats have a total lock on government..

Democrats are in charge...

I get why you want to pass the buck, but the buck stops with Biden.. He's said so on MANY occasions..

It's probably the ONLY thing he has gotten right in his whole disastrous rule as POTUS..

Not if you want to succeed in the public sphere...

I guess you have accepted you will never get further there. So, carry on...

Of course it was. Chinese chip shortage, shipping container mismanagement. Plus all the government spending is certainly having an effect, but that's a 50/50 as both administrations had large spending bills to deal with the pandemic. Much like 2008, where Bush started the chain of bills and bail outs and Obama continued on.

COVID hasn't been an issue since 2020.. Democrats' mismanagement and fear mongering made it worse..

Tell that to the Chinese who have cities accounting for about 50% of China's total economic output currently have some sort of lockdown measure in place.

Put the blame on anyone but Democrats, eh? It's not going to work..

No, put blame where it belongs, not just on the democrats. Everyone plays a part is this play, democrats included...

In that case...

Step. Away.

From the newly discovered meth.;D

Oh sure, it's exacerbating the problem.. No doubt about it.

But it was Biden and the Democrats who CREATED the problem that Putin's war is exacerbating..

And, you and I are in agreement that it was within Biden's/Democrat's power to stop the war or end it before inflation got this bad..

So, no matter HOW you want to slice it, Biden and the Democrats OWN this problem.

It's very easy to prove I am full of shit..

Simply re-provide the proof you allegedly provided..

The fact that you are getting hysterical INSTEAD of redundantly providing proof indicates you have NOT provided the proof..

AKA, heaped with praise...

When assholes act like children and troll, lie and dodge despite every effort to give them the opportunity to act reasonable then I treat them as they deserve to be treated.

All other times...

Read your own posts sometime. You act like a Tourettes sufferer who just discovered meth...

Step. Away.

From the bottle.

Inflation was a problem before Putin started building up forces for the Ukraine war.. Nice try.

So, you don't think this ridiculous war in Ukraine is adding more inflationary rippling impacts throughout the world, in addition to all that was contributing to inflation before the war?

And yet, you cannot PROVIDE that specific proof.. Why is that???

It's not my job to search a lengthy comment for your "proof", if it even exists..

QUOTE your proof.. Or STFU..

Inflation was a problem before Putin started building up forces for the Ukraine war.. Nice try.

COVID hasn't been an issue since 2020.. Democrats' mismanagement and fear mongering made it worse..

Put the blame on anyone but Democrats, eh? It's not going to work..

Biden and the Democrats OWN this crappy economy.. As will be evidenced by the coming Democrat massacre in November..

You're reminding me of into the great wide open. Love that song

But has nothing to do with war, COVID and the chinese lock downs making chip shortages, Shipping companies leaving their containers in less than useful places because it was cheaper. If it's all Democrats fault then why is the rest of the world also having similar levels of inflation?

It's like you run on a variation of chaos theory: if a butterfly flaps it's wings somewhere on earth, it must be Joe Biden's fault...

Democrat mismanagement, political mismanagement of COVID and throwing away America's energy independence..

Take your pick..

The economic mess we are in today is one of Democrats' making..

Ya'all can't blame this one on President Trump..

It's ALL Biden and the Democrats..

Here is yet another example proving how important it is to be able to discern one situation from another.

Please post them in the above manner so they're easier to reference should anyone come back to reread it.

"One is honored to be of service."
-Robin Williams, BICENTENNIAL MAN

:D

Yeah, well, it's the old Republican cult of economic failure, again.

And yet, it's been Democrats who are governing over the biggest rise in inflation since the LAST time Democrats presided over gross inflation, eh?

Seems like the facts prove it's DEMOCRATS who are economic failures... :D

Again you repeat the lie that I did not provide specifics.

It's only a lie if you can PROVE it's a lie..

To date, you have been unable to provide such proof so it stands as factual..

That Liberal Patriot link was a good (if disheartening) read. And hence an aid to my understanding.

Please post them in the above manner so they're easier to reference should anyone come back to reread it.

Again professor, glass houses.

WSJ articles hide behind a paywall and are useless.

We wouldn't want anyone audience that you don't actually read the links you post, right?

Does that mean I have to switch [31] to convey my hearty cheer?

I'm so confused! (Cue Don...)

The organization has squandered its moral authority by acting like a hustler on the make.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/blm-antipolice-racket-black-lives-matter-mansion-purchase-donations-corruption-police-brutality-shooting-floyd-systemic-racism-antiracist-equity-racial-justice-11650404503?st=6xoq8alzwsylpd7&reflink=desktopwebshare_permal

Same could be said for The Democrat Party...

Comments that you cannot provide any specifics on.. Specific quotes etc etc that supports your claims..

Come on Weigantia, give Michale a hearty cheer. He has won!

I accept your concession.. :D

It’s Certainly Looking Like It Should Be
https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/will-the-2022-election-be-a-teachable?s=r

The problem is, Democrats keep drawing the WRONG message from all their losses..

Democrats believe that they are just not articulating their policies properly..

When the FACTS clearly show that it's Democrat POLICIES that Americans don't like.

DEFUND THE POLICE

DE-FACTO OPEN BORDERS

INDOCTRINATION INSTEAD OF EDUCATION

PARENTS HAVE NO SAY IN EDUCATION

And so on and so on and so on..

It's not that Americans are getting the message..

Americans ARE getting the message..

Americans simply don't like what the message says..

It's really THAT simple..

Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk, who's been gearing to take Twitter private, slammed Netflix as it lost subscribers for first time in over a decade
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/elon-musk-netflix-woke-mind-virus-unwatchable

WOOT!!!!

Elon is Anti-Woke!!

Woo Hoo!!! :D

Nope.. The honest facts..

If you can't ask specific questions, you won't get specific answers..

BLM silent when confronted with data showing massive 2020 spike in Black murder victims

Black murders spiked by 32% in 2020 compared to 2019, and by 43% that year compared to the 10-year average.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-lives-matter-silent-2020-black-murder-spike-experts-blm-defund-contributed

BLM is THE worst thing that has happened to black Americans and the Democrat Party since slavery..

There is only ONE reason why the officers were charged..

Because Floyd was black..

Period. End Trans.

The specifics you give are equal to the specifics you get

Tamir Rice was a 12yr old kid...

I think this again simply shows a generational disparity between you and I..

In your world, 12 year olds can be thugs and dangerous criminals.. Just as, in your world, 4 5 and 6 yr olds should be learning that yes, they can choose their gender if their current gender bores them..

In my world, kids are innocent until about 16/17 and kindergartners should be playing with wooden blocks, not DNA blocks..

This is not a knock against you.. It's a knock against the society that the Democrat Party has created in the here and now..

It's nice to see the anti-BLM and pro-LEO passion in you..

I wish we could see it more often.. :D

I know today is that special day in April. So please be a mensch and convey my Sieg Heil! to all your buddies "on the right," so to speak.

I miss you Kick.

Sure, I have my moments but you're simply better at this than am I.

If everyone else is allowed to continue to agitate for the purpose of causing trouble and trying to make it unpleasant for me to comment here as they please then I can make it unpleasant for the rest of you how I please.

And if you believe that your OD crusade has had the slightest effect on solving our big money in politics problem then I have no bridge to sell you that could replace the bridge you've already undeniably bought.

You have not moved the needle one iota. But it's everybody else's fault, of course.*smh*

LIKE THIS, on a completely unrelated topic, Michale (there will be a pop quiz!) What it's like to be black in America… Beau (8:55)

*Elizabeth, I am here to educate. Both YOU but more importantly, ME. That's why I'm still prepping my reply to Lizsplaining Ukraine (the more I research the more my view shifts in light of new info, imagine that.) That's also why I'm pursuing detente with Michale -- I've been looking for a cogent Conservative to make me a better Liberal by exploding Libtard bullshit if and when it occurs. I'm also developing our dialogue on the recent law enforcement news out of Grand Rapids.

Yeah, I wonder what the heck is wrong with him. Here I am, sincerely addressing him point by point, and I'm not really feeling that he's doing anything to reply in kind. I don't understand -- it's like his brain just goes.

Hmmm. I'd start with being aware of the significant differences between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.

Yup, I agreed with Ralph back in the day, hello?

BUT you've never acknowledged that just because both parties are owned by big money doesn't mean that working with the one side that has at least SOME talent (Kucinich, Feingold, Bernie and Elizabeth -- NOT fucking Clinton(s) and Obama!) and sentiment to form a more perfect [free of big money] union versus the other side doesn't make a difference. Because it does. At least some Dem Presidential candidates refused PAC money/dark money contributions and emphasized (and were rewarded by) small money donors.)

Don, we go to war with the army [political system] that we have. To toss every last baby out with the bathwater because they're incapable of doing better under the circumstances simply hurts your credibility.

Noone has ever accepted chaos over even the worst present circumstances!

So, an imaginary concept that doesn't exist is better than [fill in the blank]?

Well, I'll see your imaginary world and raise you to my imaginary John Lennon Unicorn Give Peace a Chance.

Huh! Has the same imaginary impact on reality.

Nothing can make a difference until it is tried. OKAY, besides stupid shit like buying Nikes and black Sweats and killing ourselves because the Mothership just might be waiting to pick us up? I mean, we won't know unless we try, right?

C'mon, you make killer political jokes so we know you have the brains. You can offer better logic than this.

Doc Holiday
TOMBSTONE

Of course One Demand has not had any effect on big money in politics. I never claimed it has. WHICH begs the question, isn't that what your goal is? Aren't you trying to spread the word that One Demand can/could/will address this problem? I was NOT doing anything but asking, "don't you want OD to fix this problem?" As you obviously want to accomplish just that (right?) my observation that you've not moved the needle in that better direction is meant to say, Hey! This is important enough that you should change your game plan to something (anything!) that works better than what you've done to date.

Let's try it out...

And if you believe that your OD crusade has had the slightest effect on solving our big money in politics problem then I have no bridge to sell you that could replace the bridge you've already undeniably bought.

There! Covers the main points while not dipping into the endless particulars. Ahem.

Y'all are-- er, All y'all are welcome!

Help me, #FloridaMan -- is that good southern?

Fredo wrote,

But if you're still sticking with the Deathocrats I have nice bridge here to sell you....... :D

And if you believe that your OD crusade has had the slightest effect on solving our big money in politics problem then I have no bridge to sell you that could replace the bridge you've already undeniably bought.

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Michale wrote,

Let me be clear — Chauvin did a huge disservice to all police that day with his failure to demonstrate any semblance of compassion or concern for Floyd’s well-being. But we must allow the science and the evidence to dictate whether we have met all the criteria necessary for indicting individuals on criminal charges. It’s easy to hate Chauvin and want him to pay after seeing Floyd’s death occur under Chauvin’s knee.

The DA’s prosecution was done in an apparent attempt to avoid more public outrage and destruction. The people were calling for the head’s of the officers involved, and, sadly, those in charge gave into the politics at the cost of the law.

I appreciate you making this essential distinction between what LEO'S face and this one particular incident where Offcr. Chauvin exhibited bad judgement.

This buoys my hope that you may NOT necessarily "blindly LEO" but are attempting to put my/our feet into a LEO'S shoes.

As such, good deal! That's what i hope you will help me with.

Meanwhile I'm analyzing the Grand Rapids case and will seek your feedback forthwith. I'll do this to continue the dialogue that we both have given to this particular situation, fair enough?

BTW kudo for less boldified right-wing quotes. I believe I read all of the above "spew" word for word. That doesn't mean I agree with any of all of it but it does mean I'm much more likely to read it.