But yer gonna have to make me a nice JPG Certificate Of Authentication I can display here in Weigantia(™michale)... :D

OK, but no fair re-directing it.. :D

are you registered as a 501c3?

Consider it done....

It won't be til the weekend... But I'll be sure and post it when it's done..

Thanx...... This is a PERFECT resolution to this issue...

I will split the payment between JL's chosen charity and Liz's chosen charity....

$50 to each charity...

I like the way this is working out.. :D

Since you commented as well, do you wish to put forth a deserving charity???

Sure you have some Left Wing rags that say different.. But I am going with a source I trust...

So, I will pay $100 to whichever charity is decided...

That is an *EXECELLANT* idea.... Not that it will make any difference with the Weigantian(™michale) riff raff... But then again, nothing makes any difference with the Weigantian riff raff, so same ol same ol...

Thank you for that totally awesome idea...

Since you came up with it, do you have any suggestions for me??

Oh pppuuulllleeeessseeeeee

Ya'all did the same thing ad nauseum during the best years this country has had since St Ronald Reagan...

The President Trump years..

*NOW* you cry foul???

Com'on dood.. Yer better than that...

Agree to disagree.

I know for a FACT that you would not follow thru on such a wager given the circumstances outlined above...

We are looking at the same circumstances here..

But yea, OK... I will agree to disagree...

Moving on.... :D

if i'd lost our wager about biden's nomination, i'd have sucked it up and voted for trump, no matter how awful i think he was for our country. i think you can suck it up and contribute to this website.

Really??

Suppose it was proven beyond ANY doubt, 1000% factual with ironclad facts to PROVE it, that President Trump was *EVERYTHING* that all the Trump/America haters said he was...

Suppose it was proven beyond ANY doubt that President Trump was 10x worse than Charles Manson, Richard Nixon and Adolph Hitler all rolled into one.. That he had actually personally and brutally killed innocent women and children.. That he had actually solicited ALL US secrets to Russia and China..

Are you going to sit there and tell me you would STILL follow thru with the wager and vote for that guy???

HONESTLY??? Com'on, JL.... I was born at night, but it wasn't LAST NIGHT... Yer just spewin' kaa-kaa here.. OF COURSE you wouldn't vote for that guy.... No SANE person would..

I know you well enough to know that you would NOT follow thru with the wager under those conditions..

I know you well enough to know that you have more self-respect and dignity and integrity than to honestly vote for that guy described above.. Wager be damned..

Well, guess what?? I also have more self-respect and dignity and integrity than to give charity to such a disgusting and perverse and gross Anti-America administration..

Heh.. Ironically enough, that describes the WEIGANTIAN(™michale) administration *AND* the Basement Biden administration...

Life imitates art...

It's real simple.. For me, the circumstances between the time the wager was made and now have changed and changed drastically.. This is fact..

You might as well ask me to donate to the Democrat Party created KKK or HAMAS or HEZBOLLAH...

It just AIN'T gonna happen...

Now... Can we move on???

I am serious.. They guy I knew... My friend.. He is gone... Dead and buried..

This new Administration is Charles Manson, Richard Nixon and Adolph Hitler all rolled into one...

I can't make it any simpler than that...

*gasp*

Did someone mention a time-sensitive edit function. Ahem. (use the damn preview thingy!)

My friend, CW, is gone... I miss him, but he is gone..
I simply refuse to fund the gross, perverse and disgusting Anti-America agenda of the current Weigantia(™michale) administration...

Michale, you can't POSSIBLY be serious.

I don't suppose I could interest you in some cheesecake to go with that (Asinine) whine, could I?

Apologies to Joshua.

Michale, you can't POSSIBLY be serious.

I don't suppose I could interest you in some cheesecake to go with that (Asinine) whine, could I?

Apologies to Joshua.

It doesn't matter if you agree with what this new Weigantian(™michale) administration did or not..

It's not important that you defend the indefensible..

What IS the irrefutable fact here is that, for me, the circumstances between the time the wager was made and now has irrevocably changed...

My friend, CW, is gone... I miss him, but he is gone..

I simply refuse to fund the gross, perverse and disgusting Anti-America agenda of the current Weigantia(™michale) administration...

It's that simple.. It's so simple even YOU should be able to understand it..

This being fact, once MC actually grows a pair and fulfil HIS obligations, I stand ready to come to an agreeable conclusion to donate to an actual worthwhile charity....

Until that happens, until MC actually mans up... Here we are and here we will stay...

"It's been a real slice...."
-Meg, HERCULES

The fact that you refuse to address the facts proves beyond an doubt that I am factually accurate and you know I am factually accurate..

I accept your concession...

blaaa blaaa whine cry stamp foot whine blaaa blaaa cry whine blaaa

You have my terms..

If yer not man enough to meet them, then go pound sand...

All that matters is Weigantia knows you made the wagers and now everyone knows that your word ain't worth rat piss.

"All I Have In This World Is My Balls And My Word, And I Don't Break 'Em For No One!"

Tony Montaña
SCARFACE

There is NO negotiating any different outcome besides MAN UP and PAY UP.

Actually, it was someone else who provided the information that began all this.. But that's not relevant..

Does my open-ness justify the crime??

You believe, that... YES it does...

And, as I pointed out and you cannot refute, the *ONLY* reason you feel that way is because you don't like my politics...

Lemme ask you..

Remember the little girl who did Occasional Cortex impressions that were all the rage??

Her and her family started getting death threats and the like...

Did she and her family "deserve" that??

The guy who told Biden on Christmas Eve..."LETS GO BRANDON" He and his family are getting death threats... Does he deserve that??

Jussie Smollet who made a fake claim of hate crime.. He got death threats.. Does he deserve those threats???

Kathy Griffin, who made that gross joke with President Trump's severed head.. She got death threats.. Did she deserve that???

You see how totally untenable your position is from a logic and rational thought point of view??

Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

If you had not self doxed and this information was not known and was posted to somewhere like 4chan, then I might have sympathy. As it is, I think Shakespeare has the best line to describe it:

Much Ado About Nothing...

As I have proven with FACTS, you are not factually accurate..

But, as much as I would like it to be, it's not surprising that you feel this way...

The fact that, initially, you conceded that what was done was wrong is sufficient to prove my point..

Move along now...

But hay... If you want to continue down this path..

How, EXACTLY, is the rape analogy not comparable to the DOX'ing incident that occurred...

Please provide *FACTS* to support your claim...

The *ONLY* difference is the seriousness of the crime...

But the actual action is the same...

Just because someone makes it easy to commit a crime, doesn't mean that the crime is any less criminal..

If I leave my front door unlocked and someone comes in and robs me, that doesn't make the robbery any less of a crime..

If a woman wears "COME FRAK ME" clothes and someone rapes her, that doesn't make the rape any less of a crime...

And if someone leaves my email address in public and someone else uses that to pay services to learn about myself and my family and then uses the threat of DOX'ing to try and silence me, that doesn't make the crime any less serious....

The simple fact that the new guy who took over after the CW that I knew died, didn't say a damn thing to stop it all (which he easily could have done) is the entire point here...

As usual, your's is an *EMOTIONAL* argument.. Not an argument made in logic or facts or rational thought..

I'm still not impressed...

So, you believe that a woman who wear's provocative clothing deserves to be raped??

WOW... That's just sad... Does your friends and family know you believe things like this?? That you believe a woman who dresses provocatively deserves to be raped..

It was not your political beliefs but your general assholiness that got you there in the first place.

Just like it was the woman's whose general provocative-ness got her raped in the first place??? Works both ways, sunshine.. As much as you wish it didn't...

Political bigotry and hate does this to people..

But being a raging asshole did?

In THAT timeframe we are discussing, the First Wegantian(™michale) Renaissance, I was not the "raging asshole" I later became..

Heh.. :D Inadvertently, I am sure, you are making my case for me...

Thank you... Not that I needed the help, but you admitting my point makes things easier.. :D Yer a mensch... :D

It was not your political beliefs but your general assholiness that got you there in the first place. But being an asshole does not trigger sympathy for victimhood quite as well as feigning political suppression, eh?

That's because the CW who died foster'ed a family/friends type environment where people COULD do that..

But being a raging asshole did?

Termination of unvaccinated health care workers backfires as Biden pledges help amid COVID surge
More than 30,000 health care workers are out of jobs in New York alone due to vaccine mandates
https://www.foxnews.com/us/terminated-health-care-workers-joe-biden-vaccine-mandates-national-guard

Basement Biden screws over America.... AGAIN...

That's because the CW who died foster'ed a family/friends type environment where people COULD do that..

At the time of the supposed doxing, your name link went to your business. I mean, come on...is it really doxing if half the information you mention in comments and the other half you provide a link to with every post?

Yes.. Yes it is.... But your political bigotry won't allow you to acknowledge it.. It's OK.. I forgive you..

Just like when a woman who wears a low-cut top and a hiked up skirt is raped.... It's STILL called rape..

Or do you believe any different??

Do you???

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

So, the above woman who gets raped only has herself to blame??

Well, it's nice to have you out of the closet, eh? :eyeroll:

Yes, you are playing the victim.

According to you, so was Sarah Tobias... Pretty sad there, Bashi..

Even for a scum sucking baby killing Democrat... :^/

You were also at the time being a raging asshole. Then shocked pikachu face someone was an asshole back. The comments were deleted, everyone as a group was admonished, discussed it and the squall that hits most forums subsided.

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

Yes, you are playing the victim.

I saw the threads, I'm not impressed...

Of course yer not.. I am just a President Trump/America supporter after all.. What happens to me and mine doesn't bother you in the least... To you, I and my family DESERVE it.. :eyeroll:

But if it were ME doing that to YOU and YOUR family??

I am sure you would feel different...

As I said.. Political hate and bigotry.. :eyeroll:

Still playing the victim, eh?

I saw the threads, I'm not impressed...

And that was SOLELY and COMPLETELY due to NOTHING but political bigotry and hate...

It's that simple...

None of which changes the basic facts as I laid them out..

Nothing I did is even in the same GALAXY as what was done to my family... The DOX'ing and the attempted extortion to myself..

Any changes that occurred in me were initially directed solely at the aggressors...

And the fact that the aggressors and instigators got off scot free with not even a glance of condemnation??? Even Liz stated she was surprised that I was singled out and no one else drew ANY blowback...

That was just insult to injury...

So, with due respect, take your phony non-existent equivalences and shove them..

Man, you have Don Harris levels of a lack of self awareness. You should read some of the threads toward the end, between goading everyone to bet with you (and yes, I'm enjoying the schadenfreude) and the manic posting walls of bold text of entire articles about the exact same crap over and over, I think CW showed heroic restraint in letting it go as long as it did. You are accusing someone of changing without acknowledging or even recognizing quite extreme changes of your own...

Not the CW that I knew.. The CW I knew, the affable and happy CW, the Star Trek fan I knew.. The I-Disagree-With-Your-Opinion-But-I-Will-Defend-Unto-Death-Your-Right-To-Have-It guy... the guy who valued decades+ friendships despite ANY and all political disagreements..

That guy died.. I really miss my old friend...

He was replaced with a bitter and hate-filled Party apparatchik suffering from a very severe and fatal case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.. THAT guy throws a good friend's wife and family under the bus... THAT guy is a PARTY UBER ALLES guy. A guy who doesn't care anything about anything except that his precious progressives are in power and screwing up this country so bad it's unrecognizable... That's the guy who is running Weigantia(™michale) today...

So, yea... Circumstances have changed immensely... CONSIDERABLY.... since the wager was made...

Once you meet my stipulations and man up and respond to your ludicrous and ridiculous points that I totally blew out of the water, then we can discuss an alternate recipient for a charity donation...

By the way, thanx for tee'ing this up for me.. I needed to get this off my chest before my surgery and I couldn't have done it better if I had written it myself.. :D

Thanx dood... Yer a mensch... :D

michale wrote,

Let's say that in between the time that the wager was made and now, the guy who runs Weigantia(™michale) had died and Weigantia was no more...

Of course not.... Because the circumstances had changed between the time the wager was made and today...

Got great news for you -- Chris Weigant is still alive! So the circumstances are the same and the only thing that's changed is that Weigantia knows you made the wagers and now everyone knows that your word ain't worth rat piss.

"All I Have In This World Is My Balls And My Word, And I Don't Break 'Em For No One!"

Tony Montaña
SCARFACE

There is NO negotiating any different outcome besides MAN UP and PAY UP.

Oh noes, those dastardly democrats "stealing" elections through the legal process of democracy. Now there's a real eyeroll...

Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

“There is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level.”
-Basement Biden, Dec 2021

Compare and contrast that to to Basement Biden's campaign message..

"I’m never going to raise the white flag and surrender. We’re going to beat this virus. We’re going to get it under control, I promise you."
Joe Biden, Nov 2020

What a difference a year makes, eh? :epic eyeroll:

NEWS: Biden gives up.
-Peter Dauo, Hillary Clinton Advisor