I apologize if I can't say what I mean a little more diplomatically. :D

I am just a knuckle dragging ground pounder... Diplomacy is not one of my strong suits.. :D

:D

Manchin must be doing SOMETHING right by West Virginians to be continually re-elected..

But, if you want me to SHOW you why you are wrong..

Do West Virginians back Joe Manchin's opposition to Build Back Better?
West Virginians told Fox News they supported Sen. Joe Manchin's opposition to the social spending agenda
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/west-virginians-reaction-joe-manchins-opposition-build-back-better

I mean all of this with the utmost respect.. You KNOW I respect your opinions and positions. Many of them are dead on ballz accurate (industry term) as I mention in the most current commentary..

But in this case with regards to the actions of Joe Manchin, you are not factually accurate..

But when you characterized what Clemons was doing, I took that as denigration... The entire sentence was poorly phrased...

Allow me to rephrase...

"You can obfuscate and belittle Clemons' statements all you want but the fact is, both Sinema and Manchin has been on the receiving end of some pretty heated vitriol.. Both inside and outside of Weigantia(™michale)"

Better?? :D

So all this hype and hysteria over a variant of COVID that MAY, or may not, have killed ANYONE in the US..

MAJOR :eyeroll:

With all the hype and hysteria and fear mongering coming from Basement Biden and Horizontal Harris over the new Omicron variation of COVID...

With all the hysterical threats of MANDATES and such...

With ALL of that coming from the Left....

Do ya'all know how many US deaths have been attributed to COVID...

ONE!!!

Proof positive that the Lefts actions on Omicron are solely, completely and 1000% political...

You and Russ can denigrate Clemons all you want.. Funny that you would choose to do so because he is a Democrat.. Just like ya'all..

But the simple point is ya'all like to think that Democrats are this big ALL-INCLUSIVE Party where everyone is welcome..

But the FACTS (there is that word again) clearly prove beyond ANY doubt that Democrats as a Party are *ONLY* "inclusive" *ONLY* to people who toe their line..

And, unfortunately for the Democrats who ACTUALLY care about this country and have a modicum of integrity (Yes, I concede that there are a few Democrats out there like that.) that "line" that must be toe'ed has moved quite a bit further to the Left..

It's funny in a way.. Democrats in general and QUITE a few Weigantians(™michale) in particular LOVED McCain when he bucked his Party.. "Maverick" was one of the many accolades conferred on John McCain by Democrats and Weigantians(™michale)..

It's funny because the constrast in how Democrats treat their OWN "Maverick" is amazingly 180..

Which, once again, proves fact beyond ANY doubt..

Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature...

The Republican cult of economic failure can be amply demonstrated, over decades, based upon the cold hard facts of the matter.

Allow me to fix that for you..

The Republican cult of economic failure can be amply demonstrated, over decades, based upon the cold hard cherry-picked facts of the matter.

I have listed TONS of facts on how good President Trump and the GOP did for this country.

So we both have facts that "prove" the claim..

But neither of us have listed *ALL* the facts...

I can concede that..

Can you? :D

Steve Clemons may wish to make this about bruised personal feelings but, the BBB plan makes good economic sense for America, including the good people of West Virginia.

The Republican cult of economic failure can be amply demonstrated, over decades, based upon the cold hard facts of the matter.

I would venture even further to include old Democratic economic policy flaws and subscribe to this:

"America’s economy improved more in Joe Biden’s first 12 months than any president during the past 50 years notwithstanding the contrary media narrative contributing to dour public opinion."

And, ah, notwithstanding the global coronavirus pandemic. Ahem.

You can read the full analysis of this assertion here!

” Clemons said it went as far as putting Manchin's family at further risk, pointing to incidents where left-wing activists badgered him about his stance on the bill. ”

Let us not forget all the brave men and women who were mowed down in their prime by that scourge, BADGERING!!!

More proof that Biden has gone to the Progressive/Socialist dark side..

Manchin confidant: Biden White House's incivility was last straw on Build Back Better
Biden personalizing negotiations over massive social policy bill put Manchin's family at risk: Steve Clemons
https://www.foxnews.com/media/manchin-confidant-biden-white-houses-incivility

Kavanaugh asks Biden to respond to flood of vaccine mandate appeals, SCOTUS set to take up high-stakes case
Businesses, trade groups and others seek to halt implementation of controversial mandate
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/supreme-court-vaccine-mandate-kavanaugh-biden-respond

..... the hits just keep on comin'...

Liz, this is what I am talking about..

The Democrats simply refuse to take *NO* for an answer...

And they will pay for their obstinance in approx 11 months time...

This is really bugging me and I hope you can help...

The original "You are a true friend" is from MADAGASCAR 2 as indicated..

But it's not the quote I picture in my mind..

I picture the quote coming from Nicholas Cage in a movie that has something to do with angels and demons.....

I GOT IT!!!!!

It wasn't Nicholas Cage... It was Ben Affleck...

"You are a true friend, Azreal"
-Bartleby, DOGMA

Thank you for your assistance.. :D

While, at the same time, curtailing US Oil Production so much so that Basement Biden had to go to OPEC *AND* Russia with hat in hand, begging for more oil...

Apparently, only US oil infrastructure causes "Climate Change".. Foreign Oil Infrastructure apparently is perfectly acceptable... :eyeroll:

with you on the jerusalem embassy, i was a bit of a chicken little on that count, and it turns out the sky didn't fall.

You should ask yourself why that is?? :D

however, that's not an economic decision.

Fair enough.. I have a couple crib sheets of President Trump's awesome accomplishments and didn't bother to omit non-economic issues..

if we're going to go into foreign policy, his middle east madman strategy was a pleasant surprise.

Madman??? So, you are characterizing The Abraham Accords as "madman"-ish??

Ask yourself.. Do you base that on the facts?? Or your animosity towards President Trump??

however, i could write dissertations on how donald failed everywhere else.

Not factually accurate.. There were more successes than failures..

he abandoned our allies, embraced our adversaries, and was generally incompetent on pretty much everything.

Would you write disserations on how Basement Biden ACTUALLY threw our allies under the bus in Afghanistan.. Where Basement Biden ACTUALLY worked *with* RUSSIA to help build their pipeline in contravention of US interests??

My how far we have come from Democrats' and their Russia Collusion Delusion, eh?? :D

Failure in Foreign Policy is not exclusive to President Trump..

Basement Biden has been MUCH MUCH worse in that department..

What was it that Odumbo's SecDef said??

"Biden has been wrong in EVERY foreign policy decision of the last 40 years.."

and back or not, you're always welcome as far as i'm concerned. (no sour grapes gt, it's simply not your call)

"Thanks, Alex! You are a true friend!"
-Marty, MADAGASCAR: ESCAPE 2 AFRICA

One of two left in here in Weigantia(™michale)..

:D

with you on the jerusalem embassy, i was a bit of a chicken little on that count, and it turns out the sky didn't fall. however, that's not an economic decision. if we're going to go into foreign policy, his middle east madman strategy was a pleasant surprise. turns out nixon and kissinger were right after all, you just need a real madman. however, i could write dissertations on how donald failed everywhere else. he abandoned our allies, embraced our adversaries, and was generally incompetent on pretty much everything.

the positive economic portion of [41] was already in the distant past by election day, due to donald's disastrously inadequate covid response. his contribution to vaccine development was just about the only thing he did right on covid, yet he won't even take credit for it. donald's energy policy was short-term and shortsighted. tax cuts were mostly for the wealthiest americans, and not all that helpful for anyone else - pretty weak sauce in comparison to biden's american rescue plan.

and back or not, you're always welcome as far as i'm concerned. (no sour grapes gt, it's simply not your call)

:)
JL

Democrat Civil War!!!

Com'on, Manchin... Just switch Partys already... :D

Republican cult of economic failure,

-Lowest unemployment in 50 years
-Lowest unemployment for women in 70 years
-Lowest unemployment for black and hispanic Americans... EVER
-Put the US Embassy in Israel's capital where it belongs
-Biggest civil rights boost for native and black Americans since Democrats fought tooth and nail against civil rights in the 50s and 60s
- Destroyed ISIS
- The stock market setting records
- Our Navy back up to over 300 ships (Obama let it get below 300)
- Gave Americans and American companies a tax cut
- Repealed the unconstitutional Individual mandate in the abomination known as “ObamaCare”
- Got America out of the asinine Paris Climate Change Accord
-Got America out of the even more asinine Iran Nuclear Deal
- Made America the largest producer of oil
-Made America Energy independent

Failure???

Shirley, you jest... :D

Let me address #32 later when I am not at work.. I promise to get to it as there are many errors in it.. :D heh

Chris is always banning words, Michale ... on a yearly basis, in fact.

And I'm sure 'woke' and all of its variants made the list a while ago, ya know

Actually, that list comes from words by some Left Wing university and are mostly tongue in cheek...

I never knew that it actually applied to Weigantia(™michale)....

Live and learn..

Well, a lot could happen between now and election day. Of course, a lot could not happen, as well ... and, sadly, already has. SIGH.

Yes, a lot could happen..

But the BBB has become representative of the entire Biden administration... Biden and his progressive allies have stated that passing the BBB is "life and death"...

It's hard to postulate a scenario that supplants this Democrat/Biden utter failure in the minds of the voters..

gt, are you having a bad day? Don't worry, just post something clever. :)

I noticed that as well.. I recall'ed GT as a fairly stable and affiable commenter... I just wrote it off to him (or her??) being so depressed that Democrats blew it so badly...

Actually, the opposite is true. But, that knowledge may predate your arrival here. It's been so long and I've lost all track of time. :)

Ahhhh The golden years of Weigantian(™michale) Renaissance... :D I remember those years fondly..

As for the rest of us, it's always better to respond with intelligence alongside a healthy helping of humour, remembering all the while that we are all WEIGANTIANS and, as such, deserve any and all common courtesy if not outright respect from and toward each other and all the rest.

Would that we all could... :^/

And, that last bit goes triple for you, MICHALE!

MOI???? :D OK Fair enough...

But I am constrained to point out that I rarely, if ever START anything..

However, I will make an extreme effort to limit my comments and insults to generic Democrats and not make things personal..

But I only have control over my own actions.. Fingers crossed..

Here is an official WELCOME BACK!! to Michale.

While I honestly and truly appreciate the sentiment..

"I am not back!!!"

:D

Could it be that the gap in thinking about what is best for America, economically and otherwise, between Wall Street and Main Street is begining to narrow?

If so, that is good news for implementing Democratic economic policy, bad news for the Republican cult of economic failure, and very good news, generally speaking, for America and Americans ...

(Sorry, couldn't resist ALL caps. Heh)

As for the rest of us, it's always better to respond with intelligence alongside a healthy helping of humour, remembering all the while that we are all WEIGANTIANS and, as such, deserve any and all common courtesy if not outright respect from and toward each other and all the rest.

And, that last bit goes triple for you, MICHALE!

Yeah, it was nice while it lasted. Probably not the best of timing vis a vis fundraising season.

Actually, the opposite is true. But, that knowledge may predate your arrival here. It's been so long and I've lost all track of time. :)

, God, he's back. Time once again to practice ones skimming technique, so as not to waste time reading heavily bolded nonsense.

Also, time to stop replying-in-kind! Heh.

You know, that's what always gets us into trouble, ya know...

Well, a lot could happen between now and election day. Of course, a lot could not happen, as well ... and, sadly, already has. SIGH.

And I'm sure 'woke' and all of its variants made the list a while ago, ya know

The Biden agenda is hardly far left. In fact, I would say that Biden has reined in the far left of his party pretty successfully. It's the 'Manchin right' that is the problem for everyday Americans, to say nothing of the impact on them of the Republcian cult of economic failure. Ahem.

"I'm not on the left; I'm not on the right. I'm in the center with Joe Biden. Come join me!" ... one of my top favourite Joe Biden quotes.

Why do you suppose Biden got elected president, Michale? Just a matter of tens of thousands of votes in a couple or three states and Trump would have won!

Biden won because there were enough sane Republican voters who saw Joe Biden for the moderate pol and practical guy he is and always has been and always will be. The guy who knows what it is that American families need to survive and thrive and is always thinking about what is in their best interests.

And, while I have your attention, are you as outraged as I am at how most Republicans these days are afraid to show support for cops, particularly if they happen to work at the Capitol? It's really incredible how low some of them have sunk. So low, in fact, I'm thinking that law enforcement, in general, will eventually conclude that their blanket support for the GOP is, and has been, misplaced.

"We are intent on not letting omicron disrupt work and school for the vaccinated. You’ve done the right thing, and we will get through this. For the unvaccinated, you’re looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm."

Hmmmmmm Won't look too good on a Bumper Sticker..

"We're all in this together"....

Unless you don't agree with Democrat Party draconian mandates for a virus that has a 99%+ survival rate..

In THAT case, Americans is only getting "a winter of severe illness and death"....

So much for Basement Biden's claim that he will end divisive governing and kick COVID's arse!!

Asleep at the wheel...

Let's be serious here.. Does ANYONE expect Democrats *NOT* to get Uber-Shellacking in Nov of 2022???

Apparently, I am not on the distribution list.. :^( Hehe..

Please add me to it.. If you don't remember my email, you can get it from NYpoet... :D

"Woke", Michale? You've been away too long, I guess, to know that word has been banned around here.

Come on, you ... come on, get with the program!!

So.... Weigantia(™michale) is banning words now??? :^/

"Oh how the mighty have fallen..."
-Guinan, STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION

Come on, you ... come on, get with the program!!

Nothing like screwing over ones own clients ehh?

Please explain this??

I am not sure what "clients" and "30 years in the making" has to do with hating the messenger because you don't like the message??

Please use plain english..

Tanks... And planes!! :D

There went the neighborhood...

I guess we can call it The Return of JL and EM's troll returns.... with open arms.
And before the whole Don't hate the messenger simply because ya don't like the message.. gets repeated... I would point out that this has been thirty plus years in the making.

Nothing like screwing over ones own clients ehh?

There went the neighborhood...

I guess we can call it The Return of JL and EM's troll returns.... with open arms.
And before the whole Don't hate the messenger simply because ya don't like the message.. gets repeated... I would point out that this has been thirty plus years in the making.

Nothing like screwing over ones own clients ehh?

Voters have grown wary of a Democratic Party that they feel is both ineffective at governing and more attuned to their own priorities than to the concerns of the broader American electorate, our data collectively shows. This is a prevalent overarching sentiment among Independents, a decisive voting bloc, and surprisingly, among a sizeable number of Democrats.

Two-thirds of likely voters overall (66 percent) – including strong majorities of Independents (63 percent) and Democrats (59 percent) —agree that President Biden and national Democrats are not only “out-of-touch with hardworking Americans,” but moreover, that they “have been so focused on passing their own agenda that they’ve been ignoring Americans’ day-to-day concerns, such as the rising prices for goods and gasoline.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/586418-the-democratic-partys-deterioration-is-shattering-hope-for-the-midterms

You see, Liz?? This is EXACTLY the problem I am pointing out..

Democrats have made a hard Left into socialist priorities that only address the wants of the elites to control the masses thru economic incentives..

In other words, Democrats don't care about AMERICANS, the only care about their agenda.. An agenda that has failed over and over again in many places, including Venezuela..

Of likely voters, 66% feel that Biden and the Democrats are out of touch... That includes a *MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS*!!! 59%... I mean, forget Independents and NPAs such as myself.. Any Democrat needs us to win.. We are the group that determines elections.. And 63% of us feel that Democrats are more concerned with their woke agenda and ignoring the needs of every day Americans..

But forget about us.. Forget the Independents/NPAs.. The Democrat Party can't even sell it's OWN PARTY on it's Leftist Woke Socialist agenda.. We see that in that 59% of Democrats feel Democrats are out of touch.. We see it when Democrats can't sell Joe Manchin on their Leftist Woke Socialist agenda..

If Democrats can't sell their own agenda to THEIR OWN Party, what's the logical course of action?? Re-evaluate the agenda...

Com'on, Liz.. You can do the math...

Combine all of Democrat Party problems above with their anti-cop and anti-America attitudes??

What did Democrats think was going to happen??

Democrats have made and are continuing to make one of the biggest mistakes they can make..

They actually BELIEVE their own press releases...

And that is why the Democrat Party is crashing and burning and will, from all the evidence, be the Minority Party for the next decade at least..

As you can see above, many Weigantians(™michale) blame the messenger because they don't like the facts of the message... In that, Weigantia(™michale) hasn't changed much.. :D

But since I am likely just passing through, ya'all will continue to ride the Hindenburg until it's ultimate and pre-ordained conclusion...

Don't hate the messenger simply because ya don't like the message..

}}}Yeah, it was nice while it lasted.{{{

Says the guy who couldn't help but talk about me while I was away.. :D It's nice ta bee missed..

I missed your response to my laying out of the facts.. Dogs must have ate your homework, eh?? :D

No music tonight??? Everyone too depressed??

}}}So, Senator Manchin has trouble explaining things, eh?{{{

No.. Democrats have trouble putting forth legislation that actually HELPS America without any forcing their un-American agenda on this country...

}}}I'd like to give him a few pointers. Ahem.{{{

He would much prefer that Democrats give him something he can actually vote for..

But they are too wrapped up in their woke agenda to care about ALL Americans..

And they lose..

Is anyone REALLY surprised??

Yeah, it was nice while it lasted. Probably not the best of timing vis a vis fundraising season.

Time once again to practice ones skimming technique, so as not to waste time reading heavily bolded nonsense.

"LET'S GO BRANDON!!!"

:D

"I’ve always said this, if I can’t go home and explain to the people of West Virginia I can’t vote for it. And I cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. I just can’t. I’ve tried everything humanly possible. I can’t get there. This is a no on this piece of legislation. I have tried everything I know to do."
-Democrat Joe Manchin

Democrat Joe Manchin just torpedoed ANY chance of Democrats making ANY kind of relevant showing in the 2022 Mid Terms....

I mean, ya'all just GOTTA love the irony, eh???

Democrats/Socialists could not even sell their wet dream
to their OWN PARTY!!!!

To paraphrase the indominantable Gene Hackman..

"You were great in your day, Democrat Party.. But it stands to reason that, when it came time to cash in your chips, President Donald Trump would be your banker.."

:D

But.. GAAWWD DAMN!!! Did Democrats get punked or what!!!??? :D

Manchin kills Build Back Better and gives nation – and Republicans – a big win
Build Back Better was the queen of Biden’s domestic agenda

But when infrastructure passed with GOP votes the House progressives were left out in the cold to kick rocks. Their leverage evaporated in an instant.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/manchin-kills-build-back-better-nation-republicans-win-david-marcus

I said at the time that the GOP needs to wise up and drag the BIF over the finish line to stick their thumbs in the eye of the entire DEMOCRAT PARTY in general and Basement Biden in particular.. :D And lo and behold...

Progressives and "The Squad" got played like a well used fiddle... And it was the GOP who was calling the tune.. :D

Progressives and "The Squad" got rolled bigger than when McConnel rolled the Democrats to deny Odumbo his SCOTUS pick.. :D

Gods bless America!!! :D

I just LOVE it when Progressives/Democrats get rolled.. :D

Brings a tear of joy to me eye... :D

I mean, how hilarious is it??

Democrats need REPUBLICANS to pass the BIF and utterly FAIL on the BUILD BACK BETTER AKA Democrat/Socialist Wet Dream bill... :D

Merry Frakin' Christmas to America!! :D

Democrats' DEFUND, DEMONIZE, DEMORALIZE THE POLICE...

San Francisco embarked down its disastrous defund-the-police, fund-other-agencies road last year, and it didn’t turn out well. Its police department shrank, and violence, thefts, open-air drug dealing and overdose deaths soared.
https://nypost.com/2021/12/17/defund-the-police-doesnt-work-as-mayors-are-finding-out-the-hard-way/

Who could have *POSSIBLY* predicted this would happen!!??? :eyeroll:

Oh.. Wait... Only people with an iota of common sense and more than 2 brain cells to rub together...

Which leaves out ALL Trump/America hating Democrats...

p.p.s. my donation is coming soon, just have to work out some household finances first.

"Governors instituting rules to combat the pandemic's spread -- and then getting caught disobeying their own rules -- Enough Already!"

We (my family) are exceptionally aware of and respectful of proper pandemic protocols. In public, we wear masks 100% of the time (or nearly so). We publically distance 100% of the time (or nearly so). We do everything else recommended 100% of the time (or nearly so).

Once in a while, we screw up, just like EVERY OTHER HUMAN BEING!!! That a person screws up (even a leader) doesn't mean it's license for someone else to completely ignore protocols.

So, instead, might I suggest that "expecting our leaders to be perfect 100% of the time, while actually electing human beings: Enough already!

Back on topic.

Back in 2000 I accompanied my Mother to Ukraine and Russia on a tour that featured a class twice a week.

We were listening to a professor from MSU (Moscow State University) when he said,

The main difference between Russia and America is that in America when you pay a bribe, you get results.

I reflexively raised my hand, determined to defend my country. But as I thought about it my hand lowered. Because he was right, alas, with Sinema being just another case in point.

This year, almost singlehandedly, Sinema torpedoed any sort of meaningful and wide-reaching prescription drug pricing reform. Democrats in the House and Senate had come up with a plan which would force the drug companies to rein in their rapacious greed, and Sinema refused to even consider it. She initially wanted zero drug pricing reform at all, but then slightly backed down and allowed the absolute minimum effort to make it into the draft of the Build Back Better bill. Why this change in heart? Well, perhaps this headline explains things a bit: "Big Pharma, Medical Firms Donated $750K To Kyrsten Sinema -- Then She Opposed The Drug Bill."
"

Only $750,000???? Considering who knows the millions or maybe billions of dollars of profits that $750,000 just bought?????
People in government are cheap whores. $7,500,000 would've been more appropriate and even that is a drop in the bucket. You may say Sinema is a capitalist but she most certainly doesn't realize the true value of her service to Big Pharma.
I think our government is far more corrupt than anybody realizes.

I especially like the award for "Most Original Thinker" but, I'm not sure how original that is. Only because Biden has been preeching about that almost from his beginnings in the US Senate.

One of my favourite Senator Biden quotes is ... "I'm not on the right, I'm not on the left. I'm in the middle with Joe Biden. Come join me!".

And, he wasn't talking about his senate or congressional colleagues - he was talking directly to the American people.

I'm sure this is one of the things that attracted me to Biden from the very beginning - during the Iran/Contra hearings, c1987 ...