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		<title>By: ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Friday Talking Points -- The Hidden Biden Boom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Friday Talking Points -- The Hidden Biden Boom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2021 00:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2021 07:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MtnCaddy,

I don&#039;t know what happened this last Sunday night. Not sure why I was missing in action. Could be because I work in retail and I am dead tired. I think I fell asleep and never woke up, so to speak. Heh.

Anyway ... I like your singles idea. Let&#039;s do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MtnCaddy,</p>
<p>I don't know what happened this last Sunday night. Not sure why I was missing in action. Could be because I work in retail and I am dead tired. I think I fell asleep and never woke up, so to speak. Heh.</p>
<p>Anyway ... I like your singles idea. Let's do it!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/12/08/the-fake-fox-news-christmas-tree/#comment-181865</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2021 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss Michale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss Michale.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2021 01:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;My dear you are ugly, but tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be ugly&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

in any case, i disagree with you about michale. he&#039;s not really toxic himself, he just has a way of bringing out the toxicity in others.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://youtu.be/75N4HSvoSOA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it&#039;s a talent
&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>"My dear you are ugly, but tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be ugly"</b></p>
<p>in any case, i disagree with you about michale. he's not really toxic himself, he just has a way of bringing out the toxicity in others.</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/75N4HSvoSOA" rel="nofollow">it's a talent<br />
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/12/08/the-fake-fox-news-christmas-tree/#comment-181854</link>
		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 16:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[9]







Curious as to why you rate CW as &lt;b&gt;Most Futile Weigantian.&lt;/b&gt;






I know English isn&#039;t your first language, so I&#039;ll splain:






First off, CW is &lt;b&gt;Weigant.&lt;/b&gt; He is known by many names such as &lt;i&gt;The Source&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;The Architect,&lt;/i&gt; but not &lt;i&gt;Weigantia.&lt;/i&gt;







&lt;b&gt;Weigantia&lt;/b&gt; is this comments section.





I nominated you after carefully considering your inability to &quot;engage&quot; with those of your fellow &lt;b&gt;Weigantians&lt;/b&gt; like myself and John M. from Ct who address OD along with your track record of not responding to anyone&#039;s objections to OD and your failure to persuade.







Let&#039;s put it this way...&lt;i&gt;ain&#039;t nobody sending YOU money this Christmas for your so-called work.&lt;/i&gt;





To paraphrase my hero Sir Winston Churchill,



&lt;i&gt;Last night I was drunk and you were completely ineffectual. Today I am sober and you are STILL completely ineffectual.</description>
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<p>Curious as to why you rate CW as <b>Most Futile Weigantian.</b></p>
<p>I know English isn't your first language, so I'll splain:</p>
<p>First off, CW is <b>Weigant.</b> He is known by many names such as <i>The Source</i> or <i>The Architect,</i> but not <i>Weigantia.</i></p>
<p><b>Weigantia</b> is this comments section.</p>
<p>I nominated you after carefully considering your inability to "engage" with those of your fellow <b>Weigantians</b> like myself and John M. from Ct who address OD along with your track record of not responding to anyone's objections to OD and your failure to persuade.</p>
<p>Let's put it this way...<i>ain't nobody sending YOU money this Christmas for your so-called work.</i></p>
<p>To paraphrase my hero Sir Winston Churchill,</p>
<p><i>Last night I was drunk and you were completely ineffectual. Today I am sober and you are STILL completely ineffectual.</i></p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 15:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alrighty -- good to see some of the usual suspects here in Weigantia &lt;i&gt;with a bonus CW sighting!&lt;/i&gt; Guess it&#039;s time to up the quality of my posts (I penalized myself 15 yards* for unnecessary roughness for #5, above) as we have some heavy lifting to do now that  Mclaughlin season is upon us.)





*That&#039;s 13.716 meters, Elizabeth Miller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alrighty -- good to see some of the usual suspects here in Weigantia <i>with a bonus CW sighting!</i> Guess it's time to up the quality of my posts (I penalized myself 15 yards* for unnecessary roughness for #5, above) as we have some heavy lifting to do now that  Mclaughlin season is upon us.)</p>
<p>*That's 13.716 meters, Elizabeth Miller.</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 14:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A transcript of a distraught broadcaster at the Fox News Building (AKA &quot;Dirty Schlock Plaza&quot;)........ 

&lt;b&gt;&quot;It’s fire and it crashing! . . . This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world! Oh, it’s crashing . .. oh, It’s fire and it crashing! . . . This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world! Oh, it’s crashing . . . and it’s a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen. and all the screaming around here! There’s smoke, and there’s flames, now, and the frame is crashing to the ground... Oh, the Shawn Hannity!!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A transcript of a distraught broadcaster at the Fox News Building (AKA "Dirty Schlock Plaza")........ </p>
<p><b>"It’s fire and it crashing! . . . This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world! Oh, it’s crashing . .. oh, It’s fire and it crashing! . . . This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world! Oh, it’s crashing . . . and it’s a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen. and all the screaming around here! There’s smoke, and there’s flames, now, and the frame is crashing to the ground... Oh, the Shawn Hannity!!!!"</b></p>
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		<title>By: Mezzomamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mezzomamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 06:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Fox tree probably &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a religious symbol for whatever* it is that Fox followers actually worship. You know, the religion that is offended by a plain red coffee cup or generosity towards pregnant migrant women or homing the homeless, and worships guns, violence, cruelty and bullying.

*I grew up in evangelical churches and I remember very clearly when political and religious right wingers decided to ally. It was clear even then, back in the 70s, that far from putting religion into politics, they were making a god of right-wing politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Fox tree probably <i>is</i> a religious symbol for whatever* it is that Fox followers actually worship. You know, the religion that is offended by a plain red coffee cup or generosity towards pregnant migrant women or homing the homeless, and worships guns, violence, cruelty and bullying.</p>
<p>*I grew up in evangelical churches and I remember very clearly when political and religious right wingers decided to ally. It was clear even then, back in the 70s, that far from putting religion into politics, they were making a god of right-wing politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 03:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John M from Ct. -

Interesting point, but what about the pagans who started the whole tradition in the first place?  To them, it was indeed a religious object... 

(heh)

andygaus -

Now, see, that&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about!

(heh heh)

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John M from Ct. -</p>
<p>Interesting point, but what about the pagans who started the whole tradition in the first place?  To them, it was indeed a religious object... </p>
<p>(heh)</p>
<p>andygaus -</p>
<p>Now, see, that's what I'm talking about!</p>
<p>(heh heh)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re end of year Mclaughlin Awards how about these categories:




&lt;b&gt;Most Futile Weigantian&lt;/b&gt; (hint,  my nominee&#039;s initials are *cough*Don Harris*cough.)





And &lt;b&gt;Most Toxic Weigantian&lt;/b&gt; (Michale  something.)






Signed --
Department of Snark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re end of year Mclaughlin Awards how about these categories:</p>
<p><b>Most Futile Weigantian</b> (hint,  my nominee's initials are *cough*Don Harris*cough.)</p>
<p>And <b>Most Toxic Weigantian</b> (Michale  something.)</p>
<p>Signed --<br />
Department of Snark</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Elizabeth, of late I&#039;ve been MIA from Sunday Night Canadian Music Appreciation Dance Party.  But I miss it, and having finished moving this last week I happened across the ~150 45-rpm &quot;singles&quot; that I got back in the late 70s. How about a &quot;singles night&quot; theme for Sunday evening?

In other words, anything goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Elizabeth, of late I've been MIA from Sunday Night Canadian Music Appreciation Dance Party.  But I miss it, and having finished moving this last week I happened across the ~150 45-rpm "singles" that I got back in the late 70s. How about a "singles night" theme for Sunday evening?</p>
<p>In other words, anything goes.</p>
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		<title>By: andygaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>andygaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s a religious symbol, but the religion in question is Druidism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it's a religious symbol, but the religion in question is Druidism.</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it IS kind of trivial, but I get why you are bugged by it.  But MSM&#039;s failure to point out the reality of this &quot;no arbicide&quot; incident is discomforting, as I&#039;ve long thought that corporate owned media outlets (e.g. MSNBC is owned by GE) are tasked with &quot;increasing value to the Shareholders&quot; above ALL else (I learned this at a quality Business School) and consequently, NOT with reporting ANYTHING that might depress share values. Bah-humbug, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it IS kind of trivial, but I get why you are bugged by it.  But MSM's failure to point out the reality of this "no arbicide" incident is discomforting, as I've long thought that corporate owned media outlets (e.g. MSNBC is owned by GE) are tasked with "increasing value to the Shareholders" above ALL else (I learned this at a quality Business School) and consequently, NOT with reporting ANYTHING that might depress share values. Bah-humbug, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: John M from Ct.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M from Ct.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the spirit of Grinch-like pickiness of this fine rant about a Christmas display being torched by a vandal, I was a little put off by part of your conclusion:  

&quot;An attack on a religious symbol of any type is absolutely abhorrent.&quot;

I know what you mean - but is a Christmas Tree (or a display imitating one) really a &quot;religious symbol&quot; in the sense that, say, a Creche scene or a Menorah clearly is? I&#039;d argue that there is a difference, perhaps of degree, between actual religion and the cultural gee-gaws that attach to that religion over time. For instance, in this case, someone torching a tasteless Christmas-tree-like display that highlights red, white, and blue as a &#039;patriotic&#039; statement might well argue that he was *defending* the religious holiday of Christmas from crass commercialization and politicization. Perhaps the homeless arsonist is a devout Christian, appalled at how many people celebrate the Christ child&#039;s birth by going out and buying first-person shooter video games for their children.

Yes, I doubt that too. But I would pull back from the righteous self-defense of hating Fox News but averring respect for its cheesy &#039;religious symbol of any type&#039;. Tell me they put a lovely creche outside their HQ, and that it was attacked, and then I&#039;m wholly on board with it being an abhorrent act of the worst kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the spirit of Grinch-like pickiness of this fine rant about a Christmas display being torched by a vandal, I was a little put off by part of your conclusion:  </p>
<p>"An attack on a religious symbol of any type is absolutely abhorrent."</p>
<p>I know what you mean - but is a Christmas Tree (or a display imitating one) really a "religious symbol" in the sense that, say, a Creche scene or a Menorah clearly is? I'd argue that there is a difference, perhaps of degree, between actual religion and the cultural gee-gaws that attach to that religion over time. For instance, in this case, someone torching a tasteless Christmas-tree-like display that highlights red, white, and blue as a 'patriotic' statement might well argue that he was *defending* the religious holiday of Christmas from crass commercialization and politicization. Perhaps the homeless arsonist is a devout Christian, appalled at how many people celebrate the Christ child's birth by going out and buying first-person shooter video games for their children.</p>
<p>Yes, I doubt that too. But I would pull back from the righteous self-defense of hating Fox News but averring respect for its cheesy 'religious symbol of any type'. Tell me they put a lovely creche outside their HQ, and that it was attacked, and then I'm wholly on board with it being an abhorrent act of the worst kind.</p>
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