Comments on: Manchin's Bipartisan Delusion http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/ Reality-based political commentary Thu, 07 May 2026 01:20:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181182 Kick Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:58:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181182 Heh. Heh.

]]> By: ChrisWeigant.com » Friday Talking Points -- Contemptible! http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181092 ChrisWeigant.com » Friday Talking Points -- Contemptible! Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:03:49 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181092 [...] Manchin’s Bipartisan Delusion [...] [...] Manchin’s Bipartisan Delusion [...]

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181076 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:24:41 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181076 Why would I want to explain it there? Why would I want to explain it there?

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181073 nypoet22 Thu, 21 Oct 2021 05:45:13 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181073 an easy case to make to whom? certainly not as easy as pie. an easy case to make to whom? certainly not as easy as pie.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181072 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 21 Oct 2021 02:59:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181072 Don, I think it is not only possible but, a pretty easy case to make, in the grand scheme of things. Don,

I think it is not only possible but, a pretty easy case to make, in the grand scheme of things.

]]> By: John M from Ct. http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181066 John M from Ct. Thu, 21 Oct 2021 00:58:28 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181066 It's a little unclear what the point of this essay is. In conclusion, it calls for Manchin to "put up or shut up" - vote to alter the terms of the filibuster, or stop claiming the interest in voting reform that his bill seems to embody. But throughout the arguments leading to the conclusion, the essay makes clear that Manchin's decision is utterly predictable, to the point where there is actually no decision for him to make: - "...he will in all likelihood remain trapped in his delusion" - "He is refusing to accept the reality of the situation, plain and simple" - "...whether it changed his mind one iota or not, though. And 'not' is probably the safe bet, there." So, since the essay clearly doesn't believe in its own conclusion, it can't be addressing Manchin in the sense of urging him to come around. Rather, it just seems calculated to express and arouse the anger of Democratic liberals, like most of the readers of this column, against Manchin in anticipation of his coming votes later this season, when he refuses to alter the filibuster no matter what he is supposed to have learned later this week about the realities of bipartisanship in today's Senate and political arena. It's a little unclear what the point of this essay is. In conclusion, it calls for Manchin to "put up or shut up" - vote to alter the terms of the filibuster, or stop claiming the interest in voting reform that his bill seems to embody.

But throughout the arguments leading to the conclusion, the essay makes clear that Manchin's decision is utterly predictable, to the point where there is actually no decision for him to make:
- "...he will in all likelihood remain trapped in his delusion"
- "He is refusing to accept the reality of the situation, plain and simple"
- "...whether it changed his mind one iota or not, though. And 'not' is probably the safe bet, there."

So, since the essay clearly doesn't believe in its own conclusion, it can't be addressing Manchin in the sense of urging him to come around. Rather, it just seems calculated to express and arouse the anger of Democratic liberals, like most of the readers of this column, against Manchin in anticipation of his coming votes later this season, when he refuses to alter the filibuster no matter what he is supposed to have learned later this week about the realities of bipartisanship in today's Senate and political arena.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181065 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 21 Oct 2021 00:52:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181065 I mean, coal miners and everyone else living in West Virginia will be living with the damaging impacts of climate change, just like the rest of us. I mean, coal miners and everyone else living in West Virginia will be living with the damaging impacts of climate change, just like the rest of us.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181063 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 21 Oct 2021 00:29:16 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181063 Staying on the climate change file, isn't there a way to be for Biden's climate proposals AND be a good senator for people working in the coal industry? Staying on the climate change file, isn't there a way to be for Biden's climate proposals AND be a good senator for people working in the coal industry?

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/10/20/manchins-bipartisan-delusion/#comment-181062 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 21 Oct 2021 00:22:18 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=21122#comment-181062 He's also delusional when it comes to climate change. How is it possible for an ordinately intelligent Democratic member of the US senate to be against clean electricity, even if you happen to represent people in a coal state? I mean, explain that to me like I'm a six-year-old. Ahem. He's also delusional when it comes to climate change.

How is it possible for an ordinately intelligent Democratic member of the US senate to be against clean electricity, even if you happen to represent people in a coal state? I mean, explain that to me like I'm a six-year-old. Ahem.

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