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	<title>Comments on: Party Infighting In Two Ohio Special Election Primaries</title>
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		<title>By: andygaus</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179456</link>
		<dc:creator>andygaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2021 03:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine whichever Democrat won will probably be all right. And I&#039;m sure whichever Republican won in Ohio would be terrible, but I&#039;m sorry to hear that apparently Trump&#039;s horse successfully ran for the roses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine whichever Democrat won will probably be all right. And I'm sure whichever Republican won in Ohio would be terrible, but I'm sorry to hear that apparently Trump's horse successfully ran for the roses.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179451</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 18:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don Harris
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&lt;i&gt;Persuading voters means making a case for the policies you intend to carry out. &lt;/i&gt;

And you, of all people in this comments section, are criticizing Biden for not making a case for his ideas?

Heh... check your mirror! 

&lt;i&gt;Persuading voters you are going to do things and not doing them when you could is actually deceiving voters- not persuading them. &lt;/i&gt;

So what&#039;s your excuse for the abject failure of your &quot;things&quot;? Obviously you could be doing those things, except you&#039;re clearly not doing them because you&#039;re a Deceiver® and not a Persuader®.  

&lt;i&gt;Governing responsibly would be doing things like a BMI, medicare for all, cutting the military budget at least in half, banning fracking and a host of other things that Biden, the corporate Deathocrats and the alleged Deathocrat progressives have no intention of doing.&lt;/i&gt;

As if they could &quot;be doing&quot; all those &quot;things&quot; by snapping their fingers and/or issuing orders via presidential edict, except they just refuse to do that! 

This is why no one takes or need ever take you seriously, Don.

&lt;i&gt;Evil is not &quot;lurking&quot; in the Deathocrat Party.

It IS the Deathocrat Party.&lt;/i&gt;

And with that ignorant nugget, you need never waste your time ever again arguing that your bullshit is not a Purity Test®. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Harris<br />
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<p><i>Persuading voters means making a case for the policies you intend to carry out. </i></p>
<p>And you, of all people in this comments section, are criticizing Biden for not making a case for his ideas?</p>
<p>Heh... check your mirror! </p>
<p><i>Persuading voters you are going to do things and not doing them when you could is actually deceiving voters- not persuading them. </i></p>
<p>So what's your excuse for the abject failure of your "things"? Obviously you could be doing those things, except you're clearly not doing them because you're a Deceiver® and not a Persuader®.  </p>
<p><i>Governing responsibly would be doing things like a BMI, medicare for all, cutting the military budget at least in half, banning fracking and a host of other things that Biden, the corporate Deathocrats and the alleged Deathocrat progressives have no intention of doing.</i></p>
<p>As if they could "be doing" all those "things" by snapping their fingers and/or issuing orders via presidential edict, except they just refuse to do that! </p>
<p>This is why no one takes or need ever take you seriously, Don.</p>
<p><i>Evil is not "lurking" in the Deathocrat Party.</p>
<p>It IS the Deathocrat Party.</i></p>
<p>And with that ignorant nugget, you need never waste your time ever again arguing that your bullshit is not a Purity Test®. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 18:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Testing. My comment is being swallowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Testing. My comment is being swallowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179445</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 14:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don[16],

Shocking. Positively shocking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don[16],</p>
<p>Shocking. Positively shocking.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179442</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Thoughts on your girl&#039;s concession speech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Thoughts on your girl's concession speech?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179441</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 12:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. Very nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Very nice!</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179439</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 06:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth Miller
7/8

&lt;i&gt;It was the &quot;evil money&quot; that did Nina Turner in.&lt;/i&gt;

Nina Turner referred to Mike Bloomberg as an &quot;oligarch&quot; while working for Bernie Sanders, himself a millionaire with multiple homes and a member of the 1%. I&#039;m not a big fan of Bloomberg, but referring to money in those terms while working for Bernie? Duh.  

It defies logic, in my opinion, the way the progressive movement in one breath will criticize money as inherently evil and those who have it as &quot;elitists,&quot; &quot;corporatists,&quot; &quot;warmongers,&quot; etc. and then in another breath sing the praises of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a former Assistant Secretary of the Navy and one of the richest presidents in history from one of the richest families in America (adjusted for inflation). Franklin&#039;s wife&#039;s uncle Theodore (26th POTUS) was the original progressive of the wealthy family (despite being even richer) and a definite influence on his niece, Eleanor Roosevelt as well as Franklin.

So the whole progressivism rhetoric insinuating &quot;money is inherently evil&quot; and the disparagement of &quot;millionaires and billionaires&quot; combined with the FDR worship is a giant honking contradiction that seems to have escaped their notice... but I digress. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Evil is lurking in the Democratic party.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Well, Nina is definitely the Democrat who outspent her opponent, and that meets Nina&#039;s own definition, does it not?

&lt;blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s like saying to somebody, &quot;You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you&#039;ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.&quot; It&#039;s still shit. 

~ Nina Turner (D), regarding voting for Joe Biden&lt;/blockquote&gt;
*
I don&#039;t expect a member of any political party to be forced to endorse any other member of their Party or even to vote for them if they are so disinclined, but this type verbal diarrhea is nothing if not proof of a candidate&#039;s possessing &quot;shit&quot; where there ought to be brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth Miller<br />
7/8</p>
<p><i>It was the "evil money" that did Nina Turner in.</i></p>
<p>Nina Turner referred to Mike Bloomberg as an "oligarch" while working for Bernie Sanders, himself a millionaire with multiple homes and a member of the 1%. I'm not a big fan of Bloomberg, but referring to money in those terms while working for Bernie? Duh.  </p>
<p>It defies logic, in my opinion, the way the progressive movement in one breath will criticize money as inherently evil and those who have it as "elitists," "corporatists," "warmongers," etc. and then in another breath sing the praises of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a former Assistant Secretary of the Navy and one of the richest presidents in history from one of the richest families in America (adjusted for inflation). Franklin's wife's uncle Theodore (26th POTUS) was the original progressive of the wealthy family (despite being even richer) and a definite influence on his niece, Eleanor Roosevelt as well as Franklin.</p>
<p>So the whole progressivism rhetoric insinuating "money is inherently evil" and the disparagement of "millionaires and billionaires" combined with the FDR worship is a giant honking contradiction that seems to have escaped their notice... but I digress. </p>
<p><i>"Evil is lurking in the Democratic party." </i></p>
<p>Well, Nina is definitely the Democrat who outspent her opponent, and that meets Nina's own definition, does it not?</p>
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It's like saying to somebody, "You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you've got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing." It's still shit. </p>
<p>~ Nina Turner (D), regarding voting for Joe Biden</p></blockquote>
<p>*<br />
I don't expect a member of any political party to be forced to endorse any other member of their Party or even to vote for them if they are so disinclined, but this type verbal diarrhea is nothing if not proof of a candidate's possessing "shit" where there ought to be brains.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179438</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 04:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If AOC is smart, and I believe she is, she&#039;ll have Biden campaigning for her and stay far away from Nina Turner&#039;s movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If AOC is smart, and I believe she is, she'll have Biden campaigning for her and stay far away from Nina Turner's movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179437</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next year!

Well, maybe she&#039;ll learn a thing or two befor then. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next year!</p>
<p>Well, maybe she'll learn a thing or two befor then. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179436</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth Miller
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&lt;i&gt;When does AOC have to run again?&lt;/i&gt;

Even years... all of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth Miller<br />
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<p><i>When does AOC have to run again?</i></p>
<p>Even years... all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179435</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides, while Shontel Brown was described as an insider of the Democratic party and moderate, her political views are progressive ... if that word even means anything, anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, while Shontel Brown was described as an insider of the Democratic party and moderate, her political views are progressive ... if that word even means anything, anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179434</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Evil is lurking in the Democratic party.&quot;

Thank the gods she lost!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Evil is lurking in the Democratic party."</p>
<p>Thank the gods she lost!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179433</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was the &quot;evil money&quot; that did Nina Turner in. 

Can we talk about naivete?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the "evil money" that did Nina Turner in. </p>
<p>Can we talk about naivete?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179432</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The election was rigged! ... Nina Turner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The election was rigged! ... Nina Turner</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179431</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Clintons and party leaders such as James Clyburn have lined up behind Shontel Brown, and they&#039;ve been relentlessly trashing the progressive candidate, Nina Turner. &lt;/i&gt;

Good God. I do detest being on the same side as the Clintons.

What kind of ads was the Turner campaign running??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Clintons and party leaders such as James Clyburn have lined up behind Shontel Brown, and they've been relentlessly trashing the progressive candidate, Nina Turner. </i></p>
<p>Good God. I do detest being on the same side as the Clintons.</p>
<p>What kind of ads was the Turner campaign running??</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179430</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AOC calling Biden naive is pretty rich.

This is what I&#039;m talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AOC calling Biden naive is pretty rich.</p>
<p>This is what I'm talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/08/03/party-infighting-in-two-ohio-special-election-primaries/#comment-179429</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many progressive Democrats give progressivism a bad name.

They always seem to want what they want when they want it the way they want it, and to heck with filibuster-proof Democratic majorities in the US Senate - or House, for that matter.

It&#039;s one thing to move policies in the right direction. Quite another to persuade voters and govern responsibly.

Progressives could learn a lot from president Biden about all of that, if they stopped long enough to listen and work together for progressive change.

Yeah, most progressives rub me the wrong way ... maybe I&#039;m just too old. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many progressive Democrats give progressivism a bad name.</p>
<p>They always seem to want what they want when they want it the way they want it, and to heck with filibuster-proof Democratic majorities in the US Senate - or House, for that matter.</p>
<p>It's one thing to move policies in the right direction. Quite another to persuade voters and govern responsibly.</p>
<p>Progressives could learn a lot from president Biden about all of that, if they stopped long enough to listen and work together for progressive change.</p>
<p>Yeah, most progressives rub me the wrong way ... maybe I'm just too old. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 02:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So very happy the mainstream Democratic candidate won her primary!

When does AOC have to run again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very happy the mainstream Democratic candidate won her primary!</p>
<p>When does AOC have to run again?</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 02:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My own personal bias: I will be rooting for the Trump-endorsed candidate to lose and for Nina Turner to win. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krxU5Y9lCS8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You can&#039;t always get what you want&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My own personal bias: I will be rooting for the Trump-endorsed candidate to lose and for Nina Turner to win. </i></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krxU5Y9lCS8" rel="nofollow">You can't always get what you want</a>.</p>
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