South Africa for no particular reason other than the origins of QAnon can be traced there to a right-wing conspiracy theorist peddling white grievance, xenophobia, and white genocide. It was then amplified by others as a means to separate uneducated follower types from their money.

So much of the right-wing drivel and spew is for the sole purpose of grifting off the gullible masses and turning their hatred and anger of "the other" into a money-making enterprise for themselves. It's sad to watch the goalposts move and the rubes follow right along. Next move: March 4... when Donald Trump will not be sworn in as president in Washington, DC. And just like January 6 and surrounding dates, the rates at Trump's DC hotel have been increased for March 4 and surrounding dates.

You can't make this shit up. Oh, wait... yes, you can... and the angry mob/QAnon cult will swallow it whole like junkies in search of the next fix.

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-march-trump-president-1567525

Keep those goalposts moving... milk those morons for every cent. Trump U.

Just so you know, you're mic is always on. :)

Kick I have more than enough respect for you that I ask you to Kicksplain, why South Africa? Why would they want to fuck with 'Murica?

CRS wrote,

In the industrialized age (and FAR MORE so in the High-Tech age), productivity increases represent almost exclusively, more capital investment (robotics) and more advanced technology. It almost NEVER represents unskilled labor "working harder".

Those facts tend to cause the rewards of higher productivity to accrue to the investors, the inventors, the programmers.

You make an excellent point! I have a Business School background (plus Fine Arts, History and Liberal Arts) and I have NO RATIONAL CHOICE but to be 100% with you on this point. Those that risk their money/capital MUST reap the reward when they've invested wisely. Otherwise there is NO incentive for anybody to do anything, period. Full stop.

K? Having acknowledged this I wonder if our point of POTENTIAL DISAGREEMENT might lie more in the area of "How shall the (rightfully rewarded Capitalists) be properly TAXED? How might we help the working consumer to be able to buy what they helped to manufacture?" Henry Ford paid his employees more than market wages so that they could buy what they assembled.

I like the way you think. :)

Wouldn't it be a hoot if QAnon was a creation of a foreign adversary? Maybe Russia, the Chinese or Iran (payback for Stuxnet?)

Would you believe South Africa? You should.

Agreed on the BMI (aka UBI, Yang style.) I see this as an eventuality, -- with or without a second American Revolution against this two-party system that doesn't serve 90% of us. Automation (as much as NAFTA etc) has doomed the Average Joe in America. Just wait until millions of truck drivers are dumped once robotic trucks can drive themselves, never mind all the manufacturing jobs lost since Reagan.

Agreed on the fact that both parties are right-of-center Corporate whores for the rich, who distract is with the fight over social issues.

Agreed with That vast majority of citizens will still want to work to improve over basic minimum survival.

If you have a link that addresses the cost of BMI versus the existing programs you mentioned, please post it. You raise an excellent point about BMI being a complete substitute for Social Security.

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Maybe your suggestion of making it a permanent COLA instead of a fixed amount would make it have the particular effect on the budget necessary to be included??? Don’t fully understand the particulars for what does and what doesn’t qualify as “effecting the budget” to know for sure.

This might sound like an overly simplistic statement, but I think that one of the biggest causes for the political division in this country is because our Congress has forgotten how to work together to pass good legislation. Today, Members of Congress spend less time working together in the halls of Congress than past Congresses were required to do. They have made spending as little time at their jobs their focus and a priority.

The GOP in 2008 made opposing any piece of legislation that Obama supported their main plan for making him a one-term loser! The Tea Party members made making concessions with Democrats an unforgivable offense... an act of TREASON! Except for Republicans who were elected to Congress prior to 2008, those elected since then have almost no real experience of working with others.

Sadly, of the few bipartisan pieces of legislation that have been signed into law since 2008, most were created entirely by lobbyists and only required the members of Congress to sign their names to it — that was the extent of their participation in creating the legislation! If they are not forced to do the work necessary to hash out the fine points of legislation that both parties can support, “compromise” will continue to be viewed solely as a sign of weakness.

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor shared in an interview with Trevor Noah at how disappointed she was to walk by the Senate and see that only those who were giving a speech were present in the Senate while it was in session. Those speaking were speaking to the C-Span camera and a handful of various staff members running in and out of the room. It used to be that when the Senate was in session, the Senators had to be IN the Senate to know what was going on. Now Senators believe that it is a waste of their time to have to sit through these speeches when they have hired staff to watch for them and then cut them the clips of anything said that they need to hear! This permits the Senators to focus on what is important: raising money for their Party!

The average freshman member of Congress spends 30 hours a week seeking money from donors. If they work 10 hour days, five days a week, that means only 2 days out of the 5-day work week are spent doing the job that their constituents elected them to do! This means that the majority of their time is not spent working with other Senators. It means that their main focus is on their own survival and not on doing what is best for their constituents.

I believe the filibuster has historically been used only to protect Jim Crow measures and to prevent Civil Rights legislation from getting a vote in the past, and today is still the weapon best used by the party of white nationalists! It should become a relic for history books to pass judgement on ASAP!

But if the Dems cannot force themselves to get rid of it, then at least they should make those choosing to block the vote to have to earn their filibustering — require the minority filibuster to have an audience of 20 Senators in the chamber listening to what is being said for the entire length of the filibuster. If only 19 are present, the filibuster is over! This allows those who feel strongly enough in their opposition of a bill an opportunity to demonstrate just how far they will go to block the bill.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/25/the-right-can-do-better-than-freeing-markets-to-sell-human-flesh/

JL

Re "Never mind the increased productivity . . etc"

100 yrs ago, when productivity went up, much of it was because workers worked harder. In the industrialized age (and FAR MORE so in the High-Tech age), productivity increases represent almost exclusively, more capital investment (robotics) and more advanced technology. It almost NEVER represents unskilled labor "working harder".

Those facts tend to cause the rewards of higher productivity to accrue to the investors, the inventors, the programmers, the technicians, etc.

The laws of economics are far more about "facts" and "reality' than about "fair", or "compassionate". (Perhaps that's why the world thinks it needs Democrats.)

BTW I believe the figure is $26 per hour if the late 1960s/early 1970s minimum wage had simply kept up with inflation.

Never mind the vastly increased American worker productivity over this time period.

Hey, American Dream! How's that Reaganism thing working out for you?

Wouldn't it be a hoot if QAnon was a creation of a foreign adversary? Maybe Russia, the Chinese or Iran (payback for Stuxnet?)

The Rooskies would be my best guess -- they've always produced the best Chess players and know the American mind better than non-white, non-Christian Iran and China.

Excellent point, my man!

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I mean, Democrats aren't loudly touting this aspect of the bill for the same reasons they can't put a stake in the heart of the Repulican cult of economic failure or tout any other popular issue.

It's a failure to communicate and Democrats are great at it! Sigh.

The Dems could and would communicate this message...but they'd have to want it to happen.

And this is where my cynicism kicks in. Since Reaganism began 40 years ago the Dems have largely gone along with allowing wealth (and political power) to concentrate at the top. This is why Joe was way down on my list a year ago, because I thought he was just another lying whore for the rich. Action talks and malarkey walks so let's see what Joe actually does.

Well, there's another really, really good reason to abolish the filibuster, now, before the summer recess, and pass some really useful laws - H.R. 1, infrastructure, climate change, Obamacare reform, judicial reform, and now the minimum wage as well.

Why didn't anyone start with $20 this time around? Why is $15 so radically generous as to be unacceptable even to conservative Democrats? Inconceivable even to Bernie Sanders?? If I understand the long-term trends, national wealth and productivity have soared since the 1970s, even if working class incomes .. ah, how can we put this? ... HAVEN'T. In other words, the money is out there! Take a few years to ramp the index up, sure, but if you're going to lock in a rate forever using this much-vaunted Cost of Living Adjustment, why not take the opportunity to make America great again in an actually meaningful way, Democrat-style?

Humph.

This is rather mystifying, since this could be a downright historic change. Why aren't Democrats loudly touting this aspect of the bill? I have no idea.

But, you do have more than an idea, right? I mean, Democrats aren't loudly touting this aspect of the bill for the same reasons they can't put a stake in the heart of the Repulican cult of economic failure or tout any other popular issue.

It's a failure to communicate and Democrats are great at it! Sigh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/02/25/minimum-wage-increase-imperiled-covid-relief-bill-by-senate-officials-ruling/

:-(

-CW