Why are you commenting on an old thread?

Because I routinely refuse to conform to rigid constraints. :)

Why were you up so early today? Don't answer that; you'll upset the board patrol. ;)

Anyone telling you that the numbers of COVID deaths in the United States are being overblown is either misinformed or full of bullshit up to their eyeballs or both. COVID deaths are being undercounted.

The Trump administration lied to the American people from the jump regarding the severity of the disease and the number of deaths. I have no reason to lie to you.

I mean, being tested positively for the virus and actually seeing its effect on x-rays is every bit as clear and obvious as being critically injured in a car crash, no?

Yes, ma'am... 100%. The x-ray images of those where COVID has entered the lungs are unmistakable and present like small feathers. CT images of the disease as it progresses appear like ground glass.

What you describe is clearly applicable to a car crash, but much less so to COVID19.

How so?

I mean, being tested positively for the virus and actually seeing its effect on x-rays is every bit as clear and obvious as being critically injured in a car crash, no?

Got it. But you say that as if making that decision is always simple, straight forward, not subject to mis-diagnosis, human error, or even in this case, political correctness.

What you describe is clearly applicable to a car crash, but much less so to COVID19.

How much are they going to sue Florida Man for? $10 billion?

It's good to be king. Not-king is less good.

They call him "moderate", "pragmatic", "sensible", & "institutionalist", but will he vote to convict Florida Man? I wouldn't bet on it. He might get a death threat.

The CDC defines cause of death as: the disease or injury that initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death. The CDC definition and WHO definition are functionally the same.

King survived multiple heart attacks, lung cancer and stroke. They affected his life and his risk profile, but he kept on living. COVID was the event that initiated the chain of biological system failures that killed him. Not the heart, not the cancer and not the strokes.

As for the rest of you party poopers, see ya next week!

I'll be watching him do the same to Brady ... just 'cause.

Tampa Bay has home field advantage, though. Last time they played (Week 12, I believe) Patrick threw for 450+ yards and beat Brady at Tampa Bay.

Nice Buddy Holly song, btw.

Seems like Buddy inspired them all.

Peace, out. :)

You know, it's kind of like the story of how PRiSM formed!

The Quarrymen, a skiffle group from Liverpool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4_LMMKq8Hw

That'll Be The Day, another song by Charles Hardin Holley a.k.a. Buddy Holly... the pride of Lubbock, Texas.

Enjoy!

I'm playing catch-up tonight, EM. I had to watch my boy Patrick Mahomes (another Texan and also a pride of Lubbock) kick some Buffalo Bills butt. :)

I'll be watching him do the same to Brady ... just 'cause.

Nice Buddy Holly song, btw.

I meant to post this a little earlier - it's the Beatles audition on New Year's Day, 1962 for Decca Records ... pretty phenomenal ...

Decca thought it was so "phenomenal" that they rejected them. Failed audition. Thankfully. :)

The company I work for is headquartered in Hamburg and I was fortunate enough to visit this lovely city on a business trip. Went on a private walking tour with a guy who knew them and the important sites, including the incredible Beatlemania museum.

At the museum there was a room set up with several rows of chairs and on all four walls, floor to ceiling, was footage of a Beatles concert with all of the girls screaming like crazy - you really got a sense of what it must have been like for them on stage. What a blast!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WoIQG9qZ_s

One more from '64 ... last dance for me. Heh.

I played that before when you played the two old men doing it, remember?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HasaQvHCv4w

Just came across this gem from the Beatles' important stint in Hamburg ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJbAMYcNxbE

I meant to post this a little earlier - it's the Beatles audition on New Year's Day, 1962 for Decca Records ... pretty phenomenal ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMlZxHk938

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCBXTfoVq8

The Beatles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_80s6S_7Vw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ4Ym9Xiw3w

Here are the Kinks ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2GmzyeeXnQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2RnxZnubCM

Got a favourite from '64?

How about '65?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqpysaAo4BQ

The piano solo was sped up to make it sound like a harpsichord. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTsB-llTzyc&list=RDb-VAxGJdJeQ&index=11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o9pWOGn9Yg&list=RDb-VAxGJdJeQ&index=10

Is there anyone alive out there!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vATndqkDTGs

Another of his early Stones favourites was the "crude and powerful" Not Fade Away...

Hey! Good choice. That's a song written by Charles Hardin Holley a.k.a. Buddy Holly, the pride of Lubbock, Texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN2L84dvoag

I'm playing catch-up tonight, EM. I had to watch my boy Patrick Mahomes (another Texan and also a pride of Lubbock) kick some Buffalo Bills butt. :)

Okay, all you left-coasters and night owls in the east, time to take over for the next few hours but, before I go, one more from the Beatles ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S302kF8MJ-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4gGFk2P854

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQWgwBaRik0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjyj8qnqkYI

Here is a beautifully restored video of the classic PRiSM lineup doing Armageddon, off their third studio album of the same name from 1979 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fvAywpTCe8&list=RDMM&start_radio=1

That was fun!

The tune, I mean. :)

Got a favourite from '64?

At least, she has a tune to go along with it. :)

Enjoy the long version of this instrumental track - there is a story to go along with this recording studio but you'll have to get Rocket's book to read all about it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXQYDfLxVtk

You make Jimmy Dore look like an amateur at twisting things.

So apparently you do agree wholeheartedly with several of the multiple posters on this board that Jimmy Dore is an inveterate liar; however, my post actually said nothing at all about your obsession with Jimmy Dore, but maybe we could all agree that he's a dick and you could stop obsessing about him in the comments section herein.

It was horribly misleading of me to quote you verbatim (including the link to your quote) and twist your words to suggest you were looking to "cash in personally on the back end with a book deal" when your actual words were you were expecting to:

While I don’t expect to ever approach this amount, I will never take more than 100 thousand dollars per year ( peanuts by political consultant compensation ) even if Voucher Vendetta were to receive hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in contributions because I want your money to be used for Voucher Vendetta. ( If Voucher Vendetta is successful I expect I may have the opportunity to cash in personally on the back end with a book deal or something along those lines.

[bold emphasis mine]

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And prove yourself as a troll and an amateur at rational discussion.

I quoted your website and its founder (you) who stated unequivocally that he did "expect" he "may have the opportunity to cash in personally," and I realize that it definitely does make you appear to be a troll when you grift here repetitively with the goal of forcing another man to shill your own spew. However, I disagree vehemently that it sounded like an "amateur" because there was nowhere in that particular post that contained your bio... which obviously would have made it sound amateurish.

Do I have a song for that?

Duh.

Liar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl96cYyMGbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mZrHFUlb1M

You make Jimmy Dore look like an amateur at twisting things.

So apparently you do agree wholeheartedly with several of the multiple posters on this board that Jimmy Dore is an inveterate liar; however, my post actually said nothing at all about your obsession with Jimmy Dore, but maybe we could all agree that he's a dick and you could stop obsessing about him in the comments section herein.

It was horribly misleading of me to quote you verbatim (including the link to your quote) and twist your words to suggest you were looking to "cash in personally on the back end with a book deal" when your actual words were you were expecting to:

While I don’t expect to ever approach this amount, I will never take more than 100 thousand dollars per year ( peanuts by political consultant compensation ) even if Voucher Vendetta were to receive hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in contributions because I want your money to be used for Voucher Vendetta. ( If Voucher Vendetta is successful I expect I may have the opportunity to cash in personally on the back end with a book deal or something along those lines.

[bold emphasis mine]

https://www.onedemand.org/about-the-founder/

And prove yourself as a troll and an amateur at rational discussion.

I quoted your website and its founder (you) who stated unequivocally that he did "expect" he "may have the opportunity to cash in personally," and I realize that it definitely does make you appear to be a troll when you grift here repetitively with the goal of forcing another man to shill your own spew. However, I disagree vehemently that it sounded like an "amateur" because there was nowhere in that particular post that contained your bio... which obviously would have made it sound amateurish.

Do I have a song for that?

Duh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl96cYyMGbs

Yeah, this was quite popular in the early sixties. Thankfully, it was a bit before my time but, I'm gonna give it a go-go, anyways. Heh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALR13MJLAs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3T-9wCVQPw

1964, in fact, was a great year for music, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6RWnGQ3XqQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i50OprCuu4

Rocket is, among many other things, a drummer in Vancouver's PRiSM and was a member of the definitive five, the classic lineup of Lindsay Mitchel, John Hall, Al Harlow, Ron Tabak and, Rocket Norton (1977-1980), and beyond.

His book is a definitive account of life in a rock and roll, the whole nine yards, the whole shebang ... sex, drugs and rock 'n roll, definitively!

Anyway, it all got started for a thirteen year old Rocket one certain evening in February, 1964 in Vancouver while waiting with great anticipation in front of a TV set for Ed Sullivan to introduce the Beatles.

The next day he bought a small drum set and was organizing a band at his friends' house before the day was out ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jenWdylTtzs&list=RDjenWdylTtzs&index=1

Welcome, everybody - let's have some fun tonight!

https://youtu.be/rQqwG_rQx7A

Good luck to the legislators and/or president that choose that path or legislators that choose not to fund it.

Indeed!

Do you think it would be a good idea to keep improving the ACA, incrementally so that more and more people are benefiting to the point where universal healthcare is no longer some pie in the sky notion but something tangible that is here to stay, no matter what and will only get better?

The never-mentioned problem with Medicare for All (which I strongly support)is that our health delivery system was never ever planned, but rather grew and evolved in a total vacuum, as a by-product of WWII labor shortages in the war-time economy. As a result, we have a plethora of entrenched and established 'middle-men' earning their (outrageous) incomes from the existing system who are willing to spread a huge portion of those (outrageous) incomes in the form of bribes to politicians in an effort to maintain those (outrageous) incomes!

The sorry truth is that our current system is such a financial juggernaut that IT IS far BEYOND THE CAPACITY of a mere "executive order to restructure.

How does that sound?

Not sure where you're going with that. More like that "one unique sperm" and that "one unique egg" (along with all the other non-unique sperms and eggs) were all subject to mortality.

It's not always easy to isolate any unique or particular thing that causes a seriously deteriorated heart to quit pumping at age 87, and I maintain the the panic pounders among the news media, who thrive on proclaiming disasters, are abusing that fact to sell advertising $, gain listeners, gain notoriety, (all the same thing) etc.

Even worse, the republicans are busy infighting. Lets let them have fun with that for a while. An executive order for medicare for all would stop the infighting and laser focus them to that issue to rally behind.

Please at least get your nit-picking snark right. I did use two ells. You've misquoted my misspelled word.

Re " . .the left is Twittering for a secret balet . ."

Not meaning to nit-pick your spelling, but the word is actually 'ballet' (two ells). You reference some trial thing going on in FL that I don't know about, but can't wait for you guys to get AOC and her fellow "squad" members in tutus and on stage, demonstrating the fact that the impeachment talk is all just a theatrical production.

That is very good mask literacy and advice.

I look at mask wearing, at least with regard to the kind of cloth face coverings that I wear, as a show of respect for others.

Also, masking up is just one piece - and not the most important one at that - of an overall and comprehensive package of public health measures that will reduce transmission and ultimately end this pandemic.

In the US, it has seemed that only one measure is focused on at a time. First it was masking and now it's vaccines. No one measure is the answer. They have to start doing it all!

I wish Biden and team, particularly the CDC, would release an easy to understand and follow set of health guidelines that clearly set out ALL of the behaviors individuals should be following and ALL of what all levels of government are doing to support those behaviors, everywhere. Without that, it's hard to get everyone on the same page and get the virus under control.

Solidarity, solutions, science.

i said the same about the filibuster.

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2021/01/21/unity-may-be-short-lived/#comment-174177

CW is a cat person. calling him "bad doggy" probably doesn't compute. also, it sounds from your description like jimmy dore is not particularly credible. are your posts to him equally harsh?

pie is always credible.

JL

Yes, Jimmy Dore does do that

By "that", you must mean "lies a lot".

Of course, you would use those videos to say Jimmy Dore should be ignored.

Actually, I would say that he should be avoided like the plague. We each randomly chose a video and we each got a pack of lies. There's no good reason to expect anything but more lying if another is watched. I'll take that back. A headache can also be expected.

If it turns out that members of Congress materially assisted the rioters, that's different. For example, if they gave tours for reconnaissance, they should be expelled for that.

The vote could conceivably end up 100 to 0. Even the death cult zombies could figure it out.

There you go, getting my hopes up again and letting my imagination run away with me. I think I'll play that one sunday night.

i believe i said the same thing back in [3]

JL

The flaw in this plan is that they all hate him and even the boot-lickers want him out of the way for 2024. The vote could conceivably end up 100 to 0. Even the death cult zombies could figure it out.

At age 85, I have all those latter physical 'attributes' you describe, and was seriously hoping they were an indication that I didn't have to endure the lefty insanity prevailing around here for much longer.

Said the guy who free from duress notified the forum of the fact that he was voluntarily reading "Huffpost."

You should be forewarned that the majority on this forum do not suffer from the Righty affliction of being unable to "connect the dots." :)

Have you seen a recent picture of him? It's a bit of a stretch to even define an 87 yr old with "multiple heart attacks, lung cancer and a stroke" as being "alive", just because his heart was pumping.

Did you are did you not recently turn 85 yourself?

Rhetorical question.

Who do I talk to about the lockdown in my neck of the woods?

Talk to the hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Fyf4R-nzI

Sorry Kick, still more "off topic" ranting. (For some reason Chris' current topics don't really resonate with me.)

Ranting is your thing.

Just read on Huffpost where famous radio/TV talk show host Larry King lied at age 87.

Chris' current topics don't resonate with you so you went to Huffpost? Heh. Where you learned that Larry King lied at age 87. You simply cannot trust old men. Old men are liars. Take Donald Trump for instance, and take the majority of GOP who are old men and lied. They lied about the election; they lied about an impeachment trial being unconstitutional. Grand Old Prevaricators lied!

He had in recent times suffered from "multiple heart attacks, lung cancer (lifelong heavy smoker) and a stroke", but of course, he died of COVID19, the dread pandemic, or more aptly the Dempanic.

Oh, he died? Well, that's very different. Nevermind!

let's all have some unity by supporting pie.

I pledge to support every single pie that takes less than 200 ingredients. :)

While I don’t expect to ever approach this amount, I will never take more than 100 thousand dollars per year ( peanuts by political consultant compensation ) even if Voucher Vendetta were to receive hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in contributions because I want your money to be used for Voucher Vendetta. ( If Voucher Vendetta is successful I expect I may have the opportunity to cash in personally on the back end with a book deal or something along those lines.

~ Big Money Harris

https://www.onedemand.org/about-the-founder/

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How's that cashing in personally on the back end with a book deal working out for you? Rhetorical question.

A writer who'd take more than $200 for a book deal cannot be trusted and has no integrity... because I said so.

Seems to me like the only thing you got against Big Money is the fact you ain't making it.

So to recap: While Big Money Harris might have failed spectacularly at "cashing in" on the "back end," it wasn't for lack of trolling and flailing and spamming and failing. :)

For the sake of unity, we should all move on.

I know, right, JFC!? We should also be uniting the forum by adopting the troll's agenda.

You can already see that the GOP has decided they're not going to hold Trump responsible for his crimes. They've made the decision that they're going to double down on the election lies by pushing more right-wing lies, falsehoods, and bullshit:

* The only way to have unity is to move on and ignore the crimes of Benedict Donald.

* The only way to have unity is to leave the Trump agenda in place and adopt the GOP agenda. *laughs*

__________

New Big Lie: It's unconstitutional to have a trial if the accused has left office.

I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?

~ Donald Trump

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After he violated multiple laws, he could just resign/leave office and couldn't be held accountable because we should all just move on and adopt his agenda for unity's sake.

*I can't stop laughing*

He described himself as sick, ugly, feeble, & disabled AND he lives in Idaho. How much non-distant socializing could he be doing? He says that at least some of what he does do is done with a mask. It's a shock that he hasn't caught covid, isn't it?

Let's invite him into the reality based community.

You haven't caught it because you are wearing a mask when you can't guarantee that you'll be able to keep proper physical distance and you're following the other simple health measures that we can all follow to save lives.

And, I'm very glad to hear it! I mean that sincerely, I'm not trying to be facecious here.

I watched a Jimmy Dore video about a convoy of 40 military trucks entering Syria from Iraq on January 21st. According to Jimmy Dore this is proof that Biden and America with it is back in the war game! Then checked out some articles about the move. All had some variation of this little snippet:

Other local media report that such maneuvers are not unusual as the US often moves transfers equipment between Iraq and Syria.

So Jimmy is pushing a big warmonger conspiracy out of a nothing burger...

I watched him ranting and lying about the $2K checks. It's hard to take very much.

At no point did I expect a check for $2K because I understand English and pay attention. The congress passed a bill with $600 payments, Florida Man said it should be $2K and the Dems moved to add $1,400. They were not proposing an additional $2K.

I hate to think what his "comedy" is like although there was somebody laughing at him while he lied. Maybe that's what I was watching.

Not convinced of that. Supposedly, I'm among the most vulnerable, and I never wear a mask except to go in places that requires it, and I haven't managed to catch it in all this time.

Good news (for you). COVID is really easy to catch.

You really know how to break a guys' heart. At age 85, I have all those latter physical 'attributes' you describe, and was seriously hoping they were an indication that I didn't have to endure the lefty insanity prevailing around here for much longer.

Now my hopes are dashed!!!

Have you seen a recent picture of him? It's a bit of a stretch to even define an 87 yr old with "multiple heart attacks, lung cancer and a stroke" as being "alive", just because his heart was pumping.

Do you have any info indicating that he was institutionalized or even bed-ridden before he got the virus? I'm fairly certain that a person with brain function and a beating heart qualifies as "alive" and sick, ugly, feeble, & disabled are not synonyms for "dead".