Sorry.

*laughs* Yes, we're well aware of your obvious limitations.

You should read and reread your posts explaining over and over like a hamster on a wheel how you don't have to perform for anyone. Then read them one more time and pretend that it's CW explaining to you how he doesn't have to repost your bullshit either. It's already posted out there and falling flat on its face in silent repetition every single day. :)

^^^^^ Rational argument ^^^^^ is the end of the post containing the rational argument.

Look at any legislation from Obamacare to the Cares act and there are plenty of articles that point out the legislation is primarily benefiting the big money interests instead of ordinary citizens.

It's just as well... since y'all believe Money is inherently evil, best not to corrupt the "ordinary citizens" who ain't got any by giving them some.

All that information is there and can be easily found. I do not have to find it for you and keep posting it so you can ignore it.

That's the same as CW not having to republish your Bullshit Mountain no matter how many times you troll him to do it because you already have your own website where "all that information is there and can be easily found."

^^^^^ Rational argument ^^^^^

. It's called "rational thought." e can ignore you. on your own website.

it's all there on your own website.

If I remember correctly even CW said at one point that there was too much of that here.

Repeating your spamming is not backing up your argument. "plenty of articles", "The polls that say..." which articles? which polls?

All that information is there and can be easily found. I do not have to find it for you and keep posting it so you can ignore it.

Yet you seem to find the time to spam the same crap day in and day out. Interesting that...

You have posted that Biden is the same as Trump. Yet, starting in 1973, his first year in the senate, Biden championed complete public financing of political campaigns. Here [joebiden.com] is his plans for campaign finance reform. What is wrong about it and why is it the same as Trump?

Little more off-topic rambling.

Rambling is your thing.

I wonder if Joe, Kamala and Nancy, pushing their rental, mortgage, student loan etc., pmts moratoriums, realize that it is those pmts that underwrite damn near everything at the local gov't level - Cops, firefighters, teachers, utilities, etc.

I wonder if the so-called economics expert in Podunk, Idaho, knows that the "moratoriums" on "those payments" aren't exactly designed to stop those who can afford them from paying them but designed to stop penalties from accruing and evictions from occurring to those who can't. There isn't a moratorium on payments, Stucki, there's an extension of penalties accruing on the wonderful and saints among us who at the current time are unable to pay. We know they are saints and angels because having no Money means you are uncorrupted and pure... I mean, "adequate."

We may have only a very short time before that shit hits the proverbial fan.

Like I tried to explain to you already, Money isn't always a force for evil and can be a force for good and from keeping bad shit from happening to good fans.

And the information you are requesting is like asking for all the math that proves the earth travels around the Sun before you believe that the Earth travels around the Sun.

Examples of big money corruption to back up YOUR accusations is this hard for you? Really?

Sorry man (woman?) Don is absolutely correct about money, big, little or medium, constituting a basis for corruption and personal gain at the expense of the public.

More bullshit! Stucki, you have just basically claimed that all amounts of money regardless of size are inherently evil and a threat to society. Did you skip breakfast? Need to take a walk outside and get some fresh oxygen?

You can't be rational about denying that, specific examples or not.

What's not rational is y'all's assumption that any amount of money is inherently evil.

Re Biden's wealth, if he made money "from investing his salary", it was because members of congress all have inside info, not because they are astute financial gurus.

*laughs*

If he made it from speaking fees and/or book sales, that's no more than thinly disguised bribery (Think Hillary's speeches teaching Goldman-Sachs guys how to invest.)

Speaking fees and books sales are "bribery"!? And here I thought they were capitalism. Are you mental? Rhetorical question.

Some ex presidents make legitimate book income selling memoirs, but NOBODY buys books from congressmen simply because they enjoy a good read.

Because "congressmen" obviously aren't capable of good books; I mean, just look at Profiles in Courage as a prime example. Pffffffffffffft.

And how about the fact that his whole family tree is stinkin' rich, spouse, kids, in-laws and outlaws, scarcely a single one that ever having held a meaningful job in the private economy. Are they writing books and delivering stimulating speeches along with Joe?

Bullshit. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. So now it's not a "meaningful job" to serve your country in the armed forces? Your ignorance is showing.

Don Q's problem is NOT that he's wrong about corruption in the political/governmental system, his problem is that he's a hyper-idealist who prefers not to face the unrelenting, incurable reality of how the world works.

Both of your problems is that you whine incessantly about Money and how it's inherently evil and how anyone who has some of it must also be inherently evil because they got near some of it or gave a speech or (God forbid) wrote a book.

What do y'all have against capitalism?

If there is so much of it, you should be able to come up with examples quite easily.

This! :)

It is not a purity test. It is an adequacy test.

It is a Stick Measuring Contest. Don Harris is Small and therefore wants to feel Big by forcing everyone to be as Small as he is. Those with Big Sticks are therefore inherently labeled "Pure Evil" so that Don can feel better about his Small Stick.

Meanwhile, the speed limit is already set and most people don't drive a Stick and couldn't care less about Don's pathetic limitations.

Not reading any more of this Bullshit Mountain.

Once again you are talking nonsense.

In JFC's defense, it is impossible to avoid talking nonsense when discussing anything regarding Bucky Harris and Who's on first, What's on second, and I Don't Know is on third.

The 200 limit is not a law.

No shit. It's the same as forcing people to drive 20 mph in a 55 mph speed zone and claiming they're "Pure Evil" because they won't drive at a pace that is preferable to Grandma and Grandpa McTurtle.

It is a demand made by citizens that want the big money out of politics.

Liar. If it was an actual demand made by citizens, you wouldn't be here grifting to try to force another citizen to advertise it because there is no demand for it because there's already a legal limit.

Something citizens have a right to do- make demand of politicians and enforce that demand with their votes. Basic democracy.

Your Bullshit Mountain is replete with false equivalency. Voting for yourself doesn't constitute a "vote" in the vast majority of America, and a shit-ton of invalidated or disqualified ballots does not somehow magically constitute "votes"... quite the opposite, actually.

Are you against democracy or do not believe democracy can work?

False equivalency. Your Bullshit Mountain isn't democracy.

Of course my facts check out.

Do they? Then prove it!

Look at any legislation from Obamacare to the Cares act and there are plenty of articles that point out it the legislation is primary benefiting the big money interests with nothing but crumbs for ordinary citizens.

No, that is your job. You point out the big money interests. You do the research, it's your idea. Back it up.

If you haven't seen any of the polls that say 80% of citizens want the big money out of politics then you are just not paying attention or just not paying attention to things you don't want to hear because it conflicts with what you want to believe.

I have seen many polls that show quite a bit of different opinions depending on the wording of the poll. Which ones are you referring to?

I have delivered a way for citizens to work together to demand small donor candidate to get the big money out of politics.

How is that working for you? Down to 4 supporters from 10 and zero candidates over the course of six years. Not what I would consider "delivered". More of an excuse to spam comment sections while rarely leaving your comfy chair...

I have backed up all my statements here many times. You are just using that as an excuse to try to make me do it again as a means to avoid addressing the points I made.

No you haven't. You spam the same accusations over and over without EVER backing them up. When asked clarifying questions about One Demand, you dismiss them as stupid. Why would CW or anyone else write about your poorly thought out idea if you are too lazy to do the research and back up it up with a coherent argument backed up by verifiable facts?

The world is not against you. You are against you.

Unsurprisingly, you're talking nonsense. A speed limit is a law. That $200 limit is your absurd Big Money purity limit. The law says $2,800. I could buy 13 presidents. At $201, I get my Derby pie and no speeding citation.

But what about my alcoholic beverage?

You are right that I am not one of you and your "us" here.

No shit.

I actually make rational argument while your "us" does nothing but deflect and avoid rational argument.

Liar. I do more than deflect and avoid rational argument. For instance, you actually just claimed you "make rational argument" and then turned right around and lied that I "avoid rational argument." Well, you don't see me avoiding you, do you?

I am proud to not be one of your "us" because being one of your "us" is bad for our country, democracy and the comments section here.

Being "not one of us" means you don't get a vote to decide what is good/bad for us because you've pledged to vote only for yourself, and that makes you lots of things but definitely and most assuredly not one of us.

I don't have to provide proof of any specific corruption. There is so much of it that it is easy to spot.

If there is so much of it, then it shouldn't be too hard for you to post the list that proves your prattling.

80% of citizens, including a majority of Republikiller voters have consistently for years said they already know that big money corrupts our political process and they want the big money out.

So your "idea" to accomplish that is to herd the kittens while ignoring the lions and tigers and bears... oh, my.

I have not made any promises that I did not deliver.

Liar.

I only said that One Demand could work and that current trends show that it is likely to work so we should try it and find out.

Knock yourself out, skippy. No one not named Don Harris is impeding your trying it.

So even if we try it and it doesn't work I will not be breaking any promises.

We? Who is this "we"? You are not one of us.

Better run along and get busy. You can start by eliminating the voter disinformation on your website wherein you suggest that voters in America can perform a write-in vote for themselves when the vast majority of voters cannot do that.

That is the same as saying someone going 26 mph in a 25 mph school zone is only 1 mph over the speed limit so let's not worry about the speed limit at all.

No, it isn't "the same" because "partners are not the same. Cheech and Chong are partners. Abbott and Costello are partners. Penn and Teller are partners" and because Bullshit and "The Englishman Who Went up Benny Hill But Came Down a Bullshit Mountain" because hills can never be mountains except in movies based on real life.

So to recap: JFC and I are partners in "Pure Evil" and have both received the Death Harris penalty for contributing 1 mph over the speed limit... exactly like Sheldon Adelson.

I wonder if Joe, Kamala and Nancy, pushing their rental, mortgage, student loan etc., pmts moratoriums, realize that it is those pmts that underwrite damn near everything at the local gov't level - Cops, firefighters, teachers, utilities, etc.

We may have only a very short time before that shit hits the proverbial fan.

You said: Don is absolutely correct about money, big, little or medium, constituting a basis for corruption and personal gain at the expense of the public.

His One Demand is all about campaign donations and nothing else.

Who got paid, and what did they get? Nebulous accusations of government and this is just how it works, without back up is no better than Don Q. And at an estimated wealth of $9 million, half of which is real estate, Joe Biden is far from "stinkin' rich"...

I don't recall saying or even implying, that to be the case.

How does a $2,800 campaign donation corrupt a politician?

I already suggested DAnon. He could post as the Wizard of OD, but if he wants to pick up the disillusioned Qnuts, he'll need to repackage. They may be gullible, but they need more than the same repetitive assertions over and over. Maybe the Lizard People are buying little kids for $2,800 and selling them to Iran.

Sorry man (woman?) Don is absolutely correct about money, big, little or medium, constituting a basis for corruption and personal gain at the expense of the public. You can't be rational about denying that, specific examples or not.

Re Biden's wealth, if he made money "from investing his salary", it was because members of congress all have inside info, not because they are astute financial gurus. If he made it from speaking fees and/or book sales, that's no more than thinly disguised bribery (Think Hillary's speeches teaching Goldman-Sachs guys how to invest.) Some ex presidents make legitimate book income selling memoirs, but NOBODY buys books from congressmen simply because they enjoy a good read.

And how about the fact that his whole family tree is stinkin' rich, spouse, kids, in-laws and outlaws, scarcely a single one that ever having held a meaningful job in the private economy. Are they writing books and delivering stimulating speeches along with Joe?

Don Q's problem is NOT that he's wrong about corruption in the political/governmental system, his problem is that he's a hyper-idealist who prefers not to face the unrelenting, incurable reality of how the world works.

Hope that qualifies as my "put-up"!

More accusations without providing validity? Maybe we should refer to you as Don Q. You can peddle your "opinion" on 4chan. Better chance of it being taken up there than in the land of "reality based political commentary"...

Please point out the empty rhetoric...

I don't have to provide proof of any specific corruption. There is so much of it that it is easy to spot.

If there is so much of it, you should be able to come up with examples quite easily.

80% of citizens, including a majority of Republikiller voters have consistently for years said they already know that big money corrupts our political process and they want the big money out.

Can you back this up? Show real polls? Anything?

This is the problem, we just came out of four years of hell. Where truth and facts were under constant attack. Trumpism is a methodology more than an ideology and just because it has come from mostly the right the last hundred years or so does not mean it can't come from the left. If we are to prevent it in the future, fact checking the left is as important as fact checking the right. And your "facts" just don't check out.

The Qanon crap was also opinions pawned off as real. How are you different? In the end you do need to back up your shit! You besmirch a good man because of an opinion. All through the campaign Biden's wealth was attacked by the right. Not much came of it. His wealth mostly came from investing his salary, speaking engagements and book deals. I see no "big money" in his wealth. Prove me wrong. Put up or shut up.

I have not made any promises that I did not deliver.

Don, you have not delivered anything. But go on and hide behind semantics...

The 200 limit is not a law. It is a demand made by citizens that want the big money out of politics.

Nonsense. It is an absurd purity limit set by you that will never ever be adopted.

Are you against democracy or do not believe democracy can work?

Oh look! A false choice. It turns out that you actually do know how that works as opposed to the actual choices that you repetitively assert are false.

Democracy works just fine with the existing $2,800 campaign donation limit. Your nonsense does not even begin to address Big Money (which is not donated to campaigns). Big Money would laugh at your purity test and bury your candidate if you ever recruited one (which you won't).

That is the same as saying someone going 26 mph in a 25 mph school zone is only 1 mph over the speed limit so let's not worry about the speed limit at all.

Unsurprisingly, you're talking nonsense. A speed limit is a law. That $200 limit is your absurd Big Money purity limit. The law says $2,800. I could buy 13 presidents. At $201, I get my Derby pie and no speeding citation.

@Dan,
Show some love/hate for Andrew Johnson. What, a hundred years of Jim crow isn't enough to make your list?

I don't think Johnson earned a disproportionate share of the blame. Jim Crow got going in earnest under Rutherfraud B. Hayes et seq. During the Johnson administration, Reconstruction was underway, enforced by federal troops.

I don't want the Big Money politicians to give me something after I give them my vote for nothing.

So you're saying you're a cheap date?

I want the Derby pie.

For nothing? Pony up, pal.

Of course we Big Money donors want the pie.

I almost always usually want the pie.

Who doesn't want the pie?

It's just right this second, I don't think I actually want the pie, but I could definitely go for something to wet my whistle.

I donated $201. I own Big Money Joe. Make mine Derby pie.

Hold your horses, pal. I gave him $201.99, and I hereby demand a mint julep. ;)

New day, same failed attempt to pass off moose poop as caviar.

Nice of you to admit that and own it, Average Don. They say that admitting your problem is the first step to recovery.

This is not the day we all have been waiting for.

You're not one of us.

And now it's time to play a quick game of:
If We Saw Patterns In Things... Wednesdays in January 2021

January 6..... Insurrection
January 13.... Impeachment
January 20.... Inauguration

Bonus Point Opportunity:

January 27....

Will it be:

A. Inoculation
B. Immigration
C. Indictment
D. Infrastructure

The answer is D because every day is Infrastructure Week.

It seems like years since it's been clear.

Little darling, I feel that ice is slowly melting. :)

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Donald Trump actually did campaign on optimism, but only during his first run. He borrowed the language of populism and painted a rather rosy worldview for the forgotten blue-collar Midwestern worker, back in 2016.
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But Trump's second campaign was nothing short of raw and unapologetic fearmongering.
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First of its kind, I think. Really good. Thank you for that.

“Let this be a wake-up call for QAnon followers and normies,” one post read just ahead of the inauguration. “No one is coming to save you. No one man can defeat this evil marxist machine.”

It seems the time has passed for The Storm.

Look in the mirror...

The only people Biden is safe for is the big money interests.

Which big money interests? Can you name a few? Can you describe how Biden will help them?

Even better: Biden just signed 17 executive orders. Please, do tell how all of these are related to big money interests? How is business profiting at the expense of the common man? If your ongoing name calling and extreme views as to the corruption of Biden is correct then you should be able to point out who is getting what with most if not all of the 17 orders.

As 2nd-Assistant Commisar for Reeducation and Public Outreach, I think we should throw open the list to the public to stir enthusiasm. Nominate your favorites! Vote early and often!

In the spirit of the McLaughlin Awards we could call it the Catlin Jenner Awards. I'm told I have potential to rise in the Party.

Elizabeth, "safest" in that Joe checked two yuge boxes,
1- competent
2- decent

That's nothing but good, says the Bernie Bro. It doesn't matter what Don or you or I think, Joe's going to be Joe.

andygaus - as a cannibal pedophile myself we are truly fellow members of an oppressed minority*snort*

Like cigarette smokers and stuff.

And as a pedophile cannibal myself, I must say I'm vastly relieved. Whew, that was close!

I know, right!? The lizard people and I were having a good laugh about this last week at a meeting in the basement of Comet Ping Pong when JFK, Jr. bolted down the stairwell and caught us in flagrante delicto just as we'd begun ingurgitation. The years have not been kind to "John John," no doubt necessitating his decision to remain a behind-the-scenes crimefighter versus joining the ticket as Trump's vice presidential candidate, but I digress.

Heh. The only "storm" today was the thousands of MAGA and QAnon tiny tears that filled the air -- snowflakes -- just before the sun arose. :)

You must have simply forgotten about Trump prattling on and on ad nauseam about his eminent "full and complete" health care plan being revealed within "a very short period of time" and/or also frequently referred to as "two weeks"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4STwwbRRURI

Wait, what!? I will give you "the safest" since I think I see what your meaning is there, but Bernie Sanders was hardly an "unknown" and was clearly on track to win the nomination if the majority of the Party hadn't united behind Joe Biden after his decisive win in South Carolina.

Bernie was a known known... hence the resultant rallying behind Biden. :)

Just way too old, wouldn't you think, plus health issues, gaffe-itis, and all the related things incident to being 'over the hill'. At my age, you're more cognizant of the problems of aging.

Liz, on [2], I think Chris was remembering that the Dems put up an extremely diverse and interesting field of potential candidates in the primaries, who tempted a lot of their voters to take a chance on beating and replacing Trump with [fill in the blank, the first ____ president].

But Biden was in fact the safest, not least because of his unmatched experience as longtime senator, 8-year VP, virtually scandal-free career, and exquisite skill at skating between the two wings of his party. His downside, to me, is his advanced age, but that was the price of doing business this year.

She was exquisite, in every imaginable sense of the word - THE highlight of the day for me!

Whenever I'm feelin' down, I listen to one of my PRiSM cds. And, now, there is another burst of inspiration to listen to.

Barring any health issues, why do you suppose Biden won't run again?

Safest? I dunno but, that has always rubbed me the wrong way. Not sure why. Maybe because it implies a kind of mediocrity. Maybe because it sounds like the only reason Biden was chosen was because he was a known quantity and not because of his expertise on any number of critical issues.

In any case, I think the American people decided on the best, the only candidate who they thought could beat Trump. And, I agree with their wisdom. If best = safest, then I guess they went with the safest choice.

Safe is good, right?