For someone that cannot understand basic concepts you are not to be considered intelligent.

Average Don thinks I'm stupid and can't understand his simple little political scheme of failure. You can barely write an intelligent sentence, but for some reason I cannot fathom, you seem to think you're bullshit is hard. You can rest easy in the knowledge that you're not shit, and you're idea isn't either. It's an easy concept. We all get it, Average Don, it's just dumber than a barrel of hair.

I'll tell it to you like you told EM: "I am not concerned" when a self-proclaimed person of your stature thinks I'm unintelligent because I have all those things you list in your bio that you're lacking. So shove it up your backside until it permeates that wee small cranium in your head located there: Your political failure isn't complicated.

Unless you are purposely pretending not to understand to go along with your lies about anything I am doing being illegal.

Your shit is illegal in multiple jurisdictions. You plan on spending your whole life uneducated about your bullshit spew?

Educate yourself:

Bad actors use various methods to spread disinformation about voting, such as social media platforms, texting, or peer-to-peer messaging applications on smartphones. They may provide misleading information about the time, manner, or place of voting. This can include inaccurate election dates or false claims about voting qualifications or methods, such as false information suggesting that one may vote by text, which is not allowed in any jurisdiction.

https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-scams-and-crimes/election-crimes-and-security

Your shit asks people to pledge to vote via the manner of a write-in vote, which is not available to 90% of the country and will not be a legally cast vote. This is voter misinformation suggesting people should vote in a manner not available to them. It is no different than asking people to pledge to vote via text, which is also a manner of voting not available to 100% of the country. Clue in.

That, of course makes you the troll.

I am not concerned with your opinion of me.

And it explains your need to lash out at others that are clearly smarter than you are whether you are pretending not to understand basic concepts or not.

You too stupid to understand the written law? Nevertheless, ignorance of the law makes your shit no less illegal. There's also ample evidence archived on this blog that you've been notified your voter misinformation is illegal.

The self-described uneducated Average Don who doesn't have a clue that his shit is illegal thinks he's smart. *laughs*

Clue in and stop peddling and advertising the voter misinformation that people can vote via writing in their own name when it's not a legally valid vote and won't be counted in 90% of the country. It's no different than some moron telling someone they can vote via text when no one can.

Class for morons dismissed.

For someone that cannot understand basic concepts you are not to be considered intelligent.

Average Don thinks I'm stupid and can't understand his simple little political scheme of failure. You can barely write an intelligent sentence, but for some reason I cannot fathom, you seem to think you're bullshit is hard. You can rest easy in the knowledge that you're not shit, and you're idea isn't either. It's an easy concept. We all get it, Average Don, it's just dumber than a barrel of hair.

I'll tell it to you like you told EM: "I am not concerned" when a self-proclaimed person of your stature thinks I'm unintelligent because I have all those things you list in your bio that you're lacking. So shove up your backside until it permeates your ass for a brain: Your political failure isn't complicated.

Unless you are purposely pretending not to understand to go along with your lies about anything I am doing being illegal.

Your sentence goes nowhere. Your shit is illegal in multiple jurisdictions. You going to spend your whole life uneducated about your bullshit spew?

Educate yourself:

Bad actors use various methods to spread disinformation about voting, such as social media platforms, texting, or peer-to-peer messaging applications on smartphones. They may provide misleading information about the time, manner, or place of voting. This can include inaccurate election dates or false claims about voting qualifications or methods, such as false information suggesting that one may vote by text, which is not allowed in any jurisdiction.

https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-scams-and-crimes/election-crimes-and-security

Your shit asks people to pledge to vote via the manner f a write-in vote, which is not available to 90% of the country and will not be a legally cast vote. This is voter misinformation suggesting people should vote in a manner not available to them. It is no different than asking people to pledge to vote via text, which is not available to 100% of people. It's illegal. Clue in.

https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-scams-and-crimes/election-crimes-and-security

That, of course makes you the troll.

I am not concerned with your opinion of me.

And it explains your need to lash out at others that are clearly smarter than you are whether you are pretending not to understand basic concepts or not.

The self-described uneducated Average Don who doesn't have a clue that his shit is illegal thinks he's smart. *laughs*

Your shit is illegal. Clue in.

I believe you have that backwards. The Qnuts are the majority.

Having said that, you don't want to have too many political parties at the national level. Take my Canadian word for it. Ahem.

The Republican party is now cleaved in two, between the likes of Senator Cruz on the one hand, and Senator Romney on the other. I do not see how the two can reconcile and stay in the same party for the long term. We may now see 3 political parties emerge in the U.S. 1) Democrats 2) Conservative 3) Trumpism

I agree. I don't think the current Republican party survives and I do think your breakdown is very plausible.

"I wonder if any of the 74 million Americans who voted to re-elect Trump have any regrets in the wake of what happed at the Capitol yesterday."

"If they can reject those who put party and leader over country, then we may see, once again, a strong two-party system emerge and, consequently, a strong America, able to truly lead the free world."

Sadly I would not hold my breath and count on it Elizabeth. At least in those terms. 60 percent of the Republican party has followed Trump down the rabbit hole, hook, line and sinker. The Republican party is now cleaved in two, between the likes of Senator Cruz on the one hand, and Senator Romney on the other. I do not see how the two can reconcile and stay in the same party for the long term. We may now see 3 political parties emerge in the U.S. 1) Democrats 2) Conservative 3) Trumpism

"To the perps, it would be better than nothing. In addition, I would not expect certain states to take any action against the criminals (TX & FL come to mind)."

The district attorneys of both Northern Ohio and Eastern Kentucky have already said they will both actively prosecute anyone they can find who travelled from their areas to D.C. and took place in the riot. I hope other DAs will follow suit.

"Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!" (sic)

I laughed aloud.

LL&P

"looks like after the fracas most senators withdrew their protests over most states. after all was said and done, the only two protests that had a senator sign on were pennsylvania and arizona, which were voted down 93-7 and 94-6 respectively in the senate. not sure about the numbers in the house."

In the HOUSE, 121 and 138 Republicans respectively, voted to overturn the results of a democratic election. We have a serious problem when 60 percent of the Republican party in the House votes in favor of insurrection. Remember, these votes happened AFTER the riot and occupation.

Why don't you stop the namby pamby, beat-around-the-bush, mealy-mouth stuff and just come right out and tell the guy you don't really like him?

I don't like trolls. I can tolerate intelligent trolls. He's not one of them. You are.

Satisfied?

Your assertions have been addressed many times in descriptions of how One Demand works and the purpose of the write in votes.

Your bullshit has been addressed many times in descriptions too. Keep posting your repetitive shit, and I'll keep responding why it's bullshit and voter misinformation. It's bullshit because write-in votes are not possible in the vast majority of states and therefore irrelevant. If 90% of the country can't make a write-in vote because states don't allow it, then the "purpose of the write in votes" is nonexistent because the write-in votes aren't legal and aren't available. Thus, your shit is voter misinformation and people cannot pledge to do something not allowed by law in their respective states.

Thus your comment shows your inability to grasp basic concepts, a purposeful misinterpretation to fit an argument you want to make or is just a reset question.

Your shit ain't rocket science, Average Don. It's also not rocket science that the vast majority of states do not allow write-in votes. Thus your effing demand isn't possible and is voter misinformation in the majority of states. I cannot fathom why you can't seem to grasp that basic concept... oh, wait... yes, I can, you're an admitted effing moron who wants to reinvent democracy by breaking it so he can fix it. You think people writing in their own names -- when 90% of the country can't do that -- is the way to accomplish it.

So to recap: Everyone here understands your simple concept and why it won't work. In conclusion, pie works and should be discussed more. I want an entire effing article here devoted to effing pie and I will not stop whining like an effing troll until I get a pie article. Pie is misunderstood, especially by you personally. Pie. Pie. Pie. Effing Pie. With whipped effing cream. *snap* :)

Why don't you stop the namby pamby, beat-around-the-bush, mealy-mouth stuff and just come right out and tell the guy you don't really like him?

My purpose here is to give my opinion.

And to advertise and recruit people to pledge to de facto disenfranchise themselves via voting for themselves, which is not even possible in the vast majority of states. Your bullshit is voting misinformation and is illegal in multiple jurisdictions.

And in my opinion it is proper to disparage politicians from any party or no party that are not working for ordinary citizens but are instead working for the big money interests.

Most of what you do here is bitch about "both sides" and advertise your misinformation.

Is this the same Liz that just recently wanted more diverse opinions and civil debate that is now saying get lost and spouting nonsense bordering on conspiracy theory territory by questioning my sincerity?

Your repetitive opinion and advertisements aren't "diverse." It's the same bullshit ad nauseam.

I do not want to burn everything down.

Semantics. You want to advertise your movement wherein voters are encouraged to disenfranchise by voting for themselves and thus ensure that fewer people participate in choosing their own representatives. Then you claim more people would vote if a Party would put up better candidates. Well, the candidates announce their intention to run, and the people choose from the available candidates unless they're dumb enough to vote for themselves and de facto disenfranchise. This discourages participation in democracy which you claim to care about.

I do however want to throw a monkey wrench into the Deathocratic and Republikiller machine and break it because it doesn't work for ordinary citizens and as long as it keeps working for them it will never get fixed.

Semantics! In your admittedly uneducated state of ordinary citizenship, what exactly do you think JFC meant by "burn it down" so you can fix your way?

Thanks for the admission, you effing illiterate moron.

I am not concerned when someone that beleives Biden is wonderful thinks that I am not sincere.

You are a political neophyte spreading misinformation based on your admitted ignorance.

Typical believing what you need to believe to rationalize your delusions.

Check your mirror, Average Don. When you repeatedly keep lumping everyone who doesn't meet your own invented definitions into the same category, you are the epitome of that description.

Regarding [98] above. Just to clarify: I know you don't think Trump gives two shits about Americans. That was meant to be a "royal you." I would wager you know that too.

Nevertheless: Apologies.

I agree that it really wasn't insurrection.

It was a planned and executed violent uprising against the Congress of the United States. That's the very definition of insurrection.

The fabricating right-wing echo propaganda chamber is now trying to spin it as "antifa" while the perpetrators are being identified and attempting to scrub their social media accounts. It will not work. The FBI is accepting tips and digital media depicting rioting and violence in the U.S. Capitol Building and surrounding area.

Identified Perpetrators:

Ashli E. Babbitt, QAnon follower, now deceased
Richard “Bigo” Barnett, White supremacist Trump supporter
Tim Gionet, well-known White supremacist activist #Baked Alaska
Jake Angeli, QAnon Shaman
Nick Ochs, founder of Proud Boys Hawaii

There are more.

It was a spasm of violence in the waning days of a death cult.

It wasn't a spasm. These QAnon nut jobs are going nowhere unless it's to prison.

It's a shame that their death wish wasn't granted.

Four of them are now deceased.

They'll likely try again.

Some of them were in Charlottesville... so, yes, the QAnon nuts and White supremacists are going nowhere. Many of them are United States citizens being lied to and exploited by right-wing propaganda media and a con artist who claims to "love" them. You think Trump gives two shits about Americans? Him, his lawyer, and his son among others incited these people to attack the Congress for fulfilling their constitutional oaths and doing their jobs.

Normally, the thing that follows the 2nd thought would be the 3rd thought, but perhaps that's only for folks on the right

BTW - At the orange one's Klan rally yesterday, they played Elton John's Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting before the rampage began.

I think his "purpose" goes something like this: I want to burn everything down. If things get bad enough, maybe I'll get what I want.

Perfectly stated... and what he claims to want doesn't match his pathetic attempt at political activism.

Trumpanzee "purpose": I want to burn everything down. If things get bad enough, the people I hate will hurt more than I will.

Not a big difference. Birds of a feather.

Exactly.

I just don't have time for anymore. :)

I still vote, recycle, donate to charities, etc but I don't expect any of it to make much difference. Old habits die hard.

I rarely even go Biden's fb page and have only engaged there with people on how to shut down a virus. :)

Okay, okay, I am going to need that! Come, one and all, or not.

If crisp political savvy is not defined in that way then crisp political savvy is not relevant.

How fortunate for the entire known world that "Average" Don Harris doesn't decide which definitions are relevant.

The reason Trump is in the position he is in now and has been able to put us in the position we are in now is because the Deathocrats have continued to offer the false alternatives such as Obama, Hillary and Biden.

The people choose their representatives by voting. Generally, the candidate with the majority of votes wins the nomination. If you don't like any of the choices of the majority, that's your problem. Your advertisements here for your failed attempt at political activism requires that people pledge to vote for themselves; this idiotic lunacy will not and could never produce a candidate with a majority of voters because in almost every political position in America, the candidate with the majority of voters wins the nomination or political position. Your pledge could never produce a candidate. As I've stated many times, if every other citizen in Texas fell under the spell of your backwards bullshit, I'd be the citizen choosing the leaders while all the morons taking your pledge would have their "votes" uncounted unless millions of those morons paid a fee and collected multiple thousands of signatures to have their name put on ballots all across Texas. Those are the rules of the State of Texas.

"You reap what you sow."

Exactly. And sowing pledges that demand one vote cast for yourself will never produce a candidate with a majority of votes. It'll produce a smaller electorate choosing our leaders, and that ain't the definition of democracy.

democracy

noun

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

This is the danger in allowing journalists — who we count on to report the facts and truth to us — to spin their stories into articles that will make their readers salivate but that have almost no basis in reality. This is the danger in allowing “entertainers” to pass themselves off as “journalists”. This is the danger of living in a society that grants politicians and people in power the right to lie to us without fear of being culpable for the damages those lies caused.

We do not allow corporations to make ludicrous claims on the packages of food that we purchase because we recognize the damage that allowing such “free speech” can cause. So why do we allow candidates to make blatantly false claims in their packaging (read: ads and commercials)? Do we not see how much damage could result from such false advertising by now?

If a show like Hannity or the Rachel Maddow Show are stating things that they know are not factually true, then make them place a warning label before and after every commercial break informing the viewer that what they are viewing contains opinions, and should not be taken as factual. You can have opinion shows that put out completely factual content, and those warnings would not need to be used on those episodes.

We are at a place that misinformation has almost cost us this democracy. We MUST address it before it can do us in.

The only reason I am here on an American political blog is that I still believe in the promise of America, in the ideals of American democracy, and that this old world of ours is in desperate need of the kind of global leadership that only the America I love is capable of delivering.

There, I said it.

Republicans, generally speaking, did very well in the 2020 elections, save for the presidential spot and a few US senate seats. If they can reject those who put party and leader over country, then we may see, once again, a strong two-party system emerge and, consequently, a strong America, able to truly lead the free world.

What I witnessed yesterday made me experience a level of disappointment and disbelief that I had only felt one other time in my nearly 50 years — the ATF raid on the Branch Davidian's compound in Waco, Texas. As I watched the flames engulf the buildings where young men, woman, children and infants had barricaded themselves in, I cried and cried wondering “WHY?!?!” There was no reason for it to go to such extremes...for so much damage to occur because people had been fooled into believing the lies of a few!

I think 'jacquerie' or 'Putch' might be more adroitly used to describe yesterday's debacle...

48...crisp; fresh, new...facetious.

LL&P

I have no doubt that some states will not cooperate...but some will. Go after the biggest fish that look vulnerable, imprison as many as possible, bankrupt others with legal fees. The goal is to make insurrection a very risky prospect that doesn’t look like a good career choice. The worst danger to our Republic is to give insurrectionists a pass. Trump and his immediate adult family should feel hounded to their graves.

Trumpanzee "purpose": I want to burn everything down. If things get bad enough, the people I hate will hurt more than I will.

Not a big difference. Birds of a feather.

"If it is defined as understanding the dynamics of our political system and how the Deathocrats and Republicans manipulate the system ..."

Was that just a little slip-up, Don? Or was it, perhaps, an indication of something more?

To the perps, it would be better than nothing. In addition, I would not expect certain states to take any action against the criminals (TX & FL come to mind).

I don't think this is a get out of jail free card. Crossing a state line to commit a crime is a state crime as well as a Federal crime. Trump could pardon the Federal Offense, but not the State Offense.

There are reports that the police in D.C. (not necessarily D.C. police) were very chummy with the mob...compared to earlier Black Lives Matter. Some of this may have been tactical necessity, but if it was more like a free pass for white folk, then some management heads have to roll...to encourage the others.

15 straight hrs of TV....raster pattern dreams are the worst.

An awful lot of chuckle heads are waking up to the realization that their insurrection antics and their faces are preserved on video. Identification and prosecution should be fairly easy in an age of social media and facial recognition software.

Correction; 'It' surely wasn't his crisp political savvy...

:/

LL&P

And now for something completely different...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/lindsey-graham-says-enough-is-enough-on-trump-bid-to-overturn-the-election-count-me-out/ar-BB1cxtGy?ocid=msedgntp

LL&P

Here's how it will go.

Trump first will begin to claim the far-left was sprinkled in the crowd and were the ones who caused the worst scene.

The right-wing media will spend a few days scratching their arses and interviewing themselves wondering openly, "how did it come to this".

The GOP will suddenly realize that Trump was their Petard and that the people they knobshined Trump for just hoisted them.

I've never been sent to Coventry by Twitter, have you?
I gather when you go to log on, instead of a little bird and the name Twitter, you see a Buzzard and the word 'Twatter'...

You've been named.

LL&P

The sinking ship is deserting the rat, if I may be permitted some black humor to counteract the horror.

At 3:45 AM, in DC.

What a day. I'm going to go get some sleep, have been watching TV news for almost 15 hours straight...

-CW

Mental illness IS a freaking DISABILITY.

Am I the only one who thinks this has been his escape plan all along? Trump told us if Biden won, he’d leave the country out of embarrassment — but more realistically out of fear of being arrested for his crimes. Trump needed a reason for Pence to take over the presidency without it making Trump look like he was just quitting like a wuss. Trump’s turning on Pence today and then Trump’s supporters attempt to take the government hostage... and no, I am not being dramatic. I mean that there were folks there filmed with “binding strips” on them that are used like handcuffs to secure hostages. They were inside the government buildings with the tools used to hold people hostage.

Pence “turns” on Trump and takes over the Presidency. Then he pardons Trump (who we will later discover had pardoned Pence prior to his departure) for anything and everything he has ever done in his life!

It sounds crazy... but Trump is a master at covering his own ass.

Is it too soon to start calling them the FA party, or perhaps ATHO scumbags.

All I know based off of his imposed rules for the comments section on another persons forum is "silence gives ascent".

And he has been silent on alot of the things his team has done wrong....

Are you sure about that?

regardless of the "original intent" of the 25th amendment, it would solve the problem of having a president in office who mortally endangers the nation by being there for the last two weeks of his term.

JL

Seriously?

Casablanca is one of my favourite movies. I just watched it the other night, in fact. Heh.

Do you think meritless is the same as meaningless? Did you read [7]?

You know what? Don't answer - there are more important things going on at the moment. ;)

Might be good time to give the 25th Amendment a trial run.

I don't think so. Trump is unfit and unworthy, not disabled. He's doing exactly what he was elected to do: strive for ratings for himself (in the Nielsen sense, not the Gallup sense) at the expense of the country. The 25th is intended for situations where a president is in a coma or some such, not for ones where the cabinet simply makes a political calculation to transfer their loyalty to the veep.

It sounds as though you may have missed the distinction in [3] between merely "shocked" and "shocked, shocked". The latter is a reference to Casablanca, representing Captain Renault's attitude toward the fact that gambling was going on, as he was being handed his winnings. In other words, [3] had already described Josh Hawley's objection as meaningless.

That sums up today's GOP right there.

It’s not so much they don’t like Trumpism, it’s just they can’t sell it anymore.

They're starting to call him out:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/trump-capitol-impeachment-25-amendment/index.html

I reiterate my sentiment that GOP politicians generally tend to be moved only by things that affect them personally. Is the president and angry mob you stoked and enabled turning on you? Better stop the conspiracy bullshit before it kills you.

The legal definition is "aiding and abetting," and the GOP has been stoking that fire and enabling the bullshit for decades.

Meanwhile, Trump is where? And plotting what next?

25th Amendment time. They were all warned and did nothing.

I'll bet he shat them too.

Trump insulted his wife's looks, accused his father of being involved in the assassination of JFK, among other conspiracy theory bullshit Trump spews regularly, and Rafael responded by bending over... which was easy due to the fact he no longer has a spinal column.

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1346952339886923786

Trump invites these hooligans to town, satiates them with his cock-and-bull election gobshitery, whips up the crowd, exits stage arsehole, then the pitchfork and brazier mob entrap congress in the senate-house and he remains silent while the mob tears up the capital building...

Am I missing anything, oh, and the Turkish government have advised their citizens in the US to avoid crowds and remain indoors?

The 'Deplorables' have earned their name.

Trump should be rohipnolled, shaved butt naked, swaddled, and airdropped into Tehran, let the fucking Iranians have him.

remain safe

LL&P

The End is near.