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	<title>Comments on: Friday Talking Points -- Is It January 20th Yet?</title>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173039</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>decent is good. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>decent is good. :)</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 08:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@liz,

as of right now i think cardona is a decent choice. he&#039;s what i would expect from biden, somebody competent who is going to use soft power and isn&#039;t going to be a firebrand for any one issue. 

would i prefer someone a little less conciliatory to standardized testing and predatory charter organizations? sure. but he&#039;s also in favor of bilingual education and multicultural curriculum, which is good news. also, universal pre-k across the country would be huge if it&#039;s achieved.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@liz,</p>
<p>as of right now i think cardona is a decent choice. he's what i would expect from biden, somebody competent who is going to use soft power and isn't going to be a firebrand for any one issue. </p>
<p>would i prefer someone a little less conciliatory to standardized testing and predatory charter organizations? sure. but he's also in favor of bilingual education and multicultural curriculum, which is good news. also, universal pre-k across the country would be huge if it's achieved.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173034</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua,

What do you think about Biden&#039;s choice for Secretary of Education. I know it wasn&#039;t who you had advocated for but maybe this is a good choice, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua,</p>
<p>What do you think about Biden's choice for Secretary of Education. I know it wasn't who you had advocated for but maybe this is a good choice, too?</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173033</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have noticed that most people who have a PhD make much less of it than people who don’t.  Academia is small world, if you have the credential, you know dozens and dozens  of people who share the same.  It’s just another specialized line of work with an  apprenticeship. Few rockstars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed that most people who have a PhD make much less of it than people who don’t.  Academia is small world, if you have the credential, you know dozens and dozens  of people who share the same.  It’s just another specialized line of work with an  apprenticeship. Few rockstars.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173029</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 23:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;all want to know what&#039;s annoying as hell? 

You&#039;re playing &quot;catchup&quot; on reading columns and taking in all the comments, and then BAM... Stucki chimes in and types what you&#039;re thinking, causing you to question your mental fitness and physical well being. 

Should I take a drink or take my temperature? Both. 

I see kitties are next... and none too soon. I&#039;m the farthest behind, amn&#039;t I? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y'all want to know what's annoying as hell? </p>
<p>You're playing "catchup" on reading columns and taking in all the comments, and then BAM... Stucki chimes in and types what you're thinking, causing you to question your mental fitness and physical well being. </p>
<p>Should I take a drink or take my temperature? Both. </p>
<p>I see kitties are next... and none too soon. I'm the farthest behind, amn't I? :)</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173028</link>
		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[8] Chris Weigant wrote:
 
&quot;As someone pointed out, would he have written that about Dr. Henry Kissinger? I seriously doubt it, personally...&quot;

Someone else pointed out would he have said the same thing about Dr. Marin Luther King JR. also? I doubt that either.

I think he saw Dr. Biden as a target only as a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[8] Chris Weigant wrote:</p>
<p>"As someone pointed out, would he have written that about Dr. Henry Kissinger? I seriously doubt it, personally..."</p>
<p>Someone else pointed out would he have said the same thing about Dr. Marin Luther King JR. also? I doubt that either.</p>
<p>I think he saw Dr. Biden as a target only as a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173027</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 17:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Department of Scratch Trump and You Find a close Connection to Putin:

Academic bottom feeder Paul Alexander was hired by by lobbyist Michael Caputo,  as assistant secretary of public affairs in the Department of Health and Human Services. 

Caputo moved to Russia in 1994 and was advisor to Boris Yeltsin. By the year 2000 Alexander was working for the firm Gazprom Media to polish the image of Vladimir Putin. 

Does anybody else find this unsettling? Putin seems to have more clout in the USA than say, Puerto Rico.  Enjoy it while it lasts Vlad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Department of Scratch Trump and You Find a close Connection to Putin:</p>
<p>Academic bottom feeder Paul Alexander was hired by by lobbyist Michael Caputo,  as assistant secretary of public affairs in the Department of Health and Human Services. </p>
<p>Caputo moved to Russia in 1994 and was advisor to Boris Yeltsin. By the year 2000 Alexander was working for the firm Gazprom Media to polish the image of Vladimir Putin. </p>
<p>Does anybody else find this unsettling? Putin seems to have more clout in the USA than say, Puerto Rico.  Enjoy it while it lasts Vlad.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ts,

it&#039;s okay to kill people, just not fetuses.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ts,</p>
<p>it's okay to kill people, just not fetuses.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173025</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t deliberately engineered &quot;herd immunity&quot; an obvious form of socialized medicine? I thought the political evolutionary chain of: Republicans&gt;Tea Party&gt;Trump was strongly, and I do mean strongly,against socialized ANYTHING.  Excepting of course school prayer and The Star Spangled Banner, which are, for practical purposes, mandatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn't deliberately engineered "herd immunity" an obvious form of socialized medicine? I thought the political evolutionary chain of: Republicans&gt;Tea Party&gt;Trump was strongly, and I do mean strongly,against socialized ANYTHING.  Excepting of course school prayer and The Star Spangled Banner, which are, for practical purposes, mandatory.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173024</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@don,

here&#039;s a little help with that prior comment you made:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/21/joe-biden-tom-vilsack-agriculture-secretary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@don,</p>
<p>here's a little help with that prior comment you made:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/21/joe-biden-tom-vilsack-agriculture-secretary" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/21/joe-biden-tom-vilsack-agriculture-secretary</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173023</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 04:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll end my portion of the evening with this Santana Supernatural concert, including Smooth w/ Rob Thomas ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYFHuqGUPg&amp;list=PL4k1-gMOXgb76GqKxvzsjaJ_22SBpu4iV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll end my portion of the evening with this Santana Supernatural concert, including Smooth w/ Rob Thomas ...</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYFHuqGUPg&amp;list=PL4k1-gMOXgb76GqKxvzsjaJ_22SBpu4iV" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYFHuqGUPg&amp;list=PL4k1-gMOXgb76GqKxvzsjaJ_22SBpu4iV</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173022</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 03:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so raise your hand if you played air drums during that Gil Moore drum solo! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so raise your hand if you played air drums during that Gil Moore drum solo! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173021</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 02:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, what the heck, since I&#039;m in the mood for some power ballads, here&#039;s TRIUMPH from 1987 in Halifax ... a full concert ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg32P-huFA4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, what the heck, since I'm in the mood for some power ballads, here's TRIUMPH from 1987 in Halifax ... a full concert ...</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg32P-huFA4" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg32P-huFA4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173020</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 00:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let&#039;s start this &lt;b&gt;CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party&lt;/b&gt; with a Full Concert, more or less, featuring Rik Emmett (formerly of the great Canadian classic rock band, TRIUMPH ...

A lot of rock&#039;n roll with some blues thrown in for good measure. Hey, let&#039;s make the theme for tonight Full Concerts! I&#039;m kidding. I&#039;ll be happy enough if somebody shows up. Heh.

Anyways, enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm5AgvAmWAI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let's start this <b>CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party</b> with a Full Concert, more or less, featuring Rik Emmett (formerly of the great Canadian classic rock band, TRIUMPH ...</p>
<p>A lot of rock'n roll with some blues thrown in for good measure. Hey, let's make the theme for tonight Full Concerts! I'm kidding. I'll be happy enough if somebody shows up. Heh.</p>
<p>Anyways, enjoy!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm5AgvAmWAI" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm5AgvAmWAI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173018</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2020 14:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been following the covid stimulus bill but I&#039;m wondering about the $600 cheques that will be sent out to people ... is this a per week amount?

Where I sit, we received $2000 per month when we were in lock down and out of work ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven't been following the covid stimulus bill but I'm wondering about the $600 cheques that will be sent out to people ... is this a per week amount?</p>
<p>Where I sit, we received $2000 per month when we were in lock down and out of work ...</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2020 08:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whether pharmacy, psychology, law, theology or public health, what doctor actually &quot;means&quot; in the practical sense is that someone studied for a long time to officially become an expert in something. medical, dental and veterinary doctors just became the norm for everyday use because that&#039;s the only kind of doctor most lay people interact with in a professional capacity on a regular basis. it&#039;s more a reflection of the anti-intellectual nature of our society that many people consider it pretentious to assign the title to anyone who doesn&#039;t fit that &quot;everyday&quot; definition. just because i can&#039;t prescribe medication doesn&#039;t mean i don&#039;t deserve the title just as much as my sister, who can. nobody can force anybody else to grant them the respect of whatever title they&#039;ve earned.


&lt;b&gt;i&#039;d appreciate it if he addressed me as colonel or sir. i believe i&#039;ve earned it.
~a few good men&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whether pharmacy, psychology, law, theology or public health, what doctor actually "means" in the practical sense is that someone studied for a long time to officially become an expert in something. medical, dental and veterinary doctors just became the norm for everyday use because that's the only kind of doctor most lay people interact with in a professional capacity on a regular basis. it's more a reflection of the anti-intellectual nature of our society that many people consider it pretentious to assign the title to anyone who doesn't fit that "everyday" definition. just because i can't prescribe medication doesn't mean i don't deserve the title just as much as my sister, who can. nobody can force anybody else to grant them the respect of whatever title they've earned.</p>
<p><b>i'd appreciate it if he addressed me as colonel or sir. i believe i've earned it.<br />
~a few good men</b></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2020 02:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andygaus,

&lt;I&gt;I know Jill Biden rightfully earned her degree and that &quot;doctor&quot; means &quot;teacher&quot;, but calling yourself &quot;Dr.&quot; on the basis of a PhD has always struck me as a bit pompous and still does.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, this isn&#039;t really about what Jill calls herself, is it? 

What it is about is how others refer to her as a simple gesture of respect and common decency. 

It&#039;s kind of like why we wear a face covering these days when we can&#039;t be sure of keep our proper distance.

The guy from the WSJ who gets his shirt in a knot over referring to the future First Lady as Dr. Biden doesn&#039;t understand the first thing about common human decency or about showing respect for others. He probably doesn&#039;t wear a mask when appropriate during a deadly pandemic, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andygaus,</p>
<p><i>I know Jill Biden rightfully earned her degree and that "doctor" means "teacher", but calling yourself "Dr." on the basis of a PhD has always struck me as a bit pompous and still does.</i></p>
<p>Well, this isn't really about what Jill calls herself, is it? </p>
<p>What it is about is how others refer to her as a simple gesture of respect and common decency. </p>
<p>It's kind of like why we wear a face covering these days when we can't be sure of keep our proper distance.</p>
<p>The guy from the WSJ who gets his shirt in a knot over referring to the future First Lady as Dr. Biden doesn't understand the first thing about common human decency or about showing respect for others. He probably doesn't wear a mask when appropriate during a deadly pandemic, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173014</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2020 02:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua,

&lt;i&gt;speaking as someone whose title &quot;doctor&quot; has many times been ignored or spoken derisively, this ultimately says a lot more about the person who addresses me than it does about my own qualifications. &lt;/i&gt;

Couldn&#039;t agree more. Would just be a little more specific in that it says more about the lack of character and integrity in the person addressing and how they don&#039;t hold a candle to the light of you and Dr. Biden and I could go on.

In any event, you and and the soon-to-be-First Lady are very good people and  the contrast you make with  the one who doesn&#039;t care to properly address couldn&#039;t be more stark. And, that will never change.

I&#039;m very tired right now and so I am sorry if this doesn&#039;t sound the way I maan it to sound but I know you know what I mean ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua,</p>
<p><i>speaking as someone whose title "doctor" has many times been ignored or spoken derisively, this ultimately says a lot more about the person who addresses me than it does about my own qualifications. </i></p>
<p>Couldn't agree more. Would just be a little more specific in that it says more about the lack of character and integrity in the person addressing and how they don't hold a candle to the light of you and Dr. Biden and I could go on.</p>
<p>In any event, you and and the soon-to-be-First Lady are very good people and  the contrast you make with  the one who doesn't care to properly address couldn't be more stark. And, that will never change.</p>
<p>I'm very tired right now and so I am sorry if this doesn't sound the way I maan it to sound but I know you know what I mean ... :)</p>
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		<title>By: John From Censornati</title>
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		<dc:creator>John From Censornati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 21:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fat Donny has finally spoken up about the Russian hack attack by, of course, defending Russia. Biden needs an administration that goes after this lying POS traitor and his crime family in every way possible. Lock him up!

I voted for Ron Johnson for Turncoat of the Year. What was I thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat Donny has finally spoken up about the Russian hack attack by, of course, defending Russia. Biden needs an administration that goes after this lying POS traitor and his crime family in every way possible. Lock him up!</p>
<p>I voted for Ron Johnson for Turncoat of the Year. What was I thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: MyVoice</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-173012</link>
		<dc:creator>MyVoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[20] Kick:

I recently ran across some stuff I thought you (and others) might enjoy. While reading the WaPo article &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/12/10/gift-guide-imagined-presents/?arc404=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What Money Can’t Buy: The Post’s Guide to Gifts That Don’t Exist but Should&lt;/a&gt;, I ran across a brief contribution, “A Measure of Good Faith,” written by Ken Liu. There, I found this intriguing bit about a gift idea for sussing out and avoiding online sea lions: 


&lt;i&gt;On the Internet, where any rando feels entitled to our full attention, where empathy is a weakness rather than a strength, the party that “wins” any argument is by default the one that cares the least. Out of self-preservation, we cease engaging with those who claim to want to converse but who are just as likely to be &lt;a href=&quot;http://wondermark.com/1k62/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;barking sea lions&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;


Naturally, as I was unfamiliar with online sea lions or the rhetorical strategy of sealioning, I followed Liu&#039;s link above to David Malki&#039;s cartoon, &quot;The Terrible Sea Lion.&quot; Hey, you can even buy a T-shirt!

This piqued my interest further and I ended up at an interesting essay by Amy Johnson in a Harvard publication entitled &quot;Perspectives on Harmful Speech Online: a collection of essays, August 2017.&quot; Her essay is entitled &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/cyber.harvard.edu/files/2017-08_harmfulspeech.pdf#page=13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Multiple Harms of Sea Lions&lt;/a&gt;, which this handy link will take you right to. I recommend this two-pager for everything you ever needed to know about sea lions and their impact on civil discourse and informal learning. 

Selected snippets:

&lt;i&gt;...Sealioning, [...], may feel familiar: it evokes
the toddler who incessantly asks why, the adolescent who has just discovered philosophy, the condescending family member who disapproves of your life choices. This familiarity is part of its power. These
interaction patterns summon a set of responses geared toward well-intentioned questioning. Sealioning
also fits into a larger set of rhetorical marginalization practices. Refusals to understand can be subtle
forms of erasure. 

...The harms of sealioning can seem relatively small: short-term annoyance when the practice is recognized, wasted energy when the practice goes unrecognized and the respondent gives sincere answers,
the opportunity cost of the time spent. This assessment, though, comes from looking at each single instance or person targeted in isolation... 

...[S]ealioning capitalizes on civility and conversation norms to demand debate and labor...

...In many ways, sealioning resembles the Gish gallop, a rhetorical strategy that creationists deployed
when debating evolutionists in the late twentieth century. The Gish gallop—named for Duane Gish, a
biochemist who became a famed creationist debater—careens through topics, rattling through half-truth
after half-truth. It aims both to overwhelm opponents’ ability to respond and to introduce doubt into the
minds of audiences...&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting essay. The author has no firm answer for best practices with sea lions, but she does touch on alternatives, including &quot;Don’t feed the troll,&quot; outlining a debate structure strategy that helped defang the Gish gallop, and the suggestion that &quot;[f]rom a
linguistic perspective, sealioning is noticeably patterned—perhaps platforms could automate discovery
of likely sealioning attempts and interrupt them.&quot;

There is always hope.

Health and happiness to all in this holiday season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[20] Kick:</p>
<p>I recently ran across some stuff I thought you (and others) might enjoy. While reading the WaPo article <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/12/10/gift-guide-imagined-presents/?arc404=true" rel="nofollow">What Money Can’t Buy: The Post’s Guide to Gifts That Don’t Exist but Should</a>, I ran across a brief contribution, “A Measure of Good Faith,” written by Ken Liu. There, I found this intriguing bit about a gift idea for sussing out and avoiding online sea lions: </p>
<p><i>On the Internet, where any rando feels entitled to our full attention, where empathy is a weakness rather than a strength, the party that “wins” any argument is by default the one that cares the least. Out of self-preservation, we cease engaging with those who claim to want to converse but who are just as likely to be <a href="http://wondermark.com/1k62/" rel="nofollow">barking sea lions</a>.</i></p>
<p>Naturally, as I was unfamiliar with online sea lions or the rhetorical strategy of sealioning, I followed Liu's link above to David Malki's cartoon, "The Terrible Sea Lion." Hey, you can even buy a T-shirt!</p>
<p>This piqued my interest further and I ended up at an interesting essay by Amy Johnson in a Harvard publication entitled "Perspectives on Harmful Speech Online: a collection of essays, August 2017." Her essay is entitled <a href="https://cyber.harvard.edu/sites/cyber.harvard.edu/files/2017-08_harmfulspeech.pdf#page=13" rel="nofollow">The Multiple Harms of Sea Lions</a>, which this handy link will take you right to. I recommend this two-pager for everything you ever needed to know about sea lions and their impact on civil discourse and informal learning. </p>
<p>Selected snippets:</p>
<p><i>...Sealioning, [...], may feel familiar: it evokes<br />
the toddler who incessantly asks why, the adolescent who has just discovered philosophy, the condescending family member who disapproves of your life choices. This familiarity is part of its power. These<br />
interaction patterns summon a set of responses geared toward well-intentioned questioning. Sealioning<br />
also fits into a larger set of rhetorical marginalization practices. Refusals to understand can be subtle<br />
forms of erasure. </p>
<p>...The harms of sealioning can seem relatively small: short-term annoyance when the practice is recognized, wasted energy when the practice goes unrecognized and the respondent gives sincere answers,<br />
the opportunity cost of the time spent. This assessment, though, comes from looking at each single instance or person targeted in isolation... </p>
<p>...[S]ealioning capitalizes on civility and conversation norms to demand debate and labor...</p>
<p>...In many ways, sealioning resembles the Gish gallop, a rhetorical strategy that creationists deployed<br />
when debating evolutionists in the late twentieth century. The Gish gallop—named for Duane Gish, a<br />
biochemist who became a famed creationist debater—careens through topics, rattling through half-truth<br />
after half-truth. It aims both to overwhelm opponents’ ability to respond and to introduce doubt into the<br />
minds of audiences...</i></p>
<p>Interesting essay. The author has no firm answer for best practices with sea lions, but she does touch on alternatives, including "Don’t feed the troll," outlining a debate structure strategy that helped defang the Gish gallop, and the suggestion that "[f]rom a<br />
linguistic perspective, sealioning is noticeably patterned—perhaps platforms could automate discovery<br />
of likely sealioning attempts and interrupt them."</p>
<p>There is always hope.</p>
<p>Health and happiness to all in this holiday season.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kick,

kittens were monday, december 7th. looks like we&#039;re already three quarters of the way there.

@rusty,

it would certainly be nice if we got a real educator as education secretary. is diane ravitch really too much to hope for?

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kick,</p>
<p>kittens were monday, december 7th. looks like we're already three quarters of the way there.</p>
<p>@rusty,</p>
<p>it would certainly be nice if we got a real educator as education secretary. is diane ravitch really too much to hope for?</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: MtnCaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnCaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 18:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[13] et al








Gotta agree with you. CW you went for the lowest hanging fruit this time around.</description>
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<p>Gotta agree with you. CW you went for the lowest hanging fruit this time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to point out once again that this blog will never be free of advertisements as long as Don Harris is free to post his bullshit unabated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm going to point out once again that this blog will never be free of advertisements as long as Don Harris is free to post his bullshit unabated.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CW: &lt;i&gt;Two program notes before we begin. First, everyone please take a look at that volume number. That&#039;s pretty amazing -- this is actually the six-hundredth of these columns! &lt;/i&gt;

600!

You&#039;ll have to forgive me... been busier than an elf at Christmas. I&#039;m catching up on a shit-ton of things, and I&#039;m actually just starting to read  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/03/46-minutes-of-festivus-grievances/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;46 Minutes Of Festivus Grievances&lt;/a&gt; ... after I pry my eyes open and get coffee, of course.
 
I don&#039;t see any kitties yet... but 600, you say?

Dang. That&#039;s a lot of zeroes. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CW: <i>Two program notes before we begin. First, everyone please take a look at that volume number. That's pretty amazing -- this is actually the six-hundredth of these columns! </i></p>
<p>600!</p>
<p>You'll have to forgive me... been busier than an elf at Christmas. I'm catching up on a shit-ton of things, and I'm actually just starting to read  <a href="http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/03/46-minutes-of-festivus-grievances/" rel="nofollow">46 Minutes Of Festivus Grievances</a> ... after I pry my eyes open and get coffee, of course.</p>
<p>I don't see any kitties yet... but 600, you say?</p>
<p>Dang. That's a lot of zeroes. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: italyrusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>italyrusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An honorable mention MUST go to Biden&#039;s selection for Transportation Secretary. Mr Buttigieg gave an insightful, moving speech at the announcement.
https://in.reuters.com/video/watch/id723136605</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An honorable mention MUST go to Biden's selection for Transportation Secretary. Mr Buttigieg gave an insightful, moving speech at the announcement.<br />
<a href="https://in.reuters.com/video/watch/id723136605" rel="nofollow">https://in.reuters.com/video/watch/id723136605</a></p>
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		<title>By: italyrusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>italyrusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if she identifies with any political party, but Ms Scott certainly deserves at least an honorable mention for something SHE actually DID.
&#039;A year after Scott, who is the 18th richest person in the world according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, signed onto the Giving Pledge, she announced she had donated $1.7 billion to 116 non-profit organizations. Since then, she has given an additional almost $4.2 billion in gifts to 384 organizations across all 50 states, Puerto Rico and Washington D.C.&#039;
https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/530556-mackenzie-scott-ex-wife-of-jeff-bezos-gives-away-4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know if she identifies with any political party, but Ms Scott certainly deserves at least an honorable mention for something SHE actually DID.<br />
'A year after Scott, who is the 18th richest person in the world according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, signed onto the Giving Pledge, she announced she had donated $1.7 billion to 116 non-profit organizations. Since then, she has given an additional almost $4.2 billion in gifts to 384 organizations across all 50 states, Puerto Rico and Washington D.C.'<br />
<a href="https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/530556-mackenzie-scott-ex-wife-of-jeff-bezos-gives-away-4" rel="nofollow">https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/530556-mackenzie-scott-ex-wife-of-jeff-bezos-gives-away-4</a></p>
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		<title>By: italyrusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>italyrusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MIDDOW confounds me. While it is admirable that Biden plans to nominate Rep. Haaland, what did SHE do?  And even if you disagree with this point, this is very premature, as Biden hasn&#039;t officially presented any nomination to the Senate - and of course can&#039;t until 20 January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MIDDOW confounds me. While it is admirable that Biden plans to nominate Rep. Haaland, what did SHE do?  And even if you disagree with this point, this is very premature, as Biden hasn't officially presented any nomination to the Senate - and of course can't until 20 January.</p>
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		<title>By: italyrusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>italyrusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If and when you decide to resume real talking points to Democrats, here are themes to emphasize (one of which is tangential to your first talking point above)
* The First Lady is a life-long educator and President Biden is a strong supporter of unions. American teachers must be elevated in this period, including increasing funding to the Dept of Education and strengthening the labor laws that protect teachers. (Did you know that many state contracts with the teacher union explicitly PROHIBIT walkouts, a egregious denial of a critical negotiating tool?)
* It is heartbreaking to read that farmers in Trump country think of the Republican Party as &#039;good for farmers&#039;. I grew up in a rural area and, once upon a time, the Republican Party was rightly identified as &#039;fat cats&#039;, interested in Wall Street over Main Street. The Democratic Party MUST call out this false idea. This includes highlighting a) the number of farms that failed during Trump&#039;s 4 years in office and b) the amount of the high-dollar &#039;farm support&#039; checks that go to corporations and wealthy &#039;plantation owners&#039;.
* Obamacare provided much-needed funding to rural hospitals. Republicans of course for the past decade have worked tirelessly to end Obamacare. Democrats allowed them to convince rural voters that Obamacare was bad, remaining stunningly-silent about the basic facts. The pandemic has highlighted even more the paucity of affordable healthcare facilities for most of Trump&#039;s &#039;base voters&#039;, who live far from the nearest hospital and lack public transit options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If and when you decide to resume real talking points to Democrats, here are themes to emphasize (one of which is tangential to your first talking point above)<br />
* The First Lady is a life-long educator and President Biden is a strong supporter of unions. American teachers must be elevated in this period, including increasing funding to the Dept of Education and strengthening the labor laws that protect teachers. (Did you know that many state contracts with the teacher union explicitly PROHIBIT walkouts, a egregious denial of a critical negotiating tool?)<br />
* It is heartbreaking to read that farmers in Trump country think of the Republican Party as 'good for farmers'. I grew up in a rural area and, once upon a time, the Republican Party was rightly identified as 'fat cats', interested in Wall Street over Main Street. The Democratic Party MUST call out this false idea. This includes highlighting a) the number of farms that failed during Trump's 4 years in office and b) the amount of the high-dollar 'farm support' checks that go to corporations and wealthy 'plantation owners'.<br />
* Obamacare provided much-needed funding to rural hospitals. Republicans of course for the past decade have worked tirelessly to end Obamacare. Democrats allowed them to convince rural voters that Obamacare was bad, remaining stunningly-silent about the basic facts. The pandemic has highlighted even more the paucity of affordable healthcare facilities for most of Trump's 'base voters', who live far from the nearest hospital and lack public transit options.</p>
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		<title>By: italyrusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>italyrusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh! Another FTP column that seems to be more like a click-bait list of Republican pettiness instead of critical issues facing the nation.

Here are some suggested topics that COULD HAVE been included as &#039;talking points&#039;:
* Despite the Democratically-controlled House TWICE passing COVID stimulation and critically-needed funding to address the myriad additional costs of the pandemic, the Republican-controlled Senate STILL hasn&#039;t passed anything. And the obstruction continues, and WILL continue in 2021 if, as expected, either Georgia Senator is Republican.
* Related to #1, the Senate is finding time to confirm appointees, but not to extend eviction moratorium, unemployment supplements, extra funding for food stamps, preventing disconnection of water and electricity during a pandemic, etc.
* Already there is a clamor to jump the line in vaccine priority. Who needs the vaccine more, an &#039;essential worker&#039; in a meatpacking plant or Amazon warehouse -or- NBA player?
* Florida alone is facing a $5 billion shortfall, resulting in the loss of thousands of state-government jobs. Already thousands of cuts at the state and local level have been implemented in 2020.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh! Another FTP column that seems to be more like a click-bait list of Republican pettiness instead of critical issues facing the nation.</p>
<p>Here are some suggested topics that COULD HAVE been included as 'talking points':<br />
* Despite the Democratically-controlled House TWICE passing COVID stimulation and critically-needed funding to address the myriad additional costs of the pandemic, the Republican-controlled Senate STILL hasn't passed anything. And the obstruction continues, and WILL continue in 2021 if, as expected, either Georgia Senator is Republican.<br />
* Related to #1, the Senate is finding time to confirm appointees, but not to extend eviction moratorium, unemployment supplements, extra funding for food stamps, preventing disconnection of water and electricity during a pandemic, etc.<br />
* Already there is a clamor to jump the line in vaccine priority. Who needs the vaccine more, an 'essential worker' in a meatpacking plant or Amazon warehouse -or- NBA player?<br />
* Florida alone is facing a $5 billion shortfall, resulting in the loss of thousands of state-government jobs. Already thousands of cuts at the state and local level have been implemented in 2020.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking as someone whose title &quot;doctor&quot; has many times been ignored or spoken derisively, this ultimately says a lot more about the person who addresses me than it does about my own qualifications. in the case of students, most genuinely have no idea - nor would i expect them to, unless one has the sensitivity to ask. they are just used to calling male teachers &quot;mister.&quot;

in the case of colleagues and administrators, it&#039;s generally either ignorance or insecurity on their own part. it does sting a little, but i feel like going to the trouble of correcting someone calls more attention to their issues, whatever they may be, than the breach of protocol warrants.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking as someone whose title "doctor" has many times been ignored or spoken derisively, this ultimately says a lot more about the person who addresses me than it does about my own qualifications. in the case of students, most genuinely have no idea - nor would i expect them to, unless one has the sensitivity to ask. they are just used to calling male teachers "mister."</p>
<p>in the case of colleagues and administrators, it's generally either ignorance or insecurity on their own part. it does sting a little, but i feel like going to the trouble of correcting someone calls more attention to their issues, whatever they may be, than the breach of protocol warrants.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 04:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LWYH [6] -

The article wasn&#039;t totally clear, but it kind of implied it was about verifying things like addresses before they actually got a search warrant, when the info came in from a CI.  Seems like a pretty basic thing to do...

-CW</description>
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<p>The article wasn't totally clear, but it kind of implied it was about verifying things like addresses before they actually got a search warrant, when the info came in from a CI.  Seems like a pretty basic thing to do...</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LWYH [5] -

Ha!  That&#039;s pretty funny.  I kept thinking of &quot;the Maestro&quot; from Seinfeld, and &quot;A Pimp Called Slickback&quot; from the animated Boondocks (who absolutely demanded that the whole title be used each and every time...).

The key is, it is totally up to the person who earned it to decide.

-CW</description>
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<p>Ha!  That's pretty funny.  I kept thinking of "the Maestro" from Seinfeld, and "A Pimp Called Slickback" from the animated Boondocks (who absolutely demanded that the whole title be used each and every time...).</p>
<p>The key is, it is totally up to the person who earned it to decide.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 04:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LizM -

Tell me about it...

ListenWhenYouHear -

Thanks for that, I don&#039;t follow Chicago politics that closely, but it certainly is interesting.  Chicago police have had this problem approximately forever, from what I hear...

-CW</description>
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<p>Tell me about it...</p>
<p>ListenWhenYouHear -</p>
<p>Thanks for that, I don't follow Chicago politics that closely, but it certainly is interesting.  Chicago police have had this problem approximately forever, from what I hear...</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 04:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andygaus [2] -

I think it mostly depends on the university.  There are some where everyone DEMANDS it and woe to the lowly staffer who doesn&#039;t remember.  Others are looser.

The main point, however, is that it is TOTALLY up to the person who earned it whether she uses it or not.  That&#039;s the real rule of thumb, which is why the entire article was indeed &quot;mansplaining.&quot;  As someone pointed out, would he have written that about Dr. Henry Kissinger?  I seriously doubt it, personally...

-CW</description>
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<p>I think it mostly depends on the university.  There are some where everyone DEMANDS it and woe to the lowly staffer who doesn't remember.  Others are looser.</p>
<p>The main point, however, is that it is TOTALLY up to the person who earned it whether she uses it or not.  That's the real rule of thumb, which is why the entire article was indeed "mansplaining."  As someone pointed out, would he have written that about Dr. Henry Kissinger?  I seriously doubt it, personally...</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 04:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, just updated the pledge drive thermometer -- we&#039;re approaching 3/4 of the goal, woo hoo!

:-)

-CW</description>
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<p>:-)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: ListenWhenYouHear</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-172994</link>
		<dc:creator>ListenWhenYouHear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 03:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CW,

&lt;I&gt; However, Chicago police have continued to ignore even the small search warrant policy changes Lightfoot made in February of this year, nearly two years after CBS2 began exposing botched Chicago police raids.&lt;/i&gt;

What policy changes have the police continued to ignore?  They throw that out there without justifying the claim, so I was curious if you knew what they are talking about?</description>
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<p><i> However, Chicago police have continued to ignore even the small search warrant policy changes Lightfoot made in February of this year, nearly two years after CBS2 began exposing botched Chicago police raids.</i></p>
<p>What policy changes have the police continued to ignore?  They throw that out there without justifying the claim, so I was curious if you knew what they are talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: ListenWhenYouHear</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-172993</link>
		<dc:creator>ListenWhenYouHear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 03:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andygaus,

The only time it is necessary to address someone as “Doctor” is in a professional/formal/official setting when the person is being introduced or addressed.   

When you are on personal terms with the person, most will not want to be addressed formally in day to day interactions.  How your professors chose to be addressed was their choice.   We called them what they told us to call them when we were in class.

But only when we were in class!   As my friend Jeff Cole told a professor that he bumped into at a football game who corrected Jeff when he addressed him as “Mr.” instead of the “Dr.” he thought he deserved, “Your degree means nothing here.  If you believe we are entitled to be addressed by our greatest accomplishment then you should refer to me as ‘A man with a 12 inch penis Jeff Cole’”.   

Jeff wisely dropped the class the following week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andygaus,</p>
<p>The only time it is necessary to address someone as “Doctor” is in a professional/formal/official setting when the person is being introduced or addressed.   </p>
<p>When you are on personal terms with the person, most will not want to be addressed formally in day to day interactions.  How your professors chose to be addressed was their choice.   We called them what they told us to call them when we were in class.</p>
<p>But only when we were in class!   As my friend Jeff Cole told a professor that he bumped into at a football game who corrected Jeff when he addressed him as “Mr.” instead of the “Dr.” he thought he deserved, “Your degree means nothing here.  If you believe we are entitled to be addressed by our greatest accomplishment then you should refer to me as ‘A man with a 12 inch penis Jeff Cole’”.   </p>
<p>Jeff wisely dropped the class the following week.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-172992</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 03:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MDDOTW - when will they ever learn.

You&#039;re right, Chris, this is beyond disappointing.</description>
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<p>You're right, Chris, this is beyond disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: ListenWhenYouHear</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-172991</link>
		<dc:creator>ListenWhenYouHear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 03:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devon’s former police chief has made a name for herself as a “fixer” for bringing about change in departments that needed change.  She’s turned around 4 major departments since we’ve known her... but she met her match in Chicago.   She was not hired to be the chief, but was hired as one of the top commanders in charge of policy training — her greatest strength as an administrator by far.

She was out of there in just over 6 months.   They hired her to bring about change...they just wanted her to do it without ACTUALLY changing anything!   

Chicago has some real problems — from the top on down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devon’s former police chief has made a name for herself as a “fixer” for bringing about change in departments that needed change.  She’s turned around 4 major departments since we’ve known her... but she met her match in Chicago.   She was not hired to be the chief, but was hired as one of the top commanders in charge of policy training — her greatest strength as an administrator by far.</p>
<p>She was out of there in just over 6 months.   They hired her to bring about change...they just wanted her to do it without ACTUALLY changing anything!   </p>
<p>Chicago has some real problems — from the top on down!</p>
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		<title>By: andygaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>andygaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 02:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the use of Dr. as a title is now virtually mandatory in academic circles, then academia has gotten a lot stuffier than when I went to Wesleyan University in the &#039;60s. We called our professors simply Mr., Miss, and Mrs. I know Jill Biden rightfully earned her degree and that &quot;doctor&quot; means &quot;teacher&quot;, but calling yourself &quot;Dr.&quot; on the basis of a PhD has always struck me as a bit pompous and still does. People writing about this issue have assumed that the Wall Street Journal author would never have complained about a man using the title, but we don&#039;t know that. If he could have stopped short of calling her &quot;kiddo,&quot; I would be more sympathetic with his position. Fancy titles are something we can always use fewer of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the use of Dr. as a title is now virtually mandatory in academic circles, then academia has gotten a lot stuffier than when I went to Wesleyan University in the '60s. We called our professors simply Mr., Miss, and Mrs. I know Jill Biden rightfully earned her degree and that "doctor" means "teacher", but calling yourself "Dr." on the basis of a PhD has always struck me as a bit pompous and still does. People writing about this issue have assumed that the Wall Street Journal author would never have complained about a man using the title, but we don't know that. If he could have stopped short of calling her "kiddo," I would be more sympathetic with his position. Fancy titles are something we can always use fewer of.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/18/friday-talking-points-is-it-january-20th-yet/#comment-172989</link>
		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 02:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry this is from a while ago. Been dealing with a serious bout of arthritis recently....

C. R. Stucki wrote:

&quot;The question you raise with that seriously bad comparison is, would you still feel the same way (about the danger of falling off a tall building), if you had heard of tens of thousands of people who HAD fallen off a tall building, with absolutely no adverse effects?&quot;

The short simple answer to that question is: YES

Because: Needless, preventable deaths, no matter how few, are still of major consequence in comparison to their number. Please do not belittle their importance. They are all still human beings, and in many cases someone&#039;s loved one, gone before their time. It does not matter if they would have eventually died anyway. Nor does it matter that most who contract covid either don&#039;t get sick at all, or don&#039;t die. Or even if covid never affects most of the people you know or in your community. We still do all we can to mitigate deaths from tornadoes, after all. How many do they actually affect? Why waste all that money??? Because, in short, we are our brothers keeeper after all!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry this is from a while ago. Been dealing with a serious bout of arthritis recently....</p>
<p>C. R. Stucki wrote:</p>
<p>"The question you raise with that seriously bad comparison is, would you still feel the same way (about the danger of falling off a tall building), if you had heard of tens of thousands of people who HAD fallen off a tall building, with absolutely no adverse effects?"</p>
<p>The short simple answer to that question is: YES</p>
<p>Because: Needless, preventable deaths, no matter how few, are still of major consequence in comparison to their number. Please do not belittle their importance. They are all still human beings, and in many cases someone's loved one, gone before their time. It does not matter if they would have eventually died anyway. Nor does it matter that most who contract covid either don't get sick at all, or don't die. Or even if covid never affects most of the people you know or in your community. We still do all we can to mitigate deaths from tornadoes, after all. How many do they actually affect? Why waste all that money??? Because, in short, we are our brothers keeeper after all!!!</p>
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