The majority of Americans support Progressive policies but apparently don't support being labeled "Progressive."

Good form, MC. Labels matter. Rhetoric matters.

The millionaire Bernie Sanders and his Socialist establishment were the Big Money candidate in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary, outspending all the other candidates... until Mike Bloomberg entered the race in November and took no donations at all and therefore by definition was a Small Money candidate beholden to no one.

Nevertheless, despite Small Money billionaire Mike Bloomberg spending exponentially more than several of the other candidates combined and Big Money millionaire Socialist establishment Sanders spending double the amount of the eventual Democratic nominee, Joe Biden won the so-called "Democratic establishment" that is commonly referred to as the majority of voters. :)

Most Americans are progressive when polled on individual issues, like medicare for all.

Incorrect. Most Americans are not Progressives when polled at the only poll that matters where they vote for a candidate... unless they're stupid and vote for themselves.

The main reason Biden won is he was running against Trump.

The main reason Biden won is because the majority of voters selected his name out of the myriad of multiple candidates they could have chosen. Biden/Harris and Trump/Pence were not the only candidates for president on anyone's ballot. There were multiple choices that people could have made, yet they voted for Biden/Harris. Not complicated.

If he was running against a progressive in the general election he would have lost.

Opinions are like assholes.

(He only won the primary because the Deathocrat establishment controlled the primary.)

Bullshit. Biden won the primary for the same reason he won the general: He received the most votes of the people in multiple states that combined to represent the majority of electoral votes necessary to win the requisite necessary total.

In 2016 Hillary was the arch-Neoliberalist running against Trump, and America rejected her.

Similar to when somebody overthinks something is the practice of oversimplifying them. Try not doing it.

Only in the United States would the female candidate who received multiple more millions of votes than the con artist lying prick be described as "America rejected her."

If "America rejected her," then America has most definitely rejected Bernie Sanders and the Socialist establishment. <--- Yes, that was intentional and meant to be thought provoking. :)

Hey Kick, did you say that you're a twin? I am a twin -- I have a Fraternal twin brother.

You and me and MyVoice are all fraternal twins. :)

You do that! It'll keep you out of trouble. :)

Heh. I don't understand their seeming expectation that the Democratic Party "establishment" isn't doing enough to allow the hostile takeover of their Party by their preferred candidate who isn't and never has been a Democrat and prattles on and on about "overthrowing the Democratic establishment."

Oh, the Progressives, God love 'em ...

If she really did love them, she likely would have given them the good sense not to say stupid things.

Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders

I've got news for the Republican establishment. I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us.

7:02 PM * Feb 21, 2020 * Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1231021453270769664

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I've got news for the Socialist establishment. The voters are the "establishment." You can't stop them. :)

Y'all remember "Hope and Change?" We Progressives bought into that and I, for one, was greatly disappointed by Obama.

So-called "Progressives" who are seemingly happy with nothing less than "revolution" need to remember/consider the fact that our Madisonian system of checks and balances was purposely designed to prevent the type of "hostile takeover" they had slowly yet successfully managed -- with invaluable assistance from the enemy of our enemy -- to execute against "The Crown."

The DNC jammed Hillary down our throats over Bernie in 2016...

Bernie Sanders made the choice to run for president in the Democratic primary even though he had never been a member of the Democratic Party in his entire life and had spent a great number of decades disparaging Democrats. Indeed, every time Bernie had talked about overthrowing the Democratic establishment, it was cringeworthy to the majority of Democrats who are not a so-called "Socialist" like Bernie and his Liberty Union Party pals and hold political views best described as "Centrist" or "Moderate."

Bernie Sanders failed in his self-defined quest to "overthrow the Democratic establishment" because he failed to garner the votes necessary in order to do so... specifically, Bernie failed to win over voters in the South. Meanwhile, no one in the DNC forced any voters to choose one candidate over another in the voting booth. Bernie had four years between 2016 and 2020 to gain the support in the South required to win the Democratic nomination, but he failed to garner the necessary votes.
Despite all the noise the activists generate on social media and their insistence that Bernie had more supporters because he was raising more money, the votes proving that support never managed to materialize. That is because the majority of Democrats are indeed "Moderates," and while they might not be as loud as the "Progressives" on Twitter and Facebook, they definitely will and do show up to the polls and cast their votes like clockwork... and in this day and age, you cannot hope to win the Democratic nomination nor "overthrow the Democratic establishment" without those votes on Super Tuesday and those reliable moderate and pragmatic voters in the South. Super Tuesday. :)

For forty years Progressives have watched the Repugs and their Democratic enablers do this to America. Biden trying to recreate the pre-Trump status quo will fail America.

Might I suggest that "Progressives" referring to Democrats as "enablers" of "Repugs" and self-described "Socialists" prattling on and on about how they're going to "overthrow the Democratic establishment" are ignoring the fact that the so-called "establishment" are the voters you're disparaging in unflattering terms every time you refer to them in those terms. Not a winning formula.

And I shall thence devote the rest of my days to making the Democratic Socialists of America a major party.

That would likely be preferable to the Democratic Party and their voters whom you're disparaging as "enablers" and whining about because your preferred candidate failed to garner their votes... twice. The voters of the Democratic Party are the "establishment" who choose the candidate, and no one forced them to vote either one way or another. :)

Pulpit

This second one is also Georgia runoff specific:

On the Ballot

These are more general interest:

Whispers 3

And, lastly:

Remove "Republic" from "Republican"

Elizabeth Miller wrote:

The majority of Americans are NOT Progressives.

The majority of Americans support Progressive policies but apparently don't support being labeled "Progressive."

Don Harris wrote,

But it is time for all of us to call it a night on the delusion that Biden will be anything but a more of the same nothing will fundamentally change servant of the big money interests

Yeppers, hope you're wrong wrong wrong but this is what I'm afraid of.

But, let's not get caught up on labels, shall we? :)

There was, from the beginning, an inevitable relationship between the utopian ideal of the free market and the dystopian present in which we find ourselves; between the market as unique discloser of value and guardian of liberty, and our current descent into post-truth and illiberalism.

As mentioned previously, Obama talked like a Progressive yet governed like another "more of the same" President. In 2016 Hillary was the arch-Neoliberalist running against Trump, and America rejected her.

If Joe offers up more of the same Democrats (and ultimately, America) will be the worst for it. Joe needs to model FDR not Obama -- our situation demands nothing less!

Why is the Trump White House suddenly a very polite place to work? Everyone's going around saying "pardon me". --- Dan Rather

Heh.

Never bet against an astronaut or a twin. :)

Yes, sir... because the 1 electoral college vote Biden had flipped from Red to Blue in Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District combined with Arizona's 11 electoral college votes flipping from Red to Blue meant that Trump almost had to run the table on the remaining states where millions of absentee ballots had already been cast and had been sitting in boxes for weeks and weeks and need only be counted.

When Arizona was called for Biden, it was just a matter of time to count those multiple millions of ballots that had been sitting there for weeks wherein the GOP had sued certain states in order to keep them from being counted until election day... but the number of outstanding mail-in ballots and the fact that they would skew heavily toward Biden was already known.

The GOP sabotaged the delivery of ballots by the USPS and the timely counting of the ballots by design. Anyone who doesn't believe they knew they had lost the election need only review Trump's speech wherein he whined about going to the Supreme Court and wanting "all voting to stop" and not wanting "them to find any ballots at four o’clock in the morning and add them to the list."

These GOP talking heads really believe their voters are stupid... witnessed by the fact they're now claiming that Trump won in a 400+ electoral vote landslide and that Trump won California. *shakes head* If any of the Trump cult are buying into the utter asinine and nonsensical blathering conspiracy bullshit that Trump actually won California, then how could we dispute the GOP's assessment of their voters' intelligence?

Oh, the Progressives, God love 'em ...

Not only the system crash of Trump’s victory in 2016 but his near-miss in 2020 mean that it is not a time for complacency. But if Biden’s presidency stands for little more than nostalgia for a lost foreign policy, it will not only miss a historic opportunity for a US reboot. Reviving old mistakes will only lead some new rough beast to slouch toward Washington, promising to save America from them.

Y'all remember "Hope and Change?" We Progressives bought into that and I, for one, was greatly disappointed by Obama. The DNC jammed Hillary down our throats over Bernie in 2016 and campaigned on "Obama's Third term" which I strongly believe that this depressed turnout, which resulted in President Trump. America took a flyer on Trump because "Republican lite" ain't gonna get it anymore.

Forty years ago Reagan started dismantling the New Deal. By giving tax cuts to the folks who least needed it he starved the government of resources. Bush the Younger and most recently Trump did the "rince and repeat" and now the Repugs will rediscover budgetary discipline.

For forty years Progressives have watched the Repugs and their Democratic enablers do this to America. Biden trying to recreate the pre-Trump status quo will fail America.

And I shall thence devote the rest of my days to making the Democratic Socialists of America a major party.

Yes, you are trying at times.

I'm sure he'll be another great argument against term limits!

Way to keep the snarkness alive and well in this Comments section, Elizabeth.

Good point about the very different Latino populations in Arizona versus Florida. It's clear that Arizona has the potential to be more of a battleground state than Florida for the foreseeable future. Although I see Florida is also worth contesting.

Glad that you're back in the saddle on the politics, Amigo.

Really?

What you are actually doing is looking for a solution without a real problem. I mean, didn't the DiFi situation work itself out before any real damage was done?

It would allow for experienced leadership but avoid the Diane Finestein problem. I have seen this system work in a number of varied organizations I see no reason why it would not work in the Senate. It seems to me to achieve the goal of exploiting experience without allowing it to ossify and rot.