Comments on: Senate Democrats Debate Changing Seniority Rules http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/ Reality-based political commentary Tue, 07 Apr 2026 20:35:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172601 Kick Thu, 03 Dec 2020 02:17:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172601 Don Harris 15 <i>That would explain why these changes were not made previously. Standard operating procedure for the Deathocrats. </i> Said the troll whose "standard operating procedure" is an outdated and unchanged website and commentary that never changes. <i>Gosh, if the Deathocrats had previously made the change to their SOP of financing their campaigns with big money then Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, etc. would not have outstayed their welcome at the top of a corrupt half of the big money two party deception.</i> Gosh, if the troll Death Harris had previously made the change to his SOP bullshit website and lame old/same old stale commentary... yawn... outstayed his welcome. <i>Any new and improved packaging still contains the same defective bullshit. </i> That certainly explains your outdated website. <i>Wake up. Wise up. Rise up. </i> Jerk off. Jerk off. Jerk off. Don Harris
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That would explain why these changes were not made previously. Standard operating procedure for the Deathocrats.

Said the troll whose "standard operating procedure" is an outdated and unchanged website and commentary that never changes.

Gosh, if the Deathocrats had previously made the change to their SOP of financing their campaigns with big money then Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, etc. would not have outstayed their welcome at the top of a corrupt half of the big money two party deception.

Gosh, if the troll Death Harris had previously made the change to his SOP bullshit website and lame old/same old stale commentary... yawn... outstayed his welcome.

Any new and improved packaging still contains the same defective bullshit.

That certainly explains your outdated website.

Wake up. Wise up. Rise up.

Jerk off. Jerk off. Jerk off.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172589 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 03 Dec 2020 00:21:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172589 But, I still don't like term limits for elected office. But, I still don't like term limits for elected office.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172588 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 03 Dec 2020 00:20:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172588 andygaus, <i>to have the Chair term of one year and each year the Members of that committee elect a Chair. </i> There aren't enough elections in your country already? I mean, how often do senators have to run for their seat, let alone their chairmanship. They'd be running for something all the time, no? Your idea would be a lot better if the chair had a six year term unless re-elected by his fellow membera or ousted sooner by his constituents. andygaus,

to have the Chair term of one year and each year the Members of that committee elect a Chair.

There aren't enough elections in your country already? I mean, how often do senators have to run for their seat, let alone their chairmanship. They'd be running for something all the time, no?

Your idea would be a lot better if the chair had a six year term unless re-elected by his fellow membera or ousted sooner by his constituents.

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172587 ListenWhenYouHear Thu, 03 Dec 2020 00:06:08 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172587 I used to think that term limits were needed in politics, but not anymore. I would rather have a politician who views their job as a career than a politician that views being in office as a spring board into what they truly want to become. Plus, if the politician’s constituents are happy with the individual representing them, who are we to say that they are wrong to elect the candidate that they want? I agree that Democrats need to mix up how they determine their seniority positions. If Albert Einstein was just elected to the Senate, do we really think it’s in our best interest to have the person elected because they have famous relatives who served a century ago should have seniority over Einstein on the Space and Science Committee? I used to think that term limits were needed in politics, but not anymore. I would rather have a politician who views their job as a career than a politician that views being in office as a spring board into what they truly want to become. Plus, if the politician’s constituents are happy with the individual representing them, who are we to say that they are wrong to elect the candidate that they want?

I agree that Democrats need to mix up how they determine their seniority positions. If Albert Einstein was just elected to the Senate, do we really think it’s in our best interest to have the person elected because they have famous relatives who served a century ago should have seniority over Einstein on the Space and Science Committee?

]]> By: SF Bear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172583 SF Bear Wed, 02 Dec 2020 19:37:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172583 Another approach to this problem that avoids some of the issues with term limits. Is a system that has worked well for a number of boards I have been member of, and that is; to have the Chair term of one year and each year the Members of that committee elect a Chair. There is no limit to how often an individual can be elected Chair but when the members who understand the dynamics of that body better than anyone else no longer have confidence in that person they simply select a new one. This allows the body to churn just enough to have a nice uniform consistency without turning into hard butter. Another approach to this problem that avoids some of the issues with term limits. Is a system that has worked well for a number of boards I have been member of, and that is; to have the Chair term of one year and each year the Members of that committee elect a Chair. There is no limit to how often an individual can be elected Chair but when the members who understand the dynamics of that body better than anyone else no longer have confidence in that person they simply select a new one. This allows the body to churn just enough to have a nice uniform consistency without turning into hard butter.

]]> By: Mezzomamma http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172580 Mezzomamma Wed, 02 Dec 2020 12:18:14 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172580 What, I wonder, is the magic number of years between 'time to go' and 'not enough experience'? Term limits need to allow for developing in the job, without blocking others or becoming stale. And of course, some are more effective than others and perhaps deserve a longer time. A mentoring system for newcomers would be good as well, perhaps moving them around between committees, so they get to know the ropes while still having fresh ideas. What, I wonder, is the magic number of years between 'time to go' and 'not enough experience'? Term limits need to allow for developing in the job, without blocking others or becoming stale. And of course, some are more effective than others and perhaps deserve a longer time. A mentoring system for newcomers would be good as well, perhaps moving them around between committees, so they get to know the ropes while still having fresh ideas.

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172579 Kick Wed, 02 Dec 2020 10:29:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172579 CW: <i>Younger progressives are more in favor of Whitehouse getting the job, because they see him as much more aggressive in standing up to the Republicans on the committee. </i> I agree with the progressives on this particular issue. Might as well keep Feinstein if Durbin is her replacement. CW: Younger progressives are more in favor of Whitehouse getting the job, because they see him as much more aggressive in standing up to the Republicans on the committee.

I agree with the progressives on this particular issue. Might as well keep Feinstein if Durbin is her replacement.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172576 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 06:08:36 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172576 Tom Friedman had a phone interview with Biden today and here is his column about it ... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/02/opinion/biden-interview-mcconnell-china-iran.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage Tom Friedman had a phone interview with Biden today and here is his column about it ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/02/opinion/biden-interview-mcconnell-china-iran.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172575 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 05:46:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172575 It could be that I'm living in the past. It could be that I'm living in the past.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172574 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 05:46:10 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172574 But, that's not always the case. But, that's not always the case.

]]> By: andygaus http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172572 andygaus Wed, 02 Dec 2020 05:33:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172572 It would be good to have more people rotating in and out of chairmanships. The effective chairman who leaves their post after doing a good job still maintains a lot of their influence, and a new person gets to show their strength. Conversely, whenever any person stays in a position long enough to think of it as "my office" or "my seat," the seeds of some kind of deterioration have been sown, whether it's corruption or complacency. It would be good to have more people rotating in and out of chairmanships. The effective chairman who leaves their post after doing a good job still maintains a lot of their influence, and a new person gets to show their strength. Conversely, whenever any person stays in a position long enough to think of it as "my office" or "my seat," the seeds of some kind of deterioration have been sown, whether it's corruption or complacency.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172571 nypoet22 Wed, 02 Dec 2020 05:13:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172571 @sfbear[1], now you're speaking my language! @sfbear[1],

now you're speaking my language!

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172570 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 01:23:49 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172570 SF Bear, <i>I am all for churning. I love hand churned ice cream on my pie!</i> I'm all for that, too. Just as long as you are the one doing all the churning. Heh. SF Bear,

I am all for churning. I love hand churned ice cream on my pie!

I'm all for that, too. Just as long as you are the one doing all the churning. Heh.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172569 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 01:21:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172569 Chris, <i>That would allow a lot more "churn" throughout all of these committees, and would allow new senators the chance to have real influence a lot earlier than how it now works. </i> Why do you think it would be a good idea for new senators to have more influence earlier in their senate careers? Is it because you're a fan of term limits, too? :) Chris,

That would allow a lot more "churn" throughout all of these committees, and would allow new senators the chance to have real influence a lot earlier than how it now works.

Why do you think it would be a good idea for new senators to have more influence earlier in their senate careers? Is it because you're a fan of term limits, too? :)

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172568 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 01:16:26 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172568 Chris, <i>It may be hard for Democrats to admit, but the Republicans are actually the ones who have made much more progress on allowing less-senior members to rise through their ranks.</i> And, far from progress, this has turned out to be the veritable joke that some had most surely predicted. Chris,

It may be hard for Democrats to admit, but the Republicans are actually the ones who have made much more progress on allowing less-senior members to rise through their ranks.

And, far from progress, this has turned out to be the veritable joke that some had most surely predicted.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172567 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 01:13:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172567 I've never been much of a fan of terms limits, either. I've never been much of a fan of terms limits, either.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172566 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 01:12:15 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172566 I'm all for the perks of seniority in the US senate, for the record. I'm all for the perks of seniority in the US senate, for the record.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172565 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 02 Dec 2020 01:10:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172565 Personally, I'd be happy with Durbin or Whitehouse taking on the job of top Dem on the Judiciary committee. But, I'd rather see either one as the chairman so ... Let's go Democrats and win those Georgia senate seats! Personally, I'd be happy with Durbin or Whitehouse taking on the job of top Dem on the Judiciary committee. But, I'd rather see either one as the chairman so ...

Let's go Democrats and win those Georgia senate seats!

]]> By: SF Bear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/12/01/senate-democrats-debate-changing-seniority-rules/#comment-172564 SF Bear Wed, 02 Dec 2020 00:51:13 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19666#comment-172564 I am all for churning. I love hand churned ice cream on my pie! I am all for churning. I love hand churned ice cream on my pie!

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