Heh. :)

Well, MtnCaddy, let's just hope that the Lincoln project is at work as we speak on an ad to counter what will be coming Re. Texas, Oklahoma, etc and the oil industry!

The Lincoln Project won't be because there's no need. How did I miss seeing this talk about Texas!?

EM, you needn't spend a second worrying about Oklahoma; it is solid Red already and won't be flipping in 2020 or likely anytime soon.

As for Texas and the quote/unquote "oil industry," as I've discussed multiple times before when the broken record was playing the same song over and over about Biden's oil/fracking comments: Texas is a large and diverse state that isn't remotely defined by its "oil industry" to the extent that Trump, the GOP, and the rhetoric of the gullible minions/useful idiots have given "lip service" to ad nauseam. Those fossil fuel voters are "baked in" Trumplican voters already. There's little downside to Biden's statement and a tremendous upside with younger voters.

The oil industry has no future. This is what Biden essentially said and he was right.

Exactly right! The fossil fuel industry has no long-term future and is being phased out regardless what Biden says. Consider the coal industry to which Trump made a lot of promises to, and he's been unable to deliver because of that fact and nothing Trump could do would save it... nothing.

And, this might very well have lost the election for him.

*laughs* The idea that Biden's answer to that question may have cost him the entire election is ridiculous. Why would it? Because of Texas? Biden doesn't need Texas; however, Trump cannot win in 2020 without it. Because of Pennsylvania? There are only ~26,000 (give or take) oil industry/energy/fracking voters in Pennsylvania, and they're primarily GOP/Trump voters already. It's baked in the cake already. If Biden loses Pennsylvania, it won't be because of that statement.

If Biden loses the election, it won't be because of that statement about the oil industry. MtnCaddy's comments on this energy subject are dead-on accurate. :)

Now that you mention it, I sure do. That was a great chuckle. Please... Please...

You've got to be kidding. I've got a fever and almost anything would be improved with MORE COWBELL. So I asked Albert Bouchard of Blue Öyster Cult and here are his thoughts: Albert Bouchard .

Heh. That is some epic level 'splainin' about COWBELL! Who knew?

That tune in the new Borat movie:

[42] MyVoice wrote:

Kick [38]

You do know what "Stuck in the Middle with You" needs, right?

More Cowbell

Remember that!?

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And when Borat is "killing" the coronavirus with the skillet, it sounds like more cowbell! :)

You've got to be kidding. I've got a fever and almost anything would be improved with MORE COWBELL. So I asked Albert Bouchard of Blue Öyster Cult and here are his thoughts: Albert Bouchard.

Oh, my goodness, MV... time for a round of "Name That Tune."

So we're watching the "Borat Subsequent Moviefilm" on Amazon Prime (right now), and Borat is invited to the home of two "Einstein" QAnon nutjobs that are attempting to explain the coronavirus to him. Music begins playing, whereupon Borat picks up a skillet/frypan and begins banging it on the wall attempting to kill the virus.

Your hint is: Cowbell.

Name That Tune!

You misunderstand, that wasn't meant to be used as a clarion call. Sloganeering is about less descriptive lingo.

Blunt is good, blunt-force has to be tempered to accommodate a general audience...

;)

LL&P

Just vote.

LL&P

Remember Keith Olbermann? From the halcyon days of him and Ed Schultz on MSNBC?

Here's a little trip down Worlds Worst... Memory Lane.

How about 'Demagogic Bukkakery'?

*warning* refrain from googling 'bukkake' on your communal home computer. It might become that moment when it all inexplicably went south between you and your loved ones.

Hindsight is a dreadful thing, best to cut off at the pass in the here and now...

LL&P

It's been hours since I posted a Lincoln Project video, this one called Men.

For Lindsay Graham, Big Spender.

For Florida, Mourning in Florida.

For Latinos, Remember El Paso.

Y en español, El Dicta Trump.

And finally, Would the Lincoln Project have Supported Bernie Sanders?

You're welcome!

America, I don't envy your choices. I find them both equally inequitable and shortsighted.

If you really wanted to do yourselves a favour, agree to openly discuss the Elephant in the room before she turns 80... You guessed it, The Military-industrial complex.

This viper in your bosom underpins all your socio-economic concerns, for now, it's happily grazing on your healthcare-for-all dreams, unchecked it might develop a taste for other public institutions.

Wasting billions on traditional arms is redundant when you reach the point of stockpiling. The US currently enjoys a 1:1 ratio with the next ten countries combined in aircraft carriers, the most spendy of all military hardware. What's most telling about American military thinking is, it's two strongest adversaries have 10% of their might...Why the obvious discrepancy, it's simple, it's way cheaper and more effective to design military hardware to rub things out than it is to replace them. Which of course, both the Russians and Chinese have done.

If you can bring your dog to heel, you could put a serious dent in universal healthcare affordability.

LL&P

Trump's makeup and hair often tend to be ...unsubtle?....but last night was off the charts. His face had the color and texture of an orange....and his hair looked like cotton candy.

Great description, TS. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing this yard sign in my neighborhood, but a friend sent me this link: Trumpkin Yard Sign.

https://miro.medium.com/max/603/1*cfBZ0Ed7NnkvM3iI-QARnQ.png

The mute switch threat - and a very effective moderator - kept the event civilized. Will it have any measurable impact on the voters.? I'm guessing no. Debates are are just a little ritual we make up....like Thanksgiving or All Star games.

Biden gave a soild performance, which was all needed to accomplish. The Republicans will attempt to manufacture an oil gaffe from the fact that there is only so much commercially viable oil and gas in the ground. A gaffe is just an unhappy truth.

Sweet dreams of a Democratic Trifecta!

*Left
Coast
Time

Funniest part of the debate was when Trump said that no one, nobody has done more for the Black community other than possibly Abraham Lincoln than I have done for the Black community.

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

I know, right!? Me and my crew couldn't stop laughing. Is Trump really so damn dumb that he didn't realize Biden was making fun of him for continually and constantly comparing himself to Abraham Lincoln over and over ad nauseam!? "I never said I was Abraham Lincoln!" *laughs*

Trump: I never said I was "The Chosen One" as I gazed up at the heavens, and I would never retweet a quote likening myself to the "second coming of God." I never claimed it was Barack Obama who separated children from their families while claiming credit for bringing families back together.

Oh, wait!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMxO9Dp9u4

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Seriously... a whole lot of what was covered in Thursday night's debate reminded me greatly of a White House lawn rant wherein many of the identical topics were covered. It was so downright creepy and all so eerily familiar. #SSDD

I limit my exposure to Trump's spoken word as much as possible in deference to all those poor buggers to whom a pre-existing condition is more than just an involuntary twitch every time Trump regurgitates a porkie.

By minute 45 I found myself trying to explain to my tv that I wasn't interested in the 35-year-old Gran Torino hatchback despite its assurance that the odometer was in fact at 300kmi and not 743kmi, regardless of what my eyes were telling me.

I snapped out of the Trump salesman gesticulation mind trick, rolled and smoked a joint to gather my senses and fed a juicy goldfish to my Piranhas, stopping briefly to name it Donald, a name it didn't have to live with long.

Let it not be so much as breathed that I'm without compassion. I could have named the creature weeks ago, subjecting it to cruel and unusual punishment, like that which I found myself enduring with Trump and his bullshit bazoo, seemed hollow and petty in relation to winding up in a room relative in size to a MacDonalds with two mindless, hideously fanged killing machines the relative size of a Bull Elephants on 'bath salts'.

I digress.

Riddle me this for a lark; Trump spent the last few days, and a few stump stops bemoaning the last debate's 'unfairness and how it was biased and Biden skewed and how mean and inept the moderator would be' and all manner of unTrumpian things unkind. Can he now claim he won, hands down, an event he has already dismissed as hoaxy and rigged? Or should it just be shrugged off as symbolic of the greater disconnect that defines Trump's struggle with reality and his supporter's apparent ambivalence to that struggle?

No matter, Biden carried the day and indeed the entire portion set aside for debate, one could almost feel the collective 'mopping of the brow' wafting from the DNC corner. The Trump corner and its waftings are of no consequence, Trump's body language seemed to suggest futility and the embrace of defeat.

Shine on you crazy diamond.

LL&P

OK... I hate to break it to you but not every Black child is taught that — not that they shouldn’t be taught it... but it’s a little hyperbolic to claim that EVERY Black parent gives their kids this info. One of Devon’s former co-workers who is Black thought we were making up “the TALK” and were just trying to trick him...because he had never heard of it and said that all his parents told him about the police was that if he ever got arrested, he was on his own b/c they weren’t bailing him out. Granted, this was about 6 years ago, but he seriously had no idea what “the Talk” was!

I’d hope every parent has this talk with their kids. Hell, my grandfather WAS a police officer and was the one who wouldn’t let us play with toy guns and whupped my butt when I pretended my fingers were a gun and pointed it at adults I did not know. I was taught from an early age that if someone mistakes my toy gun for a real one, I could be killed. If an officer thinks you are pointing a gun at them, figuring out your racial background really isn’t a high priority!

The oil industry has no future. This is what Biden essentially said and he was right.

And, this might very well have lost the election for him.

Don't be silly. Everybody with a brain knows we have to transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy. Joe didn't lose a single voter with that statement.

And, then Biden said, "Abraham Lincoln over here ..." and then Trump gets all indignant and says I never said I was Abraham Lincoln ...

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Biden could have fought back on that pretty easily without mentioning any names. Ahem.

He could have just said, "Hey, man! I never used that term. It's not in my DNA. You're confusing me with someone else and this presidential campaign with your last one. Try to live in the present!"

And, this might very well have lost the election for him.

I noticed it, too. Trump shut his mouth the second he realized his mic was cut.

And remember how this half-stepping resulted in massive Repug gains in 2010?

Joe has always kept himself in the middle of the Democratic Party. The Party is moving left and Joe will follow if he doesn't want the same results.

"Hope and change" was bullshit because Obama was such a pussy. I hold Obama and the Establishment Democrats responsible for Trump even having a prayer in 2016.

I guess he didn't get the memo that Wall Street has already baked in a Biden victory. The markets will probably rise modestly the day after a Biden victory and beyond.

Let Trump put THAT in his pipe and smoke it.

I believe you're right about that. But, it happened for only a microsecond or two.

Another great Biden line that should resonate with a few people who haven't yet decided but, probably won't.

For the life of me, I have no idea why Biden didn't counter this with: "You are president right now, and you've been president for four years, so all of this is happening on your watch -- what have you done about it?"

Me, neither. I just don't understand it.

Ain't gonna happen.

This was a pretty good attack line.

Biden could have gone on and on and on ... "Some of us have learned what is necessary to control this virus and none of it is rocket science. We are talking about basic public health measures, testing and tracing that, if they had been put in place from the beginning of this crisis back in January, would have saved tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of lives. There was not a national plan of action in January or in February or even in March and April. There is not a national plan to control this virus even today! Why is that Mr. President! Where is the plan that will save American lives and livelihoods!!! How long must we wait for you to implement a national strategy to save the lives of our fellow citizens and get our economy back on track!?"

Ah, but Joe will add a couple/three Supremes to rebalance the SCOTUS. We cannot allow a Repug packed court to stop progress.

I think this was a shrewd move on his part. Sometimes it IS appropriate to fight fire with fire, but Joe demonstrated that taking the high road made him look more mature, more Presidential.

Indeed!

Biden needs the House and Senate cause he ain't got SCOTUS.

"Remember that when your voting for House Representatives and Senators. If you want the car to go backwards, you put it in 'R.' You want the car to go forward, forward to a more perfect union, you put it in 'D.'"

Well, that is a bunch of moosepoop! Ahem. :)

You don't think my attack lines were civil!?

Does Biden want to win this thing, do ya think?

Biden's main job was to run out the election clock and not harm his own candidacy in a big way tonight. He cleared that bar pretty easily, I thought.

Sorry to say but, I couldn't disagree more vehemently if I really wanted to. (picture Biden flashing his pearly whites here)

Biden's main job tonight was to make it crystal clear to voters - all who haven't yet voted, that is, most overwhelmingly of whom are Republican voters, one could surmise - that he is the candidate who is actually capable of making their lives better by, among other things, putting a comprehensive national plan into action to get a very controllable virus under control so that people can get back to their lives and livelihoods. I don't believe I heard any hint of such a comprehensive national plan to control the virus from either candidate this evening which is mind-boggling in the extreme.

It's by design, I think. Biden is trying to "restore civility" so attacking Trump would detract from that theme. I think.

-CW

-CW

That Biden can't come up with a devastating attack line against Trump, of all people, is endlessly mystifying to me. I just don't understand it.

And, more insane still, you don't have a clue much less a plan to replace the Affordable Care Act that you are trying to terminate. How can you do this and be called the president of the United States of America!!!"

Not Biden. It's me, again.

:-)

-CW

I think I'm going to have to start using "malarkey" a lot more when writing... which is a shame, because you know how fond I am of using "moosepoop" instead...

Heh.

-CW

No, Biden didn't say that. That was me yelling at the TV. Ahem.