Comments on: Friday Talking Points -- October Schadenfreudefest http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/ Reality-based political commentary Wed, 13 May 2026 04:47:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: John M http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169888 John M Tue, 06 Oct 2020 14:30:09 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169888 [104] Chris Weigant wrote: "nypoet22 [10] - That's an interesting take. But some of them might face population challenges that DC and PR don't. DC has something like 700K in it -- far more than the 400-500K that Wyoming has -- and PR certainly is above that. But Guam? And the Virgin Islands? Would they even have enough for a minimal House district? I don't know the answer to that, but it'd be worth looking into. Also, don't just assume that they'd all be Democrats, either. The Pacific ones in particular rely on the US military for almost all their money. So it might mean adding GOP senators...." The minimum population for statehood as set by Congress for the Northwest Territory back in the 1780's was 50,000. That law has never been changed. Only Puerto Rico and D.C. have active pro statehood movements from a grassroots origin of their own residents. There was talk from Marin Barry when he was mayor of D.C. of combining the Virgin Islands with D.C. to make a state, since the objection was that D.C. was too small in physical size. But there has never been any indication at all from the people of the Virgin Islands that they are at all interested in changing their tax exempt territorial status. American Samoa are the only territory that are not even American citizens. Because of tribal land ownership rules on the island, they are also not interested in changing their status. There has been talk of American Samoa joining the state of Hawaii, rather than becoming a state by itself, but again that has just been talk. In a 1982 plebiscite, Guam chose by a plurality vote commonwealth status(forty-nine percent). Statehood received twenty-six percent of the vote; status quo ten percent; while free association and independence each received four percent. A runoff chose commonwealth (seventy-three percent) over statehood (twenty-seven percent) as the preferred status. Guam then wrote a commonwealth constitution and petitioned Congress for a change in status. But Congress never took any action and the petition went nowhere. The Northern Mariana Islands are currently a commonwealth, like Puerto Rico. It's people are American citizens. They share both a culture, native language, and racial makeup with the people of Guam, since they are all part of the same island chain. They are much smaller in size though. There has also been talk of combining the the Marianas with Guam as one state, but again it has been just talk, as there is no grassroots push for a further change in status. Also, there is still bad blood lingering between the people of Guam and the Marianas, as Guam supported America during World War 2, and the Marianas supported the Japanese. So we are left with only 2 real prospects for new states: Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. [104] Chris Weigant wrote:

"nypoet22 [10] -

That's an interesting take. But some of them might face population challenges that DC and PR don't. DC has something like 700K in it -- far more than the 400-500K that Wyoming has -- and PR certainly is above that. But Guam? And the Virgin Islands? Would they even have enough for a minimal House district? I don't know the answer to that, but it'd be worth looking into.

Also, don't just assume that they'd all be Democrats, either. The Pacific ones in particular rely on the US military for almost all their money. So it might mean adding GOP senators...."

The minimum population for statehood as set by Congress for the Northwest Territory back in the 1780's was 50,000. That law has never been changed.

Only Puerto Rico and D.C. have active pro statehood movements from a grassroots origin of their own residents.

There was talk from Marin Barry when he was mayor of D.C. of combining the Virgin Islands with D.C. to make a state, since the objection was that D.C. was too small in physical size. But there has never been any indication at all from the people of the Virgin Islands that they are at all interested in changing their tax exempt territorial status.

American Samoa are the only territory that are not even American citizens. Because of tribal land ownership rules on the island, they are also not interested in changing their status. There has been talk of American Samoa joining the state of Hawaii, rather than becoming a state by itself, but again that has just been talk.

In a 1982 plebiscite, Guam chose by a plurality vote commonwealth status(forty-nine percent). Statehood received twenty-six percent of the vote; status quo ten percent; while free association and independence each received four percent. A runoff chose commonwealth (seventy-three percent) over statehood (twenty-seven percent) as the preferred status. Guam then wrote a commonwealth constitution and petitioned Congress for a change in status. But Congress never took any action and the petition went nowhere.

The Northern Mariana Islands are currently a commonwealth, like Puerto Rico. It's people are American citizens. They share both a culture, native language, and racial makeup with the people of Guam, since they are all part of the same island chain. They are much smaller in size though. There has also been talk of combining the the Marianas with Guam as one state, but again it has been just talk, as there is no grassroots push for a further change in status. Also, there is still bad blood lingering between the people of Guam and the Marianas, as Guam supported America during World War 2, and the Marianas supported the Japanese.

So we are left with only 2 real prospects for new states: Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C.

]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169880 Chris Weigant Tue, 06 Oct 2020 05:42:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169880 nypoet22 [10] - That's an interesting take. But some of them might face population challenges that DC and PR don't. DC has something like 700K in it -- far more than the 400-500K that Wyoming has -- and PR certainly is above that. But Guam? And the Virgin Islands? Would they even have enough for a minimal House district? I don't know the answer to that, but it'd be worth looking into. Also, don't just assume that they'd all be Democrats, either. The Pacific ones in particular rely on the US military for almost all their money. So it might mean adding GOP senators.... goode trickle [15] - "Just a song before I go, a lesson to be learned / Traveling twice the speed of sound, it's easy to get burned..." Heh. Kick [21] - Nice link, thanks for the reminder. MtnCaddy [26] - This isn't my original idea. I read an article... oh, probably a month ago... that expressed astonishment that Team Trump hadn't put a MAGA mask up on their site for sale -- it could have brought in $$$ millions for the campaign, and the author called it "political malpractice" not to have taken this obvious step. So the idea is already out there -- and, don't worry, Team Trump hasn't jumped on the idea as a good one, so I doubt they will now. [28] - Really? "Less is more" bass in a "Trash-rock-And-roll-Devil-worship band"?? I would have thought the exact opposite. Heh. Kidding aside, I wrote this for the readers (and you're certainly not the only one) who long for the early days of this column (read any of them with a volume number lower than 100 to see) when the TPs were indeed a lot shorter and snappier. I like short and snappy myself, but sometimes the zinger needs a buildup of context to be effective. Also, in the Trump era, there's just SO MUCH to cover each week that issues that would have been discussed elsewhere in more depth (leading to shorter TPs about them) are pushed aside by OTHER crises of the week. So the TPs are the only place to address them, and I've got to do it "cold." But, like you said, I thought I'd write one FTP column for the purists that love the bumpersticker-length talking points. Glad you enjoyed it! :-) And, yes, I fondly remember cranking out a "Silly Season" introductory column at the start of each August, to explain why the next month would be thin political news -- and long to return to those halcyon days... LizM [31] - <em>Chris Cuomo had a great line tonight ... it's official, there is a cluster in the White House.</em> OK, now THAT was funny! :-) italyrusty [35] - I fully agree, especially considering DiFi is now pretty damn old herself... What was she thinking?!? Alin [39] - <em>Democracy Now</em> played (as a background song) today on their broadcast "Karma Chameleon"... heh... I would've gone with "Instant Karma" myself... Kick [55] - Well done! Huzzah!!! italyrusty [62] - Oh, you can bet this is in the running for next week's MDDOTW. Couldn't believe the disappointment I felt when I saw it... sigh.... Don Harris [100] - No, it becomes "General Hospital One," because Trump's always about the teevee ratings, even on daytime teevee... Heh. OK, that's it for this week... -CW nypoet22 [10] -

That's an interesting take. But some of them might face population challenges that DC and PR don't. DC has something like 700K in it -- far more than the 400-500K that Wyoming has -- and PR certainly is above that. But Guam? And the Virgin Islands? Would they even have enough for a minimal House district? I don't know the answer to that, but it'd be worth looking into.

Also, don't just assume that they'd all be Democrats, either. The Pacific ones in particular rely on the US military for almost all their money. So it might mean adding GOP senators....

goode trickle [15] -

"Just a song before I go, a lesson to be learned / Traveling twice the speed of sound, it's easy to get burned..."

Heh.

Kick [21] -

Nice link, thanks for the reminder.

MtnCaddy [26] -

This isn't my original idea. I read an article... oh, probably a month ago... that expressed astonishment that Team Trump hadn't put a MAGA mask up on their site for sale -- it could have brought in $$$ millions for the campaign, and the author called it "political malpractice" not to have taken this obvious step. So the idea is already out there -- and, don't worry, Team Trump hasn't jumped on the idea as a good one, so I doubt they will now.

[28] -

Really? "Less is more" bass in a "Trash-rock-And-roll-Devil-worship band"?? I would have thought the exact opposite.

Heh.

Kidding aside, I wrote this for the readers (and you're certainly not the only one) who long for the early days of this column (read any of them with a volume number lower than 100 to see) when the TPs were indeed a lot shorter and snappier.

I like short and snappy myself, but sometimes the zinger needs a buildup of context to be effective.

Also, in the Trump era, there's just SO MUCH to cover each week that issues that would have been discussed elsewhere in more depth (leading to shorter TPs about them) are pushed aside by OTHER crises of the week. So the TPs are the only place to address them, and I've got to do it "cold."

But, like you said, I thought I'd write one FTP column for the purists that love the bumpersticker-length talking points. Glad you enjoyed it!

:-)

And, yes, I fondly remember cranking out a "Silly Season" introductory column at the start of each August, to explain why the next month would be thin political news -- and long to return to those halcyon days...

LizM [31] -

Chris Cuomo had a great line tonight ... it's official, there is a cluster in the White House.

OK, now THAT was funny!

:-)

italyrusty [35] -

I fully agree, especially considering DiFi is now pretty damn old herself...

What was she thinking?!?

Alin [39] -

Democracy Now played (as a background song) today on their broadcast "Karma Chameleon"... heh...

I would've gone with "Instant Karma" myself...

Kick [55] -

Well done! Huzzah!!!

italyrusty [62] -

Oh, you can bet this is in the running for next week's MDDOTW. Couldn't believe the disappointment I felt when I saw it... sigh....

Don Harris [100] -

No, it becomes "General Hospital One," because Trump's always about the teevee ratings, even on daytime teevee...

Heh.

OK, that's it for this week...

-CW

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169877 MtnCaddy Tue, 06 Oct 2020 00:15:24 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169877 [100] Don Harris wrote: <i> If any plane the president is on becomes Air Force One, does Walter Reed Hospital become Walter Kant-Read Hospital when Trump is there?</i> *sigh* THE BEST THING about these troubled times is that they bring out the Wickedly Spot-on Political Commedian within you, Brother Don. I must cry out, "Hosanna, Brother Don, hosanna! <b>THIS is what YOU should be doing...not OD!"</b> Think this through with me, Bruh: We both know that OD is fundamentally a good idea. You disagree with me that it needs refining, whatever. But...because there are thousands of Americans who think likewise about OD... Let them apply THEIR talents to OD. You outta refine YOUR special talent for standup or written political comedy, eh? [100]

Don Harris wrote:


If any plane the president is on becomes Air Force One, does Walter Reed Hospital become Walter Kant-Read Hospital when Trump is there?

*sigh*
THE BEST THING about these troubled times is that they bring out the Wickedly Spot-on Political Commedian within you, Brother Don. I must cry out, "Hosanna, Brother Don, hosanna!

THIS is what YOU should be doing...not OD!"

Think this through with me, Bruh: We both know that OD is fundamentally a good idea. You disagree with me that it needs refining, whatever. But...because there are thousands of Americans who think likewise about OD...

Let them apply THEIR talents to OD. You outta refine YOUR special talent for standup or written political comedy, eh?

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169876 MtnCaddy Mon, 05 Oct 2020 23:37:41 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169876 This, <i>at once both depressing and hopeful,</i> from an Atlantic article <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/collapsing-levels-trust-are-devastating-america/616581/" rel="nofollow">Trust Is Collapsing in America.</a> I'll let y'all know how the article turned out, I guess... <i>When you look back on it from the vantage of 2020, moral freedom, like the other dominant values of the time, contained within it a core assumption: If everybody does their own thing, then everything will work out for everybody. If everybody pursues their own economic self-interest, then the economy will thrive for all. If everybody chooses their own family style, then children will prosper. If each individual chooses his or her own moral code, then people will still feel solidarity with one another and be decent to one another. This was an ideology of maximum freedom and minimum sacrifice. It all looks naive now. We were naive about what the globalized economy would do to the working class, naive to think the internet would bring us together, naive to think the global mixing of people would breed harmony, naive to think the privileged wouldn’t pull up the ladders of opportunity behind them. We didn’t predict that oligarchs would steal entire nations, or that demagogues from Turkey to the U.S. would ignite ethnic hatreds. We didn’t see that a hyper-competitive global meritocracy would effectively turn all of childhood into elite travel sports where a few privileged performers get to play and everyone else gets left behind.</i> This, at once both depressing and hopeful, from an Atlantic article Trust Is Collapsing in America.

I'll let y'all know how the article turned out, I guess...

When you look back on it from the vantage of 2020, moral freedom, like the other dominant values of the time, contained within it a core assumption: If everybody does their own thing, then everything will work out for everybody. If everybody pursues their own economic self-interest, then the economy will thrive for all. If everybody chooses their own family style, then children will prosper. If each individual chooses his or her own moral code, then people will still feel solidarity with one another and be decent to one another. This was an ideology of maximum freedom and minimum sacrifice.

It all looks naive now. We were naive about what the globalized economy would do to the working class, naive to think the internet would bring us together, naive to think the global mixing of people would breed harmony, naive to think the privileged wouldn’t pull up the ladders of opportunity behind them. We didn’t predict that oligarchs would steal entire nations, or that demagogues from Turkey to the U.S. would ignite ethnic hatreds. We didn’t see that a hyper-competitive global meritocracy would effectively turn all of childhood into elite travel sports where a few privileged performers get to play and everyone else gets left behind.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169874 MtnCaddy Mon, 05 Oct 2020 18:41:09 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169874 Heya Elizabeth! This, from an Atlantic article <a href="//www.politico.com/news/2020/10/05/republicans-dread-coronavirus-infections-426351" rel="nofollow"> Republicans gripped by dread as multiple crises swirl.</a> <i>A senior Republican congressional official spoke for many by arguing that the handling of the issue over the weekend was “incredibly worrying,” but that it was too early to judge whether the issue further jeopardizes Trump’s reelection chances, the Barrett nomination or GOP control of the Senate. “Do people show sympathy because he’s sick and is trying to battle through this?” he asked. “Or do they say, ‘You’re the president and if you had taken common sense precautions there’s no way you would have gotten sick.’ If it becomes, ‘You are reckless and this is the metaphor for how reckless he was,’ then we’re facing a tsunami. But it’s too early.” The official added one caveat, a scenario that he believed would crush the GOP on Nov. 3. If the White House lied about the timeline and he went to events and was around people knowing he was Covid-positive,” he said. “I think that is the single biggest thing that would resonate with regular people in terms of how irresponsible he was — if he put other people in danger.” He added, “That could turn this into a death spiral.”</i> Heya Elizabeth! This, from an Atlantic article
Republicans gripped by dread as multiple crises swirl.

A senior Republican congressional official spoke for many by arguing that the handling of the issue over the weekend was “incredibly worrying,” but that it was too early to judge whether the issue further jeopardizes Trump’s reelection chances, the Barrett nomination or GOP control of the Senate.

“Do people show sympathy because he’s sick and is trying to battle through this?” he asked. “Or do they say, ‘You’re the president and if you had taken common sense precautions there’s no way you would have gotten sick.’ If it becomes, ‘You are reckless and this is the metaphor for how reckless he was,’ then we’re facing a tsunami. But it’s too early.”

The official added one caveat, a scenario that he believed would crush the GOP on Nov. 3.

If the White House lied about the timeline and he went to events and was around people knowing he was Covid-positive,” he said. “I think that is the single biggest thing that would resonate with regular people in terms of how irresponsible he was — if he put other people in danger.”

He added, “That could turn this into a death spiral.”

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169873 ListenWhenYouHear Mon, 05 Oct 2020 18:32:07 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169873 Trump’s putting the Secret Service agents lives at risk with his disregarding his need to be quarantined as long as he is infected. His drive-by rally in front of Walter Reed was just to feed his hungry ego and put his agents lives at risk. They should demand full hazmat suits with respirators be worn as long as he is infected. If that isn’t allowed, they might as well not wear their Kevlar vests... those things are useless against the real threat. Trump’s putting the Secret Service agents lives at risk with his disregarding his need to be quarantined as long as he is infected. His drive-by rally in front of Walter Reed was just to feed his hungry ego and put his agents lives at risk. They should demand full hazmat suits with respirators be worn as long as he is infected. If that isn’t allowed, they might as well not wear their Kevlar vests... those things are useless against the real threat.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169872 MtnCaddy Mon, 05 Oct 2020 17:39:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169872 <a href="https://youtu.be/2zLpaUcubHM" rel="nofollow">Our Fight</a> Our Fight

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169871 MtnCaddy Mon, 05 Oct 2020 17:36:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169871 ***Dept. of Lincoln Project*** <a href="https://youtu.be/WTXACJ7VrGU" rel="nofollow">Submission</a> Gee, I didn't know that LP takes on Repug Senators in Alaska ***Dept. of Lincoln Project***

Submission

Gee, I didn't know that LP takes on Repug Senators in Alaska

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169870 MtnCaddy Mon, 05 Oct 2020 05:26:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169870 Yeppers, Elizabeth. You do the same. Yeppers, Elizabeth. You do the same.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169869 MtnCaddy Mon, 05 Oct 2020 05:25:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169869 ***Dept. of Lincoln Project*** <a href="https://youtu.be/2zLpaUcubHM" rel="nofollow">Our Fight</a> ***Dept. of Lincoln Project***

Our Fight

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169868 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 04:48:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169868 Very fine and impressive choices, MtnCaddy! :) I couldn't get all of them in tonight so, the rest will have to wait for another Sunday night ... Take good care and stay safe! Very fine and impressive choices, MtnCaddy! :)

I couldn't get all of them in tonight so, the rest will have to wait for another Sunday night ...

Take good care and stay safe!

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169867 MtnCaddy Mon, 05 Oct 2020 04:25:38 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169867 [87] C'mon. That's such a difficult question, hello? The best I think I can do is narrow it down to my Top Two. Knowing I'll hate myself the moment I hit Submit Comment. Rush. Neil Young. Neil Young. Rush. [87]

C'mon. That's such a difficult question, hello? The best I think I can do is narrow it down to my Top Two. Knowing I'll hate myself the moment I hit Submit Comment.

Rush. Neil Young.
Neil Young. Rush.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169866 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 02:31:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169866 And, in keeping with the Canadian Americana theme, Tom Sawyer ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auLBLk4ibAk And, in keeping with the Canadian Americana theme, Tom Sawyer ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auLBLk4ibAk

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169865 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 02:11:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169865 American music, You can hear it all over the world. Right now, somewhere, this minute there's a radio playin' on, And it's playin' that rhythm and blues, hot dresses and high heeled shoes, with the Ikettes kickin' and the Four Tops singin' that Same Old Song ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgkFjisCqM American music, You can hear it all over the world. Right now, somewhere, this minute there's a radio playin' on, And it's playin' that rhythm and blues, hot dresses and high heeled shoes, with the Ikettes kickin' and the Four Tops singin' that Same Old Song ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgkFjisCqM

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169864 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 02:00:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169864 Gowan's A Criminal Mind is Canadian Classic. And, since Lawrence joined Styx in 1999 following the departure of Dennis deYoung, A Criminal Mind gets a second life as a Styx song ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ceiyHuW-JQ Gowan's A Criminal Mind is Canadian Classic. And, since Lawrence joined Styx in 1999 following the departure of Dennis deYoung, A Criminal Mind gets a second life as a Styx song ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ceiyHuW-JQ

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169863 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 01:40:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169863 Well, I guess I should throw in a couple or three of my favourite Prism tunes ... Here comes Another World - change is comin' if not another generation. Heh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueq6F40zsF8&list=RDUeq6F40zsF8&start_radio=1&t=1 Well, I guess I should throw in a couple or three of my favourite Prism tunes ...

Here comes Another World - change is comin' if not another generation. Heh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueq6F40zsF8&list=RDUeq6F40zsF8&start_radio=1&t=1

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169862 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 01:16:44 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169862 You guys must have a favourite Canadian band ... MtnCaddy!? You guys must have a favourite Canadian band ... MtnCaddy!?

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169861 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:56:31 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169861 Please Forgive Me ... back to the west coast with Bryan Adams ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x8wPt8xarE&list=PL54D3F57300A406FA Who let the dog in? Please Forgive Me ... back to the west coast with Bryan Adams ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x8wPt8xarE&list=PL54D3F57300A406FA

Who let the dog in?

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169860 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:49:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169860 Who doesn't love Trimuph. No, not THAT Triumph. I mean the hard rockin' guitars and Don't Waste My Time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkx47Zsyicc&list=RDBZUrr5wThb0&index=10 Who doesn't love Trimuph. No, not THAT Triumph. I mean the hard rockin' guitars and Don't Waste My Time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkx47Zsyicc&list=RDBZUrr5wThb0&index=10

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169859 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:40:10 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169859 Here's a great review of Homegrown in Variety ... https://variety.com/2020/music/reviews/neil-young-homegrown-album-review-1234642820/#article-comments Here's a great review of Homegrown in Variety ...

https://variety.com/2020/music/reviews/neil-young-homegrown-album-review-1234642820/#article-comments

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169858 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:38:54 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169858 Kansas is a great track from Neil Young's newly released 45-year-old album, Homegrown ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQft4Oos3Aw Homegrown is an essential addition to your Neil Young collection, by the way. :) Kansas is a great track from Neil Young's newly released 45-year-old album, Homegrown ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQft4Oos3Aw

Homegrown is an essential addition to your Neil Young collection, by the way. :)

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169857 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:35:23 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169857 <i>Do I have a song for that post at [69]?</i> Why, yes. Yes you do! Do I have a song for that post at [69]?

Why, yes. Yes you do!

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169856 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:12:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169856 We can't forget the prairies so here is Tom Cochrane of Red Rider fame doing Life is a Highway ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3sMjm9Eloo&list=RDU3sMjm9Eloo&start_radio=1&t=0 We can't forget the prairies so here is Tom Cochrane of Red Rider fame doing Life is a Highway ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3sMjm9Eloo&list=RDU3sMjm9Eloo&start_radio=1&t=0

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169855 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:06:49 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169855 I think I can top that, JTC, with something from the Mother country ... can you believe we're going to have to wait until April for No Time To Die. Sigh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BboMpayJomw I think I can top that, JTC, with something from the Mother country ... can you believe we're going to have to wait until April for No Time To Die. Sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BboMpayJomw

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169854 James T Canuck Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:56:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169854 Cheery little number... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eruW1KHcxc LL&P Cheery little number...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eruW1KHcxc

LL&P

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169853 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:52:52 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169853 Back to the west coast with Chilliwack and one of their biggest hits on both sides of the border ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yahBtp_1jWE Back to the west coast with Chilliwack and one of their biggest hits on both sides of the border ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yahBtp_1jWE

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169852 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:39:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169852 One might say that Blue Rodeo, formed in Toronto, is the Canadian version of the Eagles. In any case, here is one of my favourite Blue Rodeo tunes, Try ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkMaBy6EX0w&list=RDhkMaBy6EX0w&start_radio=1&t=18 One might say that Blue Rodeo, formed in Toronto, is the Canadian version of the Eagles. In any case, here is one of my favourite Blue Rodeo tunes, Try ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkMaBy6EX0w&list=RDhkMaBy6EX0w&start_radio=1&t=18

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169851 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:28:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169851 Who's your favourite Canadian band ... I'm taking requests! :) And, I need another drink ... who's tending bar this evening ... Who's your favourite Canadian band ... I'm taking requests! :)

And, I need another drink ... who's tending bar this evening ...

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169850 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:27:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169850 Tonight is a wonderful time to fall in love with April Wine as we travel all the way over to the east coast and Nova Scotia ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KefAFkvU8tE&list=RDiDeGiGJsiq8&index=24 Tonight is a wonderful time to fall in love with April Wine as we travel all the way over to the east coast and Nova Scotia ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KefAFkvU8tE&list=RDiDeGiGJsiq8&index=24

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169849 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:22:13 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169849 I'm feelin' kinda patriotic tonight so it's all Canadian, all the time. We have been blessed with some of the best artists in the world so, this could be a long night! Here is Corey Hart as me move from the west coast to Montreal and Never Surrender ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4pg6Jh94Lo&list=RDiDeGiGJsiq8&index=23 I'm feelin' kinda patriotic tonight so it's all Canadian, all the time. We have been blessed with some of the best artists in the world so, this could be a long night!

Here is Corey Hart as me move from the west coast to Montreal and Never Surrender ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4pg6Jh94Lo&list=RDiDeGiGJsiq8&index=23

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169848 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:11:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169848 I'm guessing that the American people have had it up to their eyeballs so let's raise a little hell with Trooper ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG_brDZoLAs I'm guessing that the American people have had it up to their eyeballs so let's raise a little hell with Trooper ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG_brDZoLAs

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169847 Kick Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:10:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169847 Be nice, JFC ;) The Rolling Stones <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgnClrx8N2k" rel="nofollow">Sympathy For The Devil</a> Be nice, JFC ;)

The Rolling Stones

Sympathy For The Devil

]]> By: John From Censornati http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169846 John From Censornati Sun, 04 Oct 2020 22:42:17 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169846 I imagine that the orange one has a bad case of the Coronavirus Blues, so here’s: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxSzQu91fLU" rel="nofollow"><B>Serves You Right To Suffer</B></a> I imagine that the orange one has a bad case of the Coronavirus Blues, so here’s:

Serves You Right To Suffer

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169845 Kick Sun, 04 Oct 2020 22:41:09 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169845 Do I have a song for that post at [69]? <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JofwEB9g1zg" rel="nofollow">Keep Yourself Alive</a> Fun Fact: Microsoft Surface Duo uses the intro to "Keep Yourself Alive" in their current commercial: <a href="https://www.ispot.tv/ad/n3Sc/microsoft-surface-duo-a-new-way-to-get-things-done-song-by-queen" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Commercial</a> Do I have a song for that post at [69]?

Keep Yourself Alive

Fun Fact: Microsoft Surface Duo uses the intro to "Keep Yourself Alive" in their current commercial:

Microsoft Commercial

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169844 Kick Sun, 04 Oct 2020 22:27:38 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169844 ListenWhenYouHear 54 <i>Oh, be patient...his time will come...well, if he lives through this it will! </i> Heh. Here's hoping they'll all be fine for their multiple future court dates. <i>I cannot decide if we should believe that Trump is doing much better or much worse than how they are telling us he is doing! </i> He can't be sick if it's all a "Democrat hoax" designed to ruin his reelection, right? He's such a lying piece of horseshit. We expect politicians to spin the facts, but a POTUS who is a pathologically lying con artist who will lie about anything and everything, even dumb things like crowd size? Pathetic. Trump will now use his COVID-19 infection to claim his expertise in all things regarding SARS-CoV-2 and spin whatever story he thinks will win him reelection. Count on it. It's sad that the gullible Trumpanzees will fall in line like useful idiots and believe and repeat whatever bullshit he spews out of the Orange Blowhole like the unreasoning rubes they are. Remember how the Right wingers used to refer to Michelle Obama as "Mooch"? At least she paid income taxes for decades and still does. Trump? Hasn't been paying taxes because he shows massive business loses year after year for decades yet still claims to be a "great businessman." Trump is the real "Mooch" who actually doesn't put America first because he cheats on his taxes... just like everything else he does. <i>If he is reported to have died, I bet the family will move to have him cremated immediately... that way an urn of sand from one of his golf courses can lay in state while Trump makes a run for it! </i> He won't die... because Moocher Trump has the best healthcare that our tax dollars can buy. <i>I realize that this sounds silly, but you know that Trump remembers the ratings that OJ pulled when he had Al Cowlings try to make a run for the border in the white Bronco...if he’s going down, then THAT is the way Trump will want to go down! </i> You're right. How does Moocher Trump not get in his SUV and go for a drive with the world watching? Seems like something he'd definitely do for attention. <i>If he truly is sick, with the off-the-charts level of narcissism that he suffers from, Trump will be even worse at being a patient than he has been at being president. He’s used to having doctors who will lie to him to stroke his ego. I actually feel sorry for those having to reassure him every five minutes that he isn’t dead... yet. </i> You saw his doctors already lying for him and having to correct the record. Same shit, different day. Big hugs. Keep your ass safe. :) ListenWhenYouHear
54

Oh, be patient...his time will come...well, if he lives through this it will!

Heh. Here's hoping they'll all be fine for their multiple future court dates.

I cannot decide if we should believe that Trump is doing much better or much worse than how they are telling us he is doing!

He can't be sick if it's all a "Democrat hoax" designed to ruin his reelection, right? He's such a lying piece of horseshit. We expect politicians to spin the facts, but a POTUS who is a pathologically lying con artist who will lie about anything and everything, even dumb things like crowd size? Pathetic.

Trump will now use his COVID-19 infection to claim his expertise in all things regarding SARS-CoV-2 and spin whatever story he thinks will win him reelection. Count on it. It's sad that the gullible Trumpanzees will fall in line like useful idiots and believe and repeat whatever bullshit he spews out of the Orange Blowhole like the unreasoning rubes they are.

Remember how the Right wingers used to refer to Michelle Obama as "Mooch"? At least she paid income taxes for decades and still does. Trump? Hasn't been paying taxes because he shows massive business loses year after year for decades yet still claims to be a "great businessman." Trump is the real "Mooch" who actually doesn't put America first because he cheats on his taxes... just like everything else he does.

If he is reported to have died, I bet the family will move to have him cremated immediately... that way an urn of sand from one of his golf courses can lay in state while Trump makes a run for it!

He won't die... because Moocher Trump has the best healthcare that our tax dollars can buy.

I realize that this sounds silly, but you know that Trump remembers the ratings that OJ pulled when he had Al Cowlings try to make a run for the border in the white Bronco...if he’s going down, then THAT is the way Trump will want to go down!

You're right. How does Moocher Trump not get in his SUV and go for a drive with the world watching? Seems like something he'd definitely do for attention.

If he truly is sick, with the off-the-charts level of narcissism that he suffers from, Trump will be even worse at being a patient than he has been at being president. He’s used to having doctors who will lie to him to stroke his ego. I actually feel sorry for those having to reassure him every five minutes that he isn’t dead... yet.

You saw his doctors already lying for him and having to correct the record. Same shit, different day.

Big hugs. Keep your ass safe. :)

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169843 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 22:10:52 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169843 Are we all ready for the <b>CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party</b>! There'll be plenty of time tomorrow to cover the idiocy in the WH. I have to grab the usual salmon dinner first, then I'll be back with some great Canadian bands! Are we all ready for the CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party!

There'll be plenty of time tomorrow to cover the idiocy in the WH.

I have to grab the usual salmon dinner first, then I'll be back with some great Canadian bands!

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169842 MtnCaddy Sun, 04 Oct 2020 21:35:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169842 Dunno if I posted these Lincoln Project vids, <a href="https://youtu.be/LM3dMJNOFiA" rel="nofollow">Focus Group,</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/b5aM6W2HR_E" rel="nofollow">The Collapse,</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/KMtfAySJWJo" rel="nofollow">I'm Smart.</a> Enjoy, Weigantia! Dunno if I posted these Lincoln Project vids, Focus Group, The Collapse, and I'm Smart.

Enjoy, Weigantia!

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169841 MtnCaddy Sun, 04 Oct 2020 19:20:20 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169841 [49] Good read, Mopshell! I'll look for your work when I seek out my weekly <a href="//www.dailykos.com/story/2020/9/28/1980687/-Cartoon-The-unbelievable-Trump" rel="nofollow">This Modern World</a> fix. [49]

Good read, Mopshell! I'll look for your work when I seek out my weekly This Modern World fix.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169840 TheStig Sun, 04 Oct 2020 16:44:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169840 From The Washington examiner: Meadows added that Trump has made "unbelievable improvements from yesterday morning." Chief of Staff Meadows is correct - I don't believe a word of it. Give some hard data to back this rosy assessment up, or just shut up. From The Washington examiner:

Meadows added that Trump has made "unbelievable improvements from yesterday morning."

Chief of Staff Meadows is correct - I don't believe a word of it. Give some hard data to back this rosy assessment up, or just shut up.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169839 TheStig Sun, 04 Oct 2020 14:17:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169839 A joke from the Nixon era fits Trump like a piece of Lego fits into another piece of Lego: "What did the President know and when did he stop knowing it? " I have finally tracked where I first heard it : National Lampoon Lemming Review. A joke from the Nixon era fits Trump like a piece of Lego fits into another piece of Lego:

"What did the President know and when did he stop knowing it? "

I have finally tracked where I first heard it : National Lampoon Lemming Review.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169838 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 13:09:14 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169838 Seriously? Seriously?

]]> By: italyrusty http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169837 italyrusty Sun, 04 Oct 2020 07:26:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169837 Late-breaking news provides another nominee for MDDOW: 'A story published by the website NationalFile.com indicates Cunningham, who is running against Republican Sen. Thom Tillis, "engaged in the extramarital activity with the wife of a fellow veteran." The website identified the woman as Arlene Guzman Todd. Her husband is Jeremy Todd, who served 15 years in the Army, according to information from website said. Cunningham is married to Elizabeth Cunningham and has two children. He said in a statement that he will not drop out of the Senate race.' https://www.wral.com/cal-cunningham-admits-to-sexual-messages-with-calif-woman-will-stay-in-senate-race/19318069/ Late-breaking news provides another nominee for MDDOW:
'A story published by the website NationalFile.com indicates Cunningham, who is running against Republican Sen. Thom Tillis, "engaged in the extramarital activity with the wife of a fellow veteran."

The website identified the woman as Arlene Guzman Todd. Her husband is Jeremy Todd, who served 15 years in the Army, according to information from website said.

Cunningham is married to Elizabeth Cunningham and has two children. He said in a statement that he will not drop out of the Senate race.'
https://www.wral.com/cal-cunningham-admits-to-sexual-messages-with-calif-woman-will-stay-in-senate-race/19318069/

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169836 Elizabeth Miller Sun, 04 Oct 2020 05:59:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169836 Actually, what it comes down to is that Biden was too close to Trump to not quarantine for two weeks. Actually, what it comes down to is that Biden was too close to Trump to not quarantine for two weeks.

]]> By: goode trickle http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169834 goode trickle Sun, 04 Oct 2020 03:47:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169834 To quarantine or not to quarantine that is the question. It all boils down to the testing regimen, we do not know exactly what testing Biden, Pence and the WH complex are using. Is it strictly the rapid tests? or are they using the rapid tests to cover off on daily testing with weekly or bi-weekly PCR lab tests? I would hope they are not relying on the rapid tests alone, but rather are using a combination of lab tests and rapid tests to achieve results that guarantee the virus is caught before shedding occurs. Two important factors are at play here assuming they are using both types of tests. First is the rapid test, given that the government is being rather opaque, we do not know what product they are using so the assumption we are left to go with is that out of the 10 rapid antigen tests that hold EUA approval we are forced to assume that they are using either the Abbott labs ID NOW or the BD Veritor systems as they are the only two on the market that are readily available, the tests from Quidel, Cephid, Mesa and Abbott BINAXNOW are all bought up by the HHS through the end of the year. The other 5 tests I have not named here suffer from being either very expensive or have accuracy issues. Given the choice of the ID Now or the Veritor tests the ID Now platform wins as it has a accuracy and sensitivity rate that is 95% or better and skews towards delivering false positives (yes, it received some bad press but when used as directed, swab and analyze none of the buffer crap, it is highly accurate). The Veritor system only has an accuracy rate of 84% and again skews towards false positive results. It is important to note that with any of the rapid test products if a positive test result happens a follow on PCR lab test should be administered and the individual should isolate until the return of PCR lab test results return a negative. and if you want to really go overboard a second PCR test should be administered 48 hours after the first negative result is returned. Let's do some givens here: debate was the 29th, depending on the actual first positive of trump it was either the 30th or the 2nd ( I lean towards rapid test results on the 30th, PCR confirmation on the 2nd, it would be within the timeframe for a big lab to return results ). WH opaque information sharing makes it impossible to identify P-0 for the WH cluster. In either case it is highly probable that trump was not shedding at the debate, but, again we do not know the testing regime. So... Let's move on to responses. Pence, who the heck knows... He should isolate or come clean about his testing regimen. I lean towards isolate as he has been in close proximity to positive individuals in multiple circumstances and for enough time to have been given the 'Rona. I am going to make the assumption here that his team is relying on the rapid test results VS. a PCR lab test result and that they are not employing a dedicated small lab to get quick (6 to 8 hour) PCR results. This means that once a rapid test shows positive he could already be a spreader. Biden on the other hand has press alluding to rapid testing for those in close proximity to him on a regular basis, unfortunately they have also been less than transparent about their response plans. If he has had a PCR LAB test 48 hours after potential exposure then I lean towards letting him run about. But, if they are relying on rapid tests, this means that once a rapid test shows positive he could already be a spreader and should isolate. Given Biden's age and embrace of science I suspect that he is employing the combination method. The takeaway here is, find a lab that can return PCR results utilizing what I call the big kids PCR tests within 6 to 8 hours at a cost of 80 to 225 bucks. Support that with daily or every other day rapid tests to certify health status in a way that minimizes infection vectors. At the end of the day both sides now need to come clean about their COVID protocols vis a vie campaign appearances. From what is publicly facing, one side has a better plan than the other. To quarantine or not to quarantine that is the question.

It all boils down to the testing regimen, we do not know exactly what testing Biden, Pence and the WH complex are using. Is it strictly the rapid tests? or are they using the rapid tests to cover off on daily testing with weekly or bi-weekly PCR lab tests?

I would hope they are not relying on the rapid tests alone, but rather are using a combination of lab tests and rapid tests to achieve results that guarantee the virus is caught before shedding occurs.

Two important factors are at play here assuming they are using both types of tests. First is the rapid test, given that the government is being rather opaque, we do not know what product they are using so the assumption we are left to go with is that out of the 10 rapid antigen tests that hold EUA approval we are forced to assume that they are using either the Abbott labs ID NOW or the BD Veritor systems as they are the only two on the market that are readily available, the tests from Quidel, Cephid, Mesa and Abbott BINAXNOW are all bought up by the HHS through the end of the year. The other 5 tests I have not named here suffer from being either very expensive or have accuracy issues.

Given the choice of the ID Now or the Veritor tests the ID Now platform wins as it has a accuracy and sensitivity rate that is 95% or better and skews towards delivering false positives (yes, it received some bad press but when used as directed, swab and analyze none of the buffer crap, it is highly accurate). The Veritor system only has an accuracy rate of 84% and again skews towards false positive results. It is important to note that with any of the rapid test products if a positive test result happens a follow on PCR lab test should be administered and the individual should isolate until the return of PCR lab test results return a negative. and if you want to really go overboard a second PCR test should be administered 48 hours after the first negative result is returned.

Let's do some givens here: debate was the 29th, depending on the actual first positive of trump it was either the 30th or the 2nd ( I lean towards rapid test results on the 30th, PCR confirmation on the 2nd, it would be within the timeframe for a big lab to return results ). WH opaque information sharing makes it impossible to identify P-0 for the WH cluster. In either case it is highly probable that trump was not shedding at the debate, but, again we do not know the testing regime.

So... Let's move on to responses.

Pence, who the heck knows... He should isolate or come clean about his testing regimen. I lean towards isolate as he has been in close proximity to positive individuals in multiple circumstances and for enough time to have been given the 'Rona. I am going to make the assumption here that his team is relying on the rapid test results VS. a PCR lab test result and that they are not employing a dedicated small lab to get quick (6 to 8 hour) PCR results. This means that once a rapid test shows positive he could already be a spreader.

Biden on the other hand has press alluding to rapid testing for those in close proximity to him on a regular basis, unfortunately they have also been less than transparent about their response plans. If he has had a PCR LAB test 48 hours after potential exposure then I lean towards letting him run about. But, if they are relying on rapid tests, this means that once a rapid test shows positive he could already be a spreader and should isolate. Given Biden's age and embrace of science I suspect that he is employing the combination method.

The takeaway here is, find a lab that can return PCR results utilizing what I call the big kids PCR tests within 6 to 8 hours at a cost of 80 to 225 bucks. Support that with daily or every other day rapid tests to certify health status in a way that minimizes infection vectors.

At the end of the day both sides now need to come clean about their COVID protocols vis a vie campaign appearances. From what is publicly facing, one side has a better plan than the other.

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169833 James T Canuck Sun, 04 Oct 2020 03:34:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169833 Darwin will take it from here, folks... Thanks for coming out. LL&P Darwin will take it from here, folks...

Thanks for coming out.

LL&P

]]> By: John M from Ct. http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169832 John M from Ct. Sun, 04 Oct 2020 00:21:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169832 As to [56] by Listen... It's properly conspiratorial, but once again the theory makes the error of thinking of the president as if he were a normal human being who is talented enough to be president. In short, what "knowledge of national secrets"? What stuff that "Trump knows"? What, do you think he was listening to those briefings? Do you think he understood them, to the degree that he was listening? Do you think the North Koreans and Russians haven't long ago assessed him as a hopeless imbecile when it comes to technical or complicated knowledge? Do you think they don't realize that he will probably lie to them and/or blithely BS them during the debriefings? Your conclusion, then, makes more sense than its build-up. He's worth nothing to them, and his being forced to stand trial and serve time in the U.S. would be way more demoralizing to our country than their accepting him as a turncoat refugee from justice. As to [56] by Listen...
It's properly conspiratorial, but once again the theory makes the error of thinking of the president as if he were a normal human being who is talented enough to be president.

In short, what "knowledge of national secrets"? What stuff that "Trump knows"?

What, do you think he was listening to those briefings? Do you think he understood them, to the degree that he was listening? Do you think the North Koreans and Russians haven't long ago assessed him as a hopeless imbecile when it comes to technical or complicated knowledge? Do you think they don't realize that he will probably lie to them and/or blithely BS them during the debriefings?

Your conclusion, then, makes more sense than its build-up. He's worth nothing to them, and his being forced to stand trial and serve time in the U.S. would be way more demoralizing to our country than their accepting him as a turncoat refugee from justice.

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169831 ListenWhenYouHear Sat, 03 Oct 2020 21:09:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169831 The Stig [22] <I> Trump wasn't tested before the debate.</i> Makes you wonder if his late arrival to the debate was not done intentionally to avoid being tested, doesn’t it? It always makes me a little sad to say that and know that it’s not being said hyperbolically. The Stig [22]

Trump wasn't tested before the debate.

Makes you wonder if his late arrival to the debate was not done intentionally to avoid being tested, doesn’t it?

It always makes me a little sad to say that and know that it’s not being said hyperbolically.

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169830 ListenWhenYouHear Sat, 03 Oct 2020 20:58:47 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169830 SF Bear, Thanks for the comment! It just all seems too convenient for all of this to happen immediately after Trump’s last opportunity to knock Biden down in the polls by getting him to screw up and make a badly worded comment that can easily be twisted and used against him failed to happen! Especially when you consider that it was Trump whose comments were so damning to his own hopes for re-election that were the main take away from the debate. Dropping out before the election is the only way Trump can avoid losing the election. He can blame the virus and he can laugh at Pence when he loses — just as long as he does not lose. The more I have been discussing Trump’s exit strategy with others, the more I have come to realize that Trump’s gonna have to use his knowledge of our national secrets to try to buy himself a safe place to hide out. It’s the only thing of value that Trump has to offer that might outweigh the fury that our nation will unleash on whoever offers him refuge. I cannot see Saudi Arabia being willing to risk its relationship with us for Trump. Russia and North Korea are the only two that might believe Trump is worth the trouble...but even they might think it will do more damage to our country to make him face the drama of a criminal prosecution. It just matters what all Trump actually knows that our government doesn’t want anyone else to know. —R SF Bear,

Thanks for the comment! It just all seems too convenient for all of this to happen immediately after Trump’s last opportunity to knock Biden down in the polls by getting him to screw up and make a badly worded comment that can easily be twisted and used against him failed to happen! Especially when you consider that it was Trump whose comments were so damning to his own hopes for re-election that were the main take away from the debate. Dropping out before the election is the only way Trump can avoid losing the election. He can blame the virus and he can laugh at Pence when he loses — just as long as he does not lose.

The more I have been discussing Trump’s exit strategy with others, the more I have come to realize that Trump’s gonna have to use his knowledge of our national secrets to try to buy himself a safe place to hide out. It’s the only thing of value that Trump has to offer that might outweigh the fury that our nation will unleash on whoever offers him refuge. I cannot see Saudi Arabia being willing to risk its relationship with us for Trump. Russia and North Korea are the only two that might believe Trump is worth the trouble...but even they might think it will do more damage to our country to make him face the drama of a criminal prosecution. It just matters what all Trump actually knows that our government doesn’t want anyone else to know.

—R

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169829 Kick Sat, 03 Oct 2020 20:41:53 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169829 Interesting morning today, y'all. Guess what I did? * Received my paper ballot in mail yesterday. * Made my choices by filling in little circles today. * Placed ballot in white "inside envelope." * Placed inside envelope in "carrier envelope." * Decided to bypass effed up USPS and hand deliver. * Donned N95 mask, dressed comfortably for possible line. * Arrived early. No line at all! * Immediately was seated to show my ID and get verified. * Signed my name and filled out Line 6. * Deposited my verified ballot that will be counted before election day. VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! So suck it Trump and the GOP and your pathetic attempts at disenfranchisement of citizens and hijacking of America's democracy. I could have voted for one of you suckers and losers, but I like people who weren't cadet bone spurs, captured, compromised and cowards, and I like people who pay taxes! :P Interesting morning today, y'all. Guess what I did?

* Received my paper ballot in mail yesterday.
* Made my choices by filling in little circles today.
* Placed ballot in white "inside envelope."
* Placed inside envelope in "carrier envelope."
* Decided to bypass effed up USPS and hand deliver.
* Donned N95 mask, dressed comfortably for possible line.
* Arrived early. No line at all!
* Immediately was seated to show my ID and get verified.
* Signed my name and filled out Line 6.
* Deposited my verified ballot that will be counted before election day.

VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED! VOTED!

So suck it Trump and the GOP and your pathetic attempts at disenfranchisement of citizens and hijacking of America's democracy.

I could have voted for one of you suckers and losers, but I like people who weren't cadet bone spurs, captured, compromised and cowards, and I like people who pay taxes! :P

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169828 ListenWhenYouHear Sat, 03 Oct 2020 20:29:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169828 Kick, <I> Trump's current campaign manager, Bill Stepien, got arrested... oh, wait... that was the prior three campaign managers for Trump. Stepien tested positive for coronavirus.</i> Oh, be patient...his time will come...well, if he lives through this it will! I cannot decide if we should believe that Trump is doing much better or much worse than how they are telling us he is doing! I figure that it has to be one of the two, simply because we KNOW they ain’t telling the truth! If he is reported to have died, I bet the family will move to have him cremated immediately... that way an urn of sand from one of his golf courses can lay in state while Trump makes a run for it! I realize that this sounds silly, but you know that Trump remembers the ratings that OJ pulled when he had Al Cowlings try to make a run for the border in the white Bronco...if he’s going down, then THAT is the way Trump will want to go down! If he truly is sick, with the off-the-charts level of narcissism that he suffers from, Trump will be even worse at being a patient than he has been at being president. He’s used to having doctors who will lie to him to stroke his ego. I actually feel sorry for those having to reassure him every five minutes that he isn’t dead... yet. XOXO —R Kick,

Trump's current campaign manager, Bill Stepien, got arrested... oh, wait... that was the prior three campaign managers for Trump. Stepien tested positive for coronavirus.

Oh, be patient...his time will come...well, if he lives through this it will!

I cannot decide if we should believe that Trump is doing much better or much worse than how they are telling us he is doing! I figure that it has to be one of the two, simply because we KNOW they ain’t telling the truth! If he is reported to have died, I bet the family will move to have him cremated immediately... that way an urn of sand from one of his golf courses can lay in state while Trump makes a run for it! I realize that this sounds silly, but you know that Trump remembers the ratings that OJ pulled when he had Al Cowlings try to make a run for the border in the white Bronco...if he’s going down, then THAT is the way Trump will want to go down!

If he truly is sick, with the off-the-charts level of narcissism that he suffers from, Trump will be even worse at being a patient than he has been at being president. He’s used to having doctors who will lie to him to stroke his ego. I actually feel sorry for those having to reassure him every five minutes that he isn’t dead... yet.

XOXO

—R

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169827 ListenWhenYouHear Sat, 03 Oct 2020 19:58:53 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169827 Mopshell, Liked your article on KOS! Great job! -Russ Mopshell,

Liked your article on KOS! Great job!

-Russ

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169826 ListenWhenYouHear Sat, 03 Oct 2020 19:55:52 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169826 Just a reminder... while everyone was thrilled that Biden tested negative after Trump announced he was positive, we cannot breathe easily until Biden tests negative a full week after the debate. The incubation period for the virus is up to 7 days, so Biden should be self quarantining, IMHO — If for no other reason but to demonstrate how a real President acts responsibly out of his concern for others’ wellbeing! Just a reminder... while everyone was thrilled that Biden tested negative after Trump announced he was positive, we cannot breathe easily until Biden tests negative a full week after the debate. The incubation period for the virus is up to 7 days, so Biden should be self quarantining, IMHO — If for no other reason but to demonstrate how a real President acts responsibly out of his concern for others’ wellbeing!

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169825 ListenWhenYouHear Sat, 03 Oct 2020 19:45:51 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169825 Alin <I> The Karma virus is a bitch</i> No, the COVID-19 virus is a bitch....Karma is BEAUTIFUL! Alin

The Karma virus is a bitch

No, the COVID-19 virus is a bitch....Karma is BEAUTIFUL!

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169824 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 17:17:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169824 Nice piece, Mopshell! Nice piece, Mopshell!

]]> By: Mopshell http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169823 Mopshell Sat, 03 Oct 2020 17:04:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169823 Ground zero for the Off-White Residence outbreak was definitely the garden party. Wrote about it here: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/3/1983061/-McConnell-s-Scheming-Imperiled-by-Covid-19-Outbreak?_=2020-10-03T09:13:14.424-07:00 Ground zero for the Off-White Residence outbreak was definitely the garden party. Wrote about it here:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/3/1983061/-McConnell-s-Scheming-Imperiled-by-Covid-19-Outbreak?_=2020-10-03T09:13:14.424-07:00

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169822 TheStig Sat, 03 Oct 2020 17:02:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169822 In the fine tradition of Presidential health briefings we are receiving a stream of muddled bullshit. Not quite lies, but far from the unvarnished truth. In the fine tradition of Presidential health briefings we are receiving a stream of muddled bullshit. Not quite lies, but far from the unvarnished truth.

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169821 James T Canuck Sat, 03 Oct 2020 16:17:17 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169821 I'm reminded of an interview I stumbled onto on CNN. Chris Cuomo was interviewing Mary Trump. In the closing remarks she augered that Trump is a classic nihilist, Cuomo went on to fail completely in his definition of nihilism, she went on to coin it perfectly... Trump in loss and failure will take down everyone with him. If what I'm hearing is true, that prick was Johnny Appleseed with CV19 for at least 24 hours. Great call Mary Trump. LL&P I'm reminded of an interview I stumbled onto on CNN. Chris Cuomo was interviewing Mary Trump. In the closing remarks she augered that Trump is a classic nihilist, Cuomo went on to fail completely in his definition of nihilism, she went on to coin it perfectly... Trump in loss and failure will take down everyone with him.

If what I'm hearing is true, that prick was Johnny Appleseed with CV19 for at least 24 hours.

Great call Mary Trump.

LL&P

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169820 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 16:05:51 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169820 That's bad news for Biden and hundreds of other, all of whom should now be in quarantine. That's bad news for Biden and hundreds of other, all of whom should now be in quarantine.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169819 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 16:05:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169819 And, according to his doctor, Trump tested positive on, ah, Wednesday. And, according to his doctor, Trump tested positive on, ah, Wednesday.

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169818 James T Canuck Sat, 03 Oct 2020 16:04:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169818 This isn't rocket science. Touche. Are you sure about that, lol. LL&P This isn't rocket science.

Touche.

Are you sure about that, lol.

LL&P

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169817 James T Canuck Sat, 03 Oct 2020 15:58:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169817 I've never cheered for a virus before, in our time of covid, anything's possible. According to Trump's doctors, (who sound completely corrupted in the presence of the master corruptor), he's up and doing handsprings and jumping through hog's heads of fire. LL&P I've never cheered for a virus before, in our time of covid, anything's possible.

According to Trump's doctors, (who sound completely corrupted in the presence of the master corruptor), he's up and doing handsprings and jumping through hog's heads of fire.

LL&P

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169816 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 15:39:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169816 ***Correction*** Everybody at the WH event for the judge on Saturday should now be in self-quarantine for two weeks, while they are waiting for test results. Even if their test is negative today, they should remain in quarantine for two weeks and get another test, especially if symptoms ensue. This isn't rocket science. ***Correction***

Everybody at the WH event for the judge on Saturday should now be in self-quarantine for two weeks, while they are waiting for test results.

Even if their test is negative today, they should remain in quarantine for two weeks and get another test, especially if symptoms ensue.

This isn't rocket science.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169815 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 15:36:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169815 Even if the test negative today, they should remain in quarantine for two weeks and get another test, especially if symptoms ensue. This isn't rocket science. Even if the test negative today, they should remain in quarantine for two weeks and get another test, especially if symptoms ensue.

This isn't rocket science.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169814 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 15:35:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169814 Everybody at the WH event for the judge on Saturday should no be in self-quarantine for two weeks. while they are waiting for test results. Everybody at the WH event for the judge on Saturday should no be in self-quarantine for two weeks. while they are waiting for test results.

]]> By: Alin http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169813 Alin Sat, 03 Oct 2020 15:29:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169813 The Karma virus is a bitch The Karma virus is a bitch

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169812 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 15:16:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169812 Back to being impersonal, again. Oh, well ... If I was the AG - or the Chief Justice, for that matter - I'd be getting tested every day and would definitely be in quarantine for the next 14 days. Back to being impersonal, again. Oh, well ...

If I was the AG - or the Chief Justice, for that matter - I'd be getting tested every day and would definitely be in quarantine for the next 14 days.

]]> By: John M http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169811 John M Sat, 03 Oct 2020 14:16:41 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169811 [31] Elizabeth Miller wrote: "Chris Cuomo had a great line tonight ... it's official, there is a cluster in the White House. Ahem." I thought Melania, Ivanka and Kellyanne got together and made sure everybody's clusters were cut off??? :-D [31] Elizabeth Miller wrote:

"Chris Cuomo had a great line tonight ... it's official, there is a cluster in the White House. Ahem."

I thought Melania, Ivanka and Kellyanne got together and made sure everybody's clusters were cut off??? :-D

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169810 nypoet22 Sat, 03 Oct 2020 09:31:19 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169810 poor donald poor donald

]]> By: italyrusty http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169809 italyrusty Sat, 03 Oct 2020 09:17:31 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169809 My nomination for MDDOW is none other than Chris' senior U S Senator. I read that only two Senators were maskless for an entire hearing of the Judiciary Committee: Mike Lee and Diane Feinstein. I haven't read anything further (and can't locate the link - an Internet search presented me with a boatload of Breitbart-type "gotcha" photos of her strolling through an airport without a mask). If this is true, Sen Feinstein is a terrible example for her fellow Californians and for all Americans. My nomination for MDDOW is none other than Chris' senior U S Senator. I read that only two Senators were maskless for an entire hearing of the Judiciary Committee: Mike Lee and Diane Feinstein. I haven't read anything further (and can't locate the link - an Internet search presented me with a boatload of Breitbart-type "gotcha" photos of her strolling through an airport without a mask).
If this is true, Sen Feinstein is a terrible example for her fellow Californians and for all Americans.

]]> By: italyrusty http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169808 italyrusty Sat, 03 Oct 2020 09:06:13 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169808 Kick [21] - a fine comment containing both humor and useful information! Kick [21] - a fine comment containing both humor and useful information!

]]> By: chaszzzbrown http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169807 chaszzzbrown Sat, 03 Oct 2020 07:58:39 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169807 Reading the estimable <a href="https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/1312220372402540545" rel="nofollow">Bob Wachter's</a> recent medical sleuthing, it sounds like this isn't one of the ones where Trump has just mild to no symptoms. Reading the estimable Bob Wachter's recent medical sleuthing, it sounds like this isn't one of the ones where Trump has just mild to no symptoms.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169806 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 05:48:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169806 Too bad the WH doesn't do cluster investigations. Too bad the WH doesn't do cluster investigations.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169805 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 05:47:54 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169805 Chris Cuomo had a great line tonight ... it's official, there is a cluster in the White House. Ahem. Chris Cuomo had a great line tonight ... it's official, there is a cluster in the White House. Ahem.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169804 MtnCaddy Sat, 03 Oct 2020 05:11:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169804 Once again, shout out to Weigantia! This Comments section is so much more pleasant without the Troll formerly known as Michale! If he doesn't pay off the"percentage of black votes Trump wins" I'll personally cover them if you 86 the, er, person. Once again, shout out to Weigantia!

This Comments section is so much more pleasant without the Troll formerly known as Michale! If he doesn't pay off the"percentage of black votes Trump wins" I'll personally cover them if you 86 the, er, person.

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169803 MtnCaddy Sat, 03 Oct 2020 05:04:19 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169803 Or... "It's the space BETWEEN THE NOTES that makes the notes TASTY!" Or...

"It's the space BETWEEN THE NOTES that makes the notes TASTY!"

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169802 MtnCaddy Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:56:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169802 Alrighty! Trump catching Covid was hopefully a FTP that half wrote itself. I say this because the insanity has made you crank out sooo much more content than those days of being bored by politics. Remember how July and August was the ideal time for the Punditocracy to take vacation? Because it was such a "slow news" time of year? Anyways, Mr. Weigant, the BREVITY of this week's FTPs make me surrender the only CRITICISM I've ever held about your outstanding work product: This week's FTPs are <b>far more useful than the others because they're so SUCCINCT and TO THE POINT.</b> I don't know what FTPs are meant to accomplish but "short and sweet" TPs are the only ones that I could deploy with any hope of effectiveness in AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION WITH A TRUMPANZIE. I get it: honing each weeks TPs down into "gotcha" quality sound bites would require considerably more Herculean effort than you already expend. And it oughta land you a way-better paying position with the Biden campaign. But (as I learned being a bassist in a Trash-rock-And-roll-Devil-worship band... "Less is MORE." Just sayin' Alrighty! Trump catching Covid was hopefully a FTP that half wrote itself. I say this because the insanity has made you crank out sooo much more content than those days of being bored by politics.

Remember how July and August was the ideal time for the Punditocracy to take vacation? Because it was such a "slow news" time of year?

Anyways, Mr. Weigant, the BREVITY of this week's FTPs make me surrender the only CRITICISM I've ever held about your outstanding work product:

This week's FTPs are far more useful than the others because they're so SUCCINCT and TO THE POINT. I don't know what FTPs are meant to accomplish but "short and sweet" TPs are the only ones that I could deploy with any hope of effectiveness in AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION WITH A TRUMPANZIE.

I get it: honing each weeks TPs down into "gotcha" quality sound bites would require considerably more Herculean effort than you already expend. And it oughta land you a way-better paying position with the Biden campaign. But (as I learned being a bassist in a Trash-rock-And-roll-Devil-worship band...

"Less is MORE."

Just sayin'

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169801 MtnCaddy Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:41:18 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169801 I mean, he could make a fortune pushing "MAGA masks" I mean, he could make a fortune pushing "MAGA masks"

]]> By: MtnCaddy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169800 MtnCaddy Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:40:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169800 CW wrote, <i>There is one good thing that could come of this, if Trump makes a giant U-turn and starts promoting wearing face masks and social distancing and preventative hygiene. If wearing a mask (a "MAGA mask" maybe?) becomes a test of his followers devotion to him, then this could wind up saving tens of thousands of lives in the upcoming months.</i> Puh-leeze, don't give the bastard any good ideas! CW wrote,

There is one good thing that could come of this, if Trump makes a giant U-turn and starts promoting wearing face masks and social distancing and preventative hygiene. If wearing a mask (a "MAGA mask" maybe?) becomes a test of his followers devotion to him, then this could wind up saving tens of thousands of lives in the upcoming months.

Puh-leeze, don't give the bastard any good ideas!

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169799 Kick Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:32:33 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169799 nypoet22 10 <i>DC, PR, USVI, samoa, guam and marianas would raise the total number of senators to 110. </i> Oh, I like the way you think: 56 states! 112 Senators! With all those extra states, you'll definitely need to add about 70 federal judges and... oh, say... 2 Supreme Court justices. I'm kidding... I think. :) nypoet22
10

DC, PR, USVI, samoa, guam and marianas would raise the total number of senators to 110.

Oh, I like the way you think: 56 states! 112 Senators!

With all those extra states, you'll definitely need to add about 70 federal judges and... oh, say... 2 Supreme Court justices.

I'm kidding... I think. :)

]]> By: C. R. Stucki http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169798 C. R. Stucki Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:32:24 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169798 It's only fair that they treat the orange moron with hydroxycholoroquine (SP?), or whatever that voodoo stuff was that he kept recommending for everybody else. It's only fair that they treat the orange moron with hydroxycholoroquine (SP?), or whatever that voodoo stuff was that he kept recommending for everybody else.

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169797 Kick Sat, 03 Oct 2020 04:20:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169797 Trump's current campaign manager, Bill Stepien, got arrested... oh, wait... that was the prior three campaign managers for Trump. Stepien tested positive for coronavirus. I hear there are three White House reporters that have also tested positive. Trump's current campaign manager, Bill Stepien, got arrested... oh, wait... that was the prior three campaign managers for Trump. Stepien tested positive for coronavirus.

I hear there are three White House reporters that have also tested positive.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169796 TheStig Sat, 03 Oct 2020 03:26:08 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169796 According to CNN Trump is a lot sicker than reported earlier. Labored breathing given his age and comorbidities puts him at very high risk. Covid testing at the White House has been ...wait for it....lied about. Trump wasn't tested before the debate. According to CNN Trump is a lot sicker than reported earlier. Labored breathing given his age and comorbidities puts him at very high risk. Covid testing at the White House has been ...wait for it....lied about. Trump wasn't tested before the debate.

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169794 Kick Sat, 03 Oct 2020 03:19:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169794 Kellyanne Conway... come on down. The contact tracing seems to be leading to the White House event in the Rose Garden event on Saturday, September 26, for Amy Coney Barrett. Bill Barr was there blowing his nose and shaking hands. It doesn't matter if some of them have tested negative today; they could still test positive later: * No social distancing. * Very few masks. * Packed into the Rose Garden. * Hugging each other and blowing their noses and shaking hands. Even after the <b>death</b> of Herman Cain, likely in connection with the pathetic Tulsa rally, Cult 45 and the useful idiots turned a blind eye to reality and continued right on denying the facts of the severity of the situation. Eight months into the pandemic! Wake up, morons! Maybe they'll catch on now; I doubt it. Anybody who feels sorry for Trump, please review this tape wherein he mocks his opponent for becoming ill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT-LfVlTE94 Four years ago today. Kellyanne Conway... come on down.

The contact tracing seems to be leading to the White House event in the Rose Garden event on Saturday, September 26, for Amy Coney Barrett. Bill Barr was there blowing his nose and shaking hands. It doesn't matter if some of them have tested negative today; they could still test positive later:

* No social distancing.
* Very few masks.
* Packed into the Rose Garden.
* Hugging each other and blowing their noses and shaking hands.

Even after the death of Herman Cain, likely in connection with the pathetic Tulsa rally, Cult 45 and the useful idiots turned a blind eye to reality and continued right on denying the facts of the severity of the situation. Eight months into the pandemic! Wake up, morons!

Maybe they'll catch on now; I doubt it.

Anybody who feels sorry for Trump, please review this tape wherein he mocks his opponent for becoming ill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT-LfVlTE94

Four years ago today.

]]> By: John M from Ct. http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169793 John M from Ct. Sat, 03 Oct 2020 03:01:15 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169793 Really? We have to rehearse the JFK conspiracy theories, for no particular reason? I love JTC's [9] contention that VP Johnson was packing a rifle from the (Schoolbook Depository; grassy knoll; other) when he pulled the trigger and blew his boss's brains out. Getting back to the matter at hand, I feel torn between my loathing of the president, and my feeling that I should not glory in another person's agony. I'm extremely grateful for Chris's point #6: "I feel just as sorry for Trump as he has felt all along for the other seven million Americans who got COVID-19, or for the 210,000 families who lost one of their own to the virus." That's my feeling. He's not responsible for all the illness and death - no president could have prevented the virus from entering the U.S. But he's responsible for the illness and deaths of very large numbers of people who could have been saved had the president, leading the federal govenment, taken the kinds of steps that previous administrations had identified as absolutely necessary in the face of a global plague. Tens to a hundred thousand, at least - who he's showed basically zero compassion or feeling for. Now he has it. Enjoy, sir. Really? We have to rehearse the JFK conspiracy theories, for no particular reason? I love JTC's [9] contention that VP Johnson was packing a rifle from the (Schoolbook Depository; grassy knoll; other) when he pulled the trigger and blew his boss's brains out.

Getting back to the matter at hand, I feel torn between my loathing of the president, and my feeling that I should not glory in another person's agony. I'm extremely grateful for Chris's point #6:

"I feel just as sorry for Trump as he has felt all along for the other seven million Americans who got COVID-19, or for the 210,000 families who lost one of their own to the virus."

That's my feeling. He's not responsible for all the illness and death - no president could have prevented the virus from entering the U.S. But he's responsible for the illness and deaths of very large numbers of people who could have been saved had the president, leading the federal govenment, taken the kinds of steps that previous administrations had identified as absolutely necessary in the face of a global plague. Tens to a hundred thousand, at least - who he's showed basically zero compassion or feeling for.

Now he has it. Enjoy, sir.

]]> By: Mopshell http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169792 Mopshell Sat, 03 Oct 2020 02:55:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169792 Both Thom Tillis and Mike Lee have tested positive and need to remain in quarantine for the next 10 days (when did it get shortened to 10 days from 14 days?). Neither of them were on the AF1 flight with Hope Hicks but both were at an Off-White Residence function for Amy Coney Barrett. Both of them are members of the Senate Judiciary Committee which normally has 12R to 10D but with two away sick, the numbers are now even: 10R-10D. You can be sure that the Dems will use their sudden increase in power to prevent Coney Barrett getting out of committee! I haven't checked but I think it likely that the other 10 GOP members of that committee were also at that same function so more than two of them may test positive over the next couple of days. Just one more would mean the Dems will have a majority on that committee and there's no better way to use that majority than by promptly throwing out Coney Barrett as a candidate for RBG's seat on SCOTUS! Both Thom Tillis and Mike Lee have tested positive and need to remain in quarantine for the next 10 days (when did it get shortened to 10 days from 14 days?).

Neither of them were on the AF1 flight with Hope Hicks but both were at an Off-White Residence function for Amy Coney Barrett.

Both of them are members of the Senate Judiciary Committee which normally has 12R to 10D but with two away sick, the numbers are now even: 10R-10D. You can be sure that the Dems will use their sudden increase in power to prevent Coney Barrett getting out of committee!

I haven't checked but I think it likely that the other 10 GOP members of that committee were also at that same function so more than two of them may test positive over the next couple of days. Just one more would mean the Dems will have a majority on that committee and there's no better way to use that majority than by promptly throwing out Coney Barrett as a candidate for RBG's seat on SCOTUS!

]]> By: Mopshell http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169791 Mopshell Sat, 03 Oct 2020 02:40:44 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169791 The first news I saw this morning was that Trump had developed a fever and cough and been taken to Walter Reed "for a few days." I've never been so pleased to hear of someone developing symptoms. It would've been a cruel Fate indeed if he'd just had mild sniffles (which would more likely be due to snorting Adderall) or, worse still, been asymptomatic. If he had, he would've used it as proof that he was right all along that it was no big deal. For the sake of other lives, that lie needed to be debunked and there's no better way of doing it than for the liar-in-chief to get really ill. I don't want him to die though. I want him to lose the election in a landslide, then be indicted, tried, convicted and jailed for the rest of his life. The first news I saw this morning was that Trump had developed a fever and cough and been taken to Walter Reed "for a few days."

I've never been so pleased to hear of someone developing symptoms. It would've been a cruel Fate indeed if he'd just had mild sniffles (which would more likely be due to snorting Adderall) or, worse still, been asymptomatic. If he had, he would've used it as proof that he was right all along that it was no big deal. For the sake of other lives, that lie needed to be debunked and there's no better way of doing it than for the liar-in-chief to get really ill.

I don't want him to die though. I want him to lose the election in a landslide, then be indicted, tried, convicted and jailed for the rest of his life.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169790 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 02:23:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169790 The body was altered before the official autopsy, to paraphrase Chief Pathologist Dr. Hume and FBI agents Sibert and O'Neil. Here's the actual quote from the FBI report written by the two agents attending the official autopsy based on utterances by the chief pathologist: <i>Following the removal of the wrapping, it was ascertained that the President’s clothing had been removed and it was also apparent that a tracheotomy had been performed, as well as surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull.</i> The doctors in Dallas didn't perform any surgery in any area of the president's head. The body was altered before the official autopsy, to paraphrase Chief Pathologist Dr. Hume and FBI agents Sibert and O'Neil.

Here's the actual quote from the FBI report written by the two agents attending the official autopsy based on utterances by the chief pathologist:

Following the removal of the wrapping, it was ascertained that the President’s clothing had been removed and it was also apparent that a tracheotomy had been performed, as well as surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull.

The doctors in Dallas didn't perform any surgery in any area of the president's head.

]]> By: SF Bear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169789 SF Bear Sat, 03 Oct 2020 02:07:06 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169789 I think Listen When You Hear #57 from the last column nailed it. This is a hoax so he can abdicate and escape to Russia. But questions arise #1 Why would Pence pardon him? Pence only gets to be President for a couple of months then he is dead meat, no republican would want to touch him in the future. He owes Trump nothing, and if Trump abdicated his one chance for a future went out the door with him. #2 Pence could only pardon him for federal crimes, NY and CA could bankrupt him and if there is a God in heaven also nail him on some criminal charges. But can they do any of this if he is absentia? I am sure he is loading up every dollar he can find on Air Force One to take with him. However the NYT reports he is not at all liquid so he will be totally dependent on the kindness of strangers. How long will Putin support him if he is no longer a force in US politics? If he were Tweeting from Moscow would any of the Proud Boys still want to follow such a loser? I think Listen When You Hear #57 from the last column nailed it. This is a hoax so he can abdicate and escape to Russia. But questions arise #1 Why would Pence pardon him? Pence only gets to be President for a couple of months then he is dead meat, no republican would want to touch him in the future. He owes Trump nothing, and if Trump abdicated his one chance for a future went out the door with him. #2 Pence could only pardon him for federal crimes, NY and CA could bankrupt him and if there is a God in heaven also nail him on some criminal charges. But can they do any of this if he is absentia? I am sure he is loading up every dollar he can find on Air Force One to take with him. However the NYT reports he is not at all liquid so he will be totally dependent on the kindness of strangers. How long will Putin support him if he is no longer a force in US politics? If he were Tweeting from Moscow would any of the Proud Boys still want to follow such a loser?

]]> By: goode trickle http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169788 goode trickle Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:57:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169788 If some of the reporting coming out is true that Hope Hicks self isolated on AF-1 on the return flight after receiving a positive result is true, it would represent a monumental yet not shocking deviation from science. Aircraft by their nature are positive airspaces, meaning in epidemiological terms that they are for the protection of one person in a high risk environment. In cases where a high risk person needs to be isolated from others in a low risk environment negative pressure spaces are used, meaning that air is removed from the isolation space at a velocity greater than it enters. So.... reminds me of a song. HH in a cabin on an aero plane is gonna isolate and hope she gets better. She ain't got time to take a personal plane. Lonely days are gone. All she knows is she is going home and gonna feel better. The white house just dropped off your quarantine letter. If the yahoos in charge of the trumpistration response were on their game, they would have required HH to be repatriated separated from AF-1 and those on board and not allowed to utilize shared transport for the repatriation. But they didn't... so I will not be surprised to see a cluster develop over the next few days. If some of the reporting coming out is true that Hope Hicks self isolated on AF-1 on the return flight after receiving a positive result is true, it would represent a monumental yet not shocking deviation from science.

Aircraft by their nature are positive airspaces, meaning in epidemiological terms that they are for the protection of one person in a high risk environment.

In cases where a high risk person needs to be isolated from others in a low risk environment negative pressure spaces are used, meaning that air is removed from the isolation space at a velocity greater than it enters.

So.... reminds me of a song.

HH in a cabin on an aero plane is gonna isolate and hope she gets better.
She ain't got time to take a personal plane.
Lonely days are gone.
All she knows is she is going home and gonna feel better.
The white house just dropped off your quarantine letter.

If the yahoos in charge of the trumpistration response were on their game, they would have required HH to be repatriated separated from AF-1 and those on board and not allowed to utilize shared transport for the repatriation.

But they didn't... so I will not be surprised to see a cluster develop over the next few days.

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169787 James T Canuck Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:53:09 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169787 How is the "Covid in Chief"? We'll never know. or have to wait and see... LL&P How is the "Covid in Chief"?

We'll never know.

or have to wait and see...

LL&P

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169786 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:34:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169786 Oh, no. N-N-N-Noo! I am done with this. Ah, just when I think I've finally got all of that out of my system ... Oh, no. N-N-N-Noo!

I am done with this. Ah, just when I think I've finally got all of that out of my system ...

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169785 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:33:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169785 JTC, <i>Wasn't it Walter Ried that completely botched Kennedy's autopsy?</i> Do you mean the pre-autopsy autopsy or the official, not-based-on-the-best-evidence autopsy? JTC,

Wasn't it Walter Ried that completely botched Kennedy's autopsy?

Do you mean the pre-autopsy autopsy or the official, not-based-on-the-best-evidence autopsy?

]]> By: dsws http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169784 dsws Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:31:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169784 <i>as the White House announced that</i> Have they taken up ventriloquism? And if they start wearing masks, how will we tell when they're lying? as the White House announced that

Have they taken up ventriloquism?

And if they start wearing masks, how will we tell when they're lying?

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169783 nypoet22 Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:22:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169783 @cw, if biden wins and dems take the senate, which at the moment is looking at least possible, do you think schumer would force a vote to admit every single district or territory who wanted it as a state? DC, PR, USVI, samoa, guam and marianas would raise the total number of senators to 110. JL @cw,

if biden wins and dems take the senate, which at the moment is looking at least possible, do you think schumer would force a vote to admit every single district or territory who wanted it as a state?

DC, PR, USVI, samoa, guam and marianas would raise the total number of senators to 110.

JL

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169782 James T Canuck Sat, 03 Oct 2020 01:07:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169782 Wasn't it Walter Ried that completely botched Kennedy's autopsy? I'm fairly sure it was LBJ, Kennedy's most likely killer, who sent his cadaver there. Has Pence hit LBJ button? Only time will tell. Be sure to stay tuned to your local aluminum hat frequency... ;) LL&P Wasn't it Walter Ried that completely botched Kennedy's autopsy?

I'm fairly sure it was LBJ, Kennedy's most likely killer, who sent his cadaver there.

Has Pence hit LBJ button?

Only time will tell.

Be sure to stay tuned to your local aluminum hat frequency...

;)

LL&P

]]> By: goode trickle http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169780 goode trickle Sat, 03 Oct 2020 00:55:47 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169780 Now is the time to pay attention to the federal register. This is the perfect cover for all sorts of nasty shenanigan's to take place. Now is the time to pay attention to the federal register. This is the perfect cover for all sorts of nasty shenanigan's to take place.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169778 TheStig Sat, 03 Oct 2020 00:47:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169778 The President currenty has a low grade fever and fatigue...and maybe some other undignified respiratory and digestive symptoms. The White House medical facilities could treat him perfectly well. As I see it, moving him is designed to protect the White House Staff who do most of the actual work, such as it is. Trump's workday is mostly taken up watching Fox Network, Tweeting and some ancillary Fork and Spoon Operation. He can do all this at Walter Reed. Moving the hunderds of WH staff would be a much bigger operation....and far more disruptive. In fact, removing the boss may greatly ehance WH productivity! WH Staff infections (no pun intended)) can be isolated at home or in hospital on a case by case basis. The President currenty has a low grade fever and fatigue...and maybe some other undignified respiratory and digestive symptoms. The White House medical facilities could treat him perfectly well. As I see it, moving him is designed to protect the White House Staff who do most of the actual work, such as it is. Trump's workday is mostly taken up watching Fox Network, Tweeting and some ancillary Fork and Spoon Operation. He can do all this at Walter Reed. Moving the hunderds of WH staff would be a much bigger operation....and far more disruptive. In fact, removing the boss may greatly ehance WH productivity! WH Staff infections (no pun intended)) can be isolated at home or in hospital on a case by case basis.

]]> By: John From Censornati http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169777 John From Censornati Sat, 03 Oct 2020 00:41:08 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169777 Does anybody really care <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chelsea-clinton-ivanka-trump-friendship-over_n_5f7731f0c5b6dd94f1e9bcbe" rel="nofollow"><I>why</i></a> Chelsea Clinton is no longer friends with Ivanka? It seems rather obvious. I'd like to know why she was friends with her in the first place. Does anybody really care why Chelsea Clinton is no longer friends with Ivanka? It seems rather obvious.

I'd like to know why she was friends with her in the first place.

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169776 James T Canuck Sat, 03 Oct 2020 00:36:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169776 'Oh, Saint Peter At the gates of heaven Won't you let me in? I never did no harm I never did no wrong Ah, oh, Gabriel, let me blow your horn Let me blow your horn Oh, I never did no harm Did no harm I've only been this young once I never thought I'd do anybody no wrong No, not once, oh no' Well well well...So he can die easy...Well well well LL&P 'Oh, Saint Peter
At the gates of heaven
Won't you let me in?
I never did no harm
I never did no wrong
Ah, oh, Gabriel, let me blow your horn
Let me blow your horn
Oh, I never did no harm
Did no harm
I've only been this young once
I never thought I'd do anybody no wrong
No, not once, oh no'

Well well well...So he can die easy...Well well well

LL&P

]]> By: John From Censornati http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/10/02/friday-talking-points-october-schadenfreudefest/#comment-169775 John From Censornati Sat, 03 Oct 2020 00:35:28 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=19352#comment-169775 I'm thankful that the "free Melania" meme can now be put to rest forever. I'm thankful that the "free Melania" meme can now be put to rest forever.

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