Only death cult zombies could believe that. He clearly wants to panic people about cartoonish threats like "Biden will abolish the suburbs".

^^^ This ^^^

President Panic gaslights the death cult zombies that without him to stop it:

* low-income people are moving next door
* there won't be any more suburbs
* Democrats are going to burn down their cities
* the United States will be destroyed
* Joe Biden will hurt the Bible
* Joe Biden will hurt God

but, hey, pay no attention to that pandemic, it's going to just disappear one day (after the election) because it's just a Democrat hoax. Now hurry up and grab your guns and go storm the state houses of Democrats where those governors are trying to take away your freedoms... and nobody panic.

It amused me to watch Insanity Hannity yesterday...why is Hilly Clinton still subject of concern to these crooks?

Trump has the blood of tens of k on his stubby little claws.

The lines are drawn, Trump will get his base, minus a few center rights, Biden should get everyone else...

Nov 3 can't come sooner..

LL&P

That article is actually from The Atlantic... just wanna give credit where credit is due.

The answer is to return the filibuster to its original intention—something to be used rarely, when a minority (not necessarily a partisan one, by the way) feels so strongly about an issue of great national significance that it will make enormous sacrifices to delay a bill. There is a simple way to do this—and, in the meantime, keep Rule XXII and mollify Manchin et al. while also providing an opening for Biden and his Democrats to get big things done. That is to flip the numbers: Instead of 60 votes required to end debate, the procedure should require 40 votes to continue it. If at any time the minority cannot muster 40 votes, debate ends, cloture is invoked, and the bill can be passed by the votes of a simple majority.

If the November 3 voting produces anything less than a blowout lead for either side—and perhaps even if it produces a blowout lead for Joe Biden—the post-election period is likely to test how far both GOP leaders and rank-and-file Republican voters will go in tolerating efforts from Trump to subvert the rules of small-d democracy.

On that front, a new study from the Vanderbilt University political scientist Larry M. Bartels offers important—and ominous—findings. Bartels found that antidemocratic and authoritarian ideas have secured a substantial foothold within the GOP’s electoral coalition. In a national survey he conducted in January, just over half of Republican voters (including both self-identified Republicans and independents who lean toward the party) strongly or somewhat agreed with the statement that “the traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that we may have to use force to save it.” Just under half agreed that “strong leaders sometimes have to bend the rules in order to get things done.” About two in five agreed that “a time will come when patriotic Americans have to take the law into their own hands.” And almost three-fourths concurred that “it is hard to trust the results of elections when so many people will vote for anyone who offers a handout.”

This, from I’ve Witnessed the Decline of the Republican Party

I just don't see how (short of an alien bursting out of Joe's chest during a debate) Trump gets reelected. Not with a split Republican Party and declining support among so-called Evangelicals.

It would also seem to make Fox News legally culpable for the damage their intentional deception might have caused their viewers. They cannot claim that they were just reporting what Trump was saying if they knew what he was saying was an intentional lie. How wonderful if a byproduct of all of this is that it helps bring down Fox News!

“People of faith who didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton saw her as more corrupt and less kind than Donald Trump, and now some of those same voters see Donald Trump as more corrupt and less kind than Biden,” Pagitt said.

“This is a different election for several reasons, but one of them is that the sheer disgust most religious voters felt for Hillary Clinton in 2016 doesn’t exist with Joe Biden,” said the Trump adviser.

This is nothing but good news for Joe. It doesn't matter whether our Christofacists vote for Joe or simply don't show up to vote. Just as black turnout and support is critical for the Dems, religious turnout and support is of mirror image importance to the Repugs.

This, from Trump’s overtures struggle to register with religious voters

[The polling] predicts an 11 percentage point swing toward Biden among evangelicals and Catholics who backed Trump in 2016, based on input from both demographics across five major 2020 battleground states: Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Other polls have captured similar gains in Biden’s religious support, including an August survey by Fox News that showed the former vice president at 28 percent support among white evangelicals — up 12 percentage points from 2016 exit polls for the Democratic nominee.

Another quote from the same article:

Reconstructing the GOP—or any center-right party that might one day replace it—will take a long time, and the process will be painful. The remaining opportunists in the GOP will try to avert any kind of reform by making a last-ditch lunge to the right to fill the vacuum left by Trump’s culture warring and race-baiting. In the short term, the party might become smaller and more extreme, even as it loses seats. So be it. The hardening of the GOP into a toxic conglomeration of hucksters, quislings, racists, theocrats, and cultists is already happening. The party gladly accepted support from white supremacists and the Russian secret services, and now welcomes QAnon kooks into its caucus. Conservatives must learn that the only way out of “the wilderness” is first to vanquish those who led them there.

No person should ever get a second chance to destroy the Constitution. Trump has brought the United States to the brink of civil catastrophe, and the Republican Party has protected him from the consequences of all his immoral and illegal actions more ably than even Fred Trump did. Conservatives need to put the current Republican Party out of its—and our—misery.

John From Censornati wrote:

Big Orange is still saying that he didn't want to create a panic and he's still refusing to complete the sentence.

He didn't want to create a panic on Wall Street.

Man, you got that spot on! And the stupidest thing among the many Trumpian Covid stupidities is that he was downplaying Covid to keep Wall Street happy fully nine months before the election! Talk about short sighted.

That [Republican] party is long gone. Today the Republicans are the party of “American carnage” and Russian collusion, of scams, plots, and weapons-grade contempt for the rule of law. The only decent, sensible, and conservative position is to vote against this Republican Party at every level, and bring the sad final days of a once-great political institution to an end. Then build the party back up again—from scratch.

This, from a lifetime Republican!

He didn't want to create a panic on Wall Street.

What was Trump thinking?

That Woodward is top notch and that he could talk him into writing a book that would make him look good. To say the least, it exposes how reckless his delusional narcissism is.

Additionally, it highlights his outside-looking-in desperation even as he sits in the White House. He just can't get over the fact that old money Manhattan snobs never accepted him.

You pro-Trump conspiracy theories sound more idiotic by the minute.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/how-fantasy-triumphed-over-reality-in-american-politics.html

"In an obvious way, the pandemic provided a perfect season-ending climax to the story of Trump’s first term. A country built on the promise of fantasy was now facing reality in its purest form: Viruses are not even properly alive, being closer to biological chemicals. How would America react? Would its flight from reality come to a premature end? Six months in, what is most striking is how little has changed."

really thought-provoking stuff.

JL

What was Trump thinking? Does he simply enjoy risk? Cognitive decline?

Does Woodward have 24 hr protection?

if anybody out there is "buying into" the utter asinine nonsensical LIE that Donald Trump just didn't "want people to be frightened" or "panic"

Only death cult zombies could believe that. He clearly wants to panic people about cartoonish threats like "Biden will abolish the suburbs".

maybe it can't be put on a bumper sticker, but some bright advertiser could buy permission to put a counter in the corner of the TV screen: americans killed by trump lying about covid:######

This. ^^^ This right here ^^^

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TRUMP LIED:
2 0 0 , 0 0 0
PEOPLE DIED
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A running total. Make it happen, Bloomberg, et al.

53 DAYS * 22 HOURS * 36 MINUTES

I'd like to believe that this will make a difference, but that's just not how death cults work.

I hear you, JFC. I'd like to believe that there are some people out there that realize you don't call on the pathological lying SOB to put out a fire when he was the arsonist who sat idly by while putting out fake information about the flames he knew to be deadly while knowing full well the severity of the situation.

And if anybody out there is "buying into" the utter asinine nonsensical LIE that Donald Trump just didn't "want people to be frightened" or "panic":

On February 7, Trump told Woodward it was a deadly virus, and on February 28, he told a packed audience in South Carolina and Americans that it was a "Democrat hoax."

There is a vast chasm between knowing how "deadly" a virus is and yet insinuating to Americans that it's all a hoax and then on Friday, April 17, tweeting:

* "LIBERATE VIRGINIA"
* "LIBERATE MINNESOTA"
* "LIBERATE MICHIGAN"

and encouraging the people to whom you LIED about the severity of the virus to further your political LIES by brandishing weapons and storming the state houses of multiple swing states with Democratic governors... at the expense of their health and everyone else's.

Trump didn't want to create a "frenzy"? I call BS.

By Tom Tomorrow. I think of it as "Doonesbury on Steroids."

Come to think of it, when Trump shoots someone on 5th Avenue it'd be just one more death.

Come to think about it some more, Trump better go to Mississippi if he wants to shoot somebody. Less chance that a solid Blue crowd of onlookers would overcome his Secret Service detail and pull his limbs off. Heh.

How many swing voters regularly watch the billboards in times square? Also it doesn't explain how trump is responsible for those deaths.

Must.

Proofread.

One would think that the more cray cray it gets the more those people will "wake up."

(sigh)

Au Contraire, it makes it even harder for the Trump folk to pull out because the moment they do they admit their being, er, total suckers.

You know, losers.

It's now official: Trump lied, people died.

Remember that time in late March/early April where we discussed Donald Trump's spew at the CDC on March 6 about anybody wanting a test? *be right back*

To begin with, a commenter at my site made a nomination that is worth repeating as many times as possible in order to drive home the message. Donald Trump is quite obviously going to win "The Biggest Lie of 2020" this year, and this is the obvious choice that will win it for him...

Anybody that wants a test can get a test. That's what the bottom line is.... Anybody right now and yesterday -- anybody that needs a test gets a test. We -- they're there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful. Anybody that needs a test gets a test.
-- Donald Trump, March 6

~ Chris Weigant

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/03/ftp568/#comment-157007

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Remember that!?

And remember how I said:

And if that turns out not to be "The Biggest Lie of 2020," God help us all for what is...

~ Kick

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This right here is what I meant by that right there.

nypoet22 wrote:

@cw,

maybe it can't be put on a bumper sticker, but some bright advertiser could buy permission to put a counter in the corner of the TV screen: americans killed by trump lying about covid:######

Well, someone did.

Years of journalistic plinking had little effect on the Trump Power Grab. Woodward saved his silver bullet tape for a kill shot.

true, it's pretty cynical of bob woodward not to release the tapes as soon as he had them.

JL

maybe it can't be put on a bumper sticker, but some bright advertiser could buy permission to put a counter in the corner of the TV screen: americans killed by trump lying about covid:######

JL