This is not my first time with multi-link comments, Chris; I got one through during an exchange with Michale a month or more ago that had, I think, three links. At the time, I wasn't recalling that it wouldn't pass muster. I did it and it worked.

As has been pointed out as of late in various comments, using the full [a] anchor element format appears to bypass the autofilter.

How did you manage to sneak a multi-link comment past the autofilter? They're supposed to get flagged...

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As a product of the Maryland public schools system, Spiro Agnew is the first vice president that springs to my mind when trying to name any from the 20th century. Heh.

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As for the idea of Romney as SoS, I think that could work for the reasons mentioned. But I kind of like him in the Senate -- a "gettable" GOP vote on sane legislation.

Maybe Jon Huntsman? Just sayin'...

Don Harris -

Stormy? I remember back in either 1980 or 1984 the original Bozo the Clown announced a run for the presidency. His slogan (I am not making this up): "Elect a REAL Bozo to the White House!"

Heh.

C. R. Stucki [72] -

It wasn't just academic, it was political. I think a DC councilman was forced to step down for using "niggardly" in a public setting. The word comes from a totally different root he correctly argued, but his argument didn't fly politically. I would have to look it up, but I'm almost certain it happened in the DC local government. And you're right, it was somewhere around 20 years ago.

-CW

How about changing the bad part, if you're going to update? "Negroid" was part of a bogus taxonomy, that treated mostly-cultural regional differences as though they were biological realities. We're vertebrate by phylum, mammalian by class, theriiform by subclass, eutherian by whatever that level is called (infraclass?), primate by order, hominid by family, hominin by subfamily, homo sapiens by species -- and according to racist pseudoscience of a bygone era, we're either negroid or caucasoid or whatever other BS terms they made up.

Every level has its suffix. Just as we're "hominid", the various cats (from lions to lynxes) are "felid", and dogs (including jackals, foxes, and so on) are canid. Actually, all extant canid species are also classified as "canine". The category "canid" includes some extinct ones that aren't "canine".

If you use these suffixes without reservation, you're implicitly endorsing them as valid. The higher ones are, at least tentatively. There were mammals already in the Jurassic, but the very distant ancestors of humans and the equally distant ancestors of rabbits were the same little shrew-like animals. Stuff happened at various times, like mass extinctions and ice ages, and it the ancestors of various mammals got to be different from each other. If we use the same taxonomic level for cats vs dogs as for rats vs squirrels, we're accepting the premise that their common ancestors can be presumed to have lived about equally long ago.

Using the -oid suffix for groups of people elevates those groups to a supposed scientific reality. They're not. They're racist pseudoscience, made up partly in an honest attempt to make sense of the world, but perpetuated mostly out of sheer racism.

Church of Football...the only religion who's Sacramental Potion is beer!

Go Blue.

I have a close friend (from Ann Arbor) who explained his family's religion thusly: "We belong to the Church of Beer and Michigan Football."

:-)

-CW

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/08/11/biden-harris-2020/

-CW

You can't be that surprised that he picked Kamala. She just checks too many boxes.

Can't say that I disagree.

the Repugs will cast our team as wild-eyed Socialist/Marxist enemies of freedom no matter who he picks

True. (With the change from "will" and "picks" to "would have" and "had picked", that is.) However, there's a big difference in how well political smears stick to different people. Some politicians are teflon, and others are magnets. It's much more in their image than their substantive policy positions, though.

You'll excuse me now, I have a heaping plate of crow to go eat...

Mind if I join you? It'll be fun. I just have to pick myself off the floor first.

:-)

Yeah PC will ultimately make it impossible to have a reasonable discussion of many things.

Reminds me of the academic uproar over the word 'niggardly" (stingy) of 20 yrs ago. That word was a perfectly legitimate part of the English language for centuries before 'negro' ever morphed into 'nigrah', which in turn morphed into 'nigger', and got banished to linguistic purgatory.

JFC [58]

Sorry, I'm pretty much an 18th Century guy, and you're right, my dictionaries are of the same vintage, but hey, I tried to update it("person-of-color-oid"), but thatseemed awfully clumsy, so tell me, is there modern equivalent, or do we just not talk about physical features?

Relax, man. I can't speak for anyone but myself but as Loud & Proud Libtard as I am I effing hate hate hate PC -- Political Correctness. Being so uptight about words makes for needlessly cautious discourse.

So while I am entirely likely to be wrong...

Hey, at least I got that part right!

:-)

You'll excuse me now, I have a heaping plate of crow to go eat...

-CW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUwxqxlUXXY

Sub-saharan

JL

LL&P

I rest my case.

Those observations are dead on accurate. John Kasich is another one to watch. :)

This! :)

Neither of these pieces were about Biden; they were about the process and, to a lesser extent, the selection committee and the media.

Exactly what I was thinking. :)

Oh, well, if it has to be a woman, then so be it.

Get with the program! Quit making me say that. :)

Sorry, I'm pretty much an 18th Century guy, and you're right, my dictionaries are of the same vintage, but hey, I tried to update it("person-of-color-oid"), but thatseemed awfully clumsy, so tell me, is there modern equivalent, or do we just not talk about physical features?

Here comes my Elizabeth Miller impression: Are you freaking kidding me!?

I can't believe this spit. Seriously!? I hope you're proud of yourself for that. Un-freaking-believable!

You've got a nice list of "pros" there but missing one of the most obvious ones, in my opinion. If your opponent was attempting to paint your Party as a lawless bunch of "thugs," who better to prove that's a load of BS? A person with law in their background, and that's Kamala Harris or Val Demmings.

Hopefully this is the last time I have to tell y'all that a woman of color is the best choice for Biden's ticket. I have only been telling y'all this since forever:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/06/20/bidens-bad-week/#comment-137834

Russ has too, for that matter.

At this point, I think it's somebody off my list, and I think it's Kamala. So I said it before, and I'll say it again: Get with the program! ;)

Do you use a lot of defunct 18th century words like negroid? Pretty much any dictionary will tell you it's offensive. In addition, Wikipedia will tell you that it includes Indians, so she qualifies based on both sides of her family regardless of what you think about her facial features.

That's as far as I'm going down this rabbit hole with you.

Who gets to define "African-American"?

I tend to think that you already know this, but here you go anyway: Who is black?

What exactly do you find "vile"? That I don't think she deserves that credit (for being Af-Am), that she matches my suntan, that I used the word 'negroid' instead of 'person of color-oid', or what??

some people would say that men are insulted by that

That = woman VP, just in case you have any doubt. Always the weasel, he attributes the hurt feelings to some people. He probably got a call from his friend Jim who doesn't go to Paris anymore.

I don't think you're giving Romney credit for his anti-Trumpism in general and his Impeachment vote in particular.

You're right. I'm not. That's a low bar and he's done the very minimum. He's got nothing to lose and he's essentially still on board. He only voted for one article of impeachment.

If Ginsberg were to vacate tomorrow, how do you think he'd vote when McConnell decides against the McConnell doctrine and pushes through a new RW supreme by the end of the year?

Yeah, Stuck, as the apparently only rational Republican around here I think you could "represent" way classier than that.

Think, "Caustic, with Class."

John From Censornati wrote:

I'm afraid he'll hire Willard for something and I have nothing good to say about that. Rmoney has been getting entirely too much good press for doing/saying very little.

Everyone should review his campaign against BHO. Too much sucking up to the orange birther and the people who've become death cult zombies, not to mention the 47% BS.

Cut him some slack, Jack! Repug voters have been fed all that carp for a couple-three decades and he'd have not gained any traction whatsoever in the Primaries if he didn't align with it.

Mitt would (probably, and off the record) tell you, "You have to go to war with the Republican Party that you have -- not the one you wish you had."

And I don't think you're giving Romney credit for his anti-Trumpism in general and his Impeachment vote in particular.

That's a pretty vile comment.

Don Harris wrote:

And Stormy Daniels would bring a whole new meaning to dark horse. :D

"With Trump you only get one big boob. With a Biden/Daniels ticket for the price of one you get three big boobs!"

Now that's the kind of contribution to Weigantia that I do so enjoy! You've got a gift for comedy, Comrade Don. I pray that you'll deploy it more often.

Everyone should review his campaign against BHO. Too much sucking up to the orange birther and the people who've become death cult zombies, not to mention the 47% BS.

Elizabeth Miller wrote:

MtnCaddy,

Try to remember that.

First off, I didn't know there was an Award for that here in Weigantia. Am I eligible for it? I'd say that "thickest skin" around here is overwhelmingly either Don or Michale.

Second, no my Dear, you are not remotely thick skinned when it comes to all things Biden. For example (one of many,)

Elizabeth Miller wrote:

I'm just sick of these women who will disrespect Biden at the drop of a hat in order to put one of their own into power.

No one here reacted as did you. We "get" it that you're a yuge Biden fan. I wouldn't advise you to grow a thicker skin if I didn't sincerely want you to get through these upcoming 3 months plus 8 years of a Biden Administration as comfortably as possible. From my heart, Gurlfriend!

MtnCaddy,

Why not John Kerry or Bill Burns?

I think it's an intriguing idea!

Mitt has proven both his competence (Salt Lake City Olympics, Governor of Massachusetts & credible Presidential candidate -- more so than Bush the Younger and Cheetogod) and patriotism (as the only Repug who voted for Article 1 of the Impeachment trial.)

A rational Foreign Policy has usually been an area of bipartisanship. That is, before Trump. Nothing against Kerry or Burns but I'm confident Romney would be just as effective. Repug Romney announced as prospective Secretary of State would give Repug voters uncomfortable with Democrats emotional "cover" to support Joe and, as the above quote says, it'd be a powerful signal to the world that America is ready to be the Leader of the Free world.

So, yeah. I'm strongly in favor of making Mitt the pick.

Heaven forfend you should actually read one or both. Why do that when you can just "know" without? Life is too short to read things that may have nothing to do with your pre-conceived perceptions of them.

Do you have reason to believe I'd be posting Biden hit pieces or is it just that Biden is perfect in every respect and anything even remotely associated with his name must be glowing?

Neither of these pieces were about Biden ...

Oh, really?

Read your own quotes and title of the piece(s). 'Biden's Fantasy About Female Submission'

Naw, that's not about Biden. That's about something other than Biden.

I always win the award for having the thickest skin - around here or anywhere else.

Try to remember that.

Who gets to define "African-American)? Her skin tone is pretty much the identical color of my face and arms in the summer, and she has zero negroid facial features.

She's about as African-American as Poca - I mean Warren is Cherokee!

Any woman who Biden chooses as his running mate will have an excellent shot at the presidency. That was the whole idea!

So, do you have an opinion on the absolutely crazy notion of Romney as Secretary of State?

Why not John Kerry or Bill Burns?

V.P. Is a show about nothing.

That hasn't been true for a very long time, if ever, with the obvious exception of the current office holder, of course.

He is but, she isn't. :)

Knock off 5 yrs from Warren's 1st knock. Females get a 5 yr avg lifespan bonus which extends to mental acuity. A visit to any retirement community will confirm this.

My biggest objection to her veepification is how good she is for the Senate. V.P. Is a show about nothing.

Spiro T. Agnew has to be on everyone's list of Ewwww.

There is one other important announcement that could be made before the convention—that being who would be Biden’s first choice for secretary of State. The former vice president knows better than anyone how fragile the world’s alliances are as well as the military threats from Russia, North Korea and Iran. The economic and foreign policy challenges with China get more complicated every day.

Romney is very smart (he flagged Russia as the primary threat in 2012), honest and a patriot. Given the damage that Trump has done to America’s leadership position in the world in less than four years, a team of Biden and Romney could restore America’s position of international leadership by the end of his term. And it would send a signal to voters that a Biden administration would work across the aisle to get things done that are in the interest of the American people.

A female VP could have a good shot at the presidency after what we hope is a successful Biden presidency, so I trust this is being considered.

Let's be positive: there are a number of Dem women who would be good picks for different reasons, which is great. Like everyone, they have drawbacks in terms of campaigning and doing the job. But--how many 20th C VPs can you name, especially from the first half of the century? How many of those would you point to as being exceptional men and how many were nonentities or worse? A woman VP will be held to a higher standard than a man would, but that's not a particularly high bar when you think about it.

I'm just sick of these women who will disrespect Biden at the drop of a hat in order to put one of their own into power.

I must hear more about these women. Would these women be the authors, neither of whom put forth a preferred candidate nor quoted any of the candidates (or spokespersons) they wrote about or is there a Women's Cabal I haven't heard of that is vying with George Soros for control of the universe?

Please educate me here; we need to unmask this evil force. These women cannot be allowed to prevail.

Harris will be AG. Rice will be Sec. of State. Warren will head up the Treasury.

Winning Pick 6 numbers are...

Elizabeth, Dearheart, I suggest you develope a thicker skin regarding our man Joe.

The Repugs will try to utterly trash Joe and we don't want you having a stroke over how nasty it's going to get. Remember, the only people who'll buy into that, er, carp get their so-called news from Faux News or OAN. Reality has little to do with the swill they'll be fed.

Kerry would be a fine choice. But, especially if Joe really kicks Cheetogod's buttI wouldn't mind Hillary reprising her role as Secretary of State.

Just to rub it in the Repug's faces.

Neither of these pieces were about Biden; they were about the process and, to a lesser extent, the selection committee and the media.

It's not always about Sleepy Joe.

I just read my post in response to yours. It was a bit harsh. Ahem.

I'm just sick of these women who will disrespect Biden at the drop of a hat in order to put one of their own into power.

will: abrams

I agree with MtnCaddy; any VP candidate will probably be painted as a Trojan horse, guaranteed to perpetrate untold devastation to American freedom and liberty.

I hope you don't also agree with those asinine opinion pieces you linked to.

(while apologizing for being so optimistic last Wednesday, when I confidently predicted that we'd certainly have a deal by today...

It sure is a sad state of affairs when it's not a good idea to be optimistic about there being a deal to help the American people keep a roof over their heads and enough food to eat in the middle of a devastating health crisis and economic fallout.

It's beyond sad, actually and, I feel for Americans who are having a real tough time right now. Hoping and praying that the virus will soon be brought under control, saving lives and livelihoods.

Here are a couple of great opinion articles on how the search for a male-approved Goldilocks candidate has completely wasted what could have been an uplifting opportunity, followed by a thrilling celebration.

Rebecca Traister:

Joe Biden’s campaign has not yet announced his choice for running mate, whom he has vowed will be a woman, but his team has already managed to grotesquely bungle it. The selection that was surely intended to signal the 77-year-old former vice-president’s feminist bona fides has devolved, before it has even concluded, into insulting spectacle, reliant on the perpetuation of ancient sexist and racist tropes about which kinds of women and which kinds of female power are attractive or acceptable.
Biden’s Fantasy of Female Submission: The Democrats have completely botched this VP pick.

Joan Walsh:
...As I write, we are also preparing to celebrate the Democratic Party’s second nomination of a woman for vice president, though I don’t know who she is yet. (Readers might by the time they read this.) But we know that Joe Biden, who might have skipped a third run for president to back one of the four women senators who ran in 2020, promised to pick a female running mate before he sealed the nomination—a consolation prize of sorts for the largest bloc of American voters.
...Whomever Biden chooses, it will be a victory for women, though bittersweet (especially if his choice is a centrist). If a woman is ever to occupy the Oval Office, it seems, even 100 years after we won the vote, even after we powered the anti-Trump resistance, she will have to spend some time directly apprenticing to a man, living at a safe distance from actual power at the Naval Observatory. And whoever gets the nod from Biden, we all know, has had to endure the same sexist stereotyping as did the women senators who had the audacity to run for president against him and as Hillary Clinton did in 2016.
No Matter Who Biden Chooses as VP, It Will Be a Bittersweet Win for Women: By the end of Biden’s VP vetting, it seemed the 11th commandment of women’s politics is "Thou shalt never be just right."

Mostly because of your obsession with Biden's age and the time he has left on the planet.

While Democrats like me regarded Joe as one of the least Progressive of candidates, the Repugs will cast our team as wild-eyed Socialist/Marxist enemies of freedom no matter who he picks.

The 38% will vote Trump no matter what and coronavirus, the 2nd Great Depression and Trump fatigue will make Independents favor Joe.

Unnecessary roughness?**

Naw, caint be too rough on Cheetogod after what he's done to America.

**Damnation, they're gonna cancel my University of Michigan football team's season. :-(

So I'll be sitting Shiva for college football once the official announcement "buries" the season. You'll likely see some Church of Football references out of me for a while. Church of Football...the only religion who's Sacramental Potion is beer! Served with bacon wrapped maple bar donuts. I miss it already.

I'm pulling for, in order, (1) Elizabeth, (2) Susan & (3) Whitmer (has nothing to do with my being a Michigan native.

One thing is for sure - Biden knows and knows of more qualified women for the position of VP than all of us put together.

Let's get off to a fresh start with no baggage to worry about in the VP slot.

I think it may be a former Governor. Jennifer Granholm, anyone?

INDEED!

Well, she'll have to disinvest from THAT! Besides, doesn't she know that there is no future in oil?

That would be a bridge too far for me.

You have to be freakin' kidding me!!!???

Heh.

Biden should tell the winner that she is only going to be VP for one term. Ahem.

The first point against Harris is that very same primary moment with Biden. There are a lot of people on Team Biden who have not forgiven Harris for what they consider to be a very cheap shot at Biden's expense.

If by cheap shot at Biden's expense you mean she attacked Biden for something she not only knew wasn't true but that her own thinking on the subject was the same as Biden's, then yeah, that was a cheap shot at Biden's expense.

If she is the best candidate for veep, then Biden won't hold that cheap shot at his expense against her.