What you are looking for to win your argument is the CDC rubric for: "cause of death" = proximal cause."

Proximal cause is "the disease or injury that initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death" The chain of events leading to death doesn't roll without a proximal cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/misc/hb_me.pdf

I am truly the trendsetter here, eh?? :D

See ya'all bright in early in the morning where I laugh all day at what lusers the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is.. :D

Yawn.

Nope.. Just pointing out the facts..

I know, I know.. The facts hurt.. Tough shit deal with it..

And Dumbocrats lose AGAIN in the courts!!!! :D

BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yawn.

Let's compare notes on 3 Nov and see who is REALLY scared, eh Blathy?? :D

Maybe if he actually did his job he would not have to play scaredy cat on the taxpayers dime...

You mean the organization that wants schools to open??

THAT CDC???

Yawn. [cdc.gov]

Only 6% of that actually died from Covid..

Once again, yer spewing bullshit..

Don't worry, I won't be encroaching on your territory.

Some Left Wing rag..

As opposed to the walls of text you post from a right wing rag? Careful there your hypocrisy is showing...

149,281 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

New column coming soon, thank the Gods.

When CW keeps repeating the same [stuff] and other commenters repeat the same [stuff] about [my stuff] claiming I have not responded to [stuff] I have responded to I am not being repetitive, I am responding to others being repetitive.

thank you for clearing that [stuff] up. when i awake from reading your comments, i'll have some pie and then let you know whether or not i care.

Duh-Oh!

"I knew I'd get older but I didn't think it would happen THIS quickly!"

Touche' :D

His daily 4 PM press conference. He does his job and gives us info every day.

He is definitely one of the good ones, for sure.

HOC is unscripted.

Heh. You got me there.

You never know. We'll have to wait and see!

I would love to see him retired; handle that for us, will you? Heh. ;)

1978!?!...Oooo, I'm gonna hafta do I little digging. I was in my Sophomore year at University of Michigan

Wow. Yer an old fart! :D hehehe

Yeah. You outta give your Elders a little more respect around here, Punk! *not holding my breath haha*

BTW I'm 61 years old and I want to advise you that it just gets worse year after year.

"I knew I'd get older but I didn't think it would happen THIS quickly!"

I have been successfully shamed into calling my Mother. :)

This is good. Now make sure to work that into your regular schedule.

Well, what's he waiting for?

His daily 4 PM press conference. He does his job and gives us info every day.

If she keeps this up, her scripts for the remainder of Season 2 are going to be as limited as the Dr. Fauci character.

HOC is unscripted.

Don't get me wrong, I suspect he'll win reelection to Senate Minority Leader, of course

You never know. We'll have to wait and see!

My counter isn't broken.

Oh, good... then I trust you're quite capable of doing your own counting. :)

The Great Re-closing has begun here. Governor Beshear says he will announce additional tyrannical measures on Monday to try to slow the spread of Trump Virus in Kentucky.

Well, what's he waiting for? It's Monday now!

On Sunday, White House Trump Virus Task Force mole Deborah Birx said that she recommended that Kentucky close bars and reduce restaurant capacity in an effort to slow the spread of Trump Virus and destroy the economy.

That Trump administration is just hellbent on destroying the United States economy. If she keeps this up, her scripts for the remainder of Season 2 are going to be as limited as the Dr. Fauci character.

The state’s largest school districts in Louisville and Lexington will begin the year with remote learning just so that they can stick it to Big Orange.

What... no funding for the schools in Moscow Mitch's hometown? Why, it would be just a crying shame if that angered his neighbors and tarnished his chances for reelection. ;)

Don't get me wrong, I suspect he'll win reelection to Senate Minority Leader, of course, I just don't see anything wrong with making the GOP spend money in a Senate race in Kentucky where they're not at all used to having to work too hard for it. You can't exactly fund them all. :)

Where did these numbers come from? Please share the link.

He already did share the link... doing that thing you taught me:

Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

^^^ Doesn't that first line make a link on your screen? ^^^

If it doesn't, do some adjustments. Oh, that's right; you're on your cell phone. Display adjustments! Because Bashi is definitely not one who hides sources. :)

Center For Strategic And International Studies.

A Left Wing "think tank" that was actually a cover for Arms Dealing..

NYT Reveals Think Tank It’s Cited for Years to Be Corrupt Arms Booster

A recent New York Times article (8/7/16) detailed, in often scathing terms, what many media critics already knew: that think tanks are frequently not objective, neutral arbiters of information, but corporate- and government-funded agenda-promoters with an academic veneer to give the appearance of impartiality.
https://fair.org/home/nyt-reveals-think-tank-its-cited-for-years-to-be-corrupt-arms-booster/

It's no wonder Blathy didn't want to reveal his source...

What did I tell you..

Some Left Wing rag.. And not even an American source at that...

No wonder Blathy was trying to hide the source of his bullshit....

Wow. Yer an old fart! :D hehehe

I can assure you.. Blathy's link, if he even has one, will be some left wing rag like 538 or HuffPoop or WaPoop..

Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

149,261 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

I'm not surprised. Right wing violence has been an off the radar issue, but the data show that it shouldn't be that way. And that's not even counting the white-on-black violence going back 4 centuries.

Where did these numbers come from? Please share the link. As I'm confident that it'd be of interest to Brother Michale, I'd like to figure out how many police have been killed due to right-wing versus left-wing violence.

And now for a report on "sane, patriotic, everyday Americans" in Portland:

99% of Portland Moms “Not angry, just disappointed”

Heh.

“There’s so much they could be doing!” added Zambrano. “Go down and play some music, sing with the people. Maybe swat a tear gas canister away from the younger kids or stand between someone hit by a rubber bullet and La Migra until someone else can get them to safety.”

*laughs*

I have been successfully shamed into calling my Mother. :)

Kick,

Just you wait until next week when we put the focus on 1978. Ah, so many favourite tunes, so little time ...

1978!?!...Oooo, I'm gonna hafta do I little digging. I was in my Sophomore year at University of Michigan.

Thousands..

Not to mention your Democrat Party has also killed thousands of black Americans..

Really wouldn't be spewing bullshit, Blathy...

The facts prove that only 8,955 have died from Covid....

Once again, your stat is nothing more than fear mongering bullshit..

0 Victims killed in anti-fascist attacks since 1994

Since AntiFa are actually fascists (think (if you can) Democratic Republic Of North Korea) that stat should read

6,000,000 Jews killed by fascists like AntiFa

Us white boys can rap, too, huh?

Hehehe

How many of the 500 comments were mine?

Is your counter broken?

0 Victims killed in anti-fascist attacks since 1994
21 Victims killed in left-wing violence since 2010
95 Victims killed in jihadist attacks since 2010
117 Victims killed in right-wing violence since 2010
329 Victims killed in right-wing violence since 1994

Who are the real problem and who are the real patriots?

149,261 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

John From Censornati
548

Well, polls can't be trusted. It's likely that they're underestimating the "wrong direction" crowd. You know, like they did with the Blue Tsunami of 2018.

Heh. You're right. They totally missed that flipped seat in OK-05... a 20-point swinger.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/house/oklahoma/5/

You see how those "lefties" at 538 always pad the polls in favor of the Democrats? :)

MC,

The city, not the furniture store.. :D

Thanks, Brother Michale. My spelling of Bangkok looked kinda funny, but after plowing through all of the above *Kumbaya* I just said "frak it."

Us white boys can rap, too, huh?

Well, polls can't be trusted. It's likely that they're underestimating the "wrong direction" crowd. You know, like they did with the Blue Tsunami of 2018.

Heh. You're right. They totally missed that flipped seat in OK-05... a 20-point swinger.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/house/oklahoma/5/20

You see how those "lefties" at 538 always pad the polls in favor of the Democrats? :)

Where Are the New Heroes of the Revolution?

Global pacifist Mahatma Gandhi is also out, because in his earlier incarnation as a South African barrister he said and wrote things that now are deemed racist. George Washington may have been unique in terms of his superior morality and achievements, especially in comparison with other slave-holders. But as a slave-holder, his virtue does not matter; and so Washington is relegated to the toxic column, lumped together with any otherwise criminal-minded person who also owned slaves.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/26/where-are-the-new-heroes-of-the-revolution/

Basically, the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party wants to turn America into Soviet Russia or Venezuela...

And, pandemic or no pandemic, no sane patriotic American is going to vote for that..

PERIOD...

And now for a report on "sane, patriotic, everyday Americans" in Portland:

Yunno.. For someone who claimed that the best course of action is to ignore me and my comments..

You don't seem all that keen on following your own advice.. :D

Funny how that is, eh?? :D

It can't be long 'til Fat Donny realizes he's been had by the Deep State and Stepien. His new it's gonna get worse before it gets better so wear your patriotic Trump Virus prevention mask messsage just reinforces the idea that the Democrats and Never Trumpers were right all along.

Yes, sir... that's a picture worth several thousand words... a giant honking "about face," wasn't it? Hard not to miss that ginormous plot twist to start off Season Two with a bigly "wait, what"? Heh.

Somebody will tell him. Maybe Hannity.

Too much of a "yes" man.

Maybe the Lincoln Project.

They sure told him about Parscale:

Meet Brad Parscale - Brad's worth every dollar; just ask him!

Maybe Kim Kardashian.

Too busy helping her own presidential candidate. ;)

BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party for ya... :D

In the coming civil war, the group that is 98% armed and trained will just have to sit back and watch the morons on the Left take themselves out..

:D

Bullshit..

Once again, bullshit stats with absolutely NO FACTUAL BASIS..

And when those moms have to stay home from work and protesting because their kids can't go to school??

Who do you think will get the blame??

The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

So, either way, ya'all lose.. :D

This is what is happening on the streets of Democrat-run cities..

Americans are NOT going to vote for more of the same..

Even if you ARE correct and COVID will be the ONLY thing that Americans vote on..

Basement Joe has been hiding in his basement the whole time..

How are to believe he will be out there leading the fight when he doesn't have the mental ability to even leave his basement???

99% of Portland Moms “Not angry, just disappointed”

Portland’s wall of mothers has gotten a large amount of attention and their motivation to protect their own and others’ children has generated high praise. However, most Portland mothers have not attended any of the demonstrations that have occurred nightly in the city since the death of George Floyd. The reasons for this seeming lack of enthusiasm appear to have a common thread.

“Well, it’s not that I wouldn’t be at the Justice Center,” 51 year old mother Dolores Zambrano said when interviewed Tuesday. “But my kids, they don’t smash the state so much. This year, they didn’t even do anything to fuck up the patriarchy on Mother’s Day.”

99% of Portland Moms “Not angry, just disappointed”

Morning Greatness: Gunfire, Arson, Explosives at Weekend Riots

The unnamed driver said he shot at Foster because the protester had pointed his rifle toward him.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/27/morning-greatness-gunfire-arson-explosives-at-weekend-riots/

The idea that there are not shootings and killings at these protests is ludicrous..

And the idea that sane patriotic Americans won't care about such things when they go to vote is the epitome of self-delusion..

Americans very much cared in 1968 and the voting reflected that..

Oh, I know what ya mean..

But while escapism can be fun, one must really keep their feet planted in reality.. :D

I was still a little perturbed at you both for what went on..

Even though, I decided to do you a solid and not show up cuz I am sure some would have ruined your fun...

I'll start the music early next Sunday.. :D

Why is the NSA "self-isolating and working from a secure location off site"? Why does Drumpf hire these dummies who believe Democrat hoaxes?

Heh. The White House confirms that he tests "multiple times a day."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/21/trump-tested-coronavirus-multiple-times-day-375957

So for anyone still under the nonsensical impression that they shouldn't be concerned about acquiring COVID-19, look how concerned Donald Trump "isn't"! Those multiple tests a day are for what? To protect the children?

Oregon High School Football Coach Fired for Also Working as a Police Officer

The firing of Duilio represents a shift towards anti-police sentiments in public schools as a result of the far-left “defund the police” movement. Many public schools are firing police officers who are designated to work with campus security, and Portland especially has become one of the last remaining hotbeds of mob violence by the terrorist organizations Antifa and Black Lives Matter over the last several weeks.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/27/oregon-high-school-football-coach-fired-for-also-working-as-a-police-officer/

Once again.. This cop-hating attitude by the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is going to cost Basement Biden a **LOT** of votes in 99 days..

No Party with such a cop hating cop killing platform has EVER won any election...

American Greatness Gives Joe Biden a Cognition Test
What could possibly go wrong?

It took six tries but they finally got it—sort of. Watch the video below and see for yourself how “Biden” performed.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/26/american-greatness-gives-joe-biden-a-cognition-test/

Definitely a few fries short of a happy meal...

If only someone had warned Basement Biden to go out on top and avoid sullying his at-the-time good name..

Oh... wait...

But I don’t believe that this is true. Virtually all of the rioting is happening in cities that are controlled by Democrats, and the leftist politicians that run those cities do not have any control over the Marxist protesters at all.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/americas-major-cities-are-being-turned-into-war-zones-and-it-is-not-going-to-end-in-november

The idea that sane patriotic Americans don't care about America being turned into Fallujah by the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party??

Ludicrous...

2. in the past 25 years, there has been exactly one death due to ANTIFASCIST TERRORISM. that death was the perpetrator himself.

Yes, sir.

i'm not saying the protests are as "perfect" as donald's phone call with ukraine (and if you check back and see you'll note that i think it's dumb to have massive assemblies of people during a pandemic). what i'm saying is that the way you're framing the protests doesn't match the facts on the ground, and the deaths due to the bogeymen you're throwing out are infinitesimal when compared to the deaths caused by covid.

Yes, sir. The 2016 Dallas police shootings were perpetrated by an Army combat veteran/reserve who wasn't part of any group but wanted to kill white people/police. If we're going to label all the veterans of the United States who aren't part of a group as "antifa" and Democrats, that'll be quite enough votes to make Joe Biden president. Also, the Dallas Police are not fascists.

Where were you last night?

EM: What, no Prism? ;)

Heh.

Just you wait until next week when we put the focus on 1978. Ah, so many favourite tunes, so little time ...

So 20% of Americans think a pandemic that will kill hundreds of thousands of Americans and the largest unemployment since the Great Depression is the "right track"?

Well, polls can't be trusted. It's likely that they're underestimating the "wrong direction" crowd. You know, like they did with the Blue Tsunami of 2018.

Everything else, sane patriotic everyday Americans oppose.. :D

WAR ON POLICE: Over 431 Police Officers Injured or Killed in Recent Far Left Black Lives Matter Protests and Riots
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/431-police-officers-injured-killed-recent-far-left-black-lives-matter-protests-riots/

And if ONE death of a scumbag luser is sufficient to start nationwide rioting and looting and cop killings..

Surely 50 (using your own number) dead cops is enough to warrant more than a blase "hardly worth mentioning"...

Wouldn't you agree??

the issue is that the numbers on one side are so dramatic, and that side ain't the one you're talkin about

And yet YOUR Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party IGNORES that "dramatic" issue in favor of looting and destroying and killing cops..

To YOUR Party, the rioting and looting and cop killing is MORE important than the pandemic..

This is fact..

Given that FACT, why is it so hard for you to understand that OPPOSING the rioting and looting and cop killing is more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic...

We can table this discussion for 99 days if you wish. But the facts will bear out my position..

Heh! *throws head back in laughter*

Wow. The latest poll shows that 80% of The American People think that the country is heading in the wrong direction and the orange P word-grabber is the guy driving the bus.

80%! So 20% of Americans think a pandemic that will kill hundreds of thousands of Americans and the largest unemployment since the Great Depression is the "right track"? Regardless one's political ideology, that is the definition of "head in sand or a bodily orifice not necessarily your own." :)

Why is the NSA "self-isolating and working from a secure location off site"? Why does Drumpf hire these dummies who believe Democrat hoaxes?

not hundreds. less than fifty. and of course no death is meaningless. the issue is that the numbers on one side are so dramatic, and that side ain't the one you're talkin about

There has got to be at least SOME that are just a little tiny bit repetitive.

You sure? You should read them all and report back, Pot.

- Kettle ;)

Yes, sir. Nailed it.

I am sure that the families of the hundreds of cops and civilians killed across the nation would disagree with you..

Some scumbag who takes meth and fentynal and is fat fights the cops and is removed from society. THAT single life is so important to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party that they kill hundreds and burn and loot and destroy...

But the HUNDREDS of cops and innocent civilians that are killed nationally are "barely worth a mention"???

Do you comprehend how totally frak'ed up that attitude is???

the question isn't whether some outliers exist, because they obviously do. the question is what will impact a state's voters more, 0.6 deaths per state due to stupid people attending protests, or 30,000 deaths per state resulting from novel coronavirus?

And yet, .08% of black Americans killed by cops is enough to create a national terrorist organization.. But 96% of black Americans killed by that terrorist organization is to be ignored??

Do you see how utterly whacked your priorities are??

The fact remains.. Your Democrat/AntiFa/BLackLiesMatter believes that protesting and looting and destroying is more important than the pandemic..

It stands to reason that OPPOSING the terrorist actions of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic..

but still:

3,000 > 0.6

JL

what matters is that when you look at it nationally the numbers are so small that it's barely worth a mention.

the question isn't whether some outliers exist, because they obviously do. the question is what will impact a state's voters more, 0.6 deaths per state due to stupid people attending protests, or 30,000 deaths per state resulting from novel coronavirus?

that ain't splitting hairs, it's comparing rapunzel to beard stubble.

JL

Shouldn't have tested him, and he'd be fine right now! ;)

What does it matter which state has cops and innocent people killed by Black Lies Matter supporters??

It matters not one whit..

And to change the parameter in mid comment, just to fit the agenda.. It's ridiculous.

Bottom line is this.

If looting and destroying and killing cops and innocent people is more important to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party than the pandemic is (and the facts clearly show that this is the case)

Then is it such a far stretch to determine that OPPOSING the looting and destroying and killing cops and innocent people is more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic is..

GT: "Hot Space" !!! Not going to lie: Worst Queen album but some good songs on it. That was one of them. Another, of course: "Under Pressure"

And then *bam*, you go from "worst" to "first" with: "A Night at the Opera." One of the best albums ever, definitely Queen's penultimate.

MyVoice: Nice

MtnCaddy: Potty mouth ;)

EM: What, no Prism? ;)

That was fun.

Apologies, I feel asleep... unintentional dropout...

Again, the idea that there have been ZERO deaths caused by Black Lies Matter supporters is ludicrous..

only if you don't READ.

i'll use all-caps just so you know why you haven't disproved anything i wrote:

1. how many people PER STATE have died so far due to black lives matter protests?

unless you can name fifty protest-related deaths or we're only counting the "intent" of the original 13 colonies, the answer is still less than one.

2. in the past 25 years, there has been exactly one death due to ANTIFASCIST TERRORISM. that death was the perpetrator himself.

i'm not saying the protests are as "perfect" as donald's phone call with ukraine (and if you check back and see you'll note that i think it's dumb to have massive assemblies of people during a pandemic). what i'm saying is that the way you're framing the protests doesn't match the facts on the ground, and the deaths due to the bogeymen you're throwing out are infinitesimal when compared to the deaths caused by covid.

JL

If the protests and destroying and looting and cop-killing are more important to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party than the pandemic is, then is it such a stretch to believe that OPPOSING those protests and destroying and looting and cop-killings is more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic..

The logic is conclusive and unassailable..

If the pandemic is such a big concern for the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party, why is the party supporting all the protests??

You yourself said how utterly moronic that is..

If the protests and destroying and looting and cop-killing are more important to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party than the pandemic is, then is it such a stretch to believe that the protests and destroying and looting and cop-killings are more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic..

The logic is conclusive and unassailable..

Not a concern for this election???

To believe that is to ignore the facts and the reality...

The looters shot Dorn and he bled out while being filmed on Facebook live.
The killers understood no police would be coming.

Com'on JL.. I know for a fact you are smarter than this...

But to claim that there has been ZERO deaths due to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party and their rioting, lawless, looting and killing activities??

Well, that's simply closing your eyes to the facts and the reality..

Less than one???

Shirley, you jest...

“She shouldn’t have lost her life. She’s got a 3-year-old son she loved dearly,” said Jose Ramirez, her fiance, who was involved in the incident.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/07/12/young-mother-shot-and-killed-by-black-lives-matter-supporters-after-saying-all-lives-matter-n633837

Remind me again how "less than one" person has died due to the actions of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party??

Because I seem to have forgotten what with all the FACTS that prove otherwise...

You lead a sheltered life my friend.. All snug and safe from the violence and bigotry and hate of your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

To say that all the killing and all the racism and all the bigotry and all the hate coming from your Party will be irrelevant in the coming election??

Well, that's just ridiculous..

Again, the FACTS that Black Lies Matter is just another terrorist group looking for power..

Like the Democrat Party's KKK of days past..

And, of course, there is this Democrat Black Lives Matter scumbag..

http://sjfm.us/pics/blm.jpg

You HONESTLY think that sane patriotic Americans don't CARE about any of that???

Seriously??

http:sjfm.us/pics/blm.jpg

You HONESTLY think that sane patriotic Americans don't CARE about any of that???

Seriously??

And the list goes on an on and on...

Would you like to move on to the list of black Americans killed that Black Lies Matter have STATED that they don't care about???

Hell, even my "at least a dozen" estimate was way WAY too low...

Shall I continue with the FACTS that prove you wrong??

Again.. Easy to prove you wrong..

2016 shooting of Dallas police officers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

Very easy to prove you wrong..

Not factually accurate.. At least a dozen...

You can believe whatever you wish..

But the fact remains.. No sane patriotic American is going to vote for turning this country into Fallujah...

You may dispute it all you wish, but the fact remains..

As you will see in 99 days..